1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: This is Latino USA, the radio journal of News and 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: Kurtur Latino USC. Let listen Latino USA. I'm Maria Inojosa. 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: We bring you stories that are underreported but that mattered. 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: To you, overlooked by the rest of the media. 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: And while the country is struggling to deal with these, 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: we listen to the stories of black and Latino Studio 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: United Latino Front, a cultural renaissance organizing at the forefront 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: of the movement. I'm Maria Inojosa. Welcome to Latino USA. 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: I'm Maria Nojosa. Enjoy this episode from the archivos. 10 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 3: We know La Bamba is a song that's over four 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 3: hundred years old. That song survived because people sang that song. 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: They didn't know how to read, they know how to write, 13 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 3: but they just passed it on. How are people going 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: to know our story at Chicanos, mestizos, brown kids, mixed kids. 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 3: If we don't tell our story, how are we going 16 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: to survive for four hundred years? And every art form, 17 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 3: there's people who hold on to what they believe is tradition, 18 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: and then there's people who are trying to like evolve 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 3: with it. Don't let a conversation or those ideas of 20 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: what tradition is keep you from telling who you are? 21 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: From Futuro Media and RX It's Latino usay I'm Maria Inohosan. 22 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: Today one of our How I Made It segments, this 23 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: time with East La band Las Cafeterias. Las Cafeterias made 24 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: a name for themselves with their politically charged lyrics set 25 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: to traditional Mexican and Afro Mexican instrumentation. 26 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: The group from. 27 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: East La fused a base of Sonharocho with rock, ska, 28 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: spoken word and hip hop, telling the stories they grew 29 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: up with and the realities they still see every day 30 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: in their. 31 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:59,919 Speaker 3: Communities and black and brown fighting together. 32 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: One day, I'm singing in English, Spanish and in Spanish. 33 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: Their message has reached the ears of listeners all over 34 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: the world, from the stages of the Hollywood Bowl all 35 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: the way to New Zealand. On today's edition of our 36 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: How I Made It Series, we check in with three 37 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: members of the group, Denise Carlos, Ector Flores and Danielle French. 38 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: They tell us about their beginnings, their work to tell 39 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: and preserve brown stories, and they break down one of 40 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: their songs, I'm not Your puppet. 41 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 2: I'm daniel French. 42 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 4: I play harana keys, I sing, and I spit and 43 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 4: whatever else the band tells me to do. 44 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 2: My name is Ector Flores. 45 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: I play harana terreceta, I dance a patiado and I 46 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 3: sing with a little bit of spoken word of rap 47 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: rap rat Hi. 48 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 5: I'm Denise Carlos and I play the harana primera, I 49 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 5: sing and I dance abat. We are Lasta. 50 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: I always tell people who don't know Confidettas. I always say, 51 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: if Leela. 52 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 3: Downs and go go Bordello had a baby in East La, 53 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:17,839 Speaker 3: that would be last Confidittas. 54 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 4: It's La music. It's all the things that reflect the 55 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 4: way we grew up. 56 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 3: What we're doing is carrying immigrant stories, Chicano stories, Brown stories, 57 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 3: and that's what we want to keep on doing. 58 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 5: We offer a reimagination of what it means to look Mexican, 59 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 5: to sound Mexican, to speak Mexican. Because even in Las 60 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 5: Cofetera's if the experience varies, the language style varies, that 61 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 5: self imposed identity varies. 62 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 4: In a way, I think it reflects the pressure cooker 63 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 4: of life in La and so of course the music 64 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 4: we create is influenced by how we grew up. The sounds, 65 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 4: we heard, the foods we ate at other people's house. 66 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 5: You see us, and we don't look like Mexicans. We 67 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 5: don't look like Spiliy Gonzales. 68 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: Right. 69 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 5: We speak English, we speak Spanglish, we speak Spanish. We dance, 70 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 5: you know, Narteno style. We do staff atiallo, but then 71 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 5: we also do ska and cumbia and you know rock. 72 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 5: And I think what we offer is a discomfort and 73 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 5: a reimagination of what it means to be American, to 74 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 5: look American, what that sound is, what that story is. 75 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 3: Pasca that comes from the East Side Cafe. It's the 76 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 3: space that Denise and Jose Gano, the drummer and percussionists 77 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 3: in our band. They were part of a bunch of 78 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 3: students who helped found the space, and so when we 79 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 3: were starting to play music there, we would go play 80 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 3: everywhere coffee shops, on the streets and the corners or wherever, 81 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 3: and people would say, oh, here the caffeteros from the cafe. 82 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: But we had women and the crew, and they're like, 83 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: we're not calfordos, we're caffaderas. 84 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: And we're like, yeah, even though we have men in 85 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: the group, let's take on the feminine identity because we 86 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: all come from a woman, so it's a great way 87 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: to honor that we all have feminine inside of us. 88 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: We fell in love with this style of music called 89 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: so which is in Afro Mexican style of music. 90 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,679 Speaker 4: It comes from this mix of West Africa, the Mecca, 91 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 4: and the indigenous peoples of southern Vera Cruz and the 92 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 4: Sotavento region, and you have the Spanish and Arab influences. 93 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 4: Is about telling stories. It's about call and response. I 94 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 4: tell a verse and sing it back to me, so 95 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 4: we make sure we're listening to each other. We talk 96 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 4: about the real things going on in our life. And 97 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 4: I think that's where Las Capetra's story takes flight, because 98 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 4: then we say, okay, they're telling their stories. But we 99 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 4: didn't grow up in Vera Cruz. We grew up here 100 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 4: in La So what happens when we tell our story? 101 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 4: What happens when we let the music reflect our experience 102 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 4: and where we live. 103 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 5: As a Chicana was being told that the way I 104 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 5: placed on Ha wasn't correct and it was disrespectful because 105 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 5: I spoke Spanglish because I didn't understand everything I was 106 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 5: singing about. 107 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 3: We used to dress up like we used to dress 108 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 3: up in all why where the Sombreros? But we stopped 109 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 3: doing that because we're not how to We're not from Betakruz. 110 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: We don't say we placed on Haidocho music. 111 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: We are grounded in Hadrocho, which taught us your story 112 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 3: is important and vital, taught us that we are valid 113 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 3: right and for that we are forever grateful. 114 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: But we are not had choice. 115 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 5: In Las Cafeterras, and through so I was given this platform, 116 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 5: in this vehicle to no longer be ashamed, to be 117 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 5: able to be proud, and to be able to make 118 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 5: connections with people all over the world. 119 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 4: The more we create that space in our band where 120 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 4: everyone can express themselves and be who they are, the 121 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 4: more I feel like we've created this space outside on 122 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 4: stage for the listeners to say, hey, no matter where 123 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 4: you're from, homie, like get up and dance. There ain't 124 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 4: no wrong way, you know. And I think because we've 125 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 4: been told that we were doing it the wrong way, 126 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 4: we learned to shed our concern for what people thought 127 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 4: and to acknowledge that we respectfully are going to go 128 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 4: our own path and let our to reflect who we are. 129 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 5: That's such a powerful thing for young people of color 130 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 5: to be able to do, and to do it in 131 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 5: a way that we're not apologizing for do it in 132 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 5: a way we're not ashamed, but being proud of our 133 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 5: own existence and our own stories. 134 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 6: And it's almost chasle A Yia. 135 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 3: We recorded a song called I'm Not Your Puppet, which 136 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: is based on a song called I'm Your Puppet. 137 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: Which we love, but we just added one word, not 138 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: I don't know you. 139 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 3: When I think about oldies and now, there are tragic 140 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 3: love songs, but a lot of this stuff is about, 141 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: you know, really unhealthy relationships. So we were strategic and 142 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: trying to pick songs. 143 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: That we loved that could be flipped a little bit. 144 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 4: I'm just too. 145 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 3: Old. 146 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 4: These are something I guarantee you that no matter whether 147 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 4: you're black, white, brown, Asian, wherever you're from, if you've 148 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 4: been in America that long, like you have that story, 149 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 4: you have that connection to this. 150 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 5: Song, dude, just what I have to. 151 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 4: I do anything for you, but I'm not your. 152 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 3: Part of the things that we do in blas Confidea 153 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 3: is we always like to perform spoken word, We like 154 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: to do perform hip hop pieces. Anything you know, everything 155 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 3: you need I knew all that this is y'all get 156 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 3: down on one knee. 157 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: It can be a permit. 158 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 3: We decided to write a little piece just to include 159 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: something different. 160 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 2: Would be silly. You can be your soul man and 161 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: listen to Ron Man show you how to slow dance. 162 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 4: I think it kind of expresses this connection between Detroit 163 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 4: and the folks who created that music, and Los Angeles 164 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 4: and Mexico, and it kind of unites this continent and 165 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 4: unites our stories and reminds us it's just a thin 166 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 4: line between our cultures. 167 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 5: I think saying I'm. 168 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 2: Not your puppet. 169 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 5: I can love you, I can sherish you, and I 170 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 5: also expect the same bag. It's just hoping that people 171 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 5: listen to this song and say you can love fiercely, 172 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 5: but remember to love yourself fiercely and never to just 173 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 5: be held by anybody's strings. 174 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 4: No matter what happens. We got to remember to do 175 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 4: the things that give us joy. And we can critique 176 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 4: the people in power. We can critique each other and 177 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 4: ourselves and talk about what matters and do it in 178 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 4: a way that still gives us energy and life and 179 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 4: motivates us to not just say what's wrong, but to 180 00:10:46,240 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 4: go make things right. We can't just preach to the choir. 181 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 4: And also we can take a message that we never 182 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 4: thought would resonate with somebody who has a different color 183 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 4: of skin, different upbringing. We say, you should love who 184 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 4: you are, you should love the person next to you, 185 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 4: and we get the party cracking, and then we slip 186 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 4: in these little messages we hit them with. You know, 187 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 4: if I was president, if I was president, on my 188 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 4: slaves as a phrase the congregations, the first thing I 189 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 4: do is re education, and every third period we talk 190 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 4: about the things that are going on in our country 191 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 4: and our world. And we see that those words bounce 192 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 4: back at us. 193 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 3: All black and brown, because that got caught three strikes. 194 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: And when they get out, they get so they can 195 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: ride to their future, back to their past the. 196 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 5: Store, and some spaces appreciate that more than other spaces. 197 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 5: We've been told to stop playing and stopping political, and 198 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 5: people have walked out of our shows. Making people uncomfortable 199 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 5: is not the goal. Making people reflect on why they're 200 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 5: uncomfortable is what's valuable. 201 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 3: Conflict is a natural thing, you know, how we deal 202 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 3: with conflict becomes the unnatural thing. 203 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 5: Growth is always going to be uncomfortable, and so what 204 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 5: I'm hoping for with our music is not that we 205 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 5: make people angry or that people walk out of our shows, 206 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 5: is that we're able to end the discomfort. 207 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: Growth the voices of Denise Carlos, Ector Flores and Danielle 208 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: French from the East La band Las Cafetires. This episode 209 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: originally aired in November of twenty twenty. It was produced 210 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 1: by Genie Dalgo and edited by Miel Macias. It was 211 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: mixed by elishiba Ittu. The Latino USA team also includes 212 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: Victoria Estradra, Renaldo Leanos Junior, Andrea Lopez Grusado, Joni mar Marquez, 213 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:19,599 Speaker 1: Marta Martinez, Mike Sargent, Noursaudi, and Nancy Trujuillo. Our co 214 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: executive producer is Benni Le Ramidez. Our director of engineering 215 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: is Stephanie Lebau. Our senior engineer is Julia Caruso. Additional 216 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: engineering support by Gabriel Lebiez and jj Carubin. Our marketing 217 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: manager is Luis Luna. 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