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We don't go to the office, We build. 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:50.320 It our number two high a top, Chucknofield here on 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:54.760 the campus of Saint Vincent College, Jeweler and Williamson rolling 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:56.880 along here. We've got some I did have to give 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:58.680 a shout out at some point on the show here today, 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:01.360 Matt as I'm sure they're listening right now as they 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:05.679 drive back across Pennsylvania to Columbus, Ohio. The DeSantis family 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:08.280 some of my favorite people to see here every year, 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:11.800 and Matt Mama DeSantis, Marty I think she left us 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:13.840 about seven hundred cookies for all of us here on 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:18.120 the steam. So good, so good. I met the DeSantis 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:23.440 family cool seven eight years ago through Wolf. Wolf was 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:25.880 connected with them, and so every summer now they stop. 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:29.240 They still stop up and say hello, come from Columbus 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:32.880 every single year and uh and always always have some goodies. 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:33.280 Uh. 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:35.119 I've gotten a bunch of cookies in the past. I've 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:38.000 gotten t shirts and all kinds of cool stuff. So 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:39.960 always good to see the Desanta's family and thanks for 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:40.399 the cookies. 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.520 Road trip from Columbus it's about four hours, yeah, yeah. 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:44.920 About four hours. I think what they do is they 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:47.160 I think they came up last night, stay in a hotel, 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:51.920 then drive, yeah, drive home after the practice today. But 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:53.720 we were laughing to you'll get a kick out of this, 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:57.440 the uh calvers that we always stop at. Oh yeah, 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.360 on the way to and from the combine. They were like, 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:02.080 that's like ten minutes from our house. You go to 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:03.720 the one that's like right by the olive garden in 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:04.640 the hotel. 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:06.320 Right yeah, we go up at the shelf station and 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:08.240 right have a shell station right there. 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:11.280 Get back, get back on what is it seventy right, 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:14.040 don't I think it's I seventy that we take basically. 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:15.560 The whole on one of my many blind spots in 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:17.079 this world. I don't know streets, and. 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:19.680 I'm real bad with that too. It's like the streets 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:21.040 that I grew up on my whole life. I'm like, wait, 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:21.720 which one is that? 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:24.480 It's funny? Don't tell ed, but he asked. He's like, oh, 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:27.639 so you take seventy forty three to seventy here? And 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:31.960 I'm like yeah, And I didn't pay any attention to 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.160 it today. I actually looked. I'm like, do I take 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.080 forty three to seventy here? I'm like, I actually do, 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:37.480 but I had no idea. 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:39.280 Yeah, I think that's the way. 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.079 Ways tell me make it right, you know, right. 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:44.959 At least I'm kind of like a GPS kid, although 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:46.720 to be fair, I still had to use map Quest 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.960 and stuff like that until I was in like college. Yeah. 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:53.320 Once you've had ways and all that stuff for a decade, it's. 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:54.800 And I've made this for a million times. I know 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:56.560 the way I go. I put ways in just in 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:59.080 case there's like an accident or something or yeah, right, 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:01.320 I don't know what, Yeah, do you take me? You know? 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:04.680 I think I'm so so I'm so bad with street 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:06.679 names and stuff like that too. Just I know where 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:08.200 I'm like, I have a great sense. 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:09.919 Of direction, and I'm not bad about that. 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:12.440 Yeah, been somewhere once, I'll remember how to get there 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:13.320 and have to ground. 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:15.840 But it's usually because of like landmarks and things. Right 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:18.720 exact like I made a left on Second Avenue right and. 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:22.359 Turned on to Bates mad An exercise that we got 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:24.400 into last week, I'd like to pick up here at 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:27.160 the start of this hour. It's something you and Dale 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:30.280 used to do where you would basically go go position 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:32.679 by position group across the roster, and how do you 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:35.280 feel about this position group three hundred and sixty five 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:37.680 days later as to where you were last. 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:40.360 Year at this time we did again. You got to 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:42.160 be honest with yourself and you have to be honest. 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.680 Yeah, like the John new Smith one that you laid 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.640 out about it. It was a perfect example, and I'm sure 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:49.640 we'll bring that up again whenever we do tight ends. 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:52.120 We did, like when we get the running backs. I 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:54.200 wasn't super excited about game well, but he was really 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:54.600 really good. 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:58.680 You know, we did quarterbacks and wide receivers last week. 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:02.920 We also did corner back in safeties. I want to 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:06.040 start in an interesting one with you because it's interesting 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:09.120 in the sense of there really hasn't been much change 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:11.400 unless you're looking at the very bottom of the depth chart, 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:13.760 and that's the off ball linebacker position. 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.520 I've been really stressing this since we talked to Chris. 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.040 The one unit that hasn't changed, including. 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:20.880 It hasn't changed one bit. Yeah, I mean it's exactly 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:27.880 the same. Has of our thoughts changed, Yes, they have 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.760 to have. I mean, if you write an evaluation for 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:35.080 even the best of players, it's not the same every year, 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:37.840 you know what I mean, correct or the worst of players. 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.360 You don't just cut and paste, you know, after seventeen 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:43.679 games of knowledge. But they are the exact same human 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:46.000 beings in that room. I mean of the top five. Yeah, 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.200 I'm not talking about the guys that have basically no chance. 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.960 Of the top five. And the position coach too. 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:54.560 Now, I bet Scott Scott McCurley is the off ball 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:58.760 linebacker coach would have been if he's a defensive end coach, 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.839 defense tackle safety coach. I bet he would have been retained. 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:04.240 Scott and I actually gad together a pit way back 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:07.000 when and he was a linebacker my first year there, 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:11.039 and his brother was on the team. Great dude, but 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:14.160 I know him and McCarthy have a very extensive history together. 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:17.800 Not knowing they were going to overlap in his second 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:20.440 year as linebacker coach, but it worked out well. But 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:22.440 he was only one of two, along with Tom Arth 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:26.160 who was retained. Yes, but the exact same room was retained, 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:28.520 And where we talked a lot about with Chris and 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:30.760 I've been really been on my cranium quite a bit, 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:35.880 is to me the front office thinks the problems in 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:37.760 that room weren't the players. 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:43.040 That's probably a very fair, I think takeaway, because if 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:44.880 they thought it was the players, there at least would 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:46.640 have been some overturn, some change there. 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:48.640 Now, there might have been a case where they had 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:50.920 a second round grade on a linebacker and he's sitting 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:52.719 there in the fourth They would have taken them, of course, 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.039 you know. But it's rare to run those same room 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:58.680 back year after year, especially because it wasn't awesome. Especially 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:01.479 it wasn't ham Lamb coaching a yeah right right, and 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:03.960 there's a new defense and a new defense you know scheme. 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:07.320 So I think the again, no one's told me this 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:10.680 the front office must be more excited about that group 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:13.760 than the results last year, you know what I mean? 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.640 That would make sense, But I don't know what I 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:18.840 thought of him this year compared to last. 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:22.160 I think last year I had more optimism for this 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:23.200 group than I do now. 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.560 I think so too. That doesn't especially Queen, not that 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:26.360 he's bad. 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:27.560 Exactly right, That doesn't mean that I. 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:32.280 Think he was Actua. Queen was new coming heck of 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:33.640 a season in Baltimore. 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:36.440 Awesome season in Baltimore. Yeah, Peyton Wilson was entering year 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:39.000 two right where you always like to see that sophomore 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:40.240 leap that we talk about. 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:42.960 And I think he's progressively gotten better, But I thought 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:46.640 he'd be progressively gotten more better, you know what I mean. 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.039 His steps have been fine, but I thought they'd be 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:51.159 larger steps at this stage of his career. 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:54.239 Yes, I thought Patrick Queen would be one of the 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:57.680 more regarded off ball linebackers in the NFL. Not Fred 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:00.720 Warner's status, No, no, no, maybe in that next group down. 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:02.760 And yeah, I thought Peyton Wilson. 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:04.760 Would have maybe he'd go to the Pro Bowl last year. 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:07.840 Yeah, exactly right. And I thought we could be talking 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:10.560 about Peyton Wilson is one of the more unique and 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.840 athletic off ball linebackers in the NFL. Not that those 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:17.000 guys stink those not that those guys were disasters, nothing 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:17.360 like that. 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:19.440 And there were some scheme things that hurt them. 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:21.600 There were, There were, absolutely were, and I'm glad you 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:22.400 point that. 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:25.600 Out, and they can sure use to Again, I like 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:27.440 Bent and I just don't think he's a nose. There 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:29.520 was a lot of times he was driven back into 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:31.720 their laps in the run game too, So. 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:35.320 I would say maybe a slight decrease in expectations, nothing 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:38.440 colossal or anything like that. I think you know what 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:40.080 you have in Cole Holcom. You you know what you 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:42.680 have in Malik Harrison. Carson Bruner is going to be 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:43.800 a special teams demon. 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:46.360 With those tops, my opinion on those three haven't changed 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.880 at all, not at all. Those are exact same grades. 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:50.720 And with the top two again, I still expect them 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:52.880 to be good and productive and one of the better 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.600 tandems in the NFL, because, as you lay out for us, 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:58.320 often that's not a very strong group around the league. 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.200 No, a lot of teams are just getting by. 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:03.000 Like I think a lot of teams would certainly trade 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:06.640 what they have for for Queen and Willson. Yeah, but 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.200 that might be the position group that I'm most interested 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:11.480 to see under Patrick Graham here in year one. 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:17.000 Yes, I totally agree. Now again, even though we're on 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:19.560 Steers Nation Radio, I don't want everything to be all 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:23.000 roses because much of what this league throws at you 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:29.400 is challenging and not great. I mean, it's a hard 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:33.880 league to succeed. There's certainly a world a year from now, 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:35.880 or not a year from now, six months from now 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:39.400 where we're saying, man, they might need to find two 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.439 new starters. Yeah, you know, Queen, Queen's are free eight. 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:46.360 This is future stuff. This is not the exercise we're doing. 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:50.720 You know, you know Queen's up after this year. He 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.120 might have an okay or fine year. And you say, 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:57.079 not worth the money. Sorry, you're gonna walk on. You 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.960 move on, get a compic out of it. And you're 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:02.760 looking at Wilson at that point. Go and you're basically 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:05.680 been here for the extent of your rookie deal. Maybe 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:09.040 you're in the mix but not ready to extend you yet. 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:12.040 Who knows you might be like and I think we 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:15.160 all know Holcomb Harrison and Brunner aren't who you ever 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:17.400 want start. I mean, that doesn't really value, but they're 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:18.719 again you. 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:20.400 Don't want them down in and down out plays. 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:22.400 Right, So this is kind of a critical year for 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:23.320 this position too. 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:26.240 I think it absolutely is. Yeah, could you foresee a 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:30.000 scenario where Peyton Wilson play like they let Patrick Queen 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:32.640 walk after this year, But it's because Peyton Wilson plays 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:33.520 at a level that they. 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:34.359 Think, maybe. 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.160 Go get somebody else. Then with the third round pick, 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.080 we can get his understudy. 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:45.760 Yeah, and I would think that's extension time though you know, like, Okay, well, boy, 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.520 Wilson did take that step forward, which I think is possible, 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:53.760 especially with a little more help around him. And Okay, 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:55.600 we're gonna give you attack a couple of years on 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:58.280 your deal, slap that green dot on your helmet, and 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.840 now you're the mentor you teach a day two pick. 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:05.120 I could certainly see that being being a scenario. 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:06.760 And part of that would be success. 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:10.120 If we get to, like you said, six months ish 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:13.000 from now, and you think Peyton Wilson is ready to 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.640 be the guy in the middle of the defense, that 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.079 that's a good place to be, regardless regardless of what 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:21.240 that would mean for Patrick Queen's but that would be 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:23.120 that would be a good place to be, without a doubt. 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:25.360 The teams often let guys walk that they're happy with. 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:27.319 You know, they can't. 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.000 Keep them all and you got to balance their age 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:31.320 and and the term and all that stuff and what 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:34.040 it's worth. But this one that I've been kind of 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:36.160 waiting to have this conversation with you because it's the 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:39.959 same group as last year, but there's there's still some 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:42.839 some meat on that bone. If I had to guess, though, Matt, 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:46.560 I think in the proverbial, you know, six months from now, 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:49.000 when it's when it's wintertime and what we're like in 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:51.680 the in the playoffs or slash end of the season, 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:55.160 I'm hoping that we'll be thinking that the era was 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.640 pointed up this year and that that's what we expected 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:59.160 to get from that group all along. 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:01.440 Yeah, because I do think, by no means in my 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:04.680 white writing Queen off at all. I thought he was 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.280 swimming upstream with a lot of different things. Chris laid 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:09.040 some of it out. I don't need to reiterate all 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:13.040 of it. I do think he's an impact player. I 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:16.120 think he'll blitz more he did miss a lot of tackles, 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.480 so be it. He also gets to some balls that 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:19.760 not every linebacker does. 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:24.360 Some there's some Shazier esque Uh yeah, a little bit, 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:28.079 you know, you see sometimes the miss tackles. But he's 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.920 also he just gets to the ball on almost every place. 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.559 Yeah, more so than maybe Joe average speed guy. 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:35.640 Yeah right right, So Joe average speed guy wouldn't even 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:38.440 have been there to miss a tackle, whereas Queen is 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:39.560 just he's all over the place. 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:41.720 He is, but he's very intense. You can tell that 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:48.720 he's beloved by his teammates as well. So and frankly, 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:52.640 there was some frustration on his part on his role 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.000 and not being put in the best position for the 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:55.920 defense to succeed. 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.839 I can understand why, Yeah I can. And that again, 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:03.480 I mean, Matt, we are we're all so intrigued to 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:05.800 kind of, you know, get to Christmas, which will be 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:08.040 on September thirteenth, to get at home against the Atlanta 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:10.800 Falcons and start unwrapping those gifts, right and seeing what 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:14.160 it all looks like under this new coaching staff. Obviously, 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:15.880 I'm not gonna lie to you. The offense is very 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:19.000 intriguing with McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers and the new and 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:22.280 Pittman and Bernard and the mix there. But just in 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:25.839 terms of what I think like this coaching staff might 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.400 be able to do with a position group, those off 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:30.520 ball linebackers, those middle linebackers might be at the top 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:31.040 of my list. 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:34.480 Yeah, I think you just the average fan watching in 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:38.280 their lazy boy might just feel their presence more. Yeah. 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:40.360 I would hope so, because they better at least. 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.600 Yeah, it needs to that that feel, which is not 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:47.440 scientific or numeric driven or anything like that, it needs 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:48.280 to be increased. 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:48.720 It does. 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:50.319 Yeah, yeah, it certainly does. 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:52.760 You need to. That's one of those position groups that 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:54.520 you just need to feel. Honestly, you need to know 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:55.040 they're out there. 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:55.320 Yeah. 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:57.120 Yeah, you need to hear them, you need to feel them. 0:12:57.480 --> 0:12:58.679 And they've They've got some guys. 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:02.640 New Lambert was out there, was. 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:05.920 Out there, You knew Ferrier was out there. I don't 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:08.240 need them to be Navarro, Bowman and Patrick Willis, no, 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:11.040 but they but I need them to. I need them to, 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:12.559 uh to take a step forward this year, and I 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:13.400 think they certainly. 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.200 Could under this news stats more of an impact. 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:19.199 Matt, I want to continue this exercise. Will transition to 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:22.480 the offensive side of the football. We did quarterbacks, we 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:24.839 did wide receivers. You want to do running backs, you 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:25.440 want to do tight ends. 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:26.959 Where you want to go and we see running backs. 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.040 I teased it with Gainwell, let's do that when we 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:29.360 get back. 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:31.839 Maybe maybe we'll lump in a second group, depending on 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:32.640 how much time we have. 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:35.240 Yeah, but O line is probably just a long conversation. 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.880 Oh line is going to be a long conversation in 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:41.160 this regard. Defensive line and edge rusher might be too, 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.559 based off of what you've done in those regards. So 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.920 we'll continue to kind of uh compare and contrast uh 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.760 certain parts of the roster at this time last year 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:52.839 as opposed to where we're at now. 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Another beautiful 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:06.040 day here in Unity Township in Latrobe, Pennsylvania, as the 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:08.120 sun is shining, just a few clouds in the sky. 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.840 Another good day of work for the Steelers here, Matt. 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:14.040 We got a few people from the grounds crew is 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.040 always out there doing some stuff, but nothing, honestly. 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:18.000 Yeah, pretty uneventful grounds crew day. 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:20.760 Pretty the field looks pretty good for now. The lines 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:23.920 or stiff it had a day off yesterday, so I'm 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.680 sure they got plenty of stuff done. Then it is 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:28.920 crazy though, man like it's it's such a science. It's 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:32.880 such an everything. I mean, when you think about it, Matt, 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:36.160 everything out here is such an operation. From the fields 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.000 and the locker rooms and the conditions and all the 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.880 stuff for the players, all the equipment that's needed to 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:44.440 run practices, the stuff in the weight room, the trainers, 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:47.400 the cafeteria, all that stuff. They bring a whole Steelers 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:49.440 Pro shop out here and set up a massive tent 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.960 like it's a you know, graduation party or a wedding 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:55.440 or something, the big tent for everybody to to to 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.600 go shopping and hang out with all the stuff. So 0:15:57.600 --> 0:15:59.120 it is how much easier. 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:00.160 It would be to stay in the South side and 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.680 just don't let fans come and just don't even send 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.960 eighteen wheelers out here full of weights and heavy stuff 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:11.080 and workout equipment and medical supplies and tackling dummies and water, 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:14.520 food and the massive ordeal. 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:16.800 It's a massive ordeal. And you're I'm glad you mentioned 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:19.840 those eighteen wheelers. We always see like the last day 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:22.120 or two of training camp, you can see him starting 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:24.440 to congregate up and the like. All the eighteen wheelers 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:26.360 come back and they park at the back of the 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:28.160 parking lot up there on the top of campus to 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:31.880 get ready for that first day when everything's over when 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:33.920 they start packing this up like our I mean our guy, 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:37.640 our guy TV Tyler V of course loyal listeners of 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:39.880 that drive. No, he's our video producer when we're back 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:40.600 in studios. 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:42.600 And we'll be back at that soon, folks, We sure will. 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:43.240 We sure will. 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:47.400 About two weeks or so. Him and you know, all 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:49.520 the video crew they get out here like a week 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:49.920 ahead of. 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:51.040 Time, well ahead of us. 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.280 Well, they get out here a week before everybody else 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:55.480 because they have to set up all their different sets 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:58.120 and studios and cameras and have a lot of rooms 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:01.040 and all the stuff to do, you know, player photos 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:03.800 and videos and intro stuff and all that media day stuff. 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:06.320 And that's just one phase that we're close to it. 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:08.840 Imagine if it was the equipment guy or you know, 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:11.160 the people that are setting up the weight rooms and 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:14.399 you're probably too young. But not that it's you know, 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:17.400 better or worse. But in the corner of the far 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:22.000 far end zone used to be a huge tent where 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.359 they would just pump iron if they wanted afterwards, like 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:26.200 James Harrison would go in there and just throw out, 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:27.399 you know, just start rapping. 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:29.760 You mean weights, not Iron City, No. 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:33.679 I'm talking like old school like free weights. You know, 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:37.000 you just heard clanking and ra you know, I think 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:38.919 that goes back to like Lambert. 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:40.440 All that does. Yeah, they set up a little tent 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:41.840 and a bunch of bunch of. 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:43.639 Weights and basic stuff. 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:45.840 Yeah, those guys would go in there and pump some 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:49.880 iron while you know, when practice was over and all 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.640 that stuff. Yeah, it's it's a heck of an operation 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:55.720 that takes takes hundreds, if not thousands of people to 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:57.280 stay on the same page. And you're right, it would 0:17:57.280 --> 0:17:59.600 be a lot easier, probably even be a lot cheaper. 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.280 To oh probably. Yeah, leave everything where it's at. 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:04.080 Leave everything where it's at, stay at the south side 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:05.760