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Speaker 1: Questlove Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: What's Up, Everybody, It's Sugar Steve from Team Supreme. June

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Speaker 2: marks Black Music Month. We often speaking about it on

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Speaker 2: Questlove Supreme, and we've had some of the legends responsible

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Speaker 2: for the recognition on the show. Every day this June,

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Speaker 2: we are running a different episode from the QLs archives

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Speaker 2: to honor the tradition and intent of Black Music Month.

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Speaker 2: This week we are focusing on some of the great

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Speaker 2: hip hop conversations in the QLs catalog. Our leader Questlove

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Speaker 2: has a new book out called hip Hop Is History.

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Speaker 2: Check it out at questlove dot com. D Nice has

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Speaker 2: become one of the top DJs, but his hip hop

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Speaker 2: journey is one of a man who wears many hats.

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Speaker 2: Listen back to this QFS.

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Speaker 3: Suprema Sun, Suprema roll Call, Suprema Sun Sun, Suprema roll Call,

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Speaker 3: Suprema Sun Sun, Suprema Ro, Suprema Son Supremo.

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Speaker 4: Roll call, Hello, Supreme fam Yeah, quest Lovers flock, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: what up?

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Speaker 1: D Nice?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Suprema Supremo, role called Suprema Son Son Suprema Rollante.

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Speaker 1: Is in the building. Yeah, I'm willing and able.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Compared to me Yeah, just chrmebs on the table, sup.

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Speaker 6: Supremo, roll call Suprema Supremo.

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Speaker 1: Roll call. They call me sugar, Yeah, they call me spice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they call me everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but nice Supremam, Mad Supreme.

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Speaker 7: I hate Fante. Yeah, he stole what I write. I'm

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Speaker 7: just gonna say up the nice.

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Speaker 3: Sa Jordan Son Supremo roll call on paid bill, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: start do drag.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just can't take it. Yeah, jet L.

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Speaker 6: Roll call Supremo on the Supremo, roll call Suprema something

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Speaker 6: Son Supremo, roll call.

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Speaker 8: My name Yeah, oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, that fine

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Speaker 8: is over there though. Yeah, his name is nice.

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Speaker 6: Roll call Supremo Supremo, roll called Rocket Son Son Supremo,

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Speaker 6: roll call.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I don't know what to say. Yeah, I haven't written

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Speaker 9: the rhyme. Yes is back in the day.

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Speaker 1: Uppreva Safe Suprema, roll call Suppreva Son Son Supremo.

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Speaker 6: Roll call Supremo soth soun Supremo, roll call Suprema Son Son.

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Speaker 4: Subpremo role All right, Boss Bill with the with the

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Speaker 4: field goal. Yeah, with the field goal with one second left,

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Speaker 4: half pint half court Buzzy bean y one on No.

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Speaker 4: One had a twenty five to life Reference was going

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Speaker 4: to do that. That's why on the table I didn't

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Speaker 4: touch called Denic. Sound was like, let me leave, call

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Speaker 4: me Denice. Someone else is going to do it, right,

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Speaker 4: So then I was like, okay, crumbs on the table.

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Speaker 4: I don't think nobody do that one and.

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Speaker 7: Called me with the Scott Rock though I wasn't where

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Speaker 7: was your one? It was literally almost the exact same ship.

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Speaker 7: Like I tell no fables compare to Boss the table.

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Speaker 4: Oh god right mind, Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to

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Speaker 4: another episode. Of course, love Supreme, IM course love this

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Speaker 4: team Supreme in the house.

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Speaker 1: Hello, guys. Yeah, our guest.

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Speaker 4: Today, uh was sixteen when he entered the game back

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Speaker 4: in nineteen eighty something, and I believe that he's seven

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Speaker 4: teen some thirty.

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Speaker 1: Years later thanks to that early morning drinking coffee brought

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Speaker 1: you back QS coffee. Yeah, I'm just saying that.

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Speaker 4: Out of anything that he's done in history, I'm more

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Speaker 4: curious about how you've yet to age in hip hop.

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Speaker 1: But he's a hip hop legend.

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Speaker 4: He's part of He was part of the legendary Boogie

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Speaker 4: Down Productions crew from the South ROX that really literally

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Speaker 4: changed the face of hip hop and advanced it to

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Speaker 4: an intelligence level where nerds like us could participate and

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Speaker 4: engage in the culture. And he's had the craziest journey

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Speaker 4: since I mean as a photographer, as a DJ, as

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Speaker 4: a producer, and as a coffee maker. Apparently, ladies and

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Speaker 4: gentlemen welcome to quest of me.

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Speaker 1: D Nice. Yes, yes, thank you for having me taking

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Speaker 1: out your suckers. And you don't know how did so?

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Speaker 1: How did you take out those suckers? I still don't

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Speaker 1: know how I did it? Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Side note, d Nice has half of us in this

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Speaker 4: room engaging in course slups Supreme coffee, which is it's

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Speaker 4: very nice.

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Speaker 1: It's coffee and passion coffee. And yes, black lives matter, fashion,

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Speaker 1: black lives love. That's hilarious.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to Diddy and listen to thank you, Thank

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Speaker 4: you Diddy. In this room, I forgot my father. Shout

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Speaker 4: out to my twin brother Love Brother, Love Love and

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Speaker 4: Alyssa for this.

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Speaker 1: How's it going? So you you said you had a

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Speaker 1: rough night last night. I had a rough night, man,

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Speaker 1: What did you do? Man?

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Speaker 9: So it's crazy kind of being in this world where

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Speaker 9: you I met with an invent last night that offered

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Speaker 9: me like a few million to open this business. So

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Speaker 9: I went out to celebrate after that, and I celebrated

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Speaker 9: a little too hard at a restaurant called Charlie Bird.

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Speaker 9: I mean I probably had like five bottles of wine.

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Speaker 9: Nothing hard, but it was fantastic wine. The song just

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Speaker 9: kept bringing first of all, sound mad nerdy like.

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Speaker 1: Nerds right now.

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Speaker 9: The song brought out, I mean, everything was just amazing.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: So I'm recovering from that right now. Congratulations for you. Yah,

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Speaker 1: so super excited.

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Speaker 8: He said that sentence like it happens all the time.

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Speaker 1: You know. No, but I'm saying, well, that's what I

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Speaker 1: was going to go to. How many jobs do you

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Speaker 1: have mine? Man?

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Speaker 9: Here's the thing, man, Like, coming into the hip hop

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Speaker 9: back in eighty six, I had no real role in BDP.

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Speaker 9: You know, I wasn't I wasn't in real MC at

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Speaker 9: the time. I wasn't really producing at the time. And

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Speaker 9: the one thing that Scott Larrock told me early on was, dude,

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Speaker 9: you have to know how to do everything in this

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Speaker 9: So that's how I ended up becoming a DJ. That's

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Speaker 9: And to this day, I just feel like I can

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Speaker 9: do anything, you know. So in terms of like businesses,

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Speaker 9: you know, I'm trying, not even trying. I'm about to

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Speaker 9: open the club, you know, working on that now. You know,

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Speaker 9: the DJing takes me all over the world. Obviously, Photography

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Speaker 9: has been great to me. And you know, I've shot campaigns,

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Speaker 9: done America's Next Top Model, Hennessy campaigns with this guy

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Speaker 9: over here, you know, you know, and it's.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot. He's like wait, I was looking around,

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Speaker 1: like who are you talking to? You know, But I

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Speaker 1: just I love being creative. That's it. I love being created.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I.

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Speaker 4: I know you, but I never ever nerd it out

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Speaker 4: because I knew I was going to get you on

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Speaker 4: the show one day. And you know, I have so

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Speaker 4: many questions about just your your journey and your entry

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Speaker 4: in the hip hop and and and all those things.

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Speaker 4: First of all, where where were you born?

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Speaker 1: Can I assume that you.

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Speaker 9: Were born in this I was so I was no, no, no,

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Speaker 9: I was actually born in New York. I was born

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Speaker 9: in Harlem Hospitals.

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Speaker 1: In South New York.

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Speaker 4: Yes, how come people that come on the show that

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Speaker 4: represent a city and they're they're born from We're never

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Speaker 4: they don't represent that.

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Speaker 9: I wish I was born in the Bronx, but no,

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Speaker 9: my heart is always there. But I was born in

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Speaker 9: Manhattan in Harlem Hospital, but raised in the Bronx. And

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Speaker 9: the funny thing is I wasn't even raised in the

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Speaker 9: South Bronx.

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Speaker 1: So we're part of the Bronx.

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Speaker 4: saying b DP like, we're part of the Bronx.

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Speaker 9: So care Ress was from Brooklyn, so he wasn't really

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Marley didn't.

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Speaker 9: Marley Caress was from Brooklyn, So South Bronx actually represented

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Speaker 9: where he lived at the time. He lived in the

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Speaker 9: Men's Shelter and DJ Scott Larrock was a social worker

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Speaker 9: there Kres. You know, his name wasn't cars He was

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Speaker 9: So when they talk about well, not even they when

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Speaker 9: we talk about South Bronx, it really represented that particular

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Speaker 9: area really where Scott lived. And I was a part

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Speaker 9: of the group because you know back in the day

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Speaker 9: when you say how many jobs, like I loved cooking

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Speaker 9: growing up. And one day, this is really how it happened.

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Speaker 9: Was I was cooking something for my cousin and brought

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Speaker 9: to scottland Rock and Scott looked at me and said,

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Speaker 9: you're going to be in my group, just like that

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Speaker 9: dead ass serious. He was like, you're going to be

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Speaker 9: in our group. You had no he had no clue

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Speaker 9: of what The very first day that I met him,

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Speaker 4: What was your musical experience prior to that, Like, were

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Speaker 4: you at least observing what hip hop was becoming back

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Speaker 4: in the eighties, Like were you at park Jams any

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Speaker 1: Or was that like after your time?

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Speaker 9: No, no, no, I was always into music, but oddly

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Speaker 9: enough it wasn't hip hop. So I grew up, which

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Speaker 9: you know, I'm not just saying it's because you're here.

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Speaker 9: But I grew up listening to just soul music. So

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Speaker 9: when I hear that in a party to this day,

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Speaker 9: it's actually the reason why I DJ. I grew up

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Speaker 9: listening to, you know, just a lot of James Brown

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Speaker 9: stuff like Melbourne Moore, like everything in the seventies was

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Speaker 9: like that was my era. And the first hip hop

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Speaker 9: record I fell in love with wasn't even like a

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Speaker 9: full on record. I remember walking by a laundromat and

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Speaker 9: someone was playing like Pebbly Pool. So that was like

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Speaker 9: old mixtape and she was rhyme, and you know, I knew, like, man,

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Speaker 9: I want to be involved with it.

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Speaker 1: And but.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so that was my music really started with with

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Speaker 9: with hip hop with Kress, like that was you know,

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Speaker 9: outside of the Pebbly Pooh stuff. I never wanted to

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Speaker 9: wrap until I met them, until I met Scott and.

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Speaker 1: Karas, Wow, that's okay. Well, so then.

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Speaker 4: How to become like you know you you're in the group,

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Speaker 4: until you know you actually you guys doing things and

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Speaker 4: like how do they develop as a as a band

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Speaker 4: first of all Who's NBDP.

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Speaker 9: So there was the group bugget On Productions, which was

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Speaker 9: it consisted of kras One, Scottland, Rocky myself. Then in

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Speaker 9: the crew you know how you have a crew of

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Speaker 9: people just roll with you. There was always you know,

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Speaker 9: Miss Melody, Mick Bull, a gentleman we called RoboCop manager

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Speaker 9: Moe and I see.

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Speaker 1: Number one, yea, I should have just.

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Speaker 9: Should have did the intro to that record, but but

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Speaker 4: That was the most evil intro of all time? And

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Speaker 1: What's up Scottland Rock?

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Speaker 4: Like it was just like we always as a kid,

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Speaker 9: Meanwhile, I was the skinny kid you just gotta hear

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Speaker 4: Paul C's people saying that, well, I provided the drum

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Speaker 9: Okay, you know I met Paul you know, shortly before

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Speaker 9: he passed. I didn't know him like that, and he

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Speaker 9: So yeah, you know, like he definitely did drum program programming,

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Speaker 9: I wouldn't say he produced criminal minded. I wouldn't say that,

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Speaker 9: you know, wasn't He didn't do the bridges over. I

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Speaker 4: I think for some reason, like I don't know where

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Speaker 4: him Like I've heard, you know you on the Off

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Speaker 4: Wall Masters. You hear Rod Temperton giving people like instructions.

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Speaker 4: All right, guys, you play this an account three one

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Speaker 4: giving instructions, right, And I don't know how. I guess

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Speaker 4: But it doesn't work that much. Your hip hop though

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's hip hop, is just do you

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Speaker 4: think producer you think beat maker, and you don't really

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Speaker 4: give consideration to the person that may have actually brought

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: And I mean, isn't in the quote unquote real world,

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Speaker 7: the producer handles the budget, the booking, the studio and

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you'd like the executive producer, right.

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Speaker 1: That depends on the genre. I think that's true.

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Speaker 8: Fascinating. It's like class Okay, okay, yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean because I mean, well, no, no, no, I mean

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Speaker 4: I consider myself a producer, but you know, I only

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Speaker 1: Always.

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Speaker 4: But even with that, I don't even think you necessarily

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Speaker 4: So if you get Steve or whoever to cut vocals

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Speaker 4: figure out what's the wait, We're not starting to.

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Speaker 8: Fight out loud thought I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Okay, hypothetically you've gotten credit on stuff. I mean.

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Speaker 10: In hip hop, producing is known as bringing the beat,

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Speaker 10: maybe the whole album, to produce the album. But each

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Speaker 10: song is produced by whoever made the beat. In rock

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Speaker 10: music other music, the producer is the producer sure of

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Speaker 10: the whole project, the album, all the songs, and he

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Speaker 10: may not have played one, he may not have written anything.

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Speaker 1: You know he's produced. That's that's the distinction. Okay, and

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Speaker 9: No, but like I said, no disrespect is said man,

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Speaker 9: but that that record was produced by Scott Lorock in

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Speaker 4: So okay, Well, since you were there for South Bronx,

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Speaker 4: South Bronx was done. You guys could have laid claim

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Speaker 4: but stay, you just used the snare like you you

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Speaker 4: Why don't we just use the entire break or was

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and that's why there's a guy because we use

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Speaker 9: The same guy that engineered the record is actually playing

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Speaker 1: James the end of it. Yeah, who engineered it? The

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Speaker 1: least cut us a check.

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Speaker 9: Bill number one. I was sixteen at the time.

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Speaker 1: Were you were you round for the I'm not bill,

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Speaker 1: I'm sugar.

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Speaker 9: I think I'm going to my second class here he

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Speaker 4: I'm napping already, thanks Diddy, brother Love, brother Love. So

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Speaker 9: Twelve forty one. That was the twelve forty one. That

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Speaker 1: One that I didn't know. Yes, yes, that was the

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Speaker 9: Yeah, twelve forty one was the name of the group

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Speaker 4: Advanced, We Got to Advance, We Got to Advance. That

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Speaker 4: which probably explains that's probably what my mind. That's what

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Speaker 4: say it again. This told us it was something else. Oh,

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Speaker 9: So you know, I can tell you right now, none

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Speaker 1: I can tell you that I think that probably success

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Speaker 9: Success is the word was twelve forty one, and they

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Speaker 4: So what was the difference though, because the eight songs

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 1: And then you know, was it the anger of revenge.

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Speaker 4: That sparked them to like, yo, we gotta come with it,

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Speaker 4: or because there's clearly a difference between for our listeners

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Speaker 4: for us, the South Bronx and the Bridge is over

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Speaker 4: all these songs are sort of heated responses to mister Magic,

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Speaker 4: the music improved ten thousand percent, So what was what

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Speaker 4: I always wanted to know, what was the difference or

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Speaker 9: With I know what it was in terms of production

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Speaker 1: Had Eric being rock Cam like biz, but technically you

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Speaker 9: So but we heard those records though, so before they

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Speaker 9: to our evolution. That's that's why I like, even though

440
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 9: we had this beef with the Jewe Crew, the Jews

441
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 9: Crew helped brand BDP in terms of like the sound

442
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 9: the samples Marley had, you know, the Bridge. Clearly, the

443
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 9: Bridge came out before South Bronx, you know, and that

444
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 9: sound that he was doing was so hip hop and

445
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 9: so raw and like you know, and you know, we

446
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 9: kind of loved it. I remember being in the studio

447
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 9: with Scott, and like I said, we were in this

448
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 9: sixteen track studio in the in the Queens, and even

449
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 9: the way that he was like sampling these records was

450
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 9: just different from me, you know, Like I didn't know

451
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 9: anything about being in the studio, and I know for

452
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 9: sure that he wanted a record that would compete against

453
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 9: the Bridge, like he wanted that totally. There was no

454
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 9: lyrics for South Bronx. It was strictly about the way

455
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 9: that record felt. Scott wanted to be able to compete

456
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 9: with that, and he was thinking from like a DJ perspective,

457
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 9: you know, not to get all deep with it, because

458
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 9: it's not really that deep. It's when we were in

459
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 9: that studio. I remember that's what he was playing, and

460
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 9: that's what he wanted to compete against.

461
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 4: How long did it take to make? Were you guys

462
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 4: seventeen hour mix? Or was it like three hours? And

463
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 4: blame let's run into the river.

464
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 9: I can say the entire album probably took. If it's

465
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 9: ten songs, I'm not lying to you. It was done.

466
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 9: I mean clearly you can hear it because it's old school,

467
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 9: but it was done. In ten sessions, like ten sessions

468
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 9: to make Criminal Mind. It was made for under ten

469
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 9: thousand dollars, for sure, under ten grand South Bronx. We

470
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 9: went in there, we did that song and at the sky.

471
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 9: We probably paid like seven hundred and fifty dollars to

472
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 9: make South Bronx. And he played on it and he

473
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,239
Speaker 9: engineered it, he did ever thing.

474
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 4: Who was the president of rock Candy Records Records, So.

475
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 9: Rock Candy Records was, man, we can we really talk

476
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 9: right now. Rock Candy Records was a record company that

477
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 9: started as they sold pillows. Remember the pillows. They used

478
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 9: to sell like on the corner, like the big stuff pillows.

479
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 9: So they used to make the pillows and they were

480
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 9: all stuffed with like shredded denim. So the table on

481
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 9: the album cover of Criminal Minded was also a table

482
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 9: used to make the porn.

483
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: Because they used to shoot porn. Damn, I don't want.

484
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 9: This company was definitely like they were a small record

485
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 9: company called rock Candy. But in there, wait, dude, and

486
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 9: it gets better than that. It was like this Muslim dude.

487
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 9: There was Aish guy who funded a lot of it.

488
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 9: Always boy, listen, they made they made porn. I'm not

489
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 9: making this up.

490
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: Always so pillows.

491
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 9: There's like I'm just seing the link to them here,

492
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 9: Like there's a video of Scotland, Scotland Rock and I

493
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 9: performing South bron Chris couldn't make it, you know, not performed.

494
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,959
Speaker 9: But while we're performing South Bronx, you see these pillows

495
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:30,719
Speaker 9: on the side of us.

496
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: An early merchan deal, early endorsement, the first three damn.

497
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 8: Now you wonder what they are. Now that's interesting, a

498
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 8: musliming and Jewish man coming together for such a.

499
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: Yes man, man, you're serious, No, I'm dead serious.

500
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 4: So that was and then what was Boy, we got

501
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 4: to go further. So who made the deal to get

502
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 4: with these guys?

503
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: I mean there's records there.

504
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 9: We couldn't get deals. I'm telling you the real Yes,

505
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 9: I could never tell you all of this. Yes, he

506
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 9: wasn't there. The real deal is Scott and I were

507
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 9: walking down the street. We were like, I don't even

508
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 9: it's like on near Like, well, you're not from New York.

509
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 9: So there's a like an old courthouse on the Grand Concourse.

510
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 9: We were in that area and Scott saw he had

511
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 9: this newspaper and in the back of it it had

512
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 9: all of these companies.

513
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: So Scott.

514
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 9: We had no cell phone. Was none of that, Scott.

515
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 9: There was Rock Candy Records, and he got their number

516
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 9: from from a newspaper, like some industry like newspaper called

517
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 9: set up a meeting. I was on the next phone

518
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 9: talking to this check and this is the importance of it.

519
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 9: I know, I'm going way evan conversation. So that one

520
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 9: particular moment of him being on the phone setting up

521
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 9: a meeting to meet with the Rock Candy people, I

522
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 9: was on the phone just talking to just a friend

523
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 9: of mine. I was fifteen years old at the time.

524
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 9: I so crazy, man, Like I just I didn't want

525
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 9: to stand there not doing anything, and I wanted to

526
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 9: be like, well, if he's on the phone, I need

527
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 9: to get on the phone too. In that conversation, in

528
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 9: that moment of like talking to this young lady, nothing flirtatious,

529
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 9: none of that, her dude grabs the phone from a like, hey,

530
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 9: I know you're trying to talk to my girl. When

531
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 9: I see you, I'm gonna kill you. Not making this up.

532
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 9: In that one conversation where we worked out this meeting

533
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 9: to get with Rock Candy Records, I had this one

534
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 9: conversation with this young lady. And the reason why I

535
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 9: say I'm jumping the gun right now in this conversation

536
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,239
Speaker 9: is because that is the one conversation that I had

537
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 9: was with her was the reason why I ended up

538
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 9: having issues when we had records out with some random

539
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 9: dude rolling up on me. Wow, that pulled the gun

540
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 9: out on me. It had no idea why he was

541
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 9: pulling the gun on me, like, yo, you were trying

542
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 9: to talk to my girl and fucking kill you. And

543
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 9: that ended up being the situation that I was in

544
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 9: that cost Scott his life so crazy.

545
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: So both seeds were planning at that moment, in that

546
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: very moment.

547
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 9: She never even talked about this. I never even thought

548
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:28,719
Speaker 9: about that until now.

549
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 8: Wow.

550
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, in that very moment. Damn wow, I'm sorry. I

551
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: got to take a moment.

552
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 8: See a therapist just for that moment.

553
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: Now. Damn Now I feel I'm ruin it with the nerve.

554
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: So back to the poorn.

555
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 4: No, but you, but you also mentioned something else. You

556
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 4: said Scott was DJing that Dancitaria. Was he a legendary

557
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 4: New York DJ by that time or not at all?

558
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: He was?

559
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 4: I know that that Dancitaria is a high reputation nightclub

560
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 4: Jellybean Benitez was a DJ there.

561
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: I know Madonna frequent there a lot. Yes, that's where

562
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: the artist and all this, Like how did he get

563
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: a gig at Dancitarian.

564
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 9: So Scott used to DJ at a club uptown in

565
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 9: New York called Broadway International. So Broadway International, New York

566
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 9: City was kind of legendary and it was one of

567
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 9: the first clubs to allow people to just play hip hop.

568
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 9: So at Danceitteryia, Scott was he wasn't because you know,

569
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 9: early on, like people there were, we had no specific

570
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 9: genre of music that you wanted to just play, like

571
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 9: you played music. If it felt good, you played. That's

572
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 9: why I know all of these records as a DJ now,

573
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 9: because it was just about the groove. So Scott was

574
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 9: probably an opening DJ at a place like Dancitteria, but

575
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 9: at at Broadway International, he like that was like a

576
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 9: night that he did, so they him from that. But yeah,

577
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 9: I mean I was too young. My first club ever,

578
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 9: like first time ever going to a club was Latin Quarters.

579
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: Here we go, it's been a while. You have a

580
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: story about Latin I actually do.

581
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 4: They're mocking me because they think I might have don't

582
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 4: believe it. They think that I have a Latin Quarter fetish,

583
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 4: but I know that history is made at the Latin Quarter.

584
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: That's why I purposely didn't mention it, because I know,

585
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: we know we're going to go there, so it's cool,

586
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: you know, Latin Quarters. Man, We're gonna wait. This is

587
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: all right.

588
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 4: So I have a question and reflection. Have you been

589
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 4: to any of these gigs with with with with Scott

590
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 4: Scott as a detail? No, No, you were too young.

591
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 4: I was.

592
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 9: I didn't know him at the time. Okay, so by

593
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 9: the time I met Scott and he stopped, it was

594
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 9: strictly focusing on making the b DP records.

595
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 8: And what's the age difference real quick between you and

596
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 8: Scott at the time.

597
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: He's still seventeen. Yeah I was. No, I was.

598
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 9: I was fifteen when we met, and Scott was probably

599
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 9: like twenty five. Well he passed the twenty five so

600
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 9: Scott was twenty four at the time. So yeah, he

601
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 9: was a kid, which is so crazy.

602
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: Like a year though.

603
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 8: That's it's crazy too, because you basically saying you met

604
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 8: him a year.

605
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

606
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 9: I was involved in his life for one year a lot,

607
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 9: and he changed his life, changed my life, man, you know, Wow,

608
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 9: I don't know where I would have been without DJ Scottland.

609
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 8: Rock probably still with you, no, for sure.

610
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 4: Yes, So getting to the record labels like rock Candy

611
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 4: was the first one you guys chose, and wow, I'm

612
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 4: certain that it was a low end deal because it's

613
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 4: you know, because they had pillows pillows. That was an

614
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 4: evance ours a couple of throw pillows. No, it was

615
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 4: it was or was the artillery at least real on

616
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 4: the cover that album?

617
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: No, that was real? Oh sure, no, that was that.

618
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: That's what you said. That was nerve For me, all

619
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: that stuff is nerve and water.

620
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 9: The guns on that cover and also the UZI on

621
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 9: A one, Yeah.

622
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: That that was real.

623
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 8: We ain't gonna say were disappear just appear?

624
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: Yeah?

625
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 8: Shoot, I don't want to know that that much limitation.

626
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 4: So once these songs are made, what is the testing

627
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 4: ground to see, like, how do things go viral? At

628
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 4: that point the test in nineteen eighty six, how do

629
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 4: things go viral?

630
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 9: So in New York City was it like in park jams?

631
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 9: And specific was like if you tested your record at

632
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 9: a park jam and if people were rocking to it,

633
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 9: that was it. Now there are two moments that I

634
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 9: clearly remember. One was Scott and I back in the day,

635
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 9: you know, before m P three's, they would have what's

636
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 9: known as an acetate and just like, yeah, we just

637
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 9: had We had like twelve of them, twelve to fifteen

638
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 9: of them pressed up. And matter of fact, it was

639
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 9: like we went from Tom Coin like Tom Unknown Man,

640
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 9: we can talk music, bro. Tom was like every record

641
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 9: that we've we ever recorded was done by that dude.

642
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 9: He mastered everything. Ling Man like mastered everything from.

643
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 1: The South Bronx to Hamilton. That's so crazy.

644
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 9: But we went from like we had these plates done

645
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 9: at a place on forty second stret I can't remember

646
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,479
Speaker 9: the name of it, but we Scott and I would

647
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 9: walk around to like Park Jams and play the records

648
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 9: and I remember performing South Bronx and all I ever

649
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 9: said on that record was Joe was sub Scotland rock.

650
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 9: But we would go to Park Jams and because Chris

651
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 9: lived in Brooklyn at the time, actually no, he didn't

652
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 9: live in Brooklyn.

653
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: He lived in the.

654
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 9: No, he lived in the in the refrigerator in the

655
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 9: freezer of Rock Candy Records.

656
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 4: So.

657
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: Freezers, dude.

658
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 9: Wait, I'm not making this up. Chris and Miss Melody. Damn,

659
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 9: I'm going back.

660
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about this. Girl. Dude got me thinking about.

661
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 9: So well, we wade South Bronx in the same studio

662
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 9: or the same picture of office that they made the

663
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 9: porn and we shot the album covernor downstairs it was

664
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 9: like this a warehouse that that the office was housing

665
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 9: on on in like the Cypress area of the Bronx

666
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 9: with Susan No, not Susan Rond. What's the other the

667
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 9: other strip club? You know what I'm saying, a lot

668
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 9: of foolishness going over on over there. Anyway, downstairs there

669
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 9: was a freezer in the garage, so you know, like

670
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 9: if it's like if you it was a place where

671
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 9: you house like food you at the truck in or

672
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 9: dead bodies in the freezer. That's where Karas live with

673
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 9: Miss Melody. Now what's crazy about this is you know

674
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 9: the rolling paper, like when you're doing like big shipping

675
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 9: and you use the rolling paper around. You know, we

676
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 9: laid that down as carpet, put their bed in there,

677
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 9: and that's where they lived and Chris had to be

678
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 9: home at a certain hour before they closed because once

679
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 9: you were in that's when they locked it up. This

680
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 9: is I'm telling BDP. They didn't have one. You know,

681
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 9: once you're in, you're in, so you're in the freezer.

682
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 9: They lived in the freezer. When you get them.

683
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: On adam Min's shelter.

684
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 4: It's strictly to sleep in overnight, so you have to

685
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 4: be in a certain time and then in the morning

686
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 4: what time is it let out?

687
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 9: So in the morning, I mean, I never lived in

688
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 9: the men shelter. I just want to make that sch

689
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 9: but no, in the morning they had to get up,

690
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 9: you know, seven am, and get out, try to find

691
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 9: a jobs or whatever, and then they had to be

692
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 9: at a certain time. So in the men's shelter it

693
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 9: was like Krs Justice, I see you live there. Scottland

694
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 9: Rock was the social worker, a manager Moe who you

695
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 9: know still one of my best friends and managed our group,

696
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 9: was a security guard there. So that men's shelter was

697
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 9: extremely portant important to like early.

698
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: Hip hop, did they not have families or like what?

699
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 4: I'm certain that I know that the conditions in the

700
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 4: Bronx were like in Dire Straits. But was it just

701
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 4: because they didn't have family issues or.

702
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 9: I don't know what Chris's situation was and why he

703
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 9: was in the men's shelter. You know, I couldn't tell

704
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 9: you why. You know, I didn't meet Kenny Parker until

705
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 9: maybe like when we did Jack Space, So it was

706
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 9: around that album, So Jack of Space came out.

707
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: That was eighty No, no, it was eighty nine. No, no, no,

708
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: it was like eighty eight eighty eight.

709
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 4: Because it's super amazing to me that, uh, like, just

710
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 4: in general, like we're so dismissive of the home of

711
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 4: the of the homeless that they're damn near invisible to

712
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 4: us in society, because I think a lot of us

713
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 4: fear that that, you know, a lot of us are

714
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 4: you know, two checks away to Yeah, So it's like

715
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 4: it's hard to look at them, you know, to look

716
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 4: them in the eye and deal with it.

717
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: But it's like, I'm more amazed that.

718
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 4: In general people didn't scoff and just be like, you know,

719
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 4: like you're holmemost like, but there's the future of music

720
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 4: in this situation. So it's amazing to me how they

721
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 4: pulled themselves out of their position.

722
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 8: But isn't it amazing too that Scotland Rock was like

723
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 8: a social worker already.

724
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 9: And actually I want to I want to take something back.

725
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 9: Just I don't think Justice lived there, just with friends.

726
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 9: I want to clear that up. Okay, I thought, but

727
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 9: I see you definitely lived there. Chris definitely only lived.

728
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: There, you know.

729
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 8: And they're how old at the time.

730
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 9: Chris was pretty much the same age as Scott. So yeah,

731
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 9: Chris was roughly around twenty three, twenty four years old.

732
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, yeah, I mean we oft to them for

733
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 4: changing their situation around.

734
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, to go from sleeping in the freezer to having

735
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: a recording career.

736
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 4: So how were they able to learn because let's not

737
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 4: forget they changed hip hop, So how are they able

738
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 4: to learn technology? And I have these records like most

739
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 4: of us have the comfort of oh yeah, my mom

740
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 4: and dad have these records in our home.

741
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: Like, but like one of the resources they have to

742
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: know to change things.

743
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 9: Remember, Scott was the social.

744
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: Work Okay, so Scott situationatt went to you know, he

745
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 1: was college educated.

746
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 9: He went to school in Vermont, like Scott was always

747
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 9: wait he was yes, yeah, he went to I can't

748
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 9: remember which school, but he went to school. He went

749
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 9: to school in Vermont. Scott was a straight nerd, like

750
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 9: he would be sitting here doing this podcast with you,

751
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 9: like He was a straight up nerd back then, bro

752
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 9: like but he was a nerd dude that loved music,

753
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 9: that loved hip hop and listen, I never heard of

754
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 9: an interview. Let me tell you, man, I'll tell you

755
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 9: how much I loved Scott.

756
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: He was a nerd.

757
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 9: But we also anytime something happened, we would figure it out.

758
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 9: So I'll give you I'll give you a funny story.

759
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 9: First time I've ever been on a plane after South

760
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 9: Bronx was out was our very first show was in Rochester,

761
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 9: New York.

762
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: W d k X so in super ho.

763
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 11: No, so.

764
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: We went.

765
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 9: We were doing the show in Rochester. South Bronx was

766
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 9: the only record we had out. Dude, this is crazy.

767
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: So we went.

768
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 9: We had no place to stay, it was a one

769
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 9: way ticket, didn't have a fly back. We were going

770
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 9: to do this show and it was great. I lost

771
00:40:52,760 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 9: my virginity at this show. The show was extremely important.

772
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: That's how you remember it. So well, what is this

773
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: chapter gonna?

774
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 4: This is?

775
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: I figured out Rochester, Chester, So we went.

776
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 9: We went to this show, we performed. We didn't have

777
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 9: a hotel room. So the guy that brought us up,

778
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 9: his name was Scotty. I remember this man like, it's crazy.

779
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 9: So Scottie, I can't remember your sister's name.

780
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: That my virginity to So what's so?

781
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 9: What's crazy is Scott we flew into Rochester and he

782
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 9: brought a young lady with us. So it was it

783
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 9: was Terras, Scotland Rock, myself and this young lady and

784
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 9: the guy that produced the show brought us. He asked

785
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 9: us to stay at his house. So in the middle

786
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 9: of the night, not me know this is crazy. In

787
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 9: the middle of the night, his mom woke up. She

788
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 9: was super Christian. She found out that there was a

789
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 9: young lady staying with us.

790
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: Yo.

791
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 9: She walked around the house and she had like the

792
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 9: holy water and she was putting crosses on our heads

793
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 9: and she and she told us to get out of

794
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 9: her house, and only the young lady could stay. So

795
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 9: we had no place to go.

796
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: We had no money.

797
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 9: Me, Scott, Caress, dude. We broke into like a motel six.

798
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 9: What we broke into a motel six and we the

799
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 9: three of us, stayed in this one room. Scott slept

800
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 9: in the bed, Kara slept on the floor. I slept

801
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 9: on the desk. But we knew we had to get

802
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 9: out of the room before before.

803
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: Came. So we like, you get in the room, like.

804
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 9: Literally broke it was a motel six, so you know.

805
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: I thought you crashed the windows.

806
00:42:54,440 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 9: No, no, no, like kick through the door, just staying yo, man,

807
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 9: I think.

808
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: Y'all, y'all, y'all went through the fire to make my

809
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: life easy. It's crazy.

810
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 8: The social worker, the fifteen year old, and I can't.

811
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, did you guys have tour support support?

812
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 9: We didn't have a check rider, we didn't have any

813
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 9: of that. No, so so what the story gets better though,

814
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 9: So after breaking into this hotel room, we left like

815
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 9: five or six in the morning, and we fell asleep

816
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 9: on these steps and it was the steps of a school.

817
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 9: And I swear to you, the three of us woke

818
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 9: up to like these little kids throwing candy at.

819
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 3: Wake up.

820
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

821
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 8: And what did you say you did last night? You

822
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 8: said you broke it a million dollars. Okay, this man,

823
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 8: you come a long way.

824
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: The song the sound came and hooked him up. The

825
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: song throwing candy at him? Not a bad life.

826
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 4: How did you guys organize shows in those early days

827
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 4: when you didn't have.

828
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, a ten song catalog?

829
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 4: To perform for the audience when you only had three songs,

830
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 4: like would you just go back and forth on big

831
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 4: beat for twenty minutes? Or somebody say ho, or like

832
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 4: how did you you only had a little bit of

833
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 4: vegetable and meat, but you needed a lot of broth?

834
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: Like what was it a show back then for twenty minutes?

835
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry? That was a good reference? Was he a sports?

836
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: That was a solid soup metaphor and a first of many?

837
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 9: Please we know there. We didn't do a lot of

838
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 9: freestyle stuff at all.

839
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: You just do your one song and that's it was.

840
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 9: Yet we did the one well, we always had two songs,

841
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 9: so we had South Bronx and the PS three, So

842
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 9: that was my involvement.

843
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: So I was right, you're the t R eight oh eight. Yeah.

844
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 9: I was doing the beatbox on the PS three my

845
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 9: first time and probably No No first and I think

846
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 9: the second time beatboxing was on No Rozelle. By the way,

847
00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 9: No Rozelle only beatbox on two records. He is Free

848
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 9: and on Uh the Bioman's Necessary album there was a

849
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 9: song with.

850
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: Breath control, breath control, that's you? Was that Booby is Necessary?

851
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 4: Uh?

852
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 9: That was on the Blueprint yeah, I worked.

853
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is you. Yeah, that was my damn yeah

854
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: that nice? Nice nice, That was me with the sample,

855
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: you know that is right? Uh well he starts with

856
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 1: Ray Charles and then is that Duke Gallington?

857
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 9: No, No, the beat is Oh my gosh, hate Jude,

858
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 9: who did hate you?

859
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: The Beatles? Not the Beatles? The Soul version Clarence not

860
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: Clarence William the hundred. What's that? What's his name in

861
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: the Night Hour? What's his name?

862
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 9: Wilson Pickett, Wilson Wilson Pickets version. So I sampled it

863
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 9: is yeah, organ, the organ.

864
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: Okay, so that was that.

865
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 9: That was the Wilson Pickett version of Hey.

866
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 4: Nice Okay, okay, So okay, I gotta get to the

867
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 4: rivalry part. So you know, are you guys, were there

868
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 4: any meetings between not meetings, rivalries or whatever between the

869
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 4: Jews Crew you guys after that initial meeting, Like because

870
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 4: New York hip hops community is small, so surely there

871
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 4: has to be a running or two.

872
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 9: So with the Jewe Crew, I don't know what happened

873
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 9: before I was involved with the group, So I you know,

874
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 9: I really part of South Bronx. I didn't understand because

875
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,959
Speaker 9: I you know, I wasn't there to experience that first

876
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 9: meeting that care Us and Scott had afterwards, My best

877
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 9: friend was in the Juice Crew and still one of

878
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 9: my best friends to this day, Big Daddy Kane.

879
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: So before any not to say, y'all still used to

880
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: give him shoutouts.

881
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, came was always king was my dude, like that

882
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 9: was I mean, he and kr Us or he actually

883
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 9: helped care Us move into his first apartment. So even

884
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 9: though we had this rivalry with the Juice Crew, it

885
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 9: was more about records than anything. I mean, there was

886
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 9: some animosity there because I'll talk about it at all.

887
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 9: It was just like we never had those conversations. At

888
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 9: least I was never a part of those conversations. I

889
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 9: don't know if Chris did with Magic or but no,

890
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 9: we it was strictly about records and versus those guys

891
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 9: because Marty, come on, you know, Marley worked with Chris

892
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 9: Man Like, Marley was always a good dude. And and

893
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 9: the thing about me is, you know, back then and

894
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 9: even now, man, I was always a lover of hip

895
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 9: hop and producers. Like once I once I became involved

896
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 9: with it, it's like I wanted to know everything about

897
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 9: the culture like everything, and when I met the players,

898
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 9: you know, when I met Marri or when I met

899
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 9: Dougie Fresh or like, I was always a fan. So

900
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 9: even though we made these records and bridges over, I

901
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 9: was still a fan of those dudes, Like they walked

902
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 9: into a room. I remember being in a club in

903
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 9: the Bronx on Tremont Avenue and I was there by

904
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 9: myself at this club, and I remember when the Juice

905
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 9: crew walked in. There was this swag about it, like,

906
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 9: you know, to see Shan walk in with Biz and

907
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 9: TJ Swan and then walking in to do a show.

908
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 9: She was crazy to me, Like even though we were

909
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 9: competing against them, respect that, yeah, because they really had

910
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 9: a crew. We didn't have a crew. It was Scottland

911
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 9: rock care resting in myself, I.

912
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: Thought y'all rolled ten billions based on that. My philosophy

913
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: video was like yo, yeah, so I couldn't even tell

914
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: you who have of those people are all Fat Freddy's

915
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: friends exactly? So I gotta go there? What give us? All? Right?

916
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 4: There's a nightclub in midtown Manhattan. Oh yeah, I don't

917
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 4: know if you heard about it. What it's called the

918
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 4: Latin Quarter.

919
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: I think I have been there before, man, So.

920
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 4: For you, can you just give us a general synopsis

921
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 4: of reopen the Latin Quarter, or at least make a

922
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 4: documentary about it.

923
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 9: No, no, no, that's one of the docs I want

924
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 9: to work on is on the Latin because it was

925
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 9: such First of all, I had no idea. It wasn't

926
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 9: until two thousand and like roughly around two thousand and five,

927
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 9: two thousand and six. I was at you know, buddy

928
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 9: Chris Lighty's house and we were in the backyard playing

929
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 9: basketball and we talked about the Latin Quarter. I had

930
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 9: no idea that it was a juice bar, like they

931
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 9: served no alcohol. Wait, wait, listen, there was no alcohol

932
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 9: served at our parties.

933
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 8: Nobody has said this.

934
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 4: No wait, during that hip hop era, during the hip

935
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 4: hop era, you weren't getting nice.

936
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 8: No.

937
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 9: That's so when Chris said, yeah, it's crazy there was

938
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 9: a juice bar, I was like, what are you talking about?

939
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 9: Because I was too young to drink. I was in

940
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 9: there when I was like fifteen sixteen. They served no alcohol.

941
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 9: So all all that aggression was just dudes probably getting

942
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 9: nice before the club and the way hip hop made

943
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 9: them feel. And when I tell you that this club was.

944
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 9: This club was everything. This was the mecha of hip

945
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 9: hop at the time, you know, like everything changed from

946
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 9: this club. That was the first place we ever played

947
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 9: South Bronx. That was the first time I ever heard

948
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 9: Eric being rock him. Matter of fact, it was the

949
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 9: first time that I met Mike Tyson. So here's my

950
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 9: Mike Tyson story.

951
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: Together.

952
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 9: Mike Tyson was a beast. We were all young, young

953
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 9: dude like.

954
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: So we walked this point.

955
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 9: He was Mike Tyson, but he didn't have the belt

956
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 9: was six, I mean six, too much of this guy, Damn.

957
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: Six. This was eighty six.

958
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 9: So I remember walking into the restroom into the I'm

959
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 9: a little nice right now in a little boogie.

960
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: So I walked into the.

961
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 9: Bathroom, walked walked into the bathroom, and Mike Tyson was

962
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 9: next to me taking a piss. This is this is

963
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 9: real ship right here. Mike accidentally stepped on a dudes stepped.

964
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: On the sneakers. Dude.

965
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 9: Dude was like, yo, you stepped the much blah blah blah,

966
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 9: and Mike hit him one time, knocked the dude out

967
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 9: in the bathroom and then stepped over him to exit

968
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 9: the bathroom.

969
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: No lie.

970
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 8: Was there he can tell you no words like he

971
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 8: ain't saying nothing.

972
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: To say anything. This dude out stepped over him and

973
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: walked out. We have another Mike Tyson punched somebody's story.

974
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: I swear to God we have the name of campbells

975
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: Naomi Campbell. So I mean she didn't push nail me

976
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: out the car?

977
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 8: Did you know Hea the Hunter? Because you know she

978
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 8: lived at the Latin Quarter we have.

979
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 9: I've known Heather since back then in the freezer, since

980
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 9: the freezer pillows. I don't know her in the freezer

981
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 9: or with the pillows under her back, none of that,

982
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 9: none of that.

983
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 8: You haven't see that apartment, she says. They look like

984
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 8: the Cotton Club and whatnot up there that's in Dumbo

985
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 8: or inside the last She lived in the Latin Quarter

986
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 8: with David Copperfield.

987
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, David Copperfield lived in the Latin Quarter.

988
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 9: So the guy who owned the guy who owned the

989
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 9: Latin Quarter was a guy named Mike. I can't remember

990
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 9: Mike's last name, but Mike managed David Copperfield back then,

991
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 9: so he was making his money from from now some

992
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 9: other things, but no, for sure he managed David Copperfield.

993
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 9: I remember, so every time I see David Copperfield's name

994
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 9: in Vegas, I'm like, I could make it too.

995
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: I could do this. Wow, disappear at the Latin Quarter happen.

996
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 9: No, that's crazy. I didn't know you were obsessed with

997
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 9: the Latin Quarters. Man, it was serious.

998
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with hip hop history.

999
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 4: But I'm more I'm trying to figure out why because

1000
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 4: of Okay, it's one thing for you to be like

1001
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 4: a legend or in the industry and you roll with

1002
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 4: a lot of people, like if you're carrying Red alerts

1003
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 4: records something you kind of protected you in the DJ

1004
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 4: booth or whatever. But I'm just to the point where

1005
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 4: people were coming from all walks of life to getting

1006
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 4: this club, and you know, your chain could be victed,

1007
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 4: you could be It's like going to the prison yard jackets.

1008
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,479
Speaker 4: But everybody, but everyone that sits and tells that Latin

1009
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 4: Quarter story has such romantic, kind of amazing stories, Like,

1010
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 4: but people are getting jacked and fucked up.

1011
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 9: Yeah, but when you're a part of it, you don't

1012
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 9: realize that you just got jacked fucked up.

1013
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 4: You're like just happy to be there, Like, is it

1014
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 4: you know one person that just has a fuck Latin

1015
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 4: quarter stories like I got I.

1016
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 9: Don't know anyone, and I'm telling you I've seen a

1017
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 9: lot of shit happen in the Latin quarters. Here's another story, right,

1018
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 9: so we're in the Latin quarters and this is why

1019
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 9: this should be in a juice bar. Is so crazy

1020
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 9: to me because I cannot believe that everyone was fighting

1021
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 9: like this, like it was sober. It was fighting like

1022
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 9: the sober dude. Like there was a dude who worked

1023
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 9: at the front door. They called he had a doll

1024
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 9: made after him, like in the eighties, he was called Sunman.

1025
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 9: If you wait what yo wait wait he was like

1026
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 9: he was was.

1027
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: That was.

1028
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 9: His whole body was like a y like and they

1029
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 9: called him sonman. Like I'm not making this up. MC search,

1030
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 9: you asked, search Search was there. Michael Rappaport was there

1031
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 9: like this, Listen. He was bold enough to get Michael

1032
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 9: rap everywhere, was everywhere. I'm not lying, broke, Michael rapp

1033
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 9: Report is the truth. People people look at him sometime

1034
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 9: they're like, you coach you roser. No, he was there,

1035
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 9: like he was there all the ship he talks. I

1036
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 9: swear to you, Michael Rappaport was there. He was there

1037
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 9: the one skinny Skinny Kid, skinny white Kid. In the

1038
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 9: middle of hip hop party was Mike Rappaport.

1039
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: Is this man, dude? Is that the doll?

1040
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 9: So that's the doll from back in the day. That's yo.

1041
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 9: The guy was that is smart he.

1042
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 1: Having? And what was son Man's special power? I don't

1043
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: even know. He blocked before sun Man word son Man.

1044
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: So he was the guy he was.

1045
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 9: He was the security back at the Latin Quarters. So

1046
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 9: he let certain people in anyway, So once we were inside,

1047
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 9: you always felt safe, but not really because she always

1048
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 9: because some man was at the door. How many people

1049
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 9: were at the door? I couldn't even tell you. I

1050
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,919
Speaker 9: do remember son Man. I remember son Man. God damn,

1051
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:52,240
Speaker 9: I have his number on my phone. No, but these dudes,

1052
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 9: this is too much to rock. By the way, brother Love,

1053
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 9: I love you. I can be extremely honest. These dudes.

1054
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 9: If there was a fight going on in front of

1055
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 9: the Latin Quarters, I swear to God, they would lift

1056
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 9: up the cars and move the cars. They were that strong.

1057
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 9: It was like dudes that was at the door and

1058
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 9: they weren't in full force, but they weren't dressed like them,

1059
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 9: but they would, like I swear to you, bro like

1060
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 9: move cars.

1061
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: It was crazy. Yo.

1062
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 9: The Latin Quarters by far the best experience I ever

1063
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 9: had in my life in terms of being in the

1064
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 9: club in just pure hip hop moments. There was a

1065
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 9: moment in the quarters right where the Decepticons were fighting

1066
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:41,959
Speaker 9: against the A team.

1067
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: Wait, there was the eighteen there. I never heard the

1068
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: eight so.

1069
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 9: They were all there were a bunch of dancers that

1070
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 9: could fight well. But yo, that's the best I've ever heard.

1071
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 8: But the.

1072
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: Thing is, I can fight well.

1073
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 9: By the way, if you're still alive, no disiness bag.

1074
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 9: But no, this moment was so crazy. So we're in

1075
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 9: the club. I don't know why they started fighting. I

1076
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 9: just remember LL had his big cool j ring.

1077
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: So you know the story. I've heard of this story.

1078
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: So the story. I was there.

1079
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 9: I saw the fights happening. I was safely in the

1080
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 9: DJ booth with red alert. But red alert listen, man,

1081
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 9: red alert is in O G Chris lighty O gs LLLL.

1082
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 9: You can say what you want about him licking his

1083
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 9: lips that.

1084
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: Hell j O G. Man.

1085
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 9: The fights happened, people were trying to like trying to

1086
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 9: rob LLLL. Pretty much what this was, I'm telling you.

1087
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 9: It was like the wild Wild West bro.

1088
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,439
Speaker 1: So the lights were on, but with dancing.

1089
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 11: Choreography, it was like the dude, it was crazy in

1090
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 11: all of these sections of people fighting, the Scepticons, the

1091
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 11: A Team, and this regular party goes un.

1092
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 9: So everyone's fighting.

1093
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm into DJ booth, like you, this is crazy. This

1094
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: is crazy.

1095
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 9: Red Alert was trying to jump from the DJ booth

1096
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 9: because it was on the second level. He was trying

1097
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 9: to jump out of the DJ booth because Chris Lighty

1098
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 9: was fighting. Chris Lighty's fighting because Chris is trying to

1099
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 9: protect LLLL and Chris used to carry Red Alerts records

1100
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 9: at the time, So Chris is fighting, everyone's fighting. Scott

1101
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 9: Lak and I in the DJ booth. I don't know

1102
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 9: if Kris was there. I honestly don't know. But what

1103
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 9: I do know is this once, once the fighting stopped,

1104
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 9: LLLL had handled his right l I I you know, like, look,

1105
00:58:59,200 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 9: I'm telling you.

1106
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: This, that one with.

1107
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 9: His lips licked, licking his lips. He handled, He handled

1108
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 9: this bro like Chris Lighty was a beast, like for real,

1109
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 9: for real.

1110
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: Like I've heard that about Chris.

1111
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 9: Chris was a beast. Chris walked into the DJ booth,

1112
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 9: and I won't forget this moment. He kept saying, my

1113
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 9: back is burning, my back is burned. And he pulled

1114
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 9: his shirt off in front of scottlar Rocker and I

1115
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 9: in this DJ booth, And that was the first I

1116
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 9: didn't know what raizor blade slices looked like. So when

1117
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,439
Speaker 9: he pulled his shirt off and he bent his back,

1118
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 9: everything just opened up crazy like Gloria, like give me

1119
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 9: a sip of rocket.

1120
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: It wasn't quite like like, so you're saying that weapons

1121
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: would still get inside of with Sunman at the door,

1122
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: Damn your son Man Man on the phone, crazy, it's crazy.

1123
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 9: I'm exhausted, she said, I'm exhausted. Yeah, no, I've seen

1124
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 9: I've seen some things. Man, Latin Quarters Man, this should

1125
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 9: definitely be a documentary on the Latin.

1126
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 1: Quarters or at least like a fictionalized yeah, b T tails.

1127
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 12: You know, Leftime Movie Network, Definitely, Netflix, dancography the way

1128
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 12: that the way that it is today, where you know,

1129
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 12: unless you're a bona fide celebrity, i e.

1130
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: You put a Drake song on, you know, oh that's Drake,

1131
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: or uh, there's the New Migos or whatever.

1132
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 4: Maybe Cardi B has uh, at least a three or

1133
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 4: four second pass of playing untested material, and you know,

1134
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 4: and that's her voice, and so it's like, all right,

1135
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 4: we'll give that a chance, or you know whatever, Kanye

1136
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 4: or whoever's winning at the moment.

1137
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: But you know, I hear that a lot of these

1138
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: songs were tested.

1139
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 4: At the Latin Quarter and went off like gangbusters without

1140
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 4: people really knowing that, Like, you know, these guys weren't celebrities.

1141
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 4: So it's like you're hearing you're hearing Rebel without a

1142
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 4: pause the first time, knowing that you didn't think too

1143
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 4: highly of Public Enemy's performance the year before whenever they

1144
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 4: first performed. Chuck said that they had a horrible performance

1145
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 4: at the Latin Quarter that really didn't go off well.

1146
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 4: And you know Mel was disrespected, but it's just.

1147
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 1: Wait, male disrespected them too.

1148
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 4: Disrespect was like the Heckler the going from what from

1149
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 4: different stories we've heard, like he.

1150
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: Hit in the back.

1151
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 4: Just why that Mel you would try to skip the

1152
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 4: record in the DJ booth if he didn't like a

1153
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 4: particular act or you're crazy, because I mean by that

1154
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 4: point now was like like thirty two, thirty three, So

1155
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 4: it's like the new generation was I mean be like

1156
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 4: me trying to go to uh one, ok right now, like.

1157
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 1: You don't know me if you are worried about what

1158
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Anyway? Wait, some even crazier?

1159
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: Why is some even crazier?

1160
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 4: So now if it's an all ages show where kids

1161
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 4: are there, uh and by kids, I mean like the

1162
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 4: kids of like whoever, like our real roots fans are

1163
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 4: like they bring them twelve to thirteen years old. Yo,

1164
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:47,439
Speaker 4: motherfuckers think that we're now doing the Drake song, Oh Drake,

1165
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 4: oh Drake's, Oh my God, like my Drake trek check is.

1166
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: Awesome for what one of those songs on if you're

1167
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 1: reading they're reading this, okay, shut me neither.

1168
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 4: I mean you got me as one of his hooks,

1169
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 4: like he does it twice at the end. But when

1170
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 4: we do it, the look on their faces.

1171
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 1: Like they're doing it's good.

1172
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 8: I mean, it's good, but it's just you just don't

1173
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 8: It's just.

1174
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: Makes you feel old.

1175
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 8: That's made me feel old.

1176
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 4: Man.

1177
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 1: They know the song, that's all.

1178
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 8: I don't hear the check, so I just feel old.

1179
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 8: I listened to the story, you know that's wow.

1180
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: Can you just take the hook again? Look? Man, quest

1181
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: A little coffee and full of singing. I was just

1182
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: the young boy. I gotta this movie. Get back to

1183
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: the interview, more stories. I'm sorry, we just needed had coffee.

1184
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: Please off.

1185
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,439
Speaker 4: So why why did Mel come up to you guys

1186
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 4: to pick a battle? Was it because it was all

1187
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 4: about you guys?

1188
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 9: Or you know right now, like if you're listening, I

1189
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 9: love you. Back then, I looked at him. He was

1190
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 9: a straight hater. Yeah, straight up hater. And and I'll

1191
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 9: tell you a story, brother, we were And I remember

1192
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 9: this clearly because at the time I was mad at

1193
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 9: KRS and I was getting my first apartment and.

1194
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: Don Lewis, I know, this is wait a minute, different world,

1195
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 1: cosmby people were coming to this.

1196
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 9: Yes, yes, yes, Don Lewis was like my big sister down,

1197
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 9: I love you.

1198
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 1: Where is she now?

1199
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 9: She's still you know, she's still making stuff and you

1200
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 9: know she's in LA But no, Don Dawn was that.

1201
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 9: This is why I remember these stories because of moments

1202
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 9: in my life where it was so important and pivotal moments.

1203
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 9: I had my first apartment when I was sixteen. I

1204
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 9: didn't have a bed. I used to sleep on these coats,

1205
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 9: not like I had one bedroom apartment.

1206
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: But I never bet.

1207
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 9: All I had was a stereo system. That's all I

1208
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 9: wanted music. No no bed, not a sofa, not even

1209
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 9: a plate. I had an apartment. The apartment had like

1210
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 9: you know, back in the day they used to glue

1211
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 9: the like the carpet to the floor. Just imagine no

1212
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 9: carpet and it was all half scraped. These are my

1213
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 9: memories of like that time we're part of New York.

1214
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 9: I was living in Washington Heights on Edgecomb Avenue and

1215
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 9: like one hundred and sixty third Street in Edgecomb, right

1216
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 9: right by the bridge going into the Bronx. So I

1217
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 9: remember that vividly and going to the quarters this one

1218
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 9: particular night. And this night that I went to the quarters,

1219
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 9: Melle Mel was there, Miss Melody was there. It was

1220
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 9: you know, regular rap show with like a thousand people

1221
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 9: on stage. You don't really know, but everybody just wants

1222
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 9: to be on stage the rap shit. And Mellie Mel said,

1223
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 9: fuck these niggas, fuck that ship. We had South Bronx out.

1224
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 9: So when kas performs poetry, when he said say something,

1225
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 9: now thought, so he did that rhyme that night before

1226
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 9: poetry was done. We only had South Bronx out, so

1227
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 9: Mel said what he said, and Chris was on the

1228
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 9: mic rhyming and doing poetry. So that's the one time

1229
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 9: of like freestyling that I personally remember where Chris was

1230
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 9: like say something now and put the mic to Mel's

1231
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 9: face and he said nothing, kind of like when you

1232
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 9: asked me to rhyme.

1233
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: Earlier, and.

1234
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 9: Then he was like thought so, and the crowd went crazy.

1235
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 9: That's the Melli Mel experience that I remember where I

1236
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 9: lost all respect for Mel. I was strictly because even

1237
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 9: though I'm in a group, I'm like, Kris is the king. Whoa,

1238
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 9: I'm not down. No, Cara Rest was the king bro

1239
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 9: like the king of disrespecting early on.

1240
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: So that was would rhymes on standby and he just

1241
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 1: had rhymes man.

1242
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 9: Outside of literally outside of like Black Thought and Big

1243
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 9: Daddy Kane. I don't know anyone in Tupac. Tupac had

1244
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 9: rhymes for fucking years. We'll still here Tupac records and

1245
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 9: when we're like ninety brand new joints. But those dudes were,

1246
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 9: in my opinion, true MC's that was always prepared, always

1247
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 9: had something. They always had something.

1248
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 4: Chris told me, he showed me like a couple of

1249
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 4: he had at least four competitions of notebooks.

1250
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 1: Yes, and the last thing he left us with.

1251
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 4: The last thing he left us with, he says, hey,

1252
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 4: I even got a black thought this He said he would.

1253
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 9: Write, this is for Chris, would write he would have

1254
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 9: this record.

1255
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 1: So he turned to the page he has.

1256
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,439
Speaker 4: No he's he was like, he was like some next movement,

1257
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 4: like he had he had it just in case I'm

1258
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 4: ready for you.

1259
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 9: I'm always Kris always had lyrics for every MC that

1260
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 9: was hot from Caine everything, and Caine was our boy,

1261
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 9: but he was still in the Juice Crew. So Chris

1262
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 9: was always prepared to battle anyone. And that was something

1263
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 9: that I was never really I didn't know about that

1264
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 9: any of that, you know, I mean records, because it

1265
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 9: was I just loved music. I wasn't prepared. I wasn't

1266
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 9: really prepared for that kind of m scene, you know.

1267
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 4: So talk to me about regrouping in the group's future

1268
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 4: after Scott passed. Like at that time, was it just

1269
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 4: like okay, but well I guess that's it no more?

1270
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 4: Or was it like we gotta do this in Scott's

1271
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 4: memory and no, it was like how what happened?

1272
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 9: So just to tell you know the QLs audience. Scott

1273
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 9: love Rock passed away coming to my aid. You know,

1274
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 9: I had an issue with a young not even with

1275
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 9: a young lady, some random issue, wasn't even an issue

1276
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,560
Speaker 9: of my own. Scott came to my aid and this

1277
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:23,759
Speaker 9: is this was so crazy, bro like. We're in the Bronx,

1278
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 9: Highbridge area of the Bronx. It's probably I don't even

1279
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 9: remember the exact street, but we were in the Highbridge

1280
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 9: area of the Bronx, not too far from Yankee Stadium.

1281
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:31,640
Speaker 1: That's where I grew up.

1282
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:33,640
Speaker 9: We're in this area and walking down the street eight

1283
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 9: o'clock in the morning, a group of people rolled up

1284
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 9: on me, had no idea who they were, and had

1285
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 9: this beef with them where they pulled the gun out,

1286
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 9: smacked me with the pistol and ran off. The first

1287
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 9: person that I called was Scott. I went to a

1288
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 9: pay phone called Scott, told him what happened. And Scott

1289
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 9: already had this crazy day of locking himself out, locking

1290
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 9: himself not laughing at his death at all, but locking

1291
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 9: himself out of his apartment and hanging a rope from

1292
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:06,680
Speaker 9: a fire escape down to his apartment to climb into

1293
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 9: the window. It was just one of those days like yo,

1294
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 9: back in the day in the Bronx is what you

1295
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 9: had to do, man. So that's why that's why I'm like, man,

1296
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 9: this life is great. This life is great. So Scott,

1297
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 9: after having that situation, I called Scott up and he

1298
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 9: the one thing that he told me was, look, man,

1299
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 9: we don't need any issues. We don't need any issues.

1300
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:29,639
Speaker 9: We need to squash this like it needs to be done.

1301
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 9: I'm going to come over, We're going to find the people,

1302
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 9: make sure everything is cool. And our mission of peace

1303
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 9: was strictly about peace until this one guy, This one

1304
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 9: guy that we had with us, we called him Robocops.

1305
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 9: So he was the original guy, not the one care

1306
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 9: Ris mentions on like I'm still number one, but he

1307
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 9: was the original guy that we worked with. He was

1308
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 9: He also was like a security guard at the Latin quarters.

1309
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 9: But what we didn't know was that he was the

1310
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 9: east Side rapist.

1311
01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 1: I know this sounds crazy, sh turn around. I don't

1312
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 1: know what to do.

1313
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 8: I just got nervous.

1314
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 9: I don't know he was the east Side rapist. So

1315
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 9: later on, if you google him, east side rapist New York,

1316
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 9: Daryl was his name.

1317
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 8: I'm afraid to how many right now know how many

1318
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 8: bicks he got under that?

1319
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 9: I don't know. It was wow like But anyway, so

1320
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 9: this guy was a hothead dude, you know. And so

1321
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 9: the mission of peace of like going to the Bronx

1322
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 9: to find these guys that that rolled up on me

1323
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 9: became a mission of like, we're looking for trouble only

1324
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 9: because of this one person. So he we were at

1325
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 9: the projects highbridg High Bridge projects in the Bronx were

1326
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 9: we were on one side of the street. Uh K

1327
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 9: seven was there before he was K seven. He was

1328
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 9: in another group before that t K. So he was

1329
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 9: around there like we were. I remember this was one

1330
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 9: one way street. We were parked in the right right

1331
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 9: hand side. The projects were on the left. It's still

1332
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 9: that's rock talking. So if I slur a little bit,

1333
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:02,560
Speaker 9: please forget me. But anyway, Scott and I were. It

1334
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 9: was me, Scott, manager, Moe, Mick Bull, and the guy

1335
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 9: we call RoboCop. So RoboCop went to ask one gentleman, hey,

1336
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 9: we're looking for blah blah blah.

1337
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: We didn't hear the conversation.

1338
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 9: What all we saw was whatever this dude said to

1339
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 9: him angered him, and he picked and he was like

1340
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 9: a six four sixty five dude picked this young.

1341
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 1: Kid up and just slammed him.

1342
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 9: Now, which was that was a crazy moment because if

1343
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 9: if it wasn't all about peace for them at that point,

1344
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 9: to us, it was like we were coming to just

1345
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 9: make sure we had no issues. But in that moment,

1346
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 9: those kids were like, this is it's on. And while

1347
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 9: we were standing there, maybe thirty minutes later, we were

1348
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 9: standing out there and all of a sudden.

1349
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: Shots ranged for thirty minutes.

1350
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 9: I mean we were there for thirty minutes after the fact,

1351
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 9: and all of a sudden shots came. Shots ranged from

1352
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 9: the roof and from the bush. So our guy was

1353
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 9: hit twice, you know, Scott Loan Rock was hit twice,

1354
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 9: shot in his head twice. Bullets literally went past us

1355
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:11,719
Speaker 9: because he was on the Like I told you before,

1356
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 9: we were on the right hand side of the street.

1357
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:14,679
Speaker 1: He was in the passenger side.

1358
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 9: They were shooting from the left side, so bullets went

1359
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 9: through past all of it him to him, no lies crazy.

1360
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 9: So this guy gave his life, you know. So I

1361
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 9: never want to just when I when I talk about him,

1362
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 9: you know, I want to talk about the importance of

1363
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 9: like Scotland Rock and the importance to me.

1364
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 1: They introduced me to music.

1365
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 9: He gave his life for me, and to this day,

1366
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 9: his son is like someone that I loved that I

1367
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 9: try my best to make sure he's always straight because that's.

1368
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: What his dad did for me. How old is Scotlan

1369
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 1: Rock R. Scottlan Rock Junior is probably like thirty two

1370
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 1: now thirty.

1371
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 4: One because I always wanted to I mean that whole

1372
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 4: Scotlar Rock Jr. My pride enjoyed, always wanted to know

1373
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 4: what happened to him. Okay, he's awesome, man.

1374
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 1: What does he do now?

1375
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 9: Like he's producing music, He's been putting out like putting

1376
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 9: out his compilations, you know, you know, just just recently,

1377
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,719
Speaker 9: you know, we we got together, got him a new NPC.

1378
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 9: You know, I want to do things with him that

1379
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 9: his dad did for me. You know, like if you

1380
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 9: want to be involved in music, let's do it. Like here,

1381
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 9: use this gear, I have this, come and get it.

1382
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 9: Let's make music. It's yours because that's what his dad,

1383
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 9: his dad gave me. It's almost like you have this

1384
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 9: this guardian angel that came into your life, put all

1385
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 9: these things in front of you and said hey, do

1386
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 9: what you can with it. Like I would not have

1387
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 9: known red alert, I wouldn't have known care rest.

1388
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:47,560
Speaker 1: For sure. He didn't even liked me.

1389
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 9: He didn't even he didn't even understand why Scott put

1390
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 9: me in the group. Matter of fact, it back to

1391
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 9: the original.

1392
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 1: No, Chris and I weren't we bickering brothers are like

1393
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: real like I don't like that kid.

1394
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,799
Speaker 9: For Chris when I think about it now as an adult,

1395
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 9: Chris was probably angry with me because Scott lost his life.

1396
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:11,560
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, like, I know the guilt you

1397
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 4: had to to internalize. Still I don't how did you

1398
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 4: to deal with each other or talk with each other

1399
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 4: or after that fact or was it just a white

1400
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 4: elephant you guys never spoke of And then like years

1401
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 4: later it.

1402
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 9: Was like, I don't, I don't want to call it

1403
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 9: a white elephant. Chris definitely treated me a certain kind

1404
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 9: of way. So I was in the group, one third

1405
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 9: member of BDP. We did a show.

1406
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 1: I made a third of the show.

1407
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 9: I left the group because Scott wanted to pretty much

1408
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 9: be my dad and I didn't grow up with a father.

1409
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 9: I didn't grow with my parents, So anyone trying to

1410
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 9: have like that parental role to me was an enemy,

1411
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 9: like I didn't want that. I didn't want you telling

1412
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 9: me what to do and thinking looking back at it

1413
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 9: as an adult now and as a father, man, this

1414
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 9: dude changed my life. All he wanted to do was

1415
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 9: make sure that I went to school. That's the only

1416
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 9: reason why I'm not on a Criminal Minded album cover

1417
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 9: was I didn't want to go to school and Scott

1418
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 9: said to me, if you don't go to school, then

1419
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 9: you can't be in the group. And I said, fuck

1420
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:19,560
Speaker 9: this group. I'm going to go sell drugs in the

1421
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 9: street and I'm going to be good. So that's the

1422
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 9: reason why I wasn't on the BDP first album album cover,

1423
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 9: like the Criminal Minded album cover.

1424
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:28,640
Speaker 8: It's crazy because I was going to ask what is

1425
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 8: a fifteen year old doing touring the world or touring

1426
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 8: the country with grown ass men, Like where were your parents?

1427
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 1: Now? There were no parents.

1428
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 9: I lived, slept on the floor and slept in the

1429
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:41,799
Speaker 9: living room on one sofa and my my great grandmother

1430
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 9: was on the other sofa and my cousin. It was

1431
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 9: my cousin's apartment. So from the time I was like

1432
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 9: thirteen until my till sixteen, sixteen and a half when

1433
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 9: I got my first apartment, well, seventeen when I got

1434
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 9: my first apartment.

1435
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,600
Speaker 1: I you know, that was what my life was.

1436
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:01,599
Speaker 8: So how do you attribute being because just by optics sake,

1437
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 8: you look like to be a very involved father. You

1438
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 8: have two girls, right, how do you how do you

1439
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 8: think you became such a great father. You didn't really

1440
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 8: have to be the.

1441
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 1: Best parent that I didn't have.

1442
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 9: You know, like I wanted my kids and still want

1443
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 9: my kids to be better than I am, and I

1444
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:23,680
Speaker 9: want them to be great, and my kids inspire me,

1445
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:26,799
Speaker 9: you know, And it was I know, it's directly related

1446
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 9: to the way I grew up.

1447
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 1: You know, I grew up. My dad growing up was

1448
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 1: Bill Cosby in my mind.

1449
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, the Huxtables, Like seeing that was like I wanted

1450
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 9: that for my kids. I wanted my kids to have

1451
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 9: that experience. And I used to wear those ugly ass

1452
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 9: sweaters all the time. You look at self Destruction video,

1453
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 9: So even though you have Cosby sweaters, I had them.

1454
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,639
Speaker 1: Joints, Bro, did you produce that self Destruction? Yes?

1455
01:17:57,840 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 9: I was eighteen when I produced Self Destruct?

1456
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 4: Okay, how many twelve hundreds did you use? Because the

1457
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 4: beat switches every verse. So did you just use punch

1458
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 4: the sample in oh?

1459
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 9: No, I used a Poobla song, remember that.

1460
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 3: No.

1461
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:16,640
Speaker 9: So the Poobla song was a rack mount sampler that

1462
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 9: would just loop whatever you had, It would loop it.

1463
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 1: That was your weapon of choice. That was choice.

1464
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 9: So yeah, so I used that in a SB twelve hundred. Okay,

1465
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 9: so I'm sorry SB twelve not even twelve hundred. I

1466
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 9: used the twelve you were still using in the twelve

1467
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:31,560
Speaker 9: and eighty. I was using the twelve and then the

1468
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 9: first time, the very first beat that I made with

1469
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 9: the twelve hundred. I remember this because I keenan ivory

1470
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 9: Wayams came to us and said told Chris that he

1471
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 9: wanted to use BDP on I'm going to get you

1472
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 9: suck a project. And we were in we were in

1473
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 9: Where's Where's Ali From?

1474
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm drunk, Shi Ali? Where's Ali from? Ali? Mohammad Muhammad? Kentucky.

1475
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,879
Speaker 1: We were in Kentucky, Louisville. Right, We're in Louisville.

1476
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 9: And I jumped on the plane to go back to

1477
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 9: New York to go back to sam Ash, bought the

1478
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 9: s P twelve hundred, flew back on the.

1479
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 1: Road, and we were on tour with like I personally

1480
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 1: to get the well, yeah, we.

1481
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 9: Didn't have I didn't know anything about FedEx and all

1482
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 9: that I went to get this. I stayed at this hotel.

1483
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 9: Never forget this. God damn, I can't tell you everything

1484
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 9: because because I remember staying at this particular hotel with

1485
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 9: someone's future wife.

1486
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 1: But three, so we won't go there. We won't go there. Anyway.

1487
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 9: I remember back this twelve hundred and then going back

1488
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 9: on the road, and the first beat that I did

1489
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 9: on that SB twelve hundred was from a sample that

1490
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 9: I bought while I was in London, and it was

1491
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 9: the Greedy G sample, and we used to we use

1492
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 9: that sample and I put the sample the drums, you

1493
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:58,600
Speaker 9: know the drums last night chan Phillip, Yes, yep, with

1494
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 9: with the Greedy G. And that was our show intro

1495
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:03,640
Speaker 9: from that moment on. And then that ended up being

1496
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:07,719
Speaker 9: a song that we did for The Jack of Spades.

1497
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 9: So I'm gonna get you sucking.

1498
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 4: By the time you got to the bio means necessary,

1499
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 4: what was the digging process, like, like you produced my philosophy.

1500
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 9: My philosophy, So I want to be clear about this.

1501
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:24,440
Speaker 9: I don't even want to say that I produced my philosophy.

1502
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 9: That beat is definitely my beat.

1503
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 1: Who found the samples?

1504
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 9: That's all me? There you go, Yeah, that was all me.

1505
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 9: I used to go to a spot called Downtown Records

1506
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:35,640
Speaker 9: in New York City, and I would go to the

1507
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 9: House of Oldies, and that's where I bought. Pretty much

1508
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 9: every record that I ever used to sample was between

1509
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 9: those two places. And I remember being in downstairs and

1510
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 9: it was always Big Doddy Kane. Biz was there. Biz

1511
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 9: was there all the time. So if you found like

1512
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 9: a sample, if you had a little bit of money,

1513
01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:59,640
Speaker 9: you would buy every one of those records there. So

1514
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 9: that because Biz would buy the records. So that's the

1515
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 9: only reason why call me d nice isn't call me

1516
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 9: Biz Marquee seriously, because I was smart enough when I

1517
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 9: found that sample. It was a compilation with the Turtles

1518
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 9: with Flowing Eddie on that compilation, and like Daylight had

1519
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 9: a beat off of that joint. When I found that,

1520
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 9: we also did so Steady b Yeah.

1521
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:26,839
Speaker 1: Records.

1522
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 9: So that's that's I found that I looped at Chris

1523
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 9: there was produced by Karras right. But I'm telling you

1524
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 9: right now that I found.

1525
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 1: That all them four joints off the album. Yes.

1526
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 9: So with that album no, it was the Battle of

1527
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 9: the Band's album I know.

1528
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. So with that album I found those I had.

1529
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 9: I sampled all of that stuff and call Me d Nice,

1530
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 9: which was crazy to me, call me the lyrics for

1531
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 9: call Me D Nice let's I'm gonna put it out

1532
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 9: there right now. Half of the first verse was written

1533
01:21:56,400 --> 01:22:00,080
Speaker 9: by Krras. It was the song Chris had written for

1534
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 9: me when I was like sixteen, and then I wrote

1535
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 9: the rest of it. But I did it on like

1536
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 9: an old Bee Boy Records album Old b Boy compilation. Yeah,

1537
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 9: and it was like super fast. I wanted everything fast,

1538
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 9: everything wanted Every record I sampled had to be like

1539
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 9: one hundred and twenty beats per minute.

1540
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 1: I needed trying to get that house that house.

1541
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 9: Even after I recorded the vocals, I had them speed

1542
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 9: up the tape, like make it faster.

1543
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 1: It needs to be faster. It was just bad anyway.

1544
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 9: So those records I was sampled of records and sent

1545
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 9: it to Chris, or not even send it, bring it

1546
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 9: to Chris on the tape. And at the time I

1547
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:43,679
Speaker 9: brought him, I brought him the beat for I'm Still

1548
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 9: Number One for my philosophy and the beat for call

1549
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 9: Me D Nice. And he heard the beat for call

1550
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 9: Me D Nice and he said, nah, I don't like that.

1551
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 9: What and then he took I'm still number one. I

1552
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 9: had it faster because you know the sampo, he slowed

1553
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 9: it down. I will give him that he slowed it down.

1554
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 9: He was like, no, this is it, which ended up

1555
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 9: being I mean, this is an incredible record, you know,

1556
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 9: call Me D Nice. The only reason why I did

1557
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 9: that record was because after I did the beat and

1558
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 9: I played it for Chris, he didn't want it. The

1559
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 9: second person that I played the record for was Kid Rock.

1560
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I'm going to say you discovered him.

1561
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 9: Yes, I mean he was already doing this thing, but

1562
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 9: he was like an opening act of one of our

1563
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:30,600
Speaker 9: shows and.

1564
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 1: Been in BDP, could have been in BDP with US America.

1565
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 1: Great again, it's crazy. I have Kid Rock stories too.

1566
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 9: But anyway, so I played it for him and I

1567
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 9: did call Me D Nice the lyrics to the beat

1568
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 9: because I wanted him to know how he could rhyme

1569
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 9: on it. So and and that's the only reason why

1570
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 9: I have like two versions of the song was because

1571
01:23:58,080 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 9: I did it for him. I was like, no, you

1572
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 9: can do it like this, and then when I listened

1573
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 9: back to it was like, wait, this is actually pretty

1574
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 9: fucking dope and yeah, man, and ended up putting that

1575
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 9: out as my first single.

1576
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 4: Wow, so that was your first album? So how did

1577
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 4: when did you officially leave BDP? The time from you

1578
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,599
Speaker 4: when you left to putting out your first solo record.

1579
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 9: So I don't think that I ever actually left BDP.

1580
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 9: I think car Rest just had my music turned down

1581
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:30,600
Speaker 9: extremely low at one show and I was like, I

1582
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 9: guess I'm not in the group anymore.

1583
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 1: We were.

1584
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 9: We did a show at the Palladium in LA and

1585
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 9: that was the moment that I realized, like some things

1586
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 9: were going on. But the moment that I realized I

1587
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 9: wasn't in the group was his Sex and Violence album,

1588
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 9: And it's because credit credits these people are not down

1589
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 9: with us, and that's that was the moment that I

1590
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 9: realized that I'm no longer with the group. And honestly,

1591
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 9: I didn't do anything that would warrant that kind of

1592
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 9: like treatment, Like it wasn't like we were beef and

1593
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 9: yeah it was because I was never a yes man.

1594
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 9: So half of the songs on like not that I

1595
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 9: you know, I don't personally think that I made a

1596
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 9: classic album as D Nice because I was a little

1597
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 9: confused with who I was at the time. I was,

1598
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 9: you know, eighteen nineteen years old. All I wanted was women.

1599
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 9: I wanted some ass like so my records reflected that

1600
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 9: my name is D Nice. I wanted them to know

1601
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 9: who I was. Chris was so prolific with his music

1602
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 9: and with his lyrics.

1603
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 1: And fucking motherfucker's up and.

1604
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:32,720
Speaker 9: Fucking motherfucker's up, you know, And basically Chris got a reputation. Yeah,

1605
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 9: Chris has a reputation even in music of being a

1606
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,600
Speaker 9: little disrespectful, but a lot of you know, oh p

1607
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 9: out but yeah, so but with Chris, with that moment,

1608
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 9: I you know, like I said, man, I didn't realize

1609
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 9: that I wasn't in the group until those records and

1610
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 9: till the Sex and Vonus album because I I'd done

1611
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 9: all of these records for BDP, Which is so crazy

1612
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 9: because in that moment, the only reason why I put

1613
01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 9: out my own record because I was on Jibe. My

1614
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 9: deal was for twenty five thousand dollars to make an album,

1615
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 9: and at the same time, Tribe signed for like a

1616
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 9: half a quarter of a million at the time, I believe,

1617
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 9: so they really never believed in me. And it's crazy

1618
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 9: because Barry Whites is still like one of my friends

1619
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 9: now and I see him and I get it. I

1620
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 9: get what it is you want it cares, so I

1621
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 9: respect that. But we were never like I never had

1622
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:25,560
Speaker 9: one of those deals or people to actually believe in me.

1623
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:27,599
Speaker 9: So even with call Me d Nice, I put call

1624
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:30,599
Speaker 9: Me d Nice out myself. I went to the record,

1625
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 9: I went to Red Alert and had an acetate and

1626
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 9: asked him to play it and read played it for

1627
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:38,560
Speaker 9: Vinnie Brown, who's the program director, And that's how that

1628
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:40,560
Speaker 9: record came out four or five months later. It was

1629
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 9: because I was just aggressive, like I just believed in it,

1630
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 9: you know. And you know, so I never really had

1631
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 9: those situations where people like really believed, you know, had

1632
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:51,679
Speaker 9: to like force every situation.

1633
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:55,599
Speaker 4: When your next record, when you did to the Rescue,

1634
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 4: how was was it a little better there? And why

1635
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:02,720
Speaker 4: said that video with twenty five Life was so right drastic?

1636
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 4: That was a drastic ass video.

1637
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 9: So twenty five the Life, I mean, even though I

1638
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 9: loved the song, shouldn't have been my first single off

1639
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:14,040
Speaker 9: of the second album, coming off of what I was

1640
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:16,679
Speaker 9: doing in terms of like calling when I and Crumbling Table,

1641
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 9: it was different. The problem was was record companies, you know,

1642
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 9: like in People. That was like the first song that

1643
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 9: I did in the studio, and that song wasn't even

1644
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 9: supposed to be a single. It was a song that

1645
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 9: I did because one of my closest friends at the

1646
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 9: time was in He was doing twenty five to Life

1647
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:36,719
Speaker 9: and he was the dude that when I was sixteen,

1648
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 9: he was a hustler dude took me to DC. I

1649
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 9: was hustling with him in DC and Paradise projects, like

1650
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:45,600
Speaker 9: I've seen all of this craziness by the time I

1651
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 9: was like sixteen and seventeen years old. And the song

1652
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 9: was really written about him as my way of saying

1653
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 9: like not even saying thank you, because it wasn't a

1654
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 9: thank you record. It was just like a story of

1655
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:59,280
Speaker 9: like what he went through and you know, and when

1656
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:02,639
Speaker 9: I did the record, Jive immediately wanted to put it out,

1657
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:07,639
Speaker 9: so it wasn't shot that video. Darnelle Martin. She ended

1658
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 9: up being like she directed a couple of movies with

1659
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 9: like the Mary J. Blige movie on BT.

1660
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 1: She did all that. She was like an n y

1661
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 1: U student. Oh, I thought you meant there was a

1662
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 1: Mary J. Blige movie of the Week like her wife.

1663
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 8: No.

1664
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 9: No, the movie was like Mary and Q Tip Prison.

1665
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 9: She directed that, so she directed all of my videos.

1666
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:28,719
Speaker 1: Wow.

1667
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, I always thought that was an odd

1668
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 4: choice for a sing I mean, I thought it was dope,

1669
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 4: but it was, yeah, because I was.

1670
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 1: Like, well, it was one verse. It was just one

1671
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 1: verse in the hook, it was one long verse.

1672
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 4: That video was one of the videos where like, you know,

1673
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 4: where my dad just happened to be in the room

1674
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,639
Speaker 4: and then the gunshod thing happened and he just looked

1675
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 4: at me like he was always coming to choice moments

1676
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 4: where like I'm like, dad, hip hop's an R for him,

1677
01:28:59,880 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 4: you know, and you just look alike.

1678
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 9: And then the twenty five of the Life video. It's

1679
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 9: so crazy because that was like my first number one

1680
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 9: MTV video. I think that was actually my only number

1681
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 9: one MTV the only one. I was like, it's not

1682
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 9: even it wasn't even supposed to be a single.

1683
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 8: Nor.

1684
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 9: The first person that Too Short did a song with

1685
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 9: on the East Coast was me on that record. That

1686
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 9: second album was a song called check Yourself. Short and

1687
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:23,720
Speaker 9: Now we're on tour, and we were both signed a

1688
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 9: JIB and Jive had this brilliant idea of like, no,

1689
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 9: you guys should make records together. But when you think

1690
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 9: about it, no, we shouldn't have made records together. That

1691
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 9: that's not who my audience was. My audience was people.

1692
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 9: Not no disrespect to shorts audience, because Short is an

1693
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 9: amazing man. But at the time, coming from BDP, people

1694
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 9: probably expected a little bit more than what I actually

1695
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 9: gave them. But I was I was a fucking kid.

1696
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 9: I made records that kids would listen to. I was

1697
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:51,639
Speaker 9: talking about chicks. I wanted to be hot in the streets.

1698
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 1: You know.

1699
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:54,599
Speaker 9: I was a dude that was selling drugs in DC

1700
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:56,760
Speaker 9: and came back to New York and I wanted to

1701
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 9: be respected by these dudes. So I made those records

1702
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 9: where karas at the time, excuse me a little hiccup

1703
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 9: because I'm drinking this rock quest love juice, Jesus juice

1704
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:06,720
Speaker 9: I'm having over here.

1705
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 4: But before I forget real quick because we gotta wind

1706
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 4: it up, you're definitely coming on because we didn't need

1707
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:18,680
Speaker 4: to get to talk about the White House. No, the

1708
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 4: second part of your life. No, No, I'm purposely leaving

1709
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 4: the other half of your life out just so you

1710
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 4: have because you're coming back, going to.

1711
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:31,680
Speaker 1: Be the signs of Burnhard, of Quest, Love Supreme, just frequently.

1712
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 8: Tape on record.

1713
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 9: You're coming back, right, are you kidding? I'm trying to

1714
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,719
Speaker 9: sit in on every interview round stories.

1715
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:42,640
Speaker 4: Yo, how did you convince Soul Train to let you

1716
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 4: perform call Me d Nice live? Because I never knew

1717
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 4: that was the your performance of that. When we finally

1718
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:54,719
Speaker 4: went on Soul Train, I was like, Yo, we're gonna

1719
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:56,720
Speaker 4: do the same thing De Nice did. We'll make up

1720
01:30:56,760 --> 01:31:00,160
Speaker 4: a trap as if it were live, and then well

1721
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 4: lip sing it, but it'll look live when it's on,

1722
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:05,800
Speaker 4: you know, on television. But we got that from watching you.

1723
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:09,240
Speaker 4: So why didn't you just do the typical lip singing

1724
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 4: to your version?

1725
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:13,719
Speaker 9: Like so no one had done that at that point.

1726
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:17,600
Speaker 9: And when when I had the invitation to perform a

1727
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 9: Soul Train, I thought all these years I thought it

1728
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 9: was live, you know, I thought everyone was doing it live,

1729
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:25,679
Speaker 9: and some of them were, some of them.

1730
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:28,439
Speaker 4: Were, but really I didn't even know that special you know,

1731
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 4: Barry White, Yeah, special people got the treatment, but it

1732
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 4: was costly for Don at the time to do it back,

1733
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:36,799
Speaker 4: you know, gear.

1734
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Speaker 1: And all that stuff. So for the most part, it

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Speaker 1: was lipstick.

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Speaker 9: Well when I when I performed well the night before

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01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 9: or the day before, I couldn't believe that you couldn't

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01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 9: do that, you couldn't perform live. I was like, this

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01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 9: is insane. What are you talking about? I want to

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01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:53,679
Speaker 9: perform this record. So I booked the studio session.

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01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 1: I went in.

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Speaker 9: It was me my buddy Tony Rassan, who lived at

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01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 9: the shelter at the time and at Franklin, but he

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01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 9: ended up becoming like my partner in in my management company.

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01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 9: We went in the studio and I just did it

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01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 9: live like I wanted to do. I want to feel

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01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:09,720
Speaker 9: the way I performed.

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01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:12,599
Speaker 1: It was great. We did it. We did the whole

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01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:16,600
Speaker 1: go do you dice go? Do you ice? Wait? That

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01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 1: was you guys.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Oh damn man, I was because I was gonna say, yo,

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01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 4: you you that was the most hype I've ever seen

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01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 4: the audience, like.

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01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 1: Yo, dude wait.

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Speaker 9: So we did all of that the studio with the

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01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:31,760
Speaker 9: next day, gave him the track. I was performing it

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01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 9: and I was performing it like it was live. Yes,

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01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:39,040
Speaker 9: and duncan nels. He was like wait, wait, wait, stop, stop,

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01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 9: stop stop his mic is live. What's going on? He

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01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:46,400
Speaker 9: literally stopped us and I fell out laughing, like no, dude,

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01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:49,639
Speaker 9: like we did this last night, and he said, young Blood,

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01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 9: that's a good one.

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01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 1: Oh man, man, that was great. Though, that's great. I

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01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 1: was in the trench right time to No you didn't

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01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:02,560
Speaker 1: yet they KG produced it.

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01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:05,720
Speaker 9: KG produced Time to Flow, and then I wrote my

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01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:07,800
Speaker 9: own verse, which was actually a mistake. Though, man, I

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01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 9: you know what, man, Trench was on fire at the time.

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01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 9: I love that you asked me this. By the way,

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01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 9: Trench was on extremely on fire, and we'd been friends

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01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:20,600
Speaker 9: even before opp any of those records came out and

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01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 9: I watched I was fascinated by Tretch like I thought

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01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:28,679
Speaker 9: Trench was. I watched Trench battle Jay z to where

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01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:30,880
Speaker 9: Jay got frustrated and threw the mic down and walked

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01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 9: up the stage. I'm not even lying to you. I've

1776
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 9: seen all of this and Trench was like an MC

1777
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:38,040
Speaker 9: god to me. So when we had a chance to

1778
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:40,960
Speaker 9: do that was like my first feature ever outside of KRST.

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01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:42,880
Speaker 9: That was the first time I ever performed with another artist,

1780
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 9: but we happened to be real friends with me shot

1781
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:49,519
Speaker 9: Kim while Tifa like they were my family, you know.

1782
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 9: I was a part of Flavor Unit and work with

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01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:54,720
Speaker 9: shot like and work with Dana and Nick. So doing

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01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:57,000
Speaker 9: a record with Trench was great. The problem that I

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01:33:57,160 --> 01:34:01,519
Speaker 9: had was is that I would so fascinated and amory

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01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 9: by like my relationship with Trench that I almost wanted

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01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:07,599
Speaker 9: to be that dude. And I didn't rhyme. I didn't

1788
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 9: rhyme like myself. I wasn't mean That's what made me

1789
01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 9: ask it.

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01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I found it. I was.

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01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:14,640
Speaker 9: I wanted to rhyme like Tretch. I wanted to be

1792
01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 9: like that was top level to me, and I wanted

1793
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 9: to be on his level instead of just being who

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01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 9: I am. So there are some some mistakes that I had, man,

1795
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 9: that I actually I don't even wish I could change it,

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01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:27,200
Speaker 9: because I wouldn't be where I'm right now had anything

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01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:27,719
Speaker 9: been different.

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01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 4: Well, for the record, I always liked you. I always

1799
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:32,639
Speaker 4: thought you were underrated as an MC and you you're

1800
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 4: always liked. Your delivery was always really clean, like your

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01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 4: Birse on self destruction times. Yeah, like it was still Yeah, man,

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01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 4: I always always thought you.

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01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 1: Were my mom.

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01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 9: Liked the sweater and the self destruction. So aj Lester

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01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 9: one hundred and twenty fifth Street back in the day.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 4: We think you for coming from the show. We're definitely

1808
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 4: going to have you back. Yeah, we gotta talk about

1809
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 4: the rebirth.

1810
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:57,799
Speaker 1: Everything and stories.

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01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:01,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, but thank you man. I appreciate it all right, man,

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01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:05,519
Speaker 4: give it up for a great nice Uh just want

1813
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:08,639
Speaker 4: to let you guys know. You know, we rarely push

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01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:12,320
Speaker 4: our our social media, but you can follow Quest Love

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01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:16,559
Speaker 4: Supreme at QLs. That's our Instagram and our Twitter at

1816
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 4: ql plus and when you go on Facebook, Quest Love

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Speaker 4: Supreme and you can email us. There's something new for

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01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:25,640
Speaker 4: twenty eighteen. Yes, yes, you can email us with with

1819
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 4: questions and comments and criticisms all right.

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Speaker 8: And roll call help.

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Speaker 4: Can't wait for that anyway, we're gonna find We're also

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01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 4: gonna find love for Laya by February.

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Speaker 1: o X set out mail box.

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Speaker 4: Mail out there mailbox at Questlove Supreme dot com.

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Speaker 1: The way you guys got that all right, So you

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01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 1: can send all your hate to many mail box. So

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Speaker 1: that said on the Quest Love Supremes.

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Speaker 4: Froon Tickeelo Unpaid and Boss Bill Sugar Steve, It's Layah

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Speaker 4: and our guests d Nice.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, our return guest d Nice. We'll be back. Uh,

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Speaker 1: We'll see you in the next go around. Quests Love

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