1 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: Good evenings, sweet world, and welcome to the Not Dungs 2 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Saturday, December fourteenth, twenty 3 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: twenty four. I'm Jay Skeets here from the twenty seventh 4 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: floor of an undisclosed hotel room in Las Vegas. And 5 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: alongside me as always tasas podcast. This is for company 6 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: in these seats, and next to him it's the bearded 7 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: Atasha Hopboy Trick Kurbie. Yeah hey, and of course floating 8 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 1: behind the camera making this magic happen. Jd Oh, Yeah, 9 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: I get a shot yourself. Hello, hey, there he is floating. 10 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: We are here in Vegas. Early flight this morning from Atlanta. 11 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: Got here in time for the two games, the semi 12 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: finals of the NBA Cup. One very entertaining one a 13 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: little more boring. 14 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: I can't decide. Is it just because we took in 15 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 2: two sports games that we found the second one boring? 16 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: No rockets Thunder was a slog yeah, no matter if 17 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: you were live or it was your second game or whatever, 18 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: because that was that was rough game. Let's start. Let's 19 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: start with the entertaining one, the better one. Let's start 20 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: with Gianness scoring thirty two points an assist, away from 21 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: a triple double Damian Lillard out of twenty five, Bucks 22 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: beat the Hawks sad Kaka. 23 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 3: A lot of Hawks fans in the house, more Hawks 24 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 3: fans than Bucks fans. 25 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Maybe part of that was the Falcons playing 26 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: here on Monday night against the Raiders. But Bucks win 27 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: one ten one two to earn a spot in the 28 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: NBA Cup Championship game. It was the entertaining game of 29 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: the two. Maybe it was because we had better seats, 30 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: small part of it. 31 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: That was cool. 32 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 3: The game was better, The game. 33 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: Was better, and teams were making shots. 34 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we didn't have a million reviews. Yeah, it 35 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 3: was a fun game. 36 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, awesome. 37 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: The superstars showed up. 38 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 4: Jannis had an awesome game, Trey Young had an awesome game. 39 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 4: Damian Willard had a pretty good game. If Jalen Johnson 40 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 4: plays a little bit better. Maybe we were talking about 41 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 4: the Hawks in the Cup final. But Giannis was the 42 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 4: man out there, almost a triple double, like you said, 43 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 4: and it felt like he just got to the free 44 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 4: throw line. Anytime the Bucks were struggling to score, he 45 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 4: would get the ball at about the three point line. 46 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 4: On a fast break, he would see Capella, he would 47 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 4: hit him with a little bit of a heavy and 48 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 4: then he would go right lower. 49 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: His shoulder, get the foul, go to the line. Hawks 50 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 3: fans counting him down. 51 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 4: What dude, three, five, six, They were getting to fourteen, 52 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 4: counting two fast. 53 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 3: But it felt like we were back in Atlanta. Nice 54 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 3: win for the back. 55 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, this is the funny part to me. It 56 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: was the more entertaining game. But we had Trey Young 57 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: fourteen to seventeen at the free throw line. Yannis, like 58 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: you said, twelve of eighteen at the free throw line. 59 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: So it was a parade to the line for the Superstars. 60 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 1: But there was more juice to this game. It was 61 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: obviously closer down the stretch as well because we we 62 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: had the huge The highlight of the day was Giannis 63 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: blocking the Capella when it was like a five point 64 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: game with like two and a half to go. 65 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't think that has anything to do 66 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 2: with us being a mere feet away from it. We 67 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 2: were second row behind the hoop to watch a Yannis 68 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: said to Coombo, come and recover and block an alue. 69 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: That was awesome. And I just I think just the 70 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: fourth quarter of Giannis, he got on the floor, he 71 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 2: dove on the floor, and then on an offensive possession 72 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 2: where Middleton knocked the ball off himself. Jani's got mad. 73 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: He said, Milton, what's up? 74 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: Middleton was ruggedly. 75 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I loved it was them being open about things. 76 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: This is what we gotta do, dude. And then the 77 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: next question he comes back down the floor and he 78 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: has to recover and block it like it's the Phoenix 79 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: Sun's Finals game where he came out of nowhere, and 80 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: at first we thought maybe Janie and Brooke, Yeah, but 81 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: it was all Yannest to be able to get back 82 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: and recover. He just really wanted to win this freaking game. 83 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: He wanted an NBA Cup win. And last year he 84 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: was here, it didn't happen right, right, And this year, 85 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: the thirty old Jannis just had his birthday. Man, that 86 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: was impressive. 87 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: No one has talked about you. 88 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 3: Classic birthday. 89 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 4: I was glad as he could still drag his body 90 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 4: on the ground at the old age of thirty. 91 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: That an old guy. We're gonna see him in the 92 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 2: old age area of the blackjack tables and the casinos. 93 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 2: Fremont Street, Yeah, a very old area the Fremont Street there. 94 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: It was weird for him because last year he was 95 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 2: here for his birthday. You got to celebrate this year. 96 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, I want to talk about birthday. 97 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: No one has ever talked about his birthday. 98 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: Dates changed from the in season term into the NBA 99 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 2: Cup from year one to year two. So he turned 100 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: twenty nine here, but he was already turned thirty eight. 101 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. 102 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: But he was awesome. 103 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: Actually, I think the biggest fan out here was FANASI 104 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 2: said to the CUPO. 105 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: He was in the front row. 106 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 2: That guy got on the floor and it was at 107 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: some point he started yelling, and I think Trey said, 108 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: what's up, dude? They had they exchanged something because there 109 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: But anyways, those two guys really wanted to win. 110 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: Do you think the Nastis pays for that ticket or 111 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: is that an honest comp or a Bucks comp? I 112 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: wonder how that works. Great seats better than ours. 113 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got copped. You don't think that. 114 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: I said, it's a good point. It's a good play. 115 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: Good play. 116 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: Anyways, it was great because for the first time both 117 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 2: both of those guys in an NBA Cup game, like 118 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: Trey and Giannis like, we're desperate to win this game. 119 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: Well, I guess, I mean that's a big, you know 120 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: picture question like does the cup work? Like did the 121 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: teams respect the cup? Which has been our ongoing bit 122 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: here for a couple of days. Now you know the 123 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: idea of respecting the cup. Do you believe all four 124 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: did trey today from like effort wise? 125 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: Effort wise? 126 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, I think so. 127 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 4: Execution wise, the Rockets did not respect to bring in 128 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 4: that kind of shooting to Las Vegas. Disrespectful, disrespectful, lethal shooter. 129 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 4: They're gonna be sharing the same court as lethal shooter. 130 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 4: Maybe he could tootter the Rockets on how to actually 131 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 4: make a shot. That was disgusting, Skeets. I hate that 132 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 4: we have to record a podcast after watching that. 133 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you were getting up set. 134 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 4: Well, the game was over. It was ten point fifty two. 135 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 4: The Rockets went out by eleven, I said, or the 136 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 4: thunder went out by eleven. I said, this game's over. 137 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 3: He said, no, watch, they'll make a little run. 138 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: Well he did. 139 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, they got it down to five, and then Shaye 140 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 4: checked in and they lost by what sixteen? 141 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: Yes, it was over. 142 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 4: When I told you I had my white belt on 143 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 4: Dave grishon Rod the Rockets couldn't score. 144 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 3: That was what I was exciting about the first game. 145 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 4: Neither team could score for a while in Buckshawks, but 146 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 4: then they both kind of turned it on. The Hawks 147 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 4: actually had a lead coming into the fourth quarter. Unfortunately 148 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 4: for them, they finally went cold in like the last 149 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 4: two minutes. I think they scored two points on and 150 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 4: Trey Young driving to the hoop and they kind of 151 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,119 Speaker 4: just like were playing the takeaway the three pointer. 152 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 3: He got a layup. 153 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 4: But Trey had a nice look from deep shots he 154 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 4: makes but also shots that are definitely risky. Jalen Johnson 155 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 4: had a wide open look from the corner that didn't 156 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 4: go down. Yeah, the Bucks just executed down the stretch 157 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 4: a little bit better, and they were the best executing 158 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 4: team we saw today. 159 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: Again, it is funny the Bucks score was one ten, 160 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: one oh two, and then the second game that we 161 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: just got back from was okay, see one eleven to 162 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: ninety six. Yeah, so it's pretty It is pretty similar 163 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: in terms of offensive output, but they felt like two 164 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: completely different games. 165 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and to see Shade get to thirty points, didn't 166 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: feel like he had a good game. 167 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: Oh he had a Marble game. 168 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: It was not Shade. 169 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: Well, he had the crowd like ooing and aweing through 170 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: the first like five or six minutes of a game. 171 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: On every play he did because he was like, you know, 172 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: pivoting left the right, dropping guy sort of here, but 173 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: he just couldn't finish. You could see him getting visibly frustrated. 174 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: He was so mad. Yeah yeah, but. 175 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: Then he still gets to thirty like he said, y yeah. 176 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: Because he was shaking guys, and the crowd was loving it. 177 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: They were enjoying it. They were saying, is this Penn 178 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: and Teller? What is this show going on in front 179 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: of me? It looked it looked like there's people falling 180 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: in front of Shae Gilders Alexander as he did his 181 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: moves and then he just didn't have the That was 182 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: so strange. But no one had to touch for so long. 183 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 4: A sidelines neutral court. 184 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: It happens every final four. 185 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 4: The teams get there, nobody can shoot, and everybody blames 186 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 4: it on a neutral court. 187 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: Well, that one almost makes more sense because they usually 188 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: are playing in like giant football stadiums and it is 189 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: a little different. This is, of course normal small stadium. 190 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: But you know, you bring up a good question. It's like, 191 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: why is this in Vegas? Like in all honesty, why 192 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: is it here? It's fun, it's fun to come to Vegas. 193 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: Like think about it's exciting for the guys that are playing. 194 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: But we're watching the game and we're looking at the 195 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: staffs that travel with the team. There's another seventy five 196 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: people that come with every NBA team. 197 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome for them to get to spend five days. 198 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I guess, like but from I don't know 199 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: how it looked on television, but like production standpoint, there's 200 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: almost no way you could have told us being in 201 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: the arena for both these games that we were in Vegas. Like, 202 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: they didn't lean. They don't lean into the to the 203 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: Vegas vibe. 204 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 4: They probably don't want to go heavy on the gambling. Yes, things, 205 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 4: even though if it were daily fantasy, we would be 206 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 4: seeing ads for it every fine scenes, but they could 207 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 4: have done more Showgirls sort of entertainment stuff, or weird 208 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 4: magic shows or Elvis impersonators literally anything they do. The 209 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 4: walk in the red carpet, I suppose that's a little 210 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 4: bit Vegas ritzy. At least they try and give you 211 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 4: a gold court. It looks khaki, you know. I think 212 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 4: they could go over the top. But if that's the case. 213 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 4: People are like, why does this court look so weird? 214 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: And then they did one like sort of in arena 215 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: entertainment game called Stack the Chips, which was a shooting game. Yeah, 216 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: it was the only like gambling. 217 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 3: People at home don't see that. No, it didn't scream 218 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 3: Vegas to me like this. 219 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 4: It wouldn't have been any different if they were playing 220 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 4: this game in Philadelphia. 221 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: But it fills out a stadium fans that are excited 222 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: just to go watch basketball. We saw fans from yes, 223 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 2: all sort of different fan bases that were in an 224 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: arena and they're pumped. I mean it worked in comparison 225 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: to the last year when the semifinals were on a Thursday. 226 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: Was it a Tuesday? 227 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 4: I would have to know when's birthday is. 228 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: It was December. 229 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: It was midweek. 230 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, compared to the Saturday that they had it on here. 231 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: This was smarter, It was filmed, there was people were 232 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: excited just like you know, I said Pennabler earlier. It 233 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 2: was an event in Las Vegas that people got here 234 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 2: and we're excited more so the first game versus the second. 235 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: People showing up in Vegas still pumped to go to Peninhilla. 236 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. 237 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: I was like blown away by how into the crowd 238 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: was that first game. I was, I was like, this 239 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: is a It was starting at one thirty local times. Yeah, 240 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: and I couldn't believe how many Hawks were there and 241 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: how vocal the crowd was. And it was like that 242 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: good like sort of like you know, there's a contingent 243 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: of Bucks fans as well. You're in the arena where 244 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, you're like both teams score and there's 245 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: like that sort of uproar. So that was cool. I 246 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: thought the thunder Rockets one was a little less flat. 247 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: Maybe that was had to do with the game, but 248 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: I feel like the fan base was flat. 249 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: Flat's a good word, because the shots were flat. Yes, 250 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: that was a problem. Yeah. 251 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 4: I thought it was hard to tell who there was 252 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 4: more fans of until at the end when who was it? 253 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 4: There were beef and shengoon walls. There was a big 254 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 4: Okay Sea chant, you know. Yeah, so I was like 255 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 4: that must mean there's more Okay See people. 256 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but we barely heard them from the first 257 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: forty six minutes because the shots weren't right. They weren't right. 258 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: Do you have any more thoughts on Bucks Hawks before 259 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: we maybe get a little bit more. 260 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 2: And well, that Bucks and Hawks played ten days ago, 261 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 2: and I watched those as opposed to being in a 262 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 2: stadium here, I watched it from my seat in my house, 263 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: and you could tell the Hawks were a fit, aster, 264 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: more athletic team. I mean, the numbers changed drastically in 265 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: terms of the offensive boards. In that game they had 266 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: sixteen offensive boards, down to seven in this one. They 267 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: had thirty fast breakpoints in that one they had down 268 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 2: to fifteen in this one. I mean they were after 269 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 2: it in that game, and the Bucks got back in 270 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: this one. They tried. It was fun to watch, actually 271 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: from our angle, being two rows behind, you saw it. 272 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 2: Even after a make, the Hawks pushed it. We had 273 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: a DeAndre Hunter three after a make. It was fun. 274 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: They're pushing it. But the Bucks were actually getting back. 275 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 2: They're ready, They're ready to win this freaking thing. They're 276 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: far more into it. The Bucks didn't look like an 277 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: old ass team today. 278 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: Only Doc looked old when he was hunched over on 279 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: the sideline, scrabbing and sneeze as he always does as 280 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: the game goes on. 281 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 4: It's got bad knees, got bad knee it's got bad 282 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 4: hips in a bad back, so he stands got an 283 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 4: interesting stand. Yeah, Hawks, Bucks was awesome. That was a 284 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 4: fun game. Like that's what people want to see when 285 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 4: they come to the Cup. Both teams respecting it, playing hard. 286 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 4: Both teams are giving a defensive effort and playing well 287 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 4: offensively too. 288 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: That was fun to watch. 289 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I didn't know if I liked it at 290 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 2: the time, but players are getting away with fowls and 291 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: it was fine with me then, Like even though you 292 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: said that ys had how many freaks and great, they're 293 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 2: getting away with stuff. It was. It was a physical game. 294 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: It was physical for sure. Yeah, and it was fun 295 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: at the same time. 296 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: It was hilarious being so close to the Bucks bench too, 297 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: and watching the guys that didn't play a single minute. 298 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: I'm talking to guys like Marjon Beauchamp, Chris Livingston, Tyler Smith, 299 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: Pat Connaton, who was very vocal by the way, and 300 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: up all the time. They're so pumped watching this game 301 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: because it's like, hey, if we win this, like I'm 302 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: getting what do they got another one hundred and fifty 303 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: thousand dollars or something like that just by winning that 304 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: game in advancing to the finals yep, they were into it. 305 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 3: Johnson that yes, there is that. 306 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: Weird little element of guys not even playing really invested, 307 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: let alone people three rows back like dang, I need 308 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: two more points really over and all the gambling literally 309 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: going on here in Vegas, like come on, help me out. 310 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, okay, I'll try and get you that. 311 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, super entertaining. Just last last thing, okay, on 312 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: that game, very last thing. 313 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 2: I think we saw a no pass allu from the Hawks, 314 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: which is awesome. That looks like a Vegas show. I mean, 315 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: they ball went through, they had or was a rebound, 316 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: but they had like three pass allu. I don't think 317 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: they dribbled once. It was beautiful. 318 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember a player time. 319 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 2: I'm talking about a Capella rebound out to Dyson Daniels 320 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: out to Trey out to I think it's no dribble, yes. 321 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, what was the word said? Pass? 322 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: That's an amazing thing. There were lots of passes, but 323 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: zero dribbles. That was that. But I think I don't 324 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: think we've ever seen treyon play d as Hearty did 325 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: that one possession. Chris Middleton was bodying him at the 326 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 2: three point line, was getting physical. They brought a double 327 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 2: and they passed out weak side three point shot and 328 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: Trey had to get out to dairy milk to AJ 329 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 2: Green and AJ Green he shot that three point shot 330 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 2: and Trey Young got a piece of it. I mean, 331 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 2: you don't see that. And it was great to see 332 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: AJ Green. 333 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: Milk Darry Bird. 334 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 2: Jerry Bird was because we were really close to the 335 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: bucks bench. He looks, I mean, he looks extremely fit. 336 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 2: Guy's yeah, you didn't. 337 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: Milk does a body good exactly. 338 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: That's exactly what he said. That's exactly the note I 339 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: I do. 340 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: Like our friend John John. We were telling him like 341 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: why is he called dairy bird. We're going through it, 342 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: and then he was like, then he hit a three. 343 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: He's like, got milk, milk, you should yell at it. People. 344 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 3: You were saying he should do a celebration where like 345 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: somebody milks his others. 346 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: Weird, weird. Why couldn't he just do this? 347 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: It's funnier. Heels like this and then like Chris Middleton's. 348 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: In the other so basically, so basically you're saying that 349 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: you like, for our podcast listeners, he would be the cow. 350 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 2: He would be the cow. Yeah, on the milkman providing 351 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: the milk and somebody else's milking them. Yeah, milk his thumbs. 352 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: I think that's whole celebration. Okay, okay, let's go to 353 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: the second game. Obviously we have a little bit but 354 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: shake Gilds. Alexander scored twenty of his thirty two points 355 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: in the second half. Okay, See they pulled away late 356 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: to beat the Rockets one eleven ninety six, So they 357 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: will go on to face the Bucks on Tuesday night 358 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: in the NBA Cup Championship game. Yeah, it was a 359 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: really rough start trade no, but he could score for 360 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: a big stretch of this game, and so that was 361 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: sort of the first half. And then second there was 362 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: like I don't know, there's a couple of minutes where 363 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: like some shots started to fall. But then of course 364 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: it turned into the timeout timeout review review, timeout, timeout 365 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: review game, which it needs to be fixed. 366 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 4: No flow to this game at all. The first half 367 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 4: had no flow just because nobody could score. Yeah, it 368 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 4: was forty two to forty one at halftime, and both 369 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 4: teams were shooting like thirty five percent. And under not 370 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 4: a surprise, they're both they're both defensive teams. Yeah, look, 371 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 4: the Rockets have trouble scoring period. You know, they're not 372 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 4: a great offensive team. The Thunder of the best defensive 373 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 4: team in the league, and they were making a really 374 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 4: tough Hartenstein was eating Shanghun up. Yeah, like Chinum was 375 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 4: completely out of sorts, didn't really get his touches where 376 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 4: he usually does it. But Hartenstein really dominated the paint 377 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 4: for the Thunder. In the third quarter, both teams actually scored. 378 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 3: A little bit. They were actually able to get a 379 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 3: little bit of rhythm. 380 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 4: And then, like you said, in the fourth quarter, uh okay, 381 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 4: so he got up a little bit and then it 382 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 4: was just like couldn't keep going. Like it was every 383 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 4: thirty seconds, this clock was stopping. It felt like it 384 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 4: was insanity. 385 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 386 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: Really, really, they're gonna fall asleep, like Jimmy Goldstein. Jimmy 387 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 1: Goldstein falling asleep during the broadcast. 388 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: He's he was, He was like, yeah. 389 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 3: It was slumped. Well you knew his slumping at least, Yeah, well. 390 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 2: You were just misreading the situations. 391 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: How do I make it so heavy on his head? 392 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 4: It's like he did at one point grab the ball 393 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 4: and it bounced over to the side and like yeah, 394 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 4: like a shot pass to get it back. 395 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, well this will blow your mind. Jimmy Goldstein 396 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: eighty four years old, Oscar Robertson eighty five years old, 397 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: eighty six, eighty six years old. 398 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 3: He looks it looks great. 399 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: He was twenty years younger than Jimmy Goldstein. Yeah, this 400 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: is a Jack Armstrong, Leo rout in situation, Jarry Jack 401 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 1: and Lee out where It's like, what, who's the guy now? 402 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: I don't know what. The more surprising thing was to 403 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: see legends of the game surviving both games, hanging out 404 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 2: there and watching. 405 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: Gary Payton Hamble rip Oscar Robertson, Oh yeah yeah, they go. 406 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's gotta be others. 407 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: I can't. He's eighty six though, he looks great. 408 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 2: That's incredible. Yeah. And that's why you do it in Vegas, 409 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 2: I guess because gentlemen like Oscar Robinson in his eighty 410 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: five eighty six can be up until seven pm. These games. 411 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 2: These games ended. What time is it now? These games 412 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 2: ended half an hour ago, eight thirty pm local. I 413 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 2: think these games are designed for the older gentleman. That's 414 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 2: why there's why they're here. 415 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: These games designed for Jimmy I guess was it fun 416 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: to watch two games in one day? 417 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 2: Absolutely? I would have loved to see to Read Shepherd 418 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 2: play a game. You know, Reed Shepherd hasn't played the 419 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 2: last two games for the Houston Rockets, his first two 420 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 2: miss games. I'm disappointed. I came to Vegas to see 421 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 2: Read Shepherd. 422 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,719 Speaker 1: You did call that in the preseason. There's a lot 423 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: of talk about him for Rookie the Year and you're like, I, 424 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: only he's gonna play enough. 425 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I didn't expecting to play zero minutes like 426 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 2: he played these last Yeah, that was the weird thing. 427 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 2: What emyudoko with the rotation. He played Steven Adams in 428 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: that first half a lot, and Jalen Green and Albert 429 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 2: and Sheangun just weren't used a lot. The rotation just 430 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 2: wasn't He wasn't looking to score. He looked up, he 431 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 2: thought this was a brawl. 432 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 4: He definitely favors defense, which is why Reed Shepherd doesn't 433 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 4: get a ton of minutes. But this is the kind 434 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 4: of game that maybe it would be okay to dust 435 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 4: them off just because he's a decent shooter. The Rockets 436 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 4: ended up shooting twenty four percent from three, and they 437 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 4: weren't much better inside. They finished thirty five percent for 438 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 4: the game nineteen offensive rebounds, but somehow that only turned 439 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 4: into like eighteen points for them on a second chance point. 440 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 4: So even when they're getting their own rebounds, they're not 441 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 4: able to reconvert offensively just because they looked a little 442 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 4: quite a bit smaller I thought than Oka see as well. 443 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 4: And meanwhile you got Shay who didn't have his greatest 444 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 4: game and still somehow takes his way over thirty points, 445 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 4: getting enough free throws, getting to the hoop, and enough 446 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 4: hitting threes here and there. 447 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 3: Like, even when they have bad. 448 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 4: Offensive nights, they can still be efficient enough to pull 449 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 4: off a win because they've got more talent certainly than 450 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 4: the Rockets do. Like Jalen Williams would be the best 451 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 4: scorer on the Rockets instantly, and he's the number two 452 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 4: guy yep on. 453 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: Okay, see yeah, and that's a good point about Shade 454 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: not really having a good game, still gets to thirty 455 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: two eight six, five steals, And even Jellen Williams, who 456 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: again had a little stretcher he caught fire, I wouldn't 457 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: say a great game, shot eight to twenty, but still 458 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: gets to twenty points. Still gets five boards, still gets 459 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,479 Speaker 1: five assists, They still contribute, and they still you know, 460 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: we're walking with a bit of an attitude at the 461 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: end when when Wallace got into it with shnggun and 462 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: some barking going on, and they, yeah, they were fighting 463 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: hard for this, And I feel like I like this match. 464 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: The only thing I liked about this matchup not the game. 465 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: But you could see the Thunder looking at the sorry 466 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: the Rockets looking at the Thunder going, oh, yeah, we're 467 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: that maybe in a year or two now, can they 468 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: have they don't have a shade. 469 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing. 470 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 4: A game like this makes it clear to me how 471 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 4: far behind Houston is because neither team played well. But okay, 472 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 4: see still dominated this yea. And they weren't even in 473 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 4: any danger in the second. 474 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: Half at all. 475 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: Who was the best player. 476 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 4: For the Rockets tonight exactly? I'm and Thompson probably yeah, 477 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 4: thirteen in the first half, maybe six in the second half. 478 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: He finished with nineteen yeah, nineteen seven three steals. 479 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's why I thought Dudoka just should play 480 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 2: through both Jalen Green and Shingun more. And they literally 481 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 2: sat at times and they decided to go to the 482 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 2: Stephen Stephen Adams, Hey, we're going to score the in 483 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 2: the paint? I guess. I mean, okay, see is the 484 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 2: best defensive points in the paint team in the league. 485 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: They're good at They're extremely good at pushing up and 486 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 2: getting players out of the paint and defending in the paint. 487 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 2: But at the same time, I thought, should have just 488 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 2: gone through. John Green is a freaking athletic beast. He 489 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 2: should have been able to get in the lane more 490 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 2: and Shanghun same thing. I mean, play through heart and shine. 491 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: They got, Yeah, they got, they got dominated. They got 492 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: pushed out of the paint and weren't able to get 493 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: into it. So that was the disappointing thing. 494 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: Do you have a fix for the end of the 495 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: game situation where we get a million timeouts and a 496 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: million reviews like and this is sort of like I 497 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,959 Speaker 1: feel like in the discourse right now, like the entertainment 498 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: value of a game where people are like, this is 499 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: not great entertained basketball. Does anything come to mind? 500 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 4: Because I get a rule you can't call a timeout 501 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 4: after you can't call a timeout after a made basket, right, 502 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 4: like there has to be a stoppage. 503 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: I think that's correct. That's what's Yeah, yeah, it's it's 504 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: that it's either reduced timeouts. And I know this has 505 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 1: been talked about before, but tell me, convince me this 506 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: isn't a much more entertaining idea than a review. Literally 507 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: do possession arrow, but make it way more fun. Have 508 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: the guy shoot for it like they literally do, and 509 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: pickup like so there's a you challenge. It's the possession 510 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: arrow to whoever the team and the guy instead of 511 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: taking a three pointer because they're too damn good, whatever, 512 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: make it a bomb, make it thirty feet. It would 513 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: be so much more entertaining. And then maybe there's like 514 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: a weird strategy of like, well, damn, we better have 515 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: our our bomber out there, like say, it could be 516 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: anybody on the floor like Peyton Fritrian's got to be 517 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: out there and in a clutch situation. Anything. Then go 518 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: to like watching refs, watch a review. It's stupid. 519 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 4: I will say we were having a great time with 520 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 4: James Caper's doing the reviews tonight. He got quite a 521 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 4: few chances at it, and every time, except for the 522 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 4: last time, as soon as he would start talking, somebody 523 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 4: would sub in and the buzzer would go off and 524 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 4: he'd have to wait. 525 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 3: Challenge confer. 526 00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: That was a good bit. 527 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 4: Can't talk, but otherwise, oh yeah, no, reviews would be good. 528 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 2: Yes, going going international is a great call because we 529 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: just saw teams get a bucket scored on them and 530 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 2: be able to just call timeout. Yeah, it happened over 531 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 2: and over and over again. I mean, I don't know 532 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 2: how many timeouts were called in the fourth quarter, but 533 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: there was a lot. So if you just had to 534 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 2: play basketball and then have to call time out when 535 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 2: an actual stoppage happened, it seems it seems like a 536 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: game of basketball more so than what we're what we 537 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 2: were watching. There was just way too many, way too 538 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 2: many timeouts. And I don't know if it had anything 539 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 2: to do with they had to meet a certain quota 540 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: of TV timeouts. Oh, I mean, I don't know, but 541 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 2: it just didn't. It didn't seem logical if that. 542 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: If that is the case, then that I mean, they're 543 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: literally ruining the game by doing that. They're making it 544 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: less entertaining, which should be at its core the most 545 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: important thing. 546 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, to grow again, the popularized met the TV time. 547 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: It definitely seemed like the teams are just calling. 548 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: Time out Yeah, we watch a million games. Is what 549 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: happens all the time. Yeah, I don't know this worse, No, 550 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: it happens so often. 551 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 4: Crazy though, because when you compare the two games we watched, 552 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 4: like Hawks Bucks was close in the fourth quarter. I 553 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 4: wasn't stopping like this one was the Rockets Thunder game. 554 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 4: That one stopped way more often, even though it was 555 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 4: never even like a two possession game. Yeah, it was 556 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 4: never the score never changed sides, no lead changes, no ties. 557 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt like especially Udoka was after going after something. 558 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 3: I mean it wasential. 559 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: Point differential anymore. All Right, So we have Bucks Thunder 560 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: Tuesday night. We're gonna be there. We respect the Cup 561 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: and I want to know who's gonna win and by 562 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: how many? Even if you want to give me a 563 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: line for Tuesday night, Bucks will be the home team 564 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,959 Speaker 1: whenever that it means they get to pick their jersey. 565 00:26:59,000 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. 566 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 2: I'm taking the Bucks really, yeah, I'm going against Okay, 567 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 2: see the more dominant team in the NBA this year. 568 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 2: I just feel like they are ready. They are here 569 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 2: to win the Cup. And Okay, so he didn't perform 570 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 2: well here in Vegas. Whether it's the sightlines in the arena. 571 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 2: That was a problem. I guess I thought I thought 572 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: they would turn it when they turned around at halftime 573 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 2: and they were going at the end that didn't have 574 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 2: the background of bright lights and and the restaurant side. Yeah, 575 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 2: the bar which is. 576 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 4: In court side now it's not, but the Hawks were 577 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 4: shooting on that and in the first game, and then 578 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 4: they turned it around and were. 579 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: Better in the second or half. 580 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 2: So I thought that might happen with Okay, see. 581 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: Which I guess it did. Did score more, but okay. 582 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 2: I'm taking the buck. Yeah, I feel like I feel 583 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 2: like they're here. I think they could have played better. Actually, 584 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 2: tonight like Dame could play better. 585 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 1: Both teams are saying that after tonight Milwaukee and okay, 586 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: see like, wow, we won, but we can play way better. 587 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they literally can play better. I think Chris 588 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 2: Milton was not right. He's I mean, he's still getting 589 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 2: back to who he is, but he was like he 590 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 2: literally lost the ball a couple of times in the 591 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 2: fourth quarter where they're trying to go through him. They're 592 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 2: trying to figure out the chemistry. 593 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: To throw it in bounds, and they're like, what are 594 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: you doing? Rude? 595 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 3: Will turnover. 596 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, the fourth. 597 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was good in the first half, I thought, 598 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 4: But he's rounding into form, which. 599 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: Is okay, he's going to Are you going, you know, 600 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: the young upstart Oklahoma City Thunder? Are you going with 601 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: these Vets? Look? 602 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 4: I do love that Torrian Prince is now thirteen and 603 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 4: z and Cup play mister Cup making it happen and 604 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 4: Darvin of course. But I think okay See is gonna 605 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 4: win based on what I saw tonight, because I thought 606 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 4: the Bucks struggled. They could have got better shots against 607 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 4: the Hawks, and the Hawks are an okay defense. The 608 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 4: Thunder are an awesome defense. So I kind of think 609 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 4: that okay See will shut them down. 610 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: Okay, gotta agree with him. I think this is like 611 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: it was a very bad OKAC game. I think they're 612 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: going to play much better on Tuesday night. And I 613 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: think that that the youthful energy is going to like 614 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: rear its head a little bit more against Milwaukee. 615 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna get Andres Jackson versus Shake Gills. Alexander 616 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 2: sure might not go good, might go good. 617 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: He can play and we like we said it like 618 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: shade a score over thirty. He didn't even play well. 619 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god, but he was. The moves were amazing, 620 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: and he just literally could not finish. 621 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 3: He just had no touch eight for twenty one. 622 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 623 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 3: So he was getting to the hoop and getting. 624 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 4: Shots, but he just wasn't able to convert and then 625 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 4: knocked on the free throws. 626 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: All we can hope for is a close game. So 627 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: we will be back on Tuesday night following the NBA 628 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: Cup Championship game. It is bucks, It's thunder, So we'll 629 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: be back right here, probably on the twenty seventh floor 630 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: of this undisclosed hotel. 631 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 3: Are we going to take the chair back? In the meantime? 632 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: All those chairs does not belong here, did you, guys? 633 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: Did security ask you any questions at all? Because one 634 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: of these chairs, these very comfortable, hilariously perfect podcast chairs, 635 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: were from your room. But the one was you're on 636 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: a floor like you're on a floor with a whole 637 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: different elevator bay than JD. 638 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't realize that. 639 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: You guys. So you took a chair down to the 640 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: lobby and then went across to another elevator where he 641 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: had to meet you to bring this up. 642 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, also because you need to put your card 643 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 2: in an elevator to get up to the proper room 644 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 2: to get to your room room access. So I couldn't 645 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 2: just I couldn't just PLoP it into their elevator to 646 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 2: JD's elevator, send it up, hope JD opens the elevator door. 647 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: But nope, did anybody, like anybody say anything in Vegas. 648 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 3: That's kind of a good point. You're right in an 649 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 3: elevator with a dog. 650 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: It's just the thing. 651 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 652 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 2: I was carrying it, and I did see a security 653 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 2: officer and I thought, okay, well, I'll just go to 654 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 2: tell that, Hey, we're recording a podcast. Modern day podcasts 655 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 2: are recorded in hotel. 656 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: Room three chairs. 657 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 2: But he just he just moved on. I guess because 658 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 2: he said, missus Vegas, weird things happened. 659 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: Did you Did either of you sit in the chair 660 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: when you were on the ollane? 661 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 2: We joked about it, and we talked about it to someone. 662 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,479 Speaker 2: I think we said to somebody in the elevator, hey, 663 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 2: would you like to have a seat. 664 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: Oh, it's classic. 665 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 2: It didn't happen. No, she joked about it. 666 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 3: Nobody wanted to do it. 667 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: Maybe next time they're like, what are they doing with 668 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: this chair? What weird thing is going on on? The 669 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: twenty seventh floor. 670 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're probably weird. 671 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: Okay, let's call it there. We will be back, like 672 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: I said on Tuesday night following the NBA Cup Championship game. 673 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: Well also maybe that night or maybe later in the week, 674 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: get into the minor trades trickling in. I guess they're 675 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: not official official yet, probably are official tomorrow. 676 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Sunday already tweeted it. Oh wow, Warriors. 677 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: Yes, I was probably obviously going to the page that 678 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: I can't believe two MVPs together on the Warriors again, 679 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: that's right, uh and then yeah, shorter to the Warriors. 680 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: So we'll get into that either on Tuesday or we'll 681 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: do it later in the week. But until next time, 682 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: Clipper bros. 683 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 3: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up. 684 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 3: Love you guys, awesome. 685 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. And remember the NBA Cup is 686 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 2: already better than the first version of the tournament because 687 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 2: it was called the the in season tournament. Because it's 688 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 2: better because it was called the in season tournament. Now 689 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 2: it's called the NBA Cup, and we respect it. 690 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: We respect it and respect you. We'll see it Tuesday night.