1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you missed in History Class, A production 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio, Hello and Happy Friday. I'm Holly Frye and 3 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm Tracy d Wilson Olly fry and I can't figure 4 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: out how to do the thing I do all the time, 5 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: which is hot about with dark episodes, we just forget 6 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: how sometimes sometimes we talked about unusual White House pets. 7 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: This week we did do that. I love talking about animals, Obviously, 8 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: I am tickled by the misinformation that pops up around these. 9 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: I love that we could mythbust that whole John Quincy 10 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: Adams having an alligator thing. Yeah. I liked talking about 11 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: Tad Lincoln, who doesn't get a lot of play right, 12 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: but sure sounds like quite a kid. Unfortunately, Tad did 13 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: not live very long ere he died when he was eighteen. 14 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 15 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: The Lincoln's really had Like Mary Todd Lincoln had so 16 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: much heartache in her life. 17 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 18 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: I know she can be a little divisive in some ways, 19 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: but I also just my heart goes out to her 20 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: through time. Yeah, but I do love the idea that 21 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: they could not could not possibly resist letting Tad have 22 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: his pet turkey. I have so many questions about that turkey. 23 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: Like the turkey was living inside, right, so presumably and 24 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: turkey's pooping in the house. Yeah, probably just seems inconvenient, 25 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: I mean, annoying. That's how pets work. Yeah, unless your 26 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: cats don't use use the bathroom, well I think. 27 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: But they go they have a designated place. I know. 28 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: I feel like a turkey might just be doing it wherever. 29 00:01:58,840 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: Maybe. 30 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: You and I also a conversation that we asked Casey 31 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: to cut because it was not really relevant. But here 32 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: in the Boston area there are wild turkeys that can 33 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: be really aggressive, and so I was like, what is 34 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:18,399 Speaker 1: the personality of this turkey exactly? And you had said 35 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: that there was there's no suggestion that the turkey was 36 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: ever aggressive, So like, that's good. Yeah, but I'm still like, 37 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: did we have random turkey poop all over the White House? 38 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, the Coolidge White House was probably much 39 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: more of a mess. Sure, Or are they putting the 40 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: turkey in a diaper? Probably not. It's a thing that 41 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: can be done. Yeah, that's true. You know, I don't 42 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: know nobody ever discussed the bathroom habits of the turkey. No, 43 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: nor did they discuss the bathroom habits of Rebecca raccoon. Yeah, 44 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: but I do. I do know that raccoons can be 45 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: litterbox trained. Yeah, Raccoon poop can also carry some things 46 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: that are hazardous to people. 47 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a lot of all of these animals. 48 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: I mean, we said in the show, like the wild 49 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: animals should not be kept as pets. 50 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, they are. 51 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: In addition to the fact that they can be like 52 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: a lot more destructive to a human built environment than 53 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 1: a domesticated pet animal would be a lot of times, 54 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: it's just not good for them to be kept as pets. 55 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: Like it's it's very different from their temperament and their 56 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: needs for you know, space, and whether they roam, whether 57 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: they need to have the community of other animals right 58 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: to really be There's so many things, so many. 59 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: I will yeah, I will say this. 60 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: What I kept thinking about in writing this episode, and 61 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: particularly writing about the Coolidge White House, was that, like, 62 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: the Coolidges clearly had big hearts and loved animals, but 63 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: they also were not and did not know any animal behaviors. Okay, sure, 64 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: And where was that science in its development at that 65 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: time is like also a question. Yeah, it didn't exist 66 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: at that point. Nobody was really considering the emotional needs 67 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: of animals and what they might want. At that point, 68 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: all of these things were happening like in the context 69 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: of the time that they were happening in in which 70 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: people's perceptions of animals were very different in a lot 71 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: of ways than today. But it still feels worth saying 72 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: when doing an episode like this, like number one, pets, 73 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: wild animals do not make good pets for a lot 74 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: of reasons, and also just don't give people wild animals 75 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: or any animals as surprise gifts. No, And I did 76 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: want to mention that in relation to our listener mail, 77 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: because our listener mail mentions that she got her dog 78 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: as a surprise gift from her husband. But I I 79 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: wanted to point out before anybody can say you should 80 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: not do that in that case, I don't want her 81 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: to ever get attacked, because it was clear they had 82 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: started talking. 83 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: About a dog before then. 84 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so that was There are certain circumstances where yes, 85 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: you could give someone as a pet as a gift, yeah, 86 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: but as a true surprise it's a bad idea always. 87 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 2: Well, and it's like if. 88 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: Like you were just say, like if you and your 89 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: partner or you and your family or you and whoever 90 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: have had discussions about getting a pet and the care 91 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: of the pet and who's responsible for what, and like 92 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: you've made a decision together about a pet happening, and 93 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: then there is a surprise puppy under the Christmas tree. 94 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: That's not what we're talking about. Yeah, we're talking about surprise. 95 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:46,799 Speaker 1: The letter carrier has arrived with a raccoon and a crate. Yeah, 96 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: that was intended for food, but that's a part of 97 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: the nuance. But like that, that's just a live animal 98 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: that you have sent to a person without talking them 99 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: about it. 100 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 101 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: I also feel like some of it is dependent on 102 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: the personalities of the people involved. 103 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: My beloved could surprise. 104 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: Me with any animal any day of the week and 105 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be excited. Yeah, the reverse could not be set. 106 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: And part of that is right, Listen, I know a 107 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: little bit about raccoon's kept in houses because I grew 108 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: up with a mom that didn't have boundaries, which is 109 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: not great, but we had a lot of inappropriate pets 110 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: for a very particular stretch of my family's household time 111 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: where my dad was stationed overseas. My mom was a 112 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: little bit on the struggle bus in terms of her 113 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: mental health. Right, And I was definitely perfectly happy as 114 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: a child to be like, right on, we got weird 115 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 1: things that live in our house because I was a child. 116 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,559 Speaker 1: Like when I look back, I'm like, oh, dear lord, 117 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: I think you mentioned the deer. Recently, there was a 118 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: deer that lived in your house. Briefly, there was somebody 119 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: who was like, I need more detail about what happened 120 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: with this deer. Yeah, I'm a little reluctant to talk 121 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: about it, only because there are portions of our family 122 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: that don't know about this. Oh dear hahah. And I 123 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: don't want to get anybody upset. You don't want to 124 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: get anybody in probly a deer that lived in the house. 125 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: That is what I will say if you ever meet 126 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: me in person, I will happily tell you the whole 127 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: not for broadcasts, not for broadcast, and it doesn't have 128 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: a great ending. 129 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: I will tell you that. 130 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: That's the other thing. It's a downer. But yeah, yeah, 131 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: we had a variety of weird animals. You know, dogs 132 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: and cats, but also fish and deer and perhaps briefly 133 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: a raccoon. There are some secret animals that people still 134 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: alive today. Would not be happy to discover had lived 135 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: in their home. Listen, everybody's childhood is different. This is 136 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: probably why I'm so like I love change, I'm good 137 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: with whatever, because I was very used to like weird 138 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: things happening in my life. In any case, I said, 139 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: I would tell the story of a swearing bird, and 140 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: I also have to be very careful about this one 141 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: because it is not my story. It is a story 142 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: of an animal trainer that I have met in my 143 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: life who used to train birds, specifically to appear in 144 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: a bird show, right, a very popular bird show, And 145 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: they would take birds that needed to be rehomed sometimes, 146 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: And in this case, they had taken in a parrot 147 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: who had been owned by two people. They had had 148 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: him a very long time, they were elderly, they could 149 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: no longer care for him. There had been a lot 150 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: of discussion back and forth of like, oh, he's a 151 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: great bird, he loves people, he's very comfortable around humans, 152 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: he sings like he knows songs and stuff, and he did. 153 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: He was very great, and they spent a lot of 154 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: time training him and prepping him. But what happens is 155 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: a lot of times there are weird latent behaviors that 156 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: an animal will have that when you put them in 157 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: a stage scenario which has a little bit of a 158 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: heightened stress, those latent behaviors will pop out unexpectedly, and 159 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: they had in this case, had never come out at all. 160 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: While they were doing training. This bird had been calm, 161 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: cool and collected, did all of the tricks that they 162 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: had been told he would do. And then when he 163 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: came out for his debut and he was on stage 164 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: with a little girl from the audience, he shouted expletives 165 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: in that kid's face, which they had never heard him 166 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: say before. And that was the end of his performing career. 167 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,599 Speaker 1: But he was still kept by this animal sanctuary that 168 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: ran this program again. But like it happens all the time. 169 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: So there's also part of me reading the Andrew Jackson 170 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: bird thing that this is a bird who lived with 171 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: someone who loved it for the last eight years of 172 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: that person's life, right, and then that person is gone 173 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: and suddenly there are three thousand people at your house. 174 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: So it could have just been a latent behavior that 175 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: he didn't normally do in front of people. She she 176 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: was a female parrot, and that it popped out in 177 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: a moment of obvious stress, right. You know, it's like 178 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: a human when you hit your hand with a hammer. 179 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: Even people that do not have potty mouths like me 180 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: will say a swear word at that moment. Animals will 181 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: do weird things when they are put in stressful situations 182 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: or they don't understand something. So yeah, I'm going to 183 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: give Paul grace. She may have been a really cool bird, right, 184 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: and then yelled so much at the funeral that she 185 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: had to be escorted. At animals, they're the best. Her 186 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: person was gone and there was a giant crowd. Of 187 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: course she was stressed out. Yeah, that's a lot, that's 188 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: a lot, a lot. I mean anybody that has normal 189 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: I'm using the word boring not to say that your 190 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: pet is boring, but like expected boring typical pets like 191 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: cats and dogs. When you have guests over to your house, 192 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: they might act weird. 193 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: We've all seen it. 194 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: Right, Like you know, your cat that is super loving 195 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: to you may run away when a stranger comes in 196 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: the house, or they may do something. We used to 197 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: have a cat that would do something very inappropriate when 198 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: people came over to the house. It happens in stressful 199 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: situations for animals. 200 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 2: So justice for Paul, I don't know. 201 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, African gray parrots also are incredibly smart. Yeah, do 202 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 1: form very strong attachments to people and live a long time, 203 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 1: have very long memories to go with their long lives, 204 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: like they will. There's no telling what that bird had 205 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: experienced even before it lived in the Jackson household. So yeah, 206 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: they're very beautiful. Can be mean like any other animal 207 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: can Some of them have personalities that are not cozy anyway. Yeah, 208 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: everyone needs to make provisions for what happens to their 209 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: pets after they die. Yes, but those parrots extra so 210 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: because yeah, it's likely that they will outlive a lot 211 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: of people. 212 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's a thing that. 213 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: Normally, if you are getting birds from a reputable place, 214 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: they will be very clear about like, the life expectancy 215 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: of this bird is longer than yours, probably depending on 216 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: you know where you are in your life when you 217 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: get it, and like theoretically you will be coached through 218 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: that at the time you acquire that bird. But it 219 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: is it's a tricky thing. I think no matter where 220 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: you are in your life, if you have animals, I 221 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: hope you have a plan in place for if something 222 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: happens to you. Even if it's like a handshake agreement. 223 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: We have one with our pets that are each of 224 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: us would take the other's animals if something happened, And 225 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: that's in part because we do know each other's animals 226 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: so well, we know they are healthcare, the genes there, 227 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: and also just because we would like to know they're 228 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: with somebody that we know that would love them. Yeah, 229 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: will Yeah, Yeah. We don't have anything written down. We 230 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: probably should, but everybody in our social circle knows that's 231 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: the plan. So you know, got to make it. You 232 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: got to make allowances for your bibis. I think about 233 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: it all the time because three of ours that we've 234 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: gotten this year, and I've told the story a couple 235 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: of times, came from one home that could no longer 236 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: care for them. And part of the reason we took 237 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: all three was because I was like, if those were 238 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: my pets, I would want them kept together and to 239 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: know that they had that continuity in their lives to 240 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: reduce distress. And also they're all just great cats. So 241 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: like we kind of won the jackpot there. But you know, 242 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: you got to think about these things when you adopt animals. 243 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: That's a long term commitment that may be longer term 244 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: than your life, unfortunately, so you gotta be ready for 245 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: the babies. We talked about cranberries this week, we did. 246 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: I have many cranberry thoughts. Yeah one, We're just gonna 247 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: take it head on. The arguments over food, it I 248 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: hate them. Yeah, I find it really frustrating. There was 249 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: I think you were not working in our office when 250 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: somebody was working on a podcast that was going to 251 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: be about food debates, and everybody started emailing around like 252 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: this food is better, this food should not exist, blah 253 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. And I literally got so frustrated 254 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: by the email chain that was coming to me over 255 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: and over that I stood up from my desk and yelled, 256 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: can we stop arguing about food? Except there were expletives involved? 257 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: Like I just I hate it so much. Let people 258 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: eat what they want to eat. So I think, like, 259 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: something that I think is fine is when there are 260 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: regional or cultural ways of making food to say, like, 261 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: for example, in Lexington's style barbecue in North Carolina, there 262 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: is a slaw that is served with it called red Slaw. 263 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: Red slaw is not for everybody, right, but I love 264 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: it and I love having Lexington style barbecue with that 265 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: red slaw. That's all great to me. I'm telling people 266 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: the nuances of different kind like different cultural, regionally specific, 267 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: ethnically specific, whatever, types of food all great. But when 268 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: we get into the realm of people being outraged that 269 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: someone else who has nothing to do with them put 270 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: some ingredient into their potato salad, I'm like, can we 271 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: not If you don't want that in your potato salad, 272 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: don't put it in there, And if you don't like 273 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: that person's potato salad, don't eat it. But we don't 274 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: need to go on a gigantic diatribe and bring out 275 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: pitchforks about the potato salad ingredients. Y yeah, I mean 276 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: this is my thing. Like, I'm not saying everybody should 277 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: be cool with every food, because obviously you have taste 278 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: and preferences. I don't like everything on the planet. But 279 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: I don't think people realize how denigrating it is to 280 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: bark at other people about the way they eat and 281 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: their preferences, because you wouldn't want somebody to come at 282 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: you about the way you eat prison. 283 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: I know people don't like. 284 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: Can jellied cranberry sauce, but I'm here to say it 285 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: has its place. Yeah, one's what I grew up on, 286 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: which cracks me up. And I don't understand this particular 287 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: thing because my mom was to make everything from scratch, 288 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: mom uh huh. 289 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 2: But for some reason that. 290 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: Never applied to cranberry sauce. Yeah, and I don't know 291 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: what that was about. Cranberry jelly and cranberry sauce is 292 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: very appealing to kids, okay, because it is high sugar. 293 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: Usually it's jelly, you know what I mean. 294 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I'm laughing because when I was a kid, 295 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: at my grandmother's Thanksgiving, like that that was on the table, 296 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: and as a kid, I never tried it because I 297 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: did not like the look of it. Yeah, I was 298 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: like that looks wrong to me. No, So I was 299 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: an adult before I ever had any kind of like 300 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: cranberry salad at Thanksgiving. And then it was like a 301 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: homemade salad made from scratch. 302 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, both are good. 303 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: I mean I like the homemade kind because again, it 304 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: is so easy and you can doctor it up and 305 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: do your own thing with it. And like, yeah, if 306 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: you have never made cranberry sauce and you like to 307 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: try things in the kitchen, I highly recommend because it 308 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: couldn't be easier. It's literally throw some cranberries a in 309 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: a saucepan with sugar. Yeah, but that stuff simmer. You 310 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,959 Speaker 1: might add a tiny amount of water just so that 311 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: the before the cranberry start popping, the sugar doesn't score. 312 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: But then you just let it go. But then you 313 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: can add stuff. Add a little vanilla. Some people add orange. Yeah, 314 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: you can add You can do anything you want with that. 315 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: You can add a little bit of rum to it 316 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: and make it a whole other flavor and it's delicious. 317 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: One of our farmers at our farmers market this year 318 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: had cranberries for a couple of weeks and Patrick bots 319 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: them and I was like, what are you gonna do 320 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: with those cranberries? 321 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: And he was like, I don't know. 322 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: And what he did do was he made a jam 323 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: out of them and it was so good. Oh, I 324 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: will tell you what I'm about to do with cranberries 325 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: here in a minute, because I feel so almost like 326 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: foolish about the way our Thanksgiving went down this year 327 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: in a good way that I feel like I need 328 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: to confess it to everybody what a ding dong I am. 329 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: At all points in time, we often. First of all, 330 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: Brian and I pared down Thanksgiving. We have Thanksgiving with 331 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: just the two of us. Yeah, we are on the 332 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: go so much that there are very few days that 333 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: are holidays where it's like, you know what, what if 334 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: you and I just hang out together and we eat 335 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: a feast and we build lego and watched Star Wars 336 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: things on TV and I, you know, make a cocktail 337 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: and it's wonderful. And so Thanksgiving has become one of those. 338 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: And sometimes I cook, but a lot of times I 339 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: will just order a feast from a restaurant if one 340 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: of the restaurants near us that we like has one. 341 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: I messed up that order this year in a comedic 342 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: way because the restaurant that I have ordered from many 343 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: times in the past changed their copy on their website 344 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: about what was included, and it seemed like a pared 345 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: down version of the feast, Like it seemed like your 346 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: turkey you're stuffing. You had options on some of the sides, 347 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: but like it didn't mention cranberry sauce and it didn't 348 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: mention desserts. Okay, And first of all, I ordered an 349 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: unconscionable amount of food for like eight people. Yeah, thinking like, 350 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: we're going to eat off of this for four days 351 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be magic, because we know I love 352 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: my leftovers. But then I went to pick it up 353 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: and there was so much more things. They handed us 354 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: a big thing of cranberry sauce, which is their home, 355 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: and then like this entire tray of pecan and pumpkin 356 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: custard tartlets, and I was like, oh goodness. And I said, 357 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: uh oh, because I had already purchased fresh cranberries to 358 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: make my own sauce and ingredients to make pies. And 359 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: I was like, well, now I have a lot of 360 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,239 Speaker 1: cranberries on hands. So what I am doing, yeah, is 361 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: making cranberry liqueur, yeah, which is super easy. Look up 362 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: a recipe on line. But basically, to make a liqueur, 363 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: you just take a neutral spirit like a vodka. You 364 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: can also use gin, you can use really any spirit 365 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: you want. Crush them up, let them soak in that 366 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: spirit for anywhere between three days to three weeks. There 367 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: are cool things you can purchase online if people do. 368 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: If people make homebrew, they probably have them that can 369 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: you can test the ABV of a thing, m M. 370 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: It's super easy and like that's a good way to 371 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: know when the alcohol by volume has dropped a little 372 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: bit because the fruit juices have gotten involved in like 373 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: the proportions are different. And then you can sweeten it 374 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: if you want, or you can make it super dry 375 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: and leave all the sugar out. But then you have 376 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: this great liqueur once you strain off the berries that 377 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: you can put into Margarita's, a Collin's, like whatever you want, 378 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: and it's just delicious. Patrick also likes to make shrubs. Yeah, 379 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: if listeners don't know, shrubs are a thing that you 380 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: can put into a cocktail or another drink, or you 381 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: can just sip it or have it in sparkling water, 382 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: made with some kind of fruit and sugar and vinegar. 383 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: And He's made a ton of different shrubs. And he 384 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: tried to make a cranberry shrub one time, and he 385 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: had never really worked with cranberries for that purpose before, 386 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: and it like it didn't work out. 387 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 2: And I think a. 388 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: Different series of steps probably would have made something delicious. Yeah, yeah, 389 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: those are almost you know, listen, Experimenting is my favorite. 390 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: But I always know that when I'm making an experiment, 391 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: I have to be ready for it to not go 392 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: the way I want but that's always a learning experience. 393 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: This is why it's good to notate I'm bad about 394 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: taking notes as I go, but that makes a big difference. 395 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: The title page thing was a hoot for me in 396 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: that one book about reading Cranberry's because, as I have 397 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: mentioned before, I used to work as a cataloging assistant 398 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: in a library for like a decade plus, and you know, 399 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 1: our joke was always, you can't judge a book by 400 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: its cover, but you can't judge it by its title page. 401 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: But the thing was, like, normally I have seen a 402 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: lot of books that have what you might call to 403 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 1: title pages, but one is usually like an illustrated kind 404 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: of splashy graphic one that doesn't have much information, and 405 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: then the other one is the true title page with 406 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: like the publisher, the data publication, et cetera. Yeah, that 407 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: book has the splashy graphic page, but it still has 408 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: all of that other information on it, which is why 409 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 1: it's been so confusing for catalogers. I think over the years. 410 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: It's just a weird thing. 411 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 2: I said. 412 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: We would talk briefly about Cranberry's use for utish, at 413 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: least I don't know if I said it during recording. 414 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: I know I said it to you, but I think 415 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: you said it just to me because the thing is right, Like, 416 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: that's a very common thing. We have all been told 417 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: since youth that if you have a urinary tract infection, 418 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: drink cranberry juice. That's actually not a great treatment, but 419 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: it is a great preventative apparently, Like there was a 420 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: lot of research done I feel like in the late 421 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: nineties and early to twenties, two thousands, I don't know 422 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: what to call them that suggested that like because of what, 423 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: because of the acidity of it, Like the bacteria that 424 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: causes those problems cannot lodge onto the wall of your 425 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: urinary tract right and cause that, but you can't like 426 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: wash it off with crabber right after the fact. Yeah, 427 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: it will help support your recovery in terms of not 428 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: allowing it to get worse potentially, but just know, and 429 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: also helping you to stay hydrated and drink a lot 430 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: of fluid, which also helps. But just like I feel 431 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: like it gets a little confused where people think, like 432 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: that's the treatment and you should be doing another treatment perhaps, Yeah, 433 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: and that can be a supportive aspect if you already 434 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: have it, but Yeah, there are also supplements made from cranberries. Yeah, 435 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: and I don't know how much research it is there 436 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: is into like whether that active ingredient is helpful in 437 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: the same regard. But I personally have taken it, taken 438 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: those supplements when I have felt like I am going 439 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: to be at more risk of urinary tract infection, like 440 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: if I'm going to be traveling a long time and 441 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily going to be able to stay hydrated 442 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: or have access to bathrooms or whatever, like those are 443 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: when you're on a bus in Morocco, you're scared to 444 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: drink water because you don't know when you will hit 445 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: a bathroom. What's funny is I didn't do this in 446 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: Morocco at all. I did I like with SpongeBob above water, 447 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: I didn't drink a thing on those bus trips. Oh yeah, 448 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: I didn't drink on the bus trips. But I also 449 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: was not taking cranberry supplements on the bus. But like 450 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: when you and I have gone on tour in the past, 451 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: and like our schedules have been really irregular and a 452 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: lot of time in airports and on airplanes and in transit, 453 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: like sometimes I have done that with the hope of 454 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: helping prevent a UTI. If I get a UTI, I 455 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:37,479 Speaker 1: call the doctor. 456 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 457 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: I also wanted to finish this by issuing a personal 458 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 1: plea to Disney. Okay, Disney, here my plea. 459 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 2: Listen. 460 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: This is the thing that I do at home, but 461 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: it's not feasible for everybody to do because I have 462 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: because I'm a ridiculous person in industrial soft serve machine. 463 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: You do have, so I can make my own doll 464 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: whip here at home, but not everybody can. But let 465 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: me tell you, the best move you can make post 466 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: holiday is to put your leftover cranberry sauce on top 467 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: of pineapple dull whip. 468 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 469 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 1: It is one of the best things I have ever 470 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: eaten in my life. It was one of the smartest 471 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: uses of leftover cranberry sauce I have ever come up with. 472 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: And I really wish Disney would just offer this as 473 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: a holiday snack item. 474 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 2: Because that is so fun. It's so good. 475 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: It's so good like the tartness of cranberry with that 476 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: slight tartness that pineapple can sometimes have somehow does not 477 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: compound into hyper tartness. It becomes really delicious together lovely 478 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: and because it's like, you know, sweet and a little 479 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: bit creamy and cold. It's like a whole other It's 480 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: so good. It's so good. Disney, please do this because 481 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: I don't always want to make a big batch of 482 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: dull whip at Yeah, because sometimes to do those machines, 483 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: you got to make a certain amount and it's a 484 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: pain in that it took us to clean that thing. 485 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: And I don't always want to be like Brian, do 486 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: we have room in the freezer for a gallon and 487 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: a half of saft serve that. I'm not going to 488 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: eat one cup of dollwhip today. Sometimes it's happened, but 489 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: I really really listen Disney as the purveyor of dolwhip 490 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: to many people. Please put cranberry sauce on it. 491 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 2: That's all. 492 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: It's all a masking. It's all the masking. I don't 493 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: need credit. I just need to be able to get it. 494 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 2: My holiday plea for the year. I hope. 495 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: If this is your weekend coming up, maybe you have 496 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: some doll whip if you're somewhere you could get it. 497 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: You could go to Hawaii put some cranberry sauce on that, 498 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: or you can go to Disney World I feel like 499 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: there's some other place in the US that has started 500 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: selling dole whip, and I don't remember where it is, 501 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: but other than you know, my house, there's the n 502 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: ice cream shop near my house that over the summer 503 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: had what they were at least saying was dull whip. 504 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 2: It tasted like dull whip to me. 505 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you can buy the mix for dolwhip. 506 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: You just have to have a machine to make it do, 507 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: like if you have your own, like home soft served machine, 508 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: because they do make smaller ones for home use, like 509 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: consumer ones. Mine is ridiculous and huge because I'm a 510 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: ding dong. I don't know why as I've gotten older 511 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: my hobby has become service industry, but there you go. 512 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: But they do make smaller ones and you can buy 513 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: like the powdered mix that they use to make dole whip, 514 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: and it works great. So if you have a smaller 515 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: one and you can do that, great if you don't 516 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: have a machine and don't want to get into that 517 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: whole business. Disney should be meeting this need. The other 518 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: great thing to do with leftover cranberry sauce if you 519 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: have it and it works for either the jellied kind 520 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: or the homemade kind, although they're gonna do different things 521 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: if you use that instead of simple syrup in an 522 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: old fashioned it's very delicious. 523 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 2: That sounds really good. The face you just made made 524 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 2: me so happy. 525 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: Like you can literally, if it's the jellied cranberry sauce 526 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: and you don't particularly love it to eat, you might 527 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: be surprised at. 528 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: How well it will blit. 529 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: Like you literally just get a scoop of a little 530 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: barspoon scoop of it, put it in your glass, muddle 531 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: it with some mangaster bitters, and then put your your 532 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: bourbon of choice on top. Give it a really good, 533 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: so delicious same thing. You can do it with the 534 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: homemade stuff, but it will have the little bits in it. Yeah, 535 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,719 Speaker 1: but you can also use that stuff to make like 536 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: custom sodas. 537 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: You can just. 538 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: Embrace the cranberry sauce in whatever form it comes to you. 539 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: If you don't like one or the other and you 540 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: somehow get it or have it, like you know you're 541 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: visiting someone and that's what they have, there are ways 542 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: you can use it that I bet might delight you. Yeah, 543 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: I'm all about you know, kitchen and bar creativity. So 544 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: let's let's all embrace all the things and don't dog 545 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: anybody for what they want. The other thing I wanted 546 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: to say about homemade versus canned cranberry sauce. Not everybody 547 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: has the means to cook for whatever reason. Yeah, whether 548 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: they are physically unable to, whether they just don't have 549 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: access to a kitchen. That's you know, a Thanksgiving meal 550 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: is a lot to cook, even if you're just reheating it. Like, 551 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: just don't dog people for their choices. That's my Please 552 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: be kind As we head into this weekend and we 553 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: are in the midst of the holidays. I know it's 554 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: easy for everybody to get tired and frustrated because everywhere 555 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: is busy, there's nowhere to park, and you're tired and cold. 556 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 2: But I hope we. 557 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: Can all still muster the kindness to treat each other 558 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: with respect and dignity and care, and that everybody is 559 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: cool to you in return, because we should all be. 560 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: We will be right back here tomorrow with a classic episode, 561 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: and then on Monday we will have something brand new. 562 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: Stop you miss in History Class is a production of iHeartRadio. 563 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio, app, Apple podcasts, 564 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.