1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Doug Gottlieb 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: three to five Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: Boxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR boom Up America 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Come in to you 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: from sunny southern California, one last time with authority here 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. For forty years, Tyrack's been helping 10 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: customers from the right tires for how, what and where 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 1: they drive, ship fast and free and back by free 12 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: road hassle protection with convenient installation options like mobile tire 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: installation tyrat dot com the way tire buying should be. 14 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: So we had a lot to talk about, and I 15 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: am going to do something for the next two hours 16 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: which violates what I I have done for the last 17 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: twenty three years, really eighteen years as an afternoon drive 18 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: host here on the Doug Gottlieb Show, which is I'm 19 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 1: going to talk about what I want to talk about, 20 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: not necessarily what you want to talk about the rule 21 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: in sports radio, especially national sports radio, is check your ego, 22 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: which doesn't really happen with most of us as hosts. 23 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: Check your but check your ego in terms of topic selection. 24 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: My topic selection, Guys that talk about what they want 25 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: to talk about fall by the wayside. Guys that talk 26 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: about what the most people want to talk about. Like 27 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: we make fun of talking about the Cowboys at all times, 28 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: but when you talk about the Cowboys, more people have 29 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: an opinion or seem to want to listen. So I'm 30 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: going to violate that because of announcement that I made 31 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: after our show two days ago. And we'll get into 32 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: that in a second. First thing is congratulations to Dan 33 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: Byer's Seattle Seahawks. What a game, what a win, What 34 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: a way to announce your presence nukle Lustyle with authority 35 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: in the NFL on Thursday night football. 36 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: That was a wild one last night. Sees never a 37 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: dull moment. You already said it with Pete Carroll and 38 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson. Every Seahawks game came down to the final 39 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: second or the last play of the game last night. 40 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: So the Sam Donald Mike McDonald era no different. 41 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: And I love my favorite thing about social media is 42 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: freezing cold takes is pretty good, but when people keep 43 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: re seats and if you would have looked at halftime 44 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: or early in the third quarter on Sam Donald. Sam 45 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: Donald was what was the quarterback Nathan He was basically 46 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman, right, Nathan Peter Like, same old Sam Donald. 47 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: Sam Donald sucks. I can't believe Seattle did this. This 48 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: is the real Sam Donald. You had all the memes 49 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: and then pulling off the mask, you know, all those things, 50 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: and then Sam Donald the competitor wakes up and ends 51 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: up winning the a wild one, and I apologize. We're 52 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: not really gonna get into that. We're not gonna get 53 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: into the Puka nakua. I just think he's too dumb. 54 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: He doesn't know I'm Jewish. Again, There's there's plenty of 55 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: anti anti Semitism up there. I didn't view that as 56 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: anti Semitism. I view that as somebody doing something which 57 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: people want. People are looking for the gotcha moment. He's 58 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: it's not worth it. It's not worth it. So there 59 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: are other things to get to. Tonight. You have a 60 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: football game in Norman, Oklahoma, which I am fascinated by 61 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: and I love again. I would love. Matter of fact, 62 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it in my final radio show here 63 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Trade. I'm gonna tell you listen to 64 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: Steven A. Smith talk about the outcome of this football 65 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: game and saying that, you know, if Alabama doesn't win, 66 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: they should get rid of their coach and he should 67 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: go to Michigan. When you don't know anything about college 68 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: football is the worst part of this business. Yesterday, I 69 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: had the day off because I traveled from Green Bay 70 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: to Las Vegas to recruit in a junior college event, 71 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: the Tarcanian Classic, which is at the Orleans Arena, and 72 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: so I had about three hours to myself and I 73 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: sat down at a at a bar, and I was 74 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: watching first take and get up and watching first take 75 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:31,239 Speaker 1: and then talk about college football. I wanted to stab 76 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: my eyes out. That's what I wanted to do, stab 77 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: my eyes out. And so it's part of those emotions 78 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: that leaving this show behind because I don't think I 79 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: know this is the best show on sports radio because one, 80 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: our personalities all work together too, we all actually kind 81 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: of like each other. And three we actually like and 82 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: care on different levels about sports, which is not how 83 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: it works otherwise. And we're not hot takers. We don't 84 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: say things that we don't believe and that we haven't 85 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: throw thought out and have reason behind it. And you're like, wait, wait, 86 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: this is your last show if you haven't found out 87 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: Wednesday after the game and we had, I'm gonna just 88 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: say that's our best win since I've been at Green Bay, 89 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: and it's our best win, not because I mean, winning 90 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: on the road is more difficult. Winning at the US 91 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: Virgin in the US Virgin Islands against really talented teams 92 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: like UMass and Iona was an incredible weightlifted office and 93 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: we played really, really well. We've done some other impressive things, 94 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: but Santa Barbara is outstanding. They're really good. Being at 95 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: home is important because those are the people that fund 96 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: your program. Those are the people that want to see 97 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,799 Speaker 1: growth and success, and so beating a top one hundred 98 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: and fifty and really when healthy, they're a top one 99 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: hundred team like Santa Barbara was gigantic. Afterwards, I announced 100 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: that this would be my last year, or this would 101 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: be my last show with live radio. Okay, so just 102 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: to clarify, I'm still gonna do a podcast. I'm still 103 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: gonna do my podcast, you know, the Doug Gottlieb Show podcast. 104 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: We will use the All Ball platform and iHeart has 105 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: been great and we're gonna work together on it and 106 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: there are no negatives there. But some of it is perception, 107 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: and not that I care what people think, but the 108 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: people that matter, I want them to know green Bay 109 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: Basketball is incredibly important to me. And you can't say 110 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: something's your dream job and then not be willing to 111 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: literally and figuratively give you all four it. The reality 112 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: to it is green Bay Basketball hasn't suffered the last 113 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: year and a half because I haven't worked hard enough 114 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: at it. I would say there are times in which 115 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,559 Speaker 1: you guys have picked me up, which has been great, 116 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: and it's been all the other things in my life 117 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: which which suffer. It's just hard when you're trying to 118 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: be a show which is knowledgeable and not say things 119 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: that you don't know to be true. It's one of 120 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: the things that Jason and I get into all the time. 121 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: Jason's like, well, you never go like all in on 122 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: some things you're kind of wish about, and I'm not. 123 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: I'm The reality is the world is gray more than 124 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: black and white. Even though sports TV, sports radio, political 125 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: TV once you think it's black and white. It's left 126 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: and right and it's not. So we'll talk about it 127 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: some more. But I was thinking about this. Sports radio 128 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: has been the theme music to my life. Theme music 129 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: to my life. I was born in Milwaukee, lived there 130 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: till U six, moved to southern California, and every summer 131 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: we would return to New York City. My dad was 132 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: in New Yorker, grew up in the Bronx, moved out 133 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: to the island when he was fourteen years old, and 134 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: he would rent a car and he was like the 135 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: only human being that would like to drive in New 136 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: York because he was in New Yorker. And he would 137 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: turn on wfa N, which had Imus in the morning 138 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: and it had Mike and the Dog in the afternoon, 139 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: and he loved it. I would listen to Angels Talk 140 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: after Angels games and call in when I was in 141 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: high school. When I was in high school, I started 142 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: listening to XTRA in San Diego AM six ninety and 143 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: in the afternoon they had Lee Hacksaw Hamilton. For the 144 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: next couple of hours, I want to talk sports with 145 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,359 Speaker 1: you from Poway to Escondido, all the way up to Temechilla, 146 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: Valley for the next couple of hours. This is your 147 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: home for sports, right that is Lee Hacksaw Hamilton. And 148 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: at night. At night there was a show called The 149 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: Jim Rome Show and they was wild and they would 150 00:08:54,679 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: do drug tests Tokanukua for his hosts continue a posts 151 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: would have gotten a drug test which had a ping 152 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: and a cup sound in the background, and you know, 153 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: raiders sucked. Chargers rule good night Now was part of 154 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: the vernacular to anyone who watched that show. I remember 155 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: when Jim Rome got picked up nationally and I think 156 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: Denver was his first affiliate. Like this is how I 157 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: grew up. And so when I was in high school, 158 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: my dad was my AU coach and he would pick 159 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: me up from school and we'd have to go pick 160 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: up players for practice because their parents couldn't do it, 161 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: and we had to find guys where no one else 162 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: found them because we just didn't have enough players living 163 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: in Orange County to compete on a national basis in 164 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: AU basketball. And I would have my homework and he 165 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: would be listening to either Sports Radio XTRA or he 166 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: would listen to old cassette tapes of old time radio, 167 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: The Jack Benny Show, Burns and Allen, you name it. 168 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: So when I got to Oklahoma State my first year there, 169 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: we were thirteen and zero, we were getting ready to 170 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: play in Nebraska with Tyron lu and Nebraska was a 171 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: pathetic road team, and they asked me. Will Hancock, our 172 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: late sid, came in and asked me during shoot around, Hey, 173 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: everybody wants to talk to you. What radio show do 174 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: you want to do? Jay Stu, do you know what 175 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: radio show I want to do? 176 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 3: Oh? 177 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 4: Boy? 178 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 5: The Jim romeshow. 179 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: Correct because the year before, when I was sitting out 180 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: at Golden West College, Toby Bailey, who I had grown 181 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: up playing against, was his college basketball insider, and I said, 182 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: tell Jim, I want to be his college basketball insider, 183 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: and we lost to Nebraska. Coach was so pissed. I 184 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: didn't get to do any of the interview until the 185 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: NCAA tournament, and then I told Jim I wanted to 186 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: be his college basketball insider. I was the next year. 187 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: I was the next year. And then Eric Chenowith, who 188 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: I'd grown up with also in Orange County Villa Park 189 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: High School, who also grew up listened to the Jim 190 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: Rome Show he wanted to be on and we would 191 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: go back and forth in different spots while on Jim 192 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: Rum Show. I've been doing this for a long time 193 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: and this will be an emotional two hours for me. 194 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: I hope a good listen for you. I'm gonna tell 195 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: you how I've made it in this business. And there 196 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: really is only two things you truly truly need, and 197 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: then one other thing that I don't think most of 198 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: you will be able to get. And I'm sorry for that, 199 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: but I'm not sorry because I worked really hard for it. 200 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: But for the next two hours, we're gonna do. This 201 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: is my radio life. And it started in Orange County 202 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: and it started listening next Tora and started to listening 203 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: to Hacksaw and Rome and the other way it part 204 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: it started was in nineteen ninety six through ninety seven. 205 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: I sat out at Golden West College and my high 206 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: school coach my first year was Tom McCluskey. He took 207 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: the Golden West job and so I went there and 208 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: I red shirt essentially practiced with the team, and on weekends, 209 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: my old high school girlfriend lived up at Santa Barbara 210 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: and my brother was in San Luis Obispo at cal 211 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: Poly's first job, and so I would go up and 212 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: stop in on the way to San Luis Obispo and 213 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: see his games, usually on a Saturday night and on 214 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: Sunday night, I would drive home and the first show 215 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: at ESPN Radio was a night Sunday night show. It 216 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: was called Game Night. It was called Game Night, and 217 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: I think our show is the best now. The best 218 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: show at that time that I remember was Game Night 219 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: Tony Bruno and Chuck Wilson. Tony Bruno and Chuck Wilson, 220 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: and I would drive home on the one oh one 221 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: on a Sunday night and listen to these guys from Bristol, Connecticut, 222 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: and I thought to myself, Man, I'd really like to 223 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: do that. Fast forward to two thousand and three and 224 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: I got an opportunity to work at ESPN ESPN Radio. 225 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: My first show for the first three years I was 226 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: there was Game Night. My co host was the most 227 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: prepared man I've ever worked with, ever seen, ever happened 228 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: upon in the history of the medium. His name is 229 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: Chuck Wilson. He joins us now here on the Doug 230 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: Outlet Show on Fox Sports Radio, Jasmo. How you doing. 231 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 6: Doing well, Doug. 232 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 7: I'm plad to be able. 233 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 3: To join you today. 234 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: Game night way back when. What was it like, not 235 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: with me, with Bruno and those guys, what were those 236 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: shows like? 237 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 6: It was amazing. I mean, you're talking about a seven 238 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 6: hour talk show and we do it Saturdays and Sundays, right, 239 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 6: seven hours. 240 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 3: Here's the kicker. We didn't take. 241 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 6: Phone calls, so you're talking for seven hours. They'd be 242 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 6: three in the booth and be Tony and me, and 243 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 6: then we had kind of a rotating Peter ben Brown 244 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 6: was there for a period of time. They rotated in 245 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 6: TV people. Keith Oberman and Mike Jerico were Saturday and 246 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 6: Sunday when we first started out, but we rotated people 247 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 6: for a long period of time. I ended up working 248 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 6: with over I think over two hundred co host at 249 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 6: one time or another. But yeah, I mean, the cool 250 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 6: thing about it was we had access to all of 251 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 6: the ESPN talent, and the name, the good. 252 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 3: Name of ESPN got us a lot of interviews. 253 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 6: On the very first weekend we broke the story of 254 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 6: Danny Tartible to the Yankees through Keith Overman, Who've got 255 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 6: a tip on it, and so here it is this 256 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 6: fledgling you know, weekend network goes on the air and 257 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 6: immediately breaks uh, you know what was a very national 258 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 6: story that night. So that was pretty cool stuff. But yeah, 259 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 6: it was good. But I got a couple of stories 260 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 6: that i'd like to tell about you that are off 261 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 6: the air actually, and when we talk about being on 262 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 6: the air, because I really enjoyed working with you, as 263 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 6: you know, and I'll just say to folks, you know, 264 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 6: when you're working with somebody and they know what they're doing, 265 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 6: and especially obviously in hoops and in college football NFL, 266 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 6: you know. 267 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: Doug Reley knew his stuff. 268 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 6: And what I enjoyed was watching somebody who only had 269 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 6: surface knowledge make the mist of challenging Doug. Okay, now 270 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 6: here's the thing. Doug loves to debate stuff and he's 271 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 6: very good at it, right, so you'd better bring your 272 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 6: a game, especially if it's in a subject that he 273 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 6: really knows. 274 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 7: Okay, I mean he really knows. 275 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 6: But it would be fun because people just you know, 276 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 6: he'd knock him down the side. I mean, you saw it. 277 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 6: But I just want to go to two thousand and 278 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 6: four because we had Doug over the house, all right, 279 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 6: and we had, first of all, we had expanded our driveway, 280 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 6: put in a half court. We have a three point 281 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 6: line of had all the lines on and so forth, 282 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 6: the line based line and so forth. Right, And we've 283 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 6: got three boys, and our middle son is Matt. So 284 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 6: first of all, I'll tell you Matt's fourteen years old, okay, 285 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 6: and he and Doug are playing Madden, right, and my 286 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 6: son is just beating up done. Just my son is 287 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 6: up thirty points in the fourth quarter. But my son's 288 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 6: also fourteen years old, and he's a huge Michael Vick fan. 289 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 6: Now you would think, as he jokes about it today, 290 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 6: you would think that, you know, you might want to 291 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 6: run the ball. You know, you got Michael Vick. You 292 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 6: just no, Matt is going to pass. And Matt was 293 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 6: stubborn Michael Vick. Well, Doug got maybe the fourth quarter, 294 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 6: came back from thirty points at the bet, which was 295 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 6: pretty funny at the time. 296 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 7: The other story that's in this, though. 297 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 6: Is that I think everybody knows what an outstanding player 298 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 6: Doug was. 299 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 3: In high school. 300 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 6: Okay, he shared most outstanding Player award in high school 301 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 6: for the state of California. 302 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 3: It was one Paul Pierce. 303 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 6: Okay, sometime's really good. 304 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 7: So when he went to Oklahoma State, and I'll never. 305 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 6: Understand why coaches tell kids telling people don't shoot them. 306 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 6: You know, we don't want we want you to distribute, 307 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 6: We don't want you to shooting the ball. Well, Doug 308 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 6: went from you know, being somebody who had the confidence 309 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 6: to score and really could shoot too. Frankly, I think 310 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 6: you'd agreed, Doug. I mean, got to the point where 311 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 6: even free throws were a challenge. All right, yes, But 312 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 6: I want you to tell you that in two thousand 313 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 6: and four, Doug came to our house play a little basketball. 314 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 3: Out there. 315 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 6: They're shooting threes, right, And I swear to you that 316 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 6: because I confirmed this with Matt today, you know what 317 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 6: was the exact number? Doug Gottlieb made twenty seven straight 318 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 6: threes on an outdoor court. 319 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: That that sounds like a windy I'll tell you mine 320 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: real quick, Chuck, before we go, I got two things 321 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: for you. One, you want to talk about a twenty 322 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: six year old you made it moment. It was the 323 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: twentieth Anniverse, twenty fifth anniversary of ESPN, and we did 324 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: a show from the ESPN Zone of New York City, 325 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,719 Speaker 1: and it was me and Chuck Wilson and we started 326 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,479 Speaker 1: the show. To my left was Ozzie Smith, to his 327 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: right was Richard Petty, the Wizard and the King. And 328 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there going what am I doing here? Right? 329 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: What am what? Am Wait? So it was and you 330 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: had been doing it forever. Knew everything about everybody. But 331 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: I need I need a thirty second dissertation. Pete Rose 332 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: passed away, right, not so tragically. Not a good person. Sorry, 333 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: that's just the reality to it. Okay, For people who 334 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: believe that Pete Rose belongs in the Hall of Fame, 335 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: the officient out of The only person you need to 336 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: listen to is Chuck Wilson. He's the only person I 337 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: know that can quote chapter and verse the Dowd Report 338 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: knows all the truth about what has been investigative Pete Rose. 339 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna ask you, Chuck right now. Should Pete 340 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: Rose be in the Hall of Fame? 341 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 3: Well as as a player? He should not. 342 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 6: But it will happen because people have, you know, short. 343 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 3: Memories, and. 344 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 6: You know some of the vices that have been poppened 345 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 6: up over time and so on. Here's the thing that 346 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 6: really bothered me about Pete Rose. You know, Pete never 347 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 6: really came clean. Peter Rose had a photographic memory. Okay, 348 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 6: he I mean, he could quote from you know, at 349 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 6: bats and games and exact situations. 350 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 3: All right. 351 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 6: When he writes in his book that he really can't 352 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 6: remember the first time he plays the bet professional, I 353 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 6: can tell you why he can't remember, because he was 354 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 6: a player manager and he never wanted to admit that 355 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 6: he bet on baseball as a player manager. As a manager. 356 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, he came clean on that. 357 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 6: I am convinced that he didn't want to say that 358 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 6: he bet as a player manager because he thought it 359 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 6: would hurt his chances to get into the Hall. And 360 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 6: had an interesting sideline to this Doug. About two months ago, 361 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 6: I met John Dowd for the first time. He lives 362 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 6: out in the Cape Cape Con, Massachusetts. And it's a long, 363 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 6: kind of a long story, but I went to a 364 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 6: fundraiser for the Rotary Club and there was a guy 365 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 6: that he actually lives next door to John Dowd. I 366 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 6: went out and I met John Dowd. John Dowd really 367 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 6: did a very honest report on Pete Rose and for 368 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 6: Pete to have ridiculed the individuals, you know, the commissioner 369 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 6: and John Dowd and the whole three stooges thing and 370 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 6: lied and lied and lied for years. Was really really unfortunate. 371 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 6: I was always cast as the bad guy that you know, 372 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 6: I'd always have to be the foil and say that 373 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 6: I didn't believe petecause. 374 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 3: Of course I didn't. 375 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 6: All the evidence is just clear that he had bet. 376 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 6: But you know, and that really bothered me because I 377 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 6: was Pete Rose growing up. I was I love the 378 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 6: hustle stuff, right, and so effort attitude are really big 379 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 6: to me, and so it was a big disappointment. But 380 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 6: that's the backstory if you want to put him into 381 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 6: the hall because you don't think gamblings, you know, I mean, 382 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 6: everything's you know, we're putting gambling in different category today. Okay, 383 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 6: but just remember this guy bet on baseball. He did 384 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 6: it as a player manager and you know people said, well, 385 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 6: you didn't bet against his own team. Well, every time 386 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 6: you didn't bet on your team or you did that, 387 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 6: maybe as a player, you're maybe you're putting your closer 388 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 6: out there for three straight days and you really. 389 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 3: Shouldn't have type things. 390 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 7: So no, I would not, But you know that's my feeling. 391 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 6: He'll he'll you know, that's he'll get in. 392 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 3: Because of time changes things. 393 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 6: But I don't believe you should Jack. 394 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: You taught me so much, and you were always so 395 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: graceful with how you taught me, And when when you 396 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: didn't come back, you never took it out on me 397 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 1: or on our friendship. And I just honored to share 398 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 1: a studio and learn so much from you. I appreciate you. 399 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate you and and and I never got to 400 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: the level of preparation that I didn't have the chuck 401 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: wagon ever you set you set up, You set a 402 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: bar for everybody to get to that that none of 403 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: us could really climb. 404 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 6: Well, that's nice you to say that. 405 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 7: Let me just say this that, uh, you just. 406 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 6: You wanted to keep improving. Uh and you did uh 407 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 6: an engaging conversation and doing solo shows something I. 408 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 3: Can't do very well, and there aren't. 409 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 6: That many that do it well, and you've done it 410 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 6: really well for quite a while. I thoroughly enjoyed playing 411 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 6: with playing in the. 412 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 3: Year with you, going back and forth. 413 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 6: Sometimes the third person in could be a. 414 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 3: Little difficult, as we both know, but uh no it was. 415 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 3: It's a real joy. 416 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 6: And uh, I just wish you the best going forward here. 417 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 6: I'm glad that you're doing this show today this way 418 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 6: because You know, people should understand how many of us 419 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 6: really enjoyed working with you and how much you brought 420 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 6: to the table, because man, knowledge is a cool thing. 421 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 3: I call it informed opinion. You know, everybody's got. 422 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 6: Opinions, but you gave us informed opinions and get better 423 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 6: at the sports you weren't as familiar with, but on 424 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 6: the stuff that was in your wheelhouse. 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This is the Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports 436 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: Radio if you're just joining us, not the usual DG Show. 437 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: Because this is going to be my last live sports 438 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: radio show for the time being, I'm gonna focus my 439 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: daytime attention on on the Green Bay Phoenix. On the 440 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: Green Bay Phoenix, my next guest is I tell people 441 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: all the time that you know, a real friend is 442 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: somebody who thinks of you one in times of need, 443 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: but two will always be your kind of biggest champion. 444 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: And I've taken one quasi journalism class in my lifetime, Damnpyre, 445 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: and that one was at Golden West College, Golden West College. 446 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,479 Speaker 1: But I wrote for the school newspaper at Golden West College. 447 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: Guess what I wrote about. 448 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: The school newspaper at Golden West College, which I've done? 449 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 2: Where is it? 450 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: Heind the beach Hullington. 451 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 2: I don't know the the baseball team. 452 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 4: Right. 453 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: One would think, Okay, I grew up playing sports. I 454 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: love sports. I want to talk about sports. You would 455 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: think I would cover sports, right I was. I did 456 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: food critique. I did food critique. Take a guess why. 457 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 2: Nobody else would do it? 458 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: I don't help and why free food? 459 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 2: Free food? Oh, free food makes sense? 460 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: Free food because I am low budget. I'd ask anybody 461 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: who knows me, like man, open up that wallet. Now 462 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm better now, obviously we're gonna this was just gonna 463 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: take a little hit with this one here. But the 464 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: point is I'm a free food. The fact that you 465 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: ordered pizza today is great. I did. I went to 466 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: the wallet but it was that it was the look 467 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: you not really going to the wallet thing, but thank 468 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: you for the pizza. 469 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 2: In advance Doug's third review of In and Out this 470 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 2: Week on the school newspaper. 471 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: But I made a friend in that class. He was 472 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: a football player, and then he didn't play football. He 473 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: went to Kansas so remarkably he goes to our rival school. 474 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: And while at Oklahoma State, my college roommate's girlfriend was 475 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: at KU, so we would go up and back there 476 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: sometimes and he would come down for a lot of 477 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: the big games. Fast forward to two thousand and two 478 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: and I had just gotten home from playing in Israel, 479 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: and I was filling in at WWLS, the Sports Animal 480 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: in Oklahoma City, and I want to fill in because 481 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: Jim Travor, the afternoon host, was the color voice for 482 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks and they were good then, and so he 483 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: was off there lots of times in the summer and 484 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: I would fill in. And I got a call from 485 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: Brandon after doing a show and he's like, hey, Dan 486 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: Steer from ESPN's trying to get a hold of you. 487 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: And I didn't have a cell phone at the time. 488 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: I didn't have an email address outside like mail and 489 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: I didn't have an extension at the studio because I 490 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: wasn't full time. Brandon was the guy responsible for me 491 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: getting an interview to do college basketball at ESPN, and 492 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: Brandon was my first producer when I got my first 493 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: show two thousand and two till two thousand and three 494 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: at wwwis's Sports Animal. He joins US now from Denver, 495 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: where he covers the Broncos. He also has his own 496 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: podcast network BK. What did you write about for the 497 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: school newspaper. 498 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,479 Speaker 8: I didn't write for the school newspaper. I was in 499 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 8: the football offseason program, so I was just in that 500 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 8: class with you. I think I might have written one 501 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 8: article as like part of an assignment, but I didn't 502 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 8: get published in the school newspaper. And I'd been writing 503 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 8: in Dallas as a kid and was published in the 504 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 8: Dallas Morning News, where I would write articles about wrestling 505 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 8: tournaments that I was in, so I wouldn't quote myself, 506 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 8: but I would quote my teammates and my coach, and 507 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 8: would write features about some of my friends who played 508 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 8: football and went on to play college football. But yeah, 509 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 8: I didn't write at Golden West. I did know, though 510 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 8: that I met you, that you know one day. You 511 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 8: would work at every single major sports radio network, and 512 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 8: you know, beyond March Madness coverage with Charles Barkley and 513 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 8: Kenny Smith and Ernie Johnson and Greg Gumbele. So I 514 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 8: got that sense when you know when we were fresh 515 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 8: I guess I was a freshman, you were sophomore. But 516 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 8: I was eighteen nineteen, you were nineteen twenty. I was like, oh, 517 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 8: this guy's going to be something. 518 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: My strongest memory of our show at night because I 519 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: did the middle of the day's show with Mark Rogers 520 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: right the mod squad, and then we had the nightly. 521 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: We did a basketball show at night. Remember guys, we 522 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: did a basketball show in Oklahoma City at night in 523 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: two thousand and two. Now, right now, a basketball show 524 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: at night in Oklahoma City is great. Back then, there 525 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: were only three sports covered in Oklahoma City radio, football, 526 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: spring football, and recruiting, and really was Ou football, Spring 527 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: football and recruiting. 528 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 8: Can I can I guess? Can I guess your strongest 529 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 8: memory because it Lamorrow is the scent of marijuana from 530 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 8: Lamarrow to we. 531 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: We had he somehow Brandon has the unique ability to 532 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: know everybody and to get into any room. There's never 533 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: been an event that I've gone to that he wasn't 534 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: able to get into, usually before I could, and I 535 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: was invited and had a ticket, and oftentimes he did not, 536 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: so he had I don't even how did you. I 537 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: don't even know how you knew lamar Odom. But lamar 538 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: Odom was early on in the NBA. He was, he 539 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: was on my radio show, and he could not have 540 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: possibly been more high, otherwise he would have been in 541 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: a coma. That's my shortest wimbor. 542 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 8: What weird is, if I were to guess how I 543 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,959 Speaker 8: knew lamar Odom, it'd be through a friend who I 544 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 8: met after working at the Sports Animal, which why it 545 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 8: makes why why it makes less sense. So it had 546 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 8: to be through a third party, somebody that knew him 547 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 8: along the way, because my friend Jonathan Grunfast, I worked 548 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 8: with the Serious when you went on to ESPN full time. 549 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 8: I took a job at Serious Report Serious XM as 550 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 8: it was getting off the ground, and my buddy Jonathan, 551 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 8: who worked there in a WFN was was the manager 552 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 8: at Rhode Island and lamar had to set out that 553 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 8: first year. So you driving back to Queens But so 554 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,719 Speaker 8: I don't know how we got Lamar lm On. That's 555 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 8: one that I could rack my brain for hours. And 556 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 8: I'm not really sure, but it's certainly the most memorable 557 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 8: that And I remember playing a lot of pickup basketball 558 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 8: and this guy tried to tell us he played at 559 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 8: Portland or Portland State, and of course we did the research. 560 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 8: He didn't, and he kept calling you a radio DJ. 561 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 8: And then you hit us three to win the game. 562 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 8: And you had just gotten back from playing in Europe 563 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 8: and you said, and he's like, okay, come on, mister DJ. 564 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 8: And you hit the shot. I sound like Chuck Wilson 565 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 8: now telling these glory day stories. But you hit the 566 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 8: shot to keep winning or maybe end the day. And 567 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 8: and you go and professional basketball player mf for check 568 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 8: the resume. And I was like, that's a good line. 569 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 8: Check or he said, check the resume mf For. I 570 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 8: was like, that's a good line. 571 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 572 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: Most times now I just do. Hey, hey, Bud, this 573 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: is the lowest point of my basketball career. Of the 574 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: high point, of course, let's let's just let's just let's 575 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: just get this thing over with. Was that at the temple. 576 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: We played a lot of pick up basketball at the 577 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: Temple in Okla. 578 00:31:59,160 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 3: Might have been at the church. 579 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 8: We played with Kelly greg the longtime nose tackle for 580 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 8: the Sure for the Ravens with his brother, So I 581 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 8: think that was at the church. We had about three runs. 582 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 8: We had want up a temple where that was not 583 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 8: much fun for you except for cardio, and then we 584 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 8: had a couple of church runs Mark Rogers Addison one 585 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 8: and yeah, it was no. That was definitely at the church. 586 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 8: That was not at the temple. 587 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: The church run was where I met my first bookie. 588 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: And I actually asked, you, why are they giving that 589 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: guy money. They're like, he's a bookie. I was like, 590 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: they exist in real life. He's like, yeah, there's a 591 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: bookie everywhere I had. I had no idea. I had 592 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: no idea. 593 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 8: Well, then then you moved to the East Coast and 594 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 8: they really existed everywhere, and now they're just on your phone. 595 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: Correct, listen, we got we got to run. I wanted 596 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: to have you on and tell you I appreciate you. 597 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 8: Well, I appreciate I appreciate you because you did help 598 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 8: me get my first radio job. And then when you 599 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 8: went to CBS and I went up there to interview 600 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 8: at CBS Sports Radio, you told me not to take 601 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 8: the job, and to say in Denver, I took it anyway. 602 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 8: But the second day I was there, I called the trendy, 603 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 8: get my job back, moved back eleven weeks later and 604 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 8: the rest is history. You know, was with my girlfriend wife. 605 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 8: We've got three kids, So thank you for that, and 606 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 8: thanks for as being a good friend. And you also 607 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 8: have the biggest Green Bay Phoenix fan in the state 608 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 8: of Colorado in my seven year old Leo, who went 609 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 8: to Allen Field House a lifelong Jayhawks fan because of 610 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 8: his dad, because it's my alma mater, and left a 611 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 8: fan of the opposition, which almost never happens. I have 612 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 8: to think when a kid goes to a school or 613 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 8: goes to Lawrence to watch a game at allen Field House, 614 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 8: so he's always asking how you're doing it, and he's 615 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 8: very excited that you are six dash seven right now. 616 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 8: So I said, there's gonna be a lot more wins 617 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 8: than that, though. 618 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,239 Speaker 1: In the last one, that's funny. When I walked out 619 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: allen Field House, I put on a Kansa sweathirt. I 620 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: was a much bigger fan of them. B K I 621 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: love you, say hi do you lovely bride and your 622 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: kids and tell Leo we need his cheering. We take 623 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: on Campbell on Tuesday. Thanks thanks for joining me. 624 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 8: Absolutely happy honkah happy. Howadays to you? 625 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 4: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 626 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 4: Gottlieb Show week days at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. 627 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: Have you heard about the games? Add This year binge 628 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: list ten athletes go ahead to head for a chance 629 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: to win an iFIT trainer contract. We're two hundred and 630 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: fifty grand, streaming live on Prime Video starting January eighth. 631 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: What's it take to make it? Well? You gotta have 632 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: work at you gotta be willing to work when other 633 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: people are not. That's that's that's really it. I was 634 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: very fortunate to not have to grind the way that 635 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: Dan Beyer did early on coming up because being a 636 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: former college basketball player and a fairly notable one, I 637 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,439 Speaker 1: got a really good shot in Oklahoma City, making way 638 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: more money than you normally do in your first radio show, 639 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: and then I was on like a rocket rocket ship 640 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: to go to ESPN a year later. But I do 641 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: think that it's when you do a radio show, a 642 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: TV show, when you do anything. Now, coaching a college 643 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 1: buss team, staff is everything surrounding yourself with really good people. 644 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: I came here eight years ago. Ryan Music was my producer. 645 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: I didn't know Ryan from Adam. What do you remember 646 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: Ryan about when we first started linking up and working. 647 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 9: I will tell you, Doug, it was a great pleasure 648 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 9: to get to work with you and launch the show. 649 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 9: And one of my favorite things about you was, after 650 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 9: being your producer and only knowing you for about three months, 651 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 9: you traveled to Israel to coach the Jewish national team 652 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 9: and you asked if I could drop you off at 653 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 9: the airport. I said, no problem, that's not an issue. 654 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,240 Speaker 9: And then as we arrived at the Burbank airport, you said, 655 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 9: all right, here's my Tesla and have fun for the 656 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 9: next three months. And I was like, okay, I guess 657 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 9: I have myself a brand new Tesla for the next 658 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 9: month or so. 659 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 3: While you were in Israel. 660 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, when I got Greg, you said you said it 661 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: shakes it one twenty I was like, dude, easy, now 662 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, it shakes it one twenty on what's 663 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: going on there? 664 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 8: Yeah? 665 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 7: Oh me either. 666 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 9: I thought Elon had this whole thing figured out with 667 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 9: aerodynamics and rocket ships, but hey, no, listen, tug it 668 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 9: was nothing but a pleasure, and obviously the great people 669 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 9: of Green Bay have a good one and know that 670 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 9: you'll only do great things as you lean into this 671 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,439 Speaker 9: book and purduce the building. 672 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:07,760 Speaker 6: A great program. 673 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: Here's the big question we want to ask, Hey, you're 674 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: now Collins producer. Do you take his picks as we 675 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: do and bet the opposite? Do you fade all of 676 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: his picks in his blazing five? If so, you would 677 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,439 Speaker 1: be a multi millionaire right now for this year. 678 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 9: Well, Doug, the fact that I am still Collins producer 679 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 9: if that map checks out, probably not actually the case. 680 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 9: It's kind of like if you'd won the power Ball, 681 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 9: you'd probably never seen me again. 682 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: So well, listen, from humble beginnings, you've become a star 683 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: from ce Sun as a volleyball player to my producer 684 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: now living in Chicago, living the high life, doing volume 685 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: stuff and calling stuff. Congratulate said everything, and thanks for 686 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 1: joining me, and thanks for all your hard work. 687 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 9: Thank you, Doug. 688 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: That's Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio coming 689 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: up next. There's one individual human being that's changed the 690 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,959 Speaker 1: trajectory of my life in sports more than anyone else, 691 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: anyone else. I'm gonna say thank you, Yeah, thank you, 692 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: and we'll go down memory lane of how I got 693 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: started in this racket. That's up coming next to the 694 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show. It's final show on Fox Sports Radio. 695 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 696 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 4: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 697 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 4: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 698 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,439 Speaker 1: Hey, what up with you? Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. 699 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: Hope you're having a great day. What comes you live? 700 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 6: Well? 701 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: Last time from you, Los Angeles, California. Have you heard 702 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: about trainer games? Add this your binge list. Ten athletes 703 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: go head to head for a chance to win an 704 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: I Fit trainer contract where two hundred fifty thousand dollars 705 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: streaming on Prime Video starting January eighth. If you're just 706 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: joining us and you hadn't heard, excive me my last 707 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: live sports radio show for the time being, and take 708 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: a little break from this, and I'll still do a 709 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: pod podcast, just do it, you know, off business hours, 710 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: do it from my house. And that's been really successful, 711 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: really well received, and I love the long form aspect 712 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: of it, and I'll get into that probably sometime here 713 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: this hour. So we got one hour left, and Jason 714 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,359 Speaker 1: Stewart's like, dude, dude, this is your radio life. So 715 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: I am kind of going out of chronological order a 716 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: little bit, and I'll I do want to explain why 717 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:34,399 Speaker 1: sports radio means so much to me. I think I'll 718 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: do it now. My dad died eleven years ago, and 719 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,439 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, like anyone's dad, I would think again, 720 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,479 Speaker 1: how I know is mine? He's complicated. There is things 721 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 1: that were great, there were things that weren't. But we 722 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 1: shared a love of sports, obviously basketball specifically, but my dad, 723 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: we love sports. We'd get up every morning and we 724 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 1: had the Orange County Register, the LA Times, Orange County. 725 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 1: He had the New York Post delivered to our house 726 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: even though it was three days late, and USA Today, 727 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: and then for that short period of time, wonderful time, 728 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: the National Sports Daily. Do you guys remember that? And 729 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: we'd have the newspapers out and we'd pass them around 730 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: and I would we'd look at box scores and talk sports. 731 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: That's what we did for breakfast and when we were 732 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 1: in the car, and then it became sports radio, and 733 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: uh to be on ESPN Radio and to hear the 734 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 1: pride in your father's voice is something that I can't 735 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 1: quite describe, but I think you all can hopefully understand, right, 736 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: hopefully understand. And it was it always amazing me because 737 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: my dad, he's that classic like Jewish parent where it 738 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 1: was like, well, maybe one day you'll have his show 739 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: as big as Collins, Like I have my own show on. 740 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: He has to me right like I'm doing okay, you know, 741 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: it was never quite enough, so there was always a hey, 742 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: that's great, but there's still more out there for you. 743 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: When I was at CBS Sports Radio, I took the 744 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: job two reasons. One I wanted to do the Final 745 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 1: Four and I wanted to move back to California. My 746 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: dad had had about with cancer, with skin cancer, and 747 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: I just I also thought I wanted to have a 748 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: life and I'll never forget. ESPN had offered me a 749 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: five year guaranteed contract worth way more like. It was 750 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,399 Speaker 1: really interesting how they do business. They tell you six 751 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: in the months in advance they want to reup you, 752 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: like three months in advance, they lowball you, and then 753 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 1: it comes down the last wire and finally they get 754 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: to the number that they should have got to originally. 755 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 1: So they got to the right number. There was just 756 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: some things missing in it that I didn't like, and 757 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:17,760 Speaker 1: then I would have had to I was at Foxwoods Casino. 758 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: I just a couple big casinos in Connecticut. Foxwoods is 759 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: the lesser known of the two, and husbands and wives, 760 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: and we all went out. The women were going to 761 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: a Sarah MacLachlan concert. The guys were just going to 762 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 1: go and throw the dice, have a good time. And 763 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: I'm walking around the casino with one of my buddies 764 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: and he was like, Man, coach your girls in soccer, 765 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 1: first time ever. That was awesome. You should do it 766 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: next year. And I was thinking to myself that I 767 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,919 Speaker 1: was doing four to seven radio and for five months 768 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: out of the year, I'd turn off the radio and 769 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: I'd walk down the hallway, I'd put on makeup and 770 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: a tie, and then I'd do TV until one in 771 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,359 Speaker 1: the morning. It was great money, but my kids were 772 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 1: going to school age and I would literally never see 773 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: them for five months, and I would never see there. 774 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be there in the afternoon for you know, 775 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: eleven months, twelve months of the year. So when I 776 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: took the CBS deal, the idea was it was twelve 777 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,760 Speaker 1: to three radio in California. I would do a nighttime 778 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: TV show at night to night, I'd have every afternoon 779 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: of my kids. Didn't work out as great as I 780 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: thought it would work out, and two years in they 781 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: moved me back to New York, where I did my show. 782 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: It was simulcast CBS Sports Network and CBS Radio, but 783 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 1: my dad was only live for those last I think 784 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 1: four months, and I was furious that they made me move. 785 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 1: I had the conversation with my boss, which I will 786 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: never forgive him for, was, Hey, could I just get 787 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,240 Speaker 1: six more months out here? It's not great. It spread 788 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 1: to his brain and my boss said, you're Our business 789 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 1: with you is in New York. We're giving you more 790 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: money to move to New York. But it ended up 791 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: being a blessed because my dad saw me every day 792 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: for those four months when I was on TV, and 793 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 1: then we talk on the way home every night except 794 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:17,720 Speaker 1: for the ninety past, and him seeing me reinstilled something 795 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 1: which I know to be true. Radio. Real talk radio 796 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 1: is a relationship. The people that are really good at it. 797 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: You know about their wives, their kids, their lives, what 798 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,360 Speaker 1: they do, what they do on the weekend, not just 799 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 1: sports stuff. And many of you have been with me 800 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: for this ride the whole time, and I appreciate you 801 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: and we are friends. We just have never met in person. 802 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: Like there's a kid from with state of Wisconsin who 803 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 1: I wanted really, really bad. He went to a powerful school, 804 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: powerful school, and I'm friends with the dad, but the 805 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: dad doesn't do We didn't know each other, but we 806 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 1: knew each other because he'd listen to me on there 807 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,359 Speaker 1: for years. We're still friends now. He turned us down, 808 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 1: went to a bigger school. It's all good, but it's 809 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: because radio is a relationship, and relationships are what business 810 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,959 Speaker 1: is about. You're never going to get in unless somebody 811 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,280 Speaker 1: sticks their neck out for you. You're just not plenty 812 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 1: of guys that can talk sports. When I was at 813 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,479 Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, I wanted to be on the Gym Rome Show, 814 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: but Rome was it was very sporadic. So on ESPN Radio, 815 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: the only show that would constantly book me was Todd 816 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: Right All Night. Todd Right all Night, and I was 817 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: the college basketball contributor. Todd's show was on overnight. It 818 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: was outstanding, and my first shot at national sports radio 819 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,359 Speaker 1: was my first year out of college. I was at 820 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 1: home in between things. Excuse me. It was after I 821 00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 1: played in Russia for a year and nine to eleven happened, 822 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,879 Speaker 1: and so everything got pushed back overseas and I got 823 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 1: to get a I got a call from our next 824 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 1: guest who invited me to come up to Bristol, Connecticut 825 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: and host Todd Wright's show for two nights because Todd 826 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 1: didn't want to fly to Bristol. And it was the 827 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 1: first weekend of sports being back after nine to eleven. 828 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: By the way, that first show, Dan Byer was the 829 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 1: day that Tom Brady had to play because Drew Bledsoe 830 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 1: got knocked out by the Jets. I was watching the 831 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 1: game at Sliders, which is a bar about two miles 832 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: from Bristol from ESPN, and all the Pats fans were 833 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: going Jets fans were going crazy. And on air that night, 834 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: this is mid November, Okay, mid November in two thousand 835 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: and one, I said, the Pats season is done because 836 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,879 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, who couldn't even win the job full time 837 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: at Michigan, is now their savior. Oops, thank god there 838 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: wasn't freezing code tech cold takes the goods. Yeah. The 839 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 1: woman who stuck her neck out for me was Todd 840 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 1: Wright's producer she became my producer, executive producer, my boss, 841 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: My work wife. Luis Cornetta joins us now on The 842 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Luis, how are you. 843 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,320 Speaker 10: Oh, that's Scottlieb, one of my favorite humans. I am great, 844 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 10: and I am enjoying reminiscing and hearing of the stories. 845 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 10: You have a better memory than I do, because I 846 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 10: forgot about the Tom Brady bit. You think I would 847 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 10: remember that, being a Bostonian, but yes, I remember. We 848 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,839 Speaker 10: wanted you to come and join us shortly after. You know, 849 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,320 Speaker 10: you were our college basketball expert for what you were playing, 850 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,840 Speaker 10: but you had bigger dreams and wanted to continue playing basketball. 851 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,879 Speaker 10: So off you went to Russia and other places, and 852 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 10: we were glad when you came back and you said, 853 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 10: I'm ready, And yes, we had you fill in, and 854 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,319 Speaker 10: wasn't long before we paired you with people like Chuck 855 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 10: Wilson and other veterans on ESPN Radio. But you were 856 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,959 Speaker 10: so good we had to give you your own show. 857 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 10: The Doug Gottlieb Show was born. 858 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't at first the Doug Gottlieb Show, remember, Okay, 859 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 1: So it was it was game night for three years, 860 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 1: three to six, and then it was The Pulse, and 861 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 1: the Pulse was that it was seven to ten at night, 862 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 1: seven to ten at night, and then it became The 863 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: Pulse with Doug Gottlieb, and then I believe it was 864 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,840 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, Scott mess Teller came to my 865 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 1: house and said, how'd you like to have the show 866 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 1: named after you and do four to seven? And I said, 867 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: let's do it, let's roll. 868 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:45,359 Speaker 7: Well. 869 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 10: I have some memories and I was thinking about you 870 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 10: a lot. And one of the memories I have is 871 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 10: there's a lot of qualities about you that I admire. 872 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,760 Speaker 10: One of them is your work ethic. You are certainly 873 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 10: the son of a coach because you were very coachable 874 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 10: on air. You listened and were eager to learn. But 875 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 10: I remember your work ethic being so strong that, like 876 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 10: you were saying, you would do radios then go to television. 877 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 10: But I remember Hayes being born. He was born during 878 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 10: March madness, right, and and you you know did you 879 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,880 Speaker 10: went to the hospital and then race to get to 880 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,360 Speaker 10: be on TV that night because you didn't want to 881 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 10: miss it. And that was you. You would, you would 882 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:33,320 Speaker 10: work yourself to the bone and Another quality I remember 883 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 10: about you that you still have is your fearlessness, and 884 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,279 Speaker 10: it is probably the quality I admire the most about you. 885 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 10: You were not afraid to ask the tough question. I 886 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 10: remember a very cantankerous interview with the late Tommy LASFORDA 887 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,799 Speaker 10: takes about in my mind. I don't remember what it 888 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 10: was about, but you were not afraid to ask the 889 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:59,399 Speaker 10: tough question where other people wouldn't. But also what controversy 890 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 10: would find you. You were not shy to say, hey, 891 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 10: here's what happened, let me explain you. Would you know, 892 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,360 Speaker 10: meet it head on? Most people would. 893 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 4: Try and hide. 894 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 10: Not you, And I think that's an incredibly admirable quality I. 895 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:17,319 Speaker 7: Get. 896 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 1: I got my favorite story, my favorite story. It's a 897 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 1: sales story. You guys ready for this one? This is 898 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 1: a good one. So the way it worked at ESPN 899 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,240 Speaker 1: when Louise would come in and she say, hey, sales 900 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 1: wants to know if you'll do a KFC KFC read uh, 901 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 1: And I said, I don't know, Louise. I'm doing I'm 902 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 1: doing this big P ninety X campaign. If I do KFC, 903 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if that works. And You're like, look, ads, 904 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 1: don't run back to back, I said, how about this. 905 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 1: KFC at the time had grilled chicken, so I said, 906 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 1: I'll do it. Can we do something about grilled chicken? Like, 907 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 1: I'll see what I can do. So that's like, I 908 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,399 Speaker 1: don't know. Three months later I get a script and 909 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,799 Speaker 1: basically it's like read this. So I read it, and 910 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 1: I'm doing the P ninety X campaign. And back then 911 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,319 Speaker 1: we had a screen with text messages. The text line right, 912 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 1: and I'll never forget. I'm at a break and we 913 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,879 Speaker 1: don't hear all the everything that's running. But apparently back 914 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 1: to back was the KFC ad which was for the 915 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,759 Speaker 1: double Down. Now, for people who don't remember the double Down, 916 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 1: the double down was a piece of fried chicken, another 917 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,760 Speaker 1: piece of fried chicken, two pieces of bacon and cheese, 918 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 1: and a breadless sandwich, which was a cardiologist dream. Okay, 919 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 1: but if you're on trying to do P ninety X 920 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 1: a nightmare and at the end sales must have gotten 921 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,799 Speaker 1: to put it or try it grilled like I like it, right, 922 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 1: And when I tell you, I got lit up on 923 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,759 Speaker 1: the text line from people call me a hypocrite and 924 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 1: whatever it was. And no, I did not leak the 925 00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,400 Speaker 1: P ninety X pictures to sports Brooks that did not happen. 926 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 1: They did not. Those were internal pictures that that that somebody, 927 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 1: somebody liked. Louise, we got to go as you know 928 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 1: where I'm always, I always, I do have clock issues constantly. 929 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:13,360 Speaker 11: Yes, okay, well then. 930 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,839 Speaker 10: I'm gonna up in thirty seconds quick. 931 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 3: That. 932 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,320 Speaker 10: The last thing I want to say is I remember 933 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 10: a pivotal one in your career with you would had 934 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 10: just become a dad and you were whether to be 935 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 10: like the cool young guy on the air or the dad. 936 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,880 Speaker 10: And I said, You've got to find out who your 937 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 10: authentic self is. 938 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 9: And you did. 939 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 10: You said I'm a dad and you went all in. 940 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 10: And I think because you just you figured out who 941 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,840 Speaker 10: your authentic self is that really have carried you well 942 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 10: on the air. And I am so proud of you 943 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 10: for being your authentic self and saying I want to coach, 944 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,400 Speaker 10: and you are following your dreams. 945 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,799 Speaker 3: Do what you do. 946 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,800 Speaker 1: Have shared this day with you, Louise. You mean the 947 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,839 Speaker 1: world to meet. You're following your dreams as well as 948 00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 1: you're singing and acting in Florida. And I saw your 949 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 1: show last year. It's awesome. It's with every ounce of 950 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 1: my soul. I thank you. I thank you. No no, no, no, 951 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 1: no no. You change my life forever. You know, yeah, 952 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,719 Speaker 1: you don't. You don't get to ESPN list. Somebody goes 953 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: in and says, hire this guy, and you and Keith 954 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 1: Krowski did it, and I appreciate it. 955 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:23,840 Speaker 10: You made me proud. 956 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 8: You always do. 957 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,399 Speaker 11: All right, we'll talk to my friend. 958 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,879 Speaker 1: All right, lovey Luis, thanks so much. Have you heard 959 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,319 Speaker 1: about trainer games? Add this to the binge list. Ten 960 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,239 Speaker 1: athletes go head to head for a chance to win 961 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,719 Speaker 1: an I Fit trainer contract, where two hundred and fifty 962 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 1: thousand dollars streaming on Prime Video starting January eighth. All right, 963 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,240 Speaker 1: coming up next, I'll keep it together. Coming up next, 964 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 1: there's Ramos gonna join us. All right, we'll talk some, Yeah, 965 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 1: we'll talk. We'll talk some Ramos, some Fox Sports Radio 966 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 1: plus my boy Adam Klug, who was my producer at 967 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 1: ESPN and for every year at CBS as well. I 968 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,879 Speaker 1: moved his family back and forth across the country two 969 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 1: different times. But a dear friend who's been with me 970 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:12,880 Speaker 1: for this journey. 971 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 4: This is the best of the Don dot Leap Show 972 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 4: on Fox Sports Radio. 973 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 1: Every Olympic dream starts with the first glide. Through learn 974 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,320 Speaker 1: to Skate USA, kids build confident strength and join the 975 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,400 Speaker 1: ice learns k USA programs skaters of all ages and abilities. 976 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 1: Find a program near you at learn to Skate usa 977 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:37,240 Speaker 1: dot com. So why why? Why stop doing this? Because 978 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 1: it's super fun? It really is, like I haven't actually worked. 979 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 1: I should do this all the time when I go 980 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,719 Speaker 1: and speak to little kids at camp, like, hey, how 981 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 1: many of you guys love sports? How many guys talk 982 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,720 Speaker 1: about sports? How many guys get paid to talk about sports? 983 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,319 Speaker 1: And I'm like the only one with my hand up, 984 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 1: you know it's step So why And I think something 985 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 1: that's more perception, right, Like the reality is my basketball 986 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,920 Speaker 1: team is better this year. And yeah, I've hired a 987 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,960 Speaker 1: personal assistant, I've done some things to adjust my schedule 988 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 1: a little bit. But can it be done? Of course 989 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,440 Speaker 1: it can be done. There's a little bit of that 990 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,480 Speaker 1: Chris Rock. You know, you can drive your feet your 991 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,560 Speaker 1: car with your foot, But that don't make it a 992 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,399 Speaker 1: good idea, right, so you can do it. Doesn't make 993 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 1: the bigger thing, though, is you gotta have a life, right, 994 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 1: You gotta have a life. And I'm still gonna be 995 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,480 Speaker 1: doing podcasts. I'll still be doing stuff. I don't know 996 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 1: what to do with myself when I you know, when 997 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 1: you're just sitting around at home and we have the 998 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,919 Speaker 1: podcast all set up, it's been doing well, and we'll 999 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 1: we'll adjust some things and you'll be able to see 1000 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,719 Speaker 1: it on YouTube as well. But the point is that 1001 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 1: live sports radio is an incredible passion of mine. But 1002 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 1: my dream has always been to be a head coach 1003 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:59,120 Speaker 1: Division Ben men's basketball, and I don't want I don't 1004 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,400 Speaker 1: want to. Haven't got this opportunity to look back and go, 1005 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,520 Speaker 1: you know what if in year two I hadn't taken 1006 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,279 Speaker 1: a shot at seeing what it's like to not do 1007 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 1: a live show every day. I'll tell you there's a 1008 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:15,279 Speaker 1: guy who we used to work with who walked away 1009 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,759 Speaker 1: from this place, and he did so because he wanted 1010 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,239 Speaker 1: to coach. He also wanted to see I think his 1011 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,719 Speaker 1: daughter and son go to high school and be kind 1012 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 1: of a part of that process. And when you work, 1013 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,520 Speaker 1: especially when you're in production in sports radio, you work 1014 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,479 Speaker 1: a lot. You do a lot more than on air talent. 1015 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,839 Speaker 1: Does you make less money, You work way harder, You're 1016 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,640 Speaker 1: way more important. John Ramos is that guy. He's also 1017 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,800 Speaker 1: he walked away from Fox Sports Radio to work at 1018 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 1: his daughter's high school, but also coach softball, and he's 1019 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 1: coached baseball for his son as well. Just I want 1020 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,239 Speaker 1: to be a dad, Ramos. How are you? 1021 00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 8: I'm good, Doug. 1022 00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:58,959 Speaker 12: How are you doing? 1023 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,359 Speaker 1: I'm good. We won a game the other night, got 1024 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 1: a little chance, got it. That's some recruiting, got some sunshine. 1025 00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,280 Speaker 1: Headed back for one more game, here for a break? 1026 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:08,600 Speaker 1: All good, all good? 1027 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,800 Speaker 12: Yes, yes. By the way, it's hard to follow somebody 1028 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,839 Speaker 12: who's who you tell them that you change their lives. 1029 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:14,960 Speaker 3: So. 1030 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 12: Trying to follow that person like you changed my life 1031 00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 12: and that's John Ramos. 1032 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 1: So sorry, sorry about that, wrong Ramos, if you changed 1033 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,720 Speaker 1: my life as well? Ramos. There you go, There you go, 1034 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,879 Speaker 1: there you go all part of the promos. Uh yeah. 1035 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,759 Speaker 1: The best part about Ramos is and it's something that 1036 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:40,239 Speaker 1: I've come to try and do even in my job now. 1037 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,920 Speaker 1: And it's different when it's negative ten outside and we 1038 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,839 Speaker 1: lost a lot of games last year. I've never I 1039 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,920 Speaker 1: never saw you in a bad mood. How How how 1040 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,799 Speaker 1: did you maintain that level of joy? 1041 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 12: I don't know. You know what's funny is even here 1042 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,600 Speaker 12: at the high school. The teacher will go by and 1043 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 12: be like, you're always so happy. Why is that? Like, 1044 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 12: I don't know. I think it's just the way I am. 1045 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,600 Speaker 12: I've always been that way since I was a kid. 1046 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,880 Speaker 12: Never really had anything to be angry about. So I 1047 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 12: enjoyed doing radio for all the years I did it. 1048 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,719 Speaker 12: I enjoy being here at the high school around the 1049 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 12: students and coaching softball, which this year I'm moving up 1050 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,680 Speaker 12: to varsity assistant. Should be proud of me, Dug. I 1051 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 12: moved up from jav Divarsity assistant this year, coming up 1052 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:24,920 Speaker 12: and guess what I'm teaching broadcasting and media and stuff 1053 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,160 Speaker 12: and so today, so students gave me a plaque and 1054 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,720 Speaker 12: stuff like that teacher and stuff. So it's been really great, 1055 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,680 Speaker 12: and I know for you it's going to be wonderful 1056 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 12: as well. 1057 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,720 Speaker 2: Does that plaque say sleepy John Ramos on it at 1058 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:40,320 Speaker 2: the White House? 1059 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 12: It does wake up. 1060 00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 1: Johnn You know why we had you on right. 1061 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,120 Speaker 12: Because you thought I was one of the greatest techo 1062 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:53,400 Speaker 12: directors you've ever had. 1063 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure that, and because we all just your laugh 1064 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:57,960 Speaker 1: is infectious. 1065 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,640 Speaker 8: It's literally right, just a little bit. 1066 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,440 Speaker 1: Of not a little bit a lot, okay, a lot, 1067 00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:07,760 Speaker 1: a lot. 1068 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 12: They get it here, but it's during lunchtime and nobody 1069 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:11,600 Speaker 12: can hear it. 1070 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 1: O nobody. 1071 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,680 Speaker 2: You know, there's been a lot of great things said 1072 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:19,080 Speaker 2: about Doug in this last ninety minutes or so. I 1073 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 2: think John can attest to this. When someone says like 1074 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,280 Speaker 2: Doug will take the shirt off his back for you, 1075 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,400 Speaker 2: it's true because it actually happened with John Ramos one 1076 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 2: time you wore a NIKEO. 1077 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 1: Do you still have it? 1078 00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 8: John, I still have that shirt. 1079 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 7: Dog. 1080 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:36,320 Speaker 11: Every time I put it on, I Mike. 1081 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,320 Speaker 12: I hope I can't take a picture with it because 1082 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,880 Speaker 12: Doug will be like, hey, that's the shirt I gave wrong. 1083 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:41,640 Speaker 3: Do you remember this? 1084 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 2: You were wearing a Nike Polo. John goes, I like 1085 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 2: that shirt, and I don't know what happened, but you 1086 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,840 Speaker 2: just took it off and gave it to him. Yes, 1087 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,240 Speaker 2: literally took the shirt off your back. Yeah. 1088 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,919 Speaker 1: No't just say it. Live it. Don't just say John 1089 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,160 Speaker 1: Worth the next day without washing it as well. It 1090 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:06,680 Speaker 1: was crazy, John. One last thing walking away from radio 1091 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 1: to pursue coaching Worth. 1092 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:15,240 Speaker 12: It You know I miss I missed radio a lot, 1093 00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,120 Speaker 12: I really do. It was my life, my career for 1094 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:18,840 Speaker 12: thirty years. 1095 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:20,680 Speaker 9: It just was so much fun. 1096 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,600 Speaker 12: I just heard you say it doesn't even feel like 1097 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:26,280 Speaker 12: you're working. It doesn't. And so yes, I do miss it, 1098 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 12: but I enjoy where I'm at right now. I enjoy coaching. 1099 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 12: I enjoy just like you're gonna. We're already doing it, 1100 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,680 Speaker 12: but just gonna kind of pull that one hundred percent 1101 00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,920 Speaker 12: into it. And I think the boys or the growing 1102 00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:39,840 Speaker 12: young adults, however you want to call them in college, 1103 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,640 Speaker 12: it's going to advance from you for that. 1104 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,960 Speaker 1: So promise you the best. We love you here, we 1105 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 1: miss you. I truly appreciate all those times of making 1106 00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 1: us just feel good when it wasn't always a great day. 1107 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 1: You're the best man. 1108 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,080 Speaker 12: Thanks mar Doug, thank you for those eight years. Man, 1109 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,280 Speaker 12: it was great. And just keep up the great work. 1110 00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 12: I'm going to keep following you do on Instagram and 1111 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,240 Speaker 12: all these different social media places and and I can't 1112 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,400 Speaker 12: wait to see you guys get into the NCAA tournament 1113 01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 12: at some point you from. 1114 01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Your lips to God's ears. Not breaking news, not official, 1115 01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 1: but we're bringing the bringing the Phoenix back to southern 1116 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:13,480 Speaker 1: California next next year. 1117 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,920 Speaker 8: Thanks so much, John, Okay, Doug A good one. 1118 01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,360 Speaker 1: Doug gotlib show here on Fox Sports Radio. This show 1119 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:22,840 Speaker 1: has been in three different networks, and my producer my 1120 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:27,400 Speaker 1: final year at ESPN eventually joined me at CBS Sports 1121 01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,760 Speaker 1: Radio for all five years We're there. H He now 1122 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:34,360 Speaker 1: runs a radio station in San Diego, the Padres Radio 1123 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,120 Speaker 1: Station in San Diego. His name's Adam Klug. He joins 1124 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,840 Speaker 1: us now here on Fox Sports Radio. Cleugar, how are you? 1125 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:41,480 Speaker 11: I'm doing great? Dog? 1126 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:42,040 Speaker 3: How are you? 1127 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm good? I mean, you know, I'm getting nostalgic one 1128 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,360 Speaker 1: because I'm old, and too because I'm I'm not going 1129 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,000 Speaker 1: to be doing live Afternoon Drive, which you know you 1130 01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,880 Speaker 1: and I did together for for for six hours and 1131 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:58,040 Speaker 1: took so seriously. I think what's most interesting is like 1132 01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:02,720 Speaker 1: Jason Wooden, he actually has no idea about how my 1133 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,680 Speaker 1: approach has changed and how differently he and I worked together, 1134 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,560 Speaker 1: as opposed to you and I work together in setting 1135 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:13,320 Speaker 1: up topics. So Jason basically lays out the topics and 1136 01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,600 Speaker 1: I just kind of go with it. I trust him. 1137 01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,440 Speaker 1: He's got good instincts. He knows and not that you don't, 1138 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 1: but you used to pitch him to me and guys, 1139 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm telling you we had knockdown, drag him out arguments. 1140 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:27,600 Speaker 5: Do we not? 1141 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:29,600 Speaker 8: We We absolutely did. 1142 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,360 Speaker 11: Those are some of the most fun times though, Like 1143 01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,520 Speaker 11: you know, anytime we would get into it and like look, 1144 01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,560 Speaker 11: we would get heated sometimes and I owners remind myself, 1145 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,880 Speaker 11: like this, like this is our job, right, We're just discussing, 1146 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,760 Speaker 11: like what kind of sports to talk about on the radio, 1147 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,000 Speaker 11: Like what could be better than that? 1148 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,280 Speaker 1: And I'm going to apologize for the line that it 1149 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:54,160 Speaker 1: was probably once a year I would say the line, 1150 01:01:53,760 --> 01:02:00,320 Speaker 1: it's correct? Is that the is that the due? Just 1151 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,360 Speaker 1: think you could say a lot of time, No, that's 1152 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,720 Speaker 1: not what we should do. We should do this. That's clearger. 1153 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,640 Speaker 1: We should do this and here's why. And there's were 1154 01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,520 Speaker 1: good talking about what and I said, that's great. But 1155 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:11,840 Speaker 1: you know what the show is called. You're like, no, 1156 01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,000 Speaker 1: what's the show called? 1157 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:17,200 Speaker 4: This is the Doug Gottlieb Show Box Sports Dad, right. 1158 01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:17,400 Speaker 3: It is? 1159 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:21,360 Speaker 1: That dog forgot it? So how you doing? 1160 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 11: Man, I'm doing I'm doing great. I'm following you from 1161 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,600 Speaker 11: Afar and you know, I know that you've been getting 1162 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:32,040 Speaker 11: nostalgic and I know that you're you know, I'm not 1163 01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,200 Speaker 11: going to say quitting the national radio scene. I'm going 1164 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,760 Speaker 11: to say putting it on pause, because you know, you've 1165 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,000 Speaker 11: had such a tremendous career and I'm sure. 1166 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,280 Speaker 7: One day you'll be doing it again. 1167 01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:42,800 Speaker 11: But I just got to say that I am so 1168 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,600 Speaker 11: thrilled that you've got this opportunity to chase your dreams 1169 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,360 Speaker 11: and become a college basketball coach. I kind of went 1170 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 11: through the peaks and valley to highs and lows with you, 1171 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,680 Speaker 11: and there were some times back when I worked with you, 1172 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:55,760 Speaker 11: I was like, man, is he is he leaving me 1173 01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,280 Speaker 11: high and dry here? And you know, going to to 1174 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,040 Speaker 11: become a coach at various states and you know they 1175 01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,920 Speaker 11: didn't come to fruition, But certainly glad that you got 1176 01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:04,720 Speaker 11: this opportunity. 1177 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,480 Speaker 1: Think about we've been friends long enough. You were a 1178 01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:13,240 Speaker 1: long suffering Atlanta Falcons, Georgia Dog, Georgia Bulldog sports. 1179 01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:14,960 Speaker 11: Fans still long suffering Falcons? 1180 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:18,160 Speaker 1: Yes, fine, Okay, Braves have won a World Series, Dogs 1181 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,320 Speaker 1: won two national championships, might well win the third? 1182 01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:22,480 Speaker 8: Correct? 1183 01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,360 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on their chances this year? 1184 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,080 Speaker 11: I think that George's got as good a chance as 1185 01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,800 Speaker 11: any other team in the college football playoff, Right, Like 1186 01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,040 Speaker 11: I don't think. I don't think this Georgia team is 1187 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,080 Speaker 11: as good as the ones that won the national title. 1188 01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,960 Speaker 11: And I don't really think there's any dominant team. I 1189 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,360 Speaker 11: think people may have thought Ohio State was that team, 1190 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,720 Speaker 11: but I don't think that they are. And so I 1191 01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,880 Speaker 11: think that it's a wide open field. Georgia gets to 1192 01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,760 Speaker 11: get to experience the first round by and I think 1193 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:51,040 Speaker 11: that God's good as show as anybody. 1194 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:52,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it used to be. Listen, it used to 1195 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,920 Speaker 1: be a yearly thing, guys where I mean the worst 1196 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,160 Speaker 1: was the super Bowl? Right that was That was the 1197 01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,000 Speaker 1: lowest of I think that was lower than any other point. 1198 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,800 Speaker 11: We did the show, the Doug Gottlieb Show in Houston 1199 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,520 Speaker 11: for a full week when the Falcons were in the 1200 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,200 Speaker 11: Super Bowl facing the Patriots. And I'm born and raised 1201 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,440 Speaker 11: in Atlanta, and so I did everything. I tried all 1202 01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,360 Speaker 11: I could, pulled all the strings I could to try 1203 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 11: and stay for the game, because you know, the job 1204 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,040 Speaker 11: work paid for us to be out there Monday through 1205 01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,960 Speaker 11: Friday and then the plane right home Friday after we 1206 01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:24,720 Speaker 11: were done at Radio Row. So I was like, I 1207 01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:26,800 Speaker 11: gotta change my flight. I got to try and book 1208 01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,439 Speaker 11: additional hotel night and it's not cheap. 1209 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:29,560 Speaker 3: You know. 1210 01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:30,960 Speaker 11: The week of the Super Bowl, I got to find 1211 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:32,560 Speaker 11: a ticket into the game, and it was going to 1212 01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,040 Speaker 11: cost me a lot, an arm and a leg, and 1213 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,240 Speaker 11: I decided, you know what, I'm just not going to 1214 01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,280 Speaker 11: do this. I'm going to go home and make sure 1215 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,080 Speaker 11: that we're all buttoned up and ready to be. You know, 1216 01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,080 Speaker 11: the Monday after the Super Bowl is a huge day 1217 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,479 Speaker 11: in sports talk ratios. I'm gonna make sure we're dialed 1218 01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,800 Speaker 11: in and ready to go. And boy, was that one 1219 01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,000 Speaker 11: of the worst, you know, the worst sporting event I've 1220 01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,440 Speaker 11: ever watched as a fan. And I can't even imagine 1221 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,120 Speaker 11: if I would have dropped out whatever it was five 1222 01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,360 Speaker 11: or ten grand to stay for that game and experience that. 1223 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 1: My lord, yeah, you might have left because you're you're 1224 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,200 Speaker 1: a leave early guy too. You might have left when 1225 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,640 Speaker 1: when the when the game was game was twenty twenty eight, 1226 01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:03,600 Speaker 1: twenty eight to three. 1227 01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 11: I am a leave early guy. And I kept telling 1228 01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:07,640 Speaker 11: my wife of like, we got this, We're gonna wait, 1229 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,240 Speaker 11: We're gonna wait. You like, Adam, you're in Atlanta, sports fan, 1230 01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,919 Speaker 11: you can't say that you know you've seen this before. 1231 01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,120 Speaker 11: I go, no, no, this time is going to be different. 1232 01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:17,480 Speaker 11: She like Adam, and she ended up being right. 1233 01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:18,320 Speaker 3: It was not different. 1234 01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:21,840 Speaker 1: I know everybody in this room is good at what 1235 01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:25,919 Speaker 1: we do. Me and you together at super Bowls five 1236 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,840 Speaker 1: years in a row was magical because you would be 1237 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,240 Speaker 1: tracking people down. Brett Favre stopped what he was doing 1238 01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,120 Speaker 1: and was leaving and came back in to do to 1239 01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:39,919 Speaker 1: give us probably a half hour offset, and the two 1240 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,120 Speaker 1: of us working together where you'd set them up and 1241 01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,600 Speaker 1: I'd knock him down and wouldn't know Who's coming up next, 1242 01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,720 Speaker 1: and still understand how to carry on a conversation and 1243 01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:52,760 Speaker 1: do these unbelievable interviews. It's the best we've ever been. 1244 01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,480 Speaker 11: I felt like I was in my element at Radio Row. 1245 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,720 Speaker 11: And it's funny because I was giving the spot when 1246 01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,640 Speaker 11: you know, when Jason reached out tap me on, I 1247 01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,800 Speaker 11: would saying thinking about kind of some of our highlights 1248 01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,360 Speaker 11: in one of in terms of the interviews and that 1249 01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:08,520 Speaker 11: Radio Row in Houston. Do you remember who our final 1250 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:10,360 Speaker 11: guest was of the entire week? 1251 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:11,600 Speaker 1: I don't. 1252 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:12,840 Speaker 3: So. 1253 01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,440 Speaker 11: The Falcons are in the Super Bowl that week against 1254 01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,840 Speaker 11: the Patriots. We had Ark, We had Arthur Blank, the 1255 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,360 Speaker 11: owner of the Falcons booked, and so the owner of 1256 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:22,800 Speaker 11: one of the teams in the Super Bowl. That's a 1257 01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:24,320 Speaker 11: that's a great interview, right. I mean he was at 1258 01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,440 Speaker 11: Radio Row, but we had him and so he was 1259 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,760 Speaker 11: on with you. We had the big stage because the 1260 01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 11: show was on TV simulcast and all that stuff, So 1261 01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:33,560 Speaker 11: we had the big lights in the stage, and you're 1262 01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:36,320 Speaker 11: talking to the owner of the Falcons, Arthur Blank. And 1263 01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:38,560 Speaker 11: I look over and there's like a crowd of people 1264 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,320 Speaker 11: kind of leaning on the stage. And I look over, 1265 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,440 Speaker 11: and who's leaning on the stage. I assume you remember this, 1266 01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:49,080 Speaker 11: Mike Vick. Michael Vick is leaning on our stage. And 1267 01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,960 Speaker 11: I take my head set off. I jumped down from 1268 01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:53,800 Speaker 11: the little table I was at and I run over. 1269 01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:55,720 Speaker 11: I kind of grabbed his arm and I pulled him 1270 01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 11: up on the stage and walked him over in the 1271 01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,280 Speaker 11: middle of you talking to Arthur Blank, like, here go 1272 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,600 Speaker 11: former Falcons, you know, franchise quarterback. And obviously this is 1273 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 11: well after his arrest and incarceration and out of jail 1274 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:08,640 Speaker 11: and al there's time of the Eagles and it's like, 1275 01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:10,960 Speaker 11: here's the Falcons in the Super Bowl, and here's the 1276 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,280 Speaker 11: owner of the Falcons, Arthur Blank and Mike Vick on 1277 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:14,400 Speaker 11: The Doug Gottlieb Show. 1278 01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:15,760 Speaker 1: Pretty awesome. 1279 01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:17,640 Speaker 11: It was amazing. 1280 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:19,840 Speaker 1: Hey man, you were great at it. You're great to me. 1281 01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:24,320 Speaker 1: We were an awesome team. Maybe maybe together again someday soon. 1282 01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,200 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, Go Dogs, Go Phoenix. Rooting for 1283 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,800 Speaker 1: your boys in the in the playoffs. I'm you know, 1284 01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:33,920 Speaker 1: I've become a Georgia Bulldog fan. Loved your family. Happy 1285 01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:35,360 Speaker 1: Hanukah to you. Let's talk soon. 1286 01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,040 Speaker 11: Thank you, Doug. Same to you, and I love you 1287 01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,000 Speaker 11: so much and I wish nothing but the best for you. 1288 01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,400 Speaker 1: Look, you're the best, man. Have a go one. Doug 1289 01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,840 Speaker 1: Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. I forget which one 1290 01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to read. What do I owe you? Okay, 1291 01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:51,920 Speaker 1: we're all good. We're all good. I got a lot 1292 01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,280 Speaker 1: of people to think, but most of the guys in 1293 01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:54,520 Speaker 1: this room. That's coming up next. 1294 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:56,960 Speaker 4: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb 1295 01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:00,560 Speaker 4: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox 1296 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,160 Speaker 4: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 1297 01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:07,600 Speaker 1: Snug Otley The Show here on Fox Sports Radio. My 1298 01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:13,880 Speaker 1: absolute favorite Christmas song, part of it is my mom 1299 01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:18,320 Speaker 1: Jane in Orange California, who listens to all of my shows, 1300 01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,320 Speaker 1: loves that King Cole. Also Johnny Mathis is her favorite. 1301 01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:25,680 Speaker 1: But my dad used to love that King Cole. So 1302 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,000 Speaker 1: if you're just joining us my last show on Fox 1303 01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,439 Speaker 1: Sports Radio and the live radio feed, of course, you 1304 01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:35,680 Speaker 1: can download my podcast All Ball. That's where all the 1305 01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:37,479 Speaker 1: content will go. So if you already have a subscription 1306 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,840 Speaker 1: for you, it'll still work, and if not, download it 1307 01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:45,880 Speaker 1: wherever you download podcasts. I've worked here for eight years. 1308 01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,280 Speaker 1: Dan Byer's been here all eight of those years and 1309 01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:57,040 Speaker 1: probably ninety of the shows, and we today it's streamed 1310 01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:00,840 Speaker 1: live on YouTube, but we've since I moved to Green Bay, 1311 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,080 Speaker 1: we have a zoom which you know could have been 1312 01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,120 Speaker 1: a livestream as well. And I told him this off air, 1313 01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,519 Speaker 1: and I'll tell hi an on air. Dan's like a 1314 01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:13,639 Speaker 1: calming influence on me. Right, He's so solid, so prepared, 1315 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,600 Speaker 1: so knowledgeable, and just he has that calming kind of 1316 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:21,000 Speaker 1: voice that honestly, when we when I press the zoom 1317 01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,400 Speaker 1: button and I can see him, I just I feel 1318 01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:27,040 Speaker 1: automatically better about the day in sports radio because I 1319 01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:30,760 Speaker 1: know that if I screw something up, he'll know it. 1320 01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,439 Speaker 1: If there's a fact that I need. He knows it, 1321 01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:39,200 Speaker 1: and he also is not afraid to speak his mind, 1322 01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:43,519 Speaker 1: and that's what this is supposed to be about. So 1323 01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what the future of this portion. I 1324 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:51,759 Speaker 1: don't have control over that, but I can tell anybody 1325 01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:55,000 Speaker 1: who's listening, including our bosses, if there's any ever somebody 1326 01:09:55,040 --> 01:10:01,880 Speaker 1: who deserves an opportunity to have a weekday show, it 1327 01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:06,600 Speaker 1: is you, Danbyer, because you treat people well, that's important, 1328 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:09,760 Speaker 1: but also you're prepared, you have an opinion, and you 1329 01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:15,320 Speaker 1: just have a great way of speaking in your intonation 1330 01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,519 Speaker 1: of your voice, the pacing of it, all of those 1331 01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,040 Speaker 1: things they just work. And I truly appreciate our time 1332 01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:20,880 Speaker 1: with the last eight years. 1333 01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,360 Speaker 2: Well I've appreciated, and it's very kind of you to 1334 01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,880 Speaker 2: say the eight years have gone by. I remember meeting 1335 01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:28,920 Speaker 2: you in the courtyard, but it wasn't the first time 1336 01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,040 Speaker 2: that I met you. Have told this story before. It 1337 01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:32,960 Speaker 2: was when you were doing the Great Outdoor Games for 1338 01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:35,599 Speaker 2: ESPR in two thousand and four and I was working 1339 01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:39,400 Speaker 2: at an iheartstation in Madison. We were an ESPN affiliate 1340 01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:41,880 Speaker 2: at that time. You were with ESPN and you came 1341 01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,880 Speaker 2: over and we just chatted us up, and so I 1342 01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,599 Speaker 2: always had this impression of man, Doug Gottlieb's a good guy, 1343 01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,559 Speaker 2: just comes over shoots the bull. Never would have thought 1344 01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,720 Speaker 2: that thirteen, fourteen years later, whatever it would be, that 1345 01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:57,160 Speaker 2: we would form an eight year relationship, but travels here, 1346 01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:00,719 Speaker 2: there and everywhere, teeing it up. It's been an honor, 1347 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:02,880 Speaker 2: been an honor to share the microphone with you for 1348 01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:03,559 Speaker 2: these eight years. 1349 01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,320 Speaker 1: Sank Sammy you have You've probably been with us the 1350 01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:08,040 Speaker 1: least amount of time, but you are a resident Cliff 1351 01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:13,040 Speaker 1: Craven and you're You're colorful, and I've also your love 1352 01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:16,360 Speaker 1: and knowledge of college football. It like tickles the heart 1353 01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:18,520 Speaker 1: of me and Dan, especially because you're out here in California, 1354 01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:20,120 Speaker 1: you know where people don't care as much. 1355 01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:23,040 Speaker 13: You know what's funny is I actually got I got 1356 01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,360 Speaker 13: here to Fox Sports Radio. It'll be ten years in May, 1357 01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:27,160 Speaker 13: but I got here like right before you did. But 1358 01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:30,120 Speaker 13: I worked with you a lot on filling basis, and 1359 01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:33,200 Speaker 13: it was always like, uh, I gotta work with Doug. 1360 01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:34,719 Speaker 1: He's gonna keep me on my toes. 1361 01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,200 Speaker 13: You sharpened me. You sharpened me as a tech producer 1362 01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,560 Speaker 13: because be throwed to update throw this sound throw to 1363 01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,960 Speaker 13: that and you really got to be ready. But I 1364 01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,400 Speaker 13: want to say that maybe I say you're about fifteen, 1365 01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:46,920 Speaker 13: maybe even twenty years ago. I saw you on TV 1366 01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:49,600 Speaker 13: and I'm like, who is this Doug Gottlieb. He's a 1367 01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,519 Speaker 13: smart ass. He's like he's really really hard on teams. 1368 01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,639 Speaker 13: Maybe Steve Alford was coaching IOWA and I remember seeing 1369 01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:56,960 Speaker 13: you on TV and I'm like, I don't know if 1370 01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,040 Speaker 13: I like this guy. I never thought I would be 1371 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:02,559 Speaker 13: working with you all these years later. So it's been 1372 01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,800 Speaker 13: an experience, I'll tell you that. And we have, Phil, 1373 01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:07,479 Speaker 13: I have worked with you off and on for like 1374 01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:09,000 Speaker 13: the last eight years. How long have you been here 1375 01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,000 Speaker 13: in the last two and a half two years or 1376 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:14,680 Speaker 13: so full time? But we'll miss you, Doug, and we'll 1377 01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,040 Speaker 13: miss all the crazy highjinks on the show. 1378 01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,880 Speaker 1: And now I grew up listening to Rome and Jacedu 1379 01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,240 Speaker 1: was part of Rome, so we've known each other forever 1380 01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,800 Speaker 1: and I begged him to join us a couple of 1381 01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,800 Speaker 1: years before he ultimately join us. Jaced You've been awesome, man. 1382 01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,320 Speaker 5: Well I appreciate it back at you and I did well. 1383 01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:35,080 Speaker 5: You told the story earlier in the show, but soon 1384 01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,160 Speaker 5: after Will Hancock had reached out to me and said this, 1385 01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:42,360 Speaker 5: Doug Gottlieb wants to be your college basketball correspondent. I 1386 01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:43,800 Speaker 5: got a phone call in my office one day. I 1387 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:45,519 Speaker 5: don't know if I arranged it or if you just 1388 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:46,960 Speaker 5: felt the need to call it to sell me a 1389 01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:48,759 Speaker 5: little bit more. And I talked to it. Was nineteen 1390 01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:54,400 Speaker 5: ninety nine, November nineteen ninety nine. Maybe flash forward twenty 1391 01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:57,519 Speaker 5: two years. We're in the middle of the pandemic. Scott 1392 01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,240 Speaker 5: Shapiro calls me and says, Doug wants you to who's 1393 01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:04,519 Speaker 5: this radio show? This business is full circle, full cycle. 1394 01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,000 Speaker 5: And I appreciate everything that you've done for me in 1395 01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:09,879 Speaker 5: my career, and I appreciate our friendship. 1396 01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:14,840 Speaker 1: Thanks Jay, to those of you who listened for the 1397 01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:26,120 Speaker 1: last twenty three years. You've been moving through basketball, different jobs, marriage, kids, divorce, 1398 01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:30,960 Speaker 1: now coaching. I appreciate your radio's relationship. Consider me your friend. 1399 01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:33,479 Speaker 1: If I said something to piss you off, is just 1400 01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,120 Speaker 1: because I thought your sports team of your player wasn't 1401 01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,840 Speaker 1: as good as some other sports teamer player. It was 1402 01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:43,960 Speaker 1: for the most part and never personal. And it's a 1403 01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:49,160 Speaker 1: pleasure you zoom out of your life and I'm not 1404 01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:55,120 Speaker 1: yet fifty. I always dreamed of being on TV playing basketball. 1405 01:13:55,439 --> 01:14:00,240 Speaker 1: I did that. I always dreamed of doing this talking 1406 01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:04,559 Speaker 1: about sports. And I've always dreamed about being a Division 1407 01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:09,280 Speaker 1: one men's head basketball coach. And you know, I don't 1408 01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:10,960 Speaker 1: know if this clears up more time to have a 1409 01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:18,360 Speaker 1: better life. I've worked Christmases, Thanksgivings, any holiday, anytime. I'm 1410 01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:21,360 Speaker 1: an never say no. Guy can't say you want something 1411 01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:23,439 Speaker 1: and go well, I want it on my time. Doesn't 1412 01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:28,160 Speaker 1: work that way. Doesn't work that way. But to the 1413 01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:31,160 Speaker 1: people at iHeart to Scott Shapiro and Don Martin who 1414 01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:35,280 Speaker 1: brought me over here, I appreciate you. Thank you. To 1415 01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,840 Speaker 1: Chris Olivero at CBS Sports Radio, I thank you. I 1416 01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,600 Speaker 1: appreciate you. To Luis Cornetta, to Bruce Gilbert, who is 1417 01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:45,640 Speaker 1: then at ESPN Radio, I appreciate you. And to my 1418 01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,599 Speaker 1: kids that I missed a lot of stuff, but you've 1419 01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,479 Speaker 1: got a lot of stuff because I got all this 1420 01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:55,479 Speaker 1: time on sports radio. Try and be a better man, 1421 01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:57,960 Speaker 1: try and be a better dad, and I'll try and 1422 01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:01,320 Speaker 1: be a better coach. It's not goodbye forever. You can 1423 01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,719 Speaker 1: still check out the podcast, but for now it's bidding. 1424 01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,639 Speaker 1: I do Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukah. This is the Doug 1425 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:07,280 Speaker 1: Outlieb Show.