WEBVTT - Explaining Shelter In Place.  Sgt. Ray Kelly Talks to Armstrong & Getty

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<v Speaker 1>This morning, the US is inching closer to a coronavirus

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<v Speaker 1>shutdown across the board. Seven million residents in the San

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<v Speaker 1>Francisco Bay Area have, in order to shelter in place,

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<v Speaker 1>only allowed to leave their homes for essential reasons. It

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<v Speaker 1>is the nation's strictest measures so far. Is that a

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<v Speaker 1>suggestion or a lot you get a fine? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what happens there. Also, if you live in the

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<v Speaker 1>Bay Area, you probably know this. If you don't, it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably coming to you soon. This whole you gotta stay

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<v Speaker 1>home routine. I absolutely think that in the dense or

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<v Speaker 1>more densely populating parts of the country, it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of days before everybody's hearing something like this. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be like Italy and Germany and France and everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>else South Korea. Alameda Contra Costi, Contra costum or in

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Clara, San Francisco, San Mateo, and Santa Cruz County

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<v Speaker 1>so far appear to be a most aggressive public response

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<v Speaker 1>to coronavirus anywhere in the US so far, and from

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<v Speaker 1>Alameda County. Sergeant Ray Kelly joins us raised, the public

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<v Speaker 1>Information officer for the Alameda Sheriff's Office, Sergeant Kelly, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you, sir? Oh, good morning. I got about five

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<v Speaker 1>hours sleep, but I'm ready to roll back at it again.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been it's been a roller coaster of of a week,

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<v Speaker 1>to say the least. Right. I have friends in law

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement who say that things are changing by the half hour,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody's just scrambling to figure out what's what. So

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<v Speaker 1>how would you characterize the shelter in place order? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's there are a plenty of exceptions. Nobody's going to

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<v Speaker 1>get their head cracked for leaving their house. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you have to say? Well, okay, what do you have

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<v Speaker 1>to say to the citizens of the Bay area so

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<v Speaker 1>that you know that that's a great question. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting asked all sorts of questions. I got people calling

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<v Speaker 1>me and asking me, even friends and family, Hey can

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<v Speaker 1>I go for a walk? Can I go do this?

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<v Speaker 1>So what people are being asked to do is if

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing non essential things. If you're not, uh, have

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<v Speaker 1>a reason to go and do whatever activity is in

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<v Speaker 1>the health order, Um, we're asking you not to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>The most important thing is large groups and situations where

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<v Speaker 1>people don't need to interact because they don't serve in

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<v Speaker 1>essential function that they stay home and that they practice

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<v Speaker 1>the physical social distancing. Um that's been asked to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Use use the word asked twice? Are you asking people?

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<v Speaker 1>Are telling people, well, this is it is a law.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a misdemeanor violation of the Health and Safety Code

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<v Speaker 1>to to violate it. But the issue is is we're

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<v Speaker 1>not looking to fill up our jails with with a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of citizens that violated, you know, the law. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's the spirit of the law and the letter

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<v Speaker 1>of the law. You know, we as a society have

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<v Speaker 1>social norms and people do what is socially normal. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're we know that the majority of our citizens here

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<v Speaker 1>in the Bay Area are going to do the right thing,

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<v Speaker 1>that they're going to follow the guideline, and that other

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<v Speaker 1>people are gonna show each other what is socially acceptable.

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<v Speaker 1>So for example, you know, three weeks ago, four weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>we shook each other's hands. Now we see people not

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<v Speaker 1>shaking each other's hands. That's not socially acceptable because people

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<v Speaker 1>are concerned about their health and so, um, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a way of kind of policing ourselves as a society

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<v Speaker 1>and telling each other, what's good, what's right, what's wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>So in that regard, I think we will all help

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<v Speaker 1>each other do the right thing. And so, uh, this

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<v Speaker 1>notion or this mindset that's that some people have that

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<v Speaker 1>the police are going to be out there just looking

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<v Speaker 1>for you to violate the rules, that's not the case.

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<v Speaker 1>We're really we really know and truly believe that people

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<v Speaker 1>will do the right thing. And you know, here the

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<v Speaker 1>the alternative is not good because the longer we we

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<v Speaker 1>don't follow the guidelines, the longer we kicked the can

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<v Speaker 1>down the road, the longer we have to stay in

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<v Speaker 1>these conditions. So we have an opportunity to knock this down. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't even know where in what direction this is

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<v Speaker 1>headed at this point in our region. And so so

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<v Speaker 1>we have an opportunity to get ahead of this, and

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<v Speaker 1>now is the time to do it. Because when you are,

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<v Speaker 1>your officers go if you if you don't buy a

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<v Speaker 1>restaurant that's open, uncertain people, and you are, your officers

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<v Speaker 1>go in there and talk to the owner and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't do that. Well, so so we would go

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<v Speaker 1>to a business if it's a non essential business, and

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<v Speaker 1>we would go there and we would ask them you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're not allowed to do this. People are allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to go to their business two check on their their infrastructure,

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<v Speaker 1>to check the freezers, to do their payroll, to to

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<v Speaker 1>manage the day to day UH operations of their business

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<v Speaker 1>to keep it functioning, so that when we're done with this,

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<v Speaker 1>people can then turn the lights back on and go

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<v Speaker 1>to work. So people can do that. People will be

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<v Speaker 1>going in and out of businesses and work and doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>But but we're saying that you can't open your bar

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<v Speaker 1>and restaurant back up and crowd people within inches of

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<v Speaker 1>each other and begin to spread the virus UM, a

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<v Speaker 1>virus that we know to be spread even if you're asymptomatic.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have to practice the social distancing guidelines. If

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<v Speaker 1>you have an essential job, if you're in an industry

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<v Speaker 1>that we need you in and we need you to

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<v Speaker 1>be at work, UM, then you'll go there but yourself

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<v Speaker 1>to practice the guidelines of the Health Order while you're working. So,

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<v Speaker 1>Sergeant ray Kelly, it's a unique it's a unique time,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're not we're not out there looking to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>put handcuffs on people and take them to jail, because

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<v Speaker 1>our jails, our jails. They don't have the capacity or

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<v Speaker 1>the ability, nor do we have. So what do you

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<v Speaker 1>in for? I was five ft away from a guy

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<v Speaker 1>next to me. That would be both ironic and counter

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<v Speaker 1>productive to cram the jails full of people. Sergeant Ray

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly is the public Information officer at the Alameda County

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<v Speaker 1>Sheriff's Office. Uh, listen, I understand the contingency planning doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean that something's going to happen. But what have you

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<v Speaker 1>been hearing from the Governor's office, for instance, about what

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<v Speaker 1>might be next? Well, you know, right now, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to clean up and address some of the essential functions,

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<v Speaker 1>like what those are. So one of the things we're

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<v Speaker 1>worried about is like manufacturing certain manufacturing facilities that produced

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<v Speaker 1>things that we need, so we need to deal with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Um in Silicon Valley. A lot of people down there

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<v Speaker 1>can work remotely and continue their jobs, but there's certain

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<v Speaker 1>jobs that that we need people to go into in

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<v Speaker 1>certain industries to make supplies, to manufacture things that we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to need that are essential to everyday life. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think hopefully he addresses things like that. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to just have to feel this out in

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<v Speaker 1>the coming days, adjust and adapt as as the situation unfolds.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we can look to Italy and what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on over there. I know I've been been watching that

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<v Speaker 1>to see what how they're handling it, because they've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing this now for a couple of weeks. So um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I heard you say earlier in the show

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<v Speaker 1>that that that this is likely coming to other larger areas,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's probably true. So people are gonna be looking

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<v Speaker 1>at our model to see how we're how we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>here in the in the six Barrier counties that are

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<v Speaker 1>in this So he is there has there been any

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<v Speaker 1>discussion of actual martial law at this point. No. I

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<v Speaker 1>have been on multiple phone calls. We have been on

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<v Speaker 1>multiple phone calls. Of course we would no. I I

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<v Speaker 1>think that, you know, because because we're in the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>and because we are a democracy, and because we have

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<v Speaker 1>the Constitution and a whole lot of rights, is really

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<v Speaker 1>hard to impose those types of situations onto people like

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<v Speaker 1>you can do in a country like China. You can

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<v Speaker 1>knock lock people down and drag them off if they

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<v Speaker 1>don't follow and and create. But we have due process.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a colonel justice system. We have things in place,

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<v Speaker 1>um for those reasons. So there's there, there's all these

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<v Speaker 1>extremes out there. But I just I think if people

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<v Speaker 1>just practice and do um what we're asking of them

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<v Speaker 1>through with our health experts and they listen, we can

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<v Speaker 1>all get through this in a way that is manageable

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<v Speaker 1>and puts less stress on everyone. Sergeant Ray Kelly, the

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<v Speaker 1>Alamida Sheriff's Office. Uh, sergeant, keep you guys safe and

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<v Speaker 1>healthy and keep doing a good job. We appreciate the time. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much, take care all right. Thanks And

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<v Speaker 1>if you weren't listening at the first party, said they

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<v Speaker 1>will taste people if they're standing less and six ft

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<v Speaker 1>from Oh boy, exactly the way I interpreted it. But

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<v Speaker 1>we got a text and says, Jack, you're not helping

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<v Speaker 1>with any of your comments. That's probably true that every day,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you ever listen to the show, the more

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<v Speaker 1>he he's out of control. The more I think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>the more I feel like this is just all going

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<v Speaker 1>to take care of itself without having going to get

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<v Speaker 1>into some of these details. Because as fewer and fewer

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<v Speaker 1>people go out, the businesses are going to close because

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<v Speaker 1>it's cheaper to be closed. Than to be open. And

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<v Speaker 1>if there's no place to go because everything's closed, nobody's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go out. So there's just I mean, where would

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<v Speaker 1>I go if I did leave my home? And that

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<v Speaker 1>will help? And one person driving around is not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a big deal anyway. I mean, so there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's just gonna build on itself. Well, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think of the vast majority of people understand the intent

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<v Speaker 1>of all this, and they think, yeah, that's legit. All

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<v Speaker 1>the people I trust tell me this is legit. It's legit.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want people dying by the hundreds of the thousands.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the things they're starting to see in

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of places like New York, in Washington State

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<v Speaker 1>and UM and a couple others is that you're having

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<v Speaker 1>more healthcare workers getting sick, more hospital nurses getting sick.

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<v Speaker 1>And we really really want to avoid that because this

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<v Speaker 1>system could get overwhelmed in such a big hurry that

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<v Speaker 1>people are thinking, yeah, I know they're not gonna arrest me,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna do it anyway. I got this text.

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<v Speaker 1>It's highly recommended that every will check the expiration date

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<v Speaker 1>on their toilet paper. If expired, it will not protect

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<v Speaker 1>you from the coronavirus. Oh boy, when will the toilet

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<v Speaker 1>paper crisis end? I was written The Wall Street Journal

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<v Speaker 1>has got two articles about it today. It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>like next week. The big manufacturers have ramped up, which

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<v Speaker 1>brings me to the the the interesting economic discussion of

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<v Speaker 1>should prowse price gouging be allowed? And I've been convinced

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<v Speaker 1>that it should be. Um, it makes perfectly good sense

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<v Speaker 1>to me. And we can get into that if the

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<v Speaker 1>people are worth saving, they'd have money to buy. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to need a higher level classes to lead

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<v Speaker 1>us to the new future. They've canceled the post viral future.

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<v Speaker 1>They canceled the Kentucky Derby for the first time ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, when will it end? Have they told

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<v Speaker 1>the horses