1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: This morning, the US is inching closer to a coronavirus 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: shutdown across the board. Seven million residents in the San 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: Francisco Bay Area have, in order to shelter in place, 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: only allowed to leave their homes for essential reasons. It 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: is the nation's strictest measures so far. Is that a 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: suggestion or a lot you get a fine? I don't 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: know what happens there. Also, if you live in the 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: Bay Area, you probably know this. If you don't, it's 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: probably coming to you soon. This whole you gotta stay 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: home routine. I absolutely think that in the dense or 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: more densely populating parts of the country, it's just a 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: matter of days before everybody's hearing something like this. We're 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: gonna be like Italy and Germany and France and everywhere 14 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: else South Korea. Alameda Contra Costi, Contra costum or in 15 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: Santa Clara, San Francisco, San Mateo, and Santa Cruz County 16 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: so far appear to be a most aggressive public response 17 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: to coronavirus anywhere in the US so far, and from 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: Alameda County. Sergeant Ray Kelly joins us raised, the public 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: Information officer for the Alameda Sheriff's Office, Sergeant Kelly, how 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: are you, sir? Oh, good morning. I got about five 21 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: hours sleep, but I'm ready to roll back at it again. 22 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: It's been it's been a roller coaster of of a week, 23 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: to say the least. Right. I have friends in law 24 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: enforcement who say that things are changing by the half hour, 25 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: and everybody's just scrambling to figure out what's what. So 26 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: how would you characterize the shelter in place order? I mean, 27 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: it's there are a plenty of exceptions. Nobody's going to 28 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: get their head cracked for leaving their house. What do 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: you have to say? Well, okay, what do you have 30 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: to say to the citizens of the Bay area so 31 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: that you know that that's a great question. And I'm 32 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 1: getting asked all sorts of questions. I got people calling 33 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: me and asking me, even friends and family, Hey can 34 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: I go for a walk? Can I go do this? 35 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: So what people are being asked to do is if 36 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: you're doing non essential things. If you're not, uh, have 37 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: a reason to go and do whatever activity is in 38 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: the health order, Um, we're asking you not to do it. 39 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: The most important thing is large groups and situations where 40 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: people don't need to interact because they don't serve in 41 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: essential function that they stay home and that they practice 42 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: the physical social distancing. Um that's been asked to them. 43 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: Use use the word asked twice? Are you asking people? 44 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: Are telling people, well, this is it is a law. 45 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: It's a misdemeanor violation of the Health and Safety Code 46 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: to to violate it. But the issue is is we're 47 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: not looking to fill up our jails with with a 48 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: bunch of citizens that violated, you know, the law. So 49 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: there's there's the spirit of the law and the letter 50 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: of the law. You know, we as a society have 51 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: social norms and people do what is socially normal. So 52 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: we're we know that the majority of our citizens here 53 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: in the Bay Area are going to do the right thing, 54 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: that they're going to follow the guideline, and that other 55 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: people are gonna show each other what is socially acceptable. 56 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 1: So for example, you know, three weeks ago, four weeks ago, 57 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: we shook each other's hands. Now we see people not 58 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: shaking each other's hands. That's not socially acceptable because people 59 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: are concerned about their health and so, um, we have 60 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: a way of kind of policing ourselves as a society 61 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: and telling each other, what's good, what's right, what's wrong. 62 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: So in that regard, I think we will all help 63 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: each other do the right thing. And so, uh, this 64 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: notion or this mindset that's that some people have that 65 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: the police are going to be out there just looking 66 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: for you to violate the rules, that's not the case. 67 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: We're really we really know and truly believe that people 68 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: will do the right thing. And you know, here the 69 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: the alternative is not good because the longer we we 70 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: don't follow the guidelines, the longer we kicked the can 71 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: down the road, the longer we have to stay in 72 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: these conditions. So we have an opportunity to knock this down. Um, 73 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: we don't even know where in what direction this is 74 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: headed at this point in our region. And so so 75 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: we have an opportunity to get ahead of this, and 76 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: now is the time to do it. Because when you are, 77 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: your officers go if you if you don't buy a 78 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: restaurant that's open, uncertain people, and you are, your officers 79 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: go in there and talk to the owner and say, hey, 80 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: you shouldn't do that. Well, so so we would go 81 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: to a business if it's a non essential business, and 82 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: we would go there and we would ask them you're 83 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: you're you're not allowed to do this. People are allowed 84 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: to go to their business two check on their their infrastructure, 85 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: to check the freezers, to do their payroll, to to 86 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: manage the day to day UH operations of their business 87 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: to keep it functioning, so that when we're done with this, 88 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: people can then turn the lights back on and go 89 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: to work. So people can do that. People will be 90 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: going in and out of businesses and work and doing that. 91 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: But but we're saying that you can't open your bar 92 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: and restaurant back up and crowd people within inches of 93 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: each other and begin to spread the virus UM, a 94 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: virus that we know to be spread even if you're asymptomatic. 95 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: So we have to practice the social distancing guidelines. If 96 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: you have an essential job, if you're in an industry 97 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: that we need you in and we need you to 98 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: be at work, UM, then you'll go there but yourself 99 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: to practice the guidelines of the Health Order while you're working. So, 100 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: Sergeant ray Kelly, it's a unique it's a unique time, 101 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: but we're not we're not out there looking to, you know, 102 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: put handcuffs on people and take them to jail, because 103 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: our jails, our jails. They don't have the capacity or 104 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: the ability, nor do we have. So what do you 105 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: in for? I was five ft away from a guy 106 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: next to me. That would be both ironic and counter 107 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: productive to cram the jails full of people. Sergeant Ray 108 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: Kelly is the public Information officer at the Alameda County 109 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: Sheriff's Office. Uh, listen, I understand the contingency planning doesn't 110 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: mean that something's going to happen. But what have you 111 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: been hearing from the Governor's office, for instance, about what 112 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: might be next? Well, you know, right now, he's gonna 113 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: have to clean up and address some of the essential functions, 114 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: like what those are. So one of the things we're 115 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: worried about is like manufacturing certain manufacturing facilities that produced 116 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: things that we need, so we need to deal with that. 117 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: Um in Silicon Valley. A lot of people down there 118 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: can work remotely and continue their jobs, but there's certain 119 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: jobs that that we need people to go into in 120 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: certain industries to make supplies, to manufacture things that we're 121 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: going to need that are essential to everyday life. So 122 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: I think hopefully he addresses things like that. I think 123 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: we're going to just have to feel this out in 124 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: the coming days, adjust and adapt as as the situation unfolds. 125 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: I think we can look to Italy and what's going 126 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: on over there. I know I've been been watching that 127 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: to see what how they're handling it, because they've been 128 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: doing this now for a couple of weeks. So um. 129 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: And then I heard you say earlier in the show 130 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: that that that this is likely coming to other larger areas, 131 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: and that's probably true. So people are gonna be looking 132 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: at our model to see how we're how we're doing 133 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: here in the in the six Barrier counties that are 134 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: in this So he is there has there been any 135 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: discussion of actual martial law at this point. No. I 136 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: have been on multiple phone calls. We have been on 137 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: multiple phone calls. Of course we would no. I I 138 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: think that, you know, because because we're in the United States, 139 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: and because we are a democracy, and because we have 140 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: the Constitution and a whole lot of rights, is really 141 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: hard to impose those types of situations onto people like 142 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: you can do in a country like China. You can 143 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: knock lock people down and drag them off if they 144 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: don't follow and and create. But we have due process. 145 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: We have a colonel justice system. We have things in place, 146 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: um for those reasons. So there's there, there's all these 147 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: extremes out there. But I just I think if people 148 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: just practice and do um what we're asking of them 149 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: through with our health experts and they listen, we can 150 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: all get through this in a way that is manageable 151 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: and puts less stress on everyone. Sergeant Ray Kelly, the 152 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: Alamida Sheriff's Office. Uh, sergeant, keep you guys safe and 153 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: healthy and keep doing a good job. We appreciate the time. Well, 154 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 1: thank you very much, take care all right. Thanks And 155 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: if you weren't listening at the first party, said they 156 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: will taste people if they're standing less and six ft 157 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: from Oh boy, exactly the way I interpreted it. But 158 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: we got a text and says, Jack, you're not helping 159 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: with any of your comments. That's probably true that every day, 160 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: you know, you ever listen to the show, the more 161 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: he he's out of control. The more I think about it, 162 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: the more I feel like this is just all going 163 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: to take care of itself without having going to get 164 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: into some of these details. Because as fewer and fewer 165 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: people go out, the businesses are going to close because 166 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: it's cheaper to be closed. Than to be open. And 167 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: if there's no place to go because everything's closed, nobody's 168 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: gonna go out. So there's just I mean, where would 169 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: I go if I did leave my home? And that 170 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: will help? And one person driving around is not gonna 171 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: be a big deal anyway. I mean, so there's there's 172 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: just it's just gonna build on itself. Well, and I 173 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: think of the vast majority of people understand the intent 174 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: of all this, and they think, yeah, that's legit. All 175 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: the people I trust tell me this is legit. It's legit. 176 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: I don't want people dying by the hundreds of the thousands. 177 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: And one of the things they're starting to see in 178 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: a couple of places like New York, in Washington State 179 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: and UM and a couple others is that you're having 180 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: more healthcare workers getting sick, more hospital nurses getting sick. 181 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,599 Speaker 1: And we really really want to avoid that because this 182 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: system could get overwhelmed in such a big hurry that 183 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: people are thinking, yeah, I know they're not gonna arrest me, 184 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna do it anyway. I got this text. 185 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 1: It's highly recommended that every will check the expiration date 186 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: on their toilet paper. If expired, it will not protect 187 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: you from the coronavirus. Oh boy, when will the toilet 188 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: paper crisis end? I was written The Wall Street Journal 189 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: has got two articles about it today. It's gonna be 190 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: like next week. The big manufacturers have ramped up, which 191 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: brings me to the the the interesting economic discussion of 192 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: should prowse price gouging be allowed? And I've been convinced 193 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: that it should be. Um, it makes perfectly good sense 194 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: to me. And we can get into that if the 195 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: people are worth saving, they'd have money to buy. Right. 196 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: We're going to need a higher level classes to lead 197 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: us to the new future. They've canceled the post viral future. 198 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: They canceled the Kentucky Derby for the first time ever. 199 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, when will it end? Have they told 200 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: the horses