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Speaker 3: Commentator, international social media sensation and form a Navy intelligence veteran.

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Speaker 4: This is Human Events with your host Jack Pasovic.

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Speaker 5: Christ is King.

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Speaker 3: Today, Senator Cornyn reversed a long held position in hopes

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Speaker 6: As Senate Republicans pushed the president to back Cornyan, President

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Speaker 6: Donald Trump is pressuring them to pass the Save America Act.

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Speaker 6: It would require proof of citizenship and a photo ID

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Speaker 7: It's the most popular bill I've ever seen, but before.

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Speaker 8: This morning, Congress appears no closer to reaching a deal

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Speaker 1: is March twelfth, twenty twenty six. And big questions about

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Speaker 1: leftist violence, the type of leftist violence, which has attempted

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Speaker 5: Is social media taking up so much of your time.

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Speaker 1: If you want to be an influencer, Senator, then by

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Speaker 5: But you're not.

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Speaker 1: You're a senator sitting in the United States Senate representing

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Speaker 1: the people of Texas, and as such, where's the Save Act?

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Speaker 1: Where's the Save America Act that President Trump has talked about?

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Speaker 1: Ted Cruz hasn't even tweeted about the Save Act in

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Speaker 1: Of course, uh Raheim, I wanted to get in with you.

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Speaker 5: You're never going to forget it.

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Speaker 2: on to try and discredit people, and you start to

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Speaker 2: see people turn Unfortunately. You know, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: start getting into beasts with people live on your show,

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Speaker 2: but I'm incredibly disappointed at certain people who have been

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Speaker 2: attacking maga ogs, like Steve Bannon, and I wrote about

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Speaker 2: this on my substack if anybody wants to check it out,

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Speaker 2: because you know, some corn in operation tried to make

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Speaker 2: out that he was, you know, doing something differently in

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Speaker 2: the Epstein files than what he was actually doing, which

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Speaker 2: was making a documentary about Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 5: And it's disappointing.

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Speaker 2: It's disgusting that these people sort of turn on the

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Speaker 2: people that gave them a platform in the first place.

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Speaker 2: It's not particularly surprising, after all, this is Washington, DC,

449
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Speaker 2: but some of us approached the world with a little

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Speaker 2: bit more than just you know where can we make

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Speaker 2: the next ten grand here? Or they're based on what

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Speaker 2: lobbyist is paying. Some of us actually have principles. Some

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Speaker 2: of us has been doing this for nigh on twenty

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Speaker 2: years now, and I think the underlying point that I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to make is we better be ready for a

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Speaker 2: whole new fight because, as you say, Jack, the establishment,

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Speaker 2: especially the Neocon establishment, is roaring back with vengeance.

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Speaker 1: Well, and this to your point, just for relieve, this

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Speaker 1: is all about twenty twenty eight, right, we've seen the polymarkets, Rubio, Vans,

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Speaker 1: et cetera.

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Speaker 5: Even though obviously they have a good relationship.

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Speaker 1: There are different power structures competing for this and that's

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Speaker 1: what this is really all a proxy about. Raheem, tell

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Speaker 1: people where they can go to get the latest from

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Speaker 1: the National Pulse.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do want people to check out that substack.

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Speaker 2: By the way, if you haven't read about that story yet,

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Speaker 2: it's very important. Find me on substack, Raheem Kassam. Otherwise,

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Speaker 2: Raheem Cassam on social media, the National Pulse dot com.

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Speaker 2: And thank you for having me, Jacket.

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Speaker 1: I'll come back in a year, one year until because

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold you to that, right, back Human Events Jack.

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Speaker 5: Where's Jack?

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Speaker 9: Where is he?

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Speaker 6: Jack?

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Speaker 1: I want to see you.

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Speaker 7: Great job Jack, Thank.

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Speaker 5: You, what a job you do.

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Speaker 1: I want to bring in Rich Barris, People's pundit who

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Speaker 1: you know, a long standing guest, long standing.

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Speaker 5: Friend of the program. Rich, you know you you were

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Speaker 5: just common thing.

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Speaker 1: I saw your tweet now as well, that you were

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Speaker 1: listening to the conversation that we were having Rahem Cassam

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Speaker 1: myself about how the Paxton Quornin race and really so

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Speaker 1: many of the things that are going on right now,

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Speaker 1: they're about the direction of travel, the direction of travel.

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Speaker 5: Of the MAGA movement.

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Speaker 1: That and this has always been sort of the question,

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Speaker 1: you know, whereas the MAGA. I've always said that in

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Speaker 1: many ways MAGA operates almost like a third party just

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Speaker 1: within the Republican Party. And at the same time and

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Speaker 1: as such, you see these these friction points with things

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Speaker 1: like when it comes to foreign war, when it comes

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Speaker 1: to immigration, when it comes to taxes, when it comes

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Speaker 1: to all sorts of different.

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Speaker 5: Things where MAGA kind.

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Speaker 1: Of brushes up and butts up against differences and in

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Speaker 1: the party structures. And this is exactly what the Corn

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Speaker 1: and Pacston race has devolved into. What is your sense

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Speaker 1: when it comes to that?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the Corn Impacston race is a proxy

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Speaker 7: for so many of these other fights that we keep seeing,

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Speaker 7: you know, we keep seeing. And what I said on

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Speaker 7: on social media I'm going to repeat here, which is

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Speaker 7: like through the conversation that you just had with Raheem

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Speaker 7: about what happens to MAGA when it gets to DC Jack, Right,

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Speaker 7: It's almost like they didn't really im a movement for sure,

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Speaker 7: but it didn't have the infrastructure in that town like

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Speaker 7: you know, these parties the establishments have had for years,

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Speaker 7: so there's like never a discussion about Okay, what next.

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Speaker 7: And now I think what happened is that the Republican

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Speaker 7: establishment particularly was really good this time at co opting

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Speaker 7: parts of MAGA, you know, blending in like chamellions, whereas

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Speaker 7: during the first Trump administration they didn't do that. They

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Speaker 7: kept their masks off the entire time. And a huge

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Speaker 7: thing Raheem pointed out, which is a major problem. It's

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Speaker 7: an uncomfortable conversation and we need to have it is

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Speaker 7: the influence of money now in MAGA circles, mega influencing circles, MAGA,

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Speaker 7: you know, consulting circles. And I you know, look what

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Speaker 7: he said is absolutely true. The bottom line is this,

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Speaker 7: the American public doesn't have a lobby in DC. MAGA

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Speaker 7: doesn't have a lobby in DC. Right, so when you

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Speaker 7: get there, it turns in like morphs into all of

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Speaker 7: these different things, and unfortunately it's ended up with Steve

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Speaker 7: Bannon's one of them. But look, I mean that's why

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Speaker 7: I take my job as a poster so serious. So

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Speaker 7: I do look at this job as being a voice

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Speaker 7: or a lobby for a constituency, which is the constituency

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Speaker 7: the American voter that doesn't have a voice in DC.

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Speaker 7: That's why I take it so seriously. But what has

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Speaker 7: happened is that when people try to speak up and say, okay, look,

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Speaker 7: wrong direction, let's write this ship, you know, it's it's

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Speaker 7: it's been met with what you heard raheem bring up before,

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Speaker 7: and unfortunately that's prevented MAGA from from you know, steering,

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Speaker 7: staying the course or getting on the right path. When

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Speaker 7: they've veered off and the results are now they're now

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Speaker 7: in Jack. I mean, this debate is over, brother, This

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Speaker 7: debate is over. I mean, maga's got to uh, they

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Speaker 7: got to recalibrate and settle back in. Registrations are going

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Speaker 7: in the wrong direction, the polling's going in the wrong direction.

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Speaker 7: The identification about who identifies as such is shrinking. I mean,

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Speaker 7: so this we've not been able to have a good faith,

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Speaker 7: honest conversation, and that's what that's what's led to this.

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Speaker 7: So here we are now eight and a half, nine

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Speaker 7: months out before game day, and he's right. I mean,

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Speaker 7: I can't believe this is the first time I've heard,

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Speaker 7: you know, sitting in a green room waiting to go

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Speaker 7: on a show. This is the first time I've heard

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Speaker 7: on its conversation about it.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, you know it has to be had, and people,

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Speaker 1: you know, without Charlie being around right now, there's so

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Speaker 1: many people who try to say, play this game of Oh,

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Speaker 1: if Charlie were here, he'd be doing this, and if

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Speaker 1: Charlie were here, he'd be doing that. And guys like I, personally,

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Speaker 1: I just don't think that's fair in many cases to

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Speaker 1: be able to say that we know what Charlie would

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Speaker 1: have done. But I do know what Charlie did in

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Speaker 1: the past and what Charlie would do in the past.

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Speaker 1: When we come up with these forks in the road

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Speaker 1: and when we would have these issues with the coalition,

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Speaker 1: Charlie woul would do two things. He would say, Number one,

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Speaker 1: we have to keep the coalition together because the coalition

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Speaker 1: is what wan in twenty twenty four, and that's the

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Speaker 1: coalition that's going to continue winning in twenty six, twenty eight,

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Speaker 1: whatever in the future. And that also that when you

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Speaker 1: have disagreements, you don't practice cancel culture. You don't act

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Speaker 1: like the woke least left, and then you hear it out.

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Speaker 1: Charlie was all about holding debates. He was saying, let's

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Speaker 1: let's have a debate. Let's have good, you know, good faith,

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Speaker 1: strong debates on whatever the issue is, whatever the issue

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Speaker 1: might be, let's have it out. And in fact that's

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Speaker 1: how he lived his life because he would go onto

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Speaker 1: you know, college campuses and debate and say, if you

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Speaker 1: disagree with me, whether you're on the right or the left, whatever.

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Speaker 5: Come right to the front. Let's have that debate.

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Speaker 1: Charlie did not stand for cancel culture, and I certainly don't.

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Speaker 1: That's something that I think that the MAGA right has

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Speaker 1: always stood for, whether it's censorship on social media, censorship

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Speaker 1: in terms of debate, or censorship in terms of these

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Speaker 1: these ridiculous words that you hear being brought up again

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Speaker 1: by certain people for me andifying, I mean, these these

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Speaker 1: are that is left wing thought, that is left length thought.

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Speaker 5: You know what I said this Actually.

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Speaker 1: I've been monologuing, and I apologize, but but let.

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Speaker 5: Me just say that I said this to a reporter once.

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Speaker 1: They said, well, how do you do with misinformation if

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Speaker 1: you don't have you know, if you don't have this

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Speaker 1: this apparatus for censorship, And I said, you got it

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Speaker 1: all wrong. Is that we do deal with misinformation on

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Speaker 1: the right. It's just we don't believe in censorship. What

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Speaker 1: we believe is argument. We're going to have an argument

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Speaker 1: if you say something ridiculous about h one B's like

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Speaker 1: that was the whole.

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Speaker 5: We call it the Christmas War.

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Speaker 1: Now that took place in you know, Christmas day, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four, we will have a throwdown over it and

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Speaker 1: a beatdown, and there's going to be memes, and there's

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Speaker 1: going to be all sorts of you know, back and

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Speaker 1: forth and facts and statistics and all those you know,

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Speaker 1: all of those facets are going to come out and

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Speaker 1: we're going to have that debate and we're going to

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Speaker 1: hash it all out like men. That's how men operate women.

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Speaker 1: I'm just sorry, but women believe in this. Oh, we

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Speaker 1: have to find consensus and we can't have this, you know,

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Speaker 1: this dissension.

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Speaker 5: And so you shouldn't be platforming and listening to those

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Speaker 5: those those voices.

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Speaker 1: You know, those are bad And I'm sorry that that's

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Speaker 1: it's not the way men operate.

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Speaker 5: It's really not all right.

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Speaker 7: I said what I said, they're dangerous those they're dangerous voices, Jack,

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Speaker 7: I mean.

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Speaker 5: This, dangerous voices voices.

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Speaker 7: If you think talking like that, using those words is

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Speaker 7: anything like maga, then you completely missed the ship. You know,

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Speaker 7: you you missed the ship. Man. It's sailed a long

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Speaker 7: time ago, and you missed it. Like this has always

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Speaker 7: been about pushing back against that mentality. I'm not even

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Speaker 7: sure as somebody who studies human behavior. That's essentially what

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Speaker 7: you do in my business. I don't think a right

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Speaker 7: wing brain is wired to use words like that. So

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Speaker 7: when I say this conversation needs to be had, I

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Speaker 7: mean we really need to dive into it. If you're

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Speaker 7: using words like amplifying, plat de platforming, I'm not sure

652
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Speaker 7: you were ever right wing to begin with. And I'm

653
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Speaker 7: no coalition builder like Charlie. That's not my job. My

654
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 7: job is to merely look at coalitions and you know,

655
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Speaker 7: do the equations that lead to you know, plus this

656
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Speaker 7: plus that. That's the job to get to a winning coalition.

657
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Speaker 7: I'm not building what. I'm just telling you what fits,

658
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 7: how do you get there? But I'll tell you I

659
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Speaker 7: just don't see synergy with people who use language like that.

660
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 7: And and look it's not for me to say, I'm

661
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 7: just telling you they fundamentally, they're like diametrically opposed world views. Jack,

662
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Speaker 7: Let's just get real.

663
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 5: You just said it.

664
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Speaker 7: If there's something that needs policing, it's being policed in debate.

665
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Speaker 7: And if you lose the argument because you resort to

666
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 7: name calling and you start throwing out ists and isms.

667
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 7: Right now, we're labeling this person this and that person

668
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 7: that Glenn Greenwald, who is a liberal, had it right.

669
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Speaker 7: And it starts to concern you when you see somebody

670
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Speaker 7: from the left understand, in many ways, Maga more than

671
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Speaker 7: some of some other people.

672
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Speaker 5: You know, used to being.

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Speaker 7: If you got called a racist, or if you got

674
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Speaker 7: called a labeled another word by the left, it was

675
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Speaker 7: the worst thing that could possibly happen to you. Tell

676
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Speaker 7: me who's been throwing around labels for the last six

677
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 7: months to a year, Jack, fluid like that, that is

678
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Speaker 7: not the direction. Well, let me put it this way.

679
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Speaker 7: That's not what one in twenty four. That entire worldview

680
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Speaker 7: was rejected in twenty twenty four, and going back that

681
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 7: way is the way back to doom. It's the way

682
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 7: back to loss. Maybe there's some the age signal on

683
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 7: this is unbelievable. Young voters just don't want to be

684
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 7: put They don't want to be given boundaries, Jack, They

685
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 7: don't want to be putting in thought boxes or speech boxes.

686
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 7: And if you thought our generation was brazen when it

687
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 7: came to this, wait until you meet the gen z's

688
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 7: below us. It's not going to work with them, brother,

689
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 7: it's not. So you know, you're enjoying a short term

690
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 7: victory screaming and yelling at people, but at the end

691
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 7: of the day, you're going to lose because of it

692
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 7: if it keeps up.

693
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Speaker 1: No, No, gen Z is not a believer in censorship.

694
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Speaker 1: And in fact, if you tell them that someone shouldn't

695
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Speaker 1: be listened to, it's going to make this. It's a

696
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: strategy and effect. They are going to listen to that

697
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: person even more. Richard Barrison back on in just a second, back.

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Speaker 10: In a flash, Human Events Daily, call this the Jack

699
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Speaker 10: Pasobic Appreciation Hour. I can say confidently I believe I

700
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Speaker 10: think Josh Shapiro would be the.

701
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Speaker 5: Vice presidential nominee.

702
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Speaker 10: It wasn't for Jack PISOBC.

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Speaker 5: And that is I'm be.

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Speaker 1: Honest, all right, Jack Pisobic. We are back live here

705
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Speaker 1: Human Events Daily, and we didn't do a Question of

706
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Speaker 1: the Day today, but you know, maybe maybe I'll do

707
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Speaker 1: this tomorrow because I think that I think that this

708
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Speaker 1: is a discussion that needs to be had, and I

709
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: think that a lot of people are interested in this discussion.

710
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 5: I'm certainly interested in this discussion.

711
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Speaker 1: I've been interested in this discussion for ten years because

712
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: I've spent ten years of my life in this movement,

713
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: working on this supporting the president and day in, day out,

714
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Speaker 1: whatever it is, whatever the fight of the day is,

715
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: whatever the struggle is. You know, we stand by the president.

716
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: We fight for this movement because we believe in this

717
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: country and believe what MAGA stands for. The hat stays on.

718
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 1: MAGA hat stays on. There ain't no question about that.

719
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: And if this is something where you know, the MAGA

720
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Speaker 1: hat's got to stay on for pack In Cornant, then

721
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 1: it's going to stay on for Paxton Cornant, all right,

722
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Speaker 1: the hat stays on. I love my red hat. I'm

723
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: never getting rid of my red hat. And my children

724
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: know that. One day, my grandchildren will know that as well.

725
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: And I'm going to say, hey, I thought the fight man.

726
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: I stood with people that were absolute champions, that are

727
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: far better than I. I stood with teams like the

728
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Speaker 1: incredible team at Turning Point USA, at the events team there,

729
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: everything that they do, the halftime show, the memorial, the events,

730
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: just incredible things that they're able to do at a

731
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Speaker 1: moment's notice because of the best in the entire world.

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Speaker 1: They are the best team in the entire world at

733
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Speaker 1: Turning Point Events.

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Speaker 5: And you know, so rich, you know, kind of to

735
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Speaker 5: bring this back in.

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Speaker 1: That's why all of these things were built because so

737
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Speaker 1: many people, right, and as you know, talking about just

738
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Speaker 1: just just Turning Point as sort of a you know,

739
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: a focal point here. Charlie was able to do that

740
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 1: because people wanted to get behind that program of saving

741
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: the That's what it came down to, Yeah.

742
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Speaker 7: And then nowhere else to go. I think the first

743
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Speaker 7: time you were talking about how great the team is

744
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Speaker 7: a Turning Point, and I remember the first time I

745
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 7: went to a Turning Point event and Charlie's invited me.

746
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Speaker 7: That'll be the first thing that you'll be hit with,

747
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 7: like wow, that these guys know how to put it on.

748
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 7: And then the second thing is how different it is

749
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Speaker 7: and we don't have to mention them, but how different

750
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Speaker 7: it is from some others that you know, they just

751
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 7: really didn't capture the scope of the you know, the

752
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 7: population that wanted to hear a message like that, Right.

753
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 7: I think that's what it comes down to. And this

754
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 7: happens in politics, not just the right or the left.

755
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Speaker 7: It's just that certain organizations are much better or geared

756
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Speaker 7: towards certain groups or certain target audiences, whereas Turning Point

757
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 7: always just had this other energy and by the way,

758
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Speaker 7: just let me tell you, I don't think guys like

759
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 7: us are built to like give in or ever put

760
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 7: it down, right, but they just requires us to run

761
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Speaker 7: the race. Brother, He doesn't require us to win. It's

762
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Speaker 7: just that sometimes we got to remind ourselves that, you know,

763
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Speaker 7: it could be goes of how we're built. But you know,

764
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Speaker 7: at the end of the day, you want to be

765
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Speaker 7: able to say you kept the faith, you ran the race.

766
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Speaker 5: And that's that's what it's all about, you know.

767
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm more than happy to leave it

768
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Speaker 1: all on the field, right, And at the.

769
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Speaker 5: End of the day, that's what it's all about. People

770
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Speaker 5: like Scott Presser, he leaves it all in the field.

771
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 5: Charlie literally left it all.

772
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Speaker 1: On the field, right, you know, he went, he went

773
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Speaker 1: above and beyond and when it when it comes down

774
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Speaker 1: to this and you know, and I don't mean to

775
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 1: keep bringing up Charlie because it is about Charlie though, right,

776
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: That's a huge part of it is is you know,

777
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 1: people trying to co opt his legacy and try to

778
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: put words in his mouth. You know, you know, how

779
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: would Charlie have played this?

780
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 5: Like?

781
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: We don't know, right, We just we don't know, but

782
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Speaker 1: we know what he stood for. We knew what he

783
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: was about, and that's what we know, okay. And it's

784
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Speaker 1: it's as simple as that. And I'm not going to

785
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: sit here and act like, you know, like, oh, only

786
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: this person's allowed to say certain things like that's just ridiculous.

787
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: And Charlie didn't stand for cancel culture. And I'm just

788
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: going to leave it at that. But when you do

789
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Speaker 1: see this, you know, Rich, this has been the biggest

790
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: thing because I mentioned before and I'll sit back to

791
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: this now that it was all about and Charlie was

792
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: all about keeping the coalition together, and Rich, that's what

793
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 1: you've been focused on. You've talked about how these numbers

794
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: with Hispanics have been dipping the numbers with independence, and

795
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: that's what you've been ringing the alarm bell on, is

796
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: the fracturing of the Coalition of twenty twenty four.

797
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Speaker 5: And people try to, I think frame this.

798
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Speaker 1: Disingenuously when they'll say, well, Maga still supports Trump.

799
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Speaker 5: Of course Magas supports Trump. We're never going to stop

800
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Speaker 5: supporting Trump.

801
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Speaker 1: The point is, though, is that there were all these

802
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Speaker 1: extra pieces that were brought on in twenty four and

803
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Speaker 1: that's where that's where these soft points are.

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Speaker 7: All the winning parts. That's what I keep referring to

805
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 7: the mass, all the winning parts.

806
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Speaker 5: This is a low crops, the note crops.

807
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Speaker 7: This is how you get from losing by four and

808
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 7: a half points, you know, Shenanigan's aside, Guys, this is

809
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Speaker 7: how you get from losing the popular vote even by

810
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Speaker 7: two and a half points like in twenty sixteen, to

811
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Speaker 7: winning it by about a point and a half. All

812
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Speaker 7: of the winning parts Hispanics, black men under the age

813
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Speaker 7: of fifty, right, we can go down. There's litany of this.

814
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Speaker 7: Even by the way, women who were eighteen to twenty

815
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Speaker 7: nine who came out and voted for Trump. Trump didn't

816
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Speaker 7: only convince more educated women because he did better with them.

817
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Speaker 7: He didn't just convince some of them that voted for

818
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Speaker 7: Biden in twenty twenty to come back over to his side.

819
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Speaker 7: That's not what happened. The largest share of why he

820
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Speaker 7: did better with that group is because he got them

821
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Speaker 7: out when they don't vote. You know, these are not

822
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Speaker 7: eighteen year old women. It could have been a forty

823
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Speaker 7: five year old woman and said, you know what for Maha,

824
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Speaker 7: I'm doing it for this On whatever their issue may

825
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 7: have been, but it was this and I think this

826
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Speaker 7: is where you know, people have misinterpreted what I've been

827
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Speaker 7: doing for the last year. I knew this was going

828
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Speaker 7: to happen, all right. I mean, I'm just gonna call it.

829
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Speaker 7: I don't. I'm not up here saying I told you

830
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Speaker 7: so because it gives me a thrill or something down

831
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Speaker 7: my leg. I knew it was going to happen. I

832
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 7: tried to warn people as best I could. Some people

833
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 7: just didn't want to hear it. Jack. But now we

834
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Speaker 7: are here where we're it looked just earlier in the

835
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Speaker 7: week another you know, another handful. We can put it

836
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Speaker 7: in the data set of races where Republicans underperformed. The

837
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Speaker 7: only thing building up, or the only thing that did

838
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Speaker 7: build up more than their losses since the special election

839
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Speaker 7: season kicked off, was their excuses for these losses. The

840
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 7: excuses have been right, The reasons have been right in

841
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 7: front of us the entire time. They wanted us to

842
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 7: pivot back to a domestic policy focus. And when you don't,

843
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 7: and you know more than that, when everything is screaming

844
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 7: at you not to do it, and you know you

845
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Speaker 7: have people who are just like ah, you know, sit down,

846
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 7: shut up, You're not going to hold that part of

847
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 7: the coalition the most. Really I hate using the word vulnerable,

848
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 7: but they were the newest parts of MAGA. They were

849
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 7: the new MAGA. They most agreed was og Maga, you know,

850
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 7: the original concept of it. They most agreed with that

851
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Speaker 7: plus the addition of MAHA, and that's what they wanted

852
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Speaker 7: to pursue. So it wasn't just a little thing last

853
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 7: year to get derailed into you know, striking Ron's nuclear facilities.

854
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 7: It was a major red flag to them. These people

855
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 7: have like I no, I can hear so funny. I hear

856
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 7: somebody go on Piers Morgan, who constantly criticizes me. He

857
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 7: goes on Piers Morgan and takes something I said to

858
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 7: the Vice President sitting in the West wing right out

859
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 7: of my mouth, like he came up with it as

860
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 7: an original thought himself. They have PTSD towards this stuff,

861
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 7: and they gave you know, this ticket a chance because

862
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 7: they believed in their domestic focus, they their domestic vision

863
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 7: for the country. And it was like, you know, causing

864
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Speaker 7: them to twitch all over again. And none, let's face it,

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Speaker 7: their suspicions, their fears were justified. And I know a

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Speaker 7: lot of that has to do with the Republican Congress

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Speaker 7: for MAGA to eventually try to like this corn impacts

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Speaker 7: and race and and I'm gonna take it, you know,

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Speaker 1: Let me, let me take it back to to the

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Speaker 1: start here. That's why when I've got a US Senator

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Speaker 1: who's who's worried about some social media stuff, it's like, dude,

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Speaker 1: where is the Save Act?

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Speaker 5: Where is the Save America Act? This act?

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Speaker 1: And supporting for it and fighting for it. This is

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Speaker 1: exactly why we give something. If you want to go

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Speaker 1: be a podcaster, go be an influencer, please, by all means,

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Speaker 1: it is a free country, go ahead and do so.

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Speaker 5: But if you're going to be US senator, then guess what.

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Speaker 1: Fight for the agenda of the American people in the

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Speaker 1: US Senate.

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Speaker 5: Fight for the Save America Act.

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Speaker 1: President Trump has said all work stops until the Save

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Speaker 1: America Act is passed. He said that to every single Senator.

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Speaker 1: He said, no legislation until the Save America Act is passed?

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Speaker 5: So where is it? Could you at least tweet about it?

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Speaker 1: If you're going to focus on social media so much,

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Speaker 1: and you we just don't see it. So we got

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Speaker 1: other thing, and not what Donald J.

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Speaker 5: Trump, the President of the United States, has called for.

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Speaker 7: Eighty percent support. Jack, if they can't get something like

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Speaker 7: that through, could you imagine Democrats trying to tell their

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Speaker 7: to their base, that they had eighty percent support across

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Speaker 7: the country for it. Could you imagine Democrats failing to

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Speaker 7: pass that. No way, it wouldn't happen. They could have

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Speaker 7: a one seat majority and they would get it through.

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Speaker 7: And that's more than that. I mean, were there's been

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Speaker 7: something on the MAHA front. I mean, you could go

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Speaker 7: down as rock stars. If you remove the protections for

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Speaker 7: manufactured vaccine manufacturers over vaccine injuries, you would guys would

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Speaker 7: go down as legends. If you would do something like that,

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Speaker 7: it would be a shot, you know, right to the

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Speaker 7: arm of MAGA again. Everyone could be fired up. That's

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Speaker 7: the good thing about politics. You know, eight months, nine months,

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Speaker 7: it's forever, but you gotta do something soon, got to

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Speaker 7: do it.

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Speaker 1: So it's as simple as that. Go folks, rich Baris Goofollom,

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