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Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons is balling, Bring it on, bring it on.

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Speaker 1: Slim the ground by Buda Baker like a torpedo. He

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Speaker 1: came flying into the backfield, Pins Girt and nobody. Here's

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Speaker 1: Paul caldc So. I heard one newscast right with the

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Speaker 1: weather Report where they cited that these recent wins that

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Speaker 1: have plagued Arizona, right, this winner storm elt grande that

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Speaker 1: has come through the ac that we haven't seen wins

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Speaker 1: like this in decades. And I said, well, have you

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Speaker 1: looked over the Cardinal's headquarters. Them's the winds of change,

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Speaker 1: that's what's blown through Arizona right now. The winds of

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Speaker 1: change led by Jonathan Gann, Hurricane Gannon is what's blown.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's a tropical storm. I'm not sure, but I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty sure that's what's responsible. That was good, Paul. I

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Speaker 1: was going to say, how about that? How long did

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Speaker 1: you have that in your back pocket? Do I need

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Speaker 1: a green screen where I can actually get in front

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Speaker 1: and you know, weather map and actually pointed out was good.

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Speaker 1: I will say I once upon at a time in

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Speaker 1: a previous lifetime, I worked at the paper and Flagstaff.

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Speaker 1: So I'm Facebook friends with a guy who works at

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Speaker 1: the paper there still and uh, he put up there

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Speaker 1: that at one point this morning, I want to say

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Speaker 1: to nine o'clock hours, somewhere in there, he put on

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Speaker 1: Facebook that all every every highway that was going in

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Speaker 1: and out of Flagstaff was officially closed. They were you

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Speaker 1: were you were locked Flagstaff because the winds and the snow.

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Speaker 1: You know what it's hurricane buckle up is what it is.

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Speaker 1: There you go, you need to take the map Arizona

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Speaker 1: and all those freeways that are calls. Just put a

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Speaker 1: jgism on every one of them. That's what you do

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Speaker 1: over there? All right, that's too much. Danny's now shaking

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Speaker 1: her head. She's sick of me already. We're only moments

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Speaker 1: PAULI Podcast Here, Danny, sereg Darren Urban Danny, where do

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Speaker 1: you want to start? I mean, you know, come on

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Speaker 1: over there. Where would you like to start? What feels apropos? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think we should talk about new defensive coordinator Nick Rowlis.

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Speaker 1: He had his press conference with new head coach Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Gannon on Wednesday afternoon, which we were all at and

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Speaker 1: I'm very proud of you, Paul. You got there early

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Speaker 1: enough to get a seat this time, got a seat

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Speaker 1: I couldn't get. We were very excited. No, I couldn't

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Speaker 1: get a question. Everybody jumping. Sorry about that, Sorry about

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Speaker 1: I just and I know we're gonna go in depth.

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Speaker 1: There was things that we learned that you know, first

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Speaker 1: part was do tell Rallis, who is a young twenty nine,

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Speaker 1: We're approaching this birthday. Does my bingo card? My bingo

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Speaker 1: of oh another another question about how young he is? Well,

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Speaker 1: I came up right before the press conference started, Paul

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Speaker 1: will say, okay, so what is and this is very

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, at what point do I stop using that?

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Speaker 1: They've kind of done something now with their titles, right

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Speaker 1: remember the saying. In fact, Jonathan Gannon asked, Nick rawllis

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Speaker 1: He said, quote experience is not synonymous, would knowledge almost

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Speaker 1: in the front office feel about Jonathan Gannon. As I

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Speaker 1: see that he feels the same sentiment as he is

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Speaker 1: building his coaching staff, as he's not making decisions based

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Speaker 1: But Gannon said that wasn't necessarily intentional. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: And his answer was, I don't think there's an advantage

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Speaker 1: down to connecting with players, maximizing players. So if he

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Speaker 1: acquisition process. And by the way, we'll get into that

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Speaker 1: But now that's about to change that things will be

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Speaker 1: done differently. Sure sounds like it when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft and evaluating players. But in terms of

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Speaker 1: the new defensive coordinator, I honestly wasn't expecting the head

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Speaker 1: And then when when the door opened, I heard someone clapping,

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Speaker 1: like you're coming with Gusta. I do not remember Danny

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Speaker 1: you John, I have the floor, Darren. When Gannon was hired,

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Speaker 1: get into Kyler Murray here on Cardinals Underground. But you know,

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Speaker 1: there was a question about Jonathan Gannon and what his

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Speaker 1: What was he trying to convey? You were a little presumptuous.

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Speaker 1: Is that what he's trying Did you have insight knowledge?

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Speaker 1: Here's here's what happened, because I went back and listened.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to sit back and watch Nick run the defense.

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Speaker 1: I heard run, and I made the jump to calling plays.

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Speaker 1: run the defense. Right, Well, you got the answer you're

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Speaker 1: Nick Rollis will be the play caller and so and

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Speaker 1: Michael bidwellhead completed the Pash Pod Dave Pash and his

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Speaker 1: or critics of a shotgun only offense are talking about.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't stress a defense enough, it doesn't give that

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Speaker 1: front seven enough to consider. And so yeah, it seems like,

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Speaker 1: in fact, the last quote he said, that's the missing

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Speaker 1: piece Jonathan Ann and I thought they had with Kyler.

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Speaker 1: They were in the gun all the time. When you're

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Speaker 1: in the gun all the time, you don't the defense

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Speaker 1: defend certain play types. Now, when you get them under

433
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Speaker 1: center of the defense has to defend a lot more

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Speaker 1: type of plays. So there's really two offenses I see

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Speaker 1: us using, which then ties back into what he said

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Speaker 1: at his opening press commerce that he has a very

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Speaker 1: specific vision for the offense despite the fact he's a

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Speaker 1: defensive guy. Ties into what Michael Bidwell said on the

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Speaker 1: Pash pod that guess what, Nick Rowlis is going to

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Speaker 1: run the defense and the head coach is going to

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Speaker 1: take more of that traditional role with more of a

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Speaker 1: focus initially on the offense because there's a little bit

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Speaker 1: more undefined right there. And he'll be working with Drew

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Speaker 1: Petscene and and so forth. So that's all interesting. Now

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Speaker 1: we're gonna hear from Drew Petscene as of the recording

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Speaker 1: to this podcast within the next twenty four hours, and

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Speaker 1: then I guess we're gonna find out how much of

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Speaker 1: a conversation is he had with Kyler? How many what's

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Speaker 1: the over under on the number of shotgun questions to

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Speaker 1: Drew Petscene and his opening press commence, I got at

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Speaker 1: least three, that's my over you're gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: get any of them off. I'm gonna take the under.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say too two You sure about is

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Speaker 1: this legal? What asking the questioning? Did you see see

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Speaker 1: the guy? By the way, some sports book he had

456
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Speaker 1: a fifteen leg parlay all over unders. He put down

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Speaker 1: five dollars and one eighty two grand on what every

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Speaker 1: single college basketball game he nailed the over under fifteen

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Speaker 1: of him and he had to hit everyone to win,

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Speaker 1: and he took five dollars and turn it into eighty grand.

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Speaker 1: The astronomical odds on that not nearly as complex. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, I'm gonna match correct Craig Grilu with

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Speaker 1: some numbers here courtesy and next Gen stats. If he

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Speaker 1: didn't see him out there, Kyler led all quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: shotgun percentage last season ninety five point four percent. However,

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Speaker 1: you know who is number two? Jalen Hurts at ninety

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Speaker 1: four point two yeah, a scant one percent behind Kyler Murray,

468
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Speaker 1: although since twenty twenty, Kyler under center is only has

469
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Speaker 1: been less than three percent of the time, lowest among

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Speaker 1: all quarterbacks in the last three year span. So to

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Speaker 1: Darren's point, how much of it was Kyler, how much

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Speaker 1: of it was the offense, how much was the scheme?

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Speaker 1: Something else? Michael Bidwell said, and this is the day

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Speaker 1: pass and talking about the offense, and I'm looking for

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Speaker 1: that quote here. It is. The intent with Kyler going

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Speaker 1: forward is to try and say, take some of the

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Speaker 1: pressure off him. The way the offense was before, he

478
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Speaker 1: had a choice on almost every play we ran, so

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Speaker 1: we were making him think too much and putting too

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Speaker 1: much pressure on him. Well we need to do is

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Speaker 1: play faster and play with that confidence that will come

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Speaker 1: with Okay, I don't have to get a first down

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Speaker 1: every down. I can hand the ball off. And Michael

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Speaker 1: went on to say, I know they're going to put

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Speaker 1: him under center quite a bit, meaning the new coaching staff,

486
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Speaker 1: and that's going to take some of the pressure off. Interesting,

487
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Speaker 1: very interesting because for everything that Kyler is, he's still

488
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Speaker 1: a young quarterback and he only had that one full

489
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Speaker 1: year of college ball. Starting and so with that in mind,

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Speaker 1: if you cont some of that decision making off his

491
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Speaker 1: plate may simplify things a little bit, you would hope

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Speaker 1: that the result is he plays faster, more confidently. That's

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Speaker 1: something we have talked about was Kyler Murray, and we

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Speaker 1: kind of touched on it with Tuah and Dolphins of

495
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Speaker 1: possibly losing that confidence, not just the way that Cardinals

496
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Speaker 1: played as a whole this past year, but the way

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Speaker 1: that Kyler Murray was playing before he got hurt. And

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Speaker 1: we talked about it seemed like whether that was confidence

499
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Speaker 1: maybe not himself, but in the receivers he had, and

500
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Speaker 1: how hurt this offense was, and the accuracy that didn't

501
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Speaker 1: seem there, especially on those deep balls, and some of

502
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Speaker 1: the decisions that were being made. We talked about whether

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Speaker 1: or not the confidence had taken a dip. So I

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Speaker 1: don't have a problem if you're going to try and

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Speaker 1: make some changes to try and bring that confidence back

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Speaker 1: and allow Kyler to feel like he can be himself,

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Speaker 1: especially as he's rehabbing from a pretty gnarly injury. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know that it might not seem gnarly because of

509
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Speaker 1: the way that science is and you know, surgery and

510
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Speaker 1: how these trainers around the league are able to rehab

511
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Speaker 1: in the players and all that stuff. It might not

512
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Speaker 1: seem narly, but that's that's a pretty big surgery to

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Speaker 1: still be coming off of. So I have no problem

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Speaker 1: if you're going to try and change things up a

515
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,959
Speaker 1: little bit and simplify things, and if things weren't working,

516
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Speaker 1: which they clearly weren't, which is why we're sitting here

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Speaker 1: talking about a new coaching staff, I have no problem

518
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Speaker 1: trying to make some changes. Do you think that quarterback

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Speaker 1: they go after in the offseason will be a dual

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Speaker 1: threat quarterback Marcus Mariota, for example. Do you think that's

521
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Speaker 1: almost a must? I don't. Are you going to try?

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Speaker 1: And that is that fair? Almost the rest of the offense?

523
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Speaker 1: How to find someone who's basically the generic version of

524
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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray? Well, in other words, I mean, you're going

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Speaker 1: to spend this entire offseason installing an offense or let's face,

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Speaker 1: let's say Cole McCoy that type of quarterback, and then

527
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Speaker 1: how different does it have to be once Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: takes over. If you're indeed gonna sign a quarterback, why

529
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Speaker 1: not sign a dual threat quarterback that everyone can get

530
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Speaker 1: accustomed to in the new scheme and system, so you

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Speaker 1: minimize a learning for everyone, and then the transition period

532
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Speaker 1: when Kyler comes back, you'd have to be able to

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Speaker 1: do it similarly to Kyler Murray's lovel who's out there

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Speaker 1: that would even be an option for that? Yeah? Right,

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Speaker 1: I feel like you have to do your offense the

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Speaker 1: way you would with Kyler, and you're just using a

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Speaker 1: backup quarterback and kind of adjusting things that if you

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Speaker 1: had to do that in the middle of the season.

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Speaker 1: That's why you're drafted a number one overall, because really

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Speaker 1: you can count on one hand how many quarterbacks like

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray I don't exist. And the other question is is, again,

542
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: how much are you going to be running Kyler Murray

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00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: when he first comes back from an eclaire yep, good point, true.

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Speaker 1: How much are you going to be running Kyler Murray period? Honestly,

545
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Speaker 1: I don't see a lot of quarterback power in his future.

546
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Speaker 1: I really don't. And besides, he's been on the record

547
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Speaker 1: from day one that he's much more comfortable with it

548
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: being organic, with being more of a Patrick Mahomes. You

549
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Speaker 1: saw Patrick Molomes did in the Super Ool obviously with

550
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: any six yards scramble right, talking about like in Vegas

551
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, Yes, yes, exactly. You know what. I go

552
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: through my first three or four reads. It's not there. Um, okay,

553
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Speaker 1: watch this time to improvise. Guess what, dbs have their

554
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Speaker 1: backs to me. They're playing, you know man, and they

555
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: got their backs to me, and there's twenty yards open

556
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: green in front of me. I'm gone, you know. So

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Speaker 1: I do agree with you guys. I don't see a

558
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 1: lot of Lamar Jackson run game. I don't think like

559
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Daniel Jones ran at seventeen times in that

560
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Speaker 1: playoff win. That was remarkable to watch Daniel Jones when

561
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: they all those design runs the Giants had in that

562
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: big win to start their playoffs. So I am curious.

563
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: But then again, Jalen Hurts had a lot of design runs,

564
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Speaker 1: did he not? Again, Nick Rowlis said this to me

565
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: about the defense, But I think Gannon's gonna look at

566
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Speaker 1: this totally, which is I think I think it'd be

567
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Speaker 1: real easy to fall into a trap. And we're gonna say,

568
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: especially offensively, Jalen hurts this, and Jalen hurts that, I'm

569
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: not one hundred percent sure it's gonna look like that.

570
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Speaker 1: I mean, the Cardinals don't have the same size of

571
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: a quarterback, they don't have the same size receivers. At

572
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: this moment, you're you're just not don't offensive line well,

573
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: obviously the offensive line isn't good. I mean I'm trying

574
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: to get more towards like how they're built, less than

575
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: like how good the roster is, because obviously the Eagles

576
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: roster is better. They made a Super Bowl. But you know,

577
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: Rollis said, look, I'm not coming in here to copy paste. Hey,

578
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Speaker 1: look what the twenty twenty two Eagles defense did. This

579
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: is what we're gonna do with the Cardinals. No, He's like,

580
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to see who the players are for the

581
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three Cardinals are and then that we're going

582
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: to do it from that. And that's that adaptability. And again,

583
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: there's going to be guidelines you have to have. I

584
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: don't you know, Jonathan Gannon can talk about not having

585
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: playbooks stuff, But obviously there's going to be guidelines. But

586
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think there is anything set in stone.

587
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: And I think it's dangerous to sit here and say, oh,

588
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna look they're gonna try and replicate the Eagles

589
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: offense right now. By the way, that's a good segue

590
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: here on Cardinals underground, mocubio specific office automation, the two

591
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: person game we're running right here. When you talk about

592
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Speaker 1: adaptability and you're talking about personnel, it reminds me of

593
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Speaker 1: what Michael Bidwell told Day Passion the Pashpod about how

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals current system evaluating players for the draft is

595
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: quote about to become our former system of best player available,

596
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: and that's going to be in the past. That right now,

597
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: manti Asenford, out of necessity is adapting to the Cardinal's

598
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: current long standing system. But through this draft, through this draft, Yeah,

599
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Speaker 1: as soon as we get through the twenty twenty three draft,

600
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Speaker 1: guess what in three two one, it's going to be

601
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: blowed up. Somebody hit the big red button and out

602
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: it goes, and they're going to bring in a system

603
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: that's gonna look a lot like the New England or

604
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: Tennessee draft evaluation system modified to a certain degree where

605
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: guess what they're looking for specific traits and characteristics in

606
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: players that will fit the Cardinals system going forward. I

607
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: think that's interesting and I like that idea, but it

608
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: still comes down to players. One of the reasons the

609
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: Patriots system worked so well for so long was because

610
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Speaker 1: of number twelve behind center. I mean, they're still doing

611
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: the same things in New England that they've always done

612
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: in terms of finding players, and they've struggled because they

613
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback. And you know, it's it's funny,

614
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: you don't get hammered as much. But the Patriots drafts

615
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: have not been great. And again Monte Austin Ford has

616
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Speaker 1: made very clear like he is not the same thing.

617
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: I'm not coming here to copy paste what New England

618
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Speaker 1: or Tennessee did. I'll be curious to know if we

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00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: get more details on what those changes are. Is it

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00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: how they're grading, it's how they're stacked, How does that

621
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Speaker 1: exactly work, and how might that trickle down. I'm sure

622
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: that the way the fans are out right now, they're

623
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: fine with whatever change you want to make to how

624
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: things are drafted, because it hasn't gone as well as

625
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: you would have hoped. How do you say we get

626
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: some more than information at the Combine and Indie next week.

627
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: I'm over that. I'm all over that. That sounds good

628
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: to me. There you go. Well, Michael Bidwell did confirm

629
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: that the Cardinals are going to be all about beefing

630
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: up the offensive line and the defensive line in that order.

631
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: The first two priorities help at corner. He mentioned, obviously

632
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: we got to get to the quarterback. We got to

633
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,479
Speaker 1: rush the passer, especially in the NFC West, you know,

634
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: rebuild that D line, those D tackles, especially with JJ

635
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: Watt retiring. So these are all priorities. These are all

636
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: front burner. And he listed Zach Allen by name, a

637
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: pending free agent, which I thought was interesting as a priority,

638
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: and he said Zach shares the sentiment he wants to

639
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: be back. Cardinals do want Zach Allen? What do you

640
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: think that might happen? Maybe during the combine week, who knows,

641
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: it's your own guy. I think there's a I think

642
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: what's going to happen during the combine is whether it's

643
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: supposed to or not. I think Zach Allen's representation is

644
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: going to get a good idea of what his market

645
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: value might be, and then you can have some discussion.

646
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: That's true. I forgot about that. It's sort of an

647
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: open market place, all right. Or the meeting and the

648
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: minds of the combine Murphy maybe maybe, I man, what

649
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: is his status in the all season right now with

650
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: that back injury is is there a long term deal

651
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: in his future or seeing enough to be on a

652
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: one year improve it. I think that's a fantastic question

653
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: because given his circumstances, he might be in a situation

654
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: where it might have to be a one year prove it. Yeah,

655
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: it's so, And would that be here or would he

656
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: potentially follow Vance Joseph to wherever Vance Joseph goes. But

657
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: it was interesting, Dear Michael bid Will also talk about

658
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: Montie Austenford and just how he separated himself from the

659
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: rest of the GAM candidates because he was the single

660
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: candidate who had actually vetted out a list of potential

661
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 1: head coaches. He had actually done zoom interviews last year

662
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: on his own time, his own dime June and July,

663
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: during a dead period in the NFL. He got his

664
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: list of ted head coaching candidates or so, and he

665
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: did zoom interviews and he immediately ruled out a couple

666
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: And Michael said, you know what, in an offseason where

667
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: we had to hire a GM and then hire a

668
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: head coach and oh, by the way, we were hosting

669
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty seven. Yeah, it was clearly helpful. We

670
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 1: were able to accelerate the process a little bit because

671
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,959
Speaker 1: there were some big names out there that we weren't

672
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 1: necessarily interested in. Based on a prior interview that Monti

673
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: Asuport had had was said candidate and it makes sense.

674
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: I can't remember where I read or saw it, but

675
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: awesome Fort was saying he did that because he realized

676
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: going into interviews of what coaches would he be interested

677
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: in interviewing, he hadn't actually any of those coaches. I

678
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: think he talked about it in Gannon's introductory press conference.

679
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: It actually has been a lot of press I know.

680
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: I know Albert Brier, credit to him. He's the one

681
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: who first brought it up before Gannon got hired and

682
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: brought up that's why Gannon was on the list. But

683
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: Awesome for It went into it longer, and that's exactly

684
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: what he said, Danny. He's basically said, these these owners

685
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: ask you in these meetings about who you would want

686
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: to hire, and you bring up these names, and some

687
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: of them you you've never actually had any personal contact with.

688
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: And he wanted to make sure the ones that he

689
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: did not know, he got to know, and Gannon was

690
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: one of them. By the way, do you see on

691
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: the Rich Eyes and Show, the lead anchor fro NFL Network,

692
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: they played the what if game on his radio program,

693
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: and the what if game had to do with the

694
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: Cardinals in the next two years, and it's what if

695
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 1: went something like this, what if Kyler Murray doesn't come

696
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: back as soon as everyone thinks this season and gets

697
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: to the point where there's so many losses in the

698
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: season and let's face to the Cardinals a rebuilding that

699
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: maybe they just decide to shut him down for the

700
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 1: entire season, which I think is a complete long shop.

701
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: And anyway, they're playing the what if game, and they

702
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: got airtime to fill, and they've already divested themselves of

703
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: assets like DeAndre Hopkins, etc. So what if the Cardinals

704
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: wind up in the same spot as the current Chicago Bears,

705
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: drafting number one overall and Caleb Williams is sitting out there. Wow,

706
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: this is a big leap all over the pane. And

707
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: then the other guy jumped in and said, what you're

708
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: gonna rosen Kyler Murray using rosen as a verb because

709
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: that's once upon a time what the Cardinals did to

710
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: Rosen with Kyler Murray, and so they gave their own

711
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: two year possible view on where the Cardinals could be going,

712
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: which is intriguing because now what's happening with the Chicago Bears.

713
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: You're hurting You're hearing trade rumors with Justin Fields? Are

714
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: you not we already at that point in the offseason

715
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 1: where it's just talking about random stuff because you don't

716
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: have anything else to talk about. You know what You're right,

717
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: feels too early for that, not not necessarily you, Paul, No,

718
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: let's rip the latest mock draft. And we love Daniel Jeremiah,

719
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: but I gotta rip this one thing. He has the

720
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: Cardinals taking Tyree Wilson number three out of Texas Tech,

721
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: and Will Anderson fall into number five. Okay, And I'm like, Okay,

722
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: do I really know a lot about Tyree Wilson? How

723
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: many games have I seen a Will Anderson? Okay? So

724
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: I clicked on the Scutter Reports, and the Scoutter report

725
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: on Will Anderson as weaknesses listed some minor matters. You know,

726
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: his motor needs to stay turned up throughout the entire game.

727
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: You know, you know his stride length at times, I'm like, Okay,

728
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: not everybody can be Chandler Jones. You know, a little

729
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: things like this. He needs to develop hand counters. Okay,

730
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: all right, some nitpicking with will Anderson. You want to

731
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: hear the weaknesses on Tyree Wilson and the scutter report

732
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: on NFL dot com. Lacks explosive get off and ability

733
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: to bend. That's kind of a problem for an edge rusher.

734
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: That's the first weakness. Play can be upright and narrow

735
00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: at the point of attack. That's a significant problem. Dopy

736
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: right there, Paul First, there's more slower to process movement

737
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: and loses his contain, allows blockers into his frame, and

738
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: needs to attack blocks. Okay, these seem to be pretty

739
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: major flaws game. Yes, this is one of those chat Ruder,

740
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: did these scoutter? Okay, So NFL dot com has this

741
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: scouting report and NFL dot Com has a mock draft

742
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: having him going then top five exactly. Something's not in

743
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: sync there, That's what I'm saying. Well, I guess that's

744
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: my point, Like, either he's not a high pick or

745
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: he is a high pick. If he is a high pick,

746
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: then this scouting report sucks. That's my point is the

747
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: scoutter report belies the draft position on both appear. Song.

748
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: So you're I thought you were talking about the possibility

749
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: because there was another mock draft that I saw. I

750
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: forget who did it wasn't NFL dot Com that had

751
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: the Cardinals taking him and Anderson going to the Seahawks

752
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: at five. Yeah, that I might not have explained this

753
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: very That's what I was saying. That's right, So Tyree

754
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: Wilson number three, I guess that's my point, will Anderson falling.

755
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: But Will Anderson's flaws on this same platform NFL dot

756
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: Com are very minor. Well, but see I'm saying, take

757
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: Will Anderson out of it. Will Anderson has nothing to

758
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 1: do with it. My point is is is the guy

759
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: a top five picker? Is he not a ToIP fight?

760
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,959
Speaker 1: Like I'd like to know what Chad Ruter thinks where

761
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: he should get drafted because with that scouting report right, well,

762
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: that's like a third round pick, right, I'm big serious? Yeah,

763
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: I know that's what I thought. I mean. So, I mean,

764
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: every single mock draft out there has Tyree Wilson go

765
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: in top ten. Okay, but see that's what my point.

766
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: You look at these flaws like see that's where I get.

767
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: That's where I have the issue, Like if you that's

768
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: why I want to know where he would put them,

769
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: because every year you find that where it's like some

770
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: dude who ends up going top ten even in hindsight,

771
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: guys that end up being really good, and some guy's like,

772
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: oh yeah, he was a he's a third round pick.

773
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: During his sophomore year. By the way, at Alabama, Will

774
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: Anderson was nicknamed the Terminator. More place I'll take the

775
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: guy who at Alabama was nicknamed the terminator and someone

776
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: the Bronco Nagurski Award as a sophomore. Somebody, somebody had

777
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: Terrell Suggs as a third round pick when he was

778
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: coming out. I remember that very because of the bad

779
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: forty right. I don't know why, but they had him

780
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: as a third round pick. Okay, you can argue he

781
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: should be going later in the first but as a

782
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: third round pick, the dude had twenty six sacks or

783
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: twenty five sacks? What the issue is? Last year, by

784
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: the way, Will Anderson was SEC Defensive Player of the

785
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: Year two years in a row. Just just thought i'd

786
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: throw that out there before you give me the tyree

787
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: Wilson stuff and all the major flaws in this guy.

788
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Danny, I went off on a run. Don't apologize.

789
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying this. I just it's gonna be one of

790
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: many when it comes to these mock drafts. Between now

791
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: and Lady's gonna mock the mock draft. That's right, we

792
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: put the mock into mock draft. Feel though you feel

793
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: about mock drafts the way Darren feels about power rankings.

794
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of mock drafts either. I'm

795
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: just cynical though. I been around this a long time,

796
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: and it's like even the draft process, and I know

797
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: fans get really upset because so many fans love the

798
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: draft process, and I'm kind of like, hey, could you

799
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: just let us know what who the Cardinals take and

800
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: I'll write about them. We just skip ahead of that, well,

801
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: I mean, like, bring on the combine. Think of last year, right,

802
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: Think of last year, everything we put into the draft

803
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: and then we found out on draft night of the

804
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: first round. I recall you recall at the draft party, Yes,

805
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: because I was a recall being on air. Yes, we're

806
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: all bidying our time. You were filling time. I was

807
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: bidying time hosting the draft party, I had one eye

808
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: on the car and the Sun's playoff game on the

809
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: big screen, and then the h and then the whole

810
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: dramatic reenactorn once again in my year piece say Paul

811
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and I'm like, okay, calm down. We

812
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 1: just traded our pick. Really, yeah, we traded for Hollywood Brown,

813
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: the Ravens receiver. Yep. And he's gonna be there in

814
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: like fifteen minutes. He's gonna be here. What do you

815
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: mean he's gonna be here. He just got traded from Baltimore. No,

816
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: he's on the way from Vegas with Michael. I'm like, okay, well, um,

817
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: I guess that's been in the works. Great. So from

818
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: there we the Hollywood Hollywood Chance break out of the

819
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: Cardinals drap party. So you never quite know what's gonna

820
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: happen exactly, you know. I mean, heck, if they can

821
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: release Fast and Furious ten, because I just saw a

822
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: trailer for Fast and Furious ten the other day, than

823
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 1: anything's possible, right, seen any of them? None of them all,

824
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: that's it. None of them. I've seen one of them.

825
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: Maybe I saw actually one of the ones I saw

826
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: wasn't even that. I saw the spinoff one with the

827
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: rock and uh, what's his name? Oh yeah, and uh

828
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: stid him? Or what Jason's Yeah, Jason's Yeah. I enjoyed

829
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, that's finally, I guess. I mean it's uh,

830
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: they've they've gotten progressively worse. That's that's for sure. I

831
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: think most people would agree. The polypathetic in me is

832
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: that I will actually buy a ticket and go to

833
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: Fast and Furious ten just for the cars. So that's

834
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: basically in the stunts, that's the only reason I go.

835
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: And I'm not really proud of it. So any final

836
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: thoughts any other Gannon vibes that you know I have

837
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: been overwhelming? They feel compelled to share other encounters. So Darren,

838
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: you said you were behind the scenes during the photo shoot,

839
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: anything else, Danny? Did you have any one on ones

840
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: in the brand new TV studio that I haven't even been?

841
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: I don't think my keycard even works for the New

842
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: TV Studio, to be honest with, they don't even allow

843
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: me in there. The only one on one interview I

844
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: have was with head coach Jonathan Gannon, which I thought

845
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: he was pretty good at. Not to tooot my own horn,

846
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: but he had some pretty good answers. It showed off

847
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: just a small part of our new studio. There's still

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Speaker 1: parts of the studio we haven't shown off yet, but

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Speaker 1: it's really beautiful. So go check that out on the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals YouTube channel, website, social media channels. Speaking of which,

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Flight Plan is returning premiers this season. Premiere's Thursday

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Speaker 1: at seven pm on the official YouTube channel. For those

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Speaker 1: of you who don't know, it's in exclusive behind the

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Speaker 1: scenes docuseries about the organization, and there's going to be

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Speaker 1: a couple episodes throughout the offseason. Normally do we do

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Speaker 1: it throughout the year as well, but with Hard Knocks,

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Speaker 1: we weren't going to compete with that. So I know

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Speaker 1: this first episode is really going to be focused on

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Speaker 1: I believe hiring Monty awesome for and really on Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Gannon in the start of this coaching staff, and it's

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Speaker 1: going to be it's gonna be pretty cool. Thursday at

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Speaker 1: seven is when it premieres. It's gonna be some appointment viewing,

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Speaker 1: no doubt. I mean, that's gonna be some good stuff

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Speaker 1: beyond the scenes. Think of I mean, think of what's

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Speaker 1: are just the little snippets that have been released on Twitter. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean a number of talk shows around the country.

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Speaker 1: In fact, that's how Rich Eisen started the segment, was

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Speaker 1: they played the video and played the audio of just

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Speaker 1: all the interactions Jonathan Gannon meeting the players and dapping

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Speaker 1: it up and all that kind of stuff, and and

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Speaker 1: and the crew because there's a number of you know,

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Speaker 1: bit players in that radio show were all amazed at

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Speaker 1: the access. That was their comment. That was their immediate reaction.

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Speaker 1: As you know, they don't see acy Cardinals dot com

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Speaker 1: or the Cardinals YouTube page very often, probably they're on

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Speaker 1: the East coast, but boom. The first thing their reaction

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Speaker 1: was wild, look at that sort of access. They're following

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Speaker 1: them everywhere in the facility. And you're right, there's a

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Speaker 1: reason why it's won Emmy's because of the all access

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Speaker 1: in this series, and it's kind of gotten a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a facelift. It's been around since twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 1: the series, but new theme song. I think I knew

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Speaker 1: we have a new editor, new main editor who's kind

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Speaker 1: of taking a little bit different tack to it. So

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's worth checking out on a

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Speaker 1: lot of different levels. All right, there you go. We'll

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Speaker 1: leave with that. We'll leave you know, Dan, you leave

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Speaker 1: him wanting more and boom Cardinals flight Plant. Well, not

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Speaker 1: only that, Paul, but we will not be with you

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Speaker 1: in person next week for Cardinals on the Ground, Darren,

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Speaker 1: I will be from the combine at Indie, So we'll

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Speaker 1: still have an episode, but we will not be here

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Speaker 1: in person with you. Unfortunately. Over the phone, I'm thinking, so,

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Speaker 1: what is the game plan you guys are going to

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Speaker 1: be there most of next week? Is that when the

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Speaker 1: combine is Monday to Friday? Wow? Okay, all right, there

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Speaker 1: you go, And so, yeah, you guys, tell me I'll

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Speaker 1: be on your schedule. You guys are racing around. I'll

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Speaker 1: accommodate whatever fits your schedule the best. And uh do

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Speaker 1: tell I always look forward to all the anecdotes and information.

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Speaker 1: Now I think about it, we'll have to see what

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Speaker 1: the timing is. But I mean, there's probably no reason

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Speaker 1: why we can't just record this as usual because we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be two hours ahead and it'll be at the

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Speaker 1: end of our day. It's a rhetorical question, but you

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Speaker 1: already have your dinner reservations, restaurant reservations, that are you

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Speaker 1: kidding me? For Saint Almos. As soon as we had

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Speaker 1: an idea of the head count, probably two or three

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, I made a reservation, and believe it or not,

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Speaker 1: even then it was only like two time slots available

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Speaker 1: for this one day for a party of our size,

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Speaker 1: which isn't even that big. See, I'm many years you've

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Speaker 1: been going to Indie wait for the combine. I've been

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Speaker 1: there every year since two thousand and one. This is

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Speaker 1: my third year. See, and what was I just guilty

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Speaker 1: of when I said dinner reservations? I looked at Darren

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Speaker 1: just because of the experience factor. But see, experience has

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Speaker 1: nothing that you gonna do with the age, when in

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Speaker 1: fact Danny was the one who got it done and

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Speaker 1: executed it. So that's how we come full circle? Do

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Speaker 1: we not? Thank you? Paul? That whole that whole thing

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Speaker 1: about right age and experience and knowledge. And if I

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Speaker 1: can remember the saying exactly, it'll be a lot better.

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Speaker 1: What's the saying? If you want something done right the

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Speaker 1: first time, have a woman do it all right? On

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Speaker 1: the sign here it is experience is not synonymous with knowledge.

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Speaker 1: Have a twenty nine year old woman do it I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't know. I'm not twenty nine. Oh wow. I can

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Speaker 1: always get worse, and it just did. That happened. There's

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Speaker 1: no way that happened. Way. We've both got finger that's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Now we're really done. A Cardinal's Underground brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Pacific Office Automation Away