1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Peter, You write that much of the blame for Uber's 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: legal troubles has been directed at the former CEO, Travis Kalanik, 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: who wanted to test the law explain that and the 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: support for that. Well, uh, he hired people who shared 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: his view that it was okay to push legal boundaries 6 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: and two pick fights with regulators in cities all over 7 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: the world. And that strategy uh got Uber into a 8 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: fair amount of legal trouble, and the new CEO went 9 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: on an apology tour to try to smooth out disputes 10 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: in various cities. So which problems has Uber managed to resolve? 11 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: Legal problems? Well, uh, you You may recall it had 12 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: a big lawsuit over trade secret staffed by Alphabet inks 13 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: WEYMO unit over self driving technology, and that was in 14 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: the middle of a trial last year when a settlement 15 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: was suddenly reached. Uh, so that went away. And then 16 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: also Uber faced uh allegations of a toxic workplace environment, 17 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: particularly for women engineers, and a lawsuit over that was 18 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: settled with a ten million dollar payment for more than 19 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: four hundred women, female and minority engineers over sexual harassment 20 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: and gender UH disparity in pay claims, and Uber has 21 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: also managed to undo an operations ban in London, one 22 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: of its biggest markets. UH and Uber also managed to 23 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 1: UH quietly settle claim aims that it's UH drivers UM 24 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: UH sexually harassed or abused UH female passengers. Is there 25 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: a problem still with its basic business model of drivers 26 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: who are not employees but independent contractors? That is actually 27 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: one of the biggest issues that Uber has yet to resolve, 28 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: because it's business model hinges on paying independent contractors a 29 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: wage that doesn't cover benefits and other perks typically offered 30 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: to full time employees. And so if if courts in 31 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: the UK, Europe, and the US we're all to decide 32 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: that Uber needs to treat those drivers as employees, the 33 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: cost of its workforce would rise dramatically. Are they facing 34 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: criminal investigations? We don't know the status of various criminal 35 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: probes which were said to have been in play back 36 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: at the end of two thousand seventeen, and Uber hasn't 37 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: said anything about various probes over UH from the Justice 38 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: Department over everything from UH pricing to allegations of using 39 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: UH spywear to keep tabs on its competitors, And the 40 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: Justice Department hasn't said anything either. So UH, we we 41 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: don't know exactly where those investigations are at. Describe a 42 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: little bit more how Derrak Kasra Shah he is acting 43 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: as CEO as far as the lawsuits and how different 44 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: he is from Klinic. Well, he brought in very early 45 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: in his tenure UH new management, including a new General Council, 46 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: Eric Holder, who came from the Justice Department, and UH 47 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: he has made it a priority to UH, as I mentioned, 48 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: travel to various cities to deal with regulatory disputes and 49 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: also for his UM legal team to resolve outstanding issues 50 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: and also just to send a message throughout them throughout 51 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: the company's workforce that UM compliance is important and that 52 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: cutting corners UH, particularly in ways that may be illegal 53 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: or unethical, is not going to be tolerated. What does 54 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: this mean for an I p O? Is he going 55 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: to be able to be on track with taking U 56 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: republic within what eighteen to their six months? Right? So 57 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: he he came on board UM and and and projected 58 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: UH one and a half to three years from August 59 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen, and UH he still is on track. 60 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: The issue at the moment is that UBER has submitted 61 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: confidential filings for review by the Securities Exchange Commission before 62 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: it can formally do its uh initial public offering, and 63 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: UH it's it's believed that that that review has been 64 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: somewhat delayed by the government shutdown, the thirty five day shutdown, 65 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: and that uh um the sec still needs to give 66 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: feedback to Uber before it can UH formalize it's going public. 67 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: What kind of impact monetarily did the scandals and the 68 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: settling of these lawsuits have on uber bottom line? Well, UH, Initially, 69 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: UH it knocked a big chunk almost a third of 70 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: Uber's valuation at the time sixty nine billion dollars. Uber 71 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: was one of the very uh most valuable UM startups 72 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: on the planet. And since then, UM, uber has managed 73 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: to regain that valuation and then some. It's now valued 74 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: in the low seventy billions UM and is you know, 75 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: still uh somewhere in the in the very top of 76 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: of of UH startups. So um uh you know. So, 77 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: So the bottom line is Uber has been able to 78 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: weather these these these with legal difficulties. But we don't 79 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: know exactly how much Uber has spent along the way 80 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: because it's not a public company and there's not full 81 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: transparency about uh, it's expenses for legal costs and such. 82 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: All right, thanks so much, Peter. It's a great article. 83 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: That's Peter Bloomberg. He is Bloomberg News Legal editor, and 84 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,679 Speaker 1: the article is Uber's drive to clean up its act 85 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: en route to an I p O