Speaker 1: Blood on the Tracks is the production of I Heart
Speaker 1: Radio and Double Elvis. Phil Spector was a musical genius,
Speaker 1: one of the most successful record producers of all time.
Speaker 1: He's now sitting behind bars, serving a nineteen years to
Speaker 1: life sentence for murder. This is the story told by
Speaker 1: his so called friends. Is this special Agent Paul Ramon
Speaker 1: with the Federal Bureau of Investigation work in case number
Speaker 1: double oh four Dash ten Dash seven one nine case
Speaker 1: subject as Specter Philip Harvey. This information pertains to a
Speaker 1: period ending September thirty two to interview subject as Turner
Speaker 1: Isaiah Luster Jr. A k A I Interview number oh
Speaker 1: Dash five one dash nine six six Dash six six
Speaker 1: six Spirit Confessional Recall number five marked first two thousand
Speaker 1: five h For any black artists in America to make
Speaker 1: any tune, it has to go to the top ten
Speaker 1: on the arm Beach hots before the top forty station
Speaker 1: will touch him. And River Deep, Mountain High. It was
Speaker 1: not a black record. Don't want to make the top
Speaker 1: ten on the arm beach hots. That's why the top
Speaker 1: forty radio station wouldn't play. The black jockey said it
Speaker 1: was too white. The white jockey said it was too
Speaker 1: black you made what Phil said about River d Now
Speaker 1: and High. This is a few years later after the
Speaker 1: record Life nine K sixty nine. Okay, he said today
Speaker 1: that song could have been a number one record today,
Speaker 1: like a couple of years wouldn't made any difference. He said,
Speaker 1: when it came out, it was like his farewell must
Speaker 1: have been one hell of a secret and farewell okay,
Speaker 1: because he might have said nothing, none of us in
Speaker 1: the studio. And then he said, I was just saying goodbye,
Speaker 1: and I just want to go crazy, full fatness, full
Speaker 1: us on wax. That's on once time he said, I
Speaker 1: got what I wanted out of the two. Of course
Speaker 1: he did, man, how of course he got what he
Speaker 1: wanted out of Then the proof is then and that
Speaker 1: part of Man and Old Water on the Tracks Chapter four,
Speaker 1: Phil Specter and Ike Turner m hm. Now, see, I
Speaker 1: feel like this whole thing is y'all want me to
Speaker 1: sell the man out. Do you want me to tell
Speaker 1: you all the dirty stuff, all the stuff to vilify
Speaker 1: him and all that, like he's some kind of boogeyman
Speaker 1: or some ship. Then okay, sure, maybe the guy did
Speaker 1: some ship. Okay, maybe he made some mistakes and didn't
Speaker 1: always do right by everyone in the room. Look takes
Speaker 1: one to know one. Okay, Lord knows I made my
Speaker 1: share mistakes. I know always do right by everyone. I
Speaker 1: was reacted. I lost my temper. Then Fiel did the same. Man,
Speaker 1: I don't know that I would say we were friends. Okay,
Speaker 1: but game recognized this game. Man, it was for that bason.
Speaker 1: Phil was scared of me. He was terrified of me.
Speaker 1: Just ask Danny Davis. Go ask him, man, I'll wait
Speaker 1: any Davis news up. Any time you were questioning, when
Speaker 1: Phil tells you about this or that, Just running by
Speaker 1: Danny Davis. Now, Phil, Phil saw me and Tina played
Speaker 1: the Big T and T Show. That thing was like
Speaker 1: the Tammy Show, right, but it was a movie and
Speaker 1: it had all kinds of people, white, black, whatever, votedly
Speaker 1: and raged halls, the birds and Donovan. This it's the
Speaker 1: greatest LA music time. The show phils to produced so
Speaker 1: or musical direct or some ship and so we close
Speaker 1: the show. Tina was wearing that funny cat. I told
Speaker 1: her not to wear that hat. Not that she always
Speaker 1: listened to me. Phil told everybody that Tina just blew
Speaker 1: him away. He said, now, quote, I was just devastated
Speaker 1: by her. Now. I said it before and I'll say
Speaker 1: it again. Tina was okay, there were better singers and
Speaker 1: better dances. What Everttina is now couldn't hold a candle
Speaker 1: to whatever Tina was before. I listened to her now,
Speaker 1: and I don't even recognize her. Man. I loved her,
Speaker 1: I did love her, okay, but I don't love her.
Speaker 1: I don't even like her anymore, whatever she is, man.
Speaker 1: But Phil just starts talking about Tina. Tina, Tina, Tina, okay, fine.
Speaker 1: He sees his talent in Tina and thinks her destiny
Speaker 1: is on Ed Sullivan in Las Vegas. He wants to
Speaker 1: record I can Tina Turner. He says. What that really
Speaker 1: means is that he wants Tina. Well he doesn't tell
Speaker 1: everyone is that I could turn her scares the ship
Speaker 1: out of him. I could tell it the first time
Speaker 1: I met him. Man, here's robably scared to death when
Speaker 1: he saw me on the Big t NT show. You know,
Speaker 1: because I didn't live around wildly like Tina. I stood
Speaker 1: there straight as in the row man and play my
Speaker 1: guitar all business. Phil was saying, close he could to me,
Speaker 1: not too close, okay, he didn't dare get too close.
Speaker 1: He's standing there in his tall shoes and his big head.
Speaker 1: Most definitely a wig. Okay. Again, takes one to know
Speaker 1: one right, and I swear to God I can see
Speaker 1: his little body tremble. So he comes to my house,
Speaker 1: tell me he wants Ike and Tina minus Ike. Okay.
Speaker 1: He says that they're gonna make this number one record.
Speaker 1: It's gonna change everything. Tina will become the biggest star.
Speaker 1: But that was always but he wanted to be in control.
Speaker 1: He wanted to tell Tina what to do. He just
Speaker 1: couldn't stand the thought of having me involved this ship. Man.
Speaker 1: At least he knew enough to say it up run.
Speaker 1: He owned it to a certain degree, even though he
Speaker 1: would never come right out and say I turned to
Speaker 1: scares me to death, whatever, man, I told him straight up,
Speaker 1: if you think you can make this incredible record with
Speaker 1: Tina on your own without me there, go for it.
Speaker 1: Show me what you can do. Man. I don't want,
Speaker 1: but I made some demands on my own. I told Phil,
Speaker 1: I wanted my name on that record, regardless of what
Speaker 1: or now I played on it. I wanted my name
Speaker 1: before Tina's name, like it always was, and I got it.
Speaker 1: There was two chickenship to negotiate with. That. Okay, So
Speaker 1: Tina starts going to Phil's mansion in l A. That
Speaker 1: baby went up a lot, Collina. They summer hearsing it
Speaker 1: feels playing piano and having Tina go through the motions.
Speaker 1: And he's real stracted like I was real stripped with
Speaker 1: my band. I left my review with a pistol one
Speaker 1: hand and the other hand clutched real tight. I charged
Speaker 1: ten bucks if one of the girls had a running
Speaker 1: the stockins, twenty five bucks if they laughed too damn laugh.
Speaker 1: But as tough as I was with the band members,
Speaker 1: I also let Tina do her own thing, taking the
Speaker 1: way she's saying. Man off stage may have been another
Speaker 1: story behind closed doors is always different. Man on the stage.
Speaker 1: I controlled the players. At least even if I couldn't
Speaker 1: control Tina, nobody could control Tina. Plus I stood behind Tina,
Speaker 1: washed her, shake her ass, and those tight many skirts
Speaker 1: I bought for her. I convinced to the war those
Speaker 1: they got tighter and short as the years went on,
Speaker 1: I convinced to the start wearing the brawl to see
Speaker 1: I control of Tina until she hit that stage and
Speaker 1: then she let loose. Now Phil Spector comes in and
Speaker 1: he wants to control Tina. She would come back from
Speaker 1: those rehearsals at his manch to tell me that she
Speaker 1: can't sing the song the way she wants to sing
Speaker 1: the song. She has to sing it the way Phil
Speaker 1: tells her to sing. If she deviates, he stops and
Speaker 1: they start over again. No improvisation, no Tina being Tina
Speaker 1: for better or for worse. You understand, they'll wanted Tina
Speaker 1: to be what Phil wanted Tina to be, and he'd
Speaker 1: get it too. I knew what he was doing. I
Speaker 1: knew how he did it. Like I said, man, game,
Speaker 1: recognize his game. Phil sabotage his own damn record. I
Speaker 1: swear to god he Toltina back when we started this
Speaker 1: whole River Deep, Mountain High business, that it was gonna
Speaker 1: be the biggest song in the world, that she was
Speaker 1: gonna be the biggest star in the world because of
Speaker 1: the record. Right, she would be the biggest because he
Speaker 1: made her the biggest seat. And it was great. Man.
Speaker 1: I think River Deep Mountain High is as much a
Speaker 1: work of art as good Vibrations. Okay, the two should
Speaker 1: be talked about as the two best songs of nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty six, no doubt. But Phil was the first accepton
Speaker 1: and drive to find him els in his coffin, at
Speaker 1: least here in the States. He took these full page
Speaker 1: ads out in the trades, you know, and billboard and
Speaker 1: cash box that just said River Deep Mountain High number
Speaker 1: one in England. Benedict Arnold was right. He did that
Speaker 1: sort of thing when he felt that his ego had
Speaker 1: been disrespected, when in fact it was really crushed. I mean,
Speaker 1: his ego was just crushed. He did it again when
Speaker 1: Lenny Bruce, did you know, took out that full page
Speaker 1: add that said Lenny Bruce was killed by an overdose
Speaker 1: of police. He just couldn't let ship slide and move on.
Speaker 1: This was his way of last. Now, now, the song
Speaker 1: was huge in the UK. They loved it over there
Speaker 1: because they loved Black American music. That's all the bands
Speaker 1: were playing over there, the Rolling Stones, the Beatles. And
Speaker 1: because they didn't put every song in the box, they
Speaker 1: didn't have to categorize it on compartmentalize it the way
Speaker 1: they do here. Black Talking to One was too blood
Speaker 1: the hierarchy of the charts here is it Saint shoot
Speaker 1: the talk to the hardy charge for talk. The song
Speaker 1: was caught between a rock and hard place and not
Speaker 1: even feel Specter with all his power and his people
Speaker 1: and his ego could dislodge that fucker wanted place. You know.
Speaker 1: He was riding high off all that stuff with the
Speaker 1: righteous Place. You've lost that love and feeling and unchained melody.
Speaker 1: You've lost that love and feeling is what the most
Speaker 1: played song of all time. So his ego was pretty well.
Speaker 1: With Ladd and Appli Just Want and then River Deep,
Speaker 1: Mountain High doesn't even make it past eight on the
Speaker 1: US charts. Phil got depressed. He thought he had it,
Speaker 1: had the golden touch, and he lost it again. He
Speaker 1: went back to his mansion, back into his bedroom. Dude
Speaker 1: didn't do all that when with failure, you know, and
Speaker 1: maybe I should have seen it coming. When we first
Speaker 1: set foot in that studio and gold Star, that little
Speaker 1: studio in Hollywood, when we first walked through that door
Speaker 1: off the alleyway, Tina nearly had a heart attack. She
Speaker 1: walked in. The door in the media was just like
Speaker 1: helda It was March ninety six. We walked in and
Speaker 1: there was like twenty or thirty people in there. It
Speaker 1: wasn't just a bad man. It was a fucking symphony.
Speaker 1: Two guitarists, two drummers, a damn choir, singers, white players,
Speaker 1: black players, Earl Palmer and Carol Kay and Leon Russell
Speaker 1: and Barney Kestle, the whole wrecking crew. That's what they
Speaker 1: call those casts ship. Phil cut them all in line
Speaker 1: just about as well as me. I said, just about Man,
Speaker 1: because I could look at him Man, and he changed
Speaker 1: the way he was playing in a second. Phil had
Speaker 1: to tell them repeatedly, what do you wanted? A big hit? There?
Speaker 1: Ba ba ba ba bla baka. Anyway, it wasn't just
Speaker 1: the Wrecking Crew musicians hanging around. Brian Wilson was there
Speaker 1: with Rodney Bergen High McJagger was there with Jack Nici,
Speaker 1: and uh Dennis Hopper was there too. Tina was completely
Speaker 1: unprepared for the people and the pressure. I mean, we
Speaker 1: both were, but she just rose up. She looked at
Speaker 1: me and told me she couldn't do it. She couldn't
Speaker 1: performed with all these people. She wasn't confident enough to
Speaker 1: deliver in front of all these people. Well that's when
Speaker 1: I stepped in. I told Phil that Tina couldn't end.
Speaker 1: You know, I just placed my chest right up against his,
Speaker 1: gotten his face a little closer than he was comfortable with.
Speaker 1: I said, Tina, ain't doing it this way, Jack, you
Speaker 1: know you can't feel a different name like that. And
Speaker 1: it just threw him off. I said, listen up, Jack.
Speaker 1: He just shot up to attention. He listened. He would
Speaker 1: pick up an apple core from the ash tray in
Speaker 1: the room and either while he nodded his head. Was
Speaker 1: that a power move? But I don't know, man, I
Speaker 1: think he's just disgusting. I told him I was taking
Speaker 1: Tina outside, and when he wanted to trim the fat
Speaker 1: and get his ship under control, we'll be back to
Speaker 1: cut the track. But when we didn't go back, Bill
Speaker 1: a dial back in the zoo, Tina sang like a
Speaker 1: motherfucker man. Take after take. She just gave it everything
Speaker 1: she had. She put so much into to that she
Speaker 1: nearly passed out. Man. The sweat was just stripping. It
Speaker 1: was on the edge of her lips, her eyelids hanging
Speaker 1: there on the tip of her nose. Sy sorry little
Speaker 1: carried away there. That room was small and hot and stuffy,
Speaker 1: and this tune was a pressure cooker. Your dick, Well,
Speaker 1: what are we we gonna do? What that brain? She got
Speaker 1: so hot in there that she took off her damn blouse,
Speaker 1: stripped right down to her brow. In the middle of
Speaker 1: gold Star, she asked if anyone were mind it. Before
Speaker 1: she heard a reply, she had pulled it off over
Speaker 1: her head. All the eyes in that room were simultaneously
Speaker 1: staring at her and trying to look away, you know,
Speaker 1: like should we shouldn't we? She put a lot into
Speaker 1: that performance, the rehearsals that feels, matching the session in
Speaker 1: the studio. She put her all into a man. And
Speaker 1: however I felt about being swept aside at the start
Speaker 1: of it all, it didn't matter. If the sting was
Speaker 1: gott a vault us into the stratosphere, we'd be finer
Speaker 1: than a frog has split four ways, you see. And
Speaker 1: then it was obvious that it wasn't going to be.
Speaker 1: But Phil thought it was going to be. He just
Speaker 1: lost interest, disappeared, just like he was no longer advocate.
Speaker 1: He distanced himself. It was the same ship he pulled
Speaker 1: with the Righteous Brothers and the rownets before them. He
Speaker 1: said it was all calculating, which you know he was
Speaker 1: saying just so he could save face and not look
Speaker 1: like a complete idiot. I don't know, man, I want
Speaker 1: to say he was a complete idiot, but he certainly
Speaker 1: swam those waters between idiotcy and genius. I've done some
Speaker 1: laughs in there, okay, then deep waters and long too.
Speaker 1: There's lots of places a man can get lost in
Speaker 1: there on this shore that he had most certainly washed
Speaker 1: up on the shore I couldn't tell you where it was.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this word word word. That
Speaker 1: taxi thing was years later, man, years later, Phil invited
Speaker 1: me to come to a party. Who was throwing that
Speaker 1: a bowling alley in Montrose, just a little north of Pasadena.
Speaker 1: Quick blip up the two ten. I'm gonna guess this
Speaker 1: is around two thousand and two. He had thrown a
Speaker 1: party there for his daughter a year earlier, when she
Speaker 1: was graduating high school. I believe it was and enjoyed
Speaker 1: getting back out in the public that he decided to
Speaker 1: make it an annual ship dead. I thought, oh, man,
Speaker 1: if nothing else, maybe there would be some ass I
Speaker 1: could chase around for an hour or too. Phil was
Speaker 1: just balls deep it regrets. I think he wished he
Speaker 1: had made this record or didn't make that one wish
Speaker 1: he had married this girl and not that one. Like
Speaker 1: I said, before I could relate. Okay, yeah, man, I
Speaker 1: was arresting something like twelve thirteen times for drugs, arrested
Speaker 1: even when the quote unquote drugs I was carrying was
Speaker 1: just baking. So man, I did time, pay debts and
Speaker 1: repay debts. I've been married ten times at least when
Speaker 1: it came to regrets and life choices for me, and
Speaker 1: Phil was empatical, you know what I'm saying. When Tina
Speaker 1: and I first lit up in the seventies, I took
Speaker 1: up a relationship with cocaine at last for years. Someone
Speaker 1: told me that ship would make your dick hard for hours,
Speaker 1: and that's all I needed here. My dick was hard
Speaker 1: for years. Man, what can I say? I like coke?
Speaker 1: Man who doesn't like coke? So what do I know?
Speaker 1: Maybe Phil had some old roller decks filled with other
Speaker 1: guys who had other regrets. I hadn't talked to him
Speaker 1: much in a while. No one had talked to him
Speaker 1: all that much. But he called me up and told
Speaker 1: me to come out to Montrose and we catch up.
Speaker 1: He told me he'd send a car to pick me
Speaker 1: up some nice stretched job. I waited and waited nothing,
Speaker 1: no stretched job. John called him back and I got
Speaker 1: his secret terry. She told me to take a cab
Speaker 1: and Phil will reimburse me when I got there. Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: trying to take the cab. When we pull up at
Speaker 1: the place in Montrose and tell the driver paying tight,
Speaker 1: someone will come out to pay you. Well. Almost an
Speaker 1: hour later, I'm inside enjoying myself, okay, and I find
Speaker 1: out that the driver is still sitting outside waiting to
Speaker 1: get paid. I say, hey, Phil, I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: be ungrateful here, but the cabby is idling outside, and
Speaker 1: you said you will for the bill, okay. I mean
Speaker 1: some days it was hard for me to string together
Speaker 1: a couple of bucks, and this was one of those days.
Speaker 1: And Phil says, yeah, yeah, yeah, man, I'll settle up
Speaker 1: with the guy. Just enjoy yourself. I'm thinking, okay, when
Speaker 1: exactly are you going to settle up with him? And
Speaker 1: he turns around and talks to someone else. I'm thinking, okay,
Speaker 1: this guy's not getting paid by Phil Spector. Next thing
Speaker 1: I know, I'm introducing a friend of mine to Phil,
Speaker 1: someone I brought with me to the party, and Phil
Speaker 1: is just an asshole man. He doesn't give a ship,
Speaker 1: you know, like big fucking whooped. He do works. God
Speaker 1: damn man, Phil Man wanted to get out and mingle
Speaker 1: with the public again. I don't know that he was ready,
Speaker 1: for sure. He wasn't ready. He was rusty. So I'm done.
Speaker 1: I leave the party, get back in the cab that's
Speaker 1: been sitting there for almost two hours. At this point,
Speaker 1: I get back home and make a call to ball
Speaker 1: Money to pay for the fact. I pay the driver
Speaker 1: with borrowed money. I was so out of my mind
Speaker 1: angry at this point, man, angry about it, all the money,
Speaker 1: the disrespect. Sure, So then I make another call, this
Speaker 1: time to film. I get the machine and I say,
Speaker 1: I'm going never the kind to kids ask and I
Speaker 1: never will be. You need to take a bong and
Speaker 1: look at yourself. I think you're a lonely man that
Speaker 1: I've been really sorry for you. I took that car
Speaker 1: over there, I didn't at your request, and then I
Speaker 1: found myself in an embarrassing position. You'll never guess what
Speaker 1: happens next. I get an overturn phone called no personal visit.
Speaker 1: But the very next day there's a knock on my door.
Speaker 1: I opened it and it's a delivery two dozen roses,
Speaker 1: a check from film made out to me for two grand,
Speaker 1: and a note that just says thank you for coming me.
Speaker 1: No apology, no explanation. All these years later, Man, his
Speaker 1: true colors are there still he's still terrified of me.
Speaker 1: He pulled that ship with the cab at the party
Speaker 1: to funk with me, to funk with me in front
Speaker 1: of a bowling alley full of friends and ask kisses.
Speaker 1: He knew he was safe there. And then he secretly
Speaker 1: sends me that care package at my house, you know,
Speaker 1: because he was too afraid to live on my bad side.
Speaker 1: I did all that for him. Man brought him Tina,
Speaker 1: let him record Tina the way he wanted to record.
Speaker 1: Tina stepped aside to let him do his thing. He
Speaker 1: made promises that he couldn't keep. And this is what
Speaker 1: I got for it, okay, and insult some flowers, a
Speaker 1: check and one measily sentence. And that land was the
Speaker 1: last time I saw Phil Specter. March Inglewood, California. The
Speaker 1: Ellen narcotics agents called it the taj Mahal because it
Speaker 1: was grandiose, extravagant, palatial, one of Southern California's Eight Wonders,
Speaker 1: the house that Coke built. Ike Turner called it Bollock Sound,
Speaker 1: which phonetically called to mind Anna May Bullock a k a.
Speaker 1: Tina Turner a k a. Proud Mary, the singer he discovered,
Speaker 1: partnered with, and subsequently humiliated and abused behind closed doors.
Speaker 1: But now Tina was long gone. She had bailed years ago,
Speaker 1: fleeing Ike in Dallas with nothing but the bloody clothes
Speaker 1: on her back. It was Tina gone. Ike's music suffered.
Speaker 1: In place of music, he turned to drugs, and drugs
Speaker 1: kept him very busy, so busy that he left the
Speaker 1: trail of cocaine behind him wherever he went. The L
Speaker 1: a p. D kept an eye on Ike every time
Speaker 1: he came and went. From the taj Mahal, a guitar
Speaker 1: player with a bad reputation who recorded with Phil Specter
Speaker 1: toward with the Rolling Stones and famously had a hand
Speaker 1: in the first ever rock and roll song, using his
Speaker 1: studio complex as ground zero for drug dealing and drug doing.
Speaker 1: On this day in Mark, l A. Narks brought the
Speaker 1: SWAT team with them. They went in through the front door.
Speaker 1: The first thing they found was a live hand grenade.
Speaker 1: The next thing they found was Ike on his knees
Speaker 1: next to the toilet, empty baggies on the floor, the
Speaker 1: toilets still running in seven grams of cocaine that he'd
Speaker 1: get the flush. I got thirty days in jail in
Speaker 1: three years probation. The following year, some port of flammable
Speaker 1: liquid down the hallways of the taj Mahal and lit
Speaker 1: a match. A few months later, shots rang out in
Speaker 1: the middle of the day on Ike's front lawn. I
Speaker 1: claimed that the mailman had kicked his dog, and so
Speaker 1: he pulled the piece from the back of his pants
Speaker 1: and immediately shot him. Ike was cleared in cored of
Speaker 1: the assault charge, but more run ins with the police followed.
Speaker 1: Arrests for possession, conspiracy to sell, and concealed weapons were
Speaker 1: common for Ike in the eighties. Eighty nine, Phil Specter
Speaker 1: opened his copy of the Los Angeles Times and the dark,
Speaker 1: cold comfort of his law Collina Mansion and wasn't all
Speaker 1: that surprised at the first headline that caught his eyes.
Speaker 1: Ike Turner arrested on cocaine charges. The article explained the
Speaker 1: cops of pulled Dike over in West Hollywood, where he
Speaker 1: was driving under the influence of cocaine and unloaded thirty
Speaker 1: eight revolver and a pile of rock cocaine sat on
Speaker 1: the seat next to him. It wasn't the first time
Speaker 1: cops had busted Ike in West Hollywood. Specter knew all
Speaker 1: about Likes troubles. He knew a trouble man when he
Speaker 1: saw one. He never fully trusted Ike. He and Ike
Speaker 1: were too similar. He knew the games that Ike played,
Speaker 1: the manipulations, the way he used and abused those closest
Speaker 1: to him. Specter knew all about Ike's troubles and ikes
Speaker 1: games because they were his troubles and his games too.
Speaker 1: Phil Spector folded up the paper and placed it on
Speaker 1: the coffee table. He focused his attention back to the stereo,
Speaker 1: which was playing I'm Your Man, the new album by
Speaker 1: Leonard Cohen. He turned the volume up. The record was
Speaker 1: full of synthesizers, and for Specter's taste, it was too
Speaker 1: sterile and modern sounding. It made a spectacle of Leonard's voice,
Speaker 1: His poetry was caught up in machines. It didn't have
Speaker 1: the warmth and the feeling that a Leonard Cohen record deserved.
Speaker 1: Specter had given Leonard what he deserved just a decade before,
Speaker 1: at least he thought so. Even if the world didn't agree,
Speaker 1: even if the world wanted something more modern than Spector
Speaker 1: could deliver, Specter saw a kindred spirit and Leonard someone
Speaker 1: to get loose with, someone to get crazy with. At
Speaker 1: the time in seven Bill Specter was hoping that Leonard
Speaker 1: Cohen felt the same way. If he didn't, it's no worry.
Speaker 1: Phil Specter had a plan to keep Leonard Cohen loose, crazy,
Speaker 1: him by his side for as long as he wanted.
Speaker 1: The proof would be there in the pudding in the
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