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Speaker 1: Blood on the Tracks is the production of I Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio and Double Elvis. Phil Spector was a musical genius,

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Speaker 1: one of the most successful record producers of all time.

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Speaker 1: He's now sitting behind bars, serving a nineteen years to

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Speaker 1: his so called friends. Is this special Agent Paul Ramon

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Speaker 1: with the Federal Bureau of Investigation work in case number

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Speaker 1: double oh four Dash ten Dash seven one nine case

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Speaker 1: subject as Specter Philip Harvey. This information pertains to a

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Speaker 1: period ending September thirty two to interview subject as Turner

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Luster Jr. A k A I Interview number oh

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Speaker 1: six Spirit Confessional Recall number five marked first two thousand

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Speaker 1: five h For any black artists in America to make

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Speaker 1: any tune, it has to go to the top ten

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Speaker 1: on the arm Beach hots before the top forty station

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Speaker 1: will touch him. And River Deep, Mountain High. It was

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Speaker 1: ten on the arm beach hots. That's why the top

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Speaker 1: forty radio station wouldn't play. The black jockey said it

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Speaker 1: was too white. The white jockey said it was too

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Speaker 1: black you made what Phil said about River d Now

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Speaker 1: and High. This is a few years later after the

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Speaker 1: record Life nine K sixty nine. Okay, he said today

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Speaker 1: that song could have been a number one record today,

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Speaker 1: like a couple of years wouldn't made any difference. He said,

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Speaker 1: when it came out, it was like his farewell must

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Speaker 1: have been one hell of a secret and farewell okay,

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Speaker 1: because he might have said nothing, none of us in

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Speaker 1: the studio. And then he said, I was just saying goodbye,

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Speaker 1: and I just want to go crazy, full fatness, full

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Speaker 1: us on wax. That's on once time he said, I

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Speaker 1: got what I wanted out of the two. Of course

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Speaker 1: he did, man, how of course he got what he

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Speaker 1: wanted out of Then the proof is then and that

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Speaker 1: part of Man and Old Water on the Tracks Chapter four,

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Speaker 1: Phil Specter and Ike Turner m hm. Now, see, I

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Speaker 1: feel like this whole thing is y'all want me to

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Speaker 1: sell the man out. Do you want me to tell

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Speaker 1: you all the dirty stuff, all the stuff to vilify

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Speaker 1: him and all that, like he's some kind of boogeyman

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Speaker 1: or some ship. Then okay, sure, maybe the guy did

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Speaker 1: some ship. Okay, maybe he made some mistakes and didn't

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Speaker 1: always do right by everyone in the room. Look takes

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Speaker 1: one to know one. Okay, Lord knows I made my

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Speaker 1: share mistakes. I know always do right by everyone. I

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Speaker 1: was reacted. I lost my temper. Then Fiel did the same. Man,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I would say we were friends. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but game recognized this game. Man, it was for that bason.

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Speaker 1: Phil was scared of me. He was terrified of me.

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Speaker 1: Just ask Danny Davis. Go ask him, man, I'll wait

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Speaker 1: any Davis news up. Any time you were questioning, when

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Speaker 1: Phil tells you about this or that, Just running by

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Speaker 1: Danny Davis. Now, Phil, Phil saw me and Tina played

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Speaker 1: the Big T and T Show. That thing was like

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Speaker 1: the Tammy Show, right, but it was a movie and

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Speaker 1: it had all kinds of people, white, black, whatever, votedly

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Speaker 1: and raged halls, the birds and Donovan. This it's the

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Speaker 1: greatest LA music time. The show phils to produced so

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Speaker 1: or musical direct or some ship and so we close

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Speaker 1: the show. Tina was wearing that funny cat. I told

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Speaker 1: her not to wear that hat. Not that she always

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Speaker 1: listened to me. Phil told everybody that Tina just blew

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Speaker 1: him away. He said, now, quote, I was just devastated

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Speaker 1: by her. Now. I said it before and I'll say

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Speaker 1: it again. Tina was okay, there were better singers and

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Speaker 1: better dances. What Everttina is now couldn't hold a candle

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Speaker 1: to whatever Tina was before. I listened to her now,

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Speaker 1: and I don't even recognize her. Man. I loved her,

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Speaker 1: I did love her, okay, but I don't love her.

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Speaker 1: I don't even like her anymore, whatever she is, man.

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Speaker 1: But Phil just starts talking about Tina. Tina, Tina, Tina, okay, fine.

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Speaker 1: He sees his talent in Tina and thinks her destiny

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Speaker 1: is on Ed Sullivan in Las Vegas. He wants to

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Speaker 1: record I can Tina Turner. He says. What that really

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Speaker 1: means is that he wants Tina. Well he doesn't tell

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Speaker 1: He's standing there in his tall shoes and his big head.

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Speaker 1: Most definitely a wig. Okay. Again, takes one to know

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Speaker 1: his little body tremble. So he comes to my house,

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Speaker 1: tell me he wants Ike and Tina minus Ike. Okay.

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Speaker 1: He says that they're gonna make this number one record.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna change everything. Tina will become the biggest star.

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Speaker 1: But that was always but he wanted to be in control.

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Speaker 1: couldn't stand the thought of having me involved this ship. Man.

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Speaker 1: At least he knew enough to say it up run.

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Speaker 1: He owned it to a certain degree, even though he

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Speaker 1: Show me what you can do. Man. I don't want,

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Speaker 1: but I made some demands on my own. I told Phil,

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Speaker 1: or now I played on it. I wanted my name

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Speaker 1: There was two chickenship to negotiate with. That. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: Tina starts going to Phil's mansion in l A. That

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Speaker 1: baby went up a lot, Collina. They summer hearsing it

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Speaker 1: And he's real stracted like I was real stripped with

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Speaker 1: hand and the other hand clutched real tight. I charged

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Speaker 1: ten bucks if one of the girls had a running

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Speaker 1: the stockins, twenty five bucks if they laughed too damn laugh.

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Speaker 1: But as tough as I was with the band members,

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Speaker 1: story behind closed doors is always different. Man on the stage.

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Speaker 1: for better or for worse. You understand, they'll wanted Tina

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Speaker 1: the record. Right, she would be the biggest because he

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Speaker 1: I think River Deep Mountain High is as much a

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Speaker 1: work of art as good Vibrations. Okay, the two should

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Speaker 1: sixty six, no doubt. But Phil was the first accepton

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Speaker 1: least here in the States. He took these full page

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Speaker 1: one in England. Benedict Arnold was right. He did that

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Speaker 1: Lenny Bruce, did you know, took out that full page

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Speaker 1: This was his way of last. Now, now, the song

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Speaker 1: With Ladd and Appli Just Want and then River Deep,

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Speaker 1: wasn't just a bad man. It was a fucking symphony.

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Speaker 1: Two guitarists, two drummers, a damn choir, singers, white players,

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Speaker 1: call those casts ship. Phil cut them all in line

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Speaker 1: just about as well as me. I said, just about Man,

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Speaker 1: because I could look at him Man, and he changed

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Speaker 1: the way he was playing in a second. Phil had

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Speaker 1: to tell them repeatedly, what do you wanted? A big hit? There?

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Speaker 1: Ba ba ba ba bla baka. Anyway, it wasn't just

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Speaker 1: You know, I just placed my chest right up against his,

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Speaker 1: Phil Specter had a plan to keep Leonard Cohen loose, crazy,

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