WEBVTT - What's Wright - Nick Wright reacts to Knicks EPIC comeback vs. Celtics, Jayson Tatum DISAPPEARING, Nuggets-Thunder

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome in. What's drive in the Great episode three twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nine on a busy day and after an absolutely insane

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<v Speaker 1>for my money, last night was kind of the perfect

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<v Speaker 1>night of playoff basketball because we had one all time

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<v Speaker 1>game with an all time comeback and one game that

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<v Speaker 1>was over at halftime, so I finally could get some sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>Sweet Jesus man, I have been a zombie the last month.

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<v Speaker 1>These games every single night, they're all good. It feels

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<v Speaker 1>like no lead is safe. But the Oklahoma City lead

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<v Speaker 1>over Denver, I was like, that one feels safe. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be totally honest with you. I didn't watch

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<v Speaker 1>second half of that game. I've been locked into everything

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<v Speaker 1>that one, went to bed early, felt good about it. Demons,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome in. I applaud that you have not taken the

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<v Speaker 1>Celtics jersey down. They maybe, by the way, might ask

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<v Speaker 1>you to put it on and see if you can

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<v Speaker 1>give them a good six minutes off the bench, because

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<v Speaker 1>you'll at least go to the basket and so necessary.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be necessary. Also, while the West Coast is

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<v Speaker 1>a good place in theory to be a sports fan,

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<v Speaker 1>nights like last night kind of a bummer because by

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<v Speaker 1>seven pm, you're just evenings ruined. Like you could have

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<v Speaker 1>a whole, you know, nice night in front of you,

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<v Speaker 1>but four fifteen start, seven o'clock finish, and it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well that sucked. So we'll get to all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to spend a lot of time on Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Celtics and then the other things. But first, what missed

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<v Speaker 1>the cut? A Sue Bird has become the USA Basketball

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<v Speaker 1>Managing director for the women's national team. Rob Blinka got

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<v Speaker 1>one vote for Executive of the Year. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I got no problem with that. Answering the phone is

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<v Speaker 1>answering the phone. An NBA Draft lottery is Monday. The

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<v Speaker 1>producers want me to tell you who I want to

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<v Speaker 1>win the Cooper Flag Sweepstakes. Honestly, I want Miami to

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<v Speaker 1>win it. I feel like Jimmy Butler did them dirty

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<v Speaker 1>and I would like to see the Miami Oh wait,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an idiot. I'm a total idiot. The Miami Heat

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<v Speaker 1>can't win it. They could have at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the regular season, but since they made the playoffs, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they they actually can't win it. So of the teams

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<v Speaker 1>that can actually win it, I know I had said,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess my answer because yeah, because Miami beat Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>to get to get No, I don't want him to

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<v Speaker 1>be with these silly teams. I certainly don't want Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>to win it. I don't know Portland. Portland could be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying to I don't want the Spurs to win.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't seem fair. The the most fun one is Philly.

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<v Speaker 1>Philly just gets a total Paul George get out of

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<v Speaker 1>jail free card if they win it. But okay, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get to the act news of the day, Demons, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the fact that your team stinks.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, so yesterday Game two pretty much a carbon

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<v Speaker 2>copy of Game one. The Knicks pull off another twenty

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<v Speaker 2>point comeback in the Celtics lose.

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<v Speaker 1>That's I don't I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 2>To say here. It's we're still relying on the three.

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<v Speaker 2>Seems like we didn't get less to twenty less, but

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<v Speaker 2>still we're taking threes in spots where it's just like,

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<v Speaker 2>go and get a bucket increased.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't love the Jason Tatum up seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Jalen was on the ground, on the ground, Josh Harratt

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen feet away. Yeah, how do you feel about the

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<v Speaker 2>series or do you want me to go in China.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh we can. I mean I'll go, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>can go back and forth. The Knicks can win, and

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<v Speaker 1>they the Knicks deserve, they deserve to be the story.

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<v Speaker 1>But they are not the story. The Knicks deserve to

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<v Speaker 1>have us talking about how they have gone to Boston.

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<v Speaker 1>They have been down twenty points in the second half

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<v Speaker 1>in both of these games. They have not played great, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>in either game. Yesterday, Michale Bridges is terrible for the

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<v Speaker 1>first three quarters before being awesome. Jalen Brunson is six

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen in the game. With a few minutes left

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<v Speaker 1>in the game, he had made four shots and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like he was getting He had made four shots

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<v Speaker 1>and got into the free throw line once and they

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<v Speaker 1>found a way to win. And they deserve credit for that.

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<v Speaker 1>But the store and we will I promise we'll spend

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time on the Knicks, but the story

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<v Speaker 1>is Boston. The next story is about what I said

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<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday, Planning for this moment meant for more than

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<v Speaker 1>a year, and they're being a lot of similarities to

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<v Speaker 1>what how Minnesota was able to beat Denver to what

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<v Speaker 1>we are seeing with the Knicks and the Celtics. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>table those and we will get to those shortly, because

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<v Speaker 1>the story really is the defending champs falling apart in

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<v Speaker 1>real time, physically and mentally. And now let me make

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<v Speaker 1>this clear. I don't think it's over. I don't think like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>no chance the Celtics come back. The Celtics are talented

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<v Speaker 1>enough and good enough obviously to win four out of

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<v Speaker 1>five against New York. In fact, most people thought they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to win four out of five against New York.

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<v Speaker 1>They just thought it was gonna be the first five games.

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<v Speaker 1>This is gonna be a nice, friendly, gentleman sweep. But

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<v Speaker 1>we are now here. Everyone's gonna focus on the three

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<v Speaker 1>point variants, and I get it. Twenty five of one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred from three fifteen of sixty in Game one, the

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<v Speaker 1>exact same percentage in Game two, except they were ten

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<v Speaker 1>of forty. I actually don't think that is that might

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<v Speaker 1>be the biggest reason they're down. I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>is the biggest story surrounding them being down. The biggest

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<v Speaker 1>story surrounding them being down is Jason Tatum. And we

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<v Speaker 1>gave him all his flowers and all the credit for

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<v Speaker 1>what was, without a doubt at least to my eye,

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<v Speaker 1>the best regul season of his career. I understand he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even have He wasn't the best numbers. He's averaged

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<v Speaker 1>almost exactly this many points. He's averaged twenty six point

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<v Speaker 1>eight or twenty six point nine points three of the

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<v Speaker 1>last four years his you know, his numbers in the

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<v Speaker 1>one year he did and he averaged thirty. His numbers

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<v Speaker 1>have been consistent, His field goal percentage have been consistent.

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<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't that he played more games. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just this felt like the best Tatum year because you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get a great year from Jalen Brown by his standards,

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<v Speaker 1>Horford's a year or older. You saw some real deterioration

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<v Speaker 1>from Drew Holliday over the course of the year. And

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<v Speaker 1>yet Tatum answered the bell on both ends of the

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<v Speaker 1>court every night. And and this is the key piece,

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<v Speaker 1>not the key, but one of the key pieces of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Responded from what was a really weird few months for

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<v Speaker 1>him where he finally wins a championship, but he's not

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<v Speaker 1>the conference finals MVP. He's not the finals MVP. He

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<v Speaker 1>actually plays some of his worst basketball of the season

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<v Speaker 1>last year in the biggest games, most notably those two series,

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<v Speaker 1>the Conference finals in NBA Finals. Still it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>he was bad, but he just dropped a level that

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<v Speaker 1>then was compounded by the fact that Steve Kerr, who

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<v Speaker 1>obviously is at despite what lunatic Warrior fans would try

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you, Steve Kerr, who obviously is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best and smartest basketball minds we have. Steve Kerr

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<v Speaker 1>saw Jason Tatum in the Olympics and said, can't use you. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>would love to, but actually you're not one of our

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<v Speaker 1>eight best. And he responded to all of that with

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<v Speaker 1>a year where he had an argument he was the

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<v Speaker 1>third best player in the league and where there was

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<v Speaker 1>no argument whatsoever he was one of the four best

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<v Speaker 1>players in the league. And for that to then and

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<v Speaker 1>then let me add another piece to it. After a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of rocky game one of the playoffs, but who cared,

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<v Speaker 1>they won, it was easy where he got hurt. He

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<v Speaker 1>then came back after missing a game, averaging thirty six,

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<v Speaker 1>eleven and six the rest of the series. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>holy shit, Jase, this extra level that Bill Simmons has

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<v Speaker 1>been swearing on his children exists for years. For Jason

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<v Speaker 1>take we're seeing it. And then in back to back games,

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<v Speaker 1>he is twelve of forty two from the field. He

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<v Speaker 1>is five of twenty from three. He is a total

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<v Speaker 1>and complete non factor in the fourth quarter of these games.

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<v Speaker 1>The only play he made last night was when the

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<v Speaker 1>Knicks screwed up a switch and he got a wide

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<v Speaker 1>open dunk. And now, listen, I'll just tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>I said to Kevin Wilds when I facetimed him yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know this is going to sound unfair, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's just how I feel. And it's not prisoner of

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<v Speaker 1>the moment, because I have felt this way about Tatum forever.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an excellent player. But what I said to Wilds

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<v Speaker 1>is I don't care if the Celtics win the next

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<v Speaker 1>three championships, He's never going to be the best player

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<v Speaker 1>in the league. That guy is not the best player

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<v Speaker 1>in the league. And I don't I don't even think

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<v Speaker 1>the reason I said that to Wilds is because he

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<v Speaker 1>keeps trying to force the conversation of Jason Tatum's going

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<v Speaker 1>to force us into some really tricky conversations. What do

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<v Speaker 1>we do with the twenty seven year old with two

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<v Speaker 1>rings and four first team All nbas and all of

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<v Speaker 1>this what does that mean for where he is historically?

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<v Speaker 1>And my answer to that is Tatum is an excellent player.

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<v Speaker 1>He is not yet in the We need to evaluate

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<v Speaker 1>his historical greatness level. And I don't know that he

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be in that conversation. There is and

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<v Speaker 1>I can't put my finger on it, but there's something

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<v Speaker 1>that's just not there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a little tight in big spots, is

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<v Speaker 2>what it seems like to me watching the games.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels to me like if his three isn't falling,

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<v Speaker 1>it knocks him off the rest of his game. And

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<v Speaker 1>what is And here is the Celtics piece. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just did Lebotard Show, and this is the point I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to make the Celtics bum three strategy over

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<v Speaker 1>the long haul. Obviously, it's just a smart mathematical strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>As sample sizes get smaller, you put yourself more at

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the mercy of the variants, it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the team that really originated this strategy was Darryl Moury's Rockets.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's why. For Daryl Morey's Rockets it made total sense.

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<v Speaker 1>The team they were trying to beat, the KDI STEPH Warriors,

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<v Speaker 1>was flatly better than them, so they needed to shake

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<v Speaker 1>up the snow globe and add some damn variants because

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<v Speaker 1>if we just go go to the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>ring and trade jabs, we got no shot. So instead

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna throw some wild haymakers and risk getting knocked

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<v Speaker 1>out because that's our chance. This strategy for the Celtics

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<v Speaker 1>maybe wouldn't make sense if this were the NBA Finals

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<v Speaker 1>against Oklahoma City and they feel like they're better than us.

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<v Speaker 1>All year long, they've been better, they have the better resume,

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<v Speaker 1>they they're best players, better than our best player. They're

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<v Speaker 1>better than us, So let's add some uncertainty to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Up twenty points in the second half against the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Knicks. The last thing you want is to add uncertainty.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's an insane It's not an insane way to play.

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<v Speaker 1>It's insane demande not to adjust, yeah, and not to

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<v Speaker 1>have It's a team, it's a football team that their

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<v Speaker 1>identity is chucking it deep and up ten in the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter. They refuse to run the ball that and

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<v Speaker 1>here's the other piece of it. You've got Jason Tatum.

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<v Speaker 1>He's six' eight, it's an amazing shape. He can get

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<v Speaker 1>to the hoop, and it is it is stubbornness that

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<v Speaker 1>at this point might cost him their title defense to

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<v Speaker 1>lose both. And it's the first twenty point lead. I

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<v Speaker 1>said it Tuesday. The Knicks made that a game faster

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<v Speaker 1>than any team I can remember. It was twenty points,

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<v Speaker 1>Boston up by twenty with five and a half left

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<v Speaker 1>in the third, and it was a six point game

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<v Speaker 1>with a minute left in the third. So the Knicks

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<v Speaker 1>just in the span of ten possessions made it a game. Again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday was different in that, yes, it was twenty and

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<v Speaker 1>then the Knicks chipped away, but was go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>We were holding it like we stayed out in front,

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<v Speaker 2>in front for a minute and we just kept shooting

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<v Speaker 2>the three, and they just kept chipping it away.

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<v Speaker 1>It was fourteen with seven minutes left. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at the Celtics fourth quarter shot chart,

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<v Speaker 1>they did you know, they didn't just shoot threes. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the third quarter in Game three. But there were

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<v Speaker 1>just these moments, most notably was the one Wilds took

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<v Speaker 1>the picture of. But it is it's a jarring image

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<v Speaker 1>where it is eighty six seventy seven. Is that I

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure I have it. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>yeah or the Let me try to pull out. I

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<v Speaker 1>should just pull up Wild's tweet because it is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a wild decision by it's eighty six seventy nine. Pardon me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know why this isn't showing me that,

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<v Speaker 1>but regardless, don't worry about it. Oh, here's why, because

0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:32.399
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't. I was like, I thought it was eighty

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<v Speaker 1>six because the score. Remember, and here's a sneaky important

0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:37.719
<v Speaker 1>part of the game that will be forgotten, the history.

0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:43.240
<v Speaker 1>The Knicks got an extra point during a time out

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<v Speaker 1>because they had called a Jalen Brunson three two and

0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:51.840
<v Speaker 1>then they fixed it. Oh, Michale Bridges, pardon me. And

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<v Speaker 1>so the score the scoreboard says eighty six seventy nine,

0:17:56.920 --> 0:18:02.520
<v Speaker 1>but it was actually eighty six eighty and and Derek

0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:07.920
<v Speaker 1>White misses a three. Michale Bridges then goes down misses

0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:13.840
<v Speaker 1>a three, and Josh Hart tries to save it and

0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:17.879
<v Speaker 1>starts the fast break, and all of a sudden and

0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:21.800
<v Speaker 1>we can put the image up. Jason Tatum finds himself

0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:30.159
<v Speaker 1>in this position. I don't think demon's a I like that.

0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I well, I don't think I like shooting that three.

0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:41.879
<v Speaker 1>If I'm the team trailing by seven, like I, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's the smarter move.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a dunk right there because it's not recovery,

0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:49.280
<v Speaker 2>like he's probably gonna try to get out.

0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:54.240
<v Speaker 1>The way recovering. And by the way, it's and here's

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing. If Jalen Brunson is upright, you might

0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:05.040
<v Speaker 1>have a dunk there. Oh yeah, you're seven inches taller

0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:09.480
<v Speaker 1>than him. Horford's there. You have a full head of steam.

0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:14.359
<v Speaker 1>That is an impossible decision. Now you can be like, listen,

0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:18.040
<v Speaker 1>what does Jason Tatum shoot on corner threes? Blah blah blah. Again,

0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.720
<v Speaker 1>you're up You're actually up six, but you think you're

0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:28.919
<v Speaker 1>up seven. It's bananas. And the very next possession, we

0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:33.120
<v Speaker 1>don't have a picture of it, but Jalen Brown has

0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:36.800
<v Speaker 1>an alley to the basket and he takes a pull

0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:41.400
<v Speaker 1>up three. And so it's just.

0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:46.520
<v Speaker 2>It is the Nicks just flatly want it more, is

0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:47.280
<v Speaker 2>what it seems like.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they are certainly more comfortable demands if it's close late, Yeah,

0:19:56.720 --> 0:20:01.280
<v Speaker 1>that is undeniable. And the fact that the Knicks have

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<v Speaker 1>now won five road playoff games and they have won

0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:11.439
<v Speaker 1>them they have played five road playoff games. They are

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<v Speaker 1>five and zero, and they have won those five games

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<v Speaker 1>by a combined This is really unbelievable. They have won

0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:32.480
<v Speaker 1>those five games by combined ten points. One in overtime.

0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:38.320
<v Speaker 1>They won Game three against Detroit by two, Game four

0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:44.880
<v Speaker 1>against Detroit by one, Game six against Detroit by three,

0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Game one against Boston by three and in overtime, and

0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:58.240
<v Speaker 1>Game two against Boston by one. It is uh, it

0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:03.160
<v Speaker 1>is a remarkable turn of events. Got a lot of heart,

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<v Speaker 1>So this is un I don't even think that my

0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:11.840
<v Speaker 1>buddy knows I'm doing the pod right now. But my

0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:16.639
<v Speaker 1>buddy Andy just texts me, if you're curious the odds

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<v Speaker 1>of a team that shot uh, let me read this

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<v Speaker 1>exact text real quick. Sorry, if you're curious the odds

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<v Speaker 1>of a team that shot thirty seven percent from three

0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:30.280
<v Speaker 1>over a season to shoot twenty five percent or less

0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:34.919
<v Speaker 1>over one hundred shots, it's less than one percent, he writes.

0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm blue an orange to the bone. But we're watching

0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:40.720
<v Speaker 1>somebody flop twelve sets in a night. It's a poker turn.

0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:46.520
<v Speaker 1>So I'm glad this is He's the second person that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of brought up poker to me in this regard,

0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:58.399
<v Speaker 1>and here's my real indictment on the Celtics here. You

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<v Speaker 1>adjust your strat as a poker player based on do

0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I think I have a skill advantage? Okay? So let

0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:16.920
<v Speaker 1>me I will try to explain something in poker terms

0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:23.359
<v Speaker 1>that even if you're not a poker player, you'll understand. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's say you're at the final table of a

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<v Speaker 1>big tournament and you are thoroughly convinced, thoroughly convinced you're

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<v Speaker 1>the best player at the table, okay, and there's one

0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:47.160
<v Speaker 1>person there who has more chips than you, and therefore

0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:53.359
<v Speaker 1>that person can knock you out. And you get in

0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:57.159
<v Speaker 1>a spot where a bunch of people are you know,

0:22:57.200 --> 0:22:59.280
<v Speaker 1>get their cards. Is raising. I'm going to try to

0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:01.080
<v Speaker 1>do this in Gene and Eric terms. W even not

0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:10.080
<v Speaker 1>a poker player, you can understand it. And you have

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:15.200
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to get all your money in against this

0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:20.119
<v Speaker 1>the one guy who can knock you out, and he

0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:24.639
<v Speaker 1>shows you his cards, okay.

0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:27.600
<v Speaker 3>And you have.

0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:38.280
<v Speaker 1>As king and he has eight nine. You are about

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<v Speaker 1>a sixty a little more than a sixty forty favorite

0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:49.120
<v Speaker 1>in that spot. Shows it to you if you truly

0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:54.479
<v Speaker 1>believe you have a significant skill edge on the table.

0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:59.240
<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of players that in that spot

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<v Speaker 1>would say, nah, not going to even though in the

0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:11.719
<v Speaker 1>long run this is obviously wildly profitable for me if

0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:14.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm a sixty forty favorite, and again that wouldn't be

0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:17.080
<v Speaker 1>the math of those two exact hands. But just stick

0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:20.719
<v Speaker 1>with me. That means forty percent of the time I lose.

0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:24.280
<v Speaker 1>That means two out of five times I lose here.

0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:32.399
<v Speaker 1>And I don't want to roll those dice when I

0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:42.439
<v Speaker 1>think I can just grind you guys down. The Celtics saying,

0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:47.640
<v Speaker 1>by virtue of how they're playing well in the long run,

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 1>this is smart to me, underestimates what should be their

0:24:57.000 --> 0:25:01.280
<v Speaker 1>decided advantages in this series. And by the way, that's

0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:08.000
<v Speaker 1>not just hypothetical. They're decided advantages in this series during

0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the games where they have built twenty point leads, and

0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 1>so it is. It is. It has the potential to

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 1>be an all time loss. That also, and this is

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:35.440
<v Speaker 1>the part demon's and even though you're a Celtics fan,

0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:41.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe you could take some solace in it also has

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:50.119
<v Speaker 1>the potential to maybe stem the tide a bit against

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:57.160
<v Speaker 1>professional basketball simply being a three point shooting contest, and

0:25:57.200 --> 0:26:00.719
<v Speaker 1>I think that we if you guys go back, and

0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 1>we should God dogg it, it might be worth putting

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:08.440
<v Speaker 1>this clip back out there again. After the first night

0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:14.040
<v Speaker 1>of the NBA season, I did like a twenty minute

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 1>thought exercise on this show about how the NBA has

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:25.040
<v Speaker 1>two major problems on its hand. One was the load

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 1>management stuff, but the other one was that watching three

0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:34.120
<v Speaker 1>point contests is not as good of an entertainment product

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 1>as the NBA we grew up with, and that even

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:40.520
<v Speaker 1>though the league is deeper than ever, more skilled than ever,

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:45.719
<v Speaker 1>in theory should be better than ever, that you potentially

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:48.560
<v Speaker 1>might need to be proactive like Baseball was against the

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 1>shift and with the pitch clock and all those things,

0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 1>because your consumers won't love it. The Boston Celtics breaking

0:26:56.359 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 1>every record for three point attempts. If they end up

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 1>cruising to a championship, then until the rules change, everyone's

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 1>an idiot for not playing that way. But if in

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:16.200
<v Speaker 1>the small sample size of a series the Celtics get

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:22.120
<v Speaker 1>whacked by what most people feel is a clearly inferior team,

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:24.439
<v Speaker 1>and a team, by the way, who was zero to

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 1>eight this year against the Cavs and the Celtics and

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 1>like one in eighteen against the best teams in basketball.

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Uh that whether it should or shouldn't change teams philosophies

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:44.679
<v Speaker 1>and approaches pro sports are reactionary, and I think it will,

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I'll say it for the health of basketball.

0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:53.640
<v Speaker 1>It's good if this doesn't work for Boston. And now,

0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes in, I want to talk about the Knicks

0:27:56.840 --> 0:28:00.080
<v Speaker 1>side of things, so everyone's gonna say some of the

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 1>same stuff here. Bridges defensive stops at the end of

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 1>these games has been unbelievable. And the fact that the

0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Knicks Tatum wasn't did you realize Demon's day that that

0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 1>was correctly graded by the scorekeepers at the end a

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>steal and not a block because Tatum abandoned the shot

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 1>and was trying to pass it to Jalen Brown. It

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 1>was a steal.

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 2>It was a steal and not a block. Yeah, I

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:32.480
<v Speaker 2>could see how that kind of looked like a steal

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:34.000
<v Speaker 2>because he was trying to pass it in mckill.

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Bridges to you, No, that's my point. In real time,

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was a shot that got blocked that

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Bridges grabbed and then threw up in the air.

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, No, I mean he tried to like turn

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 2>and kick it out right.

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 1>He abandoned the shot. That's the point I like in

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 1>it was, I mean a brilliant defensive possessions. So people

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 1>are going to talk about that Brunton obviously, I mean

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 1>just more than earning his Clutch Player of the Year

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:08.360
<v Speaker 1>award night after night after night. Uh, Karl Anthony towns

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Is stretch in the second quarter when he was the

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:13.959
<v Speaker 1>only Nick doing anything, when this thing could have gotten

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 1>totally away from him, might get forgotten. A bit to history.

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 1>And one other thing that I will focus on even

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 1>if no one else will. Joe Mizzoula going to the

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 1>hack of Mitchell Robinson's strategy when the team had two

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 1>team fouls and putting the Knicks in the bonus without

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:36.240
<v Speaker 1>ever getting Mitch Robinson into the free throw line. I

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 1>thought was one of the bigger coaching mistakes of his

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:43.720
<v Speaker 1>career up to this point. Just strategically, it didn't make sense.

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:47.479
<v Speaker 1>It was as if the Knicks were gonna be caught

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:52.320
<v Speaker 1>sleeping and pull Mitchell Robinson out before you got into

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 1>the bonus, which they almost did, but they didn't, or

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 1>he thought they would just leave him in once you

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 1>were in the bone. I don't know what he thought,

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 1>but that was a mistake. But the story for the

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 1>New York Knicks, and this was, if I can give

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 1>myself a little credit, something I talked about on the

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 1>pod and TV show Tuesday and Willigan Today is a

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 1>story of different objectives. Yes, of course the Knicks want

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 1>to win a championship, but they did not build a

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 1>team with that being the singular goal. They built a

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 1>team to beat Boston, with the logic being the only

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:51.240
<v Speaker 1>chance we have of winning a championship is if we

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 1>can beat Boston. We can't rely on being on opposite

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 1>sides of the bracket and someone else beating them, or

0:30:57.720 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 1>injuries or whatever. We are going to have to go

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 1>through Boston. So we trade for og Ananobi, We trade

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:12.680
<v Speaker 1>for Michale Bridges. Now we have long, switchable, defensive minded

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 1>wings for Brown and Tatum. We move off Julius Randall

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 1>and maybe just as importantly, Dante DiVincenzo to bring in

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Carl Anthony Towns so we can match some of their

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:31.680
<v Speaker 1>offensive firepower. And so if they want to play with

0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:35.120
<v Speaker 1>a big, a seven footer who can shoot, in Chris STAPs,

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 1>we got a seven footer who can shoot even better

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 1>than Karl Anthony Towns. They built a team, well, yes,

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 1>and and that, and we'll get to that. They built

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 1>a team to beat Boston, just like Minnesota hired away

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 1>the guy who built the Nuggets, who to then build

0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 1>a team to beat the Nuggets. And then when the

0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Nuggets were defending champs in round two and everyone thought

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 1>they were cruising to the finals, they ran into a

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 1>team no one really believed in, and that team who

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:18.760
<v Speaker 1>was built to beat them, not necessarily to win a title,

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 1>as they got clocked in the next round, built to

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 1>beat Denver, went to Denver and took game one and

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 1>then shocked everyone and took game two as well. Now

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 1>they ended up losing the next three, but they won

0:32:34.040 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 1>the series anyway. The folks who run the Knicks looked

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 1>at their biggest hurdle to making the first finals, making

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 1>the first conference finals and the first NBA finals the

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 1>franchises made this century and said it to Boston, said

0:32:55.120 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 1>all right, we'll build our version and we're gonna have

0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 1>this added bonus. We're not going to be quite as

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 1>talented man for man, and our coach isn't going to

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 1>be one coach is the ultimate new school coach, and

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 1>the other coach is the ultimate old school coach. Our

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 1>coach isn't going to have the analytical bent and edge

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Boston's does. But here's what we are going to have

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 1>an absolutely fearless end of game guy, and you guys

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 1>don't have it. And now I was talking about how

0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 1>the Knicks just needed to get one more after winning

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Game one in the next three to guarantee themselves they're

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 1>getting a game six at home. Now Boston's got to

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 1>get two of the next three in order to make

0:33:53.960 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 1>sure this series isn't over before game six. And that

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 1>is a shocking turn of events. And by the way,

0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 1>nobody knows what to do with this series, where like

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:15.799
<v Speaker 1>the Knicks are the favorite in the series, but the

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Celtics are still the favorite in the conference. Like this

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:23.319
<v Speaker 1>is a weird spot because nobody thought we'd be in

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 1>this spot. All right, you wanted to talk about Porzingis,

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:28.720
<v Speaker 1>so go ahead.

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So he's been am i with some type of

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 2>sickness that's messing with his stamina. How does that affect

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:38.239
<v Speaker 2>our chances? You think with him being in and out

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:38.840
<v Speaker 2>of the lineup.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Porzingis thing is bizarre and you feel terribly

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>for the guy. I mean, this is why he missed

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:51.399
<v Speaker 1>time weeks ago, and so I don't know what it is.

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 1>It's not you know, it's not the flu. It's not

0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 1>and clearly they can't figure it out. But this is

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:05.080
<v Speaker 1>a huge loss for them, a huge loss, and it

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:11.880
<v Speaker 1>also everything matters, and even if they are able to

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 1>get through this series, which right now my pick would

0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:19.439
<v Speaker 1>be the next I don't think it's over, but right

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 1>now I think that my pick would be the next.

0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 1>These extra miles on Horford, Yeah, are tough for one

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 1>of the oldest players in the league who's now pushed

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:37.440
<v Speaker 1>into the starting lineup. In all of that, so that

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's another issue. Let me before we move on, Demons,

0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 1>where's your confidence level and what adjustments do you want

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Boston to make.

0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:52.759
<v Speaker 2>I think we'll win the series, and I'd like to

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:56.959
<v Speaker 2>I'd like to just take what the defense has given

0:35:57.040 --> 0:36:01.959
<v Speaker 2>us and and just kind of take note of what's

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:05.759
<v Speaker 2>happened in the last two games and just want it more.

0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:08.000
<v Speaker 2>And when you when you have the twenty point lead,

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:10.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, do your best to keep that twenty point lead.

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:16.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I this is it's just it's we're

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 2>playing with some some competitive energy. It just it just

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:22.600
<v Speaker 2>seems like the Knicks are just flying around and the

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:24.759
<v Speaker 2>Celtics are just relying on their pedigree.

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 1>And it also, yes, the Celtics feel right now a

0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:33.920
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<v Speaker 1>All right, demanse, let's get to this other stuff. I

0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:41.719
<v Speaker 1>said that I could have done the whole pod just

0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:45.439
<v Speaker 1>on Nicks Celtics, but there are other stories we must

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<v Speaker 1>get to, So go ahead.

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:50.600
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, So you decided to jump on the Denver bandwagon,

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:53.840
<v Speaker 2>and they followed that with a forty five or forty

0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:55.719
<v Speaker 2>two point loss. I can't remember which one it is,

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:58.200
<v Speaker 2>maybe you should jump the ship so things start winning again.

0:39:59.120 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Russ was there?

0:39:59.840 --> 0:40:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Lee, Okay, so you couldn't miss any shots. Do you

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:05.560
<v Speaker 2>think the first game was more telling or do you

0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:08.000
<v Speaker 2>think this last game was more of how it's going

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:08.239
<v Speaker 2>to be?

0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, listen, I jumping on the Denver bandwagon is maybe

0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:19.160
<v Speaker 1>a touch strong. I maybe yes. I have said since

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 1>the Lakers got eliminated that my pick to when the

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:27.239
<v Speaker 1>title is Oklahoma City, and that's not really a sexy pick.

0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 1>They are the they are now might in fact, let

0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:33.719
<v Speaker 1>me look, this will be a fun thing to do

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:40.799
<v Speaker 1>real quick. What are the Thunder now minus money favorites?

0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:46.320
<v Speaker 1>This is something the championship? Yeah, so here's here's something

0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Folks get wrong a lot. They don't know that odds

0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:57.600
<v Speaker 1>on favorite is different than just being the favorite. So

0:40:57.840 --> 0:41:02.799
<v Speaker 1>odds on favorite means that you're minus money, that you're

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:05.960
<v Speaker 1>priced at a greater than fifty percent chance to win.

0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:10.360
<v Speaker 1>So right now on DraftKings, Nope, the Thunder are not

0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:14.760
<v Speaker 1>yet minus money, but they are. They are plus one thirty.

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:19.759
<v Speaker 1>Boston is plus three ten, the Calves are plus eight

0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:23.720
<v Speaker 1>point fifty, the Timberwolves are ten to one, the Knicks

0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:27.760
<v Speaker 1>thirteen to one, the Pacers fifteen to one, the Nuggets

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:30.799
<v Speaker 1>seventeen to one, and the Warriors twenty five to one.

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:32.720
<v Speaker 2>Knocked at the Warriors having the least.

0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Odds, Well, that is to me, Uh.

0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:40.719
<v Speaker 2>They're saying curries, They're they're going to be screwed without him?

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:48.360
<v Speaker 1>Is but yes, that is that is the the essentially

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:56.680
<v Speaker 1>the Warriors therket place saying maybe Steph will come back.

0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:58.719
<v Speaker 1>We don't want to write them off. Like but what

0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I do find so fascinating about it is that it

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:08.239
<v Speaker 1>feels to me, with eight teams left, you could make

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:11.000
<v Speaker 1>a credible case for any of the eight teams to

0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:18.360
<v Speaker 1>win a championship. And that is that's really unlike anything

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:21.719
<v Speaker 1>I can quite remember. Okay, so there, so there's that.

0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Now to answer the game about last night. About last night,

0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't think either game is really indicative of the series.

0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:38.440
<v Speaker 1>But I think Game one is more indicative, not because

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:44.439
<v Speaker 1>the Nuggets are gonna win it, but because Game one

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 1>was evidence of any game the Nuggets are going to

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 1>have a real chance. Jokers going to have to be transcendent.

0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:55.839
<v Speaker 3>That is.

0:42:56.640 --> 0:43:00.839
<v Speaker 1>That is the in my opinion, the real story here.

0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:07.839
<v Speaker 1>And the thunder who hadn't faced you know, they've won

0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 1>two playoff series together as a group. The only real

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 1>adversity they faced in games that mattered was last year

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:19.239
<v Speaker 1>against Dallas and Luca got the better of them for

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:23.760
<v Speaker 1>the Thunders. For the Thunder to come out and score

0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:27.680
<v Speaker 1>an NBA record eighty seven first half points and just

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:33.000
<v Speaker 1>absolutely annihilate Denver, to me, was a reminder of how

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 1>good this team is when it is firing on all cylins.

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:39.719
<v Speaker 2>How much do you think Denver let their foot off

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:43.240
<v Speaker 2>the gas? You know, feel uncomfortable? They stole that game one,

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:44.800
<v Speaker 2>so right, It's.

0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Not so much they let their foot off the gas.

0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:51.719
<v Speaker 1>It's that I think they went into the game peak motivation,

0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:55.920
<v Speaker 1>and when the Thunder hit them with haymakers, then they're like, Okay,

0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:59.760
<v Speaker 1>tonight's not our night. And that's, by the way, that's fine.

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Like the it's now whenever you're yeah, whenever you're the

0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:09.000
<v Speaker 1>inferior team, what you want to do is just keep

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:12.920
<v Speaker 1>shortening the series. And so now it's not a best

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:16.960
<v Speaker 1>of seven, it's a best of five now, and Denver

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:21.719
<v Speaker 1>as home court, Like that's how they that's how they

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:24.280
<v Speaker 1>have to look at it is. It's now a best

0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:28.280
<v Speaker 1>of five. It's first to three, and we've got three

0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:32.439
<v Speaker 1>of the five games in our building. And so now

0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:35.240
<v Speaker 1>are they going to go back to Oklahoma City Denver

0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:37.680
<v Speaker 1>that is up three to one. No, I don't. I

0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:40.160
<v Speaker 1>don't think that's realistic at all. What I do think

0:44:40.239 --> 0:44:43.160
<v Speaker 1>is Denver's goal is to then make it a best

0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 1>of three, and have you know they won't to have

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:48.879
<v Speaker 1>home court that in that scenario, make it a best

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:51.640
<v Speaker 1>of three, get it back at two to two, and

0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:54.279
<v Speaker 1>then hope that somehow it can become a best of

0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:59.800
<v Speaker 1>one game seven. And so Oklahoma City has the highest

0:44:59.840 --> 0:45:02.959
<v Speaker 1>s of any team in the league. I think they've

0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:10.480
<v Speaker 1>demonstrated that. And they are now seventy three and fifteen.

0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:14.840
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty good, all right, Let's get on go on

0:45:14.920 --> 0:45:16.000
<v Speaker 1>to Warriors two Wolves.

0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:18.800
<v Speaker 2>Warriors won Game one on the road without Steph. I

0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:21.200
<v Speaker 2>think he went out like eight minutes left in the

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:23.560
<v Speaker 2>second quarter. They still pulled it off. I think he

0:45:23.600 --> 0:45:26.000
<v Speaker 2>suffered a hamstring strain. It's going to be out at

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:28.479
<v Speaker 2>least a week. Do you give the Doves any chance

0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:29.920
<v Speaker 2>to win without Steph?

0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:34.759
<v Speaker 1>No? And I thought that was a great win by them,

0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 1>And I thought Steve Kerr was brilliant and playing thirteen

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:44.879
<v Speaker 1>guys adjusting on the fly and Buddy Heald. Like these

0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:49.279
<v Speaker 1>last two games with Buddy Heeld, it reminds you of

0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:52.960
<v Speaker 1>how great the Warriors were when they had prime Klay Thompson.

0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:55.439
<v Speaker 1>Because the last two games Buddy Heild has been prime

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Klay Thompson. It's been really it's just impressive.

0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Did you give them no chance to win this series?

0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 1>If Steph is out? Call it?

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:07.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is seven more days? Is the series

0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:08.399
<v Speaker 2>over by then?

0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:08.959
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 2>They the Warriors could lose like one game.

0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:16.840
<v Speaker 1>The earliest he could be back, realistically is game six

0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:22.680
<v Speaker 1>because they play tonight Saturday, so that's game Uh so

0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:24.719
<v Speaker 1>let me do it like this. They already played game one.

0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:29.759
<v Speaker 1>Tonight is Game two, Saturday is Game three, Monday is

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:35.320
<v Speaker 1>Game four. Wednesday is game five. Then they don't play

0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Did I do that wrong? They play Thursday, Sat. Yeah,

0:46:41.120 --> 0:46:46.640
<v Speaker 1>I did do that. No, Thursday, Saturday, Monday, Wednesday, and

0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:50.839
<v Speaker 1>then the next game is Sunday. I think the if

0:46:50.880 --> 0:46:51.800
<v Speaker 1>the Knicks.

0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Can go out there and do that to the Celtics

0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:55.680
<v Speaker 2>and win the second game, I think the Warriors can

0:46:55.719 --> 0:46:58.120
<v Speaker 2>go back and beat them.

0:46:58.040 --> 0:47:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Without Steph Curry. But it's just I just don't listen.

0:47:02.000 --> 0:47:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I think Jimmy's been good but not unbelievable.

0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Bud keep hitting. Yes, I don't. I think Buddy healed

0:47:11.880 --> 0:47:14.760
<v Speaker 1>is you know, going to regress more to the mean there?

0:47:15.480 --> 0:47:24.239
<v Speaker 1>And uh, I also think and this was do you

0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:28.279
<v Speaker 1>guys remember when the Lakers went down three to one

0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:32.480
<v Speaker 1>to Minnesota and I came on here and said, I

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:35.839
<v Speaker 1>don't think necessarily the series is over. It obviously was,

0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:42.800
<v Speaker 1>but the Lakers' title hopes are done. And the reason

0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:45.319
<v Speaker 1>I said was because now the only way to get

0:47:45.320 --> 0:47:48.919
<v Speaker 1>out of Round one is they have to play every

0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:52.400
<v Speaker 1>other day, win a Game seven, and then start a

0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:55.640
<v Speaker 1>series where they're playing every other day for the entirety

0:47:55.640 --> 0:48:01.439
<v Speaker 1>of it, basically, and there are too old and too

0:48:01.560 --> 0:48:03.759
<v Speaker 1>thin of a team in order for that to be

0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:12.600
<v Speaker 1>an effective path. Essentially, that is now where the Warriors

0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:17.720
<v Speaker 1>are and you saw it immediately. Bite Steph, a player

0:48:17.760 --> 0:48:20.280
<v Speaker 1>who has never had a hamstring injury in his life,

0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:25.799
<v Speaker 1>ended up having to play every other day against that

0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:30.839
<v Speaker 1>Rockets defense running around like that. Windy said that since

0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:34.520
<v Speaker 1>they've started tracking, this Game seven against Houston was the

0:48:34.560 --> 0:48:38.640
<v Speaker 1>most like mileage Steph has run on the court in

0:48:38.719 --> 0:48:43.120
<v Speaker 1>a game in his career, and a quarter and a

0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:45.120
<v Speaker 1>half into the next game, he suffers his first ever

0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:51.239
<v Speaker 1>hamstring injury. Like that, every game matters, and the Warriors

0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:56.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of punted game five against Houston and then let

0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:59.160
<v Speaker 1>go of the rope in the fourth quarter of Game six,

0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:01.120
<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden they find themselves in a

0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Game seven. And then all of a sudden, you find

0:49:03.560 --> 0:49:06.600
<v Speaker 1>yourself two days later playing in a Game one, and

0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:12.120
<v Speaker 1>even though you win it, that's the ultimate when the

0:49:12.160 --> 0:49:15.480
<v Speaker 1>battle lose the war. And so no, I listen, I

0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:19.319
<v Speaker 1>think the Timberwolves, we're talking about three point regression with

0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:24.520
<v Speaker 1>the Celtics. Timberwolves are now like twelve of seventy over

0:49:24.560 --> 0:49:29.080
<v Speaker 1>their last two games or something insane. And so I

0:49:30.600 --> 0:49:39.120
<v Speaker 1>don't I think that when we get to Game five

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:43.279
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be three to one. I think we're gonna

0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:44.920
<v Speaker 1>be I think the Minnesota is gonna win. The next

0:49:44.960 --> 0:49:48.640
<v Speaker 1>three is the short version of it, and I think

0:49:48.680 --> 0:49:51.240
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be three to one going back to Minnesota.

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:55.239
<v Speaker 1>And here's the other piece. They ruled Steph out a

0:49:55.280 --> 0:50:00.279
<v Speaker 1>week immediately, so game six is the earliest hea could

0:50:00.320 --> 0:50:04.759
<v Speaker 1>come back. That's probably not realistic. But even if he

0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:08.239
<v Speaker 1>is back for Game six. Are you gonna get a

0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:12.759
<v Speaker 1>fully healthy, fully functional Steff I don't know, so, yeah,

0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I think though, I think the Warriors are done. I

0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:18.760
<v Speaker 1>think Kur has done a great job. I think Jimmy's

0:50:18.800 --> 0:50:21.799
<v Speaker 1>been good and Draymond the last two games. To go

0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:24.840
<v Speaker 1>along with what had been great defense, he actually provided

0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:28.000
<v Speaker 1>some offensive punch. I don't think any of that's sustainable.

0:50:28.560 --> 0:50:31.000
<v Speaker 1>What are your follow ups here? A couple of Aunt

0:50:31.000 --> 0:50:31.600
<v Speaker 1>follow ups.

0:50:31.600 --> 0:50:35.560
<v Speaker 2>So Chris Finch, head coach, came out and said, we

0:50:35.640 --> 0:50:37.720
<v Speaker 2>had one and a half one point in the first half.

0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:39.799
<v Speaker 2>You're the leader of the team and you've got to

0:50:39.800 --> 0:50:42.399
<v Speaker 2>come out and set the tone. If your SHOT's not going,

0:50:42.440 --> 0:50:46.000
<v Speaker 2>you still have to carry the energy. Yeah. How do

0:50:46.000 --> 0:50:46.719
<v Speaker 2>you feel about that?

0:50:47.760 --> 0:50:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I so Chris Finch is not afraid to kind

0:50:54.200 --> 0:50:58.840
<v Speaker 1>of call out his star player, and Aunt clearly disagreed

0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:01.080
<v Speaker 1>with him. Ant said, you know, I thought I just

0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:03.400
<v Speaker 1>my shot wasn't falling. I was still there on defense.

0:51:04.200 --> 0:51:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I think Chris Finch has done a really good job.

0:51:08.239 --> 0:51:16.640
<v Speaker 1>I also think that I it wouldn't make sense for

0:51:16.800 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Aunt to be tired. They only played five against the Lakers.

0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:23.120
<v Speaker 1>It's only round two. He's twenty three years old. We

0:51:23.200 --> 0:51:26.600
<v Speaker 1>did see last year he said he got exhausted by

0:51:26.600 --> 0:51:30.200
<v Speaker 1>the conference finals. I am not yet ready to say

0:51:30.320 --> 0:51:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that is happening. I am ready to say

0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:36.879
<v Speaker 1>it is something to monitor. But I think Ant's gonna

0:51:36.920 --> 0:51:40.799
<v Speaker 1>come out and be outstanding tonight, and you know, he

0:51:40.880 --> 0:51:45.120
<v Speaker 1>finally hit some shots and he'll be fine. So I'm

0:51:45.239 --> 0:51:48.919
<v Speaker 1>not panicked about that. And I also am not as

0:51:49.120 --> 0:51:53.280
<v Speaker 1>angry at Aunt for the laughing about the three point shooting.

0:51:53.320 --> 0:51:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Brew was pissed. Brew was like, he's gotta be more serious.

0:51:56.400 --> 0:52:01.359
<v Speaker 1>I just think Ant is so overly confident, that is

0:52:01.400 --> 0:52:05.880
<v Speaker 1>so incredibly competent. I should say that sometimes he feels

0:52:05.920 --> 0:52:08.400
<v Speaker 1>like everything's gonna be fine, and that can be a

0:52:08.440 --> 0:52:11.600
<v Speaker 1>gift and a curse. I think he'll be fine. All right,

0:52:11.640 --> 0:52:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Let's quickly get to the other series. Let's quickly get

0:52:14.280 --> 0:52:15.120
<v Speaker 1>to the other series.

0:52:15.360 --> 0:52:18.840
<v Speaker 2>The Pacers have stolen two now at home in the

0:52:18.880 --> 0:52:22.560
<v Speaker 2>Calves building. That overrated poll came out of the perfect

0:52:22.600 --> 0:52:25.880
<v Speaker 2>time for Haller Burdon. The Calves have some injuries going on.

0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Garland's been out for the last two, Mobley and Hunter

0:52:28.960 --> 0:52:33.000
<v Speaker 2>miss game two, Mitchell showing out. Though we have forty

0:52:33.040 --> 0:52:35.160
<v Speaker 2>eight points. How do you feel about the what's the

0:52:35.200 --> 0:52:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Cavs situation.

0:52:36.640 --> 0:52:40.320
<v Speaker 1>I think they might be booked. I don't think a sweep,

0:52:40.480 --> 0:52:44.440
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know how you can recover from that

0:52:44.600 --> 0:52:50.040
<v Speaker 1>type of loss. Donovan Mitchell scores forty eight. Donovan Mitchell Now,

0:52:50.040 --> 0:52:54.600
<v Speaker 1>by the way, complete list of NBA players who have

0:52:54.840 --> 0:53:00.000
<v Speaker 1>multiple forty eight plus point playoff games that they lost,

0:53:01.239 --> 0:53:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Michael Jordan, Lebron, James, Donovan Mitchell. That's the list. Donovan

0:53:07.480 --> 0:53:13.000
<v Speaker 1>has scored forty eight, fifty and fifty seven in playoff losses.

0:53:14.960 --> 0:53:20.600
<v Speaker 1>But to melt the way they did where you're up seven,

0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:24.719
<v Speaker 1>here's another crazy one for you, Demanse. Since they've been

0:53:24.719 --> 0:53:28.000
<v Speaker 1>tracking this since ninety seven in the playoffs, as of

0:53:28.040 --> 0:53:34.400
<v Speaker 1>a week ago, teams down seven in the final minute

0:53:34.600 --> 0:53:39.520
<v Speaker 1>were one and one thousand, one hundred and sixty or something.

0:53:39.800 --> 0:53:43.080
<v Speaker 1>The only team that had ever come back from seven

0:53:43.160 --> 0:53:47.239
<v Speaker 1>down in the playoffs in the final minute was Oklahoma

0:53:47.320 --> 0:53:51.480
<v Speaker 1>City in twenty fourteen against lob City when Chris Paul

0:53:52.000 --> 0:53:54.760
<v Speaker 1>tried to draw a foul in the backcourt like launched

0:53:54.760 --> 0:53:56.480
<v Speaker 1>a sixty footer because he was trying to get a

0:53:56.480 --> 0:53:58.560
<v Speaker 1>shooting foul on it. They didn't call the foul, and

0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:02.239
<v Speaker 1>it kind of snow on them. The Pacers have done

0:54:02.239 --> 0:54:05.759
<v Speaker 1>it twice in a week. It had been done once. Ever,

0:54:06.120 --> 0:54:07.920
<v Speaker 1>the Baser has done it twice in a week to

0:54:08.040 --> 0:54:11.759
<v Speaker 1>the Bucks to eliminate them in the Tyres slash John

0:54:11.840 --> 0:54:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Halliburton game, and then this past game and the Cavs

0:54:15.920 --> 0:54:20.400
<v Speaker 1>couldn't get the ball past half court. Those plus the injuries,

0:54:21.560 --> 0:54:25.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that kind of trauma, that sports trauma plus

0:54:25.800 --> 0:54:30.239
<v Speaker 1>the injuries might just kill them. That might just be

0:54:30.320 --> 0:54:35.839
<v Speaker 1>all she wrote. And so I I think that. I

0:54:35.920 --> 0:54:41.879
<v Speaker 1>also think that if Pacers fans are saying, guys, we

0:54:42.000 --> 0:54:48.480
<v Speaker 1>made the conference finals last year and we took Boston

0:54:48.520 --> 0:54:52.800
<v Speaker 1>to overtime and then Tyrese Halliburton got injured and missed

0:54:52.800 --> 0:54:56.920
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the series like we were, nobody takes

0:54:56.960 --> 0:55:01.600
<v Speaker 1>this seriously. I understand the first stration if they feel

0:55:01.600 --> 0:55:05.200
<v Speaker 1>that way, but I just think the injuries now are

0:55:05.280 --> 0:55:09.680
<v Speaker 1>too much, and I will take it one step further,

0:55:10.480 --> 0:55:14.759
<v Speaker 1>and again Pacers fans are going to be pissed. I

0:55:14.760 --> 0:55:16.800
<v Speaker 1>think the winner of Boston New York is going to

0:55:16.840 --> 0:55:22.560
<v Speaker 1>go to the NBA Finals, which means I guess by proxy,

0:55:22.680 --> 0:55:25.120
<v Speaker 1>since I just said I think the Knicks are gonna

0:55:25.120 --> 0:55:28.759
<v Speaker 1>win the series. I think the Knicks are going to

0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:36.000
<v Speaker 1>be playing in the NBA Finals. That's crazy. It's so crazy.

0:55:35.800 --> 0:55:38.560
<v Speaker 1>You think you think it's you think I'm wrong.

0:55:38.719 --> 0:55:41.919
<v Speaker 2>You just jumping ship to ship. They're all sinking. But yeah,

0:55:41.960 --> 0:55:44.200
<v Speaker 2>the New York Knicks ship is going to think.

0:55:44.040 --> 0:55:46.400
<v Speaker 1>As well, what do you mean jumping ship to ship?

0:55:46.719 --> 0:55:48.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean Lakers?

0:55:48.080 --> 0:55:52.920
<v Speaker 2>And then okay, well I guess about divers making the finals? Yeah, yes,

0:55:53.040 --> 0:55:53.640
<v Speaker 2>it was Lakers.

0:55:53.960 --> 0:55:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Your Knicks, no, no, no, no, no, hold on to

0:55:57.280 --> 0:56:02.200
<v Speaker 1>win the championship. I was Lakers, yes, and now okay, yeah,

0:56:02.280 --> 0:56:06.320
<v Speaker 1>nixt to go all right? They got to play someone

0:56:06.360 --> 0:56:10.600
<v Speaker 1>in the finals. I was Boston. But your team doesn't

0:56:10.600 --> 0:56:13.480
<v Speaker 1>know how to shoot a layup or they're allergic to it.

0:56:14.960 --> 0:56:18.960
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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's quickly do an NFL thing before we

0:56:53.080 --> 0:56:54.240
<v Speaker 1>get to listener questions.

0:56:54.680 --> 0:56:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Cowboys made a move on George Pickens, wide receiver from Pittsburgh.

0:56:59.760 --> 0:57:02.840
<v Speaker 2>So Pickens is on a contract here, and we know

0:57:03.000 --> 0:57:07.080
<v Speaker 2>he's had some some character things in the past, whatever

0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:08.960
<v Speaker 2>you want to call them. Where do you think the

0:57:09.080 --> 0:57:11.840
<v Speaker 2>chances are the chances are this going wrong in Dallas?

0:57:12.400 --> 0:57:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, listen, I don't think it's necessarily going to go

0:57:14.960 --> 0:57:17.120
<v Speaker 1>wrong as much as I just don't think it's gonna

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:22.640
<v Speaker 1>be a wildly impactful I think that I think Pickens

0:57:22.720 --> 0:57:25.480
<v Speaker 1>is a fine player. I think he's a little overrated

0:57:25.920 --> 0:57:32.600
<v Speaker 1>because his highlights are so great, and I think you'd

0:57:32.600 --> 0:57:38.000
<v Speaker 1>be insane to pay him early, and so I would

0:57:38.040 --> 0:57:40.320
<v Speaker 1>think he's gonna be pissed that he's not gonna get

0:57:40.320 --> 0:57:44.440
<v Speaker 1>paid early. And if you don't pay him early, you

0:57:44.600 --> 0:57:47.800
<v Speaker 1>traded a third round pick for a rental, which, also,

0:57:47.920 --> 0:57:51.360
<v Speaker 1>given where Dallas is, that seems odd like it's just

0:57:51.440 --> 0:57:53.960
<v Speaker 1>not a move I would make. Like I think there

0:57:53.960 --> 0:57:57.680
<v Speaker 1>are certain guys that are just not really winning or quality,

0:57:57.720 --> 0:58:01.200
<v Speaker 1>like the juice is not worth the squeeze. I think

0:58:01.240 --> 0:58:07.960
<v Speaker 1>he's one of them, and I think that he obviously

0:58:08.040 --> 0:58:12.520
<v Speaker 1>has this massive talent, but he fell in the draft

0:58:12.680 --> 0:58:15.400
<v Speaker 1>because he's such a pain in the ass. Pittsburgh was

0:58:15.440 --> 0:58:17.800
<v Speaker 1>shopping him a year into his career because he's a

0:58:17.840 --> 0:58:19.880
<v Speaker 1>pain in the ass, and he was only worth a

0:58:19.920 --> 0:58:22.760
<v Speaker 1>third round pick because he's a pain in the ass.

0:58:22.800 --> 0:58:27.560
<v Speaker 1>And so you add to all that that, I know

0:58:27.600 --> 0:58:30.640
<v Speaker 1>people will be like, oh, now he's not gonna be

0:58:30.680 --> 0:58:33.880
<v Speaker 1>getting doubled like he was in Pittsburgh. Man. Some wide

0:58:33.920 --> 0:58:36.919
<v Speaker 1>receivers like being the number two option because they see

0:58:36.920 --> 0:58:40.200
<v Speaker 1>softer coverages. Some wide receivers are like, I just want

0:58:40.400 --> 0:58:45.400
<v Speaker 1>ten targets a game, and so all of that, all

0:58:45.480 --> 0:58:48.880
<v Speaker 1>of that concerns me in a significant way. All Right,

0:58:48.920 --> 0:58:54.120
<v Speaker 1>A reminder, do you guys like rate? Subscribe, review on YouTube, iTunes, Spotify,

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere to get to some of the Tuesday questions before

0:58:59.040 --> 0:59:03.600
<v Speaker 1>we get to today's. My big crow is listening from Croatia.

0:59:04.120 --> 0:59:06.720
<v Speaker 1>It's very kind of you, man, And by the way,

0:59:07.000 --> 0:59:10.479
<v Speaker 1>that's on my list. My pal Zach Lowe goes there

0:59:10.680 --> 0:59:13.120
<v Speaker 1>every summer, I think because his wife is from there,

0:59:13.360 --> 0:59:19.280
<v Speaker 1>I've heard nothing but amazing things, and I really want

0:59:19.280 --> 0:59:22.160
<v Speaker 1>to check it out. All right, go to Curtis's question

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<v Speaker 1>Demons from Tuesday.

0:59:24.160 --> 0:59:26.760
<v Speaker 2>If you had to start one bench one and cut

0:59:26.800 --> 0:59:30.920
<v Speaker 2>one of these three players, what would be your order? Joker, Luca,

0:59:31.040 --> 0:59:31.720
<v Speaker 2>and Yannis.

0:59:32.680 --> 0:59:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Well that's a kind of unfair. Listen. You guys know

0:59:37.320 --> 0:59:39.960
<v Speaker 1>how much I love Luca and how great I think

0:59:40.000 --> 0:59:44.840
<v Speaker 1>he is. But of the you picked the two guys

0:59:44.880 --> 0:59:47.960
<v Speaker 1>in the league better than him, So I mean the

0:59:48.000 --> 0:59:51.480
<v Speaker 1>answer has to be you start Joker, you bench, be honest,

0:59:51.520 --> 0:59:54.120
<v Speaker 1>and you cut Luca. But if you did a start

0:59:54.160 --> 0:59:58.120
<v Speaker 1>bench cut with literally any other group of players and Luca,

0:59:58.520 --> 1:00:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Luca would be my starter. But if you're the third

1:00:02.280 --> 1:00:06.840
<v Speaker 1>best and three best players in the league and he's third,

1:00:06.960 --> 1:00:08.440
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, that's what the answer is.

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<v Speaker 2>Bronson, Bronson that level yet, go ahead, But Danny says

1:00:15.760 --> 1:00:17.600
<v Speaker 2>it feels like the search for the face of the

1:00:17.640 --> 1:00:20.120
<v Speaker 2>league has become irrelevant. Do you think we should stop

1:00:20.160 --> 1:00:22.240
<v Speaker 2>trying to force the issue and just enjoy the game?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't think any I mean, I don't mind

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation. I don't think there's any real forcing of

1:00:28.400 --> 1:00:31.400
<v Speaker 1>the issue, and it doesn't prevent me from enjoying the game.

1:00:31.520 --> 1:00:33.200
<v Speaker 1>So that's not a problem, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Next one, negative four and two if the Nuggets make

1:00:38.240 --> 1:00:40.600
<v Speaker 2>it to the conference finals, when Nicola Yo could secure

1:00:40.640 --> 1:00:42.080
<v Speaker 2>the head coaching job and didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, he is doing a nice little player

1:00:44.640 --> 1:00:47.080
<v Speaker 1>coach job, which I've enjoyed watching.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get to today's all right, So Eu a thunder

1:00:49.760 --> 1:00:54.000
<v Speaker 2>here says about Boston chucking threes is the lazy way

1:00:54.040 --> 1:00:57.280
<v Speaker 2>of playing the game. Hopefully this will send ripples through

1:00:57.320 --> 1:00:59.600
<v Speaker 2>the league and resent this ugly.

1:00:59.440 --> 1:01:04.600
<v Speaker 1>Tree said this. Listen, I I don't enjoy watching it

1:01:04.640 --> 1:01:07.680
<v Speaker 1>as much as I enjoy different kind of diverse styles

1:01:07.720 --> 1:01:12.240
<v Speaker 1>of play, So that that is my hope to a

1:01:12.280 --> 1:01:15.080
<v Speaker 1>degree that this at least stems the tide a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to Ryan.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you remember a more surprising conference finals than the

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<v Speaker 2>potential Nicks versus Pacers series.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very, very rare that both teams are a surprise.

1:01:26.560 --> 1:01:29.000
<v Speaker 1>It was a surprise last year the Pacers made it,

1:01:29.320 --> 1:01:31.360
<v Speaker 1>you know a few years ago. It was to me

1:01:31.440 --> 1:01:38.320
<v Speaker 1>a real big surprise when uh, the Blazers made it.

1:01:39.120 --> 1:01:42.800
<v Speaker 1>I think some would argue last year's Western Conference Finals

1:01:44.680 --> 1:01:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Dallas Minnesota was shocking. But I had picked Dallas from

1:01:49.400 --> 1:01:51.080
<v Speaker 1>the beginning, so that didn't shock me, but I think

1:01:51.080 --> 1:01:54.560
<v Speaker 1>it probably did shock the world to a degree. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go to Adrian.

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<v Speaker 2>Adrian, are we gonna Are we gonna talk about how

1:01:58.200 --> 1:02:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Yo Kich really has been very turnover prone and lacking

1:02:01.480 --> 1:02:04.000
<v Speaker 2>his usual efficiency for the last four to five games.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Okay, so listen, I think that is a slight overstatement.

1:02:09.000 --> 1:02:12.800
<v Speaker 1>So if you just go to Joker's game log, he

1:02:12.880 --> 1:02:16.040
<v Speaker 1>had the one game what game was it? It was

1:02:16.120 --> 1:02:21.080
<v Speaker 1>game like ten. He had seven in one of either

1:02:21.160 --> 1:02:25.480
<v Speaker 1>game two or three against the Clippers, And I said, listen, yeah,

1:02:25.520 --> 1:02:29.400
<v Speaker 1>it was Game two against the Clippers. He had seven turnovers,

1:02:29.920 --> 1:02:32.960
<v Speaker 1>only it was eight of sixteen from the field. So

1:02:33.400 --> 1:02:37.760
<v Speaker 1>what I think he's talking about is this Game five

1:02:37.800 --> 1:02:42.000
<v Speaker 1>against the Clippers, he was four of thirteen, but they

1:02:42.040 --> 1:02:46.160
<v Speaker 1>won in a blowout. Game seven against the Clippers he

1:02:46.280 --> 1:02:48.800
<v Speaker 1>was six to fourteen, but with five turnovers that they

1:02:48.840 --> 1:02:55.000
<v Speaker 1>won in a blowout. It is true that what's you

1:02:55.080 --> 1:02:59.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna call that? Zubos has given Joker trouble. Now the

1:03:00.040 --> 1:03:02.840
<v Speaker 1>these two games in this series, he has seven and

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<v Speaker 1>six turnovers. Yesterday and he had six fouls and he

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<v Speaker 1>never got into the game and the refs seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>be bothering him yesterday. Obviously, Joker didn't play well. No

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<v Speaker 1>one on the team played well. I didn't focus on

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<v Speaker 1>the seven turnovers in game one because he did that

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<v Speaker 1>along with forty two, twenty two and six in beating

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<v Speaker 1>the one seed, So so listen, he five plus turnovers

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<v Speaker 1>obviously too many, But I think his efficiency will be

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<v Speaker 1>higher this series than it was last series, when he

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<v Speaker 1>was exactly at fifty percent from the field still forty

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<v Speaker 1>five percent from three, because I don't think hartensteiner Chet

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<v Speaker 1>can give him the same problems Zubats can. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta run. Great job, Demond's a great job. Blewe duck,

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<v Speaker 1>great job volume. I'll see you guys on the TV

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<v Speaker 1>show at three and then I'm actually also doing Collins

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<v Speaker 1>Pod later tonight, So busy day for me. See you

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<v Speaker 1>guys there. We'll train