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Speaker 1: Welcome in. What's drive in the Great episode three twenty

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Speaker 1: nine on a busy day and after an absolutely insane

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Speaker 1: for my money, last night was kind of the perfect

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Speaker 1: night of playoff basketball because we had one all time

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Speaker 1: game with an all time comeback and one game that

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Speaker 1: was over at halftime, so I finally could get some sleep.

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Speaker 1: Sweet Jesus man, I have been a zombie the last month.

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Speaker 1: These games every single night, they're all good. It feels

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Speaker 1: like no lead is safe. But the Oklahoma City lead

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Speaker 1: over Denver, I was like, that one feels safe. So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be totally honest with you. I didn't watch

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Speaker 1: second half of that game. I've been locked into everything

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Speaker 1: that one, went to bed early, felt good about it. Demons,

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Speaker 1: welcome in. I applaud that you have not taken the

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Speaker 1: Celtics jersey down. They maybe, by the way, might ask

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Speaker 1: give them a good six minutes off the bench, because

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Speaker 1: you'll at least go to the basket and so necessary.

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Speaker 1: That would be necessary. Also, while the West Coast is

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Speaker 1: a good place in theory to be a sports fan,

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Speaker 1: nights like last night kind of a bummer because by

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Speaker 1: seven pm, you're just evenings ruined. Like you could have

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Speaker 1: a whole, you know, nice night in front of you,

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Speaker 1: but four fifteen start, seven o'clock finish, and it's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: well that sucked. So we'll get to all of that.

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Speaker 1: We're going to spend a lot of time on Nick

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Speaker 1: Celtics and then the other things. But first, what missed

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Speaker 1: the cut? A Sue Bird has become the USA Basketball

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Speaker 1: Managing director for the women's national team. Rob Blinka got

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Speaker 1: one vote for Executive of the Year. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I got no problem with that. Answering the phone is

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Speaker 1: answering the phone. An NBA Draft lottery is Monday. The

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Speaker 1: producers want me to tell you who I want to

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Speaker 1: win the Cooper Flag Sweepstakes. Honestly, I want Miami to

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Speaker 1: win it. I feel like Jimmy Butler did them dirty

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Speaker 1: and I would like to see the Miami Oh wait,

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Speaker 1: I'm an idiot. I'm a total idiot. The Miami Heat

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Speaker 1: can't win it. They could have at the end of

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Speaker 1: the regular season, but since they made the playoffs, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they they actually can't win it. So of the teams

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Speaker 1: I guess my answer because yeah, because Miami beat Atlanta

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Speaker 1: to get to get No, I don't want him to

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Speaker 1: be with these silly teams. I certainly don't want Dallas

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Speaker 1: They're trying to I don't want the Spurs to win.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't seem fair. The the most fun one is Philly.

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Speaker 1: Philly just gets a total Paul George get out of

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Speaker 1: jail free card if they win it. But okay, let's

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Speaker 1: get to the act news of the day, Demons, which

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Speaker 1: is the fact that your team stinks.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, so yesterday Game two pretty much a carbon

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Speaker 2: copy of Game one. The Knicks pull off another twenty

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Speaker 1: That's I don't I don't know what.

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Speaker 2: To say here. It's we're still relying on the three.

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Speaker 2: Seems like we didn't get less to twenty less, but

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Speaker 2: still we're taking threes in spots where it's just like,

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Speaker 1: You didn't love the Jason Tatum up seven.

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Speaker 2: Jalen was on the ground, on the ground, Josh Harratt

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Speaker 2: fifteen feet away. Yeah, how do you feel about the

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Speaker 2: series or do you want me to go in China.

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Speaker 1: Oh we can. I mean I'll go, and then we

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Speaker 1: can go back and forth. The Knicks can win, and

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Speaker 1: they the Knicks deserve, they deserve to be the story.

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Speaker 1: But they are not the story. The Knicks deserve to

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Speaker 1: They have been down twenty points in the second half

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Speaker 1: But the store and we will I promise we'll spend

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Speaker 1: a lot of time on the Knicks, but the story

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday, Planning for this moment meant for more than

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Speaker 1: They just thought it was gonna be the first five games.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be a nice, friendly, gentleman sweep. But

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Speaker 1: we are now here. Everyone's gonna focus on the three

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Speaker 1: is the biggest story surrounding them being down. The biggest

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't that he played more games. It was

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Speaker 1: just this felt like the best Tatum year because you

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Speaker 1: saw Jason Tatum in the Olympics and said, can't use you. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: then let me add another piece to it. After a

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Speaker 1: holy shit, Jase, this extra level that Bill Simmons has

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Speaker 1: been swearing on his children exists for years. For Jason

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Speaker 1: take we're seeing it. And then in back to back games,

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Speaker 1: and complete non factor in the fourth quarter of these games.

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Speaker 1: The only play he made last night was when the

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Speaker 1: I said to Kevin Wilds when I facetimed him yesterday.

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Speaker 1: And I know this is going to sound unfair, but

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Speaker 1: He's an excellent player. But what I said to Wilds

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Speaker 1: to force us into some really tricky conversations. What do

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Speaker 1: And my answer to that is Tatum is an excellent player.

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Speaker 1: He is not yet in the We need to evaluate

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Speaker 1: It feels to me like if his three isn't falling,

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Speaker 1: it knocks him off the rest of his game. And

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Speaker 1: just did Lebotard Show, and this is the point I

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Speaker 1: was trying to make the Celtics bum three strategy over

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Speaker 1: the long haul. Obviously, it's just a smart mathematical strategy.

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Speaker 1: As sample sizes get smaller, you put yourself more at

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Speaker 1: the team that really originated this strategy was Darryl Moury's Rockets.

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Speaker 1: But here's why. For Daryl Morey's Rockets it made total sense.

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Speaker 1: we're gonna throw some wild haymakers and risk getting knocked

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Speaker 1: out because that's our chance. This strategy for the Celtics

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Speaker 1: maybe wouldn't make sense if this were the NBA Finals

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Speaker 1: All year long, they've been better, they have the better resume,

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Speaker 1: they they're best players, better than our best player. They're

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Speaker 1: better than us, So let's add some uncertainty to it.

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Speaker 1: Up twenty points in the second half against the New

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Speaker 1: It's it's an insane It's not an insane way to play.

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Speaker 1: It's insane demande not to adjust, yeah, and not to

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Speaker 1: have It's a team, it's a football team that their

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Speaker 1: here's the other piece of it. You've got Jason Tatum.

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Speaker 1: He's six' eight, it's an amazing shape. He can get

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Speaker 1: lose both. And it's the first twenty point lead. I

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Speaker 1: said it Tuesday. The Knicks made that a game faster

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So he's been am i with some type of

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Speaker 2: our chances? You think with him being in and out

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Speaker 1: So the Porzingis thing is bizarre and you feel terribly

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Speaker 1: It's not you know, it's not the flu. It's not

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Speaker 1: also everything matters, and even if they are able to

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Speaker 1: These extra miles on Horford, Yeah, are tough for one

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Speaker 2: I think we'll win the series, and I'd like to

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Speaker 2: I'd like to just take what the defense has given

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I this is it's just it's we're

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Speaker 1: All right, demanse, let's get to this other stuff. I

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, So you decided to jump on the Denver bandwagon,

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Speaker 2: and they followed that with a forty five or forty

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Speaker 2: maybe you should jump the ship so things start winning again.

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Speaker 1: Russ was there?

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Speaker 2: Lee, Okay, so you couldn't miss any shots. Do you

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Speaker 2: think the first game was more telling or do you

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Speaker 2: to be?

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, I jumping on the Denver bandwagon is maybe

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Speaker 1: So right now on DraftKings, Nope, the Thunder are not

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Speaker 1: Boston is plus three ten, the Calves are plus eight

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Speaker 1: point fifty, the Timberwolves are ten to one, the Knicks

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Speaker 1: thirteen to one, the Pacers fifteen to one, the Nuggets

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Speaker 1: seventeen to one, and the Warriors twenty five to one.

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Speaker 2: Knocked at the Warriors having the least.

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Speaker 1: Odds, Well, that is to me, Uh.

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Speaker 2: They're saying curries, They're they're going to be screwed without him?

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Speaker 1: Is but yes, that is that is the the essentially

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Speaker 1: the Warriors therket place saying maybe Steph will come back.

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Speaker 1: We don't want to write them off. Like but what

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Speaker 1: I do find so fascinating about it is that it

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Speaker 1: I can quite remember. Okay, so there, so there's that.

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Speaker 1: Now to answer the game about last night. About last night,

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Speaker 1: I don't think either game is really indicative of the series.

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Speaker 1: But I think Game one is more indicative, not because

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Speaker 1: the Nuggets are gonna win it, but because Game one

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Speaker 1: was evidence of any game the Nuggets are going to

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Speaker 1: have a real chance. Jokers going to have to be transcendent.

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Speaker 3: That is.

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Speaker 1: That is the in my opinion, the real story here.

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Speaker 1: And the thunder who hadn't faced you know, they've won

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Speaker 1: two playoff series together as a group. The only real

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Speaker 1: adversity they faced in games that mattered was last year

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Speaker 1: against Dallas and Luca got the better of them for

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Speaker 1: the Thunders. For the Thunder to come out and score

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Speaker 1: an NBA record eighty seven first half points and just

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Speaker 1: absolutely annihilate Denver, to me, was a reminder of how

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Speaker 1: good this team is when it is firing on all cylins.

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Speaker 2: How much do you think Denver let their foot off

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Speaker 2: the gas? You know, feel uncomfortable? They stole that game one,

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Speaker 2: so right, It's.

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Speaker 1: Not so much they let their foot off the gas.

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Speaker 1: It's that I think they went into the game peak motivation,

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Speaker 1: and when the Thunder hit them with haymakers, then they're like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: tonight's not our night. And that's, by the way, that's fine.

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Speaker 1: Like the it's now whenever you're yeah, whenever you're the

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Speaker 1: inferior team, what you want to do is just keep

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Speaker 1: shortening the series. And so now it's not a best

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Speaker 1: of seven, it's a best of five now, and Denver

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Speaker 1: as home court, Like that's how they that's how they

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Speaker 1: have to look at it is. It's now a best

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Speaker 1: of five. It's first to three, and we've got three

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Speaker 1: of the five games in our building. And so now

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Speaker 1: are they going to go back to Oklahoma City Denver

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Speaker 1: that is up three to one. No, I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's realistic at all. What I do think

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Speaker 1: is Denver's goal is to then make it a best

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Speaker 1: of three, and have you know they won't to have

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Speaker 1: home court that in that scenario, make it a best

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Speaker 1: of three, get it back at two to two, and

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Speaker 1: then hope that somehow it can become a best of

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Speaker 1: one game seven. And so Oklahoma City has the highest

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Speaker 1: s of any team in the league. I think they've

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Speaker 1: demonstrated that. And they are now seventy three and fifteen.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty good, all right, Let's get on go on

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Speaker 1: to Warriors two Wolves.

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Speaker 2: Warriors won Game one on the road without Steph. I

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Speaker 2: think he went out like eight minutes left in the

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Speaker 2: second quarter. They still pulled it off. I think he

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Speaker 2: suffered a hamstring strain. It's going to be out at

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Speaker 2: least a week. Do you give the Doves any chance

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Speaker 2: to win without Steph?

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Speaker 1: No? And I thought that was a great win by them,

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Speaker 1: And I thought Steve Kerr was brilliant and playing thirteen

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Speaker 1: guys adjusting on the fly and Buddy Heald. Like these

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Speaker 1: last two games with Buddy Heeld, it reminds you of

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Speaker 1: how great the Warriors were when they had prime Klay Thompson.

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Speaker 1: Because the last two games Buddy Heild has been prime

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Speaker 1: Klay Thompson. It's been really it's just impressive.

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Speaker 2: Did you give them no chance to win this series?

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Speaker 1: If Steph is out? Call it?

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is seven more days? Is the series

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Speaker 2: over by then?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: They the Warriors could lose like one game.

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Speaker 1: The earliest he could be back, realistically is game six

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Speaker 1: because they play tonight Saturday, so that's game Uh so

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Speaker 1: let me do it like this. They already played game one.

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Speaker 1: Tonight is Game two, Saturday is Game three, Monday is

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Speaker 1: Game four. Wednesday is game five. Then they don't play

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Speaker 1: Did I do that wrong? They play Thursday, Sat. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I did do that. No, Thursday, Saturday, Monday, Wednesday, and

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Speaker 1: then the next game is Sunday. I think the if

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Speaker 1: the Knicks.

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Speaker 2: Can go out there and do that to the Celtics

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Speaker 2: and win the second game, I think the Warriors can

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Speaker 2: go back and beat them.

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Speaker 1: Without Steph Curry. But it's just I just don't listen.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I think Jimmy's been good but not unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Bud keep hitting. Yes, I don't. I think Buddy healed

651
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Speaker 1: is you know, going to regress more to the mean there?

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Speaker 1: And uh, I also think and this was do you

653
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Speaker 1: guys remember when the Lakers went down three to one

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Speaker 1: to Minnesota and I came on here and said, I

655
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Speaker 1: don't think necessarily the series is over. It obviously was,

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Speaker 1: but the Lakers' title hopes are done. And the reason

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Speaker 1: I said was because now the only way to get

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Speaker 1: out of Round one is they have to play every

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Speaker 1: other day, win a Game seven, and then start a

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Speaker 1: series where they're playing every other day for the entirety

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Speaker 1: of it, basically, and there are too old and too

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Speaker 1: thin of a team in order for that to be

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Speaker 1: an effective path. Essentially, that is now where the Warriors

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Speaker 1: are and you saw it immediately. Bite Steph, a player

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Speaker 1: who has never had a hamstring injury in his life,

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Speaker 1: ended up having to play every other day against that

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Speaker 1: Rockets defense running around like that. Windy said that since

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Speaker 1: they've started tracking, this Game seven against Houston was the

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Speaker 1: most like mileage Steph has run on the court in

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Speaker 1: a game in his career, and a quarter and a

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Speaker 1: half into the next game, he suffers his first ever

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Speaker 1: hamstring injury. Like that, every game matters, and the Warriors

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00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: kind of punted game five against Houston and then let

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Speaker 1: go of the rope in the fourth quarter of Game six,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they find themselves in a

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Speaker 1: Game seven. And then all of a sudden, you find

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Speaker 1: yourself two days later playing in a Game one, and

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Speaker 1: even though you win it, that's the ultimate when the

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Speaker 1: battle lose the war. And so no, I listen, I

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Speaker 1: think the Timberwolves, we're talking about three point regression with

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Speaker 1: the Celtics. Timberwolves are now like twelve of seventy over

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Speaker 1: their last two games or something insane. And so I

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Speaker 1: don't I think that when we get to Game five

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be three to one. I think we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be I think the Minnesota is gonna win. The next

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Speaker 1: three is the short version of it, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be three to one going back to Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: And here's the other piece. They ruled Steph out a

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Speaker 1: week immediately, so game six is the earliest hea could

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Speaker 1: come back. That's probably not realistic. But even if he

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Speaker 1: is back for Game six. Are you gonna get a

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Speaker 1: fully healthy, fully functional Steff I don't know, so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think though, I think the Warriors are done. I

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Speaker 1: think Kur has done a great job. I think Jimmy's

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Speaker 1: been good and Draymond the last two games. To go

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Speaker 1: along with what had been great defense, he actually provided

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Speaker 1: some offensive punch. I don't think any of that's sustainable.

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Speaker 1: What are your follow ups here? A couple of Aunt

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Speaker 1: follow ups.

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Speaker 2: So Chris Finch, head coach, came out and said, we

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Speaker 2: had one and a half one point in the first half.

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Speaker 2: You're the leader of the team and you've got to

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Speaker 2: come out and set the tone. If your SHOT's not going,

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Speaker 2: you still have to carry the energy. Yeah. How do

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Speaker 2: you feel about that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I so Chris Finch is not afraid to kind

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Speaker 1: of call out his star player, and Aunt clearly disagreed

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Speaker 1: with him. Ant said, you know, I thought I just

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00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: my shot wasn't falling. I was still there on defense.

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Speaker 1: I think Chris Finch has done a really good job.

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Speaker 1: I also think that I it wouldn't make sense for

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Speaker 1: Aunt to be tired. They only played five against the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: It's only round two. He's twenty three years old. We

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Speaker 1: did see last year he said he got exhausted by

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Speaker 1: the conference finals. I am not yet ready to say

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Speaker 1: I think that is happening. I am ready to say

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Speaker 1: it is something to monitor. But I think Ant's gonna

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Speaker 1: come out and be outstanding tonight, and you know, he

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Speaker 1: finally hit some shots and he'll be fine. So I'm

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Speaker 1: not panicked about that. And I also am not as

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Speaker 1: angry at Aunt for the laughing about the three point shooting.

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Speaker 1: Brew was pissed. Brew was like, he's gotta be more serious.

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Speaker 1: I just think Ant is so overly confident, that is

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Speaker 1: so incredibly competent. I should say that sometimes he feels

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Speaker 1: like everything's gonna be fine, and that can be a

726
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Speaker 1: gift and a curse. I think he'll be fine. All right,

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Speaker 1: Let's quickly get to the other series. Let's quickly get

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Speaker 1: to the other series.

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Speaker 2: The Pacers have stolen two now at home in the

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Speaker 2: Calves building. That overrated poll came out of the perfect

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Speaker 2: time for Haller Burdon. The Calves have some injuries going on.

732
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Speaker 2: Garland's been out for the last two, Mobley and Hunter

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Speaker 2: miss game two, Mitchell showing out. Though we have forty

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Speaker 2: eight points. How do you feel about the what's the

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Speaker 2: Cavs situation.

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Speaker 1: I think they might be booked. I don't think a sweep,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know how you can recover from that

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Speaker 1: type of loss. Donovan Mitchell scores forty eight. Donovan Mitchell Now,

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Speaker 1: by the way, complete list of NBA players who have

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Speaker 1: multiple forty eight plus point playoff games that they lost,

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, Lebron, James, Donovan Mitchell. That's the list. Donovan

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Speaker 1: has scored forty eight, fifty and fifty seven in playoff losses.

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Speaker 1: But to melt the way they did where you're up seven,

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Speaker 1: here's another crazy one for you, Demanse. Since they've been

745
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Speaker 1: tracking this since ninety seven in the playoffs, as of

746
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Speaker 1: a week ago, teams down seven in the final minute

747
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Speaker 1: were one and one thousand, one hundred and sixty or something.

748
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Speaker 1: The only team that had ever come back from seven

749
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Speaker 1: down in the playoffs in the final minute was Oklahoma

750
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Speaker 1: City in twenty fourteen against lob City when Chris Paul

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Speaker 1: tried to draw a foul in the backcourt like launched

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Speaker 1: a sixty footer because he was trying to get a

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Speaker 1: shooting foul on it. They didn't call the foul, and

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Speaker 1: it kind of snow on them. The Pacers have done

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Speaker 1: it twice in a week. It had been done once. Ever,

756
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: the Baser has done it twice in a week to

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Speaker 1: the Bucks to eliminate them in the Tyres slash John

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00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: Halliburton game, and then this past game and the Cavs

759
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: couldn't get the ball past half court. Those plus the injuries,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that kind of trauma, that sports trauma plus

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Speaker 1: the injuries might just kill them. That might just be

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Speaker 1: all she wrote. And so I I think that. I

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Speaker 1: also think that if Pacers fans are saying, guys, we

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00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: made the conference finals last year and we took Boston

765
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 1: to overtime and then Tyrese Halliburton got injured and missed

766
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: the rest of the series like we were, nobody takes

767
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: this seriously. I understand the first stration if they feel

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Speaker 1: that way, but I just think the injuries now are

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Speaker 1: too much, and I will take it one step further,

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Speaker 1: and again Pacers fans are going to be pissed. I

771
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Speaker 1: think the winner of Boston New York is going to

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Speaker 1: go to the NBA Finals, which means I guess by proxy,

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Speaker 1: since I just said I think the Knicks are gonna

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Speaker 1: win the series. I think the Knicks are going to

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Speaker 1: be playing in the NBA Finals. That's crazy. It's so crazy.

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Speaker 1: You think you think it's you think I'm wrong.

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Speaker 2: You just jumping ship to ship. They're all sinking. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: the New York Knicks ship is going to think.

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Speaker 1: As well, what do you mean jumping ship to ship?

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Speaker 1: I mean Lakers?

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Speaker 2: And then okay, well I guess about divers making the finals? Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 2: it was Lakers.

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Speaker 1: Your Knicks, no, no, no, no, no, hold on to

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Speaker 1: win the championship. I was Lakers, yes, and now okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: nixt to go all right? They got to play someone

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Speaker 1: in the finals. I was Boston. But your team doesn't

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Speaker 1: know how to shoot a layup or they're allergic to it.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's quickly do an NFL thing before we

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Speaker 1: get to listener questions.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys made a move on George Pickens, wide receiver from Pittsburgh.

801
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 2: So Pickens is on a contract here, and we know

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Speaker 2: he's had some some character things in the past, whatever

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00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 2: you want to call them. Where do you think the

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00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 2: chances are the chances are this going wrong in Dallas?

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, I don't think it's necessarily going to go

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Speaker 1: wrong as much as I just don't think it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a wildly impactful I think that I think Pickens

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00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: is a fine player. I think he's a little overrated

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00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: because his highlights are so great, and I think you'd

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00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: be insane to pay him early, and so I would

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Speaker 1: think he's gonna be pissed that he's not gonna get

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Speaker 1: paid early. And if you don't pay him early, you

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Speaker 1: traded a third round pick for a rental, which, also,

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Speaker 1: given where Dallas is, that seems odd like it's just

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Speaker 1: not a move I would make. Like I think there

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Speaker 1: are certain guys that are just not really winning or quality,

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Speaker 1: like the juice is not worth the squeeze. I think

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Speaker 1: he's one of them, and I think that he obviously

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Speaker 1: has this massive talent, but he fell in the draft

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Speaker 1: because he's such a pain in the ass. Pittsburgh was

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Speaker 1: shopping him a year into his career because he's a

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Speaker 1: pain in the ass, and he was only worth a

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Speaker 1: third round pick because he's a pain in the ass.

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Speaker 1: And so you add to all that that, I know

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Speaker 1: people will be like, oh, now he's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: getting doubled like he was in Pittsburgh. Man. Some wide

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Speaker 1: receivers like being the number two option because they see

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Speaker 1: softer coverages. Some wide receivers are like, I just want

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Speaker 1: ten targets a game, and so all of that, all

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Speaker 1: of that concerns me in a significant way. All Right,

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Speaker 1: A reminder, do you guys like rate? Subscribe, review on YouTube, iTunes, Spotify,

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Speaker 1: everywhere to get to some of the Tuesday questions before

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Speaker 1: we get to today's. My big crow is listening from Croatia.

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Speaker 1: It's very kind of you, man, And by the way,

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Speaker 1: that's on my list. My pal Zach Lowe goes there

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Speaker 1: every summer, I think because his wife is from there,

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Speaker 1: I've heard nothing but amazing things, and I really want

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Speaker 1: to check it out. All right, go to Curtis's question

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Speaker 1: Demons from Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: If you had to start one bench one and cut

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Speaker 2: one of these three players, what would be your order? Joker, Luca,

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Speaker 2: and Yannis.

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00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: Well that's a kind of unfair. Listen. You guys know

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Speaker 1: how much I love Luca and how great I think

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Speaker 1: he is. But of the you picked the two guys

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Speaker 1: in the league better than him, So I mean the

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Speaker 1: answer has to be you start Joker, you bench, be honest,

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Speaker 1: and you cut Luca. But if you did a start

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Speaker 1: bench cut with literally any other group of players and Luca,

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Speaker 1: Luca would be my starter. But if you're the third

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Speaker 1: best and three best players in the league and he's third,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, that's what the answer is.

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Speaker 2: Bronson, Bronson that level yet, go ahead, But Danny says

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Speaker 2: it feels like the search for the face of the

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Speaker 2: league has become irrelevant. Do you think we should stop

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Speaker 2: trying to force the issue and just enjoy the game?

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't think any I mean, I don't mind

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Speaker 1: the conversation. I don't think there's any real forcing of

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Speaker 1: the issue, and it doesn't prevent me from enjoying the game.

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Speaker 1: So that's not a problem, all right.

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Speaker 2: Next one, negative four and two if the Nuggets make

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Speaker 2: it to the conference finals, when Nicola Yo could secure

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Speaker 2: the head coaching job and didn't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, he is doing a nice little player

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Speaker 1: coach job, which I've enjoyed watching.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to today's all right, So Eu a thunder

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Speaker 2: here says about Boston chucking threes is the lazy way

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Speaker 2: of playing the game. Hopefully this will send ripples through

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Speaker 2: the league and resent this ugly.

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Speaker 1: Tree said this. Listen, I I don't enjoy watching it

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Speaker 1: as much as I enjoy different kind of diverse styles

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Speaker 1: of play, So that that is my hope to a

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Speaker 1: degree that this at least stems the tide a bit.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Ryan.

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Speaker 2: Can you remember a more surprising conference finals than the

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Speaker 2: potential Nicks versus Pacers series.

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Speaker 1: It's very, very rare that both teams are a surprise.

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Speaker 1: It was a surprise last year the Pacers made it,

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Speaker 1: you know a few years ago. It was to me

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Speaker 1: a real big surprise when uh, the Blazers made it.

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Speaker 1: I think some would argue last year's Western Conference Finals

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Speaker 1: Dallas Minnesota was shocking. But I had picked Dallas from

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Speaker 1: the beginning, so that didn't shock me, but I think

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Speaker 1: it probably did shock the world to a degree. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's go to Adrian.

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Speaker 2: Adrian, are we gonna Are we gonna talk about how

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Speaker 2: Yo Kich really has been very turnover prone and lacking

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Speaker 2: his usual efficiency for the last four to five games.

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Speaker 1: Now, Okay, so listen, I think that is a slight overstatement.

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Speaker 1: So if you just go to Joker's game log, he

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Speaker 1: had the one game what game was it? It was

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Speaker 1: game like ten. He had seven in one of either

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Speaker 1: game two or three against the Clippers, And I said, listen, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was Game two against the Clippers. He had seven turnovers,

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Speaker 1: only it was eight of sixteen from the field. So

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Speaker 1: what I think he's talking about is this Game five

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Speaker 1: against the Clippers, he was four of thirteen, but they

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Speaker 1: won in a blowout. Game seven against the Clippers he

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Speaker 1: was six to fourteen, but with five turnovers that they

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Speaker 1: won in a blowout. It is true that what's you

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Speaker 1: gonna call that? Zubos has given Joker trouble. Now the

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Speaker 1: these two games in this series, he has seven and

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Speaker 1: six turnovers. Yesterday and he had six fouls and he

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Speaker 1: never got into the game and the refs seemed to

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Speaker 1: be bothering him yesterday. Obviously, Joker didn't play well. No

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Speaker 1: one on the team played well. I didn't focus on

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Speaker 1: the seven turnovers in game one because he did that

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Speaker 1: along with forty two, twenty two and six in beating

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Speaker 1: the one seed, So so listen, he five plus turnovers

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Speaker 1: obviously too many, But I think his efficiency will be

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Speaker 1: higher this series than it was last series, when he

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Speaker 1: was exactly at fifty percent from the field still forty

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Speaker 1: five percent from three, because I don't think hartensteiner Chet

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Speaker 1: can give him the same problems Zubats can. All right,

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Speaker 1: I gotta run. Great job, Demond's a great job. Blewe duck,

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Speaker 1: great job volume. I'll see you guys on the TV

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Speaker 1: show at three and then I'm actually also doing Collins

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Speaker 1: Pod later tonight, So busy day for me. See you

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Speaker 1: guys there. We'll train