1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys This He's Talking 3 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: Cowboys Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World Dhours at 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco. Elliot's Got Tay and now your 5 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips and Kyle Yeoman's. 6 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: It is a Talking Cowboys Tuesday here from the s 7 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: WBC studios at the Star in Frisco. Welcome in everybody, 8 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: as we welcome you back into an off season. Addition, 9 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: we are post draft, we are previewing rookie mini camp, 10 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: and of course the off season rolling along here from 11 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: Frisco as well. Fantastic. How do you feel? I feel good, man. 12 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: You know what they had Mother's Day weekend, so I 13 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: guess we should be be respectful, Yes we should. How 14 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: is Mother's Day for you guys? Did you guys do 15 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: anything special for your mothers, your wives? First time having 16 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: my mom and my and my wife in the same 17 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: city at the same time for my Mother's Day. Oh 18 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: that's fun. It's dope. It was dope. It worked. So 19 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: you went over in the ball Oh no, it just normal, 20 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: you say, your mom did brunch. Okay, brunch was fired 21 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: and then took him to the mall. Yeah, we did brunch, 22 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: took them to the mall, grabbed them both something, and 23 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: then we went to Grandscape, got some ice cream. Humble. 24 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: That's the humble brag, right there. I love you talking 25 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: about I didn't do much, Louis. We were no sir, Bob. 26 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: You know me. Hey, by one o'clock, we was done. 27 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: Way to do it, dude. By one o'clock we was 28 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: at a am. That's crazy. See that he was feeding 29 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: them amos se brunch. That's why you were done by one. 30 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: But about what you put down. We're postponing till this weekend. 31 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: I'll postponing into this weekend. Yeah, the kiddo has been 32 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: a little sick, so we're gonna we're gonna make up 33 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: for it. Nice. Yeah, so we had a chill we 34 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: had We had literally a very chill Mother's Day. But 35 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: you gotta do something right. We can't just say, oh yeah, 36 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: we'll just do it next week. That doesn't work. Yeah, 37 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: I technically postponed mine as well. I'm taking my mom 38 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: to a Rangers game on Monday, so nice. It'll be 39 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: a mother's son who they play thing? Uh the Angels, 40 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim to come to town. I'll 41 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: go with you. I like them. Half those guys were 42 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: on my minor league teams out there. So yeah, whenever 43 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: the Mariner's going to tell you, yeah, we'll go, we'll go. 44 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: I've got a Mariner's hat. Everybody's taking care of Mother's Day. 45 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: You're gonna take your mom told you, yeah, what did you? 46 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: God guess well. I was in dripping sprinks calling lacrosse 47 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: well timed drops, waiting on it. He was hovering. Yeah, 48 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: not the Mario coint you know, didn't get to it. 49 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: I was calling the state lacrosse, the THHS LLL state, 50 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: that's what's up, tournament. So I'm making up for Mother's 51 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:19,399 Speaker 1: Day all week, so not just next weekend, a week 52 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 1: a week. She didn't tell me you took her to 53 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: her favorite restaurant early on the week. I did, so 54 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: I had to get the party started right after. I 55 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: knew what I was gonna do. But you had a birthday. 56 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: I did, and and a bachelor party. Wait a minute 57 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: in New Orleans, pointed so he popping on the handstand, 58 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: humping your back and lift your rump. Oh my going 59 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: on a lot of a lot of Todd Anthony Shaw 60 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: being played? Sure, yeah, yeah, do you know who taught 61 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: Anthony Shaw? I don't actually he popping on a handstand. 62 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: You know what they mean? Good? No, you don't know 63 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: who young noah vibes that I got this weekend. I'm 64 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: really disappointed that you don't know who Todd Anthony shafter 65 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: maybe if I heard it, maybe so I know people here. No, well, 66 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,679 Speaker 1: let me just say it like this. Uh. Todd Anthony 67 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: Shaw is an American born rapper from East Oakland who 68 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: goes by the moniker too Short. We will be playing 69 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: a lot of him during your bachelor party, Kyle. Yes, 70 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: well I didn't know that. I didn't know that was 71 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: too short. But that's my I had no idea. No, 72 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: that's my wheelhouse man early early nineties, but I didn't 73 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: know his realm. This makes me feel better because, well, 74 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: you didn't know who too Short is? Period? I know who, 75 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: I don't know who, whatever the name was, You don't 76 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: do it. I thought it early. I'm still trim that 77 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: you went to the BT uncut. I don't understand you 78 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: come on eleven o'clock. It was a it was a 79 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: fun weekend. And we have already seen that this is 80 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: spilling over in five minutes five minutes into the show, 81 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: and we have not talked a lick of Cowboys soft 82 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: season at its best this weekend. By the way, Yeah, 83 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: Kentucky Derby, Tom Brady is going to be a football 84 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: analyst after he retires. That's why I want to see 85 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: that bag. Jeezus, Miami ron Prix Formula one was big. 86 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: The fact that they secured that already. You know the 87 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: bag is dumb. Well, they had to do something after Troy, Yeah, bulls. 88 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: They elevated. Yeah, they upgraded for sure. Sorry, Daryl. Darryl 89 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: moose Johnston was kind of right man, and he's great. 90 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,679 Speaker 1: He is. You know, Tommy got Brady is a different 91 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: aging will Darryl moose Johnson, he doesn't age. He doesn't. 92 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what he's doing, but it looks good 93 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: on him. Him and for real, doing a great job. 94 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: We need to get it, my boy. Kevin burkehart On, 95 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: I would love that action. You know, someone on this 96 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: show interviewed Kevin Brooke Harton excuse me on this website? 97 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: All right, what dial it up? Yeah? Get him one. Yeah, 98 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: let's make it. Let's make it happen. I would love that. 99 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: Uh Rob. News and notes for the Cowboys have been 100 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: pretty dry recently. I mean it's a quiet time around 101 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: the Star, but we do have rookie Minicamp coming up 102 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: this weekend. Anything stick out to you over the last week. 103 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: We are waiting till Thursday, when the rookies arrive. I 104 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: think it's well, it's nine draft picks, it is. I 105 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: think twenty ish rookie free agents, handful of veteran guys, 106 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: like first year eligible guys who will take part, a 107 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: couple tryout guys. They'll come in Thursday, they'll get their 108 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: physicals done, everything checks out, they'll sign their contracts, get 109 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: their equipment, and then we'll have some football on the 110 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: field Friday and Saturday Football Americano. So it starts Thursday, 111 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: but no like on field stuff really Thursday, right, No, No, Thursday, 112 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: just come in check again, get everything rolling, physicals. That's 113 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: why the deals are not signed yet because guys that's 114 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: all got to check out. So they'll take care of that. 115 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: And it used to be Zaya tell me if I'm wrong, 116 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: but I want to say you came in and up 117 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: until a few years ago. It was the week after 118 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: the draft. Guys would come in for the rookie camp. Man, 119 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: I don't mother's weekend, and it just was a combination 120 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: of like, I remember it was hot. I remember that. See. Yeah, 121 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: it was two practices I think a day, and you 122 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: know there's been situations where guys have puked called earl. 123 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: I was on a bike, man, I was still injured. Yeah, 124 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: I was still on rehab protocol. So they threw me 125 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: on a bike in the Devil's playground out there, and 126 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: uh yeah it was hot man. They Valley Ranch. Jason 127 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: Garrett finally scrapped Hot Brot. Yeah, bro I was. I'm 128 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: telling I went from Seattle, which was like like upper 129 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: forties yea, to all of a sudden came down here 130 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: and it was been in mid nineties, and I just 131 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: saw Jesus on that bike. I was on a bike 132 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: all day. And that's that's the thing, Like there's guys 133 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: that come from different climates and you haven't you're not 134 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: in football shape, you've been auditioning for the draft. It's 135 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: not the same. It's nowhere near the same. And then 136 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: get thrown into two days and finally Garrett was like scrapped. 137 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: This is that literally, you're welcome to welcome to the 138 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: NFL moment as a rookie or as it m at 139 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: camp OTAs no not mine mines. Was against my first 140 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: practice in camp, coming off of injury and all that jazz, 141 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: not having gone through Ricky stuff, because I was hurt 142 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: stepping on the field and my We were practicing against 143 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: Denmer Broncos. And my first rep of one on ones 144 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: we were doing one on ones was against some dude 145 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: named Champ Bailey. Oh yeah, that I ran the only 146 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: route that I knew how to run because I had 147 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: never played receiver straight, go straight and fast, seaball, catch ball, 148 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: walked other directions, don't make eye contact. So how did 149 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: that go for you? I did it, and I caught it, 150 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: and I walked the other direction. I didn't make eye contact. 151 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: I did not want to run it back. So I 152 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: won that one. That's not your welcome to the rookie, 153 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: he was the NFL. When you win, idn't even know almost. 154 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: It's like when Kyle humbled, didn't Kyle no, no, no, listen. 155 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: I was already humbled. I was already humbled. I was 156 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: humbled because I came in injured playing a position I 157 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: never played before. So I was humbled already. On the 158 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 1: receiving room that had they had THO, Yeah, yeah, it 159 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: had some dudes in there, right, t O, TG we 160 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: had some guys, We had some ghosts and PC. So 161 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 1: I step on the field, I don't even know what 162 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: the heck I'm wearing. I'm wearing all the pads. So 163 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: these guys are clowning me because I'm wearing all the 164 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: thigh pads, all the knee pads. You know, receivers don't 165 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: wear decisions. Dude, I'm out there and TiO and those 166 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: guys are like, what the heck is that? So they're 167 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: clown to me. I don't know how to stand that 168 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: in a receiver position. I don't think people understand how 169 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: raw raw I remember that coming straight out the ocean. 170 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: They just remember that coming up in the locker room 171 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,599 Speaker 1: around that was that was you know, part of the 172 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: that was my wokan. So anyway, they they they used 173 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: to do this the week after. Now it gives a 174 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: chance for guys number one to just get their affars 175 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: in order. Everything settled after the draft, and they come 176 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: right in and jump into the offseason program and it's 177 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: we'll get into we can get into what the camp's 178 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,599 Speaker 1: gonna look like, but it's getting guys ready for OTAs 179 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: when the vets. You know, it's not gonna be super strenuous. Yeah, 180 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: and we've kind of seen that over the last couple 181 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: of off seasons from the virtual standpoint of twenty twenty 182 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: into twenty twenty one where it was one of those 183 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: times and we had talked about it on this show 184 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: many times in the past that it's it's lighter from 185 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: a from an off season standpoint, when you get to 186 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: trading camp, you still hit the ground running, you still 187 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: have your practices, but from an off season standpoint, it's 188 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: a lot of install it's a lot of getting up 189 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: to speed, getting ready for OTAs and building of course 190 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: to Oxnard in late July. But how much can you 191 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: get out of a camp like this, Isaiah, from a 192 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: players standpoint, from a coaching standpoint, how much can you 193 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: really see and really learn from a rookie mini camp 194 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: when you finally do get to see your your guys 195 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: for the first time. But also it's still very limited. Yeah, 196 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: I believe from a coach's perspective, they just want they 197 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: want to affirm what they've seen on film. They want 198 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: to make sure that their selection or you know, whether 199 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: if they're your draft pick or if you're a free agent. 200 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: You know what they everybody has film. They want to 201 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: affirm that what they saw is true, and they want 202 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: to they want to just see glimpses of it. Oh yeah, okay, cool, 203 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: we made the right decision. From the players standpoint, you 204 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: want to go out there and compete. The coaches are 205 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: going to test you in terms of your your ability 206 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: to be able to absorb information. They're gonna throw a 207 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: lot at you. Really if it's gonna be very simple, 208 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: but maybe not so simple depending on the program that 209 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: you're coming from, and they're gonna want to try to overwhelm. 210 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: You'll see exactly how you handle it. You're in a 211 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: new environment. You're out there trying to compete every play 212 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: because you think that every play is going to be 213 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: the thing that gets you cut. And then then they're 214 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: gonna throw a whole bunch on you mentally and see 215 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: what can you can handle. And then physically physically you're 216 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: gonna be taxed because to rob your rock Pea's point, 217 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: you have been literally training to do tests You've been 218 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: training to push as much weight as you can as 219 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: many times you can. You've been trained to run forty 220 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: yards and stop. You've been trained to jump as high 221 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: as you can. You have I've been training to play 222 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: football because the unfortunately what this NFL has turned into, 223 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: at least as combine, is how how well you can 224 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: do something. That's how that's how much money you're gonna 225 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 1: make coming out of college. If you if you're you 226 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 1: might have been a fourth round guy. You go out 227 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: there and run of four two, guess what you are 228 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: now you're a first round guy or a start of 229 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: the top of a second just because you're just because 230 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: you worked so hard on that one aspect. And so 231 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: that's what guys are training for. They're putting a lot 232 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: of emphasis, a lot of weight on that because that's 233 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: what their agents are paying for them to go do. 234 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: Train for the combine, not trained for the league. So heck, 235 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: when you're watching these practices later in the week, are 236 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: you looking for the side the sides? Are you looking 237 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: for the reading ability the first step? Is it that 238 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: kind of stuff it's all football related or does the 239 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: athletics sism kind of play into that? I mean, We 240 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: saw it last year with Michael Parsons during Mini camp 241 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: where it kind of clicked and said, oh, this guy 242 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: can do a little bit more than just playoff ball linebacker. 243 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: You know, Kyle, I really don't for me not being 244 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: able to hear the teaching install portion of it, because 245 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: I realized that's the biggest portion for the for the 246 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: coaches is breaking down the terminology that you were just 247 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: talking about getting guys acclam made it to the NFL 248 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: as far as the knowledge that it's going to take 249 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: to be able to play the position, but you know, 250 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: trying to get guys to unlearn some of that bad habits. 251 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: I don't think you get that until you get a 252 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,599 Speaker 1: guy in full pads that you start to understand what 253 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: he can and can't do. Chris Beam calls it the 254 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: underwear Olympics Olympics in in the OTA period, and I 255 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: agree because now isn't you know it's just all about 256 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: getting these guys mentally ready for what's going to be 257 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: in front of them. But the excitement has to be 258 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: there for once you know you're in full full gear 259 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: and you get an opportunity to see how these guys 260 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: operate because obviously they're going to come in and have 261 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: to unlearn some bad habits from college. I think there's 262 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: a couple couple examples to your point, Like I go 263 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: back to twenty eighteen jahad Ward. Do you guys remember him. Yeah, 264 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: he comes in. He's a free agent that they signed 265 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: from Oakland and Rod Marinelli type interior pass rusher or 266 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: even edge guy up the field. You know, that's what 267 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: they were looking for. He shined in these OTAs in 268 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: mini camp. He was great, and Rod even warned us afterwards. 269 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: He was like, look, let's get let's get the Oxnard, 270 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: let's get the pads on. See what happens. He didn't 271 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 1: make the team. And I'm not ripping anybody, but I'm 272 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: just saying that to your point, Like, it's hard to tell, 273 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: especially like I'm looking forward to seeing what John Ridgeway 274 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: can bring, like the interior fifth round draft pick defensive tackle. 275 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: They talked him up after the draft, trying to get 276 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: bigger inside stop the run. It's gonna be hard to 277 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: tell until training camps, especially for the big lineman. Like 278 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: I think you can see how guys move around, especially 279 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: if the skill positions or something like this. DB's for 280 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: sure and the Sean writes another example, like he really 281 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: stood out last year and we were like damn yeah 282 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: with the behind the hands and we're like, damn, okay, 283 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: late third round picker, but I was gonna be a 284 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: seventh round pick. This guy could he start? Like we 285 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: kind of wed, we jumped the gun a little bit 286 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: on that, but it turned out like yeah, I mean 287 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: he I looked it up. He had ninety one snaps 288 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: out of eleven fifty something like that defensive defensive snaps 289 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: last year. That being said, he still could turn into 290 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: a nice player and and uh, but again it's you 291 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: can get a little excited um for this first camp 292 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: just because it's football's back. Man, it is back. And 293 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: I remember even seeing like Nason right running backwards, back 294 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: pedaling and then like knocking down a pass on a 295 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: receiver in the back half zone and it's like, oh 296 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: my gosh, like maybe maybe they knew something. And then 297 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: of course they didn't necessarily turn into anything. And you're one. 298 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: But from a from a coaching standpoint, you look at 299 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: this camp and you you look at the way that 300 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: you install these practices. Rob when you're installing this early on, 301 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: Isaiah pointed to it earlier. Are you you throwing everything 302 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: at these rookies. Are you kind of taking it one 303 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: step at a time, one bite at a time, so 304 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: that way they're they're comfortable, but you don't want them 305 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: to be too comfortable. Yeah, I mean, I think I 306 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: think the rookie camp's more of a baseline and some 307 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: of it's some of it's not just on the field teaching, 308 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: like Heck mentioned that, it's also hey, this is how 309 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: we do this is how our schedule works day to day. 310 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: This is the weight room, this is how we're going 311 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: to operate in meetings. Just kind of getting guys their 312 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,239 Speaker 1: feet underneath them. And then once you get to OTAs 313 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: and the Veteran Camp, it's where a lot of the 314 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: installation is to where when you get to get to Oxyard, 315 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: a lot of it's just review. They're not putting in 316 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: a lot of new stuff, but you're trying to get 317 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: these guys just kind of just it's an orientation more 318 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: than anything. And they did a little competitive stuff last year. 319 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: OTAs is as a Ricky though OTA's is almost a breather. 320 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: It's almost a breath of fresh air because Ricky minicamp. 321 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: There's nobody else to sub in and out like it's thin. Right, 322 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: So not only do you have the stress of new 323 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: environment and the classroom and film and install and now 324 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: you're going out there and now you're trying to compete 325 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: as hard as you can because you're trying to put 326 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: your best foot forward. Dog it's hot, all right, we're 327 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: talking about upper nineties. Human, you know, human is all 328 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: get out feeling like a sign outside and then you're 329 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: there's nobody When you look over to the sign, there's 330 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: nobody there. So your text and guess what, Now the 331 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: coaches are really gonna see who they have, because when 332 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: there's nobody the sub and and out for you, when 333 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: you're gassed and you still gotta put your best foot forward, 334 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: you find out real quicken on hurry who you have, 335 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: you know, And we saw it last year, even when 336 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: Mike and Michael was dying, that boy was almost army 337 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: crawling about here, right, he was almost army crawling, and 338 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: he just happened to be one of the best players 339 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: in dogging on league, you know, months later. So it 340 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: is challenging. It doesn't matter who you are, a first 341 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: round pick or if you're a free agent. This is 342 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: an unusual heatwave we've got in North Texas right now. Friday. 343 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna do Sunday. I don't 344 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: know what the Sunday schedule looks like. But they're going 345 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: to practice Friday and Saturday. HI have ninety three Friday, 346 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: HI have ninety one on Saturday. I got a break 347 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: and heavy in the path. They've gotten rid of the 348 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: team periods though. I think they just do like because 349 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: they're not enough people something. Yeah. Yeah, Now, speaking of 350 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: that of not having enough people, you look at the 351 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: draft class and you look at the undrafted free agents, 352 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,239 Speaker 1: and there's a common theme between the two of them. 353 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: There's no quarterbacks on either one of those lists. And 354 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: it was reported earlier this morning that they'll have a 355 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: couple of cowboy or couple quarterbacks come in to rookie 356 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 1: Minicamp to on a tryout basis, one of which Nick Starkle, 357 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: who is from Argyle. He was here at Dallas Day, 358 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: went to Argyle Liberty Christian played his high school football there. 359 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: It's now the school where Jason Witten's a head CoA 360 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: chat by the way. Then he went to Texas A 361 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: and m never really found any playing time there. Went 362 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: to San Jose State and then really set the world 363 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: on fire at San Jose State. The other quarterback is 364 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: Terry Wilson. He started his career at New Mexico, then 365 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: transferred or excuse me, at Kentucky, then transferred to New Mexico, 366 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: and he was kind of pitter pattering down the stretch 367 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: with the lobos there, but the couple quarterbacks coming in 368 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: to throw around. But that brings me to my question 369 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,479 Speaker 1: because I know, for me personally, I want to look 370 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: at some of these wide receivers that the Cowboys added 371 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: on the backcat of the depth chart. And we have 372 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: talked about this as well on the show of how 373 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: thin the wide receiver room is without Cedric Wilson, of 374 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: course without Amari Cooper at the top. You added Jalen 375 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: Tolbert in the middle of your draft class, and you 376 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: added James Washington in the free agent class, but really 377 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: you still feel thin from a wide receiver standpoint. They 378 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: bring in four different wide receivers from an undrafted free 379 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,239 Speaker 1: agent standpoint. Ontario Drummond, wide receiver from Old miss who 380 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: they met with at the combine, Jakari Robinson who was very, 381 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: very productive for Wake Forest in twenty twenty. Same can 382 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: be said for ty Frey Folger fry Fogel, who was 383 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: the Big ten wide receiver of the Year for Indiana 384 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, and then Dennis Houston from Western Illinois. 385 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: Four wide receivers that I want to see more of, 386 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: along with Jalen Tolbert added into the mix there as 387 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: well from rookie Minicamp. But heckma is wide receiver a 388 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: position where you're gonna have your eyes glued on and 389 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: if there's another one, what would it be? You know, 390 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: they talked at LINT about not being done in free agency, 391 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: and so that's obviously a place where you're gonna have 392 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: to look because you are so thin. But players like 393 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: Jayleen Tilbert and him everything that he comes in with, 394 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: the moxie machigues moo and his I like that. What 395 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: was that? Moxie moxie macheesmo. Yeah, what is that from? 396 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: That's from? That's just as I like that. I like that. 397 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: It just kind of threw me off for a second. 398 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: I had to circle back to it. Cheesemo Cheesemo. I 399 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: like it. You can watch w W none of that 400 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: Razor Cheesemo Cheesemozcheesmo. I like it so. But but my 401 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: point is, like Tolbert is, even though he's, you know, 402 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: cocky guy, he's coming from the FBS, you know levels, 403 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: he still is confident in his ability. And I just 404 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, there's gonna so much riding for 405 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: him and guys like can't the kid from Indiana who 406 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: went on dry Fogel. You know, this opportunity for those 407 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: undrafted guys to try and break into that wide receiver room. 408 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: So excited about that, but really even thinking a forward 409 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: thinking for the wide receiver group that they got to 410 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: add some more names. But when you talk about the 411 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: other groups that we have, linebacker, they have to they 412 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: have they have to be thinking of adding a veteran 413 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: linebacker because right now, that's probably the thinnest room you have. 414 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: And I just don't see them being asleep at the 415 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: wheel at that position the way that we've seen it 416 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: with the offensive line. We've seen it in other areas. 417 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: But you've got to you've got to try and figure 418 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: out a way to shore up the linebacker room. You agree, Isam, 419 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm definitely at the linebacker position. Receiver, I think they're 420 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: gonna pull off a bet, there's a there's a there's 421 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: enough savvy vets that are out there in a free 422 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: agent market right now, whether healthy or getting healthy. I 423 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: think that they're going to be plenty of opportunities to 424 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 1: grab one of those guys, and somebody want to come 425 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: add to that room. I think they still need a 426 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: veteran presence in that room. There's I personally don't believe 427 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,959 Speaker 1: that you can go into this season with CD as 428 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: your leader. There's no disrespect to him. I just think 429 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: that they need they need somebody else that's a little 430 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: bit more seasoned. Where do you put CD man? I 431 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: mean as far as the list of like, it's all 432 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: comparisonbody nowlysis, is he one of those guys that you 433 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 1: even put in the first tier group of wide receivers 434 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: in this league? Not me? What does he have to 435 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: do to break that sailing? As you know, more consistent? Yeah, 436 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: be more consistent, I think. I mean, obviously, he's an 437 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: exceptional talent, fast, can catch, make big plays. You know, 438 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: once he's on a hot street, he's on a hot street, 439 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: like you can't really stop him. But it's just an inconsistency. 440 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of drop balls. He's not 441 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: the only one at fault for that deck was pretty 442 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: inconsistent in terms of his passing as well. So, you know, 443 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: a combination of those two getting together and figuring things 444 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: out this offseason, I think he can make huge strides. 445 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: I just still think that there always is a every 446 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: in every room. There needs to be a veteran that, 447 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: even if that veterans not starting, there needs to be 448 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: a guy that everybody can when things are down and 449 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: things everybody's fresh at that you can still look to 450 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: it that dude. It could be like, hey, chill out, 451 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: young Wood, Like you know what I'm saying, Like this 452 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: is always just how it needs to go. I think 453 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: I know the answer to this question before I ask it, 454 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: but I still want to put it out there. You 455 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: don't consider Michael Gallup and James Robinson to be veterans 456 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: in that room? Jahington Washington, Yeah, I don't know enough 457 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: about James Washington as a as a player, you know, 458 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: in the locker room, and to speak on that. I 459 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: do think that Michael Gallup has has the capability of 460 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: being that guy in the room. Unfortunately, when you're coming 461 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: off of injury, people look at you sideways. That's just 462 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: the reality. So it's hard unless you're unless you're a 463 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: guy who's just been around the league for a minute, 464 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: you're not going to be that dude sitting there with 465 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: a knee brace on, or a guy that's really having 466 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: with britt Brown, you know, for most of the day 467 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: and didn't be able to step in that meeting room 468 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: and be that dude he's just with it coming the 469 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: way that it did on a touchdown grab and a big, high, 470 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: high visible game. I mean in the ACL tear being 471 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: visible from the beginning. And I'm not saying that it's 472 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: not a possibility. I'm just saying what the tendency is 473 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: that people if it doesn't matter unless you're just a 474 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: high arching player, if you're injured, you're you're the guy 475 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: over there, and it sucks. I've been that guy over 476 00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: there a lot, you know. But that's really what it is. 477 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: And I've seen that with veterans. I've seen that with 478 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: you know, rookies. It's just you have to work your 479 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: way back into it. Now. Once he's healthy, of course, 480 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: he can step right back into that mold. But when 481 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: is he going to be healthy? It's the question. So 482 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: as long as as long as CD, as long as 483 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: as long as I'm Gallup is injured, I think CD 484 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: is the guy that everybody's going to be looking to, 485 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: and I'm not sure that he's ready for that responsibility. 486 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: I think that he's fully capable of taking care of 487 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: himself right now, but I think he's still figuring out himself. 488 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: It is hard to be a leader and figure yourself 489 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: out simultaneously. Does that make sense, Yeah, yeah, so I 490 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: think that's where he's at right now. I could be 491 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: completely wrong, but just visually what I see, I think 492 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: he's still trying to figure out who Cede Lamb is 493 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: in this NFL. I think the expectation is for him 494 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: to take that next step, and not only on the 495 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: field production, but exactly the way that you're talking about it. 496 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: He has to step up as a leader. He has 497 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: to step up as somebody that that room can turn to, 498 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: and having another veteran in the in the mix would 499 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: would help with that. I definitely think that. But it 500 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: also reminds me of the running back position over the 501 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: last couple of years too, with all these undrafted running backs. 502 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: You look at it like a Rico dowdle a Shay 503 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: wa Alana Lua, who was released this past weekend. Guys 504 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: like that who have made impacts from an undrafted standpoint, 505 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: just because there hasn't been a whole lot of running 506 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: back depth outside of the Zekes and the Tony Pollards 507 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: that I feel like that kind of looks That's what 508 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: the wide receiver room looks like right now, with four 509 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: undrafted free agents and then a couple guys that you've 510 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: added throughout as well. I think there's space for that. 511 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: Like I mean, han, I'm just saying that there's an 512 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: opportunity there. I mean, if they go out of a 513 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: veteran wide receiver, then no, I don't think so. I'm 514 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: not even sure they're going to do that. I mean 515 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: I know that that was a whisper that they tried 516 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: to do that before the draft. And you're right, like 517 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: Gallup could miss multiple games in September, it's very it's possible. Yeah, 518 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: And to your point, like the elder statesman on in 519 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: this group is Noah Brown. This is his six year Yeah, 520 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: he's twenty six years old. Michael Gallops twenty six, CD's 521 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: twenty three. It's a it's a young group, but that's 522 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: that's what they factored in when they made this decision 523 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: with the Maris that we're gonna be young and guys 524 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: are gonna have to to elevate, and some guys on 525 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: the back end that I think have a chance to compete. 526 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: We've talked about SIMI uh, you mentioned the undrafted guys, 527 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: but there are the veteran guys that are gonna come in. 528 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: They were eligible to participate in this rookie camp. TJ. 529 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: Vasher's in that group out last year with the knee injury. 530 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: Brandon Smith was a guy. He was on the practice 531 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: squad last year and they big wide receiver. I think 532 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: they sounded like they kind of looked at him like 533 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: maybe future Noah Brown type guy who can develop and 534 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: also help us on special teams. So just some other 535 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: guys to watch. But you're right, they are young, and 536 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: it's you know, Jalen Tilbert. It's a third round draft pick, 537 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: but you're sure looking at him right now like he's 538 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: gonna have to step in and start because we're talking 539 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: about I mean, they play eleven personnel two thirds of 540 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: the time. He's a starter, you know, gotta be. And 541 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: they look at him as his second round guy too. 542 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: They don't look at guy. They look at him as 543 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: a second round pick that they just basically went a 544 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: different direction and then got lucky that he was there 545 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: in the third either way. So yeah, I think starting, 546 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: starting is the expectation for Jalen Tober. We'll continue answering 547 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: some of these questions on the other side of the break. 548 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: Give us a call. We're going to take your calls. 549 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: You're on talking Cowboys. 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And as always, we gotta talk to our 593 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: friends about youth camps. How about this registration open for 594 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Youth Academy camps presented by Invisiligne. Don't miss 595 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: the chance to learn from former Dallas cow Boys players 596 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: and current Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders. Visit Dallas Cowboys dot com 597 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: Slash Academy to learn more and secure your spot today. 598 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: Those are wonderful camps, by the way, my children were 599 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: last year. Danny mccraie runs it upstairs. Awesome camp. Nice 600 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: awesome camp. I've heard that even every year it gets 601 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: better but I mean, they do a really good job 602 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: of it every single year. And of course I don't 603 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: have any children to send to it, but I've heard 604 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: just through the grape vine then it gets better every year. 605 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: So I say a standback and to make up an 606 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: appearance out at youth camp this year. I have not 607 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: been reached out too, but I might have to do so, 608 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: maybe able to get the get they get the ball 609 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: moving on that one. All right, So it's been a 610 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: while since we've talked to Cowboys Nation. Let's talk about 611 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: some Cowboys questions from our friends out there. I'm gonna 612 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: take the first one off of Twitter. How do all 613 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: of our interior offensive linemen compare in size? And which 614 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: ones could help the Cowboys to return to the run 615 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: first offense. So some of the new guys that they're 616 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: gonna put inside, along with Tyler Biottish, along with Connor McGovern, 617 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: how do they all compare and who is going to 618 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: help the Cowboys establish that run game again and try 619 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: and balance this offense out a little bit more. I mean, 620 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: size wise, Tyler Smith is huge. Hey, he's a big kid, 621 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: six five three twelve running to the left. Yeah, I 622 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: mean that's yeah, we're sized up there, man. Yeah, that's 623 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: the biggest reason why they drafted him, I think, plus 624 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: the tackle flexibility, which I don't think we're going to 625 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: see that anytime real soon unless something happens on the 626 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: left side with Tyran Smith. But that's the biggest reason 627 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: why he's here. You know, Tyler Biodish is not the 628 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: biggest center, so I think you're trying to I think 629 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: that was We've talked about it. That was an issue 630 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: in certain matchups when you have Connor Williams at left guard, 631 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: Tyler Biottish at center, and you're facing certain matchups that's 632 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: been a problem for them. So but if you look 633 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: at and PFF's not the be all end all, but 634 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: if you look at Tyrn Smith and Zach Martin's grads 635 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: when they were on the field last year, it's pretty good, 636 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: you know, and they're hoping and they're hoping Terence Steal 637 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: can take a step forward in that regard to So 638 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: looking at Tyler Smith six foot five, three twenty five, yeah, 639 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: three twenty five is his And then you look at 640 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: like Connor Williams, I mean he was what six five 641 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: three twenty or no, six five three fifteen, So He's 642 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: about ten pounds lighter than Tyler Smith and about the 643 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: same size. But you can look at the two I mean, 644 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: it was a it's a different build for those those guys. 645 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: Tyler Smith is is much more ready for the NFL, 646 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: I think than Connor Williams was at the point when 647 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: he entered the league, and you'll probably see that early on. 648 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: Do you expect him to start from the beginning at 649 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: left guard because Mike McCarthy didn't want to commit to that, 650 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: neither that Joe Philbin when we talked to him as well, 651 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: doesn't want to commit to it, but he committed to 652 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: the left side. Yeah, that's all we heard. Is he 653 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: the front runner or the expected starter at left guard? 654 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: Or we jump of the gun played X receiver, He's 655 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: gonna play a little tight end. I'm sorry, maybe Simmons, 656 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: maybe simonside linebacker, help out that deft play the left side. Well, 657 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: we know he's not playing a left tackle. You know 658 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: he's not playing a center. Yep. Well there's still yeah. 659 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: I think they are looking at him as the backup 660 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: left tackle though. That's the Yeah, he's a backup left tackle. 661 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: But there's an all Pro guys still sitting there. But 662 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: either way, the significance about him saying that was that 663 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,239 Speaker 1: he didn't want to commit to him saying, hey, our 664 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: first round pick is going to be a starter at 665 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: left goal. Well, they want him to come, come in, 666 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: compete and win the job. Over over, Connor McGovern, I 667 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: don't think they make I don't think they make that 668 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: pick unless they think he can. Why are you looking 669 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: at me like that. Name the last first round pick 670 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: that did not start? Please? I mean there's you have 671 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: to win the job. I mean I'm not I'm not 672 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: saying he won't, but I'm saying that that that's he 673 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: hasn't played guards since your year of heights, hear you. 674 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: So he's got to come in and win it. If 675 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: I could finish, I'm saying if he he he would 676 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: not have been the pick if they didn't think he 677 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: could step in. And so that's that's the expectation. But 678 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: left left tackle, no, I think what they're trying to 679 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: do is keep him on one side. If you remember 680 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: Terrence Steele trying to switch from right tackle the left 681 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: tackle in the middle of the season that didn't go 682 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 1: so well. Yeah, and you talk to guys about doing 683 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: that sometimes and it's like almost like changeing writing with 684 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: a different hand. So they just want to keep him 685 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 1: on one side, keep Josh Ball I think, at right 686 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: tackle and just see how it goes. But if he's 687 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: not the starting left guard, then that that's it's not 688 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: a bus but it's just that's you know, that's the 689 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 1: hope because you because you want your first round pick 690 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: step in and do something right away. Yeah, he will 691 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: be playing left guard. Everything that Rob Pete just said 692 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: is absolutely correct. Unfortunately, there's not a level playing field 693 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: when it comes to the NFL and who gets the 694 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: money and when you're drafted, the commitments and all that jazz. 695 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: He will be playing left guard. It's not a he's 696 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 1: gonna compete. He's gonna compete for it. But McGovern knows 697 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: if he sneezes wrong, he's there. He's yeah, Smith's in there. Yeah, 698 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: all right, let's take our first call. Maurice in Tacoma 699 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: up there and okay and action in the house. I 700 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: don't know if he went to Washington, Maurice, but welcome 701 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 1: to talking cowboy. I hope he's a you dope guy. 702 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: Guy you want to send its good with you man 703 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: already stinking down Tacktown. I hear you, yes, sir, yes, sir. 704 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: So my question is kind of more of a concern 705 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: he just couldn't get it down last season, and I 706 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,919 Speaker 1: seemly in a different direction. I wonder what you guys 707 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: think as far as your concerns with the kicking game 708 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 1: this year, we d better well. Thank you, very good question, Maurice. 709 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: And I think that it's a decent concern about really 710 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: anybody around Cowboys Nation right now because you have two 711 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: guys that were both undrafted free agents, both local wish 712 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: sort of kids. You've got Jonathan Garabay, rookie from Texas 713 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 1: deck who was who was good from a pat staydpoint 714 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: in college. Of course it's different in the NFL, but 715 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: he was also hit or miss from forty five plus 716 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 1: for the Red Raiders. And then you've got Chris is 717 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: it Nagar from SMU who. I mean, there's really not 718 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: a whole lot of a lot of scouting report on 719 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: that side. Do you expect maybe a veteran kicker to 720 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,760 Speaker 1: be in the conversation. The fact that it hasn't already 721 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: been is a bit shocking. Now, I think they're gonna 722 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: start with open competitions in the parking lot. They're gonna 723 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: find a kicker. It's gonna it's gonna happen. They're not 724 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: gonna go into the season unsure of where they are. 725 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: And I think Greg the leg for the last couple 726 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: of years benefited from his relationship with Fossil, but he 727 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 1: became a liability. It's at certain points I think you 728 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: all were like, man, if we get close up, do 729 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: we even trust him? And so for the guy like 730 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: Garabay that comes in, I saw of YouTube with him 731 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: kicking like a seventy yard sixty eight yard field goal, 732 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: But then what gives me the willies is not really 733 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: good with forty forty five in, we kind of need 734 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: you to be good from there. Yeah, that's kind of 735 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: where you need to be on What were your thoughts 736 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: on these teams that were drafting kickers in the fourth round. 737 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 1: Kade York is a good kicker. There's like two or 738 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: three of them that win. You shouldn't have been a 739 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: fourth round kicker. There was a kicker and then a 740 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: couple of punters that they it was they drafted, Yeah, 741 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: but it was I don't know. There may have been 742 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: another kicker in there, but I know Kaed York was 743 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,760 Speaker 1: the first one off the board, and that was expected. 744 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: Did it ever cross your money in the fourth No, 745 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 1: I'm talking about for Dallas in the fifth. Yes, yeah, 746 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: one of those four fifth round picks. Absolutely, it crossed 747 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: my mind. I would have clamored for it. Think everybody 748 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: was thinking that Cameron Dicker was going to be a kicker. 749 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 1: Apparently he Apparently he is not held in high regard 750 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 1: at a NFL. Apparently he wasn't very good toward the 751 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: end of his career as a kicker. He's a good punter. 752 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: His first team all big to a punter. He did 753 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 1: both for Texas last year. But early in his career 754 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 1: it was kind of like like a big name for 755 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: him that the media kind of hopped on, and I 756 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 1: guess late it fizz fizzled out a little bit, and 757 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: then they moved in the punter. Oh oh, what's going on? 758 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: And I said, proceed proceeding, move on. Dane Brugler had 759 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: him Garabay, Jonathan Garabay, who the Cowboys signed fourth among kickers, 760 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 1: and his beast guide so nice, and he was the 761 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 1: guy John Fossil liked. Supposedly that was the guy he wanted, 762 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: and bones gets who Bones. It was just about So 763 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: it's kind of kind of the common theme here is 764 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,919 Speaker 1: that Bones gets who he wants. We'll see they don't. 765 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they don't have a they don't 766 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: have a proven guy. So but Dan Bailey wasn't proven 767 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: when he came in either, so hopefully it'll work out 768 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 1: for him. A good point. It's a good point, all right, 769 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: Josh and Maryland this on the line. Josh, how's it 770 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: going on the East coast down there? Hey, can't complaint 771 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:11,439 Speaker 1: Fellers to funding getting warm out here? How y'all feeling good? Man? Fantastic? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 772 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: all right. So I got real quick questions basically based 773 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: around the linebackers that we got here because I was 774 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: pretty much satisfied with the draft. I think all the 775 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 1: Cowboys trans was because we got our knees. No real 776 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: star players or nothing like that. But you really ain't 777 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: like to pick a furtherest, and you wanted to get 778 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 1: to do from Alabama. But don't you think because it 779 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: looked like they both gonna be red shirt in this year, 780 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: him and Clark, don't you think Clark is just as 781 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 1: good as he was coming out to date in two 782 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,280 Speaker 1: with this man? Layton vander As Specton. Yeah, under Damn Quinn, 783 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: do you think he takes another step forward? Or do 784 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 1: y'all think we see all that we saw from him, 785 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: because I thought he had a good season last ship, 786 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: but they don't look like teams around the league did. 787 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: So that's just my question. Appreciate the finders think of 788 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: my call. Appreciate you, Josh, start with you, Isaiah. He's 789 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: talking about Nakobe Dean from Georgia versus Damon Clark from LSU, 790 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 1: who the Cowboys did so lat Yeah, I think they're 791 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,320 Speaker 1: both very productive players. I do like the speed and 792 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: the I don't want to say the reckless abandonment of 793 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: the Kobe Dean, but I like the fact that he's 794 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: a wrecker. He just wrecks stuff, and you have that 795 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: in Michael Parsons. He just wrecks stuff right from numerous positions. 796 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: So I like the idea of when Michael Parsons decided, 797 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: when they decided to walk him down to the line 798 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, having somebody with the same characteristics to be 799 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: able to wreck some things at the second level being 800 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: that we like to just run with two linebackers at 801 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 1: a time. So I like that idea that has nothing 802 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: to do with the fact that Damon Clark can go 803 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: out there and make plays. Nothing nothing against him. I 804 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: hope that he goes out there and wrecked some things 805 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: as well. But I'm just going off with what I 806 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: know about Nakobe Dean. That was the one element that 807 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: you just knew was going to be present. When he's 808 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 1: on the field, he's gonna he's gonna disrupt some things. 809 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: And I like that idea, but I'm looking forward to 810 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: seeing Clark. And that's why that's why Bobby Wagner was 811 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: so attractive to you, just because you knew what his 812 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 1: wheelhouse was and what he could do as a linebacker, 813 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: and also being able to use Michael Parsons the way 814 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: that you know Dan Quinn is going to try and 815 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: move use him. He's gonna move around a lot. So 816 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: that's why Leyden vander Ess right now is very important 817 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 1: to the equation. And without them going into the draft 818 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: and sort of addressing it on even now in free agency, 819 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 1: not having addressed it, your eyes are kind of open 820 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 1: to to say what's going to happen with the linebacker room. 821 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 1: But I think you know there's a story Jackson from 822 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: Liberty the linebacker. He is a kid that you know, 823 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: there are going to be some kids on this, some 824 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: men on this in the linebacker room, that have a 825 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: decent opportunity to make this roster, especially through special teams. 826 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: As you always note, but we have to do something 827 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 1: about what we have because we don't have what you 828 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: would think is a proven commodity at the linebacker position 829 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: right now. Aaron Hansford also Texas A and M highly 830 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 1: regard good player. I mean that that's that's the name 831 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: to watch. I mean when you're talking about an undrafted 832 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: guy who could step in and maybe earn a job. 833 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: Devin Harper, the sixth round pick, is somebody that could 834 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,839 Speaker 1: get a spot as a special teams guy. I don't 835 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: know about within the defensive rotation, but but he man, 836 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: he was there for six years and he was mainly 837 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: a special teams guy, reserve linebacker till his last year 838 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: of college, and he blew up last year. So do 839 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 1: you think that they added anybody to push vander Ish? 840 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: I feel like they added people on the outside on 841 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: a parameter, But did do you feel like they added 842 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: anybody to challenge vander Ish? I think they're expecting that 843 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 1: to come from Jabril Cox. He's not a mic, I know, 844 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: but that's that's that's what I'm talking about, the mic position, 845 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: specifically the mic I don't know, probably not, yeah, And 846 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: that's I'm like, I think they're expecting him to come 847 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 1: in and play significant snaps because a lot of the 848 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: times they're gonna go with two linebackers. They're gonna show 849 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:55,839 Speaker 1: what that Nickel said. They're not gonna have all three 850 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 1: shire backers out there. I think Cox is more of 851 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: the spot, absolutely, But I'm saying, like, you need a 852 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: Mic James defense in that regard to and this defense, 853 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: you need a mic. Yeah, you need a sound mike, 854 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: which is why I was, you know, I'm with the 855 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,839 Speaker 1: hards on a boby tray. You need somebody who's gonna 856 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: stand up there and take onlineman. Yeah, you have to 857 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: have that guy. And I don't believe that they addressed 858 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: that particular area in terms of having somebody to push Vanderish. 859 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 1: I feel like they put the hat on him, was like, hey, 860 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,720 Speaker 1: this is your spot again, go run with it. They didn't. 861 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: They didn't add any depth to anybody even remotely challenge him. 862 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: That may tell you how they intend on operating as 863 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: a defense without them addressing it. I mean, they're kind 864 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 1: of giving you the brick RUMs to how they're going 865 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: to operate as a defense if they are going into 866 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: the season saying Laden Vandersh is our guy. The only 867 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 1: thing that I have about Laden is can he stay 868 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 1: healthy through an entire season? That's still going to be 869 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: the question, and that's why I want to address it. 870 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: And I think any that's why I say, are you 871 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,359 Speaker 1: asleep at the wheel? Because you know what problems he's had. 872 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,399 Speaker 1: It starts as far as staying available. And I don't 873 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: doubt that that Devin Harper can step in. But you 874 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: just stated, I mean his ability to get on the 875 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: field is going to be through what he does. And 876 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,840 Speaker 1: special teams ask for all of these guys in the 877 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: linebacker room. I don't think they're looking at any of 878 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 1: these guys to be instant defense. And even with Jabriel 879 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 1: coming back from the ACL injury, there's going to be 880 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 1: some residual from that and we should expect it and 881 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 1: I look forward. I love you know, I love Dan 882 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: Quinn and I love his defenses. His However, my only concern, 883 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: and that's my dog. My only concern is that this 884 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: high flying, fast defense that he's been known to have 885 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 1: and that worked on the West Coast and worked in 886 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: atl and obviously worked last year. The NFC East is 887 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 1: starting to go back to the roots of the NFC 888 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 1: East in terms of bullyball, in terms of talk about big, physical, 889 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: just move you off the ball type seven come on now, 890 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,320 Speaker 1: So like that's what it's turning back into. So my 891 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: only inkling of a concern comes at the fact that 892 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,360 Speaker 1: are fast, you know, are fast hybrid linebackers that can 893 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 1: run around and disrupt things and run around and hit 894 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: people if lineman get up to them, if lineman get 895 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 1: up to them, the way that the NFC East lineman 896 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,240 Speaker 1: is starting to turn out, people are drafting big boy linebacker, 897 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 1: big boy lineman. Dallas drafted a big boy lineman, right. 898 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 1: Everybody's going back to run first, throw second. Can they 899 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 1: handle that with their current size. That's my only concern 900 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 1: and the reason why I wanted somebody to come in 901 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: and challenge vander Esh because if you needed to put 902 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 1: two vander Eshes out there, you have that size to 903 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: put two six four two hundred and forty pound two 904 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 1: hundred fifty pound linebackers and say Okay, you want to 905 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 1: run the ball, and let's go two hundred and thirty 906 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 1: pounds in two hundred and forty five pounds. Is a 907 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: major difference is at the linebacker position. Major. Yeah, it's 908 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: a chess game because you're you're trying to it's moved. 909 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 1: The defenses has moved to more of this hybrid look 910 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,439 Speaker 1: because you got it, because the way the passing game 911 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 1: is now and you've got That's why janeron Curses is 912 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 1: kind of a chess piece. You move around. You love 913 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,720 Speaker 1: Mica because he can cover and he's got the closing 914 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 1: speed and all that, but can't the run game is 915 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: part of it too. Can you stand up against the run? 916 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 1: Can your interior lineman stand up against the run? I 917 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: don't know if John Riwick. We got a mailback question 918 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,359 Speaker 1: about can John Ridgeway and and Quentin Bohannah be part 919 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 1: of a double just a big fifty page part of 920 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 1: your package. It's like, I don't know about that dash 921 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 1: cans full of dirt. I do love it. I don't 922 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 1: know if both guys make the team, but they're trying 923 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 1: to do They're they're trying to address that. It was 924 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: some with some beef inside but we'll see if it 925 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 1: works out. Let's take our second break. We got a couple, 926 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 1: We've got a couple more calls. Is that crazy to say, 927 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 1: I don't mean, I don't it's not. I mean we 928 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: just messing with you. I mean I think I don't know. 929 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 1: Quinn Bohanna was a sixth round pick and he played 930 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: some last year. Yeah, but not a ton. Let's take 931 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,879 Speaker 1: our second break. Pastor Q will get to you, Ryot 932 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,720 Speaker 1: after this. You're listening to talking cowboys on Dallas. Cowboys 933 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: do new Doctor Peppers zero sugar? You deserve it. I 934 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 1: do deserve that. You deserve decadent flavor without sugar, and 935 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 1: a day at the beach without sand getting everywhere, and 936 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: a relaxing bath that your children don't interrupt. I deserve 937 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,800 Speaker 1: all that. 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Welcome back everybody, Isaiah stand Backhack, 973 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,239 Speaker 1: My Harrison, Rob Phillips, Kyle Yeoman's and now joined by 974 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: our friend down and Alexandria Virginia Pastor Q on the phone. Now, 975 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 1: what's up? You're on Talking Cowboys? Guys? How you guys 976 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,840 Speaker 1: doing man casting? Great man? Listen. I called in yesterday 977 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 1: to hanging into with the boys and and he got 978 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 1: a question it and I want to do someone to 979 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,959 Speaker 1: follow up with you all as well, um, but mainly 980 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 1: about the receiving Corps. I know that we don't have 981 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,360 Speaker 1: Coop and I felt that last year, going twelve and 982 00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,239 Speaker 1: five of those games we didn't have him. We could 983 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,160 Speaker 1: have used him, but we were still in those games. 984 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 1: So the question that I have for you is with 985 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 1: the undrafted free agent that we have coming in name 986 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 1: A Drumming and I think Fry Frogle and um and 987 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,320 Speaker 1: t J. Bascher, who I think is going to be 988 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: a stud. We have some pieces there, but why not 989 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 1: look at Tony Pollard as our Deebo Samuel. I mean, 990 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 1: here is a guy that can run it out of 991 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 1: the backfield. He played receiver in college. Maybe we just 992 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 1: need to scheme up some more and um trying to 993 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 1: get him some more uses because he's going to be 994 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,839 Speaker 1: a UM I'm gonna shoot the free agent after this year, 995 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,359 Speaker 1: and I kind of don't want to say him walk. 996 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 1: I think it's valuable. I just want to get your 997 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,440 Speaker 1: thoughts on that and how you see about the receiving 998 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,239 Speaker 1: court and how we can use Pollard um, you know, 999 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 1: kind of as a Swiss army knife, kind of like 1000 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 1: they use parsons on the defense. Heck, then thank you 1001 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 1: for that question. Yeah, you like that idea, right, of 1002 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,320 Speaker 1: course I do. I've been I've been clamoring for it 1003 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 1: I wanted, but this question was, you know obviously about 1004 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 1: drumming and Bascher and guys that are on the backside 1005 00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 1: of our um of the roster actually making it. I 1006 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 1: think that's going to be the stretch for these guys. 1007 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,320 Speaker 1: I do believe that they're going to bring in a veteran, 1008 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 1: a proven veteran. I think somebody. There are a lot 1009 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 1: of teams that are not yet done cutting guys. We 1010 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 1: still got to go in the camp and so someone 1011 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 1: will emerge from that group. But I think I go 1012 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 1: back to what I was saying before about dan Quinn. 1013 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,239 Speaker 1: In the linebacker room, you could tell that they hadn't 1014 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 1: done anything of note in the wide receiver room. So 1015 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 1: they obviously have plans for other guys. And when you 1016 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 1: know you talk about the pressure that's on individual groups 1017 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 1: to perform, the wide receiver group is one that you're 1018 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 1: going to have the spotlight firmly on it. I mean 1019 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 1: for CD Lamb as you place it, he has to 1020 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,320 Speaker 1: know that there are whispers out there that he's not 1021 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 1: considered to be the upper echelon. And I think for 1022 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,800 Speaker 1: Dak it's going to be for him to prove that 1023 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,440 Speaker 1: CD is one of those upper echelon receivers. But I 1024 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 1: think of that group that we're looking at, you will 1025 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,320 Speaker 1: probably have a guy emerge that you probably were not 1026 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 1: thinking about. And you pointed to the guy earlier, Smith 1027 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 1: that was on the roster before. I mean, they're just 1028 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,040 Speaker 1: names and there's a lot of opportunity in the wide 1029 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,799 Speaker 1: receiver room. So yeah, going back to Tony Pollard versus 1030 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,239 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel, my initial thought was Tony Pollard's not as 1031 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:15,839 Speaker 1: big as Deebo Samuel. However it's only four pounds. Yeah, 1032 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,840 Speaker 1: but the Saint side of the build, it is a 1033 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 1: different build. Bill, I was about this, I was getting there. 1034 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,680 Speaker 1: But you look at you look at the strength from 1035 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,280 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel. I don't think it's out of the question 1036 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,840 Speaker 1: that you could do something similar with Tony Pollard. Doesn't 1037 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 1: mean he's Deebo Samuel two point oh, but you could 1038 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 1: use him in similar ways. Cowboys have done it before. 1039 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 1: Think about the Saints game last year, the one where 1040 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 1: he actually started with the planter fasciitis. That game, I 1041 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 1: mean they used him in the backfield, they used him 1042 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 1: on sweeps, they used him in the receiving game. That's 1043 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,200 Speaker 1: something I think that needs to be an element of 1044 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 1: this offense and an established more because I don't even 1045 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 1: think he really got a chance to get into a 1046 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 1: rhythm in twenty twenty one as a guy who they 1047 00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 1: put to the outside as a receiver running back hybrid 1048 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 1: TPS fully capable, he's fully capable of fulfilling that that 1049 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:07,360 Speaker 1: Deebo samuel ish role here in Dallas. However, Deebo Samuel 1050 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 1: doesn't even want to fulfill the Deebo samuel Ish role 1051 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 1: because of the way and tear on your body, and 1052 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 1: so understand what comes with that. Yes he can TP 1053 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:16,440 Speaker 1: can go out there and make all the plays for 1054 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 1: you backfield, being the reth receiver position. He could do 1055 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 1: all that fully capable talent out out the wazoo, but 1056 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 1: his body's gonna take a toll. So if you think 1057 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,080 Speaker 1: that that Zeke, you would like to have a beat 1058 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,920 Speaker 1: down Zeke and a beat down TP, go ahead, But 1059 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 1: you need you need somebody to be here one hundred percent. 1060 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,359 Speaker 1: But you think, I just look at what Philly did 1061 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 1: in the acquisition of a J. Brown. You know they 1062 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,360 Speaker 1: got a J. Browne I I am because you know, 1063 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,400 Speaker 1: look you got a J. DeVante. How you missing is 1064 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:48,360 Speaker 1: Casey and Joe, Joe, it's coming. I mean, you have 1065 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,359 Speaker 1: a lot of talent and then not. But the way 1066 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 1: that they're gonna use a j. Brown and they have 1067 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 1: to do it with motion. He may be with the 1068 00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 1: with the contract that he has, they they may use 1069 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 1: him in the backfield. Don't forget that the Philly was 1070 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 1: still leading the league in Russian last year. But I 1071 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 1: think the NFL has caught wind of what Shanahan is 1072 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,239 Speaker 1: doing with the forty nine ers and they want to 1073 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,399 Speaker 1: try and use their slot guys like that. Now will 1074 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,759 Speaker 1: they be at the end of the season at the 1075 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,880 Speaker 1: contract time saying hey, you better pay me as a 1076 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 1: running back and a receiver. That's you have to be seen. 1077 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 1: But I think in the NFL there's a new way 1078 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,320 Speaker 1: that teams are using this wide open concept in the 1079 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 1: offense with the slot receivers. Yeah, and I think it's 1080 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,239 Speaker 1: something that they could grow on and established more from 1081 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,440 Speaker 1: Callen Moore, maybe it opens the playbook a little bit more. 1082 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 1: It just that threat is enough for defenses to have 1083 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 1: a bit of hesitation. And that's why I'm with FACMA. 1084 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:40,720 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean you have to do it at one hundred 1085 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,239 Speaker 1: percent of the time. It doesn't mean, you have to 1086 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,360 Speaker 1: put more. You got to use it on Tony Pollard, 1087 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 1: but at least have it in the bag. We talk 1088 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,520 Speaker 1: about the bag and getting deeper. Let's deep in what's 1089 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,359 Speaker 1: widened that bag as much as possible? All Right, Lynn 1090 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,480 Speaker 1: from California is on the line, our final call here 1091 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:59,439 Speaker 1: on this talking Cowboys Tuesday. Lynn, what's going on? Good morning? Nice? 1092 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,799 Speaker 1: How are you more and more fantastic? Thanks for taking 1093 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,480 Speaker 1: my call? Hey, I'm sorry, but tell me what tape 1094 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 1: you saw on this Ridgeway kid from Arkansas, This defensive 1095 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,759 Speaker 1: tackle that made Dallas point to him and say, that's 1096 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 1: the guy that's going to help us stop the run 1097 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,800 Speaker 1: because I can't find it. He's big, but he doesn't 1098 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,439 Speaker 1: play big. He doesn't play with pop and then tight 1099 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,880 Speaker 1: end they picked. I like him. He's got sticky hands 1100 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,040 Speaker 1: As a receiver, he's a crafty, willing blocker. He's not 1101 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,840 Speaker 1: a rogue grader, but he gets in the way and 1102 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 1: he knows his angles. So if we go into twelve personnel, 1103 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 1: this guy ends up being a good pick. What two 1104 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 1: receivers are in the huddle in twelve? So two questions 1105 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,839 Speaker 1: tape on Ridgeway that points to him being the guy 1106 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,359 Speaker 1: and who are the two receivers and twelve? Thanks guys, 1107 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,719 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Yeah, I appreciate your call in and 1108 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,480 Speaker 1: I get the pause on a guy like Ridgeway. But 1109 00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,759 Speaker 1: first things first, you gotta remember this was a fifth 1110 00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 1: round pick. It was one of four fifth round pick, 1111 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 1: so it's not like they were making this selection in 1112 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:04,840 Speaker 1: the top one hundred. They were jumping out of the 1113 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,719 Speaker 1: cake for this guy. They made a selection based on 1114 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,799 Speaker 1: value of a guy that was valued around the third 1115 00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 1: or the fourth round. And that's a league standpoint. The 1116 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:18,560 Speaker 1: ATP sheets that we get the adjusted production league sheets, 1117 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,399 Speaker 1: that is a league wide thing said third or fourth round. 1118 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 1: So the league thought he was a third or a 1119 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,279 Speaker 1: fourth round pick. But I watched the Georgia game, the 1120 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,399 Speaker 1: Alabama game, in the Old Miss game. Because I don't 1121 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 1: really mess around with tape. I try and get as 1122 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,400 Speaker 1: many guys out there as possible. So I go to 1123 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,160 Speaker 1: the big schools first, and then I watch what he 1124 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,759 Speaker 1: does there. I said, powerful smart player, use his great 1125 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,400 Speaker 1: technique and strength to win at the point of attack. 1126 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 1: Run stuffer who anchors the middle with ease and is 1127 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 1: a tough guy to move off his spot. So He's 1128 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,600 Speaker 1: not necessarily a pass producer. He's not a pass rusher 1129 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,440 Speaker 1: that's going to break through the middle of your defense. 1130 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 1: He's ultimately gonna have a ton of sacks. He only 1131 00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,440 Speaker 1: had two sacks with Arkansas. With his one year he 1132 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 1: had fourth tackles for loss. What his job is to 1133 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,480 Speaker 1: do as the nose tackle is that one technique or 1134 00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,279 Speaker 1: a zero technique is to sit in the middle and 1135 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 1: let the guys around him form a pocket and to 1136 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,400 Speaker 1: just anchor the defensive line. That's what you want him 1137 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,439 Speaker 1: to do, and that's what they saw in the fifth 1138 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 1: round as a guy's saying, hey, we've seen him do 1139 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 1: it before. We've seen him do it against some of 1140 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 1: the best offensive linemen in the country in terms of 1141 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,440 Speaker 1: the SEC and in terms of Alabama Georgia. He did 1142 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 1: it on a consistent occasion and he provided run stuffing ability. 1143 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,600 Speaker 1: That's the kind of thing that they're looking at to 1144 00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 1: supplement a guy like a Quentin Bohanna. Ridgeway right now 1145 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 1: is better than Quentin Bohanna. I think that, like no 1146 00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,440 Speaker 1: doubt in my mind, he's better than Quentin Bohanna. Doesn't 1147 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 1: mean he's gonna come in and light the world on fire, 1148 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 1: and he's gonna be the number one defensive tackle in 1149 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,160 Speaker 1: all of the NFC East. Doesn't mean that's the case, 1150 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,880 Speaker 1: but he can't come in and provide a little bit 1151 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,960 Speaker 1: of an impact in the run defense. There, Yeah, twelve 1152 00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:01,360 Speaker 1: tackles for loss over his career Arkansas, Iinois State and like, yeah, right, 1153 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,640 Speaker 1: it's a dark throw in the fifth round. And if 1154 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 1: he makes the team, he'll be an early round, early 1155 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,080 Speaker 1: down guy to help stuff to run on third down, 1156 00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna get your best pass rushers on the field. Yeah, 1157 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 1: So that's that's that's the kind of role you're looking for. 1158 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 1: And maybe a guy Brent Urban filled that a little 1159 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,280 Speaker 1: bit when he was healthy. You're hoping a young guy 1160 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 1: like that could come in and grow into that role. 1161 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,760 Speaker 1: But that is an important role. May just point one 1162 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,200 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty nine rushing yards that San Francisco had 1163 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 1: in the playoff game. One more thing to add on Ridgeway. 1164 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,560 Speaker 1: He was recruited as an offensive tackle, moved to defensive 1165 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,320 Speaker 1: tackle early in his career at Illinois State, and then 1166 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,880 Speaker 1: after a couple of years, then he transferred to Arkansas 1167 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,360 Speaker 1: and was good at Arkansas. Had no drop off from 1168 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,000 Speaker 1: going from an Illinois State where you're playing in FCS 1169 00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 1: ball and then you turn around and you're playing in 1170 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,920 Speaker 1: the SEC. And he was able to see that there's 1171 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 1: a ceiling with this guy that has not been hit 1172 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 1: and in the SEC against i mean, the biggest, most 1173 00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 1: powerful offensive lines in the conference. So they've seen a 1174 00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,480 Speaker 1: little bit of that from him, so it's worth it 1175 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 1: was worthless shots see if he can develop. The second 1176 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 1: question was surrounding the wide receiving corps. Right, anybody remember what? Yeah, 1177 00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,480 Speaker 1: it was a two receivers in twelve. There you go. 1178 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,920 Speaker 1: You think, how are you going with? I think you 1179 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,720 Speaker 1: go right now, right now, right now, right right now, 1180 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,640 Speaker 1: right now. Uh so gallup out of the equation, Yeah, 1181 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:23,480 Speaker 1: I think you're a CD and James Washington personally not Toilbert, No, why, 1182 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:28,080 Speaker 1: just don't know. It's just a question mark drafting. Yeah, okay, 1183 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,640 Speaker 1: I think he'd be changed after the sure thing either 1184 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,600 Speaker 1: go with the sure thing. Obviously one's gallup is healthy 1185 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,720 Speaker 1: than a CD and gallup. Yeah, that's where it sat 1186 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,520 Speaker 1: right now. I gotta I gotta see the rookie. I 1187 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,720 Speaker 1: gotta see him. Yeah, I think it would be I 1188 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,600 Speaker 1: think I'm I'm with you right now, but I think 1189 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 1: there's a very good competition that's going to be had 1190 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 1: between James Washington and Jaylen Tilbert. I'm sure I like 1191 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,480 Speaker 1: Jaylen Tilburt a lot. I think he'll win that job. 1192 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,640 Speaker 1: But right now I agree with you just haven't seen him. 1193 00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,680 Speaker 1: So James Washington has seen a lot of ball. If 1194 00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,840 Speaker 1: we played tomorrow, I go with the vet he's seen 1195 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,000 Speaker 1: a lot people. I gotta understand that when you're looking 1196 00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,480 Speaker 1: at people, look at the character risks and capabilities and receivers. 1197 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,960 Speaker 1: People don't. You can't see the savvyiness people. He has 1198 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,560 Speaker 1: so much savviness to him, and he understands. He understands 1199 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,680 Speaker 1: the route, he understands the concepts. He understands exactly where 1200 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,520 Speaker 1: where he sits in those different particular concepts. He understands 1201 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,760 Speaker 1: defenses in this league. Those are things that you can't 1202 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:22,040 Speaker 1: expect a Rikie to come in understanding. Rickie might have 1203 01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,480 Speaker 1: exceptional talent, but if he doesn't have those other aspects, 1204 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,560 Speaker 1: the savvy Vets always gonna win. That's one thing Will 1205 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,880 Speaker 1: McClay kept talking about him though, in terms of his 1206 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,160 Speaker 1: football IQ to adjust to those things. But you got 1207 01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,160 Speaker 1: you gotta come in and be able to do it 1208 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,760 Speaker 1: and do it quickly to beat out of vet early. 1209 01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,760 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that real quick? No, I 1210 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,200 Speaker 1: just know, I just think that I'm with you, Isaiah. 1211 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,120 Speaker 1: The sure thing is where I'm gonna go. We don't 1212 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,920 Speaker 1: know exactly what the other player, the rookie is going 1213 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 1: to to offer, so gotta go there first. But the 1214 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:51,840 Speaker 1: thing about Ridge Way, I just want to go back 1215 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,640 Speaker 1: to that is, you know, back to your point, Isaiah, 1216 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,200 Speaker 1: with the linebackers, they have to be able to share 1217 01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 1: and run, and you want to have that one technique, 1218 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,000 Speaker 1: year old technique or three technique to be able to 1219 01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,560 Speaker 1: hold up those blockers. And you get a body six six, 1220 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,200 Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty pounds with Bohannah, and when they 1221 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,240 Speaker 1: go to the jumbo package, you know obviously that's where 1222 01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,760 Speaker 1: you're going to be able to allow your fast guys 1223 01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,280 Speaker 1: to get off the ball and run the bathtub plug 1224 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:16,800 Speaker 1: You remember the old plugs. Did you just put in 1225 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 1: the bathtub thick ones? Yeah, so that's what you guys. 1226 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:23,920 Speaker 1: You guys, don't bring up Gallimore no more. Is he 1227 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:25,640 Speaker 1: just like he's a three technique because this is a 1228 01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,040 Speaker 1: different role. Okay, I would say it's different Warner. Maybe 1229 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,480 Speaker 1: he put on weight. Maybe, yeah, he could have. I 1230 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,680 Speaker 1: haven't seen him in a while. By the way, we 1231 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:36,000 Speaker 1: started this show making a joke about Tom Brady. The 1232 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,520 Speaker 1: numbers are out on his contract. So what the Fox 1233 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 1: is and we don't even know when it's gonna start. 1234 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,320 Speaker 1: You don't even know when it's gonna start. You've seen 1235 01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,919 Speaker 1: it right now. Twenty five a year, more to ten years, 1236 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:52,080 Speaker 1: three hundred and seventy five years, bring good people. Thirty 1237 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,800 Speaker 1: seven and a half million a year to be a 1238 01:01:54,920 --> 01:02:00,600 Speaker 1: broadcaster for ten years for Fox? What's Romo make seventeen seventeen? Whoa, 1239 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,439 Speaker 1: he's more than double Tony Romo. He's put twenty mill 1240 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 1: on Tony's deal. Oh, that's unbelievable. That's shocking. That's been 1241 01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,120 Speaker 1: reported by the New York Post. And this is coming 1242 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:18,120 Speaker 1: from the company that didn't pay Troy Aikman enough to 1243 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,080 Speaker 1: keep him around, and then they throw out three seventy 1244 01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,280 Speaker 1: five for Tom Brady. What's Tom making this year to play? 1245 01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:29,600 Speaker 1: He's gonna make way more yelly? All right, that's gonna 1246 01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,760 Speaker 1: do it for talking cowboys. We're all going to reevaluate 1247 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:33,760 Speaker 1: our career decisions, and we will be back with you 1248 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,240 Speaker 1: next Tuesday to talk about rookie Minicamp, what we've seen, 1249 01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:41,480 Speaker 1: and we get ready for OTA's coming up in a 1250 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,880 Speaker 1: couple of weeks for Rob Phillips, Isaiah Stanback, Heckma Harrison, 1251 01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:48,240 Speaker 1: Chris Beam Up, Kyle Yeomans. So long, We'll see you 1252 01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,680 Speaker 1: next week from the Star in friscod This has been 1253 01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,880 Speaker 1: a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas 1254 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 1: Cowboys Football Club.