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Speaker 1: Ladies, you want experience during your football season, well, buckle up,

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Speaker 1: sweet cheeks. We've got all the experience in the world.

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Speaker 1: This is I want your flex with Dan Bayer and

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Speaker 1: Mike Harmon. Mike and Dan break down everything you need

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Speaker 1: to set your lineups, from position rankings.

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Speaker 2: To starts and sits.

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Speaker 1: The guys help you make those hard decisions. And now

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Speaker 1: let's get your flex. Ond Here's Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 3: Week fifteen in the Books, a doubleheader on Monday nights.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if Mike Harmon is smiling or not,

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Speaker 3: but I know that you can get him at Swollendome

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Speaker 3: on X and Mike Harmon on Blue Skuy. You can

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Speaker 3: Dan Bayer on Fox on x Ian Roddy our executive

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Speaker 3: producer on the Islands Mike. So she's in with us today, Shaye,

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Speaker 3: welcome in. Do I want your flex.

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Speaker 4: It's a pleasure to be here, guys, Thank you, and

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Speaker 4: I'm happy to begin. Came to me first.

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Speaker 2: I think hopefully there you go. Yes, it'll get you

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Speaker 4: I'm so excited for Gluck season.

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Speaker 3: Find him on exit FSR Shae, have you made the

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Speaker 3: jump to Blue Sky for the move over to Blue Sky?

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Speaker 4: I'm good old boring.

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Speaker 3: That's okay. I'm totally fine Ian as it made it

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Speaker 3: either despite us badgering him for eight weeks, not that

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Speaker 3: Shay you can at FSR Shay. Let's get into it, Mike,

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Speaker 3: I guess we can start with your Chicago Bears. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the tough night in Minnesota and the Knights just keep

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Speaker 3: on getting longer and colder for a Bears team that's

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Speaker 3: just looking to find their direction. And if you're looking

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Speaker 3: for any fantasy hopes, you may not want to look

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Speaker 3: in Chicago right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, generally, not a little more from Keenan Allen. He

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Speaker 2: on thirteen targets. A couple times you saw him on

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Speaker 2: from that. DJ Moore did give you eight catches for

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Speaker 2: eight in terms of targeting. Caleb Williams just one hundred

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Speaker 2: and ninety one yards and a score, including at one

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Speaker 2: point he did one of those jump passes and got

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Speaker 2: absolutely drilled. And Tyson Bagent entered the game. At the

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Speaker 2: end when it was all said done, DeAndre Swift had

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Speaker 2: a touchdown call back for alignment failing to report. Once again,

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Speaker 2: the operational efficiency of the Bears top to bottom just

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Speaker 2: continues to astound me. And astound is normally a positive thing.

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Speaker 2: I use it to really highlight how catastrophically bad and

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Speaker 2: poorly this season has gone. Obviously, you know the losing streak.

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Speaker 2: There's three hundred and eighty five days in a row

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Speaker 2: the chin. So you know, there's long expository things to

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Speaker 2: kind of mock the structure. And Thomas Brown, Yeah, let's

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Speaker 2: as an offensive coordinator. Seemed like a brilliant plan. Conversely,

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Speaker 2: looked like it that they actually stripped the captaincy. They didn't.

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Speaker 3: Be right, Mike. You know, I love your Bears uniforms.

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Speaker 3: That's what we've got with Minnesota and in this look.

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Speaker 3: Yeah they were. They were swimming all over the Bears

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Speaker 2: In nine months many Minnesota, a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of Sam's being born. The long term league that

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Speaker 3: And this week I was the only person in the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at this point, you're just at a vote of

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Speaker 2: no confidence. I mean, Cole Kmett had a single target

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Speaker 2: And you know, Caleb Williams was more accurate when he

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Speaker 2: the last Bears quarterback Justin Fields, right. Why there's a

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Speaker 3: Over to the other game, because that's that's also some

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, did you say boom or doom?

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Speaker 3: I said doom and gloom?

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, because I thought you were bringing the boom.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Kirk Cousins Yauza, you were playing Falcons in this

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Speaker 3: Bijon's obviously playing you know, Darnell Mooney. Maybe gets some

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Speaker 3: And outside of Bijon moving forward, and we're talking about

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Speaker 3: matchups are good, but man, it's tough to trust any

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess London still probably rates top thirty six

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Speaker 2: if you're going three deep at wide receiver, but that's

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Speaker 2: kind of gone away, right. You know, we're talking two

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Speaker 2: two's two to two and flex and superflex and whatever. Generally,

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Speaker 2: the three wide receiver set has gone the way of

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Speaker 2: the Dodo bird in many fantasy leagues. But Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 2: was awful. Man eleven of seventeen one hundred and twelve yards,

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Speaker 2: where he's wide open. Otherwise indecisive. Whatever was going on

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Speaker 2: latterly and just over the course of the game, you're

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Speaker 2: You're gonna pull him. This is the Raiders with the

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Speaker 2: with the playoff potential still in the balance, and good

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Speaker 2: for b John Robinson is twenty two for one hundred

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Speaker 3: Dan.

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Speaker 2: I hate to see guys, you know, crumble seemingly overnight.

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Speaker 2: But you know the expiration dates up on Captain Kirk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it is over with and this is this

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Speaker 3: whatever the case may be. But it's over. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: But agree to a buyout. See how many pennies on

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Speaker 2: No, that was awful. Right now, just thirty five yards,

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Speaker 3: If you ask me nicely doing yes, he's Mike Carmen,

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Speaker 2: It means that the Texans are a two and a

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Speaker 3: They know something that we don't. Third.

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Speaker 2: Just get it done already. Just put a channel. Patrick Manneley,

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Speaker 2: No, that's the hard part, right is you looked at

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00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 2: a guy that you know, we call him, for lack

432
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 2: of a better term, a tone setter, right, and what

433
00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 2: he's been each and every week, and the wed laugh

434
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 2: at it with the sonic and knuckles. But it's true.

435
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 2: I mean, not that Gibbs can't run, you know, the

436
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 2: tough runs, but that's not what you pay him to do, right.

437
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 2: That's kind of like a bonus when he does that

438
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 2: a little bit because he needs to. But that's Montgomery's job,

439
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 2: not that he doesn't have some burst of his own.

440
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 2: But now we're looking at Reynolds, right, and then we

441
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 2: start going down to the depth chart. I mean, I

442
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 2: don't know how much more you can put on Gibbs.

443
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 2: And now he had a shorter workload this week based

444
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 2: on the way the game played out. Five catches eighty

445
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: three yards in the score, but only eight carries also

446
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 2: another score. But a thirteen touch game is not what

447
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 2: the doctor orders. These last couple of weeks, you know,

448
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 2: you're gonna need him to pick up the pays, probably

449
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 2: pick up seven to ten more touches. You do have

450
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 2: the Bears, and I don't expect Look, I expected the

451
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 2: Bears to give them a run on Thanksgiving and they

452
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 2: did and then we all know what happened from there.

453
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 2: This team is dead Chicago, So I don't know that

454
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 2: you necessarily need that same Jews San Francisco's you know what,

455
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: are the one to two percent in terms of playoff

456
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 2: viability entering Week sixteen, and then you have the season

457
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 2: finale against Minnesota, which may be a massive deal at

458
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 2: this point, but for fantasy purposes, yeah, it's going to

459
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 2: be more Gibbs and then we'll look to see I

460
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 2: guess Reynolds's next man up.

461
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I also think Mike in a way, if you

462
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 3: can boost Jared Goff after his performance that he had

463
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 3: against the Bills, they're going to need him more and

464
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 3: your defense for all the hits that they're taking as well.

465
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 3: Now you're going to be in games where you're going

466
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 3: to have to score points, and it's a different sort

467
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 3: of game. It's not let's be physical, yep, get out,

468
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 3: you know, on a lead, and we can run them

469
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 3: over and then throw these daggers here and there. It

470
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 3: may be pinball football for the for the rest of

471
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Speaker 3: their way. For the Lions, if they they want to

472
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 3: win out for the rest of the regular season and

473
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 3: in the postseason, I think that Golf and Saint Brown,

474
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 3: Sam Laport, who has been an enormous disappointment fantasy wise

475
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: this season, those guys are gonna have to take bigger roles.

476
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

477
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 2: I think you look at it, and for certainly the

478
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks of those division games, heavyweight bouts,

479
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: and then this game with Buffalo, look for Jared Goff.

480
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: It's look, he's up to thirty touchdown passes. On the

481
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,959
Speaker 2: year thirty and ten. As we look at him here

482
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 2: the touchdown to interception ratio. But Saint Brown's now up

483
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 2: to double digit touchdowns. Laporta at sixty one five point

484
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 2: fifty six and five on the season, lofty expectations.

485
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had a two touchdown game and it was

486
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 3: a game where I think he had six yards or

487
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 3: something like it was. It was recent the.

488
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 2: Old Jerome Bettis like stat line, remember that one five carries,

489
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 2: three touchdowns.

490
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Speaker 3: Yes, but Laporta has been Yeah, it's been a tough

491
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,719
Speaker 3: it has and you're gonna need him to have more

492
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 3: of a role. And I don't know if it's because

493
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 3: of you know, you're trying to get Jamison Williams, if

494
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 3: it's the emergence of Tim Patrick, but for whatever reason,

495
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 3: Laporta just hadn't been It was against your Bears. Three catches,

496
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 3: six yards, two touchdowns, that's what it was. But yeah,

497
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 3: he's just taken a I don't want to say a

498
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 3: back seat. He just hasn't had the effect that he's

499
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 3: had this season. And when the Lions are rolling like

500
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 3: they were, it's not that big of a deal. But

501
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 3: now just with their second loss of the season and

502
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 3: how these last three weeks have gone. You can put

503
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 3: a lot of those warts, become a little bit bigger,

504
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 3: become a little bit more in focus, and you're going

505
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 3: to need those guys. I'd still ride with them, I

506
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 3: honestly would, because at some point it's kind of like

507
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 3: a Jason Witten thing, Mike. You know, if you've been

508
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 3: playing Witting that whole season, and you know at some

509
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 3: point he's going to get into the end zone because

510
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 3: he's going to score three of them a year. To

511
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 3: your point, if Laporta's got five, he's probably gotten at

512
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 3: least one more in him, so you musill rode him

513
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Speaker 3: the rest of the way.

514
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my guy always. Uh that was I

515
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: always called Jason Witten allergic to the painted grass. Here's

516
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 2: my eighty five catches, and you hope he would fall

517
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 2: in at some point. Right now, as we look at

518
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 2: the fantasy scheduled to date, Laporta just outside of the

519
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 2: tight end one position. He's at thirteenth, less than two

520
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 2: points behind Friarmouth, and let's say he's only eleven points

521
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 2: from being tight end six.

522
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a mess.

523
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you'll get it, even the inefficiencies, I mean,

524
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: to put things in perspective, you know, not to make

525
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: it about the Bears, but because I love to mock them.

526
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: Cole Comet, who's very pointed about his criticisms of the

527
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: eber Flus era and what the offense was under Waldron,

528
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 2: he has for the year, he is tight end fifteen.

529
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 2: He had a game where he had one point four,

530
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 2: he had two zero's, a three point three, a five

531
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 2: point six, and a two point four, and he's still

532
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 2: tight end fifteen.

533
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 3: Ouch.

534
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, a twenty five point seven game back in Week three,

535
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: but just showing you where the inconsistency chaos of the

536
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 2: position is hell. Taysom Hills tight end eighteen. He played

537
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: in what eight games now, he had that forty two

538
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: point game that puts you over, but also a sixteen,

539
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: a fourteen to four, and a nine point seven. But

540
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 2: really just kind of showing the erratic nature of that

541
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 2: position and why I have seen more and more leagues

542
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: starting to, you know, make it a hybrid.

543
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if you you know, we talked about

544
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 3: brock Bauers just in the last last segment and how

545
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: that's a bit of a dip. But I guess, I

546
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 3: guess if you have John Us Smith. If you have

547
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 3: Trey McBride, if you have George Kittle, you're probably feeling

548
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 3: pretty good about yourself heading into the stretch run because

549
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 3: those guys have their quarterbacks right now, and those quarterbacks

550
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 3: have been looking for those guys. And yeah, there's just

551
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, Friarworth got into the end zone,

552
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 3: you know, and if George Pickens isn't fully healthy, they're

553
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 3: gonna have to throw it to somebody. So maybe there's

554
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 3: some spots there, but you are seeing some other guys

555
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 3: kind of take some hits, as we mentioned with Bowers,

556
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 3: and and if it is Carson Wentz at the you know,

557
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 3: you still roll with Kelsey. But in this case, if

558
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: you have Laporta in a coin flip, I think you

559
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 3: go with him just because I just think the Lions

560
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 3: are going to continue to need to score thirty and

561
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 3: forty points a game to win games.

562
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: Last one. McBride second tight end, right, he's little more

563
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: than a little less than a point. I had a

564
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 2: George Kittle one hundred and ninety five points on the year.

565
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: You know what's dat, I'm gonna bring up the goose

566
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: eg zero touchdowns. He's the number two tight end.

567
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 3: Crazy.

568
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: That's insane.

569
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, Tyree kill owners can't stand john

570
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 3: Us Smith either, so there's there that aspect of it.

571
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 3: The Jonas Smith Jets game has been the one where

572
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 3: it's zero throughout the entire game and then they go

573
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 3: to overtime and three catches fifty three yards of the score.

574
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: It's a crazy world. Can I get one more injury

575
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: in while we're at it?

576
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

577
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, not sure full on and this goes

578
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 2: to the waiver wire, so kind of bleeds into but

579
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 2: Tony Pollard looked less than himself, got the early score,

580
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: so I think we're gonna see more of Spears. Very

581
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: active in the passing game. Six for eighty seven, did

582
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: find the end zone, and you got a really good

583
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:41,959
Speaker 2: matchup even if Pollard it goes you're going up against Indianapolis. Yeah,

584
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: so waiver wire, but also a hey, there's an injury

585
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: that might give him a little more than a flex option.

586
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: You get him in as a flex or as a

587
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: low end daily fantasy guy, but might help bring you

588
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: a title.

589
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 3: And Brian Callahan said on Monday that they'll know Wednesday

590
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 3: or are going to take a couple of days to

591
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 3: decide on who their quarterback is going to be, because

592
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 3: Will Levis got benched after the three I inta performance,

593
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 3: So whoever it is, you're maybe relying more on spears

594
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 3: as well. I mean, if you stick, if you stick

595
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 3: to Levis, you're probably gonna lean more on the running game.

596
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 3: And if Mason Rudolph's in there and you only have

597
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: spears anyway, Miles let it roll when you have the

598
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 3: Colts and Jaguars the next two weeks. So uh, Seahawks

599
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 3: Gino Smith dinged up getting good news on it. But

600
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 3: it's it's pretty plain as day. If Sam Howell starts,

601
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 3: you can't start anybody. So there's there's your voice of no.

602
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: That's tough. Even with the running back position, you start

603
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 2: to kind of cringe a little bit, yes, you know

604
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like even even getting in a top

605
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: twenty four is a difficult proposition.

606
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 3: I started to wonder, Mike, if they actually didn't fire

607
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: Pete Carroll and he's just you know, like directing the

608
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 3: offense behind the scene, and that we just don't know

609
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 3: about it. It's you know, uh, maybe maybe that's the case.

610
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: His name came up a lot this week after the

611
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: Belichick hire at New North Carolina.

612
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 3: I can tell you that, well, not a lot of

613
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 3: people in Seattle are happy with Ryan Grubb as the

614
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator in year one. So we'll see if we'll

615
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 3: see if there's a there's a change or if things

616
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 3: change over the next three weeks. Anyway, all right, let's

617
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 3: get to you mentioned waiver wires. We're gonna get to

618
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: that coming up next. Plus we'll do our report card check.

619
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. Somebody absolutely crushed their quarterback place

620
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 3: this week. I don't give quarterback plays. Ian didn't chase here,

621
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 3: he didn't give them. So you know who did. We'll

622
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 3: tell you about it next year, and I want your flex.

623
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna get to the waiver wire and

624
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 3: do our report cards. I'm Dan Byer, He's Mike Harmon.

625
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 3: Shay is in for Ian Roddy. I'm just gonna put

626
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 3: this out there, Mike. I feel that it's good for

627
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: our listener. I made no playoffs. I was chopped in guillotine.

628
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 3: My picks contest that I'm in is basically a waste.

629
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 3: My survivor was washed in week three or four. My

630
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: re up in Survivor was washed in week seven. It's

631
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 3: been an utter failure of twenty twenty four for fantasy,

632
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 3: for fantasy, for fun, in any of that. For me

633
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 3: in the NFL this season, it's been.

634
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 2: Pretty well against the spread. Other than that, man week

635
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: to week, we have our hits and misses. We'll get

636
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 2: to our report card in a minute. But yeah, I'm

637
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: with you. Fantasy leagues finished a game out of the playoff,

638
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: and I could point to, you know, one roster move

639
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: I didn't make here in a given week or failed performance. Right,

640
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: I was riding with Justin Tucker as my kicker enough

641
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: set in close games, just at the Ravens. I lost.

642
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: Ah, it's a tough one. Well.

643
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: And then in Guillotine, right, big plus matchup Bears. You

644
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: know I mentioned Cole Comet before in his one catch

645
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 2: for fourteen yards the week I got eliminated, he didn't

646
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: appear in the box and Caleb Williams was in the

647
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: last throws of the Shane Waldron runs. So I exited Guillotine.

648
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 2: And what is this year three of Guillotine.

649
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: Dan Year two for the Fox one for the Fox.

650
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: One, but year three overall for me, I've done I

651
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 2: think seven guillotines. This was the first first time I

652
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: didn't make a final. I was eliminated what week eight

653
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: or week nine? I was like, that's it all right?

654
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 3: Well, hopefully there are better days ahead. Shay. How is

655
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: your fantasy postseason looking? Do you do you do you

656
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 3: have teams alive? Or was it just as bad as

657
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 3: what I described or kind of what Mike described?

658
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: Well?

659
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 4: To hear Mike complained about guillotine was a little annoying

660
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 4: because week one exit for me.

661
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what this is. You know, we're gonna

662
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. We'll dive into that in tomorrow's

663
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 3: we're going to bring up Shay got eliminated week one

664
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 3: and he got screwed by Adam Schefter and Christian McCaffrey

665
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 3: big time. But but he did get the first eliminated

666
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: prize out the door, which was twenty bucks. Yeah, and

667
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 3: so it worked out that way.

668
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 4: We can talk about that.

669
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we'll do more Schefter talk. No, just kidding.

670
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 3: I think he said enough, and I think Doug would agree, so.

671
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: I think we would all agree. What else did you

672
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: have the Yeah?

673
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 4: I was a first round exit, Yeah, which was pretty

674
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 4: upsetting today, didn't even score over one hundred, but I

675
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 4: got out of the Saco Bowl in one of my leagues,

676
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 4: which makes me very happy that Darnal Mooney Donut was

677
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 4: big for me. They started Sam Darnald two that was

678
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 4: massive for me, and they actually they also started Addison

679
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 4: but he did all right. But it worked out for me,

680
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 4: so I'm happy. I'm not in the Saco Ball. And

681
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 4: then in another league I won, but I didn't make

682
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 4: playoffs and there is a Saco Bowl, so it's a

683
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 4: it was an unfortunate year of fantasy.

684
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 3: Sure, all right, well, hey, I'll tell you what it wasn't.

685
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: It wasn't a great week for me in terms of

686
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 3: my points at Palooza. I should have just went with

687
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 3: a chalk Mike. I should have maybe taken the pass

688
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 3: that week. But I went Commanders Saints. That did not happen.

689
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 3: That was just more of like all right, at the

690
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 3: Commanders end up getting some points, Maybe the Saints will

691
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 3: play catch up. Dart Near almost won the game, and

692
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 3: without George Pickens, the Steelers just really had slim Pickens

693
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 3: on offense, so there was no bust out with the

694
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 3: Eagles survivor pick had the Cardinals, right, I told you

695
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 3: to take a flyer on the Panthers. But again, if

696
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 3: you're in week fifteen of a Survivor league, you're not

697
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 3: taking my advice because you're doing well already. But that

698
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 3: would have been the week that you would have done it,

699
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 3: and obviously it failed because the Cowboys ended up winning

700
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 3: that game. My Oasis tribute was Derrick Henry, and I

701
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 3: was debating on whether it should be Derrick Henry or

702
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson because I needed somebody against the Giants for

703
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 3: the Oasis album that I mentioned, and I picked the

704
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 3: wrong Raven, So that was a little bit disappointing. Ian's

705
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 3: streaming defense was the Cardinals. I didn't even look it up.

706
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 3: I should have looked it up before the podcast. I

707
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 3: just realized it. So Mike, I'll give you the four. Yeah,

708
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 3: oh he did he did? All right? Shay? What did he?

709
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: How did he do? Well?

710
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 2: I'll be Ian today.

711
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 4: So he had the Commanders with seven points okay, one interception,

712
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 4: two sacks, seventeen points allowed, and then he had the

713
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 4: Cardinals for five points, one interception, three sacks, and nineteen

714
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 4: points alive.

715
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 3: Oh all right, well, hey, modest plays for Ian.

716
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Commander's finished mid mid D two and Arizona.

717
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 3: Right bind the handicap was correct. Sometimes they just don't

718
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 3: work out for you. Mike's handicap of quarterbacks was spot on.

719
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 3: In our league, we had three forty point quarterbacks this week.

720
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 3: Mike had all three of them in this top five.

721
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 3: Very well.

722
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 2: Un Yeah, no, we'll take it, you know, Allen and

723
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 2: Lamar and Goff getting it done, getting it done for

724
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 2: us there. In terms of the Ninjas, we had Aaron Rodgers.

725
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: He was the number three or four quarterback depending on

726
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 2: scoring system. I think number four.

727
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 3: Thomas in that game was solid for you.

728
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, gave us give us a little bit

729
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: of love there. We look at the running back position.

730
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: James Connor, we said keep going with him, and well

731
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: he made us, made us look fairly smart. B Jon

732
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 2: Robinson at one hundred and twenty five. That gives him

733
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: a top ten performance, nothing world beating. Jamir Gibbs was

734
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: number three, finished number three. Josh Jacob's finding the end

735
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 2: zone he was number six, so that gives us some

736
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 2: love along the way and then going deeper into our

737
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 2: extra pickups along the way. Ric o'downell was number nine

738
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: in PPR, So we'll take the victory out of the

739
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: hot plays there and then we look at the cold sores, Well,

740
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: Nick Chubb does, Nick Chubb thinks.

741
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 3: Unfor as he got hurt too, broke done for the years.

742
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: So that's a tough one. So that means, you know,

743
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: we'll get to waiver wires here in a minute and

744
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 2: where you're obviously heading to in that regard. But yeah,

745
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 2: tough end for him. And then we we did have

746
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 2: well Jonathan Taylor was a guy that we kind of

747
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: talked about a little bit and well there's a reason

748
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: he finished twenty versts this week. How crazy is that?

749
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: Oh? I would say crazy, except we seem to see

750
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: it every week in the NFL. He really is, Yeah,

751
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 3: twice this past week.

752
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, insane, right, Ryan Thomas, as you mentioned, we take

753
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 2: the victory on that. Terry McLaurin was a top five.

754
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: He finished sixth for US. AJ Brown got fed, finished

755
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 2: tied for eighth with DeVante Smith. So that was great.

756
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase did not give us the usual heroics that

757
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: we get, but you know, have my expectations are just gone,

758
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 2: you know.

759
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 3: So I'll just say this. I'm gonna make one another

760
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 3: point because there's a cold sore that you nailed, Mike.

761
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 3: You have older daughters who are either graduated high school

762
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 3: are getting close to it. So there ever been a

763
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 3: time where maybe they were working on a project and

764
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 3: they were in their room for like two hours and

765
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 3: they basically just didn't get anything done. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

766
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 3: that's how I felt. The Seahawks were on Sunday night

767
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 3: against the Packers.

768
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 2: I was to watch here.

769
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's just you look, you end up looking

770
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: at the box score because you had dk metcalf As

771
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 3: a cold sore ye and what do you know, he

772
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 3: was cold three catches twenty eight yards in the in

773
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 3: the contest, only had three targets. Js N was busy

774
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 3: with his twelve targets and ten receptions. But they didn't

775
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 3: run the ball that well. They got their score basically

776
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 3: on a turnover, so they were set up with good

777
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 3: field position. Gino Smith gets knocked out with a knee injury.

778
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 3: Sam Holli couldn't do anything. They were picked off twice,

779
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 3: and you're like, what did you do for twenty seven

780
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 3: minutes when you had the football? It's just what an

781
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 3: absolute mess? But you nailed dk metcalf as a cold

782
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 3: soar because he was cold.

783
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: In Week fifteen, Romadonza. We talked about his two catches

784
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: thirty nine yards will take the victory there, Caleb Williams

785
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: pedestrian effort along the way, and then Jerry Judy how

786
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 2: about that even at a disaster see Shay, we got

787
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: one positive out of Cleveland because Judy finished eleventh. He

788
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: was in our hot plays for the week. So it

789
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: take some victory laps, plenty of disasters mixed there in.

790
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: But you know, you can't what is the old You

791
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 2: can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs. We certainly

792
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 2: did that here.

793
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 3: Well what eggs are we going to break for waiver

794
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 3: wire pickups? Where are we going to find in these

795
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: little treasures that could come to the rescue of some

796
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 3: playoff teams if you allow him in your league?

797
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think right off the jump, as we talked

798
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 2: about with the broken foot for Nick Chubb, I mean

799
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: it means immediately we turn our attention to the fun

800
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 2: and exciting world that is Jerome Ford, who was busy

801
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 2: for us early this season. So we get him back

802
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: into the fold for the final couple of weeks. Here,

803
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: Jalen McMillan and Tampa Bay shows up on the wide receivers.

804
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 2: How about Aaron Rodgers after a big effort this last week,

805
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 2: You've got another opportunity here against a pretty good Rams squad.

806
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 2: But you know, we were talking a little bit more

807
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: consistency with the big play threats. We mentioned Tajy Spears before,

808
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: so he's certainly on the radar for us. Russell Wilson

809
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 2: is still only owned in half of leagues. Going up

810
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: against that Baltimore secondary, got to think you get them

811
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,479
Speaker 2: much better effort than you against Philly. That's for damn sure.

812
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: I've always been enamored with Drake May. I think just

813
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: based on the fact that they'll probably give up a

814
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: ton of points means he's going to keep throwing the

815
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 2: football this week and then in depthite acts of desperation

816
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: or in daily fantasy where you don't want to put

817
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 2: any money into your quarterback position. How about we look

818
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: at mac Jones going up against Las Vegas.

819
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 3: Interesting play because of the matchup and mac Jones, by

820
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 3: the way, fair.

821
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: And all right again, and he did the rizzler his

822
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: face after a big play, so keep bringing it back. Yeah, yeah,

823
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 2: no question about that.

824
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 3: The Drake May play is interesting only because we don't

825
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 3: know if girod Mayo is going to kill Alex van

826
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 3: Peltz before next week.

827
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 2: That's true, or they're going to come down from the

828
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: booth to kill him.

829
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he sure did throw him under the bus

830
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 3: at his postgame presser.

831
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, you want to talk about a very

832
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 2: interesting how we joked about it a little bit on Sunday,

833
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks and I Fox Football Sunday, Shay, you know

834
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 2: when we were having that conversation. Obviously Belichick going to

835
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 2: Bucky's alma mater, but what did he say about Bill

836
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 2: Belichick in New England right about now? Boy, they'd kill

837
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 2: to have old Bill back in that room. Oh yeah,

838
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 2: I would, so you know one of those that's floating

839
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: out there as well. Finally, Romeo dubs Dad has two touchdowns,

840
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 2: he's all fired up. Rashad Bateman going up against Pittsburgh,

841
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh showing that secondary vulnerable a little bit. And then

842
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: I think we talked about the tight end position a

843
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: bunch early on Stone Smart still going to see a

844
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 2: decent amount. And then Noah Gray owned in a little

845
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: less than a quarter of leagues. I think with the

846
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: the backup quarterback most likely, And again this is all

847
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: speculation as we do this on a Monday night, that

848
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: we'll see Carson Wentz. But Noah Gray is had himself

849
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 2: a pretty good citizen.

850
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 3: It is technically Tuesday morning in a lot of places, say.

851
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 2: That, yes, yeah, as we well, it's creeping towards Tuesday

852
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: morning even where we are as we finish the recording.

853
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: But yes, how about Noah Gray as a little bit

854
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: of a price shot?

855
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 3: All right? Well, there are a lot of teams that

856
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 3: I know are anxious to get going in the playoffs

857
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 3: because maybe they had first round byes.

858
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 2: How about that?

859
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there isn't It's not always the greatest of

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Speaker 3: things to have a first round by It something we're

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Speaker 3: going to talk about in our next podcast, plus talk

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Speaker 3: about the state of affairs in the NFL, how this

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Speaker 3: your fantasy league and so much more so for producer

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Speaker 3: Shay and Mike Harmon, that'll yeah, that's good about doing

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Speaker 3: any last words, gentlemen before we go, I guess I'll

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Speaker 3: leave it to you guys that won't sign off for you? Mike,

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Speaker 3: you got anything else?

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Speaker 2: Sing it away? And the Bears still.

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Speaker 3: Suck Shae can sing that with you in harmony and

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Speaker 3: we can move on, so that will wrap it up

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Speaker 3: for all of us here on. I want your flex.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you always listening, even if you're out of

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Speaker 3: your fantasy season. We love that you're still sticking around

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Speaker 3: with us. We'll talk to you next time, right here,

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Speaker 3: and I want your flex