WEBVTT - Charlotte & Trey with Kyle MacLachlan 0:00:01.639 --> 0:00:04.880 Hi, I'm Kristen Davis, and I want to know are 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:06.520 you a Charlotte? 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:10.560 We are back with are You a Charlotte? 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:13.680 We're going to continue with the fantastic. 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:16.040 Oh have so much fun. Thank you really doing this. 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:19.279 You're a great host. Well, you're so sweet. You're a 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:21.320 great guest, of course, and I can't wait to listen 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:24.040 to your podcast. Thank you, thank you. What are we 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:26.439 even doing? What are we even doing? What are we? 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:28.280 I know, and you can say the number of general ways. 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:29.920 I know what. I like that are we even doing? 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:32.320 What are we even doing? It depends on the moment, 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:35.400 depends on the day. Yeah, I like it. I like it. 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:38.400 What I didn't get to in my rewatch of last 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:42.120 night was when we go to Connecticut, which I don't 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:43.320 even know if we really. 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:45.480 Go to Connecticut. I think it's Bunny's house. 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:48.720 And we played tennis, which I have a lot of 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:52.120 photographs in my possession of us playing tennis. Yeah, I 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:54.320 don't know why. We must have had to take like 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:55.400 prop photos or something. 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:57.840 The tennis one sort of towards the end, right, it 0:00:57.920 --> 0:00:58.360 must be. 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:00.240 I don't know. I didn't get that far, but like 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:02.880 I make up with the gardener apparently, which I thought 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:04.880 was a dream, but apparently it's real. 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:08.000 Ce. See, I don't remember everything accurately, do you know 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:08.360 what I mean? 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:11.000 It's like, what was Charlotte doing? Is it because we're 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:11.720 not having sex? 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:12.760 I don't know. 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:15.120 I haven't gotten to that part. Anyone know, Yes, okay, 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:17.480 I think that's why. Yeah, but I mean, that's so sad. 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:18.880 Linked it out, That's okay. I did. 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:19.280 I did. 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:20.920 I banked it out. I liked it. I remember, and 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:23.119 I remember I remember this the tennis court. 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.800 I mean it was the same same sequence there, the 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:28.280 night shot, Yes, and I and I had gone out 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.200 because I was frust I was frustrated myself. I was 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:32.120 angry at myself and I couldn't do what I was 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:33.360 supposed to do, and they had me out and I 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:37.160 was out at this court, and I remembered I took 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:39.520 tennis lessons there at the Central Park. There's there was 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.080 a wonderful facility there. I didn't play tennis. I was like, okay, 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:43.160 I got to look like I know what I'm doing, 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:44.600 and which I really didn't. 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:48.120 But you know, through this, so many times I was Charlotte, Yes, 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:48.480 and I. 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:51.680 Was there, and I remember because it was a warm 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:55.960 night and I was hitting balls and the the the 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:58.600 makeup ladies came over and they were like, you need 0:01:58.600 --> 0:01:59.960 to be a little sweaty, and I was like okay. 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:02.840 And they started taking baby oil and loving it. 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:06.840 And I was like, that's the one right there. Look 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:08.399 at that's it. Oh my god. 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:11.320 And I was like, I said, I think this is 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.560 a little I think it's a little too much, right 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:16.680 And I was like and they were like no, they 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:18.959 were like no, no, and they were like doing so 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:19.240 I was. 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:21.440 Like, look at you. Oh my god. 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:24.519 I was a young man right there, incredible. And I 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:29.560 was just like, I said, okay, I said, all right, whatever. 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:31.600 I'm sure all of the guys and all of the 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:33.800 girls having a great time. 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:37.600 Very like, I know, why don't with a gardener, why 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:39.320 don't I just try harder? Rageous? 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:41.960 You know, That's the whole thing is. He looks good 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:44.000 on the outside, but the inside it's just not working. 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:46.320 It's sad. It's so sad. 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:50.440 It's so funny though, because I only remember some of it, 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:51.240 it's interesting. 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:53.560 Yeah, there are a few moments that. 0:02:55.120 --> 0:03:00.399 Like I remember, I remember the the scene in the bathtub. 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:03.360 With when Francis. 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:05.760 Yeah, I'm in the maasth Hub and Franny is sitting 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:07.000 on the toilet smoking. 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:09.400 It's okay, you know, it's good, but it's not good 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:11.560 for Charlotte. Yeah, and you kind of put your head 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:13.919 and it's like, what the hell is Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:14.880 I had forgotten that. 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:20.720 Yeah, but I immediately recognized. I said, this is the 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:24.760 entire relationship in one scene, in one visual. 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:27.480 Yeah, I said, that's true, and I think. 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:28.600 That we had And I said, no, give me a 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:32.440 washcloth and I'm going to be washing, not just soaking, 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:36.880 I'm actually washing and we're chatting like everything is totally fine. 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.680 And I said, there's a brilliant moment. And the other 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:41.680 one that I loved, which you're probably member, is when 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:42.520 we're shopping. 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:42.840 For a bed. 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:46.240 Oh yeah, three of us on the bed and it's good. 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:48.320 Just again, I'm like, there it is. 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:51.840 That's it's a good visual. I'll tell you what I 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.560 remember because I thought that it was very hard and 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:56.000 I was very scared to do it. 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:57.800 And it might have been Charles also. 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:00.920 And the other thing I want to about Charles before 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:03.760 we move on, because I was watching them in order, right, like, 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:04.400 I watched. 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:05.280 More than I would normally watch. 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:07.920 Last night and so when when you switch from one 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:11.200 director to the next, you're like, oh, when it's someone new, right, 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:13.680 and they put in and he would do film us, 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:16.640 even in the intimate scenes on a longer lens, and 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:20.279 it's so cinematic. And that's when Carrie's having the affair 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:25.760 with Big behind Aiden's back, and it's so beautifully filmed. 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:30.800 And she's so great. I mean, everyone's so good. It's 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:35.920 so nice to see such a good director. 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:39.680 But then what I remember with us is when so 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.960 so you in Burgdorf you hand me, I say, oh, 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:45.479 did you do your list for the party? And you 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:47.599 hand me your list and behind the list for the 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:49.839 engagement party is the prenup. 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:52.600 And I'm like, Trey in the middle of burg Dwarf, 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.960 what is this? Yeah? And You're like, oh, it's nothing. 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:58.480 Everyone in the family does it. You know, you're very 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:01.920 And so I go to the girls and I'm like, 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:03.159 can you believe this? 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:05.800 And and I've got Miranda look at you say, oh, 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:07.279 just have your lawyer look at it, like I have 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.279 a lawyer, right, Well, luckily Miranda's lawyer. 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:11.400 So I take it to Miranda. 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:12.919 And she's like, oh, well, this is interesting, you know, 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:14.839 it's normal. People do this, like I would do this 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:16.960 if I were getting married. And then she gets to 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:18.760 the part where it's like I get extra money if 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:20.800 I have a boy child, but I get no money 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:22.760 if I have a girl child, and I'm like, what 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:23.360 on earth? 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:25.640 And I mean rewatching. I didn't remember any of this, 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:29.839 so I was like, that is fucking weird. Yeah, I 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:30.799 mean really brilliant. 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:33.200 But then where I didn't get to last night but 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:37.000 I know is good. The party I go to and 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:40.400 negotiate with Franny with Bunny and that's when I say 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:43.920 I'm worth a million. And I remember being so petrified 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:46.520 because it was one of those shots where they set 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:48.800 the shot up and it's like a super close up, 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:51.560 and you know it's a super close up and it's 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.400 kind of like someone's like joking you like the pressure, 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:57.520 and they keep trying to explain to me how I feel. 0:05:57.600 --> 0:05:59.600 And I remember Jenny's trying to explain to me how 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:02.760 I feel, and Charles is trying to tell me what 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:04.480 to do, like how to do it or whatever, and 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:08.640 they just want me to like embody like I'm worth 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:10.720 a million or whatever, but like what does that mean? 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:13.279 Like I was struggling like, what does that mean? 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:16.000 It's perfect? Actually that you brought all that into it? 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:16.800 Is it perfect? 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:19.400 Because that would that would be Charlotte. 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:21.200 She wouldn't come. 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:25.800 In, She wouldn't suddenly come in like hard heart, you 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:26.200 know what I mean? 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:26.719 That's nice. 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:28.960 She is so everything that you're going through was perfect, 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:34.679 Thank you, Kyle. Perfect and the direct no, no, you're 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:35.680 so people. 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:40.000 A saying you're so good with people? 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:44.000 What about what about moving on? What about the whole 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:45.599 remember the whole wedding thing that we did? 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:47.560 Oh my god, yes, insanity. 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:50.200 And my favorite, my favorite moment of all that was 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:51.960 the gentleman who played. 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:55.880 Kim's paramore in that moment? 0:06:56.640 --> 0:07:00.960 Was it rich Is she with Richard bish accent? 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:07.440 Do you remember him? Oh? Almost? And I was like, 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.880 and you'd make out a word every now and then. 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:17.240 And I said, years later, when I was playing golf 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:20.920 in Scotland, I have a Scottish coach and I said. 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:23.320 Oh my god, I said, it's the same accent. 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:26.160 Wow, I can't understand a word from He's from the 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:27.120 far north of Scotland. 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:28.240 And he would say in the. 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:33.040 And I'd be like, that's good, and I would sit 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.240 for a minute kind of there and I'd be like 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.200 like thinking, like I knew it, like listening to his 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:39.320 odd comments and I'd be like, I'm just trying to 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:40.960 figure out what the hell he said about. 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:43.280 And then I would then I would go, oh, Okay, 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:44.360 I think I got it, you know what I mean. 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.440 And then I would say Okay. Then he'd say something 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.120 else and I'd have to take a minute to think about. 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:51.720 But yeah, I just love it. He was so fun. 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:55.720 That's funny. I need to remember him at all. Was wow. 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:58.360 I don't remember him, but I mean good that they 0:07:58.400 --> 0:07:59.960 brought a Scottish ship. Were they killed. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:01.760 Yeah, I don't even know if he's truly Scottish or not. 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:03.280 He just wanted to doing something crazy. 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:06.480 Oh my god, he was. He was truly wonderful. That 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:13.440 was a whole really fun. It was really funny, so incredible. Yeah, 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:15.760 it was so beautiful. 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:18.600 And such like we joke about it with the girls 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:22.280 because I have pictures of them sleeping on the pews 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:24.560 because that's how long we were there, you know, which 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.520 is like very much our mo O with not our 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:29.119 personal emo but the show's ema. Right, everything took forever. 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:31.960 But I also have pictures of me, like in the 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.840 courtyard of that church like they had to. I couldn't 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:36.199 sit down, like I needed a. 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:38.760 Leaning forward for the dress because that's huge vera Wang. 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:41.880 And so I'm sitting in like funny on like weird 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.880 perches and whatever, like just so thrilled, like I'm actually 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:47.319 getting married, which I actually don't even care about, right, 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:51.040 But it's like the enthusiasm of Charlotte was inhabiting me, 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:51.679 do what I mean. 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:52.840 And I'm just beaming. 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.839 I'm so excited, so happy, and the girls are so mad. 0:08:56.200 --> 0:09:00.160 Well, it's a crazy thing because rarely we're all all 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.559 the cast members together like that. I mean, I know 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:04.160 in each episode there was always a moment when all 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:06.439 four of you came together and kind of much stuff 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:10.920 we're not there, so it was rare when I was there. 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:14.080 I think there was one dinner sequence when I was 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:15.640 there with the girls, and I remember I all think. 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:16.959 I remember it was a restaurant. It was one of 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:20.000 the oldest restaurants in New York where we went, and 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:20.839 I don't even remember where. 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:21.920 It was somewhere in. 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:26.640 The theater district and it's hard with the b okay okay, anyway, 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:28.240 that was one and it was an all night one, 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:31.400 so we were all like, of course, delirious that and 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:35.360 then the wedding sequence was another one. And I love 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:39.280 the fact that the writers like they took me Kyle 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.640 maclachlin and they said, Okay, we're going to lean into 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:44.520 the Scottish side of things, so they had me wearing 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:47.880 a kilt it, you know, which was was also brilliant 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:49.839 because it was like, oh, he's wearing the dress and 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:52.000 the relate you know, it was like it was like, oh. 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:53.120 There's there's layers here. 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:56.000 Absolutely that the writers are thinking about it were just 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.560 so clever that the writing stuff was so. 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:00.560 Good, Oh my god, so good for the show. 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:03.360 And the only other thing I wanted to mention was 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:07.600 about was was friend Francis Franny, because you know, she 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:12.240 played that Upper east Side matron, waspy. 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:13.640 Matron so perfectly. 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:15.720 When she would unfam with this when she would come 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:18.520 to the makeup trailer, she would come in and like 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:21.920 she'd have like like she just came off the farm 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:22.839 upstate New York. 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.080 She Birkenstock song so different like. 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:28.199 Short capris kind of and like kind of a blouse 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:30.120 and like almost a straw hat. I mean it was 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:33.160 literally like I'm coming in just just put took off 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.240 and now I'm ready to turn into and they put 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:42.800 her in the chanel and mirror and suddenly like wow. 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:43.559 What a transformation. 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:47.120 So she was scary and me was scary. 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:49.480 At least I was scared of her. You know, you 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:51.520 probably weren't, but she was right. 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:55.559 But I mean that part was kind of surprising because 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:59.520 Franny herself was like such a mom vibe, you know 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:04.520 what I mean, like so so warm and lovely, cigarette 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:07.120 in her hand and watch out many. 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:11.000 Oh all of it. 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:15.200 Well we should do this alrighty, And you realized he 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.560 just he just developed this thing. That's what happened, you know. 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:22.359 After that, he's just definitely better to. 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:24.200 Just give up. And because it was otherwise it was 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:25.000 too much press. 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:27.360 Shoot, That's why I think that the cardboard baby and 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.560 the saying that you wanted to play golf, I think 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:34.200 it was like you had developed you Trey had developed 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.680 this passive aggressive thing with your mom, like you know, 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:39.080 you didn't have a way out right, and so then 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:42.440 I push you so far and I really want you 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:44.560 present right, like I'm not going to be okay with 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:47.560 the checked out. I think that was when I have 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:49.560 to rewatch it all to be sure, but like there's 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.240 a scene that I think Alan Colter, who had on 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:57.200 so much, and he's one where he when he showed 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:00.839 up the visuals, like looked up. You know, he was 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.520 such a great director. And he fondly remembers a scene 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:05.040 that I haven't gotten to in the rewatch because I 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:06.840 think it's after we kind of break up and then 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:08.839 we get back together and we have some kind of 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:11.199 a scene about how we love each other but it's 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.720 just not enough, and he had us just leaning against 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.439 a wall. Do you remember this vaguely? 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:19.199 Like possibly outside the door. 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:21.720 Maybe outside the door, and I'm wearing like my green, 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:22.520 my favorite green. 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:25.240 I think it was in the doorway. Maybe people will 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:27.640 know what they want to look up tell us. Yeah, 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.240 I'll have you back to talk about that we got 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:33.000 this wrong, and we got this wrong, I know at all. No, 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.200 I don't think we got anything wrong, Carl, I don't. 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.319 I think its the. 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:39.160 Fans will tell us, But I mean, I don't think 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:42.880 that I don't think that the Minutia detection. 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:45.240 Is retroactive, do you know what I mean? 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:47.040 I feel like the fans who love Sex and the 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:48.760 City just watch Sex and the City and don't pick 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:51.160 it apart in the way that the fans picked apart 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:53.400 and just like that and probably anything else that's on 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:53.839 right now. 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:57.360 Maybe well, maybe that's a social component that becomes because 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:00.800 because then you have a you have a community, you know, 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:03.600 that supports each other and then can weigh in, you 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.760 know what I mean, and correct and adjust and everything. 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:20.080 When you got off our show, did you go directly 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.199 to Desperate Housewives or was there Do Not. 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:27.840 Passco, Do Not collectwo hundred. I don't remember. I've sort 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:32.319 of lost the timeline because I think we were well, 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.560 we were in New York and then Housewives obviously shot 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:38.400 it at Universal in LA. I think there was a 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:42.200 leg time, and I don't remember when I started. 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:45.840 Did people talk to you about Trey like, was it 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:47.800 uncomfortable because of the weird. 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:49.559 In New York? Yeah? I told me at the time. 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:50.120 I was like huh. 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:53.120 I was like, okay, I've had you know, that's been 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.400 from the beginning, you know. And I talked about New 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.560 Yorkers and how that you know, the occasional person sometimes 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:01.040 I would say, the dormant in New York. You know, 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.560 they're also you know, outspoken and you know, friendly and 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:05.680 kind of you know, would say, hey. 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:07.959 Buddy, good luck. I know you can do it, you 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:11.080 can get it, you know, thanks, hey, thank you, thank you, 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:11.680 mister Dorman. 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:15.240 Okay, you know stuff like that, right right, right occasionally, 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:18.920 you know, but it was, you know, you sort of 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.280 take it in stride and you know, a sense of humor, 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:25.040 and so for the most part, somebody you're like, yeah, right, 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:28.520 but really it's so, you know, it's fine. 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:30.520 Good and it was. Was it fine then or was 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:31.080 it annoying? 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:34.280 You know, it was it was annoying, yeah, actually, but honestly, 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:36.640 but at the same time, yeah, but as an actor, 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:38.680 you're like, you know, let's how do we find the 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.760 truth in this? He has an issue, he doesn't want 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.440 to deal with it. Together, they're trying to find a 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:48.000 way through this, and I sort of in my mind, 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:52.360 I said, well, maybe this indirectly will somehow help somebody, 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:54.280 or maybe they can talk about it with a friend. 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:56.520 I don't know, thinking there might be a there's a positive, 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:57.880 there's an upside here somewhere. 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:00.640 I think the shining truth on anything is good. 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:03.640 So the three people that I helped, I'm so I 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:07.800 hope that helped my embarrassing moment I mean that's. 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:09.080 The other thing that was interesting. 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:11.640 I mean, as the four of us, we all had 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:14.320 many problems, obviously, and they would you know, we would 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:16.480 fall down or did you get the pie in the face, 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:19.920 either literally or figuratively or whatever. Obviously, but we were 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.240 on there and we were you know, the show was 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:25.080 about us, right. But then for the guys often and 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:28.120 sometimes it would just be one episode, right like Bobby Kenavale. 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:32.160 Is in with the Bunk is punk. Bobby's a great actor, right, Yeah, 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:34.240 there were other ones that I felt, Okay, I didn't 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:35.720 have that totally. 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:38.760 Because like I I and sometimes I asked these guys 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:39.840 to come on the show, and then they don't want 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:40.280 to come the show. 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:41.680 And I'm so hurt that they don't want to come 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:43.560 the show, and that I realized what they have to 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:44.760 come on and be humiliated. 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.360 Never, I would never humiliate further. I would just give 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:50.640 them the time to talk about it, you know what 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:50.920 I mean. 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.040 They were such good sorts to come on, you know. 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:55.600 And that's true for you too, because of course I 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:57.960 don't even remember, like I had it on my Instagram. 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:00.760 I was like, I don't even remember why, Like why 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:03.560 did it end? And they were like, oh, there were 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:04.200 so many problems. 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:05.600 There was this, and there's that there, you know. 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:08.480 Kind of got to we got to find a way 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:09.920 out of this, because so they want to take you 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:12.000 on another journey obviously, you know, this one had kind 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:15.480 of and and honestly, that's say it has been two seasons, 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:17.240 I think, right, right, yeah, so it. 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:20.040 Was even clear I'm clear in my mind. Yeah, I mean, 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:21.880 certainly longer than five or four. 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:24.240 But I think, speaking earlier about that, one of the 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:26.440 strengths of the show you were talking about here everyone 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:29.040 had an issue, and I said, was that that they 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:34.120 presented these these wonderful, glamorous, fantastic friends, but they were human, yes, 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:38.600 you know, and everybody had issues that they were struggling through. Yes, 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:41.120 And so many people I'm sure watched the show to go, 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.800 oh God, I'm going through exactly the same thing, how 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:45.360 do I handle this? 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:45.760 You know? 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:47.640 I mean, I think that's true, and I also think 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.600 that it's like from what people tell me, because there's 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:53.480 also been these very interesting phases, like there's this phase 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:57.400 during COVID of like people saying that Carrie's awful and 0:16:57.440 --> 0:16:59.840 she's a narcissist. Think you've led too much time on 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:04.080 during COVID, And I remember one time, Sir just because 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:08.080 said like I just don't understand what is this online? 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:10.760 And I was like, I don't even think twice about it, 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:14.919 because basically, number one, you were a full character. That 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:19.280 was the point, right, Like, how would we have ever 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:21.960 gone on in the way that we have if she 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:24.879 was somehow worked out? You know what I'm saying, Like 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:28.160 nobody's really worked out anyway, right, But I think they 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:31.440 it's very unusual, like you will have Tony Soprano who 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:34.320 literally kills people but is the star of that show 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:37.119