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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristen Davis, and I want to know are

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Speaker 1: you a Charlotte?

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Speaker 2: We are back with are You a Charlotte?

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Speaker 1: We're going to continue with the fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Oh have so much fun. Thank you really doing this.

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Speaker 2: You're a great host. Well, you're so sweet. You're a

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Speaker 2: great guest, of course, and I can't wait to listen

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Speaker 2: to your podcast. Thank you, thank you. What are we

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Speaker 2: even doing? What are we even doing? What are we?

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Speaker 2: I know, and you can say the number of general ways.

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Speaker 2: I know what. I like that are we even doing?

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Speaker 2: What are we even doing? It depends on the moment,

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Speaker 2: depends on the day. Yeah, I like it. I like it.

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Speaker 1: What I didn't get to in my rewatch of last

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Speaker 1: night was when we go to Connecticut, which I don't

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Speaker 1: even know if we really.

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Speaker 2: Go to Connecticut. I think it's Bunny's house.

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Speaker 1: And we played tennis, which I have a lot of

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Speaker 1: photographs in my possession of us playing tennis. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know why. We must have had to take like

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Speaker 1: prop photos or something.

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Speaker 2: The tennis one sort of towards the end, right, it

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Speaker 2: must be.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't get that far, but like

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Speaker 1: I make up with the gardener apparently, which I thought

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Speaker 1: was a dream, but apparently it's real.

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Speaker 2: Ce. See, I don't remember everything accurately, do you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean?

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Speaker 1: It's like, what was Charlotte doing? Is it because we're

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Speaker 1: not having sex?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I haven't gotten to that part. Anyone know, Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: I think that's why. Yeah, but I mean, that's so sad.

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Speaker 2: Linked it out, That's okay. I did.

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Speaker 3: I did.

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Speaker 2: I banked it out. I liked it. I remember, and

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Speaker 2: I remember I remember this the tennis court.

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Speaker 3: I mean it was the same same sequence there, the

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Speaker 3: night shot, Yes, and I and I had gone out

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Speaker 3: because I was frust I was frustrated myself. I was

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Speaker 3: angry at myself and I couldn't do what I was

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Speaker 3: tennis lessons there at the Central Park. There's there was

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Speaker 3: a wonderful facility there. I didn't play tennis. I was like, okay,

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Speaker 3: and which I really didn't.

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Speaker 2: But you know, through this, so many times I was Charlotte, Yes,

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Speaker 3: Was there, and I remember because it was a warm

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Speaker 3: night and I was hitting balls and the the the

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Speaker 3: makeup ladies came over and they were like, you need

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Speaker 3: to be a little sweaty, and I was like okay.

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Speaker 3: And they started taking baby oil and loving it.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, that's the one right there. Look

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Speaker 3: And I was like, I said, I think this is

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Speaker 3: And I was like and they were like no, they

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Speaker 2: Like, look at you. Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: I was a young man right there, incredible. And I

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Speaker 3: was just like, I said, okay, I said, all right, whatever.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure all of the guys and all of the

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Speaker 1: girls having a great time.

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Speaker 2: Very like, I know, why don't with a gardener, why

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Speaker 2: don't I just try harder? Rageous?

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Speaker 3: You know, That's the whole thing is. He looks good

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Speaker 3: on the outside, but the inside it's just not working.

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Speaker 2: It's sad. It's so sad.

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Speaker 1: It's so funny though, because I only remember some of it,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there are a few moments that.

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Speaker 3: Like I remember, I remember the the scene in the bathtub.

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Speaker 2: With when Francis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in the maasth Hub and Franny is sitting

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Speaker 2: It's okay, you know, it's good, but it's not good

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I immediately recognized. I said, this is the

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Speaker 3: entire relationship in one scene, in one visual.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I said, that's true, and I think.

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Speaker 3: That we had And I said, no, give me a

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Speaker 3: I'm actually washing and we're chatting like everything is totally fine.

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Speaker 3: And I said, there's a brilliant moment. And the other

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Speaker 2: For a bed.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, three of us on the bed and it's good.

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Speaker 3: Just again, I'm like, there it is.

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Speaker 1: That's it's a good visual. I'll tell you what I

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Speaker 2: And it might have been Charles also.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing I want to about Charles before

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Speaker 1: Last night and so when when you switch from one

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Speaker 1: director to the next, you're like, oh, when it's someone new, right,

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Speaker 1: and they put in and he would do film us,

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Speaker 1: But then what I remember with us is when so

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Speaker 1: so you in Burgdorf you hand me, I say, oh,

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, Trey in the middle of burg Dwarf,

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Speaker 1: And and I've got Miranda look at you say, oh,

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Speaker 2: So I take it to Miranda.

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Speaker 1: And she's like, oh, well, this is interesting, you know,

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Speaker 2: And I mean rewatching. I didn't remember any of this,

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Speaker 1: But then where I didn't get to last night but

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Speaker 1: kind of like someone's like joking you like the pressure,

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Speaker 1: And I remember Jenny's trying to explain to me how

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Speaker 2: It's perfect? Actually that you brought all that into it?

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Speaker 3: Because that would that would be Charlotte.

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Speaker 2: She wouldn't come.

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Speaker 3: In, She wouldn't suddenly come in like hard heart, you

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Speaker 3: She is so everything that you're going through was perfect,

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Kyle. Perfect and the direct no, no, you're

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Speaker 2: A saying you're so good with people?

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Speaker 3: What about what about moving on? What about the whole

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, yes, insanity.

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Speaker 3: And my favorite, my favorite moment of all that was

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Speaker 3: And I said, years later, when I was playing golf

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Speaker 2: And then I would then I would go, oh, Okay,

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I just love it. He was so fun.

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Speaker 1: And so I'm sitting in like funny on like weird

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Speaker 1: But it's like the enthusiasm of Charlotte was inhabiting me,

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Speaker 2: And I'm just beaming.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited, so happy, and the girls are so mad.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's a crazy thing because rarely we're all all

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Speaker 2: It was somewhere in.

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Speaker 2: you know? And I was like, I'm so glad we

441
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Speaker 2: were there for you. I am like, we want to

442
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Speaker 2: be there for you, you know.

443
00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,960
Speaker 1: But the fact that you can feel like we're real

444
00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,800
Speaker 1: people is a testament to the fact that they wrote

445
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Speaker 1: us as flood real people.

446
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Speaker 2: You know.

447
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Speaker 1: And that was also that thing where the writers would

448
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,679
Speaker 1: have to have some basis of the story, right, And

449
00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,959
Speaker 1: you know what's interesting about that, I have never asked them.

450
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Speaker 1: I don't know who the basis for Trey was, like,

451
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Speaker 1: how they know, Like was there a person who had

452
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Speaker 1: some similar because usually their rules that they had to

453
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Speaker 1: have like one degree of separation from the story, right,

454
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Speaker 1: But I never asked because I was so in it,

455
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

456
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Speaker 3: Well, that was always the that was always the game, right,

457
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Speaker 3: It's like, who is this person exactly based upon h

458
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Speaker 3: the New York's you know exactly right?

459
00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,879
Speaker 2: Who is it? Do we know them? How well did

460
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Speaker 2: we know them? Are we going to have to talk

461
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Speaker 2: to them about this? On a red carpet at some point,

462
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Speaker 2: do you know what I mean?

463
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Speaker 1: And then also when we did, especially when we went

464
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Speaker 1: back to doing just like that, we would have to

465
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Speaker 1: figure out amongst ourselves which writer or writer's spouse this

466
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Speaker 1: was about, right, Oh my gosh, because they wouldn't always

467
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Speaker 1: tell us and we would just be like, do you.

468
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 2: Think that maybe this is about?

469
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Speaker 1: Because then you had to be careful with what you

470
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Speaker 1: might say or the questions you might ask, and you

471
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Speaker 1: needed to know which writer was going to have the best.

472
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Speaker 2: Information to give you. You know, I know, it's pretty.

473
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Speaker 3: Interesting incestuous, oh my lord, but in a good way,

474
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Speaker 3: right Listen. If you can't base things upon people that

475
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 3: you know and situations, is that that's what's the point.

476
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Speaker 3: That's what makes it so recognizable, identifiable, intriguing, interesting, compelling.

477
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Speaker 1: Absolutely which makes me want to ask you about Overcompensating.

478
00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,640
Speaker 2: Oh yes, it's so much fun.

479
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 3: Benny Benny, Benita Skinner, Ben Benny drama. But he is

480
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Speaker 3: such a lovely, lovely man.

481
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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh is so Yeah.

482
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Speaker 3: Over Compensating was a really really a fun experience. Benny

483
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Speaker 3: and Scott King, who kind of helped him, from what

484
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Speaker 3: I understand, helped kind of mentor him through this process

485
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Speaker 3: of writing and telling his story, his story of coming out.

486
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Speaker 3: Was it was just such a remember reading the script

487
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Speaker 3: and thinking, this is really funny. Yes, and I love

488
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Speaker 3: that every character had a very distinct voice and you

489
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Speaker 3: could see it.

490
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Speaker 1: You know.

491
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Speaker 3: It was a very visual script, so those are so

492
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Speaker 3: nice when you can you see the action as you're reading.

493
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Speaker 3: And I love the idea of the character of the dad,

494
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Speaker 3: and and it was just, I mean, all across the board,

495
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Speaker 3: just the greatest experience. We shot up in Toronto for

496
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Speaker 3: long and thinking long for my parts were just kind

497
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Speaker 3: of isolated, you know. And Connie Britten was the was

498
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Speaker 3: and she was great. I was such a big fan

499
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Speaker 3: of hers, and I just felt we have we created

500
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Speaker 3: between me playing his father and her Asmus the mom.

501
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Speaker 3: We had this relationship that was that was interesting and

502
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Speaker 3: and ridiculous and completely understandable from being together for so

503
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Speaker 3: many years that we're both going kind of different directions.

504
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Speaker 3: We're both we both love and hate each other.

505
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Speaker 2: You know. It was very felt, very true. Nice. I

506
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Speaker 2: loved it. I loved it. You're very funny.

507
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 1: You're out there man, and you're on some some show

508
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Speaker 1: that I haven't watched with Ethan Hawk.

509
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Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, down enjoy Yeah, really good.

510
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Speaker 3: So it's it's set We're sett in Tulsa and I'm

511
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Speaker 3: a I'm a gentleman, I'm running for governor. I'm come

512
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Speaker 3: from a very wealthy money family. And Ethan plays an

513
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Speaker 3: investigative reporter who's kind of in his own words, is

514
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Speaker 3: is a truth is a truth story and okay, so

515
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Speaker 3: he's all about telling the truth of Tulsa. And of

516
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Speaker 3: course Tulso has a very interesting past, and he is

517
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Speaker 3: Ethan is really wonderful. And he worked with Sterlin Parjoe,

518
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Speaker 3: who is our director, who had directed Reservation Dogs res

519
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Speaker 3: Dogs as they call it, which I had seen and

520
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Speaker 3: was remarkable. Also said in Tulsa he's local there, interesting

521
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Speaker 3: and so he wrote the script and this idea and

522
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 3: worked closely with Ethan, and then I came in. This

523
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Speaker 3: is my fourth time working with Ethan, which is.

524
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Speaker 2: So much fun. Yeah, I really enjoyed anything. He's so

525
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Speaker 2: great gat.

526
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Speaker 3: I know what I think I like him about the

527
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Speaker 3: most is the fact that his process is so collaborative

528
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Speaker 3: and that the ultimate goal is to make the scene

529
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Speaker 3: the best it can be, which means that he's rooting

530
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Speaker 3: for his you know, the actor who's there also with him,

531
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Speaker 3: or actors or situations, how to make the scene better,

532
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Speaker 3: and if it means, you know, doing something else that

533
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Speaker 3: he hadn't planned to do, he's like, all on board,

534
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Speaker 3: let's let's make it the best.

535
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Speaker 2: And he and I.

536
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Speaker 3: Worked really well together because we both have that kind

537
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Speaker 3: of vibe, you know. Yeah, And it's on right now

538
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 3: and a really good It's a great character for me.

539
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 3: I get to play again someone who you think you

540
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Speaker 3: know who is at the very beginning, and then he

541
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Speaker 3: turns into something else towards you.

542
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Speaker 2: Interesting and cool. Cast can't wait to watch it? Yeah,

543
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 2: I think you'll enjoy it. Okay. Then I want to

544
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 2: talk about TikTok and the podcast. Yes what It's good?

545
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 2: Are you up to over there? What am I even doing?

546
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 3: Well? The podcast is called what are We Even Doing?

547
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 3: And I completely agree.

548
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: It's very like in life. In life, it's all.

549
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Speaker 3: About so I I yes, So I've started social I've

550
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Speaker 3: got this.

551
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Speaker 2: You're out out there. I mean, people are into.

552
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Speaker 3: It, engaging. I love the creative parts of social media.

553
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 3: That's how I treat it. And it's really for me.

554
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 3: It's about fun and entertainment. Occasionally I'll point to, you know,

555
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Speaker 3: a cause or a person that I think is like, hey,

556
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Speaker 3: this person's doing something great. But really it's about making

557
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Speaker 3: people laugh. And I have a wonderful I have a

558
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Speaker 3: wonderful crew. So Desrae Gruber, my wife's a picture and

559
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Speaker 3: the chief content officer who's with us today and Walls

560
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 3: is her here, and she has a junior staff as

561
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 3: well of young creatives, brilliant creatives, and so we work

562
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Speaker 3: together on this.

563
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 2: So it's a collaborative process.

564
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Speaker 3: I'm you know, very engaged and very involved in kind

565
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Speaker 3: of up for anything they bring me.

566
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Speaker 1: Ideas and Kyle so impress, it's all good.

567
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Speaker 3: I think there was might even have been a reference

568
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Speaker 3: to a cardboard baby at one point in time in

569
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Speaker 3: the past.

570
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: Oh yes, maybe that one.

571
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 3: We dig deep, We dig deep. So that's been really fun.

572
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 3: And then that sort of led into this because it's

573
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Speaker 3: very much a connection with a younger generation, right, and

574
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Speaker 3: so that sorted opening up the idea like maybe there's

575
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Speaker 3: a way that I can sort of infiltrate this world

576
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Speaker 3: and begin to understand what's happening with them, with with

577
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Speaker 3: the young millenniums. Someone to understand we need an interpreter. Yeah, interpreter,

578
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Speaker 3: I brought a glossy. This is a man on the street,

579
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Speaker 3: very excited. Yeah, and I've got some I've got some

580
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Speaker 3: shield not. Let's see the generations there are. There are

581
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 3: definitely the slang. You've probably heard about that. I have

582
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 3: a fourteen year old Okay, so you are very aware

583
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Speaker 3: of the slang.

584
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Speaker 2: I mean some of it.

585
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 3: I could I could, actually, I could ask you a

586
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 3: couple of questions about some of the words and see.

587
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Speaker 2: If you okay, ahead, go ahead. Chopped would be a

588
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: good word. Chopped, Okay, hold on, I feel like I

589
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 2: should know this.

590
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 3: It kind of I mean, it's I think it's a

591
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Speaker 3: positive eludes.

592
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 2: It actually not okay, oh dear, I'm bad. You are

593
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 2: definitely not chopped.

594
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: I'm not chopped, okay, so that's a good thing to

595
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: not be chopped.

596
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 2: Chop is ugly, ugly, Yeah, saying the word ugly. That's right.

597
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 2: It's chopped. Okay, okay, thank you. It's a little bit

598
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: like rhyming slang. You know, one word and something else

599
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 2: is another good one. I just heard this recently too.

600
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 2: You're up on it, babe, I don't know. Just come

601
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 2: this directly. I'm coming right too. Wow, I love it,

602
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. Once funk is old. Yeah,

603
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 2: so I'm approaching. I'm approaching. I think we're both compared

604
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 2: to these you are not.

605
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 3: Then there's a very interesting one, which is can I

606
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 3: say this boy or soft boy?

607
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: You know I have heard this. I literally still feel

608
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 2: like I do not know the definition.

609
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 3: Well this, this came directly from Geraldine, this one Nathan

610
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 3: who was a guest on my on my podcast, and

611
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 3: and the boy is someone that is very clearly there

612
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 3: for one thing and one thing only.

613
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 2: Well, that's pretty si right, very very straightforward. Soft boy.

614
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: On the other hand, if I if I'm understanding this correctly,

615
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 3: I may be corrected online. We'll find out soft boy

616
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 3: comes across as like very gentle and it's got all your.

617
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 2: But he's not. But he's not.

618
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 3: He's in there for one thing. So it's a wolf.

619
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 3: It's a wolf in sheep's clothes.

620
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah, okay, okay, this is super interesting.

621
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so I you know, yeah, some of the

622
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 2: some of those things.

623
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Speaker 3: You know, there's others de Lulu of course, brain rot

624
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Speaker 3: cap cap.

625
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

626
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: I find bit confusing. I don't know why we need

627
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 1: that word for that. But okay, yeah, no, I think

628
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: it's this is this is all good.

629
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Speaker 2: I've had. The one that I really love is put

630
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 2: the fries in the bag? What does that mean? It

631
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 2: just means ended with the fries in the bag. Let's go.

632
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to use that. I'm going to use

633
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: that because I need my kids to move quicker.

634
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 2: Well that's what you put the fries in the I'm

635
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 2: gonna do it. God, I haven't been No. Oh, I

636
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 2: love it.

637
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: I have the situation now where my fourteen year old

638
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: does not want to hear about six seven, but my

639
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: seven year old does.

640
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: Seven makes sense? Yeah, yes, but it's sort of nonsense

641
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 2: from what I understand. It's definitely not sent here too.

642
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: But they were so into it in the summer, especially

643
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: like in the summer, I had girls over for my

644
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: daughter's birthday.

645
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 2: They made a six seven cookie.

646
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, why explain.

647
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 3: Here's the here's the news on the six seven. Yes

648
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 3: you say it's group seven, okay, breaking gen z news. Okay, yeah,

649
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 3: group seven. That's okay, thank you. So that's what I've

650
00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 3: got so far.

651
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: But I'm going to coind I like it.

652
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: I like it Okay, so when people come on the podcast,

653
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: they help you with these things.

654
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some sayings that they come up in a

655
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 3: cop but really I'm there too. I'm really there because

656
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: I'm curious. It's all about the creative process for me,

657
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 3: and some sorts of conversation like we're having, you know,

658
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 3: based upon what they what they're doing or what they're

659
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 3: about to do, and where they come from. It's like

660
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: how they started, what's what's important with their authenticity of course,

661
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 3: and also talking a little bit about you know, kind

662
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 3: of kind of just whatever whatever moves them, you know

663
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 3: what I mean, and how they use social and so

664
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 3: this is all this is part of an exploration and

665
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 3: a conversation. And I realized, you know, I know, and

666
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 3: you're probably the same way. I know my mentors. I

667
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 3: know the people that I admired growing up, you.

668
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 2: Know, James Dean and.

669
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 3: These were people in Monty Cliff. These were people that

670
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 3: I read everything about wanted to emulate. And I'm like,

671
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 3: I realized, I don't have I don't look back and

672
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 3: sort of see who's coming up that I really am

673
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 3: aware of.

674
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 2: Or respond to.

675
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 3: And so I've started to that's a point wonderful interview

676
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 3: with Dylan O'Brien, young actor who I really admire, and

677
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 3: you know, it's just an opportunity to speak to them about, Hey,

678
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 3: what how are you finding this journey that we're on

679
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 3: as artists.

680
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good, Yeah, that's great fun.

681
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: Well, that's partly what I love about Marybeth and Benny.

682
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: You know, like to see young people where they're self made,

683
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: they just found their own way. Like Benny on you know.

684
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: Instagram, initially first started on.

685
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: Kardashians like wow, and then had the forethought to put

686
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: it on YouTube.

687
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 2: It's incredible.

688
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: And Marybeth, I mean they were both stand ups, which

689
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: I didn't really realize, but you know, like Benny kind

690
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: of like just creatively found that way and then here

691
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: he is also able to do the more traditional media.

692
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: So obviously he had Scott King help, which is great,

693
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: but like just his own story, you know, it's really

694
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: it's so impressive.

695
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 2: It is impressive.

696
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 3: And the way they're using social media to self generate, Yes,

697
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 3: and it's it's really easy. It's amazing, and it's hard work. Yes,

698
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 3: have a social presence. I'm discovering it's hard work because if.

699
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: You're just by yourself. I mean, first of all, like,

700
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: oh man, I rely on my ladies.

701
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: They're here, but you know, like because you can't research

702
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: all the trends and everything.

703
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: And when they first came over, I mean I didn't

704
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: sleep the night before. I was so nervous. Yeah, I

705
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: was like, what am I going to do? I had

706
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: to clean the house because we're not used to just

707
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 2: filming in our houses, are Charlotte.

708
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 3: I mean it's just I've been realizing all along, you know,

709
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 3: I had to clean the house. That is so funny.

710
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 3: Do you clean before the cleaners come? Do you do

711
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: that kind of thing?

712
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: Sometimes? Sometimes to relax.

713
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: Now that I have two children, I relaxed. Everything was

714
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: different before the kids. Before the kids, by me, you

715
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: were spotless, yes, and I mean there was no clutter right,

716
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: and I loved it. It was fantastic. I'm trying to

717
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: get back giving up. Yeah, I did pretty much give up.

718
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: And now I'm like, this is stressing me out.

719
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

720
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: You know, I find that if I have one space

721
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: in my house that is uncluttered, and so I had

722
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 3: a little gym that was my garage and that's kind

723
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 3: of my space. Nice However, Yeah, because I don't have

724
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 3: any other place to sort of put stuff. Oh, inevitably

725
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 3: I find there's three boxes in here that I did

726
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 3: not put in here, And I've become really and I'm like,

727
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 3: excuse me, these have to be removed right now. That's

728
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 3: all I need is one area.

729
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: I've lost all my areas. My areas are gone. I mean,

730
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: I have this house. I got this bigger house when

731
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: I when I had the second, when I adopted him,

732
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: got this bigger house so that everyone could have space.

733
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: That was my idea that we'd have.

734
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: A playroom, you know, with the toys, because at my

735
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: old house, like I was living under toys. You know,

736
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: it just like takes over, takes over. So I got

737
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: this playroom and I was like, the toys are going

738
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: to stay in the playroom.

739
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: Weill not.

740
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: So no one told the seven year old, right, So

741
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: now I've got like, you know, these bay blades.

742
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 2: What the heck was your son not into these?

743
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 3: A weird thing is at the top, you know, for

744
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 3: a moment, Yeah, for a moment, he had a thing

745
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 3: really appealed to me.

746
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: He had other stuff, But here's the dog. It's like

747
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: a situation.

748
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: You've got them everywhere, Okay, Yeah, and then we've got

749
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: Legos everywhere.

750
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: Legos, yeah, oh my god. And then we've got still

751
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 2: toy cars.

752
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, toy cars. I'll still stay forever Legos, in fact,

753
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: stay forever.

754
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: Which I mean, Legos are great, right, my son still

755
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: loves like pain. I love Legos.

756
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I do sit down and do Legos.

757
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: My son thinks I'm mad at it, and he tells

758
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: me you are not good at las.

759
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: They have a facility about it that they can. They

760
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: look at the thing.

761
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: Which I think is great. They're building, right, They're building.

762
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: Building is great. But I guess I'm not that good

763
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: at it. But also I look at it as like resting, right,

764
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: like Mommy is going to rest a little and build

765
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: a wall.

766
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 2: You build, You build characters, that's what you do. That's

767
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: so sweet. I try. I do my best. Man, it's

768
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: not easy. It's not easy. Man. Well the toy thing

769
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 2: does it does eventually move. I can't wait.

770
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: I mean, we're at a point where we've got the

771
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: little toys that need to go.

772
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 2: But see, I need some help. I need some help.

773
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 3: I wish when I was because I had two younger

774
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 3: brothers and growing up and we had that was kind

775
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 3: of the advent of hot wheels.

776
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and had.

777
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 3: Tons of hot wheels, first run hot wheels, oh wow,

778
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 3: which my mom didn't keep them, no goodwill.

779
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: And which I understood. You know, there's a lot of toys.

780
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 2: You know, we had a lot of toys.

781
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 3: But I do think back on some of the early games,

782
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: and I said, I wish we had the original.

783
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do with it.

784
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 3: Honestly, I know you'd have to have somewhere, but I'd

785
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 3: be like, I know, I know.

786
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 2: I'm with you.

787
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: I have this memory game that I had as a

788
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: child and is so vintage, and somehow the pairs are

789
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: in there. And seven year old has discovered the memory game.

790
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: So now at six a m. When the coffee hasn't

791
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: really hit, I have to play the memory game. But

792
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is good. This is good for you know,

793
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: anti dementia.

794
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: It's impossible, yeah, yes, yes, that's impossible.

795
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: But it's also like these vintage seventies cards, which is

796
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: like just kind of a miracle. Yeah right, So it

797
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: does make you really when something survives, you know.

798
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: You appreciate it.

799
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: But you know what I realized, I forgot to ask you, Kyle,

800
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: are you a Charlotte.

801
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 3: Yes, definitely, yeah, yeah, without question love it. Yeah, you

802
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 3: don't even.

803
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: Have to think yeah, yes, yes, I feel you are too.

804
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: I just wanted to double check. Oh yeah, and it's

805
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: my official thing I have to do, right, Yes, of course, absolutely, thank.

806
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: You, Charlotte. Yeah, Kyle, your dream. That was so much fun.

807
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 2: I know, thank you for being here and you needed

808
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 2: to come back. I will come back. I really enjoyed it.

809
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 3: It's so fun to rehash with you and hear your

810
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 3: perspective on things, and you too have those memories and

811
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 3: also you remembered a lot I did, okay, right saying

812
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 3: before your prompts.

813
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: Were very good. Thank you, thank you very good. But there, yeah,

814
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 2: I remember quite.

815
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 3: It was such a really it was a wonderful period

816
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 3: of time in my life, and I really enjoyed I was.

817
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: I felt like I was on our really special shows

818
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: and you were, and we're so lucky that you were

819
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: with us. Thank you.

820
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: M