Speaker 1: What's up this lip service? I'm angela yee, I'm g
Speaker 1: g Maguire, Jordi.
Speaker 2: Geor, I'm sorry, Prior Graves.
Speaker 3: Two of them, Like, that's definitely like two of them
Speaker 3: right this maybe four?
Speaker 1: You could see? This is this a normal size? Like
Speaker 1: what would you call that? A?
Speaker 4: Uh? This is right? This is this is normal?
Speaker 5: Okay, it's normal for him. Okay, that's a lot we
Speaker 5: what is that the whole the whole eighth in the
Speaker 5: the the whole eighth and that.
Speaker 1: Thing look heavy?
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, all right, well for the next two times,
Speaker 6: it's back guys, okay, and a lot has happened since
Speaker 6: he was here for the first time.
Speaker 1: What what you got to say? What I'm a man now?
Speaker 1: He said, that's right?
Speaker 4: You yeah?
Speaker 1: Right or wrong?
Speaker 4: You are right?
Speaker 3: Okay, because last time Finesse two times is here he
Speaker 3: told us about you know, he had a couple of
Speaker 3: ladies and now you kind of changed your mind and
Speaker 3: said you want to be with just one?
Speaker 4: Is that? Yeah? But then I had went back to two,
Speaker 4: but I just recently got back to one.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So now that's why Actually Zuri Prior Graves, she has
Speaker 3: a flight to catch, so she's here four minutes. So
Speaker 3: I want to focus the first part of this interview
Speaker 3: because I saw you have put on social media that
Speaker 3: you were thinking about therapy, right, And Zuri is she
Speaker 3: is she does a lot of intimacy. She helps people
Speaker 3: on set, So she's worked on a lot of really
Speaker 3: big TV shows and movies helping people when they have
Speaker 3: like the you know, the sex scenes, intimate scenes, but
Speaker 3: anything that could be like potentially uncomfortable. He had to
Speaker 3: make sure that everybody's safe and taking care of. But
Speaker 3: you also, Zuri, are, you know, a clinician and a
Speaker 3: therapist and a sex therapist, a sex educator, sex educator.
Speaker 2: Educator, sex therapists.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think sometimes people go through things, especially
Speaker 3: and I would say especially men, because women we're I
Speaker 3: feel like most of us are a lot quicker to
Speaker 3: be like this happened, you know, I'm heartbroken, da da da,
Speaker 3: I cried, And men more act like they're good, you know,
Speaker 3: between when certain situations happen, and so sometimes men will
Speaker 3: be a lot less likely to look for outside help,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think my lack of intimacy come
Speaker 4: from just being incocerated, like just being locked up, like
Speaker 4: not being intimate at all, coming up, not getting out
Speaker 4: a whole lot of kisses and hoogs. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. But it ain't
Speaker 4: no shade or nothing. It's just life, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I think a lot of us come up.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, come from where I come from.
Speaker 4: We come up and it's tough love. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I think this where I get my tough
Speaker 4: love from, like even for my keys, for my women.
Speaker 4: But what she's speaking on is like I want to
Speaker 4: come out of the phase like I want to come out.
Speaker 4: I want to be more more intimate, like more of
Speaker 4: the all type of like I did, Like I want
Speaker 4: to counter of be like I want. I want to
Speaker 4: be like that. I try a lot, I try hard like,
Speaker 4: and I do it in front of people. I do
Speaker 4: it like, I try real hard like. But it's still
Speaker 4: like cringey sometimes to me, Like it's cringe just to
Speaker 4: like hug people like it's still it's still it's still
Speaker 4: weird to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I say something, I think like you said you
Speaker 2: do it in front of people, and that was the
Speaker 2: only accolade that you assigned to what you just said.
Speaker 2: Does it feel performative, Like is.
Speaker 1: It like you when you are meditating.
Speaker 2: Not necessarily premeditated, but it's not necessarily for you or
Speaker 2: for that you are trying to show those worlds like this, yeah,
Speaker 2: actively like you're trying to show in those.
Speaker 4: Moments because when it's happening, like it feel fake, like
Speaker 4: feel it don't feel genuine, Like but I don't know
Speaker 4: what a genuine hoog is, Like I don't know what,
Speaker 4: Like it could be tight, it could be it could
Speaker 4: be whatever, Like I still feel like it's not genuine.
Speaker 4: I don't know, Like like I could tell the difference
Speaker 4: between a handshake if somebody is being a genuine or not, Like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I can I know when like handshakes with no eye
Speaker 4: contact and you know stuff like but hugs like they different,
Speaker 4: it's more intimate, it's more so. It's kind of like
Speaker 4: what about kissing, I can only kiss like the woman
Speaker 4: that don't with Like I can't kiss like that, Like
Speaker 4: I'm already like I'm not a big Like I'm not
Speaker 4: big on it, not because oh home food, not the
Speaker 4: type of shit, Like it's just like I just can't.
Speaker 5: What about kissing in a non intimate way when it
Speaker 5: comes to family and your children.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm talking about. Why are you talking about
Speaker 4: I'm talking about both ways, Like I'm talking about around
Speaker 4: around like like like like I can do it to
Speaker 4: my my new my new born baby like this here,
Speaker 4: like this the most ever, the most intimate ever, being
Speaker 4: like right, but like we had a home birth, so
Speaker 4: I pulled her. I ain't gonna say pull it out,
Speaker 4: but I like I was like I pulled it, like
Speaker 4: I got her, and it was like like out of
Speaker 4: all my kids, I'd never seen a birth before. Yes,
Speaker 4: so it was like it was super exciting to me.
Speaker 1: And it was like uh in like a different type
Speaker 1: of bond.
Speaker 4: Like I literally like stirred in one spot for probably
Speaker 4: like sixty seconds. Like when she came out and I
Speaker 4: gave it to a moment, it was like a stuck
Speaker 4: moment like I ain't hear nothing, I ain't really see nothing.
Speaker 4: It was like I seen life come into the world
Speaker 4: that was different from me, Like that's real to see
Speaker 4: a human come out of another may're a woman pregnant,
Speaker 4: like okay, she's pregnant, but to see it actually come
Speaker 4: out like.
Speaker 1: This is life, like she're and how many children do
Speaker 1: you have now?
Speaker 4: Five?
Speaker 1: Five?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's different and it's and it's like you know,
Speaker 4: and you know, I don't want to kiss no shade
Speaker 4: later on from my other kids. But it's just it's
Speaker 4: just super different, Like I think about it every day
Speaker 4: all day, Like it's just super different from me.
Speaker 1: So you feel like that changed something in you.
Speaker 4: It might like the intimacy, like I'm able to be
Speaker 4: a little bit more like affectionate.
Speaker 6: It's vulnerability too, because I'm the same way with kissing
Speaker 6: and hugging my everybody, Like I'm the worst hugger ever,
Speaker 6: And it's a level of vulnerabiley.
Speaker 4: Though, like just now, like I feel it.
Speaker 6: It's like a protection thing, you know, because that's where
Speaker 6: our heart is.
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 1: So it's like a natural thing to be like.
Speaker 3: And I think sometimes when you come up in this
Speaker 3: world with a lot of like fake love around you,
Speaker 3: it's hard to feel like something that feels genuine cause
Speaker 3: there's so many times where things that you thought was
Speaker 3: real aren't. Yeah, and then it kind of makes you
Speaker 3: jaded where nothing seems like how do I know? This
Speaker 3: might feel real right now, but then later on when
Speaker 3: I look back at it.
Speaker 4: This wasn't it's like, nah, it's if you look at
Speaker 4: it like that, it's like you ain't being fir like
Speaker 4: to yourself if you aks me, because like but I'm
Speaker 4: I've been a victim of it, like it ain't fur though,
Speaker 4: like y, I can feel a certain way because this
Speaker 4: person made me mad and they was faking. They hoogs
Speaker 4: and they cry as one genuine and I take it
Speaker 4: out on there body else, Right, I do that, right,
Speaker 4: I tend to do that. Like but as I'm as
Speaker 4: I as I grow and I'm getting older, I'm starting
Speaker 4: to give like a person they own chance, like you
Speaker 4: got your own chance, Like I decided that everybody and
Speaker 4: everything I'd have been through, even with men, like it's
Speaker 4: shit that I hadn't been through with close partners. This
Speaker 4: this this like damn, I never thought, bruh do me
Speaker 4: like that? But then I can't go look at him
Speaker 4: like that, right, I can't go look at it.
Speaker 1: It's not normal.
Speaker 3: And you can't judge everybody else based off of what
Speaker 3: somebody else did because we are all different trauma.
Speaker 4: And I'm trying to I'm at peace and I'm trying
Speaker 4: to stay at peace, and I understand that dealing with
Speaker 4: past trauma's count of damons creep up, So I count
Speaker 4: of try to stay away from what do.
Speaker 3: You think, Sarry, because I really wanted you to be
Speaker 3: here to at least start this conversation.
Speaker 2: There so many different things you just said, But I think,
Speaker 2: like if we just go off of what you just
Speaker 2: said in terms of trauma, I think we hear that
Speaker 2: word and we think it's such a big word, and
Speaker 2: like if somebody says trauma, it's this huge thing that
Speaker 2: happened and you're gonna have this reaction, And all that
Speaker 2: trauma is in the little moments too. You know, if
Speaker 2: you do something or you're somewhere and all of a
Speaker 2: sudden you have a gut reaction that just doesn't necessarily
Speaker 2: make sense for that moment. A lot of times that
Speaker 2: that's trauma, like being able to be self aware enough
Speaker 2: to notice those itty bitty little things, like when you're
Speaker 2: going to go hug someone and that hug doesn't feel
Speaker 2: quite right. It might be something about that person, or
Speaker 2: it might be something about the way they hug you,
Speaker 2: and it's triggering something you don't even you can't even
Speaker 2: make that connection to it first until you do the
Speaker 2: work and being It's like one of those things is
Speaker 2: people talk about changing and being like, oh, I've done
Speaker 2: the work and I'm better. It's like, no, the work
Speaker 2: is continuous and there's no better. It's all about using
Speaker 2: and there's no changing you. You are who you are
Speaker 2: depending on.
Speaker 1: How old you are. The experiences that you had, they
Speaker 1: are what they are, and you have good days and
Speaker 1: you'll have bad days.
Speaker 2: But it's working with those things. You know, you don't
Speaker 2: have to necessarily change.
Speaker 3: And I think being in prison too and coming home
Speaker 3: after that, like the way that people are treated in
Speaker 3: prison is so different.
Speaker 4: Then it's just it's very I've been a like it's
Speaker 4: just real, like no contact like we on live service.
Speaker 4: I could talk, yeah, even like young when I was younger,
Speaker 4: like just from not have getting it them hoogs and kisses,
Speaker 4: like I never was able to have six missionary til
Speaker 4: I was older.
Speaker 1: Right where you're like looking at somebody and.
Speaker 4: It's not just because I don't want to, because I
Speaker 4: learned that that's one of a women's favorite position is
Speaker 4: to do it right, Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: But this one of women's like they say, dog, I
Speaker 4: couldn't do it. Maybe from the side.
Speaker 3: Okay, And you went to jail the first time when
Speaker 3: you were fourteen, when you were so imagine at fourteen
Speaker 3: years old, all the things that you didn't learn.
Speaker 4: So it's thick. It's thick, and I'm I'm catching up now,
Speaker 4: like to where like my girl asked me for kids
Speaker 4: out of nowhere, it's like, huh, like but you like that,
Speaker 4: but I like it, Like no, But one thing I
Speaker 4: learned had you got to tell a person what you're
Speaker 4: going through. So I communicate and be very big on
Speaker 4: communication because I want a person to know who I am,
Speaker 4: so you would know how to handle men, right, so
Speaker 4: you would know because now you don't handle me like
Speaker 4: I'm telling you I'm fucked up. I'm already telling you this,
Speaker 4: so now you know. And she she she helped me, like, hey,
Speaker 4: but give me a kid, like we could be here
Speaker 4: where I'd be like like it's cool, Like it's cool,
Speaker 4: but the average you know, I'm still growing on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's we're all in progress in this room, even
Speaker 3: you know. But I do want to say, even when
Speaker 3: you came up on lip servers the first time, you
Speaker 3: definitely were like, you know, not trying to be in
Speaker 3: a monogamous relationship either and so now that is something
Speaker 3: that you want or.
Speaker 4: No, Yeah, I mean like I'm leaving everything in her court.
Speaker 4: Like she's very like she like she she can fall
Speaker 4: in love with a woman like my girl wanted them
Speaker 4: type of people, like she can love a woman like
Speaker 4: for her as her love.
Speaker 5: So just to have some clarity from the last time
Speaker 5: we spoke, there were two. One was more of like
Speaker 5: the main girl or the first girl. This is still
Speaker 5: that she were speaking of.
Speaker 4: Yes, she's still She's still around. She never lived like
Speaker 4: she never she went through everything like I know, y'all
Speaker 4: see a lot of crazy shit about it, like and
Speaker 4: she went through, she went through, She went through the
Speaker 4: trials and tribulations, she went through the storm like you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, And I gotta, I gotta, I
Speaker 4: gotta see we got a little time. I got a
Speaker 4: baby mama that I had fell in little with, like
Speaker 4: you know what I saying when I was young, because
Speaker 4: she she helped me out the streets. She helped me
Speaker 4: get out the streets. And and I was just telling
Speaker 4: her that I was I was gonna get better because
Speaker 4: I was striving to be better, like and I was
Speaker 4: just telling him get on my ship, i'na be better.
Speaker 4: You know, I was broke, fucked up, I ain't got
Speaker 4: nowhere to stay here, I ain't got an I d
Speaker 4: like you know, it was that bad. Like you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I feel like the girl who here now,
Speaker 4: I feel like she she she was able to deal
Speaker 4: with everything like it wasn't easy for like, and that's
Speaker 4: what I respected, because she put up a fight. It
Speaker 4: wasn't just no old fuck it, you know, just because
Speaker 4: I'm put up and I can you know I could
Speaker 4: do what I want to do that you know, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna let you do what you want to do.
Speaker 4: She wasn't quiet at all, Like she put up a fight,
Speaker 4: like she.
Speaker 1: Was getting into it.
Speaker 4: And it made me understand that that that you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, that you know that she care.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, because I was wonder that
Speaker 3: like for a guy, if you put a woman through
Speaker 3: so much and she still stays sometimes I'm like, is
Speaker 3: he gonna ever stop?
Speaker 5: Nah?
Speaker 4: I mean, if I'm gonna be honest with you, it's
Speaker 4: me and it's me and not her, Like I ain't
Speaker 4: I don't know all I know is that I always
Speaker 4: had a person dream of being a specific type of man.
Speaker 4: And you know what I'm saying, And I knew I
Speaker 4: was gonna have to grow into it.
Speaker 1: But like what type of man if you have to say,
Speaker 1: what is that?
Speaker 4: Like? Like loyal? Just you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 4: what helped me was that my girl love women. So
Speaker 4: so I'm just saying, Honey, I'm just gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 4: be one hundred percent every man want to fuck another bitch.
Speaker 1: You think, so.
Speaker 4: Listen, listen, Brol I'm gonna tell you, I feel like
Speaker 4: every woman in this world. Y'all might call it sharing
Speaker 4: a nigga, y'all might call it whatever y'all want to
Speaker 4: call it. If you was to at least if you ain't,
Speaker 4: even if you're not gay, even if you was to,
Speaker 4: let that man, let that man have fun with you
Speaker 4: every blue moon. He'll appreciate that. Me, I think I'm
Speaker 4: coming off for So it's like me and my girl,
Speaker 4: like I ain't cheating in a long time, though you have.
Speaker 1: It's a long time.
Speaker 4: Shell for a man, A long time in nine months,
Speaker 4: a year.
Speaker 1: Okay, So.
Speaker 4: It's been a long time since I want to hear.
Speaker 2: I'm hearing so oh my gosh, so many different things. No,
Speaker 2: but I mean no, but thank you for being honest.
Speaker 2: I think that's I mean, your journey is It says
Speaker 2: a lot about you that you are in this place
Speaker 2: where you're able to communicate these things about yourself. Ask
Speaker 2: for what you need, ask for what you want. I
Speaker 2: do think there is always something really interesting when people
Speaker 2: get into the narrative around like this girl did so
Speaker 2: many different things. They were there, Like you're talking about
Speaker 2: the woman who was there and she withstood all this
Speaker 2: other stuff? Is that a trauma response? Because you are
Speaker 2: attracted to the person who you put through the most.
Speaker 1: The person you love, but you put her through the most.
Speaker 2: Right, And then it's it's it's like, where does that
Speaker 2: come from? What does that need to do that?
Speaker 4: I feel like I told her these two days ago,
Speaker 4: I promise, like I just told her. I told her,
Speaker 4: I said, I wish, I wish you would have never
Speaker 4: met me, like when I first came home, Like because
Speaker 4: I don't feel like you deserve Like even though you
Speaker 4: might not be rich, you might not be known, you
Speaker 4: might not be perfect, Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You probably had your share of me in or whatever.
Speaker 4: But you you're You're the perfect woman for me, Like
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, like from where I come from,
Speaker 4: Like you know, just the respect and being feminine. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm from Memphis, so we got a lot of aggressive women,
Speaker 4: a lot of women who.
Speaker 1: They that in New York a lot too. I just
Speaker 1: wonder they saying cause like they was like all.
Speaker 4: The street nigga slang. So it's like like so I like,
Speaker 4: like you could be the baddest bitch and say hey bro,
Speaker 4: it's a total turn off. So she one hundred percent feminine,
Speaker 4: like she cooked clean without me axing. I can ask,
Speaker 4: like I can be Finna say hey my shirt knee
Speaker 4: earn and look and his earn like like this type
Speaker 4: of woman she is. Like So it was like her
Speaker 4: just being.
Speaker 1: There for me, and then what do you do in return?
Speaker 4: I'm like I'm giving her like like me like she
Speaker 4: getting she getting me like and I'm I'm here for her.
Speaker 3: Like let me ask you this because and ZERI may
Speaker 3: not know this, but and this was very public and
Speaker 3: you talked about this. You recently found out a baby
Speaker 3: you thought was yours was not yours.
Speaker 1: Right, you did a.
Speaker 3: DNA test, well, your mom did, and then that's what
Speaker 3: led you to realizing that how did she react? How
Speaker 3: did your your lady react to that news? Also with you,
Speaker 3: like what did she say?
Speaker 4: I said yesterday, I wasn't gonna talk about this normal, right,
Speaker 4: because I feel like it's trauma. Like the average the
Speaker 4: everage baby dad that might be able to say, oh shit,
Speaker 4: I ain't got no baby, ain't mine.
Speaker 5: Oh here, Yeah, he wasn't happy, right, and you were
Speaker 5: fine because.
Speaker 4: I'm because I'm because I'm like I'm a family orient
Speaker 4: like I got a small family. I want a big family. So,
Speaker 4: you know, so like there's a chapter in my life
Speaker 4: and I'm learning to like you know how they say
Speaker 4: like if you if you fake like you got over something,
Speaker 4: you ain't really got over it. Like this bullshit to me,
Speaker 4: Like if I go through something this traumatized, and like
Speaker 4: if I'm in peace right now, so give me give
Speaker 4: me four day, seventy two hours, I'm healing. I ain't
Speaker 4: got time to be I ain't got time to be stagnant,
Speaker 4: Like I ain't got time to be stuck on one situation.
Speaker 4: I've been. I've been, I've been behind too long. I've
Speaker 4: been locked up all my life. I can't afford to
Speaker 4: be sitting around streets and to press for three four months.
Speaker 4: I can't do it. I just can't do it. I can't.
Speaker 4: I can't afford to just because he he did some
Speaker 4: fileshit not go hire somebody else, like I got work
Speaker 4: to do, right?
Speaker 3: What do you think about this area as a coping mechanism,
Speaker 3: Like I can't just be depressed.
Speaker 1: Give me four days and I'm over it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think if you're able, there's a difference
Speaker 2: between being able to be functional.
Speaker 4: May get consideration of cold heart a person and who'd
Speaker 4: have been through cold hearted situations like prison. Yeah, you
Speaker 4: see what I'm saying. So you got to understand that
Speaker 4: I'm already in the mindset like, don't nobody to give
Speaker 4: a fuck about me? No way, I'd have been down
Speaker 4: to my lowers like i'dn't been lonely, so dealing with
Speaker 4: a person I'm really trying for you, like I really
Speaker 4: don't give a f If you keep it real with me,
Speaker 4: we can go. But if you don't, I'm ready for
Speaker 4: that too, because I had not already been through the worst.
Speaker 4: It ain't gonna get no worse than this.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, and you're talking about a lot of different emotions,
Speaker 2: and I think that the they're the ones that you
Speaker 2: show us when you come on to a show and
Speaker 2: you're like, I'm done talking about that and you need
Speaker 2: to move on publicly. And then it's the things that
Speaker 2: happened behind closed doors and your quiet moments and and
Speaker 2: all of it's okay. So even because even you started
Speaker 2: off this conversation very different than what you how you
Speaker 2: ended it, because it sounds like you're ending it and
Speaker 2: being like I'm good, like I'm done off of it.
Speaker 2: But you started it off saying I can't be one
Speaker 2: of those guys who, uh, you know, is more relieved
Speaker 2: than anything else. So there's a balance between the two.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you started off saying that you're not one of
Speaker 3: those guys that you know because you care right, right,
Speaker 3: you do care?
Speaker 5: Right? There was that thing attachment you were looking forward
Speaker 5: to the family structure of what you are going.
Speaker 4: If I literally put my attention on it, like if
Speaker 4: I if I, if I put my attention on it,
Speaker 4: and I like, what is gonna do?
Speaker 1: There's nothing you can do about it?
Speaker 4: What's gonna happen? What can I do? Like, what can
Speaker 4: I do? Is fucked up? It happened, But what can
Speaker 4: I do? It's not gonna make the child mine is
Speaker 4: not gonna what can I do? So I'm I'm strong,
Speaker 4: I'm head strong. Like so you got to understand, like
Speaker 4: I said, you might not understand how I feel to
Speaker 4: sit in a sale for fourteen months, for twenty four
Speaker 4: hours a day, and it might sound foreign as fucked like,
Speaker 4: and it might just yeah, but it's real life. And
Speaker 4: then get to the point where you would be like,
Speaker 4: what the fuck I'm gonna do? Like, what what am
Speaker 4: I gonna? What am I gonna this? You? I'm what
Speaker 4: I'm what I'm what I'm what I'm what I'm what
Speaker 4: I'm what, I'm a wig out tell them I'm finna
Speaker 4: go commit suicide and then have them come and put
Speaker 4: me in a turtle suit and put me in a
Speaker 4: sale with no toilet or nothing. You're my situations worse.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like when you've dealt with such bad things,
Speaker 3: what is worse than that?
Speaker 4: It's great, it's the next it's the next thing to death.
Speaker 4: So but I don't care myself like that. I don't
Speaker 4: move like that. I don't walk around and carry myself.
Speaker 4: I carry myself with respect, dignity. I'm a man, I
Speaker 4: demand my respect, I give respect. But in the same
Speaker 4: sentence like I'm looking at it like life, Like if
Speaker 4: you keep it real with me.
Speaker 1: Then should you think you have a bad temper?
Speaker 4: Nah? Not no more?
Speaker 1: All right, because I was just thinking about that.
Speaker 4: Not no more, not no more. I used to, I
Speaker 4: used to.
Speaker 3: But how did you how did you learn to manage that?
Speaker 3: Because that's not an easy thing. Like react differently.
Speaker 4: Oh, let me say this, Na, because I'm gonna be more.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be MORENA, be more detailing, because all temple
Speaker 4: situation might not leave the jail. It could just be
Speaker 4: in a relationship when it comes to my woman. When
Speaker 4: it comes to women, I learned that women move off emotions.
Speaker 4: They helped me not be mad no more.
Speaker 1: That to me.
Speaker 4: Because like women don't really use they they they hard.
Speaker 4: They use their feelings, and then they use their hard
Speaker 4: after they use their feelings. Like a woman can go
Speaker 4: in and then say, but you.
Speaker 1: Know, it's the words.
Speaker 4: It's like, but they can say the craziest ship in
Speaker 4: the way, and that be the feelings. But you know
Speaker 4: that they really Yeah, I'll be laughing when my woman
Speaker 4: go off on me, like, oh when I see you
Speaker 4: on im.
Speaker 3: Like, do you think that means that she cares more trauma?
Speaker 5: Oh my god, it's a serious traumaban. We got about
Speaker 5: five more minutes with over here, so.
Speaker 3: Okay, but before you leave, what you think of me?
Speaker 4: Yeah? What you think?
Speaker 1: What's your impression of him?
Speaker 4: Last couple of minutes before you.
Speaker 1: I don't want to give you a hug. There we go.
Speaker 3: Look, real one, get a real one, not at the table.
Speaker 1: He needs a real hug. See, this is sweet you.
Speaker 2: I can just tell you have such a big heart
Speaker 2: and sorry, I can just tell that you have such
Speaker 2: a big heart and that you are a good man.
Speaker 2: And I can't imagine how exhausting it is. It sounds
Speaker 2: like when you don't have that example of that, how
Speaker 2: to find that in yourself and do it when you
Speaker 2: haven't seen it, and also having these kind of like
Speaker 2: trauma bonds with these people. It's you've had to have
Speaker 2: people prove that they love you a lot, and you
Speaker 2: found ways to see and to create situations where these
Speaker 2: women can prove that they love you. And I just
Speaker 2: hope that you get to the point where someone shows
Speaker 2: you that they love you and you see it without
Speaker 2: and accept it and receive it without because they see you.
Speaker 2: I can see you like you just I don't know
Speaker 2: you change, but it's like you are so you have
Speaker 2: such a warmth about you, you know.
Speaker 4: I think. I think. I think my anger and my
Speaker 4: and my character like that people get from me. I
Speaker 4: think it comes from me just battling with who I
Speaker 4: want to be versus who I was raised as, Like
Speaker 4: I was raised like this person, but like who I
Speaker 4: want to be is like a totally different person. And
Speaker 4: my and I get mad because shit happens, things go
Speaker 4: on that I'm not used to that I haven't seen
Speaker 4: before in my life, and like it make a nigga
Speaker 4: angry and make a nigga mad, And I last.
Speaker 1: Shout like what do you mean? What type of things?
Speaker 4: Simple things? Like it's simple things like and it's crazy
Speaker 4: that I got to see it again. But like fan
Speaker 4: out of child, ain't you? Like I said, the average
Speaker 4: that's the average dude, Like, but where I'm from, I'm
Speaker 4: the everage nigga fan out a baby and years like,
Speaker 4: oh shit for real, shit, but I ain't gonna lie
Speaker 4: ded lit. But but extality, they really don't give a fuck.
Speaker 4: They feel like they just dodged a bullet. But for me,
Speaker 4: it's like it's bigger than just it's the baby, it's
Speaker 4: the living everything. It's the lord to Like I'm dealing
Speaker 4: with a person that I took off the street. They
Speaker 4: didn't have nothing, they didn't have nowhere to stay, they
Speaker 4: didn't have no car, they didn't have no So I'm
Speaker 4: looking at it like family oriented. So I'm looking at
Speaker 4: it like man were family, Me and my brother and him,
Speaker 4: like we round were family, Like my women were all family.
Speaker 4: They call them brothers. They they's his sister. They it's
Speaker 4: all a family. We eat together, we go everywhere together,
Speaker 4: we protect each other. So you know, it's kind of
Speaker 4: like this lord to betrayal?
Speaker 1: Can you the.
Speaker 2: Baby into all of that?
Speaker 1: Right that?
Speaker 4: Like you get it, but I want to listen to you.
Speaker 2: But I mean that's I think that that that sums
Speaker 2: it up. It sounds like it's not just about the baby,
Speaker 2: it's about what the baby represented for you and that
Speaker 2: relationship that you built around this person who didn't exist
Speaker 2: for very long any.
Speaker 4: Time, you know, And yeah, you get it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Sary, I really hope that this is going
Speaker 3: to help finess because you, like I said, I saw
Speaker 3: you say I think I might do some therapy, and
Speaker 3: I hope you do because I'm not even saying this
Speaker 3: just to you, but like everybody in this room, people
Speaker 3: will say you think everybody needs therapy Suri like or
Speaker 3: could benefit from it.
Speaker 2: I think absolutely, And I think like people people who
Speaker 2: aren't going for a particular reason, they're called the worried. Well,
Speaker 2: it's like the I got.
Speaker 4: To say something against it. See my mama told me this,
Speaker 4: you know, shout out the mama Pete.
Speaker 1: She don't play.
Speaker 4: She told me like she was like because every time
Speaker 4: she seem she could see me go through something right,
Speaker 4: and then when she see me, she like, what you
Speaker 4: think about when I be like nothing, And she'd be like, well,
Speaker 4: what the hell you mean nothing? Like why you just
Speaker 4: so emotionless? Why you don't? And I was like, ma,
Speaker 4: like I don't, like I'm not really like into like expressing,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying myself about certain shit, like
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying like, and she was like,
Speaker 4: you gotta stop doing it. She was like, but I
Speaker 4: get it. You've been in concentrated so long. And she
Speaker 4: got me down packed. My mama got me down packed,
Speaker 4: like she get it, Like it's like she got the
Speaker 4: gift that I got. I have a gift of being
Speaker 4: able to put myself in people's shoes, like I know
Speaker 4: how to feel. Like that's why I treat people how
Speaker 4: I want to be treated, because don't treat me the
Speaker 4: fucked up because now you're finish, get a whole nother
Speaker 4: fuck them. Say so, I'm gonna do you what I
Speaker 4: want you to do to me, right, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And my mama told me, she said, oh
Speaker 4: you you know how to self therapy yourself, And she's
Speaker 4: so right. But because the time in jail I spent
Speaker 4: it was to myself. This is why I feel like
Speaker 4: she's right, because I found myself and begin my spiritual
Speaker 4: journey with the allt of war and with the four
Speaker 4: day Laws of Power, with everything I found that talking
Speaker 4: to myself, like I literally had to ex myself. What
Speaker 4: was my problems? How could I solve it? How could
Speaker 4: I do better as a man like me? How to
Speaker 4: stop blaming anybody else for my problems? Like because it's
Speaker 4: still your fault if you deal with them, but damn,
Speaker 4: it's fucked up because you gotta deal with somebody. But
Speaker 4: like you know, that's the fucked up part about life,
Speaker 4: because you have to deal with somebody. Even if a
Speaker 4: mother fucker cross, you still got to go fuck with
Speaker 4: somebody else. You know.
Speaker 3: I think that being able to also have and there
Speaker 3: you worgue with this resources are ways to deal with things.
Speaker 1: Sometimes.
Speaker 3: There's ways that because you're always evolving and growing and
Speaker 3: learning how to do things yourself differently, right right right,
Speaker 3: And there's definitely tools that I think somebody who's an
Speaker 3: expert can provide that could be beneficial for you that
Speaker 3: you don't even know about.
Speaker 4: But they just come with time and me being free.
Speaker 4: It just comes like situations like situation, just being free,
Speaker 4: just being home. Only been home two years now.
Speaker 1: Right, and you've done a lot.
Speaker 3: So let's give it up for that, because there's people
Speaker 3: that's been home like forever and they did you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, And that's I'm not even being funny,
Speaker 3: but that is that's amazing to be held in two
Speaker 3: years and to have accomplished with you.
Speaker 1: Yes, let's drink to that. I know you got to
Speaker 1: go have your last step and you can get out
Speaker 1: of here. But but I was I was just gonna
Speaker 1: say that.
Speaker 2: I think that when people think about therapy, they think
Speaker 2: about sitting in a room on a couch. You've got
Speaker 2: somebody with a pencil and paper looking up every once
Speaker 2: in a while, you know, and taking down notes and
Speaker 2: then giving you advice, and you come to that space
Speaker 2: in that situation because you have a problem. I think
Speaker 2: that those are the biggest miss about therapy. And it
Speaker 2: also doesn't have to be traditional talk therapy. That is
Speaker 2: a very particular type of therapy that's cognitive behavioral therapy
Speaker 2: or psychotherapy or whatever what you're talking about, Like somebody
Speaker 2: being able to contact somebody and ask for the tools
Speaker 2: because you can find them. But there are people who
Speaker 2: are specially trained in their ability to communicate certain ways
Speaker 2: for you to be able to do the things that
Speaker 2: you want to do for yourself. So being able to
Speaker 2: do self therapy, I mean, I do think that that's
Speaker 2: the thing. I think people who are self aware enough
Speaker 2: to be able to explore that stuff.
Speaker 4: I think it's I don't recommend it on a street though, yeah,
Speaker 4: maybe behind balls, but on the streets, I self, there
Speaker 4: you got to talk to somebody like you got to
Speaker 4: talk to somebody.
Speaker 1: I can't wait till you do this. I do, I
Speaker 1: really do.
Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, I think it'll be amazing for you
Speaker 3: just to be able to talk to somebody because, like
Speaker 3: you said, you've been through a lot. You've only been
Speaker 3: home for two years. This music business, boy, you need therapy, just.
Speaker 1: Some that to deal with that. You know, it's.
Speaker 4: New, it's new everything. That's that's what I'm trying to
Speaker 4: tell y'all. Everything the fame, the money, the situations. Everything,
Speaker 4: Like like the ship that y'all deal with, I probably
Speaker 4: ain't even made the two years. It's certain ship that
Speaker 4: I'm dealing with it. I'm still trying to that they
Speaker 4: still have the TV. I ain't gonna lie this ship,
Speaker 4: ain't even worrying about but I'm so caught up in
Speaker 4: the treachery of it.
Speaker 1: Like one more reason why probably like but I'm excited
Speaker 1: for you to do it.
Speaker 3: I know you well because I feel like you're that
Speaker 3: type of person, like, let me try it, try music therapy.
Speaker 4: Because overall I've been having a thing where people feel
Speaker 4: like I ain't good with women, like women feel like,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't have a big women fan bab
Speaker 4: big woman fan base.
Speaker 1: Two times.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I feel like women think that I'm like this,
Speaker 4: like I'm not approachable, like I'm not these cool calm
Speaker 4: dude like.
Speaker 1: Because but you're not smiling. They could feel like he's intimidating.
Speaker 4: This is my wrist and phase. Yeah you gotta My
Speaker 4: daughter got it though, Like and I look out and
Speaker 4: I look out all the time, and I'm like, ooh,
Speaker 4: I love it though for the nigga, I love it,
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, But I got a
Speaker 4: wrist and face, but like disliked it. But I'm not
Speaker 4: like like I'm very approachable, like like I like intellectual conversations.
Speaker 4: I like to you know what I'm saying. I and
Speaker 4: grew out a lot of my old ways, Like if
Speaker 4: you would have called me five years ago, I wouldn't
Speaker 4: even take a woman out of.
Speaker 1: The eat my god, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So I'm real, I really like and I'm trying. I'm
Speaker 4: having daughters and I'm trying to I'm trying to pay
Speaker 4: my dt to the universe before you get treat y'all
Speaker 4: right now, so so so so, so y'all.
Speaker 3: You know, Okay, listen, we're about to order some so
Speaker 3: you wouldn't take a woman out to eat, so it's
Speaker 3: just straight to the career.
Speaker 4: Back then, no, now, at first it was what I'm
Speaker 4: saying five years ago. No, back then, she had to
Speaker 4: have some money, you know what time of time, the
Speaker 4: sugar baby, I did a four three sixty, Like really
Speaker 4: I really didn't like now, like I don't mind you know,
Speaker 4: wining and dying. Now I feel like and especially seeing
Speaker 4: my baby come out, like it made me like really
Speaker 4: cared for a woman the much more, like I want
Speaker 4: everything for her.
Speaker 1: And also women go through a lot.
Speaker 3: When you see that miracle of birth, I feel like
Speaker 3: men could not handle that ship?
Speaker 1: Can you?
Speaker 4: Father?
Speaker 2: Day?
Speaker 4: If her dude don't open the door for her, I
Speaker 4: don't like him.
Speaker 1: Well you shouldn't, so that you got to open doors.
Speaker 4: Yes, you get.
Speaker 1: One more.
Speaker 4: And then I'm trying to do the three sixty because
Speaker 4: like I want them to grow up and be able
Speaker 4: to see like I want how my daddy even with women.
Speaker 4: That's how I want a woman to be with me.
Speaker 4: I'm not a man to be with me.
Speaker 3: Okay, how is your father ship?
Speaker 4: I don't even want to put that into this. This
Speaker 4: you got, we got that's gonna be a whole other conversation,
Speaker 4: and you're not gonna.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me, And no, you're saying.
Speaker 4: Because hed so he were putting that together. Yeah, you're
Speaker 4: going to have a Yeah you you're ready to have us.
Speaker 4: You're ready to have a saisi let's go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Debate like a motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Then that's not what therapy for. Forth, Fine, a debate.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, thank you? All right?
Speaker 1: So your dad back to that.
Speaker 4: That's where I come from. I come from like straight
Speaker 4: from his nest sack, like he was a pimp. My
Speaker 4: dad with pimping. He was a gorilla. He gang bang gang,
Speaker 4: and that's what I grew up around, Like that's what
Speaker 4: I that's what I wanted to be. His name was
Speaker 4: Debo and my nine was little Debot like father like son. Okay,
Speaker 4: So he grew up booking, was booking and taking ship
Speaker 4: like so you know what I'm saying. He grew up
Speaker 4: booking niggas and I grew up booking niggas and then
Speaker 4: laying to me in prison, right you know. And at
Speaker 4: the age of he went to the penitential at the
Speaker 4: age of eighteen. I went in seventeen.
Speaker 1: So it was like really followed.
Speaker 4: I literally like followed him, like I literally followed all
Speaker 4: the way in his footsteps. Like yeah, but.
Speaker 1: Uh, you've changed.
Speaker 4: I changed, and I wish my daddy would have changed women, nigga.
Speaker 1: I mean he still has time.
Speaker 4: Man, my daddy, Like I love my daddy to death,
Speaker 4: but like I got one of them, Daddy's just like
Speaker 4: stuck in his ways, like fifty something me and fifties
Speaker 4: and he really like you don't like you know.
Speaker 1: Because you probably were stuck in your waist until you
Speaker 1: were it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm young, like and I get it. Like
Speaker 4: if I put it like this, if I had a
Speaker 4: son and my son was for this two times, he
Speaker 4: ain't know where I wouldn't be without my son, right, Okay,
Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck, Like I don't. He'll have
Speaker 4: to tell me a pops, I don't want you there
Speaker 4: and get what. I'll still be outside to one your
Speaker 4: little friend somebody going on and beat him like somebody
Speaker 4: gonna let me know where yet I'm here for mine
Speaker 4: like it is what it is, Like you could be
Speaker 4: mad at me or whatever. Bro, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: but I'm now until you tell me, nigga, I don't
Speaker 4: want you around me. You make me feel just. But
Speaker 4: other than that, I'm here like I ain't you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, ain't no amount of money, I ain't No,
Speaker 4: we're coming from where we come from. Ain't no way
Speaker 4: like it wouldn't be nothing to stop me from being
Speaker 4: here with my son.
Speaker 1: Right right, But you know, sometimes it's ego too.
Speaker 4: I don't feel like this should be involved when it
Speaker 4: comes to a father relationship. I don't feel like ego pride,
Speaker 4: this should this shouldn't be involved involved, This shouldn't be
Speaker 4: ego and pride shouldn't even have nothing to do with it.
Speaker 4: Like I don't have ego of pride when they come
Speaker 4: to my kids.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, well, I think, who I can't wait till
Speaker 3: you talk to Zaria.
Speaker 4: I don't even do it. We gotta do that Art
Speaker 4: of War?
Speaker 3: Right, So is the album you said for you that
Speaker 3: it's definitely a strategy, you know with Art of War,
Speaker 3: Like that's definitely some.
Speaker 1: Strategy strategy within itself. So talk to me about that, okay, Well,
Speaker 1: the allt of War, like.
Speaker 4: I just and I'm glad I spoke on being incarcerated earlier,
Speaker 4: like it comes from me being incarcerated. Like I said,
Speaker 4: when I did the fourteen months on lockdown, we didn't
Speaker 4: have nothing but books. We had no communication to the
Speaker 4: outside world. We had no communication to It's just us
Speaker 4: on this range and it's probably like seven seven seals
Speaker 4: on this side, seven seals on the other side. So
Speaker 4: it's like fourteen of y'all. And it's weird because y'all
Speaker 4: end up growing to be like a small family, right, like,
Speaker 4: because it's just y'all on his range and y'all not
Speaker 4: going outside. Y'all, you gotta wonder, but this is it.
Speaker 4: But anyway, this book, I picked it up, and this
Speaker 4: older guy taught me how to read, like not read
Speaker 4: read like I knew how to spell and read, but
Speaker 4: he taught me how to read intellectual books like they
Speaker 4: with big vocabulary, with dictionaries. So I picked up a dictionary,
Speaker 4: all the dictionaries, different type of dictionaries, Spanish dictionaries, everything.
Speaker 4: That's great because I want to understand, like, I want
Speaker 4: to understand it because I don't want to just read
Speaker 4: this ship like you know what I'm saying, don't understand
Speaker 4: what I'm reading. Like, So I picked up a dictionary
Speaker 4: and as I'm going like I got my highlighter, like
Speaker 4: I'm really into it. Like, so I understood when I
Speaker 4: started reading All the War, I had already read The
Speaker 4: Four Days of Power, Behold the White Pill Hooys, so
Speaker 4: you know, and when I started reading this book, it
Speaker 4: got deep because at first I thought it was just war,
Speaker 4: just regular you know, shooting, just and that's what that's
Speaker 4: what took a grip on me because it was like,
Speaker 4: you have to have a warlike mentality, you have to
Speaker 4: have a warlike posture, characteristics, personality, you know. And that's
Speaker 4: what kind of humbled me to stick my chests out
Speaker 4: no more, like and I have to walk around with
Speaker 4: a mug on my face no more, because I feel
Speaker 4: like I am who I am, I've done what I've done,
Speaker 4: like and I don't have to portray I don't have
Speaker 4: to let people know I bush your ass. I don't
Speaker 4: got to let you know that. I'm just gonna be cool,
Speaker 4: come and collected and don't want to have to bush hey,
Speaker 4: br just move around, like go on about your bus.
Speaker 3: Is in the music business because people will test you
Speaker 3: and all kind of crazy.
Speaker 4: But when they come to that, when they come to that,
Speaker 4: I see I didn't been the places that they ain't
Speaker 4: been to, right.
Speaker 3: But you wouldn't know that on social media when people
Speaker 3: start talking crazy and saying things and then you're thinking,
Speaker 3: like I really did this and I really did that.
Speaker 3: But I do think people don't care no more, No
Speaker 3: they don't.
Speaker 4: People don't care about what you then did, No more,
Speaker 4: people don't. But I'm saying, I'm saying artists to say
Speaker 4: that I'm not gonna walk around my ship out because
Speaker 4: i know what I'm gonna do, and I'm not the
Speaker 4: guy to really just be thinking twice about what I'm
Speaker 4: gonna do. If I feel threatened, then it's just that.
Speaker 4: But I'm not trying to give off their type of
Speaker 4: energy or none. That's why I come in cool, come collected,
Speaker 4: because I know when it's time, I know what I'm
Speaker 4: gonna do.
Speaker 3: And those are the people that always the most dangerous
Speaker 3: when they walk in cool.
Speaker 4: But I don't have no problem. I'm not tough. I'm
Speaker 4: not like I'm not coming with like an entourage of
Speaker 4: fifty people. I'm not like I'm not coming in TIMI Dayton.
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to step on nobody toes and come
Speaker 4: and respectful, like if I had to take the bank guy,
Speaker 4: take the bank. I ain't you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 4: but people don't know that about me. People don't know
Speaker 4: if it's you or it's a person who I grew
Speaker 4: to be that I've seen I didn't have to be,
Speaker 4: Like I came home and a lot of people old
Speaker 4: for this, for this, for this, because I was still
Speaker 4: you know, and then I had never been a drinker,
Speaker 4: like and then I I'm straight home drinking cost of megos.
Speaker 4: I don't even know what the fuck I wake up with,
Speaker 4: just crazy like like what the fuck? Like and it
Speaker 4: was fun as hell, like who I want to do
Speaker 4: that again? But then like days went back and weeks
Speaker 4: went by, I'm like, like, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Like the ship happened and serious shit happening. But back
Speaker 4: to the all the war and to the seale like
Speaker 4: this where I learned the all the ward though, like
Speaker 4: and it was more of a mental thing, and it
Speaker 4: taught me how to prepare for battle mentally.
Speaker 1: Like and each battle is different.
Speaker 3: They teach you that in there until you can't like
Speaker 3: this battle the same way you before you so you
Speaker 3: think you could do the same thing over and over
Speaker 3: again every single wars have a different strategy.
Speaker 4: But it gets deeper than it. Life itself is a
Speaker 4: is a war, like and I'm saying that to say, like,
Speaker 4: like how you just said you can't fight. You gotta
Speaker 4: fight every bottle different Like people don't know that. People
Speaker 4: people think that they can just go on by living
Speaker 4: life like life is really simple if you do to
Speaker 4: just do the right thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, that is true.
Speaker 4: It's I mean, but the unfortunate and the ship that
Speaker 4: we don't want to happen, it's going to happen.
Speaker 1: But it's I.
Speaker 3: Would say, I like that do the right thing phrase. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because even when the unfortunate happens, when at least you
Speaker 3: always know that you leave with good intentions, you did
Speaker 3: the right thing. I did my part, you know, and
Speaker 3: whatever else happens around that, some things are just not
Speaker 3: in your control.
Speaker 4: I did everything I could in my power. And I
Speaker 4: hate it about this, like about the new me, Like
Speaker 4: I hate it because like back in the days you had,
Speaker 4: you ain't even have a chance. It could be a treat.
Speaker 4: I can see, Fuck you bitch all nigga, you do
Speaker 4: get out of here like it wasn't no, like I
Speaker 4: ain't had no understanding, and that leaves me to say
Speaker 4: this right here. I've been having like this thing going on.
Speaker 4: I've been having a conversation with people about me giving
Speaker 4: people chances. Okay, because I give people chances a lot,
Speaker 4: because I feel like I changed, like and I was
Speaker 4: the last person on the earth without I trying to
Speaker 4: like to say some shit I say today or lett
Speaker 4: some shit go that I wouldn't mind.
Speaker 1: I feel like you've learned a lot.
Speaker 6: Like you said you were doing your self therapy that
Speaker 6: I feel like you give people a lot of chances
Speaker 6: because maybe you didn't have that and you kind of
Speaker 6: want to give other people the opportunity to see what
Speaker 6: they can do treat people.
Speaker 1: I want to be trying.
Speaker 4: But it can also be dangerous because you can give
Speaker 4: a person that this slight chance can cause you your
Speaker 4: life or your freedom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with something.
Speaker 3: It's hard to know, Like some people make honest mistakes
Speaker 3: and you can give them a second chance. Some people
Speaker 3: are intentionally doing up sh to you and you give
Speaker 3: them another chance.
Speaker 1: It just don't you know. I don't know. It's just
Speaker 1: hard to say something another chance.
Speaker 4: I feel like this is how I feel. I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't know. We we was raised different, we grew
Speaker 4: up different, We come up in different type of households. Me,
Speaker 4: I feel like, especially the life that I live today,
Speaker 4: Like a lot of my guys, a lot of my
Speaker 4: people that come around, they ain't used to being in
Speaker 4: no big house. They ain't used to being in no
Speaker 4: rolls Royce. They ain't okay being around niggas that you
Speaker 4: know of certain type of calibers. So they might get
Speaker 4: around and do jerk ship. They might get around and
Speaker 4: do ship that. And you know me, you know, months
Speaker 4: ago eight nine, I used to just cutting niggas off
Speaker 4: of ship like that. And this is just looking at
Speaker 4: it like, damn, bro, I don't really know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand that you don't really know.
Speaker 3: But that's when intention matters, right, because if it's not
Speaker 3: a bad intention, and somebody does something just from not knowing,
Speaker 3: that's different than somebody with intentions of doing something versus.
Speaker 4: You just know right from wrong. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And it's just, you know, one of the principles I
Speaker 4: stand on, like, we ain't even do that.
Speaker 1: Can we get back to this missionary thing now?
Speaker 3: I mean, when did you start enjoying missionary?
Speaker 4: Man? I probably about twenty one okay, twenty one, twenty
Speaker 4: two okay, one of my first bid and I went
Speaker 4: in at jail house and got freaked out in the
Speaker 4: mind and I was like, when I get out, I'm
Speaker 4: doing that.
Speaker 3: But look in the eye, yeah, can tone kills.
Speaker 4: Might funk around looking forehead and everything.
Speaker 1: Why I'm gonna lie.
Speaker 4: I'll be jumping out there looking for just to say
Speaker 4: I've done, Like what was just saying?
Speaker 1: What else I heard? You can't you say?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't be just eating fishing?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: Why is two hundred and fifty thousand?
Speaker 1: What's not mean?
Speaker 4: Because ship? They're more for worse something. What you're gonna
Speaker 4: do after that?
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean what I'm like, it make it
Speaker 1: worth more.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, So you're gonna go get some here from
Speaker 4: another nigga that is worth listing my ship. What I'm saying,
Speaker 4: what it got to be a lion with this ship?
Speaker 6: But is it a safety hazard because because their tongue five.
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought it was like dangerous or something like
Speaker 1: you could cut.
Speaker 4: The No, I ain't doing that now. I had about
Speaker 4: three so far.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, so it's just personal preference.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I have about three four tests runs. My
Speaker 4: test runs turned out.
Speaker 1: To be successful. Okay, so you just are retired.
Speaker 4: No, I ain't retired now, it's just.
Speaker 5: Being more selective, super selected, super selective.
Speaker 1: Yeah I can't.
Speaker 4: I can't.
Speaker 1: So what's the prerequisite, you know, like, what's the what
Speaker 1: the what? What's the qualification?
Speaker 4: First of all, if you got to go through my woman?
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's first anyway, what does she like?
Speaker 4: This? Who spiked my sexual drive? Like my sexual drive?
Speaker 5: One?
Speaker 4: Like this, like I can go around or two I'm tired.
Speaker 4: It's old with like oh like after the second around,
Speaker 4: it's like she where you're going coming up? Mine? I
Speaker 4: was going to sleep, but but but but like after
Speaker 4: so long, I'm like she, when you wake up and
Speaker 4: you get in head, what can you do? Right? You? Right,
Speaker 4: it's time to go. That's how I wake up like
Speaker 4: damn there every day? Yeah, I go to sleep. Good.
Speaker 3: What if she brings somebody else home and she's it's
Speaker 3: okay if you wake up and they're going at it
Speaker 3: and you will still sleep?
Speaker 4: Okay, Nah, I ain't gonna sleep.
Speaker 3: I mean, let's just say you wake up and then
Speaker 3: you didn't you know, you're like oh ship what's going
Speaker 3: on over here?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna go brush my teachers, get active.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brush your teeth first. I don't like
Speaker 1: when people don't do.
Speaker 4: That most and then then it's about time to get active.
Speaker 4: If you be going down like this.
Speaker 3: Now for the third party, for the girl that gets
Speaker 3: brought home, are you allowed to look her in the eye?
Speaker 1: Kissing?
Speaker 4: And I ain't gonna even not lie right the one
Speaker 4: man with women right now, like I ain't, I ain't,
Speaker 4: I ain't. I ain't vulnerable like I used to be.
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna like I got to have a conversation
Speaker 4: in there like I used to be able to just boom,
Speaker 4: meet you at the meet you at the club. Damn
Speaker 4: you think it's here, you bad, it's here. Boom, take
Speaker 4: her to the room. Fucking ship out of here. I'm
Speaker 4: to my hamn on to my hour hour and hand
Speaker 4: honey peck on to my hennessy cost of nego do
Speaker 4: a dirty year to my scene?
Speaker 1: Is there more? What else? I feel like you were
Speaker 1: giving us a whole line of visual that.
Speaker 4: You can visualize. Visualize it, Okay, So like when I
Speaker 4: when I found out that a woman like toys, I
Speaker 4: tell them to bring a toy.
Speaker 1: Okay, bring your toys.
Speaker 4: Bring your toys like I don't, cause you know, women
Speaker 4: be kinter they like they like they tours counter private.
Speaker 1: Well, men sometimes don't like that.
Speaker 5: Men jealous, They get intimidated, right, Yes, a lot of
Speaker 5: men feel like, why do you need that?
Speaker 1: If I got this, now you.
Speaker 4: Put the motherfucking but plug in it ass with them
Speaker 4: back shot ship like that.
Speaker 1: Okay, you get ship.
Speaker 4: Cracking like this, like nigga understands it took for me
Speaker 4: to do it. Let me say this. I can say
Speaker 4: that I was intimidated one I seen all over the bed.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: See, y'all don't understand that. It's we only we only
Speaker 5: wanted to bring that into not to take your place,
Speaker 5: but just but they go.
Speaker 4: Back to the criteria of the two fifty. Okay, go
Speaker 4: back to the They go back to the criterion. Boom,
Speaker 4: my woman got to like you first.
Speaker 1: Okay, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So I ain't gonna lie like I ain't really just
Speaker 4: trying to just let know, anybody go on my two fifty.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, you shouldn't even if you was.
Speaker 4: See see now y'all going deep. Now see I'm just
Speaker 4: talking being detailed about this new grilla.
Speaker 1: See you think before that you was eating anybody?
Speaker 4: I never list ate a total of five women all
Speaker 4: my life. What yes, I don't understand. I've been locked
Speaker 4: up all my life. I ain't never been just no mancha,
Speaker 4: I ain't never.
Speaker 1: But you do have five kids.
Speaker 4: Listen, but they ain't got to keep doing much. I'm
Speaker 4: almost I ain't never puy, I ain't never pusy know.
Speaker 1: How this so sorry? What you mean?
Speaker 4: Listen? I just did?
Speaker 1: Why the second requirement? Like, how do you know where
Speaker 1: it's like? Okay this like of the five? How did
Speaker 1: you know, like you know what she's special. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let this happen.
Speaker 4: Hold on.
Speaker 3: That you might be count hold on saying it's less.
Speaker 1: Third baby Keisha, Letitia sa I met Now all these
Speaker 1: girls are going to be up. He ain't my plea.
Speaker 4: I swear to god they got me fucked up. And
Speaker 4: the three women that I've been with, but like it's
Speaker 4: crazy because one on them that ate it one time?
Speaker 4: Why because I just know, like, first of all, I
Speaker 4: feel like I couldn't do it. Let me say that
Speaker 4: you feel like like now now I'm.
Speaker 1: Fine, Okay, you got that I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: you need practice.
Speaker 4: I don't need no practice.
Speaker 1: Now he said, he's good.
Speaker 4: Now I'm making she shape. I got she down packed
Speaker 4: like because I'm gonna ex you. That's what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Like that's my second required. I got to know you
Speaker 4: like I talk to you, like even if my woman
Speaker 4: brings you to the crib, like I want to talk
Speaker 4: to you for conversation. We gotta go out, we gotta talk.
Speaker 4: We got that. I want to I want to be
Speaker 4: because I can tell that they puss it good.
Speaker 3: You can't just from conversations like what's good pussy conversation
Speaker 3: like it's an energy.
Speaker 4: It's not a conversation like like like you can tell
Speaker 4: when they when when she moving and she that pussy
Speaker 4: with she she she squirmed like she she she probably
Speaker 4: got some wet pussy. But see if some women that
Speaker 4: pussy can get wet after they gets dry.
Speaker 1: Okay, see that when I'm.
Speaker 3: Kind of like when y'all get you know, did go
Speaker 3: down after you know it's like that kind of like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah yeah, but she I ain't gonna lie. Ship,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna clean up. She go make some eggs or something. Ship,
Speaker 4: I'm ready, make some eggs. Make me buy two eggs.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Smoke a blood for a minute.
Speaker 4: What was up?
Speaker 1: He just needed That's what guys, it give me five minutes.
Speaker 4: I got to be able to conversay, talk to you,
Speaker 4: got to have a good vibe to you.
Speaker 3: Munch on you only just crazy.
Speaker 1: We gotta be able to tell you.
Speaker 3: Have you ever used toys that if a man like
Speaker 3: a cock ring or anything like that.
Speaker 1: That's like the ring that you put around your dick.
Speaker 4: That yeah, I did that one time. See what was
Speaker 4: still on? It was.
Speaker 1: Shout out the young drug had. Well he didn't wake
Speaker 1: up with a condom one, but he kept that condom.
Speaker 3: By accident to make said you woke up with the
Speaker 3: cock ring still on. So that means you had such
Speaker 3: a good time.
Speaker 1: You passed out. Yeah, so it was good. So you
Speaker 1: liked it? Like, so what all right?
Speaker 3: Because a lot of guys like be a little bit
Speaker 3: shy about using toys, But those are supposed.
Speaker 1: To work for me.
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna let it help me stay hard. I
Speaker 4: can stay hard out the jump, I could keep on.
Speaker 3: However, when you fall asleep on it, you have the
Speaker 3: risk of you know.
Speaker 4: I know I had probably I had probably by two
Speaker 4: three times.
Speaker 1: So you only use it that one time?
Speaker 4: You did it?
Speaker 3: Job, you only did it one time.
Speaker 4: The only time I can remember. But but like it
Speaker 4: was a female like that. She would like, right here,
Speaker 4: let's do this, and I was like what that is?
Speaker 1: And she would like, I get you down for whatever,
Speaker 1: but she.
Speaker 4: Would like put it on. And when I put it on,
Speaker 4: then they jumped for you're good. She got to suck
Speaker 4: in the head and I'm like, yeah, it's like to
Speaker 4: keep on and then it was up.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that you liked it and only used it once.
Speaker 4: Because I ain't just gonna go to the It was
Speaker 4: a girl that I ain't finna fucking bound you ask.
Speaker 1: You to leave it? Can you leave that here?
Speaker 4: I love the mother fucking my girl. Break out a
Speaker 4: big ring like I'm gonna be like she is right right,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go to the stowing back.
Speaker 1: You can order it online.
Speaker 4: Just a look too. You got she got to say,
Speaker 4: they put this on.
Speaker 1: You tell you right?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 1: So is that what you like? You like to be
Speaker 1: given orders in the bar room?
Speaker 4: You be? I do the fucking I mean, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not just for her to tell you what
Speaker 1: you do. You're not taking in structure.
Speaker 4: I said, I'm going all ready know like over them,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get into a sleek sexual conversation and I
Speaker 4: might ask you, like, how you like that thing? Okay,
Speaker 4: they don't mean I'm eating. I just want to know.
Speaker 5: Don't ask me about how if at silly that's taking
Speaker 5: me telling me I can't get a back.
Speaker 4: That's not the same. Like if we're sitting there having
Speaker 4: a conversation, they ain't taking you the lieu of a ton.
Speaker 1: Yes it is. If you asked me.
Speaker 4: So, so every woman like so every woman like it
Speaker 4: different like some women like don't like they hold some
Speaker 4: women like, so, how you how you like?
Speaker 1: If you're asking, then clearly you're.
Speaker 5: Insimulating that you asking me if you're not about to
Speaker 5: do person, don't take me to.
Speaker 1: The store and don't be.
Speaker 4: Something.
Speaker 1: Listen, let's flip this. That's if we on a date.
Speaker 5: And I ask you you like your dick suck and
Speaker 5: then we go fucking I say, I'm not sucking a dick.
Speaker 1: How you asking?
Speaker 4: But but what I'm saying what I'm saying that they
Speaker 4: don't You can't be mad at me because I didn't
Speaker 4: do it.
Speaker 1: Just nobody saying. We're just saying, what's going to ask?
Speaker 1: They're not going to do it. You'll be all right
Speaker 1: to the next time, till the next time you'll.
Speaker 4: Be all you got something to come back to.
Speaker 1: They won't we know next time.
Speaker 3: I really, I really don't think that women's just sleeping
Speaker 3: men if they don't each the same respect about Fanny.
Speaker 3: Women listening to this and fanasic reason because you want.
Speaker 1: Reciprocated. Yeah, we're both gonna do it.
Speaker 3: I just feel like it's kind of like the precursor,
Speaker 3: Like you know, it's like.
Speaker 4: A yeah, nah, this ship ain't this ain't cool?
Speaker 1: What's not cool?
Speaker 3: You can't sit up here and act like you're freak,
Speaker 3: But then you look at your head.
Speaker 1: Every woman that that you have sex with the dad,
Speaker 1: let me say this answer yes or no.
Speaker 4: Let me say this. You got to eat that dick.
Speaker 4: But let me say this right here, let me go back.
Speaker 1: Sport.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you why the days I come from, right,
Speaker 4: you couldn't eat no puss it back in my day and.
Speaker 1: Now he's old school. Okay, come on now, stop.
Speaker 4: It always got to puss ain't always been eight.
Speaker 1: Yes it has, how do you know, star but not
Speaker 1: not not It just hasn't been talked about it, but
Speaker 1: it's always doing it.
Speaker 4: Won't eat no hair, pussy. Listen, motherfucker won't eat no hairs.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you. It's just in a motherfucker like.
Speaker 1: But he did used to be here.
Speaker 4: But let me say this. Let me say this, man,
Speaker 4: let me say this. You say this, still here, Let
Speaker 4: me say let me say this. Let me say this.
Speaker 1: The last time you had Harry pussy, man, I.
Speaker 4: Ain't had no head pussy, big pop up, bigger pop
Speaker 4: up with this bush or something, a little landing strip
Speaker 4: with this ship.
Speaker 1: You don't like no hair none at all? How do
Speaker 1: you know you don't like it? If you never did it?
Speaker 4: I don't won't think why not. I don't want to
Speaker 4: look at I don't want to imagine it.
Speaker 1: Are you bald?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Escape?
Speaker 1: Okay, he.
Speaker 4: Knows.
Speaker 1: I love that. You know that?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I get did you started man escaping now about sixteen?
Speaker 3: Look, I want to say you have great baby hairs,
Speaker 3: right you.
Speaker 1: See his baby.
Speaker 4: Ship? No? I just was thinking about you know.
Speaker 3: How they say due to Drake's master. Yeah he's bald
Speaker 3: down there. Yeah, my face, no man, escape.
Speaker 1: Woman did that for you and then after that you
Speaker 1: just kept it up.
Speaker 4: If feel better, Listen.
Speaker 1: I did that to a man before I did it
Speaker 1: to a.
Speaker 5: Man, a grown ass, old nigga, and his life was
Speaker 5: ever change.
Speaker 1: He was like wow, he.
Speaker 5: Was He was like a little kid.
Speaker 1: Did you shaving cream? Or did with the clippippers.
Speaker 4: Raised?
Speaker 1: But I did his.
Speaker 5: Whole body though, just back okay, all of the region,
Speaker 5: his boodyhole everything.
Speaker 1: I did it all. Speaking of which, speaking.
Speaker 3: Of whole brown, I was letting you know Sexy Red
Speaker 3: came out with her line lift glasses.
Speaker 1: Yes, so different. I want to ask your pocket hold
Speaker 1: on one.
Speaker 3: I want to ask which flavor you think you would
Speaker 3: like the best?
Speaker 4: Puts the whole pink, nut booted, whole brown, coachie juice. Yeah, yeah, this.
Speaker 1: Gun, real blue balls.
Speaker 4: Six on my period. I ain't gonna lie. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: tell you why I got to go with the six
Speaker 4: on my period.
Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead, tell us why?
Speaker 4: Because mine them be a bad down bad time, like.
Speaker 1: Down bad that's the red one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got the gun.
Speaker 1: Why is that a down bad time?
Speaker 4: We got the gone getting the shower.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you will.
Speaker 4: It could be three o'clock in the morning. You gotta
Speaker 4: get your ass in the shower.
Speaker 1: How often do you masturbate?
Speaker 4: She I used to do it a lot. I don't
Speaker 4: do that. Ship like no more? She like ship?
Speaker 1: I got it at the crib right, okay, is at.
Speaker 4: The crib now? But like I got a lot of videos.
Speaker 4: U so like.
Speaker 3: I get down, So you watch the video when you're
Speaker 3: traveling some ship like that?
Speaker 4: But not. I ain't just freaked in.
Speaker 1: But when gods masturbated? When y'all come, do you like
Speaker 1: make noise when a tree fall in the farest by myself?
Speaker 4: That make a loud noise.
Speaker 1: When the tree fall in the woods.
Speaker 4: Yeah? Probably, yeah, yeah, yeah, nigga make a noise.
Speaker 1: I definitely make noise when.
Speaker 4: Everything Like women, men like to see women play with themselves?
Speaker 4: Do women like to see me and play with themselfs?
Speaker 1: To me, it's more of a power thing.
Speaker 4: Do we like that? No? If you got the question,
Speaker 4: I want, I will say this because do that.
Speaker 5: No, I will say this. I want to see the ending.
Speaker 5: I want to see I want to see you. I
Speaker 5: want to see you.
Speaker 1: See this still, I go to see it explode.
Speaker 4: So savage that you like when he flow out or
Speaker 4: shoot out.
Speaker 1: I wanted to shoot. I want I wanted to be dramatic.
Speaker 1: I wanted to shoot like math fire watching it FaceTime.
Speaker 5: If you send me a video, if you send me
Speaker 5: a video, I'm with We're always to the end because
Speaker 5: I won't see what's going to.
Speaker 3: Remember when when I was younger, I was I was
Speaker 3: messing with this guy and we didn't have sex. We
Speaker 3: were just like messing around the heat nothing, but it
Speaker 3: like hit his chin.
Speaker 1: I can't do Yeah, that's what do you say? He
Speaker 1: was like, oh, man, I would I wouldn't respect you
Speaker 1: his own crazy. He didn't mean to do that, I know,
Speaker 1: but even then I wanted to hit my chin.
Speaker 5: I don't wanted to hit his chin expecting I don't
Speaker 5: want to hit his because he just.
Speaker 1: Was like we were messing. No, no, we were together.
Speaker 3: We had never had sex before, so I was younger,
Speaker 3: and you know, I guess you didn't expect that to happen.
Speaker 1: And then it just it shot but it hit him
Speaker 1: like yeah he was I don't think I laughed.
Speaker 3: But I was just like a little I was a
Speaker 3: little like.
Speaker 1: Taken aback funny. At least he didn't get in his mouth.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Wow, what I'm just saying. I thought
Speaker 1: you would to say, gotten his eyes. No, if it
Speaker 1: would have got his eye, that had been crazy, had
Speaker 1: that pink eye?
Speaker 4: Right? No, So what is squirked? I need to hear y'all.
Speaker 1: Op, it's a mixture. It's not some pn it's a
Speaker 1: lot of pe. I've never squirted, so I'm a squirter.
Speaker 1: It's you never did me neither.
Speaker 4: Y'all be the best ones, the ones I aint never did.
Speaker 4: I don't give fuck with it. I like to see
Speaker 4: you when it's come out with her every reaction. I
Speaker 4: don't give a fuck what it is.
Speaker 1: So you think you can make anybody squirt? Yeah?
Speaker 3: They like from Missioneer though, Oh you learn that from
Speaker 3: Missionary like twenty one?
Speaker 4: Yeah? No, no, no, he I learned that like probably
Speaker 4: like my late twenties.
Speaker 1: Your late twenties. Okay, so what's the secret?
Speaker 4: She? You got to stand up and you got to
Speaker 4: hit that lit spot.
Speaker 1: Down now, Yeah, okay, that's it.
Speaker 4: You got it. You got to hit that lift button.
Speaker 1: Do the curves matter? Like, if there's a curve.
Speaker 4: I don't know nothing about this.
Speaker 1: You don't have a curve.
Speaker 4: No, I ain't got No, you don't have a curve.
Speaker 1: I feel like every guy has. No, they don't.
Speaker 4: I ain't got no curve, but I know how to
Speaker 4: I know how to heat the button.
Speaker 1: Okay, I experience squirre to here.
Speaker 5: I was with a man for a very long time,
Speaker 5: you hand. I was with a man for a very
Speaker 5: long time with.
Speaker 1: A curve that never made me squirt.
Speaker 5: I was with a man that for us having sex
Speaker 5: for the very first time, and he made me.
Speaker 1: Squirt a whole whole whole whole whole lot of times,
Speaker 1: like nineteen times. Okay, so you think that's straight, all right?
Speaker 5: He but what he did though, once he found that
Speaker 5: spot and knew like how to do it, he kept
Speaker 5: going back, kept going back, kept going back, and then
Speaker 5: it got to the point where he was not only
Speaker 5: finding it with his penis, he was finding it with
Speaker 5: his fingers.
Speaker 1: So it was just and I was a squirting on.
Speaker 1: You feel like you were like addicted to that. It
Speaker 1: didn't make you put up with more from a man
Speaker 1: if he could do that, No, I don't care to squirt.
Speaker 1: It's a orgasm. Is a orgasm that mess up if
Speaker 1: you want to.
Speaker 4: So what keep you with a man? Man?
Speaker 1: Honesty and chemistry. Of course, the chemistry is at.
Speaker 4: The time, what if you brutally honest.
Speaker 5: Though I'm brutally honest, I feel like she can handle that.
Speaker 5: She can like I think, so, I'm I'm I'm brutally
Speaker 5: honest about you.
Speaker 1: I need you to be respectfully honest.
Speaker 6: I don't even I think I need you to be
Speaker 6: more transparent like to me, there's a difference between that
Speaker 6: and honesty, Like if you don't like what I'm wearing,
Speaker 6: I don't want to know. But if you don't like
Speaker 6: me hanging out with so and so, I want you
Speaker 6: to let me know.
Speaker 1: And to me, that's different to tell.
Speaker 4: You that you're wearing some holy shit, but you no.
Speaker 1: I don't even mean that.
Speaker 6: I don't like even if I'm dressed like this and
Speaker 6: you don't like my outfit, like if I'm comfortable with it,
Speaker 6: I want to value me being comfortable, comfortable, and happy
Speaker 6: over what you're telling me. Something that doesn't matter, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. But if it's something that is
Speaker 6: actually hard, I don't.
Speaker 4: Want my woman to looking silly.
Speaker 1: That's a good point.
Speaker 3: I would like for you to tell me if my
Speaker 3: outfit is not flattering or whatever it.
Speaker 6: Is in a way like I don't want to it's
Speaker 6: different than your ship looks like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: Like brutally honest to me.
Speaker 1: Associated a level of it's how you say it. Cruel
Speaker 1: is not what you do. Is how you do it,
Speaker 1: not what you say, it's how you say that.
Speaker 4: Type of person though, like she seems like she she
Speaker 4: got the demeanor to be brutally honest. You could be
Speaker 4: brutal and you could probably still be soft with her
Speaker 4: at the same time, but like you got to be.
Speaker 1: Like soft brutal.
Speaker 4: You might not date me again.
Speaker 1: No, not even chase you for going to a black.
Speaker 4: Chase what you want the car and get away?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you will never speak again. You did that. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pick you up for that one. They're like, girl,
Speaker 1: yeah we got away from my Yeah that's okay, that's different.
Speaker 3: I probably wouldn't say anything, but I wouldn't with you
Speaker 3: again exactly. It's a good story for my friends. Like girl,
Speaker 3: but because I got too much to you got to
Speaker 3: Yeah I got damn, but I wouldn't telling.
Speaker 4: You but no, nothing. What about the personal side of it, though.
Speaker 1: Why would you do that to me? I think if
Speaker 1: you cared about me, you wouldn't put me in that position.
Speaker 4: We need.
Speaker 1: It's a fun Okay, we leave the club.
Speaker 4: I'm on federal probation.
Speaker 1: Okay, I got some weed in the car. He's not
Speaker 1: really illegal anything.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, on federal probation, idiot, because you got
Speaker 4: a gun in the car.
Speaker 1: Okay, I got the car okay.
Speaker 4: And not got Angela. You God damn. And I didn't
Speaker 4: think that. And I didn't even not know it was
Speaker 4: a gun in here until somebody colin told me it
Speaker 4: was a gun in here. Police get behind us. We
Speaker 4: in haircat. I got to do what I got to.
Speaker 4: Donna get us away. I don't we get away like
Speaker 4: wet be my friend, But what are your friends?
Speaker 1: I'm not right, take an uber home, but take person taking.
Speaker 5: What if you were just like not you like just
Speaker 5: a female, not the female that got all of this
Speaker 5: to lose the famous person.
Speaker 1: But what if you was just his bitch?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. But it can actually happen.
Speaker 4: But act you have left the club for this two
Speaker 4: times one night, and we just what if? What if
Speaker 4: we in the spectrum when I'm in the New Roads,
Speaker 4: She liked it, and she said, well, let me get
Speaker 4: a ride. We all going to the same place anyway,
Speaker 4: and then.
Speaker 1: Okay, but we got away.
Speaker 4: We got away again. But I ain't getting in young
Speaker 4: no more.
Speaker 1: I didn't seen that. Shit happened.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say who it was, but oh wow,
Speaker 3: but listen, oh wow. I'm not gonna say who was
Speaker 3: I think exactly what was in Atlanta? You know what
Speaker 3: I'm talking about? Okay, years somebody was driving the van.
Speaker 3: Somebody in there, un named.
Speaker 1: Rapper had a gun. The cops is and he wasn't
Speaker 1: supposed to.
Speaker 3: Cops came, he know, got out of the van and
Speaker 3: ran and the other person driving got locked up for
Speaker 3: the gun.
Speaker 1: That was a wild time. But I'm not listen.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but that is not my life. Maybe when
Speaker 3: I was younger, probably not. Yeah, Jordan's not.
Speaker 4: I had to do that.
Speaker 1: I get that. I get that. I'm just saying, why
Speaker 1: did I need.
Speaker 4: To be in it? Because I couldn't stop, You couldn't
Speaker 4: get out.
Speaker 1: We would call your girlfriend and be like, come get him.
Speaker 1: He almost got us locked up, and I would be
Speaker 1: if I I we.
Speaker 3: Would be concerned for you too. We would be like, listen,
Speaker 3: you don't need to be doing that. You need a
Speaker 3: higher security. You have too much time.
Speaker 1: Get a driver put in. We would be like, you
Speaker 1: don't need to be even driving.
Speaker 3: How you Okay, Now let's just say you and I'm
Speaker 3: driving and I have a gun in the car, then
Speaker 3: I'm not supposed to have No, you're not even supposed
Speaker 3: to be around.
Speaker 4: You got to be licensed.
Speaker 1: I'm not licensed.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't supposed to being around you.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get in What are you not even
Speaker 1: getting in the car and we're all up in the car.
Speaker 4: No, I moved right, I don't move. I don't move
Speaker 4: with me. But you don't know I have it?
Speaker 1: Huh you didn't know it? Just like the same situation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh I'm not. I'm not. I'm not a whip
Speaker 4: of nine twenty two g in federal prison. You have
Speaker 4: to be knowing and willingly to be around.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you if I got that, I got in
Speaker 1: the car with you.
Speaker 4: Yes, I know the whole statue. Like they almost took
Speaker 4: my life away from me, so I had to learn this.
Speaker 4: Like so like if I get in the car and
Speaker 4: I don't know you have it, I don't have nothing
Speaker 4: to do with.
Speaker 3: It, okay, but let's just say it's still about Yeah,
Speaker 3: you just gave us this scenario.
Speaker 1: Now you're trying to make it way different for you.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, that's why, that's why we got That's
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Damn baby, like have some understanding, Like, damn baby performed
Speaker 4: for his freedom.
Speaker 1: What is you got us?
Speaker 4: The funk out of there, baby.
Speaker 5: Say.
Speaker 3: The cop is like, look, I'm gonna let you go,
Speaker 3: but I need you to take that two fifty. It's
Speaker 3: a woman cop, And she said, I need you to
Speaker 3: just take that too fifty and go to work and
Speaker 3: we'll just act like this never happens.
Speaker 4: Everything. I don't get nothing.
Speaker 3: We yall have five infire lives and moment. But listen
Speaker 3: art of board the twenty second that is out. Make
Speaker 3: sure y'all picked that up honestly, like you already see
Speaker 3: what he's like in real life.
Speaker 1: And I know this album is.
Speaker 5: Me Yeah from off just well compared to the last time, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I definitely see some.
Speaker 4: Growth compared to the things you heard, the things you
Speaker 4: see everything well.
Speaker 5: Being as though this is my second time speaking with you,
Speaker 5: I definitely see growth from the last time, which I
Speaker 5: commend you on the fact that you were so willing
Speaker 5: and eager to hear and ask questions and move forward
Speaker 5: with our therapist friend. I commend you on that, and
Speaker 5: I feel like I want to see more. I want
Speaker 5: to see you take this and go to the next
Speaker 5: level and keep going because I know you got.
Speaker 4: It in you. Pray for me. Yeah, yeah, pray for me.
Speaker 1: No, I love that.
Speaker 3: And I can see you already, like you open to
Speaker 3: a lot of things. We had the whole therapy session conversation.
Speaker 3: I think you would love it.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: Tell us about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna come back or I'm gonna put
Speaker 4: on my stoward or something and that they work.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna hold you to you said last time.
Speaker 4: What I said?
Speaker 1: Last time, you said you was gonna have a baby
Speaker 1: on the couch with you.
Speaker 4: What baby baby was in the room. She oh, you know,
Speaker 4: she on a federal can. But next time, y'all.
Speaker 1: See her next time.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah, that situation. But this baby though, like.
Speaker 1: She real like I don't think we forgotten remember she she.
Speaker 4: She one thousand man, She she got a good heart.
Speaker 3: She might not be perfect, but she got Yeah, who
Speaker 3: is perfect, perfect, and perfect for you is different.
Speaker 5: What I love for you is that you have that,
Speaker 5: because so many men don't, so many younger men, especially
Speaker 5: so many rappers, so many people in the industry, athletes
Speaker 5: and everybody, so many people in the spotlight let's say
Speaker 5: that don't have that, and they out here searching for
Speaker 5: what they missing, and they're getting themselves jammed up. So
Speaker 5: the fact that you have that and you big her
Speaker 5: up so much and you love her so much better.
Speaker 4: See, this is what I want you to understand. What
Speaker 4: I did though. See I didn't go get a rapper
Speaker 4: female I could have. I've been in a relationship, I've
Speaker 4: been in situation where rapper females. I've been in situation
Speaker 4: with females or they got status or whatever whatever. For
Speaker 4: some weird reason, they tend to move wrong.
Speaker 1: What's moving wrong?
Speaker 4: They can't be taught. They feel like they know everything.
Speaker 4: They can't like you can't talk to them, like you
Speaker 4: try to talk to them, and they feel like because
Speaker 4: they already didn't been around such and such and did
Speaker 4: this and singing this and made this amount of money,
Speaker 4: that they can't be taught. That they can't It ain't
Speaker 4: nothing that you can tell them. And then the new
Speaker 4: generation of women they just frown upon me in automatically anyway.
Speaker 4: So I didn't want it. So what I did was
Speaker 4: I was blessed enough to find somebody that was not famous,
Speaker 4: not all the way financially stable, but was gorgeous, had
Speaker 4: a good personality, had a whole lot of potential, and
Speaker 4: was genuine from from the first day. And uh and
Speaker 4: and a lot of women I meet and I liked it.
Speaker 4: Like one thing she did is show me she was genuine.
Speaker 4: Was like, say, I meet a woman that of a
Speaker 4: caliber bit you know, they not going really too fast
Speaker 4: or exposed to me or what they going through or
Speaker 4: or or you know, and I'm that type of person.
Speaker 4: Like I could meet a person and if they asked me,
Speaker 4: like I'm not gonna tell you, but like if you
Speaker 4: ask me you're going through somebody t you, I ain't
Speaker 4: gonna lie. Boy. I just got damn ran into so
Speaker 4: off the top. That made a lot for me. Like
Speaker 4: as soon as we met, it was like usually I
Speaker 4: ride to music, we smoke, we kick it. It was
Speaker 4: like a testimony conversation, like and I got a testimony
Speaker 4: like so like just to hear the testimony and to
Speaker 4: read the body language and to see that it was
Speaker 4: genuine and to see that it was a woman. I
Speaker 4: was in the presence of a woman who who had potential,
Speaker 4: who just didn't had a hard situation dealing with like
Speaker 4: and just learning like me. It just touched me, like,
Speaker 4: you know, like because everybody didn't grow up with it.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you appreciated her the way you
Speaker 1: should from?
Speaker 4: Nah? I didn't. I didn't even appre like. I liked
Speaker 4: her and I wanted her for me. I knew I
Speaker 4: wasn't ready. But the reason why she respects me and
Speaker 4: love me is because I let her know I wasn't ready,
Speaker 4: which her No, I wasn't ready, Like this is what
Speaker 4: I do, Like, this is what I'm gonna do. I
Speaker 4: ain't gonna beat her. I'm fresh out of jail. I've
Speaker 4: been gone five years. I've been on four months now.
Speaker 4: If you can deal with this. But the blessing is
Speaker 4: I got good energy and I could tell if a
Speaker 4: person is not feeling it.
Speaker 1: So when did you know you were ready? What was
Speaker 1: the turning point for you? Sometimes it's when you almost lose.
Speaker 4: It, Either when you almost lose it or when you
Speaker 4: feel like me, I just felt like I was just
Speaker 4: becoming a man like and I'm like, shit, I got
Speaker 4: a woman. They're like women, they little women? Why not
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, Why why should I
Speaker 4: have to you know what I'm saying? So this at
Speaker 4: this point, it was like it's really disrespectful at their point.
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, Like you could have
Speaker 1: it all? Why are you outside?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like you can still do what?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like you know, one of
Speaker 4: them type of women.
Speaker 1: You think you're ever not want to be with other
Speaker 1: women too? Do you think she'll ever not want to
Speaker 1: be the other woman?
Speaker 4: Because like she she got a high six drive and
Speaker 4: like she she she throughout our relationship, we probably had
Speaker 4: like two or three threesomes. Yeah, so she's not really
Speaker 4: like just super just, but like she likes women, like
Speaker 4: she likes the relationship like it's bigger than six. Well,
Speaker 4: when they come to.
Speaker 1: The woman, I'm the opposite don't want. I don't want
Speaker 1: the companionship from a woman.
Speaker 5: I don't want to cuddle after we make each other come,
Speaker 5: I just want to do that and then we God,
Speaker 5: that's what I'm thinking, right, it's her sex higher than yours.
Speaker 1: Yeah, four rounds immediately?
Speaker 4: Yeah do you sometimes? Yeah? And but but that is
Speaker 4: what I'm trying to tell me. Fall in love with
Speaker 4: her though, because everything that I was like that every
Speaker 4: woman you can't tell no one. She never tell me
Speaker 4: no they be feeling the type of way she don't.
Speaker 4: It's like she she I'm over understanding. I'm one of
Speaker 4: the type of people that, like, you could be going
Speaker 4: through something and I over and like I can, I
Speaker 4: can go above and beyond to make you feel comfortable.
Speaker 4: She the same way, like if I say no, it
Speaker 4: ain't no attitude, it ain't no. If I just say
Speaker 4: I just want some head, like she's cool with it,
Speaker 4: like she ain't. She ain't feeling, she ain't feeling bad
Speaker 4: after it.
Speaker 2: She ain't.
Speaker 4: To that though.
Speaker 1: What if she tell you that speak the same? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What if she says to you, I just want some head.
Speaker 4: I'm saying if you like, if you listen, if you
Speaker 4: call me like this, the thing like if she caught me,
Speaker 4: she know, like she can kiss me, like when I
Speaker 4: miss her when I've been gone for five days a week,
Speaker 4: I ain't saying them. I'm finna eat that ass?
Speaker 1: Okay that ass? Yeah okay, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's dead like the type of time. But like
Speaker 4: you know, I ain't I ain't trying to be eating
Speaker 4: no ass here day though, right.
Speaker 1: Not every day, just when you've been gone for a
Speaker 1: few days.
Speaker 4: Nah, I got fives, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But and you did that juice fast before other fruits
Speaker 1: and I did, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Did, and it felt good and it was it wasn't
Speaker 4: even as hard as I thought it was.
Speaker 5: I got a question, kind of off subject, But what
Speaker 5: made you decide to cut your hair? Was that part
Speaker 5: of the evolution?
Speaker 4: Nah, I'm growing it back like my.
Speaker 1: It's not as short as it was at first.
Speaker 4: I coult my hair because I wanted a full head
Speaker 4: of her like I had, like the the pushback line
Speaker 4: all the way around. I ain't want it was like
Speaker 4: in a mohawk loan. So you're going back to the braids,
Speaker 4: and I'm going back. You like the braid.
Speaker 1: I think you look more.
Speaker 5: I think I think when you first cut your hair,
Speaker 5: it gave you a more polished, grown up not so
Speaker 5: good nigga.
Speaker 4: Look so like you like the waves.
Speaker 1: No, you're still in that you're still in that range
Speaker 1: of like, you know, suit and tie. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Not I mean not with all the jewely on,
Speaker 1: but I'm talking.
Speaker 5: From the neck of you know what I'm saying, I'm
Speaker 5: pretty finessed. Yeah, like almost corporate, almost go corporate with that.
Speaker 5: You can't go corporate with them, so you don't have
Speaker 5: to go corporate.
Speaker 4: So what image prefer?
Speaker 1: What makes you happy?
Speaker 4: Everything?
Speaker 1: Like you like the braids because you're growing them back.
Speaker 4: I'm growing it baker because I feel like my heir
Speaker 4: is my strength. There's just some ship I.
Speaker 1: Got that's that that that juice fast probably helped your
Speaker 1: hair grow to.
Speaker 4: Yah, But I got this what sugar, actually got this
Speaker 4: oil that's finna come out. My girl, I invested in
Speaker 4: her some or it's called oh so clever. It's not
Speaker 4: even after my daughter. My daughter name is clever. And
Speaker 4: she been using this all for like six months from
Speaker 4: the girl who make it, and she fired and I
Speaker 4: use her or your hair grow. She got it for
Speaker 4: the babies, she got it for the she got a
Speaker 4: hold like a baby thing. So we went into business
Speaker 4: together and so we got so clever. So it's it's
Speaker 4: it's it's her growth, the shampoo condition and everything. Yes
Speaker 4: that mama not forget her because Mama and Sugar get
Speaker 4: there and sold it because it's actually some real good oil.
Speaker 4: We all use it.
Speaker 1: Looks well, look if this is a testamenty to that.
Speaker 3: Right advertising you want to tell because.
Speaker 4: You know, but yo yo yo yo, Yeah, Sugar, there's
Speaker 4: my dog. There's my dog. There's my dog.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, thank you so much for coming once again.
Speaker 3: Ardur woar November twenty second. I can't wait when the
Speaker 3: next time you come on with what's going to be
Speaker 3: happening then, because every single.
Speaker 1: Time it's a level another level of lot. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: love you.
Speaker 4: Know you've been trying to get in, Sugar.
Speaker 1: By that means they're trying to get a city.
Speaker 4: I think it was Miami.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you would do it, if Sugar want to
Speaker 1: do it, you would do it.
Speaker 4: To a certain extent.
Speaker 1: Okay, I get you.
Speaker 4: I want to just be like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: like because I still like I'm a real good rapper,
Speaker 4: like we know fan base, and I got like a career.
Speaker 4: I want to I feel like loving Pop is a career.
Speaker 4: Maybe his people have been on the fifteen years.
Speaker 1: You know, coming amazing.
Speaker 4: I'm there.
Speaker 1: Like Trina, you know that she's not a super long
Speaker 1: like she already made her Yeah, and it really it's
Speaker 1: all about and this is what I have to learn
Speaker 1: to It's all about the women.
Speaker 3: You guys are just like the sauce. You know that
Speaker 3: you don't got to be on there all the time.
Speaker 3: It's about the women.
Speaker 4: That's like the fact that I have two three women
Speaker 4: at the time what they like. But like, like I said,
Speaker 4: I'm leaving it up to shore. I'm done.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm done, Like, but you make your appearances on
Speaker 1: there for sure.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about I'm done with the women.
Speaker 1: He's monogamous now, yeah, still get down. Did she brings somebody?
Speaker 4: If she do it?
Speaker 1: But it's not your choice.
Speaker 4: I feel like I feel like I'm you got to
Speaker 4: invest a lot of time and energy and a person
Speaker 4: when you're dealing with them and when you bring them home,
Speaker 4: when you bring around your kids, and when you dealing
Speaker 4: with them day to day. You got to invest a
Speaker 4: lot of time and energy. And when they go bad.
Speaker 4: M Yeah, and it's like the third time and it
Speaker 4: went bad for me. So and she always said, I
Speaker 4: told you let me you. I tell you what YouTube.
Speaker 1: Yeah she probably got a better discernment. Yeah, choose better
Speaker 1: than you.
Speaker 4: So next time y'all see me, we might right, not
Speaker 4: even in her field. Whatever she want to do, all.
Speaker 1: Right, with a revolving door.
Speaker 3: But thank you again, and listen, you're always welcome up here.
Speaker 3: We have such a great time chopping it up with you.
Speaker 3: And next time when you come back and you check
Speaker 3: in with us after the therapy and we see a
Speaker 3: whole nother level unlocked, that's gonna be amazing, amazing.
Speaker 4: Right, all right, nice to see y'all. Yeah, nice to
Speaker 4: meet you. We love that.
Speaker 1: I can't believe he smoked that whole thing right here.
Speaker 4: I could, damn And I was getting hot. I get
Speaker 4: to talking, I get to get hot, ship
Speaker 1: Right, but you're at first it slip service to