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Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass, an i Heeart

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Speaker 1: radio podcast. Hello, my little Peanuts, it's me your host,

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Speaker 1: Lance Bass. This is Frosted Tips with Guess what Lance

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Speaker 1: bast and my lovely co host Michael Turkey Turchin.

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Speaker 2: Oh stopped, Lance Bass.

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Speaker 1: Happy summer, Michael Turchin, Oh my god, Happy summer, Lance

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Speaker 1: Bas had a great summer so far.

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Speaker 3: It's yeah, although it has not felt like it's been summer,

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Speaker 3: and well, it.

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Speaker 1: Finally got California room finally because it was rainy and

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Speaker 1: cold for nine months here for literally the entire year,

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Speaker 1: so which I actually really enjoy.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's nice sometimes, but like I'd like at least

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Speaker 3: like a weekend or two of sun yeah and warmth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But you know, trust me, we're gonna get plenty

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Speaker 1: of heat in sunhow so I kind of enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: I love a rainy day. I saw what I miss

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Speaker 1: me too about living in the South when we were

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Speaker 1: in Texas a few weeks ago. It was an amazing things.

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Speaker 2: I love a thunder god.

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Speaker 3: I miss him so sometimes I just want to be

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Speaker 3: at home, all cozy with a big thunderstore, like shaking

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Speaker 3: the house store, not a Thunderstore, thunderstorm, and yeah, I

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Speaker 3: miss that.

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Speaker 1: It's the best. We were also saying, no, we do

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Speaker 1: so good at trying to be healthy. Yeah, and then

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Speaker 1: we'll get in these little bouts of working out sometimes

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Speaker 1: like two months in a row, like we're doing like, wow,

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Speaker 1: four times a week, this is amazing, and then you

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Speaker 1: miss one day.

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Speaker 3: No, it's because we go on vacation for more than

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Speaker 3: a couple of days, go on like two weeks, and

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Speaker 3: then it's like, well, it's two weeks of not doing anything,

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Speaker 3: and it's hard to get back into it.

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Speaker 1: It is. I what motivates me is if I've worked out,

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Speaker 1: you know, several days in a row, and then I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm into it, like I'm not going to stop. But

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Speaker 1: then if I skip a few days, like day or another,

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Speaker 1: I'm out of it. I've already yeah, I've wasted too much.

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Speaker 1: And now I yeah, because I gain a lot. I'm

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Speaker 1: gaining a lot of weight back though I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm diabetic, and you know, I've been trying to figure

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Speaker 1: this out, but I've I lost so much weight because

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Speaker 1: of the medication I'm on. But now I'm figuring it

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Speaker 1: out and I'm gaining the weight back, which means I

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Speaker 1: got to get back onto my cardio.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you needed to gain a few pounds, not that

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Speaker 3: you needed to, but you keep saying.

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Speaker 1: I just it's about it's about your inards. At this point,

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Speaker 1: at this age, you're just you're thinking about your inwards,

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Speaker 1: your inards. Guys, you don't know what an innurd is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course I do, especially your heart because that's an inerd. Right,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to have to plastic surgery on the heart. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can't keep that young. No, let's not do that.

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Speaker 1: What are we talking about? This is weird today on

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Speaker 1: the show. I'm so excited Joey McIntyre is here. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean I am a blockhead. That was the first

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Speaker 1: pop group that I just you know, loved my sister

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Speaker 1: with so the New Kids and I got to see

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Speaker 1: them in concert in ninety two ninety three, and I've

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Speaker 1: loved them ever since. There's such an influence.

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Speaker 3: For in I mean, if they were around, I don't

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Speaker 3: think and Sink wouldn't have been I mean maybe not

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Speaker 3: well because lou Pelman started because of New Kids on

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Speaker 3: the blog, that's right, maybe not talking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's just so crazy. I think we did

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Speaker 1: talk about that with Donnie or someone. Yeah, but yet

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Speaker 1: you're right, if it wasn't for new kids and Sink

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Speaker 1: would not be here, and if they wouldn't have split

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Speaker 1: uh in ninety four ninety five, we would not be

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Speaker 1: be around because that's when backs you boys lurched in crazy?

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Speaker 2: Was that?

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Speaker 1: Is that part of the butterfly effect? Like just little

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Speaker 1: weird things happen in life and it just changes every

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Speaker 1: course of history. Yes, yeah, all right, before we get

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Speaker 1: to Joey, I think you have a hot topic question

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Speaker 1: for me. We're gonna start doing the hot seat question.

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Speaker 1: That's what it is. I don't know what it is

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Speaker 1: you do, and it better be good. Okay.

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Speaker 3: I could probably give some options for answers for you

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Speaker 3: with this question. What is one job in your career

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Speaker 3: do or could have done differently?

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Speaker 1: Jobs in my career that I wish I would have

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Speaker 2: That was I was about to say nineties House.

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Speaker 1: That was just such a like what the hell was that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: The promises I was made on that show? That was

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Speaker 1: low Budge and then I'm like, did was this a

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Speaker 1: ten dollars show? What the hell is this piece of crap?

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Speaker 3: It was like a show that should have like it

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Speaker 3: was like, oh, it could only be viewed on a.

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Speaker 1: And just the way that they bear and also the

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Speaker 1: way that they suckered me and Christina Milion into doing it,

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Speaker 1: I know, and now I was just like what it

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Speaker 1: was a little bait and switch there. Yeah. Another one I.

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Speaker 3: Think which I wish you wish you could have done

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Speaker 3: differently was Finding Prince Charming because it was a great idea,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, different casting, different network, like you just made needed.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the problem with with LGBT shows, And I

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Speaker 1: mean they're getting better. I mean there's lots more opportunities,

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Speaker 1: a lot more diversity. Yeah, but back then when there

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Speaker 1: was not even besides Rup Paul, there was no LGBT

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Speaker 1: show on the problem is all these shows created are

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Speaker 1: just copies of shows. So ours was you know The Bachelor, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the exact format. It's like, okay, we've seen this, we

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Speaker 1: can take a straight format and just turn it and

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Speaker 1: they just make them. It just didn't No one thought

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Speaker 1: it was authentic. Everyone's like, okay, boring but yeah, I

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Speaker 1: would do that one. Because there's one show that they're

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Speaker 1: definitely going to bring to the States. It's very popular

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Speaker 1: now in England and I Kissed a Boy. It's a

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Speaker 1: new dating reality show that's supposed to be a little

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Speaker 1: love Island dish, but people are really love.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna say. You could do a gay love Island

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Speaker 3: that would actually well, this is it. I Kissed a Boy.

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Speaker 1: So if that comes to America, I will definitely throw

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Speaker 1: my name in the hat for that host because there's

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Speaker 1: no doubt that that will be coming over here. And

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Speaker 1: I've never seen it. I really don't know the format,

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Speaker 1: but I know that people are loving it, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: hopefully that'll come over And I've set.

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Speaker 2: Yay, I love a good manifestation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're listening to me England. Yeah, this show, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure they're already like got their host for America. All right, guys,

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Speaker 1: when we come back, we are going to have singer,

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Speaker 1: songwriter actor the youngest member of n K O t B.

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Speaker 1: Joey McIntyre's here's so excited You've been asked and is

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Speaker 1: here and he's number four. We're going to finish the

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Speaker 1: first boy band on this series. Soon if we can

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Speaker 1: get Danny, can get Danny. Yeah, so Danny, we gotta

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Speaker 1: do it. Of course he's listening. He listens to every show.

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Speaker 1: It's true. He is the biggest. Right now, it's always

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Speaker 1: Taylor Beyonce. I mean, it's it's embarrassing how much that

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Speaker 1: they reach out to us wanting to be on the show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I would love to have Bece. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: He's a teen idol and a boy band or t

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Speaker 1: title that's all you know? Girl band? No, I mean,

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Speaker 1: right now we're going to boy bands, but a good

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Speaker 1: Beyonce would just be okay, never happening. Give her a

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Speaker 1: call so she'll do it. Okay, I'll color all right,

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Speaker 1: we'll be back. All right, everyone. We are super excited

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Speaker 1: to have our next guest on the show today, all right.

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Speaker 1: Joseph Laury McIntyre is an American singer, songwriter, and actor.

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Speaker 1: He is best known as the youngest member of the

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Speaker 1: pioneering boy band New Kids on the Block. He has

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Speaker 1: sold over a million records worldwide as a solo artist

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Speaker 1: and worked in film, television, stage, including performing on Broadway.

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Speaker 1: And I have to say congratulations Joe for winning Best

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Speaker 1: Replacement and wicked on what was that website?

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Speaker 2: Probably dot com Broadway dot com.

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Speaker 4: I believe you wrote you wrote this, although I heard

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Speaker 4: that we heard.

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Speaker 2: The welcome to Frosted to thank you. I'm messing with

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Speaker 2: your camera already.

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Speaker 1: That's okay, No one needs to see me at all.

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Speaker 1: Y'all have been killing it, I mean killing it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how many years have y'all been on this mixtape tour?

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Speaker 5: Well, I guess the last couple of tours have been

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Speaker 5: enough to to really put some great tours together and

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Speaker 5: they've always kind of had that vibe. We just really

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: But we have a very very good thing.

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Speaker 5: And we just finished our first block Con, which is

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Speaker 5: very cool.

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Speaker 1: Someone was just telling me, oh, Christina again, our friend

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Speaker 1: Christina who has a question for you? Later They said

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Speaker 1: it was incredible and they specifically said your set was amazing.

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Speaker 1: Whatever songs you chose everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's nice as you can imagine.

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Speaker 5: You keep I mean, we've been able to somehow keep

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Speaker 2: It's like a good marriage, I guess.

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Speaker 5: And you know, we have this crazy thing the cruise, right,

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Speaker 5: You gotta be there to believe it in the whole thing.

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Speaker 5: But this was a little bit different, and it's just

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Speaker 5: nice when the fans are like, oh my god, that

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Speaker 2: And it was great.

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Speaker 5: We did a lot of we did the We tried

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Speaker 5: to like what you know, the calm thing. Do you

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Speaker 5: know you have panels or what are the panels? And

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Speaker 5: one of the special things for me was we had

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Speaker 5: you know, it's lightning in a bottle, you know what

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Speaker 2: It it's like you've got to have all the pieces

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Speaker 5: And Doug Nichols, he's such a good guy and this

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Speaker 5: And you know he even talked about how we didn't

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Speaker 2: It was those things can be emotional, you know what

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Speaker 5: You don't even know where they come from, but they

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Speaker 5: you know, these having those people from your past come

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you probably learned a lot of things you

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Speaker 1: just didn't know as you're going through it. Was there

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he had a lot of He had a lot

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Speaker 1: I would never be worth anything because I literally take

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a pop tree. It's fun, all your

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Speaker 5: I'm right in Boston, So the new kids were from

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Speaker 5: They were looking around and I had been doing that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there's not a lot of I mean, I

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Speaker 5: going to go to school.

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00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,360
Speaker 2: But you know, you know, I.

441
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,200
Speaker 1: Love that so many bands like us have that that

442
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,159
Speaker 1: pop singer that's kind of like Tiffany, New Kids in

443
00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 1: Sync and Brittany it was nine eight degrees in Jessica Simpson.

444
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:38,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

445
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,679
Speaker 1: Actually, boys, they didn't have a pop princess. No Christina

446
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,880
Speaker 1: Aguilera was there for the picking and they didn't even

447
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:45,159
Speaker 1: do it.

448
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,920
Speaker 2: No B S B. But yeah, I always Germany. Germany

449
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:50,360
Speaker 2: was there.

450
00:20:52,720 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 1: You don't know, Blooms, but no, I know Bloom. Now

451
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 1: were you hesittant at all to join this group or

452
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 1: was it such an easy decision like, yeah, freaking doing this.

453
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 5: Oh. I was very hesitant because I had this nice,

454
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 5: little even community theater thing happening.

455
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 2: Definitely. I was twelve when I joined, so it was

456
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 2: like wow. So we slowly get into it, and it

457
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 2: wasn't easy. You know, it wasn't easy.

458
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 5: I mean you know now you know years later, you know,

459
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 5: it did tough of me up. I mean I had

460
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,159
Speaker 5: a really cushioned life. I was the youngest of nine kids.

461
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 1: You know.

462
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 5: My narrative was he's blessed, you know what I mean,

463
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 5: like we're going to take care of him, which was lovely.

464
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,200
Speaker 5: But this kind of you know, rough me up a

465
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,400
Speaker 5: little bit. And that's what life does to you, and you.

466
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 2: Learned from it.

467
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 1: You had to grow up quickly, Yeah, because I was

468
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 1: sixteen when I started, and I was so sheltered. You know.

469
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 1: I came from a very small town, never really left

470
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 1: Mississippi that much, and then all of a sudden, I

471
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 1: was just thrust into this crazy music industry, yeah, not

472
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 1: knowing what I was doing, and then moving over to

473
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 1: Germany where it was very open. Yeah, so, yeah, it was.

474
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 1: It was a crazy quick transition into adulthood at sixteen.

475
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: How long? But you moved to Orlando for a little bit.

476
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: Were Orlando. We moved there in ninety five, and then

477
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 1: it took us a year to finally get signed, you know,

478
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 1: to Germany. So we then went over there for two years,

479
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 1: and then we came to America in ninety eight. Yeah. Yeah,

480
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 1: so but I mean it was It's the way it

481
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 1: was supposed to happen, because if we came out in

482
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 1: America in ninety six when we wanted to, yea, we

483
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,199
Speaker 1: would have never got off there.

484
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 5: You were, you sort of like, we don't want to

485
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 5: go to Germany.

486
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 1: I didn't even know what I wanted, you know. I

487
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 1: was just happy we got a record deal, and it

488
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: was just confusing, like Germany, Yeah, do they even speak English?

489
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:38,959
Speaker 1: Like I just didn't get it.

490
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was.

491
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 5: That was.

492
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 2: I had a little peek into that.

493
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 5: Remember that I was on a like a private jet

494
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 5: with you somewhere to Germany. I mean, yes, I mean

495
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 5: Joey and I Chris talk about it quite often.

496
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 2: We had a lot of laughs. I mean, you guys

497
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 2: are so funny.

498
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 1: Right away off the back, you know, what was your

499
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: first impressions of us, because like, when did you hear that.

500
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 2: You were funny? That you were funny? I mean, I

501
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 2: didn't really.

502
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 5: Know the Backstreet Boys that well, and because I for

503
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 5: a second I was talking to Loup Perlman in that world,

504
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 5: and of course Johnny Wright was partners with him, and

505
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,719
Speaker 5: and then I ended up not doing it, But in

506
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 5: that period of time of like you know, hanging out

507
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 5: with those guys, you guys were just moving over to

508
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 5: Germany and I think like your first single was just

509
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 5: coming out there.

510
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 2: So I was there when you It was a.

511
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 5: Big an Award show and it was like your you know,

512
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 5: first time and you're just funny. You guys were super,

513
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 5: super funny.

514
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 2: We were ready to have a good time, and we

515
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 2: were still were still wearing those that lycra bike shirt

516
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 2: you know the type.

517
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, slinky shirts yeah before your identity Yeah yeah.

518
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: Because that was our very first video that Lou Proman

519
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 1: was so excited all in front of green screen and

520
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: then yeah, those little slinky shirts, which of course we

521
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: couldn't afford wardrobe, so we just had those from the video.

522
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: So we wore those every single performance in Germany. And

523
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: they would stink so bad because we only had we

524
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 1: didn't have backups. Was it you want one time sweating it?

525
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 1: Hopefully you can wash it that night. My mom, Justin's

526
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: mom was on the road with us, So they did

527
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: Launts slinky shirt like that.

528
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, there were a lot of that had like stripes

529
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 2: on them too.

530
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Then we we graduated to fresher

531
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: slinky shirt. Yes, once we got you know, a little

532
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: budget from the rend.

533
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 3: Then you graduated to like the most baggy, ill fitting

534
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 3: clothes ever, well, at least you put you They were

535
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 3: like the last to.

536
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: Be dressed because I didn't care, like whatever, and then I, oh,

537
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: well we have these uh size forty four us that

538
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 1: you know, uh, And so I was just always in

539
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: just horrible baggy stuff.

540
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 2: How do you feel about being that? Are you? Are

541
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 2: you okay with that era or like fashion wise? I am?

542
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: Now. Then I just thought it was horrible. Yeah, living

543
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 1: in it because you know, the twenties, the fifties, the sixties,

544
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,479
Speaker 1: the seventies, eighties, it had such a vibe and you

545
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 1: know exactly what that is. You can look at a

546
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: picture and be like, no, the decade. Yeah, living in

547
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: the nineties, you're thinking, what the hell is this? Yeah,

548
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: I even think this is awful. Now twenty years from now,

549
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: look at like, what the hell are we doing? Okay,

550
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 1: and I do look a lot like I still don't

551
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: understand some of the things we wore, but now I

552
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: think it's kind of fun and ironic to wear that stuff.

553
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: But in the time super popular.

554
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 2: Now like the nineties, well makes sense.

555
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, the kids, you know, they just identify with you know,

556
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 5: certain things.

557
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 3: I'm still like, that's still ill fitting, Yeah, it's.

558
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 2: Still ill so many ways.

559
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, did you all? I mean, because y'all

560
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: actually had good style, especially we did.

561
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 5: I mean, we had a combination of trying to make

562
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 5: it happen on our own before we had money. Donnie

563
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 5: used to work at a sneaker store and he would

564
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 5: get all our outfits for like a bit of a

565
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 5: discount for every show.

566
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:00,719
Speaker 2: We tried to pull it together.

567
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 5: I mean, Danny, Donnie and Jordan would wear each other's clothes.

568
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 5: So we we just saw a batch of pictures and

569
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 5: you could see the same like different kids, you know,

570
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 5: And then we we had a couple of good stylists

571
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 5: early on, for like the those first four videos, and

572
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 5: it just worked.

573
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: It was like New York, you know, village, like really

574
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 2: cool you know spots down there. So it was a

575
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: good combination.

576
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: When you said the guy's names, it reminds me. I

577
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: don't know if you remember. Maybe it's just in my

578
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: hometown radio station that did this. But New Kids got

579
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 1: run over by Reindeer. Yes, okay, you've heard that one. Yeah,

580
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: because that was such a huge hit. Yeah, that's how

581
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 1: I knew your guy's names the first time. Was Danny, Donnie,

582
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: Jo John Jordan or was it Larry Curly Shepherd? That's yeah,

583
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: you made the country.

584
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 2: It was a country. The dude was country a little bit. Yeah,

585
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 2: he was very bringing that up. That really hit a

586
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: yeah one man.

587
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: No one. Now, at one point you said that you

588
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: wanted to quit the group early on. Yeah.

589
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 2: Early I was thirteen, and I was like right at.

590
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: The beginning, like it was Donnie huh.

591
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 2: No, it definitely was.

592
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 5: And he was the one who called me and like

593
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 5: convinced me to to stay on. It was it was

594
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 5: partly that, Yeah, it was that, but it was you know,

595
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 5: it just wasn't particularly fun, you know, and I was

596
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 5: just ready to move on and it wasn't there weren't

597
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 5: weren't incredibly high stakes at the at the time. Uh,

598
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 5: it was just I think a lot of kids might

599
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 5: second guests at thirteen, going, I don't know if this

600
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 5: is for me, but he, uh, he told me.

601
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 2: To hang in there, and and uh the rest is syst.

602
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: Dad of the group. And he's I mean, is he

603
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: responsible for y'all coming back in two thousand and eight? Like,

604
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: was he the first to call everybody?

605
00:27:59,200 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 4: Not?

606
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say no. I think it was a combination.

607
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 5: I mean he's a born leader, no question. I mean,

608
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 5: he started the group and you know, there's no debating

609
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 5: you know what he brings to the table, and he's

610
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 5: a great leader. But we all kind of step up

611
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 5: at different times. I mean we talked about you know,

612
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 5: we had a lot of conversations because lots of times

613
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 5: MTV would come to us and go, we want you

614
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 5: at our award show. You know, all these you know

615
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 5: one offs that you know they didn't and not that

616
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 5: they were supposed to figure it out, but we were

617
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 5: worth more than that, you know, and we knew our worth.

618
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: And especially if you're going to reunion that many years later,

619
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: it's got to be it's.

620
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 5: Got yeah, and on our own terms. And so that's

621
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 5: that's what we figured out. And I think we were

622
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 5: that was our you know, I think give usselves the

623
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 5: most credit in that department that we knew what we

624
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 5: had and if we were going to do what we

625
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 5: were going to do it right. So yeah, it was

626
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 5: a process of things. You know, we talked about it.

627
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 5: You know, we got I had I had met Jared Paul,

628
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 5: our manager, and I think, you know, especially for someone

629
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 5: like Donnie who's you know, has a lot of ideas

630
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 5: and likes to have his hands on the wheel a lot,

631
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 5: which you know, makes sense, you got to have the

632
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 5: right manager, and so I thought he.

633
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: Was the right guy.

634
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 5: So that that was a part of the puzzle as well,

635
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 5: and that's worked out.

636
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 2: So a lot of little things coming together.

637
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, was there a moment where you realized, oh my god,

638
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: we made it? Like was there that that one like wow,

639
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: light bulb moment?

640
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: You know, I was so young, you know what I'm saying.

641
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 5: So I didn't have this, you know, even young adult

642
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 5: experience of like oh this, this, this, this, and then

643
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 5: we did it and then pow, we got it. You know,

644
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 5: it wasn't that kind of experience you know, I still

645
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 5: enjoyed it, and it was amazing. We played the Apollo Theater,

646
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 5: like a lot of things came together. We please Uncle

647
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 5: Girl coming up the charts, you know, we performed at

648
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 5: the Apollo, We won the crowd over. There was a

649
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 5: lot of those moments that were like holy cow, and

650
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 5: that was special, you know, But I don't think it

651
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 5: was that, you know, that cinematic moment for me necessarily,

652
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I mean, And that's what

653
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 5: makes you know, us getting back together again after so

654
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 5: many years. And by the way, it's been fifteen years

655
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 5: since we got back together, so this time around it.

656
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: Is longer than the first time. And so and now

657
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: it's just about it's just about the moment.

658
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 5: I mean, I think we're all figuring that out, you

659
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 5: know what I mean collectively as a society and as people,

660
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 5: Like it's really about the day to day and like

661
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 5: how do we live our lives and how do we

662
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 5: soak up every moment and you know, putting yourself in

663
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 5: a position where you can enjoy those moments more and more.

664
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: Well, how do y'all sync up all your schedules because

665
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: everyone has such an individual live. Yeah, your priority obviously family, Yeah,

666
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: where new kids was always first position her whole life.

667
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: But now it's like I got bigger priorities.

668
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

669
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: How do y'all sync up your schedule? Is it you

670
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,719
Speaker 1: start at the beginning of the year, like, okay, these

671
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: are the three months that I can do this.

672
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 5: Well, it's super easy in the sense that Donnie's been

673
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 5: on Blue Bloods on CBS head show for fourteen years.

674
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: No, that's so it's crazy.

675
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 5: Crazy, Yeah, I mean, well twelve, twelve or thirteen years,

676
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 5: so those nine months are off the books, you know.

677
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 5: So it's always been a summer thing, and so we've

678
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 5: done every other summer basically, and then the down years

679
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 5: we kind of.

680
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: Keep the fires going with special events.

681
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 5: So that's been built in and easy for us, and

682
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 5: you know, for me, I mean, going over the last

683
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 5: fifteen years, I could tell you that, you know, six

684
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 5: or seven things I've done in that in theater and Broadway,

685
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 5: and now I'm finally fitting in some solo dates, which

686
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 5: is important for me, and you know it is it

687
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 5: is a balance. I mean, it's a wonderful problem to

688
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 5: have to balance, you know, my life and my desires

689
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 5: and wants with an incredibly successful career with the New Kids,

690
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah.

691
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: Now with your solo career that started ninety.

692
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 5: Nine, ninety nine, Yeah yeah, Jordan and I call it

693
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 5: the battle of ninety nine because we both had solo

694
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 5: albums out.

695
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: I mean they were both were huge, and TRL played

696
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: the crap.

697
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: I know, I know it was cool to be a

698
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: part of that.

699
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: But why wait, did when you were in the group

700
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: the first time, did you ever think because usually you know,

701
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you were the it guy. I mean you

702
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: were the young one that you were the heart throb.

703
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: Did ever do you ever think, you know, I want

704
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: to try a solo album during all of this hype too.

705
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: No, I don't think they saw me that way, and

706
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: I don't think I was ready anyways, And I think the.

707
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: Record would be like we're taking you out well, you.

708
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 5: Know, if you want to get into the weeds on that.

709
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 5: My voice had changed, so I was still it was

710
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 5: the worst way. Like I look at my son, who's

711
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 5: a singer, and like, oh, that's how you gently have

712
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 5: your voice change and keep singing, you know what I mean.

713
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: And now he's fifteen and a half, and.

714
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: How it must be. I mean, I've been watching your

715
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: son grow up an entertainment, incredible voice. I think he

716
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: was in the music video I did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

717
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: I mean, what what is his path right now? What

718
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: are you hoping that he gets to do in the

719
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: next few years.

720
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: I that he continues to learn his craft.

721
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 5: And and you know, I always say my wife and

722
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 5: I the biggest privilege we have is that we were

723
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 5: able to afford to put our kids in him, in particular,

724
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 5: in front of great teachers, in front of great mentors.

725
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what's more valuable than that.

726
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:04,239
Speaker 5: So he's he's he's studied under Debbie Allen since he

727
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 5: was two years old, you know what I'm.

728
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: Saying, And so he always wanted to be an entertainment

729
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: yeah he I don't think did you have a little

730
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: reservation at first, Like.

731
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 5: There's no, not not well, you know, it's really especially

732
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 5: you know, even in the eyes of the law. In

733
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 5: a few years, it's going to be none of my business,

734
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 5: you can, you know. But I have so much respect

735
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 5: for his talent. He the way he plays piano, the

736
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 5: way he's learning guitar, you know, the way he shows

737
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 5: up and he's he's like us, He's he's a he's

738
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 5: already a frustrated musician, you know what I mean, Like

739
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,959
Speaker 5: he's just there's no there's no plan.

740
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 2: B I don't think so, but you never know. I'm

741
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 2: just so.

742
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 5: He's doing exactly what I think. I I wish maybe

743
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 5: I would have done. You know, he's he's working because

744
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 5: if you can play, there's that you can't put a

745
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 5: number on that, you know, I mean, and and and

746
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 5: if you can accompany.

747
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: Yourself, that's that's it to me. And he's going to

748
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: be more than okay. And he's his own artist.

749
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: And like, you know what if Brian Latrelle came to

750
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 1: you and said, look, let's form the next big super

751
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: group of all of our kids. That are the perfect

752
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: age to start a new boy band. It's all like

753
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: iconic boy band members, their kids are starting a group.

754
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: Would he want to do that? And would you want

755
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: him to.

756
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 5: Do would he want to do I don't I'm not

757
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 5: so sure Griffin would want to do that. No, I

758
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 5: think he's too busy, you know, learning Neon by John Mayer,

759
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 5: and he's like he's like, I love his His two

760
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 5: bookends are Justin Bieber and John Mayer, which are pretty

761
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 5: awesome actually and and great examples.

762
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: But yeah. I think he's excited to just find his

763
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:54,479
Speaker 2: own path.

764
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, all right, cal Brian, we got cancel.

765
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 2: I want to say before we go an eat further.

766
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 5: I watched I haven't watched everybody, but I watched and

767
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,959
Speaker 5: listened to Jordan when he was on.

768
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 2: The show, and I loved it. And the thing about

769
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: our group.

770
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 5: Is, you know, you talk about Donnie and how much

771
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 5: of a leader he is, and he's a great storyteller

772
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 5: and really a force in that. And then I love

773
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 5: to tell my stories and I have my own take.

774
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 5: But when you have five kids, as you have five

775
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 5: kids in a group as you can relate to, it's

776
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 5: like there's only so much you can say, and people

777
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 5: take over, and then you're asking a question, You're like, well,

778
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 5: no one else is gonna say.

779
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: I'll keep talking. But it was so great to hear

780
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: Jordan's like, after.

781
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 5: All these years, we still have so many so much

782
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 5: to talk about, and so many sides of our story,

783
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 5: even personally, which is so wonderful. And I heard so

784
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 5: much stuff. You know, as a fan, you know, I'm

785
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 5: a fan of those guys. I'm a fan of my bandmates,

786
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 5: and like, it was so fun to hear.

787
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 2: That aspect, it was just really good.

788
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 5: And the same with John, Like we're also through for John,

789
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, like his passion and what

790
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 5: he's doing, and like it's pretty cool to be a

791
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 5: part of a band that like there's still so much there,

792
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 5: you know, to to to share and express and and well.

793
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: And also because there's so many times I'm talking to

794
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: other members of different groups in my group where I

795
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: thought the story was this way and it was completely

796
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: not what I like live through And it's crazy how

797
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: you your brain makes you remember things a completely different way. Yeah,

798
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: it's it's really weird.

799
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: It's very cool.

800
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: You know, we're old, that's what happens.

801
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 5: I also like that he very quietly dropped that we're

802
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 5: doing another album and another toy Nex.

803
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, like very we planned these things. Yeah, we plan

804
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 2: these things very quietly. We make it so it seems

805
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 2: like the fans decide.

806
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like that listens to you.

807
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: Just bringing out of people, You just bringing out of people.

808
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: It's very very tricky.

809
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, so I'm sure y'all have spent many holidays

810
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: on the road in the last you know, decades. My

811
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: first time not being home for Thanksgiving was a little

812
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: hard for me. You know, I was young, and I'm like,

813
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: you're so used to well, I'm home with my family,

814
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: and it was so weird for me to be in

815
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: Vegas for the first time doing Thanksgiving with all these

816
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: people from all over the world. And you know, it's

817
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: not the Thanksgiving dinner I usually have. There's now Italian

818
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: food at my Thanksgiving dinner. What that's weird?

819
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 2: That's not right, right? Yeah?

820
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 3: Thanks joe the other joe Y, Yeah.

821
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: Do you have any great memories of holidays on the road.

822
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 5: Well, this is probably a good version of that, because

823
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 5: actually we did in nineteen eighty nine.

824
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 2: We something we'd never do because you'd be like, when

825
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: are we going to sleep? How are we going to

826
00:38:59,280 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: do that?

827
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 5: It was Thanksgiving nineteen eighty nine. That night we played

828
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 5: Madison Square Garden, which I mean again goes to show

829
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 5: how popular we were because who plays Madison Square Garden

830
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 5: on Thanksgiving nights and where a kid act?

831
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 2: So it's like, how dare you? You know what I mean?

832
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 2: But of course it was sold out and everybody was there.

833
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 5: But we did the Thanksgiving Day parade that morning, and

834
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 5: so all of our families from Boston came down to

835
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 5: New York and so we did the Thanksgiving Day parade.

836
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 5: I still remember that, like nap. It was the greatest

837
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 5: snap I ever had in my life.

838
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: Was because Thanksgiving Day parade you either hate it or

839
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: love it. Did y'all have a good time.

840
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 2: I it was early.

841
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 5: I've done it once, you know again since you know,

842
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 5: and it was a little bit more fun.

843
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: But it was fun. I think it was.

844
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,479
Speaker 5: It's such an iconic thing, especially back then and still now.

845
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 5: So it was fun to be on a well you're

846
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 5: waving and you know, everybody looks goofy and that frickin things.

847
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: Does anybody ever look cool in the thanks really?

848
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? It was thirty degrees, yeah, raining it was just

849
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: it was yes, yes, but if it was nice weather,

850
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: yeah I could.

851
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: See, yeah it was. But we all came down like

852
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: and we come from big families.

853
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,720
Speaker 5: So we had a big dinner and I was actually

854
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 5: just remembering it and like afterwards, like there was a

855
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 5: grand piano in the hotel and Jordan's sitting down at

856
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 5: the piano and playing songs and we're all singing, and

857
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 5: then we go play Madison Square Garden that night.

858
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: That's that's pretty.

859
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: That's a pretty big sense. That's a good thing.

860
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: So that's pretty pretty special, remember that one. I think

861
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: I think overall it was just tough to be away.

862
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 5: You know, it's not it's not normal, right, it's not

863
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 5: normal like what we went through.

864
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: And the younger you are, the less normal it is.

865
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 5: And there is definitely some I mean for me anyways,

866
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 5: arrested development. You have for all the time that you

867
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 5: weren't in a regular school and hanging out with your

868
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 5: buddies and making dumb mistakes, you had to make up

869
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 5: for that at some point in your life, in which

870
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 5: I did, and luckily I had a safety net, and

871
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 5: you know, with family and I didn't.

872
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 2: You know, would you would you say?

873
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: Your family's what kept you so down to earth because

874
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: starting at twelve, Yeah, people get the Michael Jackson syndrome

875
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: of you know yes, yes, yes, yes, never hearing a no,

876
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: and they have no concept of reality. Uh and can

877
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: get really spoiled and you know, but with you, I

878
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: just see you very down to earth your whole entire career.

879
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

880
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: Is it the boys and the band?

881
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 2: Just no, it was both and I'm sure you can

882
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 2: relate to that.

883
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 5: I mean, when you have other band members and there's

884
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 5: five of you and your your equals for the most part,

885
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 5: you know, it's like you never get too big for

886
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 5: your breeches. Yeah, it's like you feel the heat when

887
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 5: you try to, you know, and you're like, like, what

888
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 5: did you just Yeah was the youngest. I have seven

889
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 5: older sisters and very strong women, So yeah, yeah, that

890
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 5: was That was part of that. And you know, it

891
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 5: was lucky enough to you know, have parents around that

892
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 5: you know, knew how much of a gift it was

893
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 5: and celebrated it.

894
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 2: But also, you know, you know that that being said.

895
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 5: We're all lucky right to have survived it, you know,

896
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 5: as much as all those things came together.

897
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 2: It's just like sometimes it feels like the luck of

898
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: the draw.

899
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: Did your band members hit on your sisters because they.

900
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 5: Were older and the guys in the band that were

901
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 5: looking for girls had elsewhere to look, you know?

902
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: So I just wonder if you were like, get away,

903
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: get away.

904
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: No, no, it's going no, no, no no.

905
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: Do you remember the first big purchase you made? Oh?

906
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, we all were excited to, you know,

907
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 5: do things for our family, you know what I mean,

908
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 5: and we we I wrote checks for my siblings and

909
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 5: bought a Cadillac for my dad, and yeah, I was cool.

910
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: What was your first big Toyota full Runner? And I

911
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: wanted like that was my dream car, you know when

912
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: I was a freshman in high school and I was like,

913
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 1: if I ever make it, I'm gonna get a Toyota

914
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: Full Runner. It's gonna be silver. And I did it. Oh,

915
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,479
Speaker 1: it took me a few years.

916
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 2: Ninety what it was probably.

917
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 1: It was a ninety probably ninety eight, ninety nine. Yeah,

918
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: and we finally got h little yeah paid, someone still

919
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: didn't cover it, but whatever. I had a good down

920
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: payment I put on it. Yeah, but yeah, that was

921
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 1: my first Like that's when I felt, oh, I'm an adult.

922
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: I bought my own car. I don't have a Buick

923
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,479
Speaker 1: Century anymore with a broken tail light. This is gonna

924
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: be big, guys, big. Do you remember your first car?

925
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: We all did a signing. This was very early on.

926
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 5: It was like our first summer on tour and someone

927
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 5: was like, there's a Suzuki Sidekick dealership. If you come

928
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 5: down and sign autographs for uh an hour, you can

929
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 5: have a Suzuki side Kick just for a month, though,

930
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 5: just for a month, just for a month, which for

931
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 5: a kid like, oh my god, and I just you know,

932
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 5: back then, I just hope my son doesn't because he's

933
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 5: doing it the right way. He's just like my son's

934
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 5: fifteen and a half, my oldest son, Griffin, and he

935
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 5: was counting the day so he could get his permit.

936
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 6: You know, some kids are like whatever, he was fifteen

937
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 6: and a half when you take the test, and now

938
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 6: he can drive with us in the car, and then

939
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 6: by sixteen he can drive like himself.

940
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: Which is scary because even I mean, our kids are

941
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: twenty months okay, And I keep thinking about it, and

942
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: I do not want them to drive a car. And

943
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, well, by the older man being a drivers

944
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: in cars, yeah, hopefully it's just gonna be automated. But

945
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: does that scare the crap out of you it?

946
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 5: I mean no, I can understand, like the thought of

947
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 5: it scares me, but when you're actually in it, it

948
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 5: doesn't totally.

949
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: And of course I'm driving around, I'm like, well, I

950
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: have to be a good example. And all I keep

951
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 2: saying is.

952
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 5: Don't do that, don't do that, don't do don't do

953
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 5: what I just did. But I trust him. I trust him,

954
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 5: I think, you know. Of course I'm going to tell

955
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 5: him when he's right. It's like you're going to get

956
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 5: in an accident, and when it happens, don't freak out.

957
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 2: Call us.

958
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 5: We'll take care of it. It's all good, you know.

959
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 5: That's the odds are something's gonna happen.

960
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we did. Uh god, well, who makes the

961
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: PT Cruiser? Chrysler? Hey, I guess. We did a Chrysler

962
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: show and it was one of my favorite One of

963
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: my favorite memories of us as a group was we

964
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: did this Chrysler show and our payment and it was

965
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: for employed. I don't know what it was for, but

966
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: our payment was two cars each. Yeah, not just for

967
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: a month. That literally gave us a PT Cruiser and

968
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,959
Speaker 1: then one of the other sports cars.

969
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 4: Yeah.

970
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: I thought that was the coolest moment. And did I

971
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: drive them? I drove the PT Cruiser for maybe two

972
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: months and that was it. Because we never lived in Orlando, Yeah,

973
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: we just never were there, so they just kind of

974
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: sat there forever. But I thought that was such a

975
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: baller thing. Yeah, I would think the same thing. Yeah,

976
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 1: I think I would have rather taken the cash.

977
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 2: But remember the collar. They were all purple, weren't they.

978
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: Both of gray? My pet cruiser is great, and then

979
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: whatever the other one was. My cousin had a purple

980
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: pet cruiser, Yeah, a PT cruiser telling that story. Wait

981
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: what is that from? Oh my god.

982
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 3: Paul McCartney was getting divorced from Heather Mills and she

983
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 3: had this publicist woman and she was like always on

984
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 3: all like the news channels, like talking about it, like

985
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 3: trying to I No. She was like, I mean she's

986
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 3: saying she has no money and but whatever, but she

987
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 3: drives a pet cruiser. I mean I saw driving down

988
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: the streets and a friend new PT cruiser and like

989
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 3: the host in America like it is like, okay, like

990
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 3: it's really not that.

991
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: Big of a deal. It's a pet cruiser. Like it

992
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything. You've made it. You made what I thought, Like.

993
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 3: I know, my cousin had one for like a year

994
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 3: and he just hated it so much that Baby Hurst

995
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 3: called the piece of ship cruiser.

996
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's a lot, you know, you can't like,

997
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 5: you know, in a PT cruiser.

998
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: But I have a turn on a dime though. You

999
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: need to look at hot wheel and I love hot

1000
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: wheels a kid whole muscle. We do have a question

1001
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: speaking of Black Con, which I love. Cons are huge

1002
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: now it's.

1003
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 2: The new It's like podcasts. Everyone has is mister Khan.

1004
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 2: He's every sack.

1005
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I still have not done one yet,

1006
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: you haven't. I know he's been trying, he's he's never

1007
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: done an. It would be fun because I love cons.

1008
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: I don't like the idea of having to take pictures

1009
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: for hours, like I get really, I don't it just

1010
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: I get really antsy. I could do it for a

1011
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 1: couple hours, be fine, But when he was like, yeah,

1012
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 1: you sait there for nine, I was like, no.

1013
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 2: I don't think I could do that.

1014
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: And he has a break in between, but I just

1015
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's it's hard to smile that long.

1016
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 2: It just yeah.

1017
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: So that's what kind of deterred me from ever doing

1018
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: something like that. But I think it'll be fun, like

1019
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: when you have the next block con. I think taking

1020
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: frosted tips to something like that, having fun Like that's.

1021
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: How I would love to do a con done.

1022
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, like bring the show, have fun to give you

1023
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: people you know, and then that will be my contribution

1024
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: to con and I get to enjoy it. We're actually

1025
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: gonna I didn't even tell you this, We're going to

1026
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: go to Comic Con this year, San Diego.

1027
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: Does he tell you things? Know, it doesn't have anything.

1028
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 2: It'll be like he's like, oh, by the way, you're

1029
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 2: going to the event.

1030
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: You know he was coming today until like five minutes

1031
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: before we left. Okay, yeah I did, but e going to.

1032
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 3: But oh yeah, I didn't tell you. So it's like

1033
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 3: something that would be a huge, like life changing thing.

1034
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I didn't tell you.

1035
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah.

1036
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm the I'm the planner in the family.

1037
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: How about what's your dynamic with your wife?

1038
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 5: Uh, it's a mix, It's a mix. She's phenomenal in

1039
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 5: the greatest mom ever. So like the way she balances

1040
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 5: and juggles their schedules is out of control.

1041
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1042
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 5: How do you think I when I came out here

1043
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 5: to do a TV show twenty twenty years ago? Now,

1044
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 5: she was my real estate broker. Oh no, the rest

1045
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 5: history married a year to the day we met. Wow,

1046
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 5: every day felt like a year because I was falling

1047
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 5: in love. But otherwise it happened pretty fast.

1048
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: What show would you come out here for?

1049
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 2: Boston?

1050
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: Public?

1051
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1052
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 1: I remember that.

1053
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, in public, I always said I've never come a

1054
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 5: back to LA without a gig.

1055
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure enough, I got a gig and I here.

1056
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: What is your relationship with La? You know again, it's

1057
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: kind of like you love it or hate it.

1058
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: I love it.

1059
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird.

1060
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 5: I mean sometimes I'm like, oh, it's weird for a

1061
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 5: Boston guy, East Coast guy. It always it feels like home,

1062
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:21,479
Speaker 5: you know, it just feels like home.

1063
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: Now.

1064
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 5: I had my moments years ago. We're like, I'm never

1065
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 5: coming out here. It's so big.

1066
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 2: I'm lonely.

1067
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 5: You know, the audition went wrong, no one likes but

1068
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 5: blah blah blah. But you know, the community out here,

1069
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 5: my friends out here, I think. I think there's so

1070
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 5: much too.

1071
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: You know.

1072
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 2: That's good for the soul out here, and and it

1073
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: just it fits.

1074
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: It can be. It's about the people you surround yourself with,

1075
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: what your ambitions are, because you can, I mean it's

1076
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: a melting pot of everything absolutely get into anything. Yeah,

1077
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: you've done tons of amazing acting, right, but what is

1078
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 1: the next step for you? Is there? Are you trying

1079
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: to get another show right now? Do you rather do movies?

1080
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: Like what fits in your schedule? Are you going to

1081
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: do Broadway again.

1082
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 2: I think I do have a.

1083
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 5: I originated a role in a show called The Wanderer,

1084
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 5: which is on the track to Broadway. But like there's

1085
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 5: eighteen thousand shows getting into Broadway. But we have great

1086
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 5: producers and things are building.

1087
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: So that's what you want, because that's how you get

1088
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: your Tony got to originated.

1089
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, it lives to God's zas No, yeah, but

1090
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 5: I mean yes in this state. As to your point,

1091
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 5: you know, in theater, you know there's certain things you'd

1092
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 5: love to get a chance to do. So originating a

1093
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 5: role is special, you know, it's checking that box.

1094
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: People don't understand how long it takes to show five.

1095
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 2: I've been in this for five years.

1096
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: There's no money in Broadway people, there's no It is

1097
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 1: a love.

1098
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,720
Speaker 2: That's true. Zero zero, yeah, zero.

1099
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 5: My buddy Mike Martella, who's the star of the show.

1100
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 5: It's about Dion and the Belmontster, and he plays Dion

1101
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 5: and and he got all the great reviews from the

1102
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 5: New York Times. We got everything we need to go

1103
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 5: into Broadway. And now it's just finding the right house

1104
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 5: and the right times, you know. But so there's that,

1105
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 5: you know, put a lot of time into doing these

1106
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 5: solo dates. I'm doing like well, So I started the

1107
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 5: year at Carnegie Hall. I did Carnegie Hall for my

1108
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 5: I just turned fifty, so I thought I'd do something

1109
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 5: special and it was amazing. So I kind of put

1110
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 5: myself on the hook and said, how about I do

1111
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 5: fifty shows fifty for fifty And of course a week

1112
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 5: later I was.

1113
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: Like, why did I say that?

1114
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 2: And then I said, no one cares, Joe. No one cares,

1115
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 2: first of all.

1116
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 5: And then so but I'm getting I'm getting to it.

1117
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 5: So you know I'm doing I'm going to a couple

1118
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 5: of weeks. I'm doing Dublin and Cologne, Germany, which is

1119
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 5: one of my favorite cities, and a couple of shows

1120
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 5: in London, and I'm doing about twenty in July and

1121
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 5: the States.

1122
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 2: So that's a it's a heavy lift.

1123
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is a heavy lift, and it's something that

1124
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 5: I have to do. It's one of those things the

1125
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 5: only way you can do it is if it's something

1126
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 5: you have to do, because if there's any wishy watching this, yeah.

1127
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 2: You're going to stay home. Put yourself through that.

1128
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the Solo Joe Summer Tour, how do we

1129
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: get tickets for that.

1130
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 5: Joey McIntyre dot com is the best way and all

1131
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 5: the dates are there and you know, thank god, it's

1132
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 5: it's going well and the fans keep chilling for me.

1133
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 2: You never know until you put them on sale.

1134
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 5: But uh, there's definitely some some ticks left in some cities,

1135
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 5: so check it.

1136
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: Out you prefer because with me, I had never never

1137
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: wanted to be solo, Like I just don't. I don't

1138
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: like the idea of me just being by myself on

1139
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: stage trying to entertain everyone. I liked being a part

1140
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: of the group. Yeah, that was what was fun for me.

1141
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: Do you have a preference of being in the group

1142
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: or solo?

1143
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 5: You know, there's such a beauty to being a part

1144
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 5: of the New Kids, you know what I mean. I

1145
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 5: love these guys, you know, I get the feet off them.

1146
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 5: I get to, you know, have another chance over and

1147
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 5: over again to you know, bounce things off them and

1148
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 5: learn from them and enjoy their company and on.

1149
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 2: And on and on.

1150
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 5: And I play a very you know, important role in

1151
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 5: that group and every show I give one hundred and

1152
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 5: ten percent. And I have my moments and I build

1153
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 5: those moments and try to keep them fresh. And it's wonderful,

1154
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 5: But having a stage to myself for an hour and

1155
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 5: a half to do exactly what I want to do

1156
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 5: is very thrilling, very important in the connection I make

1157
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 5: with the audience is a very unique experience.

1158
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 2: So it's it's important they both feed each other.

1159
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the fans a little bit, because you

1160
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: know the show is all about the fandoms there and

1161
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: everyone's crossing over.

1162
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, was there ever a part of.

1163
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: Your career and maybe right after like new Kids, you know,

1164
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: when y'all had split the first time, was ever a

1165
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: part where you were disappointed with the reaction of the

1166
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: fans because I know when we ended and I did

1167
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: a few like solo things, all that felt like all

1168
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 1: the Insynct fans just like left. I just it felt

1169
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: like crickets. And I'm like, where did all of y'all go? Like,

1170
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 1: why aren't I feel like zero support? Then I'm thinking, well,

1171
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 1: I mean they were the age where now they're having

1172
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: families that I like, they're not paying attention to their

1173
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: teen idols. Yeah, but I felt a little abandoned for

1174
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,280
Speaker 1: a bit. Now I see them like they're I feel

1175
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: the Insynct love and I feel well, especially with social media.

1176
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 2: Before you didn't really have that gate film that tame.

1177
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 5: As time as everythings everything, And so now your fans

1178
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 5: are the age of what our fans were in two

1179
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 5: thousand and eight.

1180
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 2: When we came back.

1181
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 3: Exactly, they were like, yes we need now they want.

1182
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 2: I won't get started. What you guys need to do?

1183
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: What do you think we literally, I mean, I'm an

1184
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: agree with to give us the rollout? How would you

1185
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 1: bring in sync back?

1186
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 5: Well, you probably should have already been back with or

1187
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 5: without Justin period.

1188
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 2: Clearly there's an audience, there's no black and white.

1189
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we all love all of you.

1190
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 5: Justin's amazing. And if he comes in for a couple

1191
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 5: of gigs here and they're fine. But the four of

1192
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 5: you are very talented, can all sing, can all step up?

1193
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 5: And I think it already could have been happening. But

1194
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 5: I understand you have a solo artist who's a massive superstar,

1195
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 5: and that's part of the equation. So I'm not gonna

1196
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 5: attempt to think I know how that works. But I

1197
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 5: know you fans where they are right now, and and

1198
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 5: so of course you know, and I and I we

1199
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 5: all hope and pray, and.

1200
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 2: I know I'm still holding got.

1201
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: Look, I've always hat like the fans deserve something, for sure.

1202
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: I just think we're just idiots, Like we really are

1203
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: just idiots. I agree, because it easily could have happened

1204
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:45,479
Speaker 1: over the years.

1205
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 5: But I see, though, is that what you don't have.

1206
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 5: The thing is, there's so many times that we're like.

1207
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 2: Freaking Donnie, you know what I mean, she's.

1208
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 5: Such a control freak, like he's gotta but he is

1209
00:56:59,400 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 5: a leader.

1210
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,959
Speaker 2: You guys don't have a leader, you know what I'm saying.

1211
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: And that's okay, very much. Just a democracy, that's a

1212
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: that And.

1213
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 2: And democracy is tough, as we know in this world,

1214
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

1215
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 5: So and and even though we have a lot of

1216
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 5: say and we're gonna bump heads and and and you know,

1217
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 5: I'm I'm not trying to say that, Donnie, it's it's all,

1218
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 5: it's not. But he's the part of having things work

1219
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 5: is giving that person permission to lead that, you know

1220
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.

1221
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 2: We have that.

1222
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 5: We have that, and we have Jordan Knight, who's an

1223
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 5: incredible lead singer but doesn't need to say much.

1224
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 2: You know.

1225
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 5: It's all those things that like connect and work, and

1226
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 5: it's lightning in a bottle. But I think, you know,

1227
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 5: I'm sure you guys are gonna work it out. Please

1228
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 5: the world needs, you know, for you really needs I know,

1229
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 5: but the world you'll be surprised. It sounds so corny,

1230
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 5: but like and and I can't believe I'm saying it

1231
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 5: because I'm such a cynic, and I should say it

1232
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 5: more because I've witnessed it. But like the world needs

1233
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 5: those kind of moments, you know. And and it's such

1234
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 5: a good will and it'll be an INSNC party for

1235
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 5: as long as you want it to be.

1236
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 2: But I get it, I get it. Life happens, you know.

1237
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: It's all about the timing, I think, And you know,

1238
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: when the opportunity presents itself, I think I think it

1239
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: could easily happen because we're all super close.

1240
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 2: It's it's just about when you guys are ready.

1241
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: Just it's not like, oh I don't talk to this part.

1242
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: It's just we all are. We've been remained so close forever. Yeah,

1243
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: but we're just dumb. Yeah, we're just dumb. We just

1244
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 1: don't know how to communicate. We're a little dumb. Mayor

1245
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: Ray Rare. But maybe one day let's get us some

1246
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: fan questions here because Christina again our girl Christina. She

1247
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: was at block Con last weekend. He said absolutely killed it.

1248
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: During the concert was a son a fun set list

1249
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: with old, new and deep cut songs. The question is,

1250
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: would you ever seriously consider recording Please Don't Go Girl

1251
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: in your adult Joe voice? We all love the original,

1252
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: but blockheads need an updated version, their updated live performances recordings,

1253
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: and there is a new Kids on the Block BSB

1254
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: mash up, but not a true proper full length, full

1255
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: song release. Since it's the fifteenth ANNIVERSI of Reunited, I

1256
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: know the fans would absolutely love this. Would you rerecord it?

1257
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 2: Let's go right like pull a Taylor Swift Records for

1258
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 2: a long time baby.

1259
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 5: Oh no, I've heard that before. There's sort of like

1260
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 5: one of my many projects is you know, back to

1261
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 5: Carnegie real quick. But we did a three hour concert.

1262
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 5: It was amazing and I had all these great guests,

1263
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 5: and I thought one of my projects will be cool

1264
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,959
Speaker 5: to record that set list, which one of them would

1265
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,439
Speaker 5: be Please Don't Go Girl. But I hear you, and

1266
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 5: thank you, thank you for asking me.

1267
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: Maybe Christmas present?

1268
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 2: Yes?

1269
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: Yes, okay? Was it weird? I mean because and justin

1270
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: When we started, he was fourteen, and his voice was,

1271
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: you know, just changing at that point. So when you

1272
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: hear I want you back turned on my heart as

1273
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: a higher voice. You you were thirteen when you first started.

1274
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 5: Thirteen fourteen. I thank god my voice didn't change until I.

1275
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 2: Was like fifteen.

1276
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you got. I recorded Please.

1277
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 5: Don't Go Girl when I was fourteen, and then it

1278
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 5: was bloody murder.

1279
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: So when their voice did change, what happened? Like, what

1280
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: was that transition?

1281
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 5: I had to stop singing Please don't Go Girl? And

1282
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 5: when I sang and it was like dropped down. I

1283
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 5: sing it lower than how I sing it now, which

1284
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 5: is not original, but it's had a good spot where

1285
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 5: you feel the fields.

1286
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 2: But back then it was like what's so no go?

1287
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 2: It was like, God, bless me.

1288
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 5: I look back and I go, yeah, I really do,

1289
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,919
Speaker 5: because like I was going so hard, we all were,

1290
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 5: but like my voice was changing and I was going

1291
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 5: through puberty. Everybody else was already through puberty. I was like,

1292
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 5: it was like, thank god, it wasn't worse.

1293
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: What was it like being a teen idol? You know

1294
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: in that era? Because I feel like that was the

1295
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: last amazing era to be a teen idol because it

1296
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 1: was a little more innocent.

1297
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, social media classic way of yeah, the Big Barber,

1298
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 5: the magazine.

1299
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it was cool. I mean

1300
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 2: it was uh, it was it was a whirlwind.

1301
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 5: I'm sure it felt the same way you know that

1302
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 5: that it felt for you guys.

1303
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 2: You know some some.

1304
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 5: People say, well, was it better without social media or

1305
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 5: is it better?

1306
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 2: Well without social media, like a story would last three

1307
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 2: or four weeks.

1308
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Speaker 5: Now something bad could happen, but five minutes later something

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Speaker 5: else is going to come along.

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Speaker 3: So it's like, but at least back then you could

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Speaker 3: get away with so much. No one saw, no one

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01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 3: was videos us everywhere you went.

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Speaker 1: But rumors would fly so easily back then, and it

1314
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: would destroy people's careers. Like I don't know if you

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01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: know the Carol Channing story.

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Speaker 2: We tell tell the story, good thing.

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01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: You know, it's like corn, why don't have corn? And

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01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: it render her career for years because of that one

1319
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: stupid little rumor she.

1320
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Speaker 2: Was gonna have clown.

1321
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: This is it's a total like Richard, Yeah.

1322
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 3: Apparently Carol Channon was in a bathroom and someone was

1323
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Speaker 3: sitting in the bathroom next to her and they just

1324
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 3: heard her like this, and then Karen, when did I

1325
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Speaker 3: have corn like looking at her pood?

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01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 2: But that story does went everywhere and now like, yeah

1327
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 2: we did.

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01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: She get in good jobs for years because of that

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01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: one stupid rumor. And I remember in our town it

1330
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: was a huge rumor about you guys of course, you know,

1331
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: being gay. Oh, Jordan Knight was the one that of

1332
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: course he was like, oh found out he's gay, and

1333
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: it's the worst thing you could ever But that's like

1334
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: with every feel like boy band.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Well that's one good thing that they don't

1336
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 2: call you gay.

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Speaker 1: That's how you know, you make something that we can

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01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 1: actually relate to. As a straight guy, you kind of

1339
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: know what it's like to be gay in public because

1340
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: people just like, oh, you're a oh you're you know,

1341
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: you're gay, and they treat you like you were. So

1342
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: you kind of got a lot of that brunt. I didn't.

1343
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if I got that brunt

1344
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 2: a bit.

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01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: I feel like it was bigger during your time that

1346
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: like like in the nineties.

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01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I can't imagine, though I have one small

1348
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 5: experience with that. And it's funny, you know, when you

1349
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 5: go through something you have even though I had empathy,

1350
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 5: and I feel like I'm.

1351
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 2: Just a simple citizen of the community for all people,

1352
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

1353
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 5: And and but I was doing cabaret and I was

1354
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 5: playing the MC, and the MC is by the end

1355
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 5: of the shows, he's in drag, yeah, you know, and

1356
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 5: I'm sharing in the you know, taking some selfie's getting

1357
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 5: ready and the whole thing. And I don't normally we're

1358
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 5: just talking about it. I don't normally read people's replies,

1359
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. If I read them, they're

1360
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 5: like direct messages. It's just all good because the other stuff,

1361
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 5: what's the point, you know, for the most part. And

1362
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 5: they just had my worst nightmare, you know, seeing me

1363
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 5: in makeup the worst nightmare. And it was heavy, and

1364
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 5: that show is so heavy anyways, and like just walking

1365
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 5: from the dressing room to the stage in drag, you know,

1366
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 5: that whole idea of like this is me, you know,

1367
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 5: even for that moment, it's so heavy, so heavy, Like

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01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 5: I'm so grateful for that moment though, like of course

1369
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 5: in the moment, you're like.

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Speaker 2: You just want to, you know what I mean, like

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01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 2: teach people, help whatever.

1372
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Speaker 5: But like but like that moment of like that empathy

1373
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 5: to like walk in those shoes and like even for

1374
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 5: a second experience when you when you when you realize,

1375
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 5: like you know, your thought was like no, I can't

1376
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 5: relate to that. I'm here for you, but I can't

1377
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 5: relate to that. But then when you put in a

1378
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 5: position where you're like, oh yeah, a moment I can

1379
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,479
Speaker 5: relate to it, It's like whoa, it's pretty heavy.

1380
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, it just it intrigues me the hate for

1381
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: drag queens and trans people right now, because I felt

1382
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 1: like the last ten years, there's so much acceptance, right

1383
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like there'st gender transitions, like and everyone's like,

1384
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: oh now we know what this is and we you know,

1385
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: an example, and it felt like everyone was loving and

1386
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 1: supporting the community. Then all of a sudden, it's just

1387
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: like there. I mean, it is the worst thing to

1388
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 1: be a drag queen or a trans person right now.

1389
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 1: And I just feel like there's such a big group

1390
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: of people that are trying to destroy their lives right

1391
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: It's horrible.

1392
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 2: What's interesting to me?

1393
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 5: And I don't know if this is the topic, I

1394
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 5: don't know how it feels heavier all of a sudden,

1395
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 5: but I'm I'm.

1396
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 2: I think I get how you know, I just did

1397
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 2: Drag the musical, you know.

1398
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 5: What I mean, and I saw how hard these people

1399
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 5: work and what they do on heels, you know what

1400
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 5: I mean, And it's phenomenal.

1401
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 2: And I get how a person.

1402
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 5: That that lives that way and and and walks that

1403
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 5: road is going to be behind everything.

1404
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 2: I think.

1405
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 5: I think the trans to me, Drag and trans are different.

1406
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 5: I see how those communities are there for each other,

1407
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 5: and you know, I see how it it for people

1408
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 5: it needs to be black and white. And I'm not

1409
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 5: defending anybody, but I think I think that's part of

1410
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 5: I don't know how to do.

1411
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is the.

1412
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 5: Podcast for it, first of all, but thank you for

1413
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 5: letting me share like I want to be as as

1414
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 5: someone who is I feel part of the community and

1415
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 5: and stands up for rights and of every walk of life.

1416
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,959
Speaker 5: You know, there's just I don't know if there maybe

1417
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 5: there is some gray area and that that feels like

1418
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 5: a dangerous, controversial thing, but I I think a start

1419
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 5: of it is to have that conversation. So thank you

1420
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 5: for at least listening. And maybe no one's going to

1421
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 5: hear this because you'll cut it out.

1422
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: But but.

1423
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 2: But I think it's important. I guess what I'm saying is,

1424
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 2: can we have a discussion about because because I would

1425
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 2: guess that there are people in this community that aren't

1426
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 2: sure where they stand in all of it, and because

1427
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 2: it's heavy stuff.

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01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 5: A person who is is trans it's heavy, right, There's

1429
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 5: a lot of decision making. There's a lot of decision

1430
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 5: making and and I can't imagine going through that. But

1431
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 5: I think part of the education hat of that is

1432
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 5: having a dialogue. We always talk about dialogue.

1433
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: Right, but no one's listening. And that's the thing.

1434
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 5: It's like I said, like I'd love to have that

1435
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 5: discussion where we're not going to get in trouble to.

1436
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,759
Speaker 1: Go Okay, yeah, let's ask questions.

1437
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,560
Speaker 5: Black and white. Yeah, it seems black and white. It

1438
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 5: seems black and white. And I don't know if it.

1439
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 1: Is anytime or political season is coming, it's always the

1440
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 1: l g B, t q I a community attacked, and

1441
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 1: it's always and here's a look over there. Always about

1442
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: the children. So same sex marriage children, it's gonna indoctrinate children,

1443
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna run, No one's gonna get pregnant. There will

1444
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 1: be the end of society. Right, well, we've had marriage

1445
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 1: for a long time and we're still the same. But again,

1446
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 1: now you know, trans and drag queen children children, it

1447
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 1: is it's turning children gay, it's their molesting children. It's

1448
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 1: all about the kids. So no one's listening once they think, oh,

1449
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 1: I got to protect the children from this rainbow.

1450
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 4: I think.

1451
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 2: And of course drag queens are the most sensitive.

1452
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 4: Peoplethet It's like, if it's not appropriate for kids, it's

1453
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 4: not appropriate, whether it's a drag, whether drag or with

1454
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 4: all the crap on on your phone, oh my gosh,

1455
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 4: on YouTube video game that like, like, let's pass some

1456
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 4: laws that might be there some films.

1457
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 1: Basically, drag queens are comedians, right, Are we banning every

1458
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 1: comedian out there that has curse words in their set

1459
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: or talk about sex in their set. I mean we're

1460
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 1: not doing that, or like every song.

1461
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 5: Like that.

1462
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 3: I mean every song is a sexual innuendo nowadays, and

1463
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 3: kids listen to it like nothing.

1464
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 2: It's you know, yeah, it's all thank you for't.

1465
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 1: We appreciate such because it is about just conversations and

1466
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 1: I don't know all the right answers or even the

1467
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 1: right questions. But we can't be afraid to be wrong

1468
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 1: and be afraid to ask that question. Yeah, because that's

1469
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 1: how we're going to learn. Yeah. And and people are

1470
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 1: too quick, and even in my community, so quick. If

1471
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 1: you say like just one little wrong thing, I know,

1472
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 1: they chomp on you and they try to cancel your

1473
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 1: own people and you're like just hold off, like, let's yeah,

1474
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 1: I might have said something wrong. Educate me on why

1475
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 1: I can't say that anymore, you know, talk about it,

1476
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,759
Speaker 1: talk about it. That everyone's listening to attack mode nowadays,

1477
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 1: it's like everyone's on edge. Everyone's on everyone's on edge,

1478
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 1: everyone's on edge. Uh, let's get to some fun fan

1479
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 1: questions instead. Uh. We kind of touched on this, but

1480
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 1: Schaeffer Laura has asked any Broadway plans in the future,

1481
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 1: and what role would you want to play beside your originated.

1482
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the role. Just to touch on

1483
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 2: it for a second, it is, it is. It does

1484
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 2: feel role of a lifetimey.

1485
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 4: Uh.

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01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 2: It's a pretty heavy character and it's a lot of fun.

1487
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 2: What did I There's there's a famous musical called Carousel

1488
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 2: and there's a there's a.

1489
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 5: Dad role there and he's a angry guy, and he's

1490
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:06,600
Speaker 5: a heavy roll and there's a song that he sings soliloquy,

1491
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 5: which is like a six and a half minute song

1492
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 5: and about having a you know, his wife is about

1493
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 5: to have a baby, and so I always think of that.

1494
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 2: You know, Chicago keeps running in New York for like

1495
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 2: three years. I know, and I have friends that are like,

1496
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 2: you should play Billy Flynn. It's a blast if you

1497
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 2: want to do it.

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01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: So it's kind of yeah, it's kind of a write

1499
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 1: of passage for a lot of actors. Yeah, that is

1500
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:33,719
Speaker 1: kind of the such a fun.

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01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 2: Role, yeah play Yeah, so maybe maybe that one.

1502
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 1: And I was going to do that role and then

1503
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 1: Hairspray offer me something different and I just I was

1504
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 1: just more attracted to Hairspray. I just just loved that

1505
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 1: show and it was right when the movie was coming out,

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01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, this is my path.

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01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 2: Yeah here.

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01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:50,879
Speaker 1: So I never got to do Chicago.

1509
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 1: So when was the moment that you realized I already

1511
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: asked that. Look, I'm already asking your fan questions out there,

1512
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 1: Victoria Fields O three. The moment you realized NKOTB was big? Yeah,

1513
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 1: that was a slow girl for me. It was doing

1514
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: the Rosie O'donald show.

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01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 5: Well, it's funny you say that because I said, Oprah

1516
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 5: asked me that question, that exact question, and I said,

1517
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 5: we found out we were going to be on Yeah.

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01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oprah didn't have us on for a very long time,

1519
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 1: so it was we were on Jay Leno all those

1520
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 1: But something about that show, and I'm like, if we're

1521
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 1: on that, people know who we are. Well, Rosie back

1522
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 1: in the day that was I guess she looked she did,

1523
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 1: but she didn't have his own forever.

1524
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 3: But then she had a whole like special with you.

1525
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 3: I remember I went to an amusement park.

1526
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,600
Speaker 1: I remember, well that's when I because I remember I

1527
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 1: had it was a stomach virus or something. I remember

1528
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 1: it put me in the hospital for like a couple

1529
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 1: of days. We're on tour, but we were at Universal

1530
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 1: Studios in Orlando or maybe Sea World in one of

1531
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 1: those places, and Rosie Yah had we were at the

1532
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 1: theme park and we had red roller coasters. But there's

1533
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:58,759
Speaker 1: a place in Orlando where they had zingers the oh Chicken,

1534
01:12:59,280 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 1: what does that call?

1535
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 3: Have?

1536
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 1: I forgotten the name of that restaurant. Anyway, there's these

1537
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 1: really spicy yeah, like fried chicken that and it's one

1538
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 1: called Mount Saint Helen's and it really burns. Oh, I

1539
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 1: like it, Alehouse, Alehouse, and so I wanted Rosie to

1540
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 1: try him. So we had, you know, as we're shooting

1541
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 1: the show, we're trying to we had to completely stop

1542
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 1: shooting because she almost died eating this damn thing.

1543
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 2: Before what's the Chicken show with the guys eating chicken

1544
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 2: in the interview with the hot hot Yeah, yeah, Justin

1545
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 2: did that.

1546
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,639
Speaker 1: I would fail. I would I would be good at it. Yeah.

1547
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 1: I think I could.

1548
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 2: Sweat so preusely. If I have anything spicy, I just

1549
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 2: love it.

1550
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm a grown up around New Orleans, Like it's just

1551
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 1: spice by spicy space ice spice. All right, before I

1552
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 1: let you go, Joe, what are you binging on TV?

1553
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 1: Right now?

1554
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 2: What do we need to be watching?

1555
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 1: What are you watching?

1556
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 2: Kind of pressed?

1557
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 4: Guys?

1558
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 2: Six is over and I was not pleased with the

1559
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 2: last four episodes.

1560
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 1: Watching the finale. Did you like it? Very end?

1561
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 7: Because I will tell you the end, but I just

1562
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 7: felt like, you know, the last like the last four

1563
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 7: episodes really like two of the last four, the first

1564
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 7: two of the last four.

1565
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 2: It was just like they were just sitting there saying

1566
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 2: the same lines.

1567
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:28,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we're gonna do it.

1568
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're good. Yeah yeah, we're gonna get it

1569
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:32,919
Speaker 2: the whole episode.

1570
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:33,639
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah.

1571
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 5: And I love them to dad, and like I was

1572
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 5: like so and I and I hate as a performer,

1573
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 5: like you know, Katriking at all because like, how dare you?

1574
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 2: But you know, it was, it was. It was tough

1575
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 2: because the season started.

1576
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 5: I was like, oh my god, this season it started, yeah,

1577
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 5: you know, on and on the like first you know,

1578
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:55,719
Speaker 5: three four, five episodes and then.

1579
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was I can't believe it wasn't spoiled for

1580
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 1: me a certain death just in case I was listening.

1581
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 1: It was not because usually, I mean on social media

1582
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 1: find out everything in the Procession is one of those

1583
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 1: shows where we have to start watching now because everyone's

1584
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 1: talking about it. Yeah, but it was not. It was

1585
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 1: not for me.

1586
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, get yeah the last episode, All.

1587
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 1: Right, what song do you have stuck in your head?

1588
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: Or give us an artist that you're loving right now

1589
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 1: that maybe we don't know about.

1590
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 2: Maybe we don't know, but I'm not that cool.

1591
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's funny, my you know, my kids are you know,

1592
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 5: like I said, Griffin's obsessed with John Mayer at the moment,

1593
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 5: which is a cool person to be obsessed with. And

1594
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:46,600
Speaker 5: my daughter who's twelve today, her Too Afternoon Tea is

1595
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 5: our traditions.

1596
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 1: With our daughter.

1597
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, it's a tradition. Yeah, it's really cool. She's

1598
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 2: crazy about Taylor Swift of course.

1599
01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 1: Of course, have you seen the toy yet?

1600
01:15:59,400 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 4: No?

1601
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 2: You know, we're trying to Yeah, we can to get it,

1602
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 2: get get her in and we'll see.

1603
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 1: It's so hard.

1604
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:10,640
Speaker 2: It's like these horror stories of people that can't get in.

1605
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:11,799
Speaker 2: Can you imagine?

1606
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 1: I know, I mean it's so crazy massive.

1607
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,640
Speaker 2: She could do it twice as many stadiums, I know.

1608
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 1: I mean, how much is she going to clear on

1609
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 1: this one? Uh?

1610
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 3: I read like she's gonna might add five hundred million

1611
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 3: to her network. It's gonna make it from that one sweatshirt. Yeah,

1612
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 3: from the one sweatshirt. Because literally her tour is making

1613
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 3: well over a billion dollars.

1614
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:38,560
Speaker 5: It's I mean, she makes great music and it's and

1615
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:41,679
Speaker 5: it's stunning how she's been able to keep her demo

1616
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 5: and still really genuinely identify with these young kids that

1617
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 5: are coming out.

1618
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 1: It's awesome she's doing it right, She's doing it right.

1619
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:53,719
Speaker 1: I we love Taylor Swift and she loves when celebrities

1620
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 1: come to the tour. So I'm sure you could easily.

1621
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 4: Ah.

1622
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1623
01:16:58,120 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 2: Maybe your mom's a fan.

1624
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 1: Angle Yeah, all right, Now what film do we need

1625
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 1: to be watching?

1626
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 2: Film?

1627
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 5: I just watched a startup documentary on the plane and

1628
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:15,639
Speaker 5: had to come home and rent it. It's called Uh

1629
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 5: Turn Every Page, and it's about this two guys, they're

1630
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 5: both almost ninety years old. One wrote this. This writer

1631
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 5: bought Robert Carrow c A R. O. In like the seventies.

1632
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 5: He wrote this book which was like seven hundred and

1633
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 5: fifty pages. It's called The Power Broker, and it's about

1634
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 5: this developer in New York and he started off with

1635
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 5: great intentions and then he became this monster who tore

1636
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 5: up all of New York and put highways.

1637
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 2: Through Harlem, you know what I mean.

1638
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, And so that was a big book. And then

1639
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 5: he decided to keep writing about power but through Lyndon

1640
01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 5: Johnson LBJ. So he wrote four books of LBJ over

1641
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 5: the last thirty years. It takes seven years to write him.

1642
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 5: So it's about him and his editor and they talk

1643
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 5: about how like everything means the most, as important as

1644
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 5: a semi colon, is as important as.

1645
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 2: The first chapter. So how these two guys work with

1646
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 2: each other.

1647
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 5: And it's really a wonderful and it's inspiring because when

1648
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 5: you look at people who take so long to do something,

1649
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 5: it's super inspiring. And then I'm very proud of myself

1650
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 5: that I went. I'm usually when my kids go to movies,

1651
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:36,560
Speaker 5: I'm like, you guys, go and I'll walk around for

1652
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 5: two hours because I'm all good. But I went and

1653
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 5: saw Dungeons and Dragons.

1654
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so good. It's on the plane. Yeah, I've

1655
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 1: been wanting to watch it, but I'm only seeing it

1656
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 1: on a plane. But I need it.

1657
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 2: You want to big that kind of a movie, You

1658
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 2: want it big, And then I.

1659
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 1: End up not watching the movie.

1660
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 2: It was really fun. It was really fun. I haven't

1661
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 2: seen Top Gun because I.

1662
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 1: Haven't seen it other small that they were avatar, Like,

1663
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 1: I don't watch these movies because I'm waiting to see

1664
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 1: it on a big screen, and then we don't.

1665
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 5: She just rent the theater and watch and my Blockbusters

1666
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 5: that we missed the please do that. Yes, chop Gun,

1667
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 5: but Dundeons and Dragon's was great. There's a couple of

1668
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 5: the acting was great.

1669
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 2: The writing was great. It was funny in this, in

1670
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 2: the in the special effects.

1671
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 1: We're great. So you know we're loving right now. The

1672
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 1: Bridgerton spin off Queen Charlotte. Uh it is, and I

1673
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 1: you know we watched Bridgerton, but you know it was

1674
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 1: it was like Queen Charlotte to me is the acting

1675
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:41,560
Speaker 1: is incredible. I mean just the design, everything is beautiful.

1676
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 1: So I highly recommend Shanda Rhymes. She knows what she's doing.

1677
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, by the way, before before we wrap up here,

1678
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 5: I I'm not really one for like, oh I have

1679
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 5: a good sign.

1680
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 2: I don't like my my my profile.

1681
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 5: So unfortunately the whole time I've been looking at you,

1682
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 5: we got the camera, my brother and I recently discovered that.

1683
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 2: Okay, now I get it. I do have a less

1684
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 2: favorite side, we'll call it because.

1685
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 1: I can't find this one, and I just have two

1686
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 1: bad sides. I just no idea.

1687
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 5: My buddy elbowed me like years ago playing basketball. So

1688
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 5: there's a slight little deviate acceptance. So on this side

1689
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 5: it looks I kind of look like a Picasso painting.

1690
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:26,560
Speaker 2: On this side, oh my god, who is that?

1691
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 1: On that camera. That's not why I see before me. Yeah,

1692
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 1: I think fans will disagree. I have a feeling, Joe.

1693
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 1: It's so great to have you show me. I was

1694
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 1: really excited for you to come on, and I really

1695
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 1: get to know you better. Who's left?

1696
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 2: Danny's left? I heard you were going to go through us.

1697
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 1: They want to left the last one, like you're going

1698
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 1: to be the first group we complete? I think really,

1699
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 1: because you know I'm spreading them all out. I want

1700
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 1: the fans to like want it right.

1701
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 2: But I had to get in here. I had to

1702
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 2: get in here.

1703
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 1: You know what we forgot to do at the end though,

1704
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 1: text the group and see who responds first.

1705
01:20:58,560 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 2: Okay, can we do that?

1706
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do that. But you have to say something

1707
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 1: just random, like what should I say? Guys? I just

1708
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: started in an elevator and I don't know what to do.

1709
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 2: I wonder you let's see.

1710
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 1: I think they're all kind of that they know now

1711
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 1: this podcast is going to be.

1712
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 2: An hour longer because they won't get back to me.

1713
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, do you have a name for your group?

1714
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 1: Chat?

1715
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 2: Just new Kids boring? Because the only ones with our

1716
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 2: manager and it's n K plus JP.

1717
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say, hey, guys, do you mind if I

1718
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:43,719
Speaker 5: use the Piano show for my solo tour?

1719
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 1: Say I can get you, I can get you dis

1720
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 1: kind of tickets. This is so stupid.

1721
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1722
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 5: We should have done it earlier. We'll be embarrassed and

1723
01:21:57,960 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 5: no one's going to get back.

1724
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 1: Well, we'll put in the show. Did it took twenty

1725
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 1: three hours and minutes I.

1726
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 5: Got back, Okay, so I'll get back and you could

1727
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 5: say we'll do it like a little yeah, you.

1728
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 2: Know, or I'll call in and I just wanted to

1729
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:15,880
Speaker 2: unless you want everything.

1730
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:17,680
Speaker 1: To be well, what do you want to tell your

1731
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 1: fans right now?

1732
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 2: Thank you and I'll see you out on the road.

1733
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 5: And uh yeah, thanks for showing up so I don't

1734
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 5: have to do this by myself in a room crying.

1735
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 2: That's always sniveling in the corner.

1736
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 1: Well you wouldn't like that just by yourself.

1737
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 2: Yeah sometimes.

1738
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well it's been great, get better, guys. That is

1739
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 1: all the show I have for you. Thank you so

1740
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 1: much for listening. You can always review, subscribe all that

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01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 1: kind of junk, and then check out our other podcasts.

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01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 1: They're scripted and fun. The Last Soviet and the Bedtime

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01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 1: Stories of the Ingle Side and we're both going Top

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01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 1: ten killing it. So yeah, we're excited about that. If

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01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 1: you like those scripted immersive plays, there's so much fun. Really.

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01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, hold on, I was waiting for text. What happened?

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01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 3: You have?

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01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:15,640
Speaker 1: We do these immersive plays now on radio podcast and

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01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 1: we take So there's one show I do called Bedtime

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01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 1: Stories and Ingleside Inn stars Jason Alexander and Missy Pyle

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01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:24,679
Speaker 1: and I mean just amazing comedians, and it's a period

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01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,759
Speaker 1: piece from nineteen seventy five, true story about this hotel

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01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 1: called the Ingleside Inn, and I've been wanting to make

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01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 1: it for fifteen twenty years a TV show of it,

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01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: and it's you know, Mark Burnett tried, like We've done

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01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 1: so many iterations of it, and then finally my friend

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01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 1: Jared who owns the audio up, it's like, let's just

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01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 1: make it into a podcast. And it turned out amazing

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01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 1: because it's just it really puts you back in the seventies.

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01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 1: It's all about original music and amazing performances, but it's

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01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 1: it's fun. It's a sound bath for your ears. And

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01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 1: the last soviets I think even better because that one

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01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 1: just it's a true story about this cosmon that got

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01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 1: stuck in space for three and thirteen days as communism fell.

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01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 1: It's pretty intense and it's a beautiful true story. Yeah,

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01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 1: all true stories I like. I like doing true things.

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01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:12,959
Speaker 1: Any kind of film that I create or a documentary,

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01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 1: it's just all based on something that happened amazing, because

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01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 1: I mean, those are the best stories, because you can't make.

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Speaker 5: That, not to make it about me. One Last Time

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01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 5: is all about you about No, I'm speaking of the

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Speaker 5: seventies and it's it's coming out in July on A

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01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 5: and E. But it's a it's a lifetime series. Takes

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01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 5: place in the seventies. Do you know the the VC

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01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:34,759
Speaker 5: Andrew novels.

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Speaker 2: Does anybody know those?

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01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's a lot of it's kind of like

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01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 5: a certain genre. Yeah, and demo, but they're these novels

1779
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 5: are nuts and gnarly and dark and weird and scary,

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01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 5: and they take place in the seventies. So I yeah,

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01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 5: I'll be playing and not so great person. You know

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01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 5: when that comes out it's in July. Yeah, it's like

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01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 5: four weeks. It's on an on an E.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll check that definitely, And that's I.

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01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 2: Don't know if it's a sound bath for the year.

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01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 1: Oh, we love a dark we do. We love it dark.

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01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 1: And lifetime story is yeah. My nanny now she's our

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01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 1: old assistant. When she stays at the house and we're

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01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 1: out of town. When we come back, it's always on,

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01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 1: always one movie.

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01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 2: And this is spicy. It's like you've never seen me before.

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01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 1: Ye reminds me of Harley Jonathan's husband. He always good.

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01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 1: It's a spicy It's all right, thank you so much

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01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 1: for here. Uh, be good to each other out there.

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01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 1: Don't drink a draft, take care of those animals, and

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01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 1: we'll see you next time. On Frosted Tips. Remember stay frosted. Hey,

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01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 1: thanks for listening. Follow us on Instagram at Frosted Tips

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01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 1: with Lance and Michael Turchin and at Lance Bass for

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01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 1: all your pop culture needs

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