WEBVTT - Hour 2: Brian Malinowski 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:17.000 This is a Jesse Kelly show. It is the Jesse 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:21.000 Kelly Show. Another hour of the Jesse Kelly Show on 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:24.880 a Friday, and ask Doctor Jesse Friday, and what a 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:29.240 Friday it's gonna be. Cannot wait for Memorial Day. That's 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:32.320 gonna be a heavy show, but a great show. It's 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:34.960 always heavy on the history. Probably gonna be heavy on 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:37.240 the tears for you. Maybe you don't know. It depends 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:39.080 on whether or not you're the sensitive type. But we 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:42.360 will be here Monday doing a Memorial Day show and 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:45.720 then I'm taking a vacation. But let's get to this 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:48.040 because I want to get to the ask Doctor Jesse questions. 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:49.800 We have so many that we have to get to 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:52.760 about the elites, what's their plan once you fill up 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:55.200 the country and collapse it, and all these other things, 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:59.279 the American South after the Civil War, playing music, all 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:04.080 kinds of stuff. Let's get to this. The atf well, 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:06.959 you know what, let's just expand it a little bit. 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:09.840 The federal law enforcement arms are all trash. 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:10.119 Ah. 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:12.600 I actually like the federal marshals a lot. I know 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:14.440 a lot of marshals who are really really cool. But 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:18.320 beyond the marshals, the federal law enforcement's garbage and they 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:21.840 should all be disbanded. They should be they've turned into 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:26.160 evil secret state police agencies, and people are not paying 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.800 enough attention to the fact that they are murdering people. 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:33.720 I've brought up that dude in Utah many, many, many times, 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:39.000 just because it's the most glaring example. Some wingnut dude 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:43.480 old fat gets around with a cane, put a bunch 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:46.720 of stupid things online about getting a sniper rifle ready 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:49.640 for Joe Biden to come to town. Okay, well that's 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:51.480 going to get you a visit from the Secret Service 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:54.400 and probably a prison sentence. But in this case, the 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:57.000 FBI kicked down his door and the dead and knight 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:58.880 and gunned him down, And they won't give anyone the 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:03.000 body camera footage wh just straight up showed up and 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:07.080 murdered the guy could have arrested that fatal tubago anywhere 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:11.280 without any incident or danger at all, waited until the 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:14.560 most dangerous possible moment in the middle of the night, 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:17.440 you're tired, you don't know what's going on, and straight 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:21.640 up gunned him down. And then there's the case of 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:26.839 Brian Malinowski. Have you heard this case? Well, I can't 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:28.600 believe I'm saying this. I actually want to give the 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:31.799 gopie some credit. They very clearly have heard the case. 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:36.000 The ATF is the one who did it. I'll allow 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.120 Jim Jordan to recount the thing. 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:40.560 For the law at the time says, if your principal 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:43.120 livelihood is not in selling firearms, you do not need 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:47.000 an FFL. Is that is that accurate? That's my understanding. 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:49.240 To the best you can a what what did he 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:50.520 What was the crime? 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:54.000 What did he do wrong? You'd have to ask ATF. 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:56.520 They decided that he'd committed maybe had committed a crime. 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:59.480 Even now the standard has changed, but the new rule 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:01.800 didn't take it until this past Monday. 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:02.240 Is that right? 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:05.760 That's greg But under the old standard it was pretty simple. 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:09.559 Is your principal livelihood selling firearms? 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:10.360 That's great? 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:14.320 And for Brian Melanowski it wasn't. Obviously not, it wasn't. 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:19.200 And yet at six oh two on March nineteenth, ten 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.920 cars pull up to his home, into the gentle lady 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:26.680 behind you's home, come up to the door in tactical 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:30.560 gear and put a tape across the doorbell camera so 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:32.120 no one can see what's going to go on. 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:37.160 I just want to once again say that we now 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:42.760 know that the Federal Law Enforcement Arms FBI does this famously. 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:45.640 We know this now, we've seen evidence of it courtesy 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:48.120 of a guy. He had an extra camera. He had 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.440 a ring camera and an extra camera. The FBI doesn't 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:55.480 know about. The Federal Law Enforcement Arms now routinely cover 0:03:55.600 --> 0:04:00.280 up the ring doorbell. Why don't you really it's the 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:05.600 body camera footage. Why do you cover up the ring doorbell? 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:07.800 Why are you doing these things? Well? Why would you 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:10.840 do that so no one can see what you're about 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:11.040 to do? 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:12.720 Now that's scary to me. 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:15.400 I mean, now, if the guy had done if he 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:18.920 had if he had for sure done something wrong in crime, Okay, 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:23.880 but they do that and then fifty seven seconds later, gunshots, 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:26.520 he erupped and Brian Malanowski is no longer with us, 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:29.480 A good man by your you knew the guy served 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:32.480 your community, highest paid city official in Little Rock. 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:34.880 What the heck do you think is going on here? 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:37.960 That's the question on the lips of every person in 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:40.920 Arkansas that's asked, that's contacted me, And that's a large 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:41.599 number of people. 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:45.200 And isn't it true that a week before these same 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:48.360 agents were there in the Walmart parking lot close by 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:52.000 the Malanowski home, going to go execute the search warrant, 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:55.200 and then decided not to because Brian Malanowski wasn't home. 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:58.000 Why was this so critical that he'd be home. I 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:00.080 don't know, mister Chairman, it was. 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:03.400 I need to step in here. We've gone over this before, 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:06.840 but I once again want to emphasize this. I am 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:08.880 not a cop. I pretended to be one of the 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:10.800 Marine Corps for about six months. They made me go 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:13.200 be a cop. So I'm not a cop, but I 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.560 know many I'm friends with many cops. In fact, all 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.200 over the country. Now I'm friends with many cops, and 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:22.200 I will just say that law enforcement it's full of 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:26.680 people who, just like you, want to go home alive 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:30.080 at the end of the day. Nobody in law enforcement 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:33.200 kisses their wife and kids goodbye and hopes that they 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:36.360 die that day. Because they want to go home at 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:40.599 the end of the day, and because generally they also 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:45.880 don't want to kill anybody that day. Law enforcement seeks 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:52.200 out the most peaceful, non violent ways to apprehend people. 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:56.640 If they have to apprehend people, if you have somebody 0:05:56.680 --> 0:06:00.080 who you believe will turn themselves in, or offers to 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:03.159 turn themselves in. Then you accept that because it's the 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:06.279 best for everybody. You're not in a hostile environment, there 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:09.440 aren't any tensions. Show up with your lawyer, let's get 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:13.200 your booked, check into jail. Then the suspect lives, the 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:18.000 cops live, everyone lives. I will also say this, and 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:21.000 I understand this may ruffle some feathers. I don't give 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:23.799 a crap how offended you are. It's one hundred percent true. 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:30.719 There are also cases, many, many, many cases where law 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:39.720 enforcement wants to permanently solve the problem, and they can 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:44.040 find out ways to not guarantee they have to solve 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:49.320 the problem in a permanent way, but they understand, Hey, 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.200 if we go in like this, if we try to 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:53.880 get in like this, the chances we're going to get 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:58.000 to solve this problem are really strong. And law enforcement 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:01.160 knows how to make that happen as well. They know 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:05.120 how to make an arrest, a peaceful arrest happen, and 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:08.320 they know how to make an arrest happen. Where you 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:12.480 are setting yourself up for things to get kinetic if 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:16.600 you have if you're in law enforcement and you want 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:22.320 things to be peaceful, the last place you ever want 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:27.080 to apprehend somebody is inside of their home. Why it's 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:30.440 their home. They know it, you don't. They know every 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:33.200 nick and cranny. They have their guns in there, they 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:37.680 know the blind spots, they know the everything. And the 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:40.480 other thing that makes it more dangerous is when you 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.480 show up in the dark. I don't know about you. 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:47.520 I'm a very very deep sleeper, and I will tell 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:51.000 you something. I don't care what they happen to be yelling. 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.800 I probably wouldn't even be able to hear it. If 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:57.800 my front door ever got battered down by somebody, I'm 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:00.440 not going to be calling out who's there. I'm not 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:04.520 grabbing for my phone. I will be coming down my hall, 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:08.560 weapon in hand. And if you round the corner and 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:14.400 you're not my wife or sons, you're going to die now. 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:16.000 I'll that them can take warrant. 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.040 They in fact, they could have wait until nobody was 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:19.560 home and come and if they wanted to kick the 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:20.960 door down, they could have come in noon. 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.480 And kicked the door down when Mayor and Brian were 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:24.240 both gone. 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:27.000 And searched and found whatever they were looking for, exactly 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.600 anything they wanted on mister Malanowski. If they wanted his 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.200 phone or anything. They could have served that warrant. They 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:33.599 could have got a warn for that. I'm sure the 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:35.080 judge would have given it to him, and they could 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:38.880 have done that at the airport at his principal livelihood 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:39.720 at the airport. 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:42.200 Correct correct to add insult to injury. 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:47.560 The way they treated his spouse, Missus Malanowski sitting behind you, 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:51.200 The way they treated her at a moment that maybe 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:54.280 the most high anxiety moment in any individual's life. Their 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:59.120 spouse has just been shot. That to me is like 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:01.720 unbelievable what she had to go through. 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:03.520 It makes me very angry. 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.920 Well, it should, it should make all of us angry. Dude, 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:08.800 I think it makes a Democrat that there's no there's 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:13.320 no explanation for that. That to me, and if you 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:16.360 and I keep coming back to, was this done for 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:19.720 some kind of intimidating We've seen this from other agencies, 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:21.439 frankly intimidation. 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:26.400 Well, I understand that he has to do the political thing, 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:29.000 and I like Jim Jordans, so I'm obviously not ripping 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:32.080 on him. But we all know why they did it. 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:37.960 Law enforcement, whether it's FBI, atf your local sheriff department, 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:42.480 the NYPD wherever you happen to live. Any cop with 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:48.080 any amount of experience understands the arresting situations that might 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:51.760 get a little bit spicy, and they understand the ones 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:56.520 that can be peaceful, and they also understand how to 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:58.960 try to nudge things a certain way if you want 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:03.200 it to go that way. This was, by all accounts, 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:09.440 a completely peaceful individual, and we're not even sure by 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:13.320 now if he even committed a crime at all, and 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:16.760 the ATF waited until he was home, kicked in his 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:21.280 door and gunned him down like a dog. The federal 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:24.839 government is murdering people. I'm not done with this. We 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:28.560 have a couple more things. Hang on. He doesn't care 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.000 if you believe him, but he's right. 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:33.160 Jesse Kelly. 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:39.000 It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Friday, and 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:41.920 asked doctor Jesse Friday, don't forget. You can email the 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:45.640 show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. We're covering some 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:49.160 of this ATF stuff, what they did to Brian Milanowski 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:52.560 and Little Rock, Arkansas. By all accounts, a peaceful man, 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:56.760 not a criminal. Now his wife is a widow because 0:10:56.800 --> 0:11:00.720 the ATF showed up at his door, so they showed 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:04.480 up at his door. Notice, how remember we just talked 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:09.360 about the uh, the ring doorbells. They keep covering those 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:14.680 cameras up. No, why if they're being lawful, why would 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:17.200 law enforcement cover those cameras up, especially with all the 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:22.080 You understand that cameras are in many ways law enforcement's 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.120 best friend. They can be their worst enemy. Of course, 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:26.600 you get these internet videos that are spliced up to 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.480 make the cop look bad. But when a cop arrests 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.480 someone all the time, everyone says the same thing. I 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.959 can't breathe, he hurt me, he broke my arm. Many 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:39.040 cops that I know, good friends of mine, love their 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.960 body cameras because every time they just get to pull 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:43.880 up the camera and say, what, that's a lie. Look 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:45.760 at what I did. I didn't do that. I didn't 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:50.880 say that he lied. Unless, of course, you're doing things 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:54.640 you don't want people to see. Why would you cover 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:59.720 up the ring doorbell? Representative Troy Nell's asked the ATF 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:02.920 to where are the body cameras? 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.880 Try to convince the American people you don't have the 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:09.440 doray me to put body cameras on your agents that 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:15.120 are conducting eleven thousand warrants. These are dangerous by You've 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:17.240 got eleven thousand of them out there, and you had 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:20.080 a budget last year at one point six seven two 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:24.400 billion dollars with a bee and you're telling me, I'm sorry, folks, 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.760 I can't provide this transparency to the American people. I 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:29.880 can't because I don't have the budget to do so. 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:33.600 The American people. There's a problem right now with law 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.720 enforcement out there. And I have the picture in the 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:38.920 image of every law enforcement officer that has been killed 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:40.680 in the past three and a half years, and there's 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:43.240 way too many. There's way too many on my wall. 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:45.680 We agree, and so we have body warned cameras. And 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:47.880 why do we do that because there is a lack 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:51.480 of trust between the police and the communities they serve. 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:54.680 So when you provide these cameras, there's no he said. 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:57.079 She said, it's all on record, and you didn't have 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.760 your body cameras on that day. I'm telling you it's 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:04.720 thanks to high Heaven. I highly highly recommend you cooperate 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:08.000 with this committee and you try to explain other than this, 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:10.360 I don't have the money to do so. When I'm 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:13.359 phasing it in, Boddy, you got to get your priorities 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.679 reshuffle your priorities and get your priorities in order. And 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.120 I highly recommend you get body cameras on every one 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:21.679 of those individuals that are searching these warrants because it 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:23.480 seems like there's a cover up here. 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:25.560 Well, of course there is a cover up here, and 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:27.680 that's why they don't have body cameras because the federal 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.360 government wants the freedom to continue to murder people at 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:33.640 their leisure. That's why they don't have cameras on. They 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.320 still won't release the body camera footage they had body 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:39.400 cameras on in Utah when they murdered that guy. They 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:41.520 won't release the footage. Now, why do you think that is? 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:44.720 Do you think the FBI showed up at that guy's 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.920 door and he was some deranged criminal trying to kill 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.080 the agents and they gunned him down. Do you think 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:52.880 if that camera, if that footage was on camera, do 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:54.760 you think they would have released the footage. Of course, 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:57.880 they would have released the footage. Why wouldn't you release 0:13:57.920 --> 0:13:59.880 the footage of you gunning down a fat, old man 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:05.840 in Utah because you murdered him. That's why Andy Biggs, 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:07.160 he had some questions. 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.079 Is it common for atf to turn off the power 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:11.520 to a location prior to executing a search warrant. 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:14.520 Is it common for us to do that? I do 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:16.079 not believe it is a common thing that. 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:18.560 I mean, you're the director. You either know it is 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:20.000 common or you don't know whether this. 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:23.560 Is I thought I answered the question. I'm sorry, is 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.160 it common? It's my understanding is it's not common. And 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:28.440 I want to be very careful to say I'm not 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:30.960 commenting on any case because I'm not sure until the 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:31.600 facts come in. 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:33.840 I asked you about a specific case, sir, I did not, 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:35.560 did I I asked you about policy. 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:37.360 You just said it's not common. 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:41.680 Next, does the ATF use R a frequency gamming technology 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:43.880 to prevent the Internet and cell phones from working during 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:45.640 the execution of a search warrant? 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.960 Again, I am not going to sit here, and I 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.720 guess I maybe should have said this before and comment 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:55.720 on the tactics that we use when we go into 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:59.480 dangerous places because it provides a blueprint for criminals. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:00.880 Let us get this straight. 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.720 Then you told us you won't answer anything specifically about 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:05.520 a case. Now you're saying you're not going to tell 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:07.520 us generically. 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:09.480 We could maybe we can contact your staff in private 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:12.400 setting and have a conversation instead of broadcasting to all 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:13.440 the criminals. 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:16.720 Uh, what the ATF used dynamic entry as there means 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:18.680 for entry during the execution of a search warrant. 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:23.480 Again, I don't think it's appropriate, and we can we 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.520 can communicate with you on these kinds of training issues. 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:30.480 I just don't want to give a public blueprint for 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:32.440 people tomorrow in the next day who are going to 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:35.240 be facing law enforcement through the door to know how 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.320 we're coming, what we're doing this law. 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:40.080 I want to pause on this for a second because 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:42.400 I want to come back. I just want to discuss 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:48.600 that line of questioning. Well, you understand that it doesn't 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:51.200 matter whether he thinks it's appropriate or not. He sure 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:56.120 seems to think it's in us versus them society. You're 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:59.840 an American citizen who pays for the ATF. You have 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:05.240 every right to understand exactly what kind of tactics they're using, 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:09.640 and if they're using murderous tactics. As a tax paying citizen, 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:13.160 you have every right to get that. They don't get 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:17.080 to run some secret police agency with secret tactics behind 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:19.800 your back. Well, we can't tell you that we may 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:21.320 not be able to murder the next guys. 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:24.320 People, as you pointed out, do this with decades of experience. 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:26.000 I don't armchair quarterback them either. 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:27.120 But here's the deal. 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:29.960 You're the director, and I would expect that you wouldn't 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:33.160 know what the policy is. And it looks to me 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.880 you've convinced me that maybe mister Nels was right. I'm 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:38.760 not sure that I thought he was right, but you 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:42.360 don't even you didn't want to tell us specifically about 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:45.560 the Melanowski case. I got that, but then when we 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:49.520 start asking you, I started asking you about policies, generic policies, 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:51.960 and all of a sudden, you don't want to answer those. 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:53.320 Mister. 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:58.120 When you coordinate with local law enforcement, you do coordinate 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.000 with local law enforcement prior to the execution of a search. 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:04.680 One in I'm gonna let it go because I want 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:08.040 to get to other things. But we have a federal 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:12.800 law enforcement problem, and man, somebody better step in and 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:15.640 do something about it. It's gonna be a problem, all right, 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:21.159 all right, let's talk about this. Let's talk about the 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:26.800 good cops, the ones who strap it on every single day, sheriffs, cops, 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:32.880 first responders, firefighters, and sometimes they don't come home. Sometimes, 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:35.520 Dad mom don't come home. And it's awful, and it 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:38.200 happens a lot now in this country, a lot, way 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:42.439 too often. Now we can't probably fix that, at least 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.119 not right away, but we can at least attempt to 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:48.880 take care of the ones they left behind. That's where 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:53.360 Tunnel to Towers steps in eleven dollars a month. That's 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:56.440 what Tunnel to Towers ask from you, from all of us, 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:58.119 and what they do with it. I want you to 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.199 go look up their charity rating. They don't line their 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:03.600 pockets with it. They're not on private jets. Your money 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:06.879 when you give to Tunnel to Towers goes to those families, 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:10.159 the families that are hurting. Their whole life has been destroyed. 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:12.840 Where do they go for help? Tunnel to Towers steps 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:17.359 in and helps donate eleven dollars a month at t 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:23.800 the number two T dot org t twot dot org. 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:27.000 All right, all right, let's get off politics for a 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:30.600 few and talk about some other things. Hang on, Jesse 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:38.800 Kelly Baccian, it is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Friday, 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:42.640 and ask doctor Jesse Friday. Don't forget if you miss 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:44.600 any part of the show, you can download the whole 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:48.960 thing on iHeart Spotify iTunes. Let us get back into 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:52.680 the ask doctor Jesse questions, enough of all that nonsense, Jesse, 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:56.639 or she says, Dear fellow introvert, I'm a thirty year 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:59.879 old dime who loves history and sports, but also a 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:04.560 huge introvert. I moved alone down South, and I've found 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:08.720 it hard to make actual friends. Most women are liberal 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:12.000 and I can't be myself around them. I know you say, 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:15.159 go to a rally, but being single in an introvert 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:19.359 makes that terrifying. What's your advice? Do you fake it 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:20.000 till you make it? 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:20.399 Okay? 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:28.119 So listen, fellow introvert. I make myself do things now, 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:32.560 as we've talked about before, because human connections are important, 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:36.399 and if I don't make myself get around groups of people, 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:40.399 then I simply never would. I enjoy my home. I 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:42.639 enjoy my wife, I enjoy my kids. I enjoy my 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:45.960 time to myself in my home. That's fun for me. 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:50.640 I don't go out wild parties, rooftop bars, Las Vegas. 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:53.359 This is not who I am. I know I'm an 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:55.920 old man and boring. It's just not what I do. 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:58.080 I like to go home. I like to read, watch 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:01.439 documentaries do nothing. That's what I like to do. I 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:05.560 make myself do these things. And I don't know that 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:08.520 I can necessarily help you find a dude, but I 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:12.879 will tell you I have found myself more than once 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:17.600 enjoying myself at least for a while when I go 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:22.240 do these things. So you are an introvert, obviously some dime. 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:24.720 We love sports and history is going to be the 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:28.719 bee's knees to a lot of dudes out there. Let 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:33.000 me just drop this one on you. What about a 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:38.240 gun class, ladies. I know a lot of you ladies 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:39.960 out there are looking for dudes. A lot of dudes 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:43.000 are looking for ladies. You want to find like minded people. Well, 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:46.320 the beauty of having so many former law enforcements, so 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:50.399 many veterans in our society today is if you want 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:55.840 firearms training of any kind, it is everywhere, and I 0:20:55.960 --> 0:21:00.520 mean everywhere now, and it runs the gamut to on 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:03.320 your skill level. If you maybe you think guns are 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:05.760 are kind of icky and scary and you just kind 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:08.200 of want to learn the basics, that they have classes 0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:11.640 for you, judgment free classes where you can sit down 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:14.320 and just learn the basics and learn safety and maybe 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:16.479 go squeeze off a few rounds at the range and 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:18.680 figure out that it's not gonna blow up in your hands. 0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:21.760 And they have that for you. Maybe you're I know, 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:23.439 we have a lot of these guys. Listen to the 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:27.960 show gals too. Maybe you know guns right, left, up, down, 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:30.080 you know them, you shoot them all the time. They 0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:33.480 have advanced classes for you shoot. They got seals, green berets, 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:35.960 all kinds of guys who put these things on. Now 0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:39.280 you'll be clearing rooms. But you know what these classes 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:41.200 are best for. I've found and I've been to a 0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:43.560 bunch of different kinds of them. You know what they're 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:49.680 best for, the friends you make and sharing a common interest. 0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:53.600 To this day, I have been in hunters safety classes. 0:21:53.720 --> 0:21:59.240 I've been in CCW classes of various kinds of SWAT classes, 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:04.000