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Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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Speaker 1: online at Advocateslaw dot com.

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Speaker 2: Kelsey is on the phone today for our first Date

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Speaker 2: follow up, and she's getting ghosted by Nate. So in

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Speaker 2: a few minutes we'll call him and see if he'll

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Speaker 2: tell us why he is ghosting her and maybe get

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Speaker 2: her a second date. But first, Kelsey, how long has

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Speaker 2: it been since you heard from Nate.

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Speaker 3: Hey, it's been about a week.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, not too long. No, So in that time, though,

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Speaker 1: how many times have you tried to hit him up?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I have texted twice.

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Speaker 5: Okay, that's not bad. No, it's not too bad. You

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Speaker 5: get no response, respond Yeah, okay. What did you say

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Speaker 5: to him in the last text you sent?

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Speaker 6: Well, the last text I sent, I mean this kind

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Speaker 6: of relates to like, you know, what happened on the date.

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Speaker 6: So it was out of the blue. But I complimented

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Speaker 6: he made me a breakfast sandwich, So I like told

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Speaker 6: him that I was thinking about how good it was.

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Speaker 5: That sounds amazing. Well that sounds like this does that

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Speaker 5: mean not great?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I did, Okay, tell us about it.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 6: So it was like a little bit different than a

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Speaker 6: lot of other dates I've been on. We met at

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Speaker 6: a bar when I was out with some friends of

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Speaker 6: mine celebrating, and we just like kind of were in

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Speaker 3: There was instant chemistry, and you know, I was I

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Speaker 3: was focusing on my friends that night. I wasn't really.

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Speaker 6: Looking for anything, but I just couldn't stop talking to

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Speaker 6: this guy. So after some drinks, we ended up going

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Speaker 6: back to his place and yeah, you know, I had

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Speaker 6: a breakfast.

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Speaker 2: Sandwich, so you know what happened.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I truly thought it was just going to be

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Speaker 6: a one night stand and like that was fine.

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Speaker 3: But then in the morning, when I got up to leave,

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Speaker 3: he grabbed my hand and he asked me to stay.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know, so, yeah, that's weird that you're

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Speaker 2: getting ghosted.

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Speaker 6: Then thank you, so I you know, he said, it

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Speaker 6: was like, you know, I know this is kind of backwards,

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Speaker 6: but could we have a breakfast date right now in

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Speaker 3: And he handed me right, he handed.

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Speaker 6: Me this like t shirt of his and told me

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Speaker 6: to freshen up and get ready and he would make breakfast.

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Speaker 3: And I mean it literally felt like I was in

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Speaker 3: a rom com.

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Speaker 1: Correct.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So I walked into the kitchen. He had like coffee

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Speaker 6: and juice out. He was making me that breakfast sandwich.

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Speaker 6: He wasn't wearing a shirt, he was just wearing shorts,

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Speaker 6: and it was literally, I know, it was like I

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Speaker 3: It was so romantic and I was just like melting.

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, I'd be blowing his phone up too, bro,

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Speaker 5: Where did you go?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 5: How long did you stay there?

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Speaker 3: Well, we spent the whole day together, like breakfast, went

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Speaker 6: And bed and we were watching movies and then it

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Speaker 6: turned into having there together.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it really felt like we known each other forever.

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Speaker 5: It's like a full twenty four hours a lie.

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Is there anything you can think of that would be

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Speaker 6: I really I really racking my brain because I feel crazy,

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Speaker 6: but everything seemed perfect. I truly can't figure it out.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the only thing that I could maybe think

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Speaker 6: my welcome, Like after breakfast, he didn't say that he

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Speaker 6: And the more I thought about it, I started to

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like if you wanted you to leave,

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Speaker 1: he could have been like, oh, I gotta go run

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Speaker 5: Got to tell people to leave. I uld just go.

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Speaker 5: I got stuff to do. It's fun. You can hang

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Speaker 5: One time they.

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Speaker 1: Said yeah, second, I'm ere, don't say that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Did he give you that option? Did he say

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: He just like has on offering other things we could do.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Kelsey is on the phone and she's getting ghosted

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Speaker 2: by Nate. So we're about to call him and see

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Speaker 2: if he'll tell us why he's ghostinger. But first, Kelsey,

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Speaker 2: just break down your date for us real quick, one

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Speaker 2: more time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: We spent the night together. One thing led to another,

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Speaker 3: and I was gonna.

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Speaker 6: Leave in the morning. Then he offered to make me breakfast.

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Speaker 6: It maybe this beautiful breakfast, and we ended up spending

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Speaker 6: like almost twenty four hours together and having this incredible day.

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Speaker 6: And now I've texted him twice and he has not

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Speaker 3: It has been a full week.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so weird. Yeah, yeah it is. Are you ready

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Speaker 5: for us to call him?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Okay, here we go. Hello, Hi, man, speak to Nate.

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Speaker 5: Please that this is in Nate. How are you? This

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Speaker 5: is the Jubil Show. It's a radio show. Hi Nate,

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Speaker 5: I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria and my name is Jubil.

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Speaker 5: How are you?

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Speaker 3: Hello? I'm okay. How are you guys?

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Speaker 5: Good? Have you ever listened to the show before?

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Speaker 4: I think I have heard you guys before.

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, all right, cool. Well guess what, Nate, somebody

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Speaker 2: emailed us about you.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: We do a segment on our show and it's called

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Speaker 2: the first Day follow Up. So that's wherever you go

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Speaker 2: on a date with somebody and then you ghost them,

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Speaker 2: that person can email us to give you a call

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Speaker 2: and ask why you're ghosting them. So somebody that you're

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Speaker 2: ghosting email us.

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Speaker 3: Got it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I think I have an idea who that might be.

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Speaker 5: Okay, who do you think it is?

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Speaker 3: Is it Kelsey? By chance?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 2: It is Kelsey. She told us all about your date.

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Speaker 2: It sounds awesome, breakfast and everything.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was kind of an awesome day date slash

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Speaker 4: breakfast date. Yeah, yeah, I kind of look.

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Speaker 3: Kelsey's awesome. She really is.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't taking anything. She's fine, beautiful, really smart, easy

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Speaker 4: to talk to. But the thing is that I've been

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Speaker 4: kind of going through a whole bunch of stuff lately.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, oh.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Okay, if you don't mind sharing, like what

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's okay.

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Speaker 4: So I lost my job recently and I'm having to

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Speaker 3: Okay, So yeah that's kind of going on right now,

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Speaker 3: and I feel like a giant loser.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I basically didn't think I was in a

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Speaker 4: that I'm in right now.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you didn't ghost her because you didn't like her.

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Speaker 2: You ghosted her because you like her.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess, uh, yeah, definitely, I like her a lot.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, it's just a weird conversation, Like I

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Speaker 4: don't know how to really broach that subject. Hey, nice

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Speaker 5: Fun, Like the way you said that was perfect.

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Speaker 1: I've been there honestly, but sometimes you have to give

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know that it's kind of uncomfortable, especially

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Speaker 1: guys had an amazing time and connection. I just feel like,

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Speaker 3: You're probably right.

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Speaker 4: Everything's just kind of happening all at once, so it's

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Speaker 3: It's a little heavy, that's all. It just feels heavy.

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Speaker 2: Well, the conversation could happen because she's actually on the

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Speaker 7: Okay, Hello, Hi, you're ghosting me because you've lost your job,

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Speaker 7: like you didn't think I could handle that.

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Speaker 4: I it's not that I don't think you can handle it.

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Speaker 4: It's more just I don't want to drag you into

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Speaker 3: I'm not some delicate flower, Nate. I'm the kind of

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Speaker 3: him get back on his seat. You should have told me.

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Speaker 3: That's really sweet of you to say that.

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Speaker 4: And I don't even know if I need outside help yet.

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Speaker 3: Kelsey.

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Speaker 4: I'm still kind of like figuring it all out.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, it just happened. Then I know I'm

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Speaker 4: It's not like that, but I yeah, I didn't think

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Speaker 3: You know, you like nice.

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Speaker 4: Things, you deserve nice things.

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Speaker 3: Fine, then you'll give me all of that when you're

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Speaker 4: I guess Okay, Well, yeah, I just don't want to

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Speaker 4: I just need a genuine reset right now. So as

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Speaker 3: Going on, yeah, I'll meet you where you are.

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Speaker 5: You're okay with this situation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's a human being. Life happens, for sure.

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Speaker 5: But do you think that puts pressure on a new

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Speaker 3: I guess so.

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Speaker 6: But I think also, if you know this went anywhere

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Speaker 6: and it is early, it would make us really strong

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Speaker 5: On good point.

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Speaker 3: Call me a hopeless romantic, but that's how I feel

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Speaker 5: Nate, you think your mom would like Kelsey?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely think so.

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Speaker 4: I mean, everything she's saying is incredibly sweet and understanding.

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Speaker 4: So I didn't know you would take it like that,

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Speaker 4: to be honest with you, that's incredibly sweet.

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Speaker 3: Well, I feel like you underestimated me a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I guess I did. I think I did well.

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Speaker 2: Nate, would you like to go on another date with Kelsey?

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Speaker 2: We'll pay for it, probably have to.

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Speaker 5: Everybody. You'll get back on your feet.

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Speaker 3: That was that was really funny.

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Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, I do want to go on a second date.

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Speaker 3: Let's just try to take it slow though.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to feel like I have to fix everything,

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Speaker 4: you know, right away.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations Kelsey you got another date, And Nate, congratulations to

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Speaker 2: you too.

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Speaker 3: Thank you guys. I'm excited to see you. Yeah, me too.

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Speaker 4: But just know that from now on, if we do stuff,

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Speaker 4: it has to be at your place because my mom

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Speaker 4: will get pretty mad.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, we could do that. Juble's first date fallow

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Speaker 3: up