WEBVTT - Hour 3 - Joe Theismann (07-15-20) 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.480 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.680 Sports Radio Final Hour. This Wednesday, we'll check in with 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:10.840 Jason Sudeikis, the actor comedian, former Saturday Night Live cast 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:16.440 member Joe Thiseman, former Redskins MVP Jonas as well. I 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:21.520 saw this tweet by Shams on the Athletic Multiple tips 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:25.959 have been placed into the NBA's anonymous hotline they report 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:30.240 protocol violations on campus. Sources tell kind of a narc 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:33.879 line there, And I don't know what happens to you 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:36.440 if you get in trouble there. Obviously you get you 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:39.880 have to go into quarantine. But the narc line there, 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:43.240 I guess they have multiple tips in there with guys 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:48.520 violating this. And then you have this interview Spencer Dinwiddie, 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:51.760 who I believe is already tested positive. He was giving 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:55.480 advice for NBA players in the bubble and he was 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:59.440 with Taylor Rooks on Bleacher Report and had the following advice. 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:04.440 Any words for anybody in the bubble, Yeah, to all 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:08.200 my fellow NBA players, don't call it the snit's hotline, 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:11.880 don't cross the line to get postmates, don't fly la 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:15.920 work out, and last but not least, the Brook and 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:17.399 that's a coming for you. That's the way it works. 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:22.520 L A work that is code for LA women. I 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:26.039 did not know that Marvin told me that because I 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:28.480 don't know how Marvin knew it. Marvin might have to 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:34.520 explain that to his wife. Sorry. Mark. Marvin came out 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:36.360 and he goes, you know what LA work is? So 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:39.479 I go no, He goes, uh, that's code for LA women. 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:46.240 So uh. This program brought to you by Mercedes AMG. 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:48.240 Be prepared for whatever comes your way. It's the old 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:50.360 new GT four door coup. Because life is a race. 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.760 Visit your local dealership test drive today. Have you missed 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:56.560 any of our interviews from Mercedes AMG man Cave, Go 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.080 to Dan Patrick dot com. You can watch and listen 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:04.680 from inside the merse samgmank Mercedesmgee driving performance. Some of 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.760 the headlines Chris Jones of the Chiefs got paid, Miles 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.000 Garrett of the Browns got paid. You know, when you 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:13.240 look back on Miles Garrett when he had the incident 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:16.640 with Mason Rudolph and now he's on the verge of 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.640 a five year, one hundred twenty five million dollar deal 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.919 and becoming one of the faces of the Cleveland Browns 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:27.359 able to overcome that incident. And we haven't gotten the 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:30.720 full story, and maybe we never will. But Miles Garrett 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:35.079 is going to get paid. James Harden has reported to Orlando, 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:40.960 and I believe in quarantine. Now, NFL camps, major League 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:44.320 Baseball starting, NBA starting all of this in two weeks. 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:47.520 In less than two weeks, we're going to have a 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:52.519 lot of baseball basketball to be talking about football, at least, 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:56.360 we hope. Optimistic eight seven seven three d P show 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:59.720 email ADDRESSDPA, Dan Patrick dot com, Jesse and Los Angeles 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:01.640 and just hey, Jess, what do you have for me? 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:04.880 Hey Dan, Dan, that's a great show today, Thank you, 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:08.079 Oh hey, work. I always wanted something new with you guys, 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:11.520 So thanks. But I wanted to ask you, guys if 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:13.600 if you know what Ethan the Stack Guy's knowledge is 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:19.280 as it pertains of sharks. Yeah, wow, yeah, oh Jess 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:23.000 that that's so inside the belt, but really really good. 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:27.680 Thank you. Because mclovin is his brand is you're the 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.400 shark guy. Well yeah, so you might not have noticed 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:32.840 when Ethan started setting all these really smart emails. I 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:36.400 started transitioning towards sharks as a way to keep my 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:40.080 value and something. My brand is evolving because of well, 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:42.680 Ethan is our stats guy. Yeah, I kind of used 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:44.440 to be the guy who's pretty good with stats, had 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:47.440 time to google him during the show. Yeah, and now 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:50.720 all of a sudden he's infringed on mclovin's territory and 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:54.760 mcloven is now moving on to being our shark expert. 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.920 A little bit, a little bit more detail here, I think, yes, 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:00.480 point I heard he took a sabbatical Harvard to be 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:05.560 a marine biologist for a year. But yeah, Ethan, Ethan 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.080 is a he's a star. And people say it looks 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:10.480 like Clive Owen too, get out of here, as he 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:12.680 ever seen a great white? I don't know. Do you 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:15.839 know I did last year seton It's funny you mentioned that. Yeah, 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.720 you're once again you are so brave mclovn. I think 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:21.480 we're underplaying that story. Yeah, that's what mclovin said. I said, 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:24.080 how are we under you didn't You weren't in the 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:27.200 water with a great white shark? You saw it. I 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:32.280 saw a great white in the ocean a hundred yards away, 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:35.880 but you were on the beach. You're still underplaying it. 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:38.560 I think we're underplaying this story. The fact that I've 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:41.280 seen a great way and the Dak Prescott situation is 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:45.200 the same. It looks like he's going to be, you know, 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:49.680 have that franchise tag and that's it and thirty one 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:52.160 point four million, And doesn't look like the Cowboys are 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.960 gonna be budging off. They want five years, Dak wants 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:58.200 four years. Joe Eisman will have some comments on that, 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:02.919 as well as the Washington Edskins changing their nickname. Jason Sudeikis. 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:05.120 We caught up with Jason a couple of days ago 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:08.880 and he's got a new show. It's called Tournament of Laughs. 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.760 It's hosted by Jason. It every Sundays at ten Eastern 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:15.280 on TBS. And I started the interview, I asked him, 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:18.120 does he get to choose the names of his characters 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:21.120 in a movie, like Principal Brown in Book Smart or 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:27.400 Kurt Buckman in Horrible Bosses. Kurt Buckman, No, although I did. 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:30.520 I have friend named Dave Buckman, so that I think 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:32.680 maybe I just sort of like honored that. And then 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.960 Principal Brown his full name is Jordan Brown, who is 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:40.200 a good friend of Olivia Eyes. So like there's always um, 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:44.279 you know, if they let you. Yeah, I'll always try. 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:46.599 I use a lot of old you know, grade school 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.520 friends and whatnot. That was a big point of pride 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:53.200 on my ass nowadays, was to you know, never have 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.719 my name referred to but playing a doctor and playing 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:58.200 like doctor Tim Grasser, who was you know, one of 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:00.200 my best friends in high school and just and it 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:02.160 just appears on a door or on a name plate, 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:06.039 and you know, it really lights lights my Facebook page 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:08.920 up for you know, a good three days. But fred 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:12.400 in a hall Pass? Did you not yet? That was 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:15.400 already there? That was That was you know, I didn't 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:19.880 have any you know, the deep and wide Hollywood juice 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:21.840 that I have now that when I'm just along for 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:25.240 the ride and I'm wondering how often you had guys 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.800 come up and say, hey, I tried the hall Pass thing, 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.440 like you get people in real life who who say 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.080 that they've tried to get the hall Pass or did 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:38.119 the hall Pass or inspired by hall Pass. Literally the 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:41.840 most it comes up, it will be like guys being like, hey, 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:44.360 oh man, I love Hall Pass. I watched it in 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:47.400 a hotel when I was you know, away from home, 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:52.320 you know, for a work trip. Like implying that their 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:54.680 their their wife or their partner would not let them 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:57.160 watch on the home Delevaid like, no, honey, we're not 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:00.120 going to watch Hall Pass, even though you know, having 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:02.000 you know, watch the movie a couple of times, like, 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:04.240 you know, we we honor the female side of the 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:08.200 Hall Pass as well. But but yeah, definitely, I've never 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:11.040 heard anybody actually take take it up on it. I've 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:14.200 heard the term bandied around like hey, you know, like 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:17.440 you know, so and so is my Hall Pass. I'm like, oh, okay, 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:21.400 well that's great, you know, just sort of like whoever 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.680 that might be, you know, uh, you know, to be. 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:26.720 But does this come up with your wife where you know, 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:30.640 you know, she'll eventually say, do guys really think that 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:34.200 way or talk about that stuff? It's all make believe, tough. 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:38.080 That's that's the beauty of having someone who's also in 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.000 the business. When you're an actor, it's such a weird, 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:42.320 you know thing you have to pretend to fall in 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:44.280 love with people and you know, all that kind of stuff, 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:46.320 and so she knows, you know, it's all it's all 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:50.120 make believes, it's all wish fulfilment. Uh. The The show 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:52.720 is Tournament of Laughs and it airs Sundays at ten 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:56.480 Eastern on TBS. How much of a stand up comedian 0:07:57.120 --> 0:08:00.320 are you or did you want to be? I never 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:04.240 did it. I've done stand up maybe twice, um, you know, 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:07.480 no three times. The first first couple of times I 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:11.720 auditioned for SML was in a stand up venue before 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:13.600 they have you do the screen test, which happens on 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:15.360 what we call a home base. That's like where the 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:17.960 host as the monologue. And then the one other time 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:21.280 I did it was like a corporate gig, hired by 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:25.480 a business back home in Kansas City, and I did 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:27.600 it where they were like, hey, you know, do thirty 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:30.200 minutes you're you're opening for the Little River Band. This 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:34.200 is true and and and I thought, oh, I'll just 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:35.840 you know, I'll tell like, you know, three or four 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:38.480 stories from my early SML days and then maybe take 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:40.720 questions and you know, kind of go to the Carol 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:42.640 Burnett show We're oute and be like, oh maybe I 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:45.800 can you know. And it was so scary. It's so scary. 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:49.520 I prefer to have you know, someone on you know, 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:51.679 in the foxhole with me of when a sketch is 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:54.560 dying or you know, an improvised scene is dying, and 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.040 you know I'm a team sport guy, and so like, 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:00.679 stand up, you know, all respect because those guys and 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:03.560 gals that do it on a daily, you know, nightly basis. 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:05.760 But for me, it's too scary. I want I want 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:07.480 someone in the ship with me when we're going down 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:09.200 to look at each other and be like, oh, here 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.800 we go. This is not flying. Because that's time I 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.280 did it. I immediately called a buddy who worked for 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.720 that company and text them afterwards, going to it. I 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:19.760 just did. I just eat dookie and everybody for for 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:21.920 a large, you know, chunk of change from a local 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.480 you know, local boy does good and then clearly not 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:29.840 that good. It was it was, it was. It was intimidating, 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.280 to say the least, and just that sort of having 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:34.320 no one else to blame it on. Besides you know 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:37.520 this yourself and your apathy or your work ethic is 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:39.600 too much for me to handle. Now I can't do it. 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:42.439 But here you are hosting this and explain the premise 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:45.840 of a tournament of laughs, Well, I basically it's just, 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:47.920 you know, it was you know, pitched a while back 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.800 by the producers as a way to uh, you know, 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.120 make up for the March madness tournament for for you know, 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:57.640 UM and as being um you know, canceled this year. 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:01.440 And yes, basically stand ups people who primarily you know 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:04.679 from stand up with some you know, the different folks 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.160 to like Michael Rappaport and Try and Plainsil Comic Dog, 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:10.439 you know, having fun making home videos and then yeah, 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:12.840 letting the letting the audience at home, you know, decide 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:15.800 who who moves on UM and then I'm basically you know, 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:17.600 doing year old you know, like kind of like the 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:19.840 host of Sports Center, you know, just doing a little 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:23.120 commentary before and afterwards and just kind of explaining when 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:26.120 you know, a number eight seeds has upset a number 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.920 two seed or what have you. Uh, And yeah, it's 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:32.520 it's it's you know today. We film it based on 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:37.200 tonight's or last night's you know results. So it's about 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:41.360 as close to the FNL turnaround that we used to have, uh, 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.360 which is which is fun because I'll do like you know, 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:46.760 a table read here in an hour or so and 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:48.959 then a while you know, it's a free tape anyway, anyway, 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:52.560 but yeah, the turnarounds, the turnounds pretty pretty exciting too, 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:54.480 because it's just like you know, go go go. We 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:56.240 gotta we gotta film this so they can edit it 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:58.480 and then have it ready for next week. And and 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:02.120 uh yeah, just one thing or another. He's Jason Sadeka's 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:05.160 The show is Tournament of Laughs and airs Sundays at 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:09.280 ten eastern on TBS. When you were in college at 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:11.840 Fort Scott Community College, did we ever show any of 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:16.000 your highlights on Sports Center? I don't think so. Okay, 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:18.679 there it was there, Maybe on ESPN four it might 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:21.679 have been further down, like in between, you know, the 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:23.960 footage of a father and son playing catch out back, 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:27.120 you know, like it would be it was. What was 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:30.640 the highlight? I had many? What was the highlight of 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:36.040 your college basketball career? That's a good question. Probably probably 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:39.360 when we played against Ruben Patterson at Independence Community College 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:41.319 and he had like fifty points on us and I 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:43.920 would say forty of the more dunks, Like that was 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:48.160 the highlight. He went to Cincinnati after that, didn't he? Yeah, 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:50.280 I mean, I mean to play basketball, how much you 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:52.440 went to the class? I mean, you know, Bobby Huggins was, 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:55.560 you know, coach, he coached with a different mentality than 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.719 you know, than than maybe it was the nineties, you know, 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:02.640 it was a different, and I was also wondering about 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:07.760 Ted Lasso. Yeah, now you you did those promos for 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:12.760 the Premier League with NBC and then all of a sudden, 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:15.160 are we going to do a series on Ted Lasso? 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:20.560 Is this like uh Brockmeyer? Uh, Jim Brockmeyer. Right, No, 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:23.280 that's which is one of my father's favorite shows. When 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:24.679 he when he heard we were doing the show, you 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:26.240 and I told him the premise, he was like, hey, 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:28.880 sound like Brockmeyer, which, you know, Uh, if I can 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:30.720 make my dad happy that way, than all for it. 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:33.440 But but yeah, that I mean, yeah, just seven seven 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.600 short years later, now you come into an Apple an 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.120 Apple Plus channel near you. But yeah, the trailer drops 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:42.880 tomorrow actually uh uh and yeah, we filmed the first season. 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:45.959 It comes out August fourteenth on Apple Plus and it's 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.120 the same premise as the first commercial. I'm gonna I'm 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:51.439 a small time college football coach who gets hired to 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:54.840 coach a professional, you know, Premier League team, a fictional 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:58.760 one AFC Richmond. But but yeah, we're we're with ten episodes. 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.840 All that all starts in about a month. Is the 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:06.680 Mustache reel? Oh yeah, very much. So. It wasn't in 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.480 the it wasn't in the second commercial. The second commercial, 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:11.720 we we you know, I didn't have the time to 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:15.360 grow it, but we had some of the geniuses behind 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:17.160 the scenes that s and I will help help me 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.199 do that. But yeah, this for the TV show. Yeah, 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.320 all real, all real, and the accidents real too. If 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:25.559 I've had enough Jack danions. But do you do you 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:28.960 know soccer or is that part of the fun of 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.959 this that I think you're a football coach? Going, are 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:35.720 you a real football coach like our football? Then you 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:39.280 go over there? Okay exactly. Yeah, like though the whole 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.880 time of the yeah, I was a I'm I'm a 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:45.600 football coach from Wichita State, which doesn't have a football team, 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.560 so you know. And then yeah, I had a viral 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:51.120 video kind of like you know that great video of 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:54.160 Roy Williams, you know, walking into the locker room after 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:57.200 a tart heels victory in dancing and everything for his players, 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:00.079 and that video catches the eye of the owner of 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:04.120 a professional soccer team over there in in the UK, 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:06.480 and so they hire me, you know, just to sort 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.800 of shake things up, um, because they're at the point 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.680 of possibly being relegated and all that, and so yeah, 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.440 I I But to answer your question, I've learned. I 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:18.960 learned more and more with every with every night that 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:22.800 I uh, you know, played FIFA, you know on the Xbox. 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:24.880 I learned a little bit more about the beautiful game. 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:27.280 But but and all, honestly, no, I didn't. I don't 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:30.480 know much. And a lot of those commercials play the 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.680 guy who plays my assistant coach, Brendan the Hunt who's 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:35.960 also plays my assistant coach on the show in one 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.920 of the co writers co creators, that's how we described 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.840 He describes you know, football or soccer to me is 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:45.880 by using metaphor, whether it be from you know, nineties 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:49.680 uh NBA, eighties, hip hop, Broadway musicals, like he can 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.840 break it down for me if if, if, if, I 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:55.760 am you know, paralleling for something I already know. And 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:57.680 that's sort of part of the fun of you know, 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.000 at least for the drive for the comedy of the show. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:01.920 And then then the rest is all just you know, 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.800 the high stakes. Are you too old now? I think 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:07.840 you're turning with forty five? So are you too old 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:10.920 to play video games? At home? Will your wife allow 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.720 you to play video games? Oh? Yeah, yeah, no, we 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:15.680 got a little six year old boy who we play. 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:19.080 We played through you know, Lego Star Wars. I mean 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:21.840 there's a deep, deep concern in our household about him 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:25.240 becoming addicted. But I, but I we have we have 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:27.600 a group of guys from the from the show that 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.720 do play FIFA, like they have a thing called pro clubs, 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:35.000 you know that we play almost you know, almost nightly, 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:36.680 you know, like a golf course, like hey, you know, 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.440 we have a text chain going, Hey, you know, someone 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:40.360 sends out the bat signal that we hop on there 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.400 for you know, a game. A game takes seventeen minutes. 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:45.640 We have that down because all of us have partners 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:49.000 and you know, other responsibilities. So you can only sit 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:50.600 in a room with a control in your hand for 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.800 so long. And that sounds like a series in itself. Jason, 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:57.440 I mean with this, you know, with this Twitch platform, 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:03.840 anything's possible, you know, you know, quarantine and and the internet. 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:07.080 Anything to the show. Paul is Will Farrell on the line. 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:11.760 Not this time, Oh he's not. Okay, Yeah, I'm not 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:14.240 gonna take it personal if you don't were you gonna 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:18.120 were you upset in the slightest when Will Farrell interrupted 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:24.480 their phone call? No, okay, no, um, you know, honestly, 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:28.720 I feel like it's, um, you know, he's he's got 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:32.160 to do it. There's demons there that you know. I 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:33.720 bet there's part of him that was upset that he 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:35.880 did it, you know, I bet if we really got 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.480 into it, I think there's part of him that, you know, 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:41.360 probably felt, you know, like I let I let people down, 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:44.040 like it's too needy, too thirsty, as the kids say, 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:47.120 you know, um no, it didn't didn't bother me at all. 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:50.720 Oh god, we laughed so hard. It was four years ago, 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.600 but you know that that it's those moments that remind 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:58.360 you of who who, how funny people are. Your line 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:01.640 was so quick and so sharp, is like, you know, 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:03.880 you could have why didn't why need an email? You 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:06.439 could have emailed And it was just so in the moment, 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:09.439 and it was such a throwaway line. But I still 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:13.119 remember it because you're right, and Will of course played 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:16.879 it off, and I think he was called He acted 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.800 like you you weren't on the phone, and then he 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:21.800 he just had to call in. I think we were 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:23.919 planning on a trip to Dublin and he wanted to 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:28.360 go to the Guinness Brewery. It was just so random 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:31.600 and he's like Dan, Dan, Hey, I'm doing an interview 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:35.600 with Jason. Okay, Hey, I really want to go to 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:37.959 Dublin with you guys. And then that's why I think 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:41.280 he said, couldn't you have emailed? You know? Yeah, good stuff? 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:43.240 You know, maybe maybe he was in the car, maybe 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:45.760 he was doing the safe thing or knows, but but yeah, no, 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:50.440 I mean, Will Tom Hanks, Oprah Winfrey, Beyonce. There's certain 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:52.760 people that they interrupt you, you don't mind. I mean 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:54.639 maybe after it, maybe if it becomes a visual, if 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:56.240 it's like you know again, if he would have done 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:58.520 it today, and then that'd be something we'd have to 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:04.080 have offline conversations about. You know. Well, good luck with 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:07.240 all the projects, certainly with what's going on with Tournament 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.600 of Laughs. It's great talk to you. Thanks again. We 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:12.840 appreciate you talk to him four years all right, Thank you, Jason. 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:19.160 That's Jason Sadeka's Tournament of Laughs and it's Sunday's at 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:22.120 ten eastern on TVs. Joe Thiseman is checked in. We'll 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.879 get to Joe coming up and talk about the redskin situation, 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:29.280 maybe get his thoughts on Dak Prescott as well. Twenty 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:32.080 after the hour. This is the Dan Patrick Show. Thanks 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:34.520 for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:37.440 to catch us live every weekday morning nine to noon 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:40.560 Eastern or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.200 Find your local station for The Dan Patrick Show at 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:46.200 Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:50.240 day on the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R. 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:54.760 Still haven't heard any other information than what I imparted 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:57.199 to you when I started the show about some of 0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:01.040 these cryptic messages tweets that were put out by NFL 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:03.760 reporters that had to do with the Washington Redskins. That 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:06.800 it feels like there's a story that's coming out about 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:10.720 toxic culture there behind the scenes. Nobody has confirmed anything, 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:13.440 and I said, if we got any information, I tried 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:15.880 to pass that on. And I don't know if it's 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:19.040 just a coincidence that it coincides with the name change there, 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:25.120 with Washington trademark issues there. You've got some minority owners 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:27.480 in the Redskins who may want to sell, so there's 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:30.000 there's a whole lot going on. It's sort of at 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:33.320 the epicenter of the NFL. Joe Thiseman from NFL quarterback 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:38.240 for the Redskins, a Super Bowl champion and NFL MVP 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:41.119 joining us on the show. Good Morning, Joe. Where do 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:45.840 we stand with this franchise right now? I think based 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:49.119 upon what you reported, Dan and talked about them, You know, 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:51.399 I don't really know. I have no more information than 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:53.959 you have regarding what might be coming out. We know 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:57.000 that at this point, obviously there's going to be a 0:19:57.080 --> 0:20:00.879 name change. After eighty seven years, there will no longer 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:04.639 be the Washington Redskins and there'll be some other Washington 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:08.680 name attached and logo attached to the franchise. Interestingly enough, 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:12.439 in nineteen seventy two, the logo itself was designed by 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:18.480 a Native American, modeled after basically the Buffalo Nickel. And see, 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:21.840 before I ever really got into this conversation about the name, 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:24.200 and this has been going on for decades. This isn't 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:26.679 all of a sudden, come overnight. You know that I 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:29.360 wanted to talk to Native Americans and get their opinion 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:32.560 on what they thought about the name the Washington Redskins, 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:35.000 and I'd say eighty five percent of those that I 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:37.560 talked to were very positive about it. They were proud 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:40.040 of it, they were proud of the heritage, they were 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:43.159 glad that the team represented the Native Americans of this country. 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:45.320 And then there's a percentage that doesn't like it, and 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:49.840 that exists today. But for whatever reason and economically, I'm 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:51.840 sure as part of it, there's going to be a 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:54.320 change and we move forward with it. But you know, 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:56.800 the other thing too, is interesting, Dan is what I 0:20:56.880 --> 0:21:00.520 thought about, is what's going on in society today? Is 0:21:01.119 --> 0:21:04.399 July third, the Redskins made an announcement and said, you know, 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:06.160 we're going to address this issue. We're going to look 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:08.000 at it, and then all of a sudden, eight days later, 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:11.520 at change is coming. I guess I asked myself this question. 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:14.480 We've talked about activism in this country, and we've talked 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:18.480 about things that should change, but yet they don't. I 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:22.680 if the Washington Football Organization can do something in eight days, 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:26.800 why can't other branches of life get something done in 0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:29.720 a hurry? What are we waiting for? I guess that's 0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:32.239 my question. Yeah, But the Redskins, we did a long 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:34.680 time on this show. I feel like, you know, I 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:38.240 think if we hadn't been where we are socially and change, 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:40.680 you know, I mean, it's but it's it's a change 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:44.480 that basically has come and those of us that played 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:47.000 under the moniker of the Washington Redskins down, I mean, 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:50.320 we won championships there. There's there's a great legacy in 0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:53.080 history that we're a part of and very proud of. 0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:55.399 And I'm excited for this young group of kids, and 0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:58.200 it's a very young football team. I'm excited for them 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:01.439 to sort of establish their own numbers going forward. And 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:04.000 this is one question I've yet to find an answer to. 0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:06.840 Maybe your guys and you can help. Will the records 0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:11.200 of the Washington Redskins as of what they were carry 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:14.199 forward to the new Washington franchise? I mean, did the 0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:18.280 Houston Oiler records carry on to the Tennessee Titans or 0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:21.680 was it just a whole new beginning when it came 0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:23.159 to those players that are going to be a part 0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:25.440 of the franchise. Well, it's just a name change, it's 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:29.040 not a location change. Because Houston changed and went to Tennessee, 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:35.000 the Baltimore Colts went to Indianapolis. Yeah, so I think 0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:37.159 that there's a little bit of a separation there. But 0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:39.879 I'm going to guess if the Colts numbers are the 0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:43.320 same or under the same umbrella in Baltimore as they 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:47.200 are in Indianapolis. How well do you know Daniel Snyder 0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:52.359 and can you could you offered suggestions on how to 0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:55.919 make this franchise better. Well, first of all, Dan has 0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:57.919 been a fan. I've known Dan for a number of 0:22:58.000 --> 0:23:03.720 years and we're friends and and good friends. The thing 0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:07.800 is is, you know he's a fan. He was always 0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:10.199 a fan first. I mean when he was a little kid. 0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:12.840 This was a dream of his to own the Washington Redskins. 0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:17.119 That dream came to fruition roughly twenty years ago and 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:19.840 it's been a struggle ever since trying to find the 0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:23.359 right combination. And there's other franches that franchises that have 0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:26.960 gone through this same situation where you have a degree 0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:28.920 of success and and all of a sudden you try 0:23:28.920 --> 0:23:32.080 and look for that magic formula again. And for one 0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:34.480 reason or another, I can say the last three years 0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:36.600 this team has been hit with the injury bug more 0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:38.480 than any team in the National Football League. We've had 0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:40.760 more guys on i R in the last three years 0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:44.040 than most teams have in ten. So the lack of 0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:48.080 players and it's a it's consistency and it's a player's game. 0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:52.040 And if you don't have the players, particularly the quarterback position. 0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:54.600 I got hurt thirty five years ago, and I believe 0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:57.480 they've had thirty seven different starting quarterbacks in that period 0:23:57.520 --> 0:23:59.879 of time. Where you take a look at teams like 0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:02.119 the forty nine ers, teams like the Packers that have 0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:05.800 had consistency over over a couple of decades with different people, 0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:07.960 and that's I think what we're searching for. And Dwayne 0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:11.040 Haskins is a very fine young quarterback that we hope 0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:13.600 will be a kid going forward that can be sort 0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:16.800 of the beginning of stability at that position on this 0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:19.080 football team. But it starts with that position. Yeah, And 0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:21.320 I'm trying to think, when's the last time you had 0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:25.159 a quarterback where you went. I feel pretty confident with 0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:29.040 the franchise in his hands. It's been a long time, 0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:32.320 it really has. I mean, just to put in perspective, 0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:35.520 not to two to horn, so to speak. But I'm 0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:40.480 second in Sammy bought to consecutive starts for the organization 0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:45.480 in the history of the organization at ninety nine and Sammy, 0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:47.520 I believe it was one hundred and thirteen or something 0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:50.240 like that. But when you have someone who played thirty 0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:54.119 five years ago and is second in the franchise's history. 0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:56.920 When it comes to consecutive starts, you know that there's 0:24:56.960 --> 0:24:59.480 been instability at that position. I believe Mark Rippon is 0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:02.760 third at like seventy eight. So you have to have 0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:06.160 somebody line up and play year after year after year 0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:09.760 after year. And you need consistent coaching, which is another thing. 0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:11.800 We've had a lot of different coaches come through. I 0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:15.760 think Ron Rivera is the perfect choice for this football franchise. 0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:19.359 His staff has veterans, it has young people, but there's 0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:22.480 been just a lack of consistency in different positions and 0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:24.359 it's been tough. And it's not that Dan's not try 0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:27.680 and listen, you know, everybody sort of jumps all over Dan, 0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:31.280 But was he trying too hard? Joe? Sometimes owners get 0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:34.639 too involved, and we know they made their money in 0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:38.720 a different, you know, industry, and you know, the blue 0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:41.600 bloods turn it over to their people and say, you coach, 0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:43.560 you be the GM. I'm going to stay out of 0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:47.320 the way. Is Dan Snyder too involved? No? Not. There 0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:49.520 was a time when he was involved more heavily than 0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:51.879 he is now. But what he's done is he's stepped 0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:53.879 back and he's trying to find the right combination Like 0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:56.040 I said, I believe that this is the right combination 0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:59.480 going forward. Finally, for him, I think there's so much 0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:04.160 change it's happening, so much almost confusion when it comes 0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:06.280 to what needs to be done. But I think he's 0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:08.680 got a clear vision and picture of what he wants now. 0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:13.000 He is involved as any owner. When you have franchises 0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:15.280 that are worth billions of dollars, you have every right 0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:18.240 to be involved. You're writing checks, you're writing big checks, 0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:20.719 so you want to know what's going on. But when 0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:23.359 it comes to the day to day operations, other people 0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:25.680 will have input into it. And just if you listen 0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:28.080 to the conversations and read some of the stuff regarding 0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:31.240 Ron Rivera and Dan Snyder in conversation about the name, 0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:34.520 Ron's very heavily involved. Yeah, this isn't just going to 0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:36.440 be Dan's going to say I want this and it's 0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:39.320 going to happen now. He's very They're very heavily involved. 0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:42.600 We're talking to Joe thisman, former NFL MVP. He's got 0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:45.320 a new book and just published last month, How to 0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:48.879 Be a Champion every Day and Timeless Keys to Success. 0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:54.400 You saw Dak Prescott, and Dak Prescott is probably going 0:26:54.440 --> 0:26:58.040 to sign that franchise tag. Here, would you invest in 0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:01.000 Dak Prescott long term if you were the Dallas Cowboys. 0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:03.560 If I was the Dallas Cowboys, I would do exactly 0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:05.760 what Jerry Jones is doing. I would offer him the 0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:09.919 contract of four years. I believe the numbers somewhere between 0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:12.160 thirty two and thirty five million per year with one 0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:16.000 hundred million guaranteed. I would make that offer because there's 0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:18.840 changes the league. We don't know what this football season 0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:20.720 is going to look like. We don't know if there's 0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:23.240 going to be any type of OTAs or many much 0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:24.960 much of a mini camp, to be honest with it, 0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:27.320 and then we don't know what the season's going to 0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:29.640 be like. Plus he's under a new coach, he has 0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:32.680 a new system to learn. And the other thing is 0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:35.040 is the Cowboys want a five year deal. From what 0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:38.439 I understand, Dak wants a four. The numbers somewhere in 0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:41.359 the low thirty millions. I think that's a fair number. 0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:44.520 Dak rolls the dice at thirty one four and says, hey, 0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:46.520 look I may take a chance and be franchise. They 0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:49.200 can franchise him again, I think next year at thirty eight. 0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:52.720 But they don't really know what they have at this point. 0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:54.880 And part of it is the economics stand in the game. 0:27:55.280 --> 0:28:00.280 You know, salary cap is based upon revenue. If the Redskins, 0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:03.560 if the Washington franchise, or all the franchises don't make 0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:05.760 the money they think, and it's estimated to be somewhere 0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:09.600 in the neighborhood of one hundred million dollars less per franchise, 0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:13.560 you're talking three points somehow billion dollars. And now what's 0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:15.480 the cap going to be next year? We've seen the 0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:17.760 cap continue to go up and up and up, but 0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:20.639 in this environment, there isn't a guarantee of anything. But 0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:23.280 do you think franchise I think Black has a chance. 0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:26.159 I mean, I think Dak really has a chance to 0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:29.399 do something special because, and I've always believed this, the 0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:32.480 quarterback is the single most dependent player on the field. 0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:34.880 I mean, you just have to depend on so many 0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:38.160 different things. Guys catching the ball, defense is stopping people, 0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:43.200 kicks being made, blocks being made. You you're part of it, 0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:45.960 really is just a part. And he's got some really good, 0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:49.880 tremendous pieces on the offensive side with him, and like 0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:53.120 I said, for him, if he should sign a five 0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:55.320 year contract, because he's never going to see the fifth 0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:58.840 year anyway. You know, if he does what he expects 0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:01.080 to do and what the cow Boys want him to do, 0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:03.400 he may not even see the He may not even 0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:06.440 see year four before he gets another deal on top 0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:08.800 of it. So I don't know what I'm not I 0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:10.600 don't know what the hang up is. I know that 0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:13.640 the offer sounds, you know, like Jerry is being fair 0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:16.680 and equitable with them, and you know, I wish him 0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:18.440 all the luck in the world going out there. And 0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:20.600 if you're going to roll the dice, you know, go 0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:24.520 make him pay. We're starting to see I guess it's 0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:27.480 a trend now, and maybe it was there, but it 0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:29.880 was in the embryonic stages. And that is the quarterback 0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:33.400 who can run, put pressure on you but also be 0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:35.600 able to throw the deep ball. And Lamar Jackson it 0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:38.280 feels like his blueprint is I can put pressure on 0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:41.760 you on the edges, and if you bite on me running, 0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:43.560 I can throw the deep ball and try to get 0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:47.200 some home runs. Here is the future of the NFL. 0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:51.080 The style of Patrick Mahomes, or of Lamar Jackson or 0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:55.960 someone else. I think somewhat of a combination, you know, 0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:58.720 Patrick isn't in that class when it comes to running 0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:01.920 like Lamar does, or even Kyler Murray out in Arizona. 0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:04.960 There's another one who has uses his legs a lot. 0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:08.640 Cam Newton found out that if you use your legs 0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:10.400 a lot and you can't throw the ball out of 0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:12.560 the pocket, it'll wear you down in a hurry and 0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:15.200 beat you up. I think that you still have to 0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:17.239 be able to operate out of the pocket, especially with 0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:19.600 the gun the way it is now and the spread 0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:22.200 offenses that we're running, you still have to be able 0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:24.520 to do that on a consistent basis, because at this 0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:27.720 level you can't run around and take the pounding over 0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:29.520 a year after year after year and expect to be 0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:31.640 able to play a long time. I think Lamar is 0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:34.120 a very unique individual. Of course, an MVP of the league. 0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:37.400 Patrick Mahomes is another one who has the ability to escape. 0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:40.120 Jimmy Garoppolo is another one who has that ability to 0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:43.280 be able to move around. But I still believe foundationally 0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:45.880 you have to be able to operate out of the pocket. 0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:48.680 Look at the guys that have won the championships, Peyton Manning, 0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:52.480 even Aaron Rodgers dand Aaron has the ability to move, 0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:54.880 but we don't see him do it a lot. Of course, 0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:58.240 Tom Brady has six championships. So when you start to 0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:02.240 put together look at the way the offenses are constructed. 0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:04.560 You have to be able to start and operate out 0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:06.240 of the pocket. And then, oh, by the way, if 0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:09.000 you need to put pressure on people. I will say 0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:12.680 this about Lamar Lamar. I thought improved tremendously last year 0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:15.680 throwing the football down the field. And the thing that 0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:19.200 his skills and Kyler Murray's in particular present is that 0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:22.000 a defense can't just put their ears back and come 0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:25.560 after him because you can't give them escape lanes. You 0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:27.120 want to be able to keep him in the pocket, 0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:30.200 especially Kyler at his size. You want to make him 0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:32.080 throw from the forest. You want to make him throw 0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:34.200 through the trees, because he's not gonna be able to 0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:35.600 see a lot of things down the field. I know, 0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:38.280 as a six foot guy myself that when I played, 0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:41.760 it's you know, it's difficult. You're really not You're throwing 0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:44.480 in between lanes, you're not throwing over people. But also 0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:47.200 you didn't get the credit, and maybe there weren't enough 0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:49.280 people after you. You know, Drew Breese gets a lot 0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:53.520 of credit because Drew Brees at his size. Hey, you 0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:55.680 don't have to be six four. You were six foot. 0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:59.360 You were the league MVP, but it felt like you 0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:01.920 were an anomaly and people weren't going to go, Oh, 0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:04.720 it's like Russell Wilson. You know, Russell Wilson I think 0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:08.239 got an opportunity because of Drew Brees. But you know 0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:11.240 you were prior, your predecessor to Drew Brees as far 0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:14.080 as being successful and not being six four like Dan 0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:17.160 Marino or John Elway. Well there were you know, there 0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:19.440 were other guys before me, like Bob Greasy was one. 0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:21.840 I think Roger Staubach wasn't the tallest of all, maybe 0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:24.520 a couple inches taller than I. But the game has 0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:27.960 evolved in so many different ways, from rules, from the 0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:31.240 wide open nature of it, from the different positions we 0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:34.160 used to you went, we went through this with wide receivers. 0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:36.800 We want we want the tall guy so we can 0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:38.640 throw the ball in a general area and let him 0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:40.840 make a play. Then we wanted the quick one to 0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:42.600 be able to get down the field. Then we wanted 0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:45.560 the fast one, and it football does that, it has 0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:48.080 its ebbs and flows. We want the big corner because 0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:50.400 we want to play cover two. Now we want the 0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:53.400 little corner because we're going to go man demand and 0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:56.080 at the quarterback position. Now I think we're leaning more 0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:59.000 and more towards the fact that we want somebody with mobility. 0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:02.840 But again, Drew Brees throws out of the pocket all 0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:05.240 the time. Drew's not going to run away from anybody. 0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:08.760 Eline never ran away from anybody in New York. So, 0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:12.280 but there aren't a lot of them coming out of college, Dan. 0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:15.200 That's the thing is the college game is a little 0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:19.560 bit different than ours because, for example, you take guys 0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:22.120 to throw bubble screens all the time. Take a university, 0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:24.920 it throws bubble screens. O house state. Okay, you can 0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:28.160 have thirty five, forty fifty touchdown passes and have and 0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:30.840 fifteen of them are going to be because somebody made 0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:34.000 somebody miss and ran a lot of yards. So it's 0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:36.320 the concepts of the offenses that the kids are coming 0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:39.400 out of, it's the size of the kids, it's their athleticism. 0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:41.440 These are all things you have to take into consideration. 0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:44.520 Plus again, I don't know what football is going to 0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:47.160 look like in two thousand and twenty one, more or 0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:49.959 less twenty But I do know that the rookies are 0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:53.160 behind going to be behind the eight ball here. You've 0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:56.200 got the young free agents, You've got new coaches that 0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:59.520 are trying instill systems. All these things are done by 0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:03.280 as you and I talk now on Zoom. Joe has 0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:06.200 a bookshelf behind him and he's only got four books 0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:09.000 in the bookshelf, and they're all the same book that 0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:12.719 Joe just put out. It's it's Joe's book in There's 0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:16.680 you got five books there, Joe. Joe's got his book 0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:19.880 there and how to be a Champion. Six Timeless Keys 0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:24.439 to Success, great tan, great hair, you got it all. Joe, 0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:27.200 you look like a successor. Thing is you're looking You're 0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:31.120 looking good. Yeah. Yeah, it's great to talk to you 0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:33.960 as always, Joe, Thank you. Thanks, great to catch up 0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:37.319 with you. Take care of yourself. Matt's Joe thiseman, We'll 0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:39.399 be back close up shop here on The Dan Patrick Show. 0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:41.560 Off to this. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick 0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.440 Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:47.279 morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on 0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:49.640 Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on the 0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:53.839 iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live every day 0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:57.520 at YouTube dot com, slash The Dan Patrick Show, last 0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:00.560 call for phone calls, close up shop, what we learned, 0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:03.720 what's in store tomorrow? Also this day in sports history, 0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:11.319 most different starting quarterbacks since nineteen eighty six Number one 0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:17.160 on that list. You're Cleveland Browns forty different starting quarterbacks 0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:23.480 since nineteen eighty six. The Bears thirty eight different starting quarterbacks. 0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:27.920 They're about to add to that the Arizona Cardinals thirty six, 0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:34.719 and then the Washington Redskins with thirty four different starting quarterbacks. 0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:39.840 Seems to be a common thread in there. Those franchises 0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:43.360 haven't been that good. Arizona had its brief run with 0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:46.160 Kurt Warner. Yes, McLevin. Did the Browns even go away 0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:49.200 for a few years? And that did? They take six 0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:53.160 years off between ninety five and I don't how long 0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:57.680 were they gone from Cleveland? I forget, Yeah, how many years? 0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:04.160 We know? Who knows. Let's just for the our information guy. 0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:06.880 He's not a stats guy. He's not our information guy. 0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:10.280 We've emboldened him. Now every three minutes, there's a gem 0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:15.080 coming through. Oh, he just sent me one. Here's Ethan, 0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:24.680 our research analysts. Let's see better be good. Every precedent 0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:28.839 in US sports, is that a franchise changing its name 0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:31.600 or location keeps all the records. So Earl Campbell is 0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:35.400 still the career leader in rushing touchdowns for the Oilers 0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:41.120 Titans franchise. No, that's okay, Yeah, that's kind of that's 0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:44.840 not that impressive. Yes, I thought when Joe Tisman said that, 0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:47.160 I'm like, you're obviously records are not going to change 0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:49.560 for this. I thought that. No, I can't believe he 0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:52.920 bought that up. Yeah, you're not changing locations, you're just 0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:55.880 changing names. I think Joe was hopeful that it would 0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:59.520 change and that four records will be permanent. With the 0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:02.279 Washington Well, I think he only threw for twenty five 0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:06.200 thousand yards in his career, and I think he's still 0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:09.600 the career passing leader for the Washington Redskins with twenty 0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:16.120 five thousand. I think that's why Joe asked. Right, Ethan 0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:19.680 did respond to the Browns hiatus. It was a three 0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:23.480 years from nineteen ninety six to nineteen ninety eight. Thank you, Ethan, 0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:28.800 Thank you, Murphy, and Georgia joins us. Hey, Murph, what 0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:31.359 do you have for me today? How are you doing? 0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:36.160 Good morning, Good morning, listen. I was wondering about concerning Dallas. Okay, 0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:39.760 they had a running back before Elliott that was real good, 0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:44.560 and Jones said, Owen plied that anybody can run behind 0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:46.880 that line. Do you think it's the same thing that 0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:51.239 quarterback in Dallas that anybody can a mediocre quarterback could 0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:54.560 win them considering everything they have. Well, I think it 0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:57.640 helps a mediocre quarterback that you have those weapons there. 0:37:57.760 --> 0:37:59.839 Now they had Marian Barber, but you might be talking 0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:04.640 DeMarco Murray. Wasn't he in Dallas as well? And I 0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:07.440 do believe this woe. I wouldn't have paid Zekiel Elliott 0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:11.160 because you've already gotten the best years. I don't think 0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:13.960 he comes close to what he's done before. And now 0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:19.000 you're putting more more on Dak. Prescott's played more pressure 0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:22.360 on him that it's now become a quarterback offense, not 0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:26.799 a running back offense. Do I think Andy Dalton could 0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:30.200 put up similar numbers with the Cowboys? I do, I do, 0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:33.399 But I do think Dak has an extra dimension there. 0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:36.600 He has a higher ceiling at his age. We know 0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:39.799 what Andy Dalton is and you know who he's been 0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:43.920 and he was a quality quarterback. Now you can't deny 0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:47.719 the run that they had and he played well. But 0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:51.120 we love potential, we love the unknown, and Dak Prescott 0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:55.320 still has the unknown, Deshaun Watson, the unknown, Kyler Murray 0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:59.799 the unknown, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes. It's when you know, 0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:04.320 it's like the Bears know what they have in Mitchell Trubisky. 0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:10.359 They probably have seen his best. There's no real mystery there, 0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:14.720 the mystique of the potential. You know, Jameis Winston still 0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:20.840 has that. Marcus Mariota doesn't have that, but Jamis Winston 0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:24.120 has a little bit of that. Baker Mayfield has a 0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:28.480 little bit of that. Daniel Jones has shown glimpses of 0:39:28.520 --> 0:39:31.239 the potential there, and that's what we fall in love with. 0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:35.160 Jeff and Detroit. Jeff's been holding since yesterday, I think, 0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:39.960 Jeff welcome. Yeah, you know what, just a quick comment. 0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:42.480 I just find it funny that you guys, out of 0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:46.840 all days, bring this Etherian statistician guy out on Tommy 0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:50.120 Ramo Dak Prescott day. I'm just trying to figure out 0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:57.560 is mclovin, Tommy Romo and that Prescott? Wow? Jeff, Hey, listen, 0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:03.960 my advice to mclovin, don't call us bro whoa. How 0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:09.440 about Jeff cracking himself up? You know, maybe if mclovin 0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:12.160 takes some time off being with the family, Ethan could 0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:16.200 stop in. Seems like he's a good team player, offering 0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:19.719 some stats. Kind of a me guy though, Oh you 0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:24.320 thinking it's all about himself? Yeah, real fun standing around 0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:29.440 the water cooler hearing about the stats from the AFL. Yeah, 0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:34.640 that won't get old. You know what it gets old? 0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:37.560 What gets old is when I asked for some information 0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:39.880 and I don't get any information from you. We'd like 0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:42.880 to keep you guessing. We're building suspense. Yeah, yeah, we 0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:45.520 can get you information. We provide you all the information 0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:51.080 we think you need. Yeah, or slightly inaccurate information. And 0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:55.080 you do a great job in that. You know, department, 0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:57.880 You're irreplaceable when it when it comes to giving this 0:40:58.040 --> 0:41:02.040 information or no informational you're replaceable. Like the anniversary of 0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:07.920 Adam Sandler's first episode, I don't know why we have 0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:12.320 to do that, Toddler deflect deflect. By the way, Todd 0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:16.480 is going to spring for pizza. How about that? That's crazy, Tom, 0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:19.960 I know, I think we're gonna do the pizza challenge 0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:21.600 that I did over my vacation. I don't know how 0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:25.839 gonna peel the card out of the wallet. Cobb still 0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:31.960 got that sticker on that. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, what 0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:35.440 did you What did you learn today? Todd Statsky, Ethan 0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:37.160 make you a Dan. That's especially my friend here and 0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:39.839 mclovin in the back row. Look bad, mcloven. What did 0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:42.919 you learn? Nobody likes to know it all? Nobody likes 0:41:43.280 --> 0:41:46.279 it all. Seaton O'Connor. 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