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Speaker 1: Jason Sudeikis, the actor comedian, former Saturday Night Live cast
Speaker 1: member Joe Thiseman, former Redskins MVP Jonas as well. I
Speaker 1: saw this tweet by Shams on the Athletic Multiple tips
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Speaker 1: I guess they have multiple tips in there with guys
Speaker 1: violating this. And then you have this interview Spencer Dinwiddie,
Speaker 1: who I believe is already tested positive. He was giving
Speaker 1: advice for NBA players in the bubble and he was
Speaker 1: with Taylor Rooks on Bleacher Report and had the following advice.
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Speaker 1: explain that to his wife. Sorry. Mark. Marvin came out
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Speaker 1: email ADDRESSDPA, Dan Patrick dot com, Jesse and Los Angeles
Speaker 1: and just hey, Jess, what do you have for me?
Speaker 1: Hey Dan, Dan, that's a great show today, Thank you,
Speaker 1: Oh hey, work. I always wanted something new with you guys,
Speaker 1: So thanks. But I wanted to ask you, guys if
Speaker 1: if you know what Ethan the Stack Guy's knowledge is
Speaker 1: as it pertains of sharks. Yeah, wow, yeah, oh Jess
Speaker 1: that that's so inside the belt, but really really good.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Because mclovin is his brand is you're the
Speaker 1: shark guy. Well yeah, so you might not have noticed
Speaker 1: when Ethan started setting all these really smart emails. I
Speaker 1: started transitioning towards sharks as a way to keep my
Speaker 1: value and something. My brand is evolving because of well,
Speaker 1: Ethan is our stats guy. Yeah, I kind of used
Speaker 1: to be the guy who's pretty good with stats, had
Speaker 1: time to google him during the show. Yeah, and now
Speaker 1: all of a sudden he's infringed on mclovin's territory and
Speaker 1: mcloven is now moving on to being our shark expert.
Speaker 1: A little bit, a little bit more detail here, I think, yes,
Speaker 1: point I heard he took a sabbatical Harvard to be
Speaker 1: a marine biologist for a year. But yeah, Ethan, Ethan
Speaker 1: is a he's a star. And people say it looks
Speaker 1: like Clive Owen too, get out of here, as he
Speaker 1: ever seen a great white? I don't know. Do you
Speaker 1: know I did last year seton It's funny you mentioned that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're once again you are so brave mclovn. I think
Speaker 1: we're underplaying that story. Yeah, that's what mclovin said. I said,
Speaker 1: how are we under you didn't You weren't in the
Speaker 1: water with a great white shark? You saw it. I
Speaker 1: saw a great white in the ocean a hundred yards away,
Speaker 1: but you were on the beach. You're still underplaying it.
Speaker 1: I think we're underplaying this story. The fact that I've
Speaker 1: seen a great way and the Dak Prescott situation is
Speaker 1: the same. It looks like he's going to be, you know,
Speaker 1: have that franchise tag and that's it and thirty one
Speaker 1: point four million, And doesn't look like the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: gonna be budging off. They want five years, Dak wants
Speaker 1: four years. Joe Eisman will have some comments on that,
Speaker 1: as well as the Washington Edskins changing their nickname. Jason Sudeikis.
Speaker 1: We caught up with Jason a couple of days ago
Speaker 1: and he's got a new show. It's called Tournament of Laughs.
Speaker 1: It's hosted by Jason. It every Sundays at ten Eastern
Speaker 1: on TBS. And I started the interview, I asked him,
Speaker 1: does he get to choose the names of his characters
Speaker 1: in a movie, like Principal Brown in Book Smart or
Speaker 1: Kurt Buckman in Horrible Bosses. Kurt Buckman, No, although I did.
Speaker 1: I have friend named Dave Buckman, so that I think
Speaker 1: maybe I just sort of like honored that. And then
Speaker 1: Principal Brown his full name is Jordan Brown, who is
Speaker 1: a good friend of Olivia Eyes. So like there's always um,
Speaker 1: you know, if they let you. Yeah, I'll always try.
Speaker 1: I use a lot of old you know, grade school
Speaker 1: friends and whatnot. That was a big point of pride
Speaker 1: on my ass nowadays, was to you know, never have
Speaker 1: my name referred to but playing a doctor and playing
Speaker 1: like doctor Tim Grasser, who was you know, one of
Speaker 1: my best friends in high school and just and it
Speaker 1: just appears on a door or on a name plate,
Speaker 1: and you know, it really lights lights my Facebook page
Speaker 1: up for you know, a good three days. But fred
Speaker 1: in a hall Pass? Did you not yet? That was
Speaker 1: already there? That was That was you know, I didn't
Speaker 1: have any you know, the deep and wide Hollywood juice
Speaker 1: that I have now that when I'm just along for
Speaker 1: the ride and I'm wondering how often you had guys
Speaker 1: come up and say, hey, I tried the hall Pass thing,
Speaker 1: like you get people in real life who who say
Speaker 1: that they've tried to get the hall Pass or did
Speaker 1: the hall Pass or inspired by hall Pass. Literally the
Speaker 1: most it comes up, it will be like guys being like, hey,
Speaker 1: oh man, I love Hall Pass. I watched it in
Speaker 1: a hotel when I was you know, away from home,
Speaker 1: you know, for a work trip. Like implying that their
Speaker 1: their their wife or their partner would not let them
Speaker 1: watch on the home Delevaid like, no, honey, we're not
Speaker 1: going to watch Hall Pass, even though you know, having
Speaker 1: you know, watch the movie a couple of times, like,
Speaker 1: you know, we we honor the female side of the
Speaker 1: Hall Pass as well. But but yeah, definitely, I've never
Speaker 1: heard anybody actually take take it up on it. I've
Speaker 1: heard the term bandied around like hey, you know, like
Speaker 1: you know, so and so is my Hall Pass. I'm like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: well that's great, you know, just sort of like whoever
Speaker 1: that might be, you know, uh, you know, to be.
Speaker 1: But does this come up with your wife where you know,
Speaker 1: you know, she'll eventually say, do guys really think that
Speaker 1: way or talk about that stuff? It's all make believe, tough.
Speaker 1: That's that's the beauty of having someone who's also in
Speaker 1: the business. When you're an actor, it's such a weird,
Speaker 1: you know thing you have to pretend to fall in
Speaker 1: love with people and you know, all that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: and so she knows, you know, it's all it's all
Speaker 1: make believes, it's all wish fulfilment. Uh. The The show
Speaker 1: is Tournament of Laughs and it airs Sundays at ten
Speaker 1: Eastern on TBS. How much of a stand up comedian
Speaker 1: are you or did you want to be? I never
Speaker 1: did it. I've done stand up maybe twice, um, you know,
Speaker 1: no three times. The first first couple of times I
Speaker 1: auditioned for SML was in a stand up venue before
Speaker 1: they have you do the screen test, which happens on
Speaker 1: what we call a home base. That's like where the
Speaker 1: host as the monologue. And then the one other time
Speaker 1: I did it was like a corporate gig, hired by
Speaker 1: a business back home in Kansas City, and I did
Speaker 1: it where they were like, hey, you know, do thirty
Speaker 1: minutes you're you're opening for the Little River Band. This
Speaker 1: is true and and and I thought, oh, I'll just
Speaker 1: you know, I'll tell like, you know, three or four
Speaker 1: stories from my early SML days and then maybe take
Speaker 1: questions and you know, kind of go to the Carol
Speaker 1: Burnett show We're oute and be like, oh maybe I
Speaker 1: can you know. And it was so scary. It's so scary.
Speaker 1: I prefer to have you know, someone on you know,
Speaker 1: in the foxhole with me of when a sketch is
Speaker 1: dying or you know, an improvised scene is dying, and
Speaker 1: you know I'm a team sport guy, and so like,
Speaker 1: stand up, you know, all respect because those guys and
Speaker 1: gals that do it on a daily, you know, nightly basis.
Speaker 1: But for me, it's too scary. I want I want
Speaker 1: someone in the ship with me when we're going down
Speaker 1: to look at each other and be like, oh, here
Speaker 1: we go. This is not flying. Because that's time I
Speaker 1: did it. I immediately called a buddy who worked for
Speaker 1: that company and text them afterwards, going to it. I
Speaker 1: just did. I just eat dookie and everybody for for
Speaker 1: a large, you know, chunk of change from a local
Speaker 1: you know, local boy does good and then clearly not
Speaker 1: that good. It was it was, it was. It was intimidating,
Speaker 1: to say the least, and just that sort of having
Speaker 1: no one else to blame it on. Besides you know
Speaker 1: this yourself and your apathy or your work ethic is
Speaker 1: too much for me to handle. Now I can't do it.
Speaker 1: But here you are hosting this and explain the premise
Speaker 1: of a tournament of laughs, Well, I basically it's just,
Speaker 1: you know, it was you know, pitched a while back
Speaker 1: by the producers as a way to uh, you know,
Speaker 1: make up for the March madness tournament for for you know,
Speaker 1: UM and as being um you know, canceled this year.
Speaker 1: And yes, basically stand ups people who primarily you know
Speaker 1: from stand up with some you know, the different folks
Speaker 1: to like Michael Rappaport and Try and Plainsil Comic Dog,
Speaker 1: you know, having fun making home videos and then yeah,
Speaker 1: letting the letting the audience at home, you know, decide
Speaker 1: who who moves on UM and then I'm basically you know,
Speaker 1: doing year old you know, like kind of like the
Speaker 1: host of Sports Center, you know, just doing a little
Speaker 1: commentary before and afterwards and just kind of explaining when
Speaker 1: you know, a number eight seeds has upset a number
Speaker 1: two seed or what have you. Uh, And yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's you know today. We film it based on
Speaker 1: tonight's or last night's you know results. So it's about
Speaker 1: as close to the FNL turnaround that we used to have, uh,
Speaker 1: which is which is fun because I'll do like you know,
Speaker 1: a table read here in an hour or so and
Speaker 1: then a while you know, it's a free tape anyway, anyway,
Speaker 1: but yeah, the turnarounds, the turnounds pretty pretty exciting too,
Speaker 1: because it's just like you know, go go go. We
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta film this so they can edit it
Speaker 1: and then have it ready for next week. And and
Speaker 1: uh yeah, just one thing or another. He's Jason Sadeka's
Speaker 1: The show is Tournament of Laughs and airs Sundays at
Speaker 1: ten eastern on TBS. When you were in college at
Speaker 1: Fort Scott Community College, did we ever show any of
Speaker 1: your highlights on Sports Center? I don't think so. Okay,
Speaker 1: there it was there, Maybe on ESPN four it might
Speaker 1: have been further down, like in between, you know, the
Speaker 1: footage of a father and son playing catch out back,
Speaker 1: you know, like it would be it was. What was
Speaker 1: the highlight? I had many? What was the highlight of
Speaker 1: your college basketball career? That's a good question. Probably probably
Speaker 1: when we played against Ruben Patterson at Independence Community College
Speaker 1: and he had like fifty points on us and I
Speaker 1: would say forty of the more dunks, Like that was
Speaker 1: the highlight. He went to Cincinnati after that, didn't he? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean to play basketball, how much you
Speaker 1: went to the class? I mean, you know, Bobby Huggins was,
Speaker 1: you know, coach, he coached with a different mentality than
Speaker 1: you know, than than maybe it was the nineties, you know,
Speaker 1: it was a different, and I was also wondering about
Speaker 1: Ted Lasso. Yeah, now you you did those promos for
Speaker 1: the Premier League with NBC and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: are we going to do a series on Ted Lasso?
Speaker 1: Is this like uh Brockmeyer? Uh, Jim Brockmeyer. Right, No,
Speaker 1: that's which is one of my father's favorite shows. When
Speaker 1: he when he heard we were doing the show, you
Speaker 1: and I told him the premise, he was like, hey,
Speaker 1: sound like Brockmeyer, which, you know, Uh, if I can
Speaker 1: make my dad happy that way, than all for it.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, that I mean, yeah, just seven seven
Speaker 1: short years later, now you come into an Apple an
Speaker 1: Apple Plus channel near you. But yeah, the trailer drops
Speaker 1: tomorrow actually uh uh and yeah, we filmed the first season.
Speaker 1: It comes out August fourteenth on Apple Plus and it's
Speaker 1: the same premise as the first commercial. I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: a small time college football coach who gets hired to
Speaker 1: coach a professional, you know, Premier League team, a fictional
Speaker 1: one AFC Richmond. But but yeah, we're we're with ten episodes.
Speaker 1: All that all starts in about a month. Is the
Speaker 1: Mustache reel? Oh yeah, very much. So. It wasn't in
Speaker 1: the it wasn't in the second commercial. The second commercial,
Speaker 1: we we you know, I didn't have the time to
Speaker 1: grow it, but we had some of the geniuses behind
Speaker 1: the scenes that s and I will help help me
Speaker 1: do that. But yeah, this for the TV show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all real, all real, and the accidents real too. If
Speaker 1: I've had enough Jack danions. But do you do you
Speaker 1: know soccer or is that part of the fun of
Speaker 1: this that I think you're a football coach? Going, are
Speaker 1: you a real football coach like our football? Then you
Speaker 1: go over there? Okay exactly. Yeah, like though the whole
Speaker 1: time of the yeah, I was a I'm I'm a
Speaker 1: football coach from Wichita State, which doesn't have a football team,
Speaker 1: so you know. And then yeah, I had a viral
Speaker 1: video kind of like you know that great video of
Speaker 1: Roy Williams, you know, walking into the locker room after
Speaker 1: a tart heels victory in dancing and everything for his players,
Speaker 1: and that video catches the eye of the owner of
Speaker 1: a professional soccer team over there in in the UK,
Speaker 1: and so they hire me, you know, just to sort
Speaker 1: of shake things up, um, because they're at the point
Speaker 1: of possibly being relegated and all that, and so yeah,
Speaker 1: I I But to answer your question, I've learned. I
Speaker 1: learned more and more with every with every night that
Speaker 1: I uh, you know, played FIFA, you know on the Xbox.
Speaker 1: I learned a little bit more about the beautiful game.
Speaker 1: But but and all, honestly, no, I didn't. I don't
Speaker 1: know much. And a lot of those commercials play the
Speaker 1: guy who plays my assistant coach, Brendan the Hunt who's
Speaker 1: also plays my assistant coach on the show in one
Speaker 1: of the co writers co creators, that's how we described
Speaker 1: He describes you know, football or soccer to me is
Speaker 1: by using metaphor, whether it be from you know, nineties
Speaker 1: uh NBA, eighties, hip hop, Broadway musicals, like he can
Speaker 1: break it down for me if if, if, if, I
Speaker 1: am you know, paralleling for something I already know. And
Speaker 1: that's sort of part of the fun of you know,
Speaker 1: at least for the drive for the comedy of the show.
Speaker 1: And then then the rest is all just you know,
Speaker 1: the high stakes. Are you too old now? I think
Speaker 1: you're turning with forty five? So are you too old
Speaker 1: to play video games? At home? Will your wife allow
Speaker 1: you to play video games? Oh? Yeah, yeah, no, we
Speaker 1: got a little six year old boy who we play.
Speaker 1: We played through you know, Lego Star Wars. I mean
Speaker 1: there's a deep, deep concern in our household about him
Speaker 1: becoming addicted. But I, but I we have we have
Speaker 1: a group of guys from the from the show that
Speaker 1: do play FIFA, like they have a thing called pro clubs,
Speaker 1: you know that we play almost you know, almost nightly,
Speaker 1: you know, like a golf course, like hey, you know,
Speaker 1: we have a text chain going, Hey, you know, someone
Speaker 1: sends out the bat signal that we hop on there
Speaker 1: for you know, a game. A game takes seventeen minutes.
Speaker 1: We have that down because all of us have partners
Speaker 1: and you know, other responsibilities. So you can only sit
Speaker 1: in a room with a control in your hand for
Speaker 1: so long. And that sounds like a series in itself. Jason,
Speaker 1: I mean with this, you know, with this Twitch platform,
Speaker 1: anything's possible, you know, you know, quarantine and and the internet.
Speaker 1: Anything to the show. Paul is Will Farrell on the line.
Speaker 1: Not this time, Oh he's not. Okay, Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna take it personal if you don't were you gonna
Speaker 1: were you upset in the slightest when Will Farrell interrupted
Speaker 1: their phone call? No, okay, no, um, you know, honestly,
Speaker 1: I feel like it's, um, you know, he's he's got
Speaker 1: to do it. There's demons there that you know. I
Speaker 1: bet there's part of him that was upset that he
Speaker 1: did it, you know, I bet if we really got
Speaker 1: into it, I think there's part of him that, you know,
Speaker 1: probably felt, you know, like I let I let people down,
Speaker 1: like it's too needy, too thirsty, as the kids say,
Speaker 1: you know, um no, it didn't didn't bother me at all.
Speaker 1: Oh god, we laughed so hard. It was four years ago,
Speaker 1: but you know that that it's those moments that remind
Speaker 1: you of who who, how funny people are. Your line
Speaker 1: was so quick and so sharp, is like, you know,
Speaker 1: you could have why didn't why need an email? You
Speaker 1: could have emailed And it was just so in the moment,
Speaker 1: and it was such a throwaway line. But I still
Speaker 1: remember it because you're right, and Will of course played
Speaker 1: it off, and I think he was called He acted
Speaker 1: like you you weren't on the phone, and then he
Speaker 1: he just had to call in. I think we were
Speaker 1: planning on a trip to Dublin and he wanted to
Speaker 1: go to the Guinness Brewery. It was just so random
Speaker 1: and he's like Dan, Dan, Hey, I'm doing an interview
Speaker 1: with Jason. Okay, Hey, I really want to go to
Speaker 1: Dublin with you guys. And then that's why I think
Speaker 1: he said, couldn't you have emailed? You know? Yeah, good stuff?
Speaker 1: You know, maybe maybe he was in the car, maybe
Speaker 1: he was doing the safe thing or knows, but but yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I mean, Will Tom Hanks, Oprah Winfrey, Beyonce. There's certain
Speaker 1: people that they interrupt you, you don't mind. I mean
Speaker 1: maybe after it, maybe if it becomes a visual, if
Speaker 1: it's like you know again, if he would have done
Speaker 1: it today, and then that'd be something we'd have to
Speaker 1: have offline conversations about. You know. Well, good luck with
Speaker 1: all the projects, certainly with what's going on with Tournament
Speaker 1: of Laughs. It's great talk to you. Thanks again. We
Speaker 1: appreciate you talk to him four years all right, Thank you, Jason.
Speaker 1: That's Jason Sadeka's Tournament of Laughs and it's Sunday's at
Speaker 1: ten eastern on TVs. Joe Thiseman is checked in. We'll
Speaker 1: get to Joe coming up and talk about the redskin situation,
Speaker 1: maybe get his thoughts on Dak Prescott as well. Twenty
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Speaker 1: Still haven't heard any other information than what I imparted
Speaker 1: to you when I started the show about some of
Speaker 1: these cryptic messages tweets that were put out by NFL
Speaker 1: reporters that had to do with the Washington Redskins. That
Speaker 1: it feels like there's a story that's coming out about
Speaker 1: toxic culture there behind the scenes. Nobody has confirmed anything,
Speaker 1: and I said, if we got any information, I tried
Speaker 1: to pass that on. And I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: just a coincidence that it coincides with the name change there,
Speaker 1: with Washington trademark issues there. You've got some minority owners
Speaker 1: in the Redskins who may want to sell, so there's
Speaker 1: there's a whole lot going on. It's sort of at
Speaker 1: the epicenter of the NFL. Joe Thiseman from NFL quarterback
Speaker 1: for the Redskins, a Super Bowl champion and NFL MVP
Speaker 1: joining us on the show. Good Morning, Joe. Where do
Speaker 1: we stand with this franchise right now? I think based
Speaker 1: upon what you reported, Dan and talked about them, You know,
Speaker 1: I don't really know. I have no more information than
Speaker 1: you have regarding what might be coming out. We know
Speaker 1: that at this point, obviously there's going to be a
Speaker 1: name change. After eighty seven years, there will no longer
Speaker 1: be the Washington Redskins and there'll be some other Washington
Speaker 1: name attached and logo attached to the franchise. Interestingly enough,
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy two, the logo itself was designed by
Speaker 1: a Native American, modeled after basically the Buffalo Nickel. And see,
Speaker 1: before I ever really got into this conversation about the name,
Speaker 1: and this has been going on for decades. This isn't
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, come overnight. You know that I
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to Native Americans and get their opinion
Speaker 1: on what they thought about the name the Washington Redskins,
Speaker 1: and I'd say eighty five percent of those that I
Speaker 1: talked to were very positive about it. They were proud
Speaker 1: of it, they were proud of the heritage, they were
Speaker 1: glad that the team represented the Native Americans of this country.
Speaker 1: And then there's a percentage that doesn't like it, and
Speaker 1: that exists today. But for whatever reason and economically, I'm
Speaker 1: sure as part of it, there's going to be a
Speaker 1: change and we move forward with it. But you know,
Speaker 1: the other thing too, is interesting, Dan is what I
Speaker 1: thought about, is what's going on in society today? Is
Speaker 1: July third, the Redskins made an announcement and said, you know,
Speaker 1: we're going to address this issue. We're going to look
Speaker 1: at it, and then all of a sudden, eight days later,
Speaker 1: at change is coming. I guess I asked myself this question.
Speaker 1: We've talked about activism in this country, and we've talked
Speaker 1: about things that should change, but yet they don't. I
Speaker 1: if the Washington Football Organization can do something in eight days,
Speaker 1: why can't other branches of life get something done in
Speaker 1: a hurry? What are we waiting for? I guess that's
Speaker 1: my question. Yeah, But the Redskins, we did a long
Speaker 1: time on this show. I feel like, you know, I
Speaker 1: think if we hadn't been where we are socially and change,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it's but it's it's a change
Speaker 1: that basically has come and those of us that played
Speaker 1: under the moniker of the Washington Redskins down, I mean,
Speaker 1: we won championships there. There's there's a great legacy in
Speaker 1: history that we're a part of and very proud of.
Speaker 1: And I'm excited for this young group of kids, and
Speaker 1: it's a very young football team. I'm excited for them
Speaker 1: to sort of establish their own numbers going forward. And
Speaker 1: this is one question I've yet to find an answer to.
Speaker 1: Maybe your guys and you can help. Will the records
Speaker 1: of the Washington Redskins as of what they were carry
Speaker 1: forward to the new Washington franchise? I mean, did the
Speaker 1: Houston Oiler records carry on to the Tennessee Titans or
Speaker 1: was it just a whole new beginning when it came
Speaker 1: to those players that are going to be a part
Speaker 1: of the franchise. Well, it's just a name change, it's
Speaker 1: not a location change. Because Houston changed and went to Tennessee,
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Colts went to Indianapolis. Yeah, so I think
Speaker 1: that there's a little bit of a separation there. But
Speaker 1: I'm going to guess if the Colts numbers are the
Speaker 1: same or under the same umbrella in Baltimore as they
Speaker 1: are in Indianapolis. How well do you know Daniel Snyder
Speaker 1: and can you could you offered suggestions on how to
Speaker 1: make this franchise better. Well, first of all, Dan has
Speaker 1: been a fan. I've known Dan for a number of
Speaker 1: years and we're friends and and good friends. The thing
Speaker 1: is is, you know he's a fan. He was always
Speaker 1: a fan first. I mean when he was a little kid.
Speaker 1: This was a dream of his to own the Washington Redskins.
Speaker 1: That dream came to fruition roughly twenty years ago and
Speaker 1: it's been a struggle ever since trying to find the
Speaker 1: right combination. And there's other franches that franchises that have
Speaker 1: gone through this same situation where you have a degree
Speaker 1: of success and and all of a sudden you try
Speaker 1: and look for that magic formula again. And for one
Speaker 1: reason or another, I can say the last three years
Speaker 1: this team has been hit with the injury bug more
Speaker 1: than any team in the National Football League. We've had
Speaker 1: more guys on i R in the last three years
Speaker 1: than most teams have in ten. So the lack of
Speaker 1: players and it's a it's consistency and it's a player's game.
Speaker 1: And if you don't have the players, particularly the quarterback position.
Speaker 1: I got hurt thirty five years ago, and I believe
Speaker 1: they've had thirty seven different starting quarterbacks in that period
Speaker 1: of time. Where you take a look at teams like
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, teams like the Packers that have
Speaker 1: had consistency over over a couple of decades with different people,
Speaker 1: and that's I think what we're searching for. And Dwayne
Speaker 1: Haskins is a very fine young quarterback that we hope
Speaker 1: will be a kid going forward that can be sort
Speaker 1: of the beginning of stability at that position on this
Speaker 1: football team. But it starts with that position. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, when's the last time you had
Speaker 1: a quarterback where you went. I feel pretty confident with
Speaker 1: the franchise in his hands. It's been a long time,
Speaker 1: it really has. I mean, just to put in perspective,
Speaker 1: not to two to horn, so to speak. But I'm
Speaker 1: second in Sammy bought to consecutive starts for the organization
Speaker 1: in the history of the organization at ninety nine and Sammy,
Speaker 1: I believe it was one hundred and thirteen or something
Speaker 1: like that. But when you have someone who played thirty
Speaker 1: five years ago and is second in the franchise's history.
Speaker 1: When it comes to consecutive starts, you know that there's
Speaker 1: been instability at that position. I believe Mark Rippon is
Speaker 1: third at like seventy eight. So you have to have
Speaker 1: somebody line up and play year after year after year
Speaker 1: after year. And you need consistent coaching, which is another thing.
Speaker 1: We've had a lot of different coaches come through. I
Speaker 1: think Ron Rivera is the perfect choice for this football franchise.
Speaker 1: His staff has veterans, it has young people, but there's
Speaker 1: been just a lack of consistency in different positions and
Speaker 1: it's been tough. And it's not that Dan's not try
Speaker 1: and listen, you know, everybody sort of jumps all over Dan,
Speaker 1: But was he trying too hard? Joe? Sometimes owners get
Speaker 1: too involved, and we know they made their money in
Speaker 1: a different, you know, industry, and you know, the blue
Speaker 1: bloods turn it over to their people and say, you coach,
Speaker 1: you be the GM. I'm going to stay out of
Speaker 1: the way. Is Dan Snyder too involved? No? Not. There
Speaker 1: was a time when he was involved more heavily than
Speaker 1: he is now. But what he's done is he's stepped
Speaker 1: back and he's trying to find the right combination Like
Speaker 1: I said, I believe that this is the right combination
Speaker 1: going forward. Finally, for him, I think there's so much
Speaker 1: change it's happening, so much almost confusion when it comes
Speaker 1: to what needs to be done. But I think he's
Speaker 1: got a clear vision and picture of what he wants now.
Speaker 1: He is involved as any owner. When you have franchises
Speaker 1: that are worth billions of dollars, you have every right
Speaker 1: to be involved. You're writing checks, you're writing big checks,
Speaker 1: so you want to know what's going on. But when
Speaker 1: it comes to the day to day operations, other people
Speaker 1: will have input into it. And just if you listen
Speaker 1: to the conversations and read some of the stuff regarding
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera and Dan Snyder in conversation about the name,
Speaker 1: Ron's very heavily involved. Yeah, this isn't just going to
Speaker 1: be Dan's going to say I want this and it's
Speaker 1: going to happen now. He's very They're very heavily involved.
Speaker 1: We're talking to Joe thisman, former NFL MVP. He's got
Speaker 1: a new book and just published last month, How to
Speaker 1: Be a Champion every Day and Timeless Keys to Success.
Speaker 1: You saw Dak Prescott, and Dak Prescott is probably going
Speaker 1: to sign that franchise tag. Here, would you invest in
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott long term if you were the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: If I was the Dallas Cowboys, I would do exactly
Speaker 1: what Jerry Jones is doing. I would offer him the
Speaker 1: contract of four years. I believe the numbers somewhere between
Speaker 1: thirty two and thirty five million per year with one
Speaker 1: hundred million guaranteed. I would make that offer because there's
Speaker 1: changes the league. We don't know what this football season
Speaker 1: is going to look like. We don't know if there's
Speaker 1: going to be any type of OTAs or many much
Speaker 1: much of a mini camp, to be honest with it,
Speaker 1: and then we don't know what the season's going to
Speaker 1: be like. Plus he's under a new coach, he has
Speaker 1: a new system to learn. And the other thing is
Speaker 1: is the Cowboys want a five year deal. From what
Speaker 1: I understand, Dak wants a four. The numbers somewhere in
Speaker 1: the low thirty millions. I think that's a fair number.
Speaker 1: Dak rolls the dice at thirty one four and says, hey,
Speaker 1: look I may take a chance and be franchise. They
Speaker 1: can franchise him again, I think next year at thirty eight.
Speaker 1: But they don't really know what they have at this point.
Speaker 1: And part of it is the economics stand in the game.
Speaker 1: You know, salary cap is based upon revenue. If the Redskins,
Speaker 1: if the Washington franchise, or all the franchises don't make
Speaker 1: the money they think, and it's estimated to be somewhere
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood of one hundred million dollars less per franchise,
Speaker 1: you're talking three points somehow billion dollars. And now what's
Speaker 1: the cap going to be next year? We've seen the
Speaker 1: cap continue to go up and up and up, but
Speaker 1: in this environment, there isn't a guarantee of anything. But
Speaker 1: do you think franchise I think Black has a chance.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Dak really has a chance to
Speaker 1: do something special because, and I've always believed this, the
Speaker 1: quarterback is the single most dependent player on the field.
Speaker 1: I mean, you just have to depend on so many
Speaker 1: different things. Guys catching the ball, defense is stopping people,
Speaker 1: kicks being made, blocks being made. You you're part of it,
Speaker 1: really is just a part. And he's got some really good,
Speaker 1: tremendous pieces on the offensive side with him, and like
Speaker 1: I said, for him, if he should sign a five
Speaker 1: year contract, because he's never going to see the fifth
Speaker 1: year anyway. You know, if he does what he expects
Speaker 1: to do and what the cow Boys want him to do,
Speaker 1: he may not even see the He may not even
Speaker 1: see year four before he gets another deal on top
Speaker 1: of it. So I don't know what I'm not I
Speaker 1: don't know what the hang up is. I know that
Speaker 1: the offer sounds, you know, like Jerry is being fair
Speaker 1: and equitable with them, and you know, I wish him
Speaker 1: all the luck in the world going out there. And
Speaker 1: if you're going to roll the dice, you know, go
Speaker 1: make him pay. We're starting to see I guess it's
Speaker 1: a trend now, and maybe it was there, but it
Speaker 1: was in the embryonic stages. And that is the quarterback
Speaker 1: who can run, put pressure on you but also be
Speaker 1: able to throw the deep ball. And Lamar Jackson it
Speaker 1: feels like his blueprint is I can put pressure on
Speaker 1: you on the edges, and if you bite on me running,
Speaker 1: I can throw the deep ball and try to get
Speaker 1: some home runs. Here is the future of the NFL.
Speaker 1: The style of Patrick Mahomes, or of Lamar Jackson or
Speaker 1: someone else. I think somewhat of a combination, you know,
Speaker 1: Patrick isn't in that class when it comes to running
Speaker 1: like Lamar does, or even Kyler Murray out in Arizona.
Speaker 1: There's another one who has uses his legs a lot.
Speaker 1: Cam Newton found out that if you use your legs
Speaker 1: a lot and you can't throw the ball out of
Speaker 1: the pocket, it'll wear you down in a hurry and
Speaker 1: beat you up. I think that you still have to
Speaker 1: be able to operate out of the pocket, especially with
Speaker 1: the gun the way it is now and the spread
Speaker 1: offenses that we're running, you still have to be able
Speaker 1: to do that on a consistent basis, because at this
Speaker 1: level you can't run around and take the pounding over
Speaker 1: a year after year after year and expect to be
Speaker 1: able to play a long time. I think Lamar is
Speaker 1: a very unique individual. Of course, an MVP of the league.
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is another one who has the ability to escape.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo is another one who has that ability to
Speaker 1: be able to move around. But I still believe foundationally
Speaker 1: you have to be able to operate out of the pocket.
Speaker 1: Look at the guys that have won the championships, Peyton Manning,
Speaker 1: even Aaron Rodgers dand Aaron has the ability to move,
Speaker 1: but we don't see him do it a lot. Of course,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady has six championships. So when you start to
Speaker 1: put together look at the way the offenses are constructed.
Speaker 1: You have to be able to start and operate out
Speaker 1: of the pocket. And then, oh, by the way, if
Speaker 1: you need to put pressure on people. I will say
Speaker 1: this about Lamar Lamar. I thought improved tremendously last year
Speaker 1: throwing the football down the field. And the thing that
Speaker 1: his skills and Kyler Murray's in particular present is that
Speaker 1: a defense can't just put their ears back and come
Speaker 1: after him because you can't give them escape lanes. You
Speaker 1: want to be able to keep him in the pocket,
Speaker 1: especially Kyler at his size. You want to make him
Speaker 1: throw from the forest. You want to make him throw
Speaker 1: through the trees, because he's not gonna be able to
Speaker 1: see a lot of things down the field. I know,
Speaker 1: as a six foot guy myself that when I played,
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's difficult. You're really not You're throwing
Speaker 1: in between lanes, you're not throwing over people. But also
Speaker 1: you didn't get the credit, and maybe there weren't enough
Speaker 1: people after you. You know, Drew Breese gets a lot
Speaker 1: of credit because Drew Brees at his size. Hey, you
Speaker 1: don't have to be six four. You were six foot.
Speaker 1: You were the league MVP, but it felt like you
Speaker 1: were an anomaly and people weren't going to go, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's like Russell Wilson. You know, Russell Wilson I think
Speaker 1: got an opportunity because of Drew Brees. But you know
Speaker 1: you were prior, your predecessor to Drew Brees as far
Speaker 1: as being successful and not being six four like Dan
Speaker 1: Marino or John Elway. Well there were you know, there
Speaker 1: were other guys before me, like Bob Greasy was one.
Speaker 1: I think Roger Staubach wasn't the tallest of all, maybe
Speaker 1: a couple inches taller than I. But the game has
Speaker 1: evolved in so many different ways, from rules, from the
Speaker 1: wide open nature of it, from the different positions we
Speaker 1: used to you went, we went through this with wide receivers.
Speaker 1: We want we want the tall guy so we can
Speaker 1: throw the ball in a general area and let him
Speaker 1: make a play. Then we wanted the quick one to
Speaker 1: be able to get down the field. Then we wanted
Speaker 1: the fast one, and it football does that, it has
Speaker 1: its ebbs and flows. We want the big corner because
Speaker 1: we want to play cover two. Now we want the
Speaker 1: little corner because we're going to go man demand and
Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. Now I think we're leaning more
Speaker 1: and more towards the fact that we want somebody with mobility.
Speaker 1: But again, Drew Brees throws out of the pocket all
Speaker 1: the time. Drew's not going to run away from anybody.
Speaker 1: Eline never ran away from anybody in New York. So,
Speaker 1: but there aren't a lot of them coming out of college, Dan.
Speaker 1: That's the thing is the college game is a little
Speaker 1: bit different than ours because, for example, you take guys
Speaker 1: to throw bubble screens all the time. Take a university,
Speaker 1: it throws bubble screens. O house state. Okay, you can
Speaker 1: have thirty five, forty fifty touchdown passes and have and
Speaker 1: fifteen of them are going to be because somebody made
Speaker 1: somebody miss and ran a lot of yards. So it's
Speaker 1: the concepts of the offenses that the kids are coming
Speaker 1: out of, it's the size of the kids, it's their athleticism.
Speaker 1: These are all things you have to take into consideration.
Speaker 1: Plus again, I don't know what football is going to
Speaker 1: look like in two thousand and twenty one, more or
Speaker 1: less twenty But I do know that the rookies are
Speaker 1: behind going to be behind the eight ball here. You've
Speaker 1: got the young free agents, You've got new coaches that
Speaker 1: are trying instill systems. All these things are done by
Speaker 1: as you and I talk now on Zoom. Joe has
Speaker 1: a bookshelf behind him and he's only got four books
Speaker 1: in the bookshelf, and they're all the same book that
Speaker 1: Joe just put out. It's it's Joe's book in There's
Speaker 1: you got five books there, Joe. Joe's got his book
Speaker 1: there and how to be a Champion. Six Timeless Keys
Speaker 1: to Success, great tan, great hair, you got it all. Joe,
Speaker 1: you look like a successor. Thing is you're looking You're
Speaker 1: looking good. Yeah. Yeah, it's great to talk to you
Speaker 1: as always, Joe, Thank you. Thanks, great to catch up
Speaker 1: with you. Take care of yourself. Matt's Joe thiseman, We'll
Speaker 1: be back close up shop here on The Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 1: what's in store tomorrow? Also this day in sports history,
Speaker 1: most different starting quarterbacks since nineteen eighty six Number one
Speaker 1: on that list. You're Cleveland Browns forty different starting quarterbacks
Speaker 1: since nineteen eighty six. The Bears thirty eight different starting quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: They're about to add to that the Arizona Cardinals thirty six,
Speaker 1: and then the Washington Redskins with thirty four different starting quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Seems to be a common thread in there. Those franchises
Speaker 1: haven't been that good. Arizona had its brief run with
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner. Yes, McLevin. Did the Browns even go away
Speaker 1: for a few years? And that did? They take six
Speaker 1: years off between ninety five and I don't how long
Speaker 1: were they gone from Cleveland? I forget, Yeah, how many years?
Speaker 1: We know? Who knows. Let's just for the our information guy.
Speaker 1: He's not a stats guy. He's not our information guy.
Speaker 1: We've emboldened him. Now every three minutes, there's a gem
Speaker 1: coming through. Oh, he just sent me one. Here's Ethan,
Speaker 1: our research analysts. Let's see better be good. Every precedent
Speaker 1: in US sports, is that a franchise changing its name
Speaker 1: or location keeps all the records. So Earl Campbell is
Speaker 1: still the career leader in rushing touchdowns for the Oilers
Speaker 1: Titans franchise. No, that's okay, Yeah, that's kind of that's
Speaker 1: not that impressive. Yes, I thought when Joe Tisman said that,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're obviously records are not going to change
Speaker 1: for this. I thought that. No, I can't believe he
Speaker 1: bought that up. Yeah, you're not changing locations, you're just
Speaker 1: changing names. I think Joe was hopeful that it would
Speaker 1: change and that four records will be permanent. With the
Speaker 1: Washington Well, I think he only threw for twenty five
Speaker 1: thousand yards in his career, and I think he's still
Speaker 1: the career passing leader for the Washington Redskins with twenty
Speaker 1: five thousand. I think that's why Joe asked. Right, Ethan
Speaker 1: did respond to the Browns hiatus. It was a three
Speaker 1: years from nineteen ninety six to nineteen ninety eight. Thank you, Ethan,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Murphy, and Georgia joins us. Hey, Murph, what
Speaker 1: do you have for me today? How are you doing?
Speaker 1: Good morning, Good morning, listen. I was wondering about concerning Dallas. Okay,
Speaker 1: they had a running back before Elliott that was real good,
Speaker 1: and Jones said, Owen plied that anybody can run behind
Speaker 1: that line. Do you think it's the same thing that
Speaker 1: quarterback in Dallas that anybody can a mediocre quarterback could
Speaker 1: win them considering everything they have. Well, I think it
Speaker 1: helps a mediocre quarterback that you have those weapons there.
Speaker 1: Now they had Marian Barber, but you might be talking
Speaker 1: DeMarco Murray. Wasn't he in Dallas as well? And I
Speaker 1: do believe this woe. I wouldn't have paid Zekiel Elliott
Speaker 1: because you've already gotten the best years. I don't think
Speaker 1: he comes close to what he's done before. And now
Speaker 1: you're putting more more on Dak. Prescott's played more pressure
Speaker 1: on him that it's now become a quarterback offense, not
Speaker 1: a running back offense. Do I think Andy Dalton could
Speaker 1: put up similar numbers with the Cowboys? I do, I do,
Speaker 1: But I do think Dak has an extra dimension there.
Speaker 1: He has a higher ceiling at his age. We know
Speaker 1: what Andy Dalton is and you know who he's been
Speaker 1: and he was a quality quarterback. Now you can't deny
Speaker 1: the run that they had and he played well. But
Speaker 1: we love potential, we love the unknown, and Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: still has the unknown, Deshaun Watson, the unknown, Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: the unknown, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes. It's when you know,
Speaker 1: it's like the Bears know what they have in Mitchell Trubisky.
Speaker 1: They probably have seen his best. There's no real mystery there,
Speaker 1: the mystique of the potential. You know, Jameis Winston still
Speaker 1: has that. Marcus Mariota doesn't have that, but Jamis Winston
Speaker 1: has a little bit of that. Baker Mayfield has a
Speaker 1: little bit of that. Daniel Jones has shown glimpses of
Speaker 1: the potential there, and that's what we fall in love with.
Speaker 1: Jeff and Detroit. Jeff's been holding since yesterday, I think,
Speaker 1: Jeff welcome. Yeah, you know what, just a quick comment.
Speaker 1: I just find it funny that you guys, out of
Speaker 1: all days, bring this Etherian statistician guy out on Tommy
Speaker 1: Ramo Dak Prescott day. I'm just trying to figure out
Speaker 1: is mclovin, Tommy Romo and that Prescott? Wow? Jeff, Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: my advice to mclovin, don't call us bro whoa. How
Speaker 1: about Jeff cracking himself up? You know, maybe if mclovin
Speaker 1: takes some time off being with the family, Ethan could
Speaker 1: stop in. Seems like he's a good team player, offering
Speaker 1: some stats. Kind of a me guy though, Oh you
Speaker 1: thinking it's all about himself? Yeah, real fun standing around
Speaker 1: the water cooler hearing about the stats from the AFL. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that won't get old. You know what it gets old?
Speaker 1: What gets old is when I asked for some information
Speaker 1: and I don't get any information from you. We'd like
Speaker 1: to keep you guessing. We're building suspense. Yeah, yeah, we
Speaker 1: can get you information. We provide you all the information
Speaker 1: we think you need. Yeah, or slightly inaccurate information. And
Speaker 1: you do a great job in that. You know, department,
Speaker 1: You're irreplaceable when it when it comes to giving this
Speaker 1: information or no informational you're replaceable. Like the anniversary of
Speaker 1: Adam Sandler's first episode, I don't know why we have
Speaker 1: to do that, Toddler deflect deflect. By the way, Todd
Speaker 1: is going to spring for pizza. How about that? That's crazy, Tom,
Speaker 1: I know, I think we're gonna do the pizza challenge
Speaker 1: that I did over my vacation. I don't know how
Speaker 1: gonna peel the card out of the wallet. Cobb still
Speaker 1: got that sticker on that. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: did you What did you learn today? Todd Statsky, Ethan
Speaker 1: make you a Dan. That's especially my friend here and
Speaker 1: mclovin in the back row. Look bad, mcloven. What did
Speaker 1: you learn? Nobody likes to know it all? Nobody likes
Speaker 1: it all. Seaton O'Connor. Ethan's also seen a great white shark.
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