WEBVTT - 2023 Week 7 Preview

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<v Speaker 1>They around the NFL podcast He's done locking up the.

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<v Speaker 2>Charger from the Chris Wesling podcast studio.

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<v Speaker 3>It's around the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Dan hansis got heroes here, Greg Rosenthal

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<v Speaker 2>and Mark Sessler. Yeah, I would say in our locks

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<v Speaker 2>competition that locking up the Chargers is just asking for trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether you're a fan or enjoy their brand of football,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not. It's not predictable on any.

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<v Speaker 4>Level, right, But you know, I appreciate what Jason's attempting

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<v Speaker 4>to do there Jason Zumwelt, But like the actual facts

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<v Speaker 4>are that I promised to never lock them again this season.

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<v Speaker 3>If Greg I would have, I would happily do it.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll be curious see if anyone dares lock against them

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<v Speaker 5>this week. I feel like that's that's the most Uh,

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<v Speaker 5>that's the biggest point spread you could lock.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll see interesting pick against just.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe when he's playing Patrick Mahomes they would, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>been a tough matchup for him. Yes, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if another week will tie it. Perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure. I don't remember how it works, but

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<v Speaker 2>there won't be another week that has more teams unbuy

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<v Speaker 2>than a Week seven. Cincinnati, Dallas, Tennessee Jets, Carolina, Houston

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<v Speaker 2>all off this week, so we have a fewer games

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<v Speaker 2>to get to.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to just throw a couple things out there.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, injuries, you're kind of going through the game,

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<v Speaker 2>you're thinking about what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>In the league right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Injuries feel like and I know injuries are always a

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<v Speaker 2>big part of our league, but I counted up eight teams,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a quarter of the league have a major injury

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<v Speaker 2>issue at the quarterback position.

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<v Speaker 3>Which it's early for that.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing worse than dealing with an injury at the

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback position. It can kind of take down a whole operation.

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<v Speaker 2>In some cases it has. There are also as we

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<v Speaker 2>enter Week seven boys, fifteen teams. Was my eldest son,

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<v Speaker 2>Jack hopped into bed with me this morning and I

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<v Speaker 2>was looking at the standings and I was just going

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<v Speaker 2>through it all with him, and then he want to

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<v Speaker 2>see like everything.

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<v Speaker 3>So, oh, you could do that. The Deeper Metrics itemized it.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you could call it that, and then it

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<v Speaker 2>was the entire league one through thirty two, and then

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<v Speaker 2>it caught my eye. There are fifteen teams, nearly half

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<v Speaker 2>the league that are either three and two, three and

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<v Speaker 2>three or two and three, So parody is as strong

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<v Speaker 2>as ever. Things are wide open, and you throw in

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<v Speaker 2>the injuries to the all over the league, including out

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<v Speaker 2>the quarterback position, it's a wide open season.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's exactly what the NFL wants the mission accomplished

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<v Speaker 4>on the battle.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I guess it's what we want. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say last year the one thing, but because

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<v Speaker 4>I always feel like, oh, there's way more injuries this year,

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<v Speaker 4>and then you if you dig down, it's like one

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<v Speaker 4>percent more. But like last year, and you did this

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<v Speaker 4>with QB Index with the end you have to rank

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<v Speaker 4>every quarterback that appeared in a game, and they were

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<v Speaker 4>like forty eight of them. So it's like, I think

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<v Speaker 4>we're on pace to hit that again. Basically we're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>we're gonna have more.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, whether the data backs up that there are more

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<v Speaker 2>injuries this year, I don't know, it doesn't really matter.

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<v Speaker 2>It's more just like it's just a reminder of how

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<v Speaker 2>that is such a major factor in these seasons.

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<v Speaker 3>You could go into a season feeling good about your.

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<v Speaker 2>Roster, but it is the depth of your roster that

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<v Speaker 2>really ultimately at least.

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<v Speaker 4>It's also the week where I mean, and I've been

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<v Speaker 4>barely tracking the fantasy league. I mean then, but there's

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of squawking about, like a bunch of teams

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<v Speaker 4>on buys and a bunch of injuries already, You've got

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<v Speaker 4>like Joe Fabeats starting at running back at.

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<v Speaker 2>This I'm gonna this is my favorite week of the year,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, So we got my my favorite team

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<v Speaker 2>on buy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm having a totally lost fantasy year.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm already out of contention essentially, which thinks, but also

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<v Speaker 2>there's a freedom to that. There is, So I got

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<v Speaker 2>there no jets to worry about. I got no fantasy

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<v Speaker 2>like thing to like obsess over. Just watch them football

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<v Speaker 2>like the old days, like a real American, like.

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<v Speaker 5>A true American, and then get my music now, and

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<v Speaker 5>then go into a studio and honk about it for

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<v Speaker 5>ninety minutes on Sunday night.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't wait.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Yeah, these teams and coaches take alcoholics.

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<v Speaker 3>They want to make a week.

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<v Speaker 5>How there are six teams on buying week thirteen deep

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<v Speaker 5>into the year, so that's'll be a nice little hmm

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<v Speaker 5>aniebye for us.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 2>On Wednesday's show, in which we forked multiple teams, we

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<v Speaker 2>previewed the Island games, the primetime games. Today, oh till

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<v Speaker 2>later tonight, we're gonna have the recap of Thursday night football.

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<v Speaker 5>Remind me of the game, Greg, it's Jack Saints. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 5>Trevor Lawrence plays.

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<v Speaker 2>Game time decision trending towards as we record this, and

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<v Speaker 2>Greg will be on that call with a special guest.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's coming up later tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's dig in now to the rest of the games,

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<v Speaker 2>and the first overall pick of the week, presented by

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<v Speaker 2>DraftKings does go to Greg Rosenthal.

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<v Speaker 3>Not Greg Rosenstein.

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<v Speaker 4>No, No Bolt the one, the only I got lucky again.

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<v Speaker 3>Greg Rosenthal. No, there are.

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<v Speaker 4>More, you know what with there, I might be the

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<v Speaker 4>only one with triple G, only one on the planet.

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<v Speaker 4>I would guarantee you that's not the case.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I've googled, I don't know. It's possible.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not another Dan Hansis. I can tell you that there.

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<v Speaker 4>Is a Mark Cecil with a sn and I think

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<v Speaker 4>he's like a chef on the East Coast.

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<v Speaker 3>Kill him. Yeah, he's got to go, he must go.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm taking Lions Ravens. Let's you know, remove Donner dram

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<v Speaker 5>out here.

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<v Speaker 3>What a game.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, we already talked one of the games of

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<v Speaker 5>the year's Dolphins Eagles. But there's two games this week, Dan,

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<v Speaker 5>involving two teams ranked in the top seven DVOA on

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<v Speaker 5>the season, and that's your number two Detroit Lions right

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<v Speaker 5>now and your number four Baltimore Ravens. So that's a

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<v Speaker 5>little numerical support to the feeling that I've had that

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<v Speaker 5>this Ravens team is better than the dumb mistakes that

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<v Speaker 5>they made. That underlying foundation in terms of how tough

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<v Speaker 5>they are on both sides of the ball, how much

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<v Speaker 5>they move the ball, and how well they've done preventing

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<v Speaker 5>other teams to move the ball is the profile of

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<v Speaker 5>a really good team. And it's to show me something

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<v Speaker 5>game for both teams, kind of like who's tougher?

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<v Speaker 3>That's how I start.

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<v Speaker 5>Both of these teams have been able to run the

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<v Speaker 5>ball at various points, but not all the time, and

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<v Speaker 5>I think they both really want to.

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<v Speaker 3>So who's going to be tougher? Upfront?

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<v Speaker 4>I love the idea of like Rokwan Smith, who is

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<v Speaker 4>a big friend of our show, for various reasons dating

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<v Speaker 4>back to last season and Patrick Queen end of the show.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, he was the subject of a much debated

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<v Speaker 5>emergency podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeh, but he's been like that trade, which you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like the Bears gave up, gave.

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<v Speaker 3>Up on him, like the superstar.

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<v Speaker 4>He's been great for them and I think he's made

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<v Speaker 4>Patrick Queen better and and their defense are.

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<v Speaker 3>Good a lot, a little bit of a flash playing focus.

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<v Speaker 4>I know in the end the emergency podcast looks like

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<v Speaker 4>he should be in the Defensive Player of the Year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it was. It was pressing, and like they've they've been

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<v Speaker 4>good versus the past as well, and it's like, I

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<v Speaker 4>I like this Lion's passing game. I feel like there's

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<v Speaker 4>been these periods with Jared Goff where it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>he fits in the offense, but it's not because of

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<v Speaker 4>Jared Goff. And it's like Jared Goff's making some plays

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<v Speaker 4>because he's got some talent around him.

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<v Speaker 3>And then they got a great offensive lines.

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<v Speaker 4>So now I'm like Jared Goff is like actually on

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<v Speaker 4>a week two week basis.

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<v Speaker 3>Playing the best football of his entire career and.

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<v Speaker 4>Feels like he's PFF's number one quarterback, very similar to

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<v Speaker 4>twenty eighteen at this point in the season, when he

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<v Speaker 4>was a legit MVP candidate.

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<v Speaker 2>We all owe Jared goffin apology because I can't remember

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<v Speaker 2>another player that reached the heights that he did in

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<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles that was ever written off or thought of

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<v Speaker 2>more as an afterthought.

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<v Speaker 3>Go check the tape of this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe one of us was into it, but it all

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<v Speaker 2>seemed like that's Stafford trade. He was the guy that

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<v Speaker 2>went back to make the money work. He was the

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<v Speaker 2>guy that would simply serve as the bridge till the Lions,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, hit the reboot the quarterback position, and instead

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<v Speaker 2>he's become a real obvious difference maker. Now does that

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<v Speaker 2>mean that he can't be flummis that he can't fail

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<v Speaker 2>in a big spot if you cook him up and

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<v Speaker 2>put him in a comfortable spot. Of course, that can happen.

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<v Speaker 2>It just hasn't really happened very often in Detroit.

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<v Speaker 5>And this is one week where it could. Because I'm

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<v Speaker 5>really impressed with Mike McDonald. I give John Harbaugh a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of credit for this hire that he made to

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<v Speaker 5>replay McDonald, Don Wink, Martindale. Harbor has been really good

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<v Speaker 5>at hires in general. I would say that's one of

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<v Speaker 5>his strengths as a coach. And if anyone can make

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<v Speaker 5>Jared Goff hold the ball a little longer and can

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<v Speaker 5>cook him up with some pressures, I think it's Mike

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<v Speaker 5>McDonald in this Ravens defense. Now, they do have some injuries.

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<v Speaker 5>Marcus Williams we saw go right past us in London

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<v Speaker 5>with that hamstring injury. I don't think he's gonna play

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<v Speaker 5>in this game. They don't have a great pass rush,

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<v Speaker 5>which is surprising for such a good defense, but they

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<v Speaker 5>do like to cook you up a little bit with

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<v Speaker 5>their pressure.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they use like their secondary and their pressure

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<v Speaker 3>a lot too.

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<v Speaker 4>They have eleven different players with a sack that's no team,

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<v Speaker 4>No team can touch that. I you know, I think

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<v Speaker 4>though with Detroit with no David Montgomery, Jamiir Gibbs is

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<v Speaker 4>still banged up. It sounds like he could potentially play,

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<v Speaker 4>but even like Craig Reynolds, their number three guy, it

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<v Speaker 4>didn't practice on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see about I.

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<v Speaker 5>Think it's a Jamiir Gibbs game. I think they're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>need some time for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know what, let's have a big Jamiir

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<v Speaker 2>Gibbs game because they drafted him to be an immediate

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<v Speaker 2>impact player and let's see if he's healthy enough to

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<v Speaker 2>do so.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost talked about the top of the show. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of quarterback injuries. Almost every team we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about has a position group that's kind of under siege.

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<v Speaker 2>For the Lions, it is that running back room with injuries.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that is a good game, Greg, It's a great game.

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<v Speaker 5>They're three point favorites, by the way, the Baltimore Ravens

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<v Speaker 5>in this game, and they need.

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<v Speaker 2>That feels that seems like a little overly respectful, but.

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<v Speaker 5>It's basically saying two even ish teams. I think that's

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<v Speaker 5>that's right. But you Baltimore feels like, let's pick it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>let's pick it.

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<v Speaker 3>I like the Lions. I'm taking Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like Detroit. I think Ravens and we were

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<v Speaker 2>we saw it up close in London. They're red zone

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<v Speaker 2>issues that jump out to me. And I think the

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<v Speaker 2>Lions are going to continue to move the ball and

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<v Speaker 2>put up points. Are the Ravens or the Ravens able

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<v Speaker 2>to do that and match them? If this game starts

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<v Speaker 2>turning into maybe not a shootout, but gets into the twenties.

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<v Speaker 4>I came really close to locking the Lions. I think

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<v Speaker 4>that this is the reason all this game is. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't remember a time in my life when Detroit Baltimore

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<v Speaker 4>was something that was a source of intrigue for me,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's completely that.

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<v Speaker 5>It's very intriguing. I don't want to beat a you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the same drum every week. But man, we just need

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<v Speaker 5>Bateman in Beckham to make plays for them, because I

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<v Speaker 5>think that's where the mismatch could be. Detroit's been sneaky,

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<v Speaker 5>very banged up in their secondary and they should be

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<v Speaker 5>able to win some of those one on ones on

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<v Speaker 5>the outside, but they haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's move on. This is an easy one.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe this could have easily been the first overall pick.

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<v Speaker 2>The Los Angeles Chargers traveling to Arrowhead to face the

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas City Chiefs. Chiefs are laying five and a half

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<v Speaker 2>points here. By the way, the over under that Lion's

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<v Speaker 2>Ravens game forty three. That feels alright to me forty

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<v Speaker 2>three here it's forty eight. And we talked about it

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<v Speaker 2>on the show Wednesday. Mikole Hardman joins the Chiefs or

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<v Speaker 2>rejoins the Chiefs in a trade from the Jets. You

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<v Speaker 2>assume this is a guy that is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to join the fray and be a part of

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<v Speaker 2>this offense rather quickly. And while he is not a

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<v Speaker 2>difference maker, he was a real piece of that team

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<v Speaker 2>when he was there, and they need somebody. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's the thing that's gonna jump out to me here,

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<v Speaker 2>and we can get into the Charger side of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and how much Herbert struggled on Monday night and the

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<v Speaker 2>disappointment of that game. But the Chiefs, for me, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the biggest stories in the league is in the

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<v Speaker 2>second half of the regular season, because Kansas City is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be alright, They're going to go thirteen and four,

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<v Speaker 2>twelve and five or fourteen and three, and they're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be there. But are they going to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>identify either on the roster now or at the trade deadline,

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<v Speaker 2>that missing piece on their offense, and in a game

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<v Speaker 2>with against an elite passer like Herbert, will they be

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<v Speaker 2>able to get into.

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<v Speaker 3>A shootout and win if it comes to that.

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<v Speaker 5>I think they're not ready for that now. But I

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<v Speaker 5>think this is a perfect test because we've just seen

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<v Speaker 5>this matchup so many times in the Brank's Daily era,

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<v Speaker 5>and so we know what a Chief's offense looks like

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<v Speaker 5>against this Chargers defense. And I know the Chargers defense

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<v Speaker 5>came out of the by with a relatively promising performance

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<v Speaker 5>against Dallas, couldn't get the stops when they really needed it,

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<v Speaker 5>and you took a fourth down stop early in the

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<v Speaker 5>game that took some points off the board. And I

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<v Speaker 5>hesitate to say that, like, ooh, the Chargers defense is

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<v Speaker 5>really making some big improvements. The old Chargers Chiefs offense

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<v Speaker 5>rather Dan like, would get thirty two points in this

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<v Speaker 5>matchup every single time, every single time. And so if

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<v Speaker 5>they are stuck in a low scoring game, and I

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<v Speaker 5>kind of expect they will be, then we know it's

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<v Speaker 5>absolutely different. They're gonna have to start taking some guys

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<v Speaker 5>out of the lineup, whether it's Val the Scantling or

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<v Speaker 5>sky Moore.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone's got to get taken out. Yeah, I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Dan yesterday thought, well, Michael Hardman, fine, but

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<v Speaker 4>like you kind of would want the Chiefs to go

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<v Speaker 4>source and find someone a little bit more juicy, and

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<v Speaker 4>they didn't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. The trade to me feels but they do.

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<v Speaker 3>But that this is not going to solve their problems.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm four.

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<v Speaker 4>This is their defense. I mean, that's like the Chiefs defense,

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<v Speaker 4>which is, you know, second fewest yards per game, and

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<v Speaker 4>like there's just consistency. They've had the same coaching staff

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<v Speaker 4>there for so long, and like they've got nine they've

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<v Speaker 4>been given nine days rest off to that kind of

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<v Speaker 4>wacky game against the Broncos, right, I kind of felt

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<v Speaker 4>like the Chiefs were just sort of screwing around during

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<v Speaker 4>part of that game, just sort of throwing things at

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<v Speaker 4>the no.

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<v Speaker 5>I think they were, I hear what you're saying. They

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<v Speaker 5>throw a lot of trick plays and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's kind of like because their normal stuff doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they are working through that.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's like, I think their defense is one of

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<v Speaker 4>the reasons they're allowed to do that without getting caught

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<v Speaker 4>into tight losses.

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<v Speaker 5>You mentioned the rest tough break here for the Chargers.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, this is a legitimate gripe that the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 5>get five extra days rest.

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<v Speaker 3>In the in the biggest road division games, in these.

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<v Speaker 2>Two teams especially right, Yeah, there are some insane stat

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<v Speaker 2>about that that.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see. Let me see if I can find it.

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<v Speaker 3>It is.

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<v Speaker 2>Andy Reid with four plus days of rest advantage as

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<v Speaker 2>head coach in his career twenty seven and three.

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<v Speaker 4>That just makes me like, imagine him like taking long,

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<v Speaker 4>comfortable naps.

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<v Speaker 2>And some of this is he's had great head coach

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<v Speaker 2>and has had great teams, but plus thirty three turnover

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<v Speaker 2>differential average final score essentially twenty six to sixteen. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so LA's against it a little bit right now, Greg,

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<v Speaker 2>What did you take from the Herbert performance on Monday night?

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<v Speaker 5>I thought people got a little carried away wanting to

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<v Speaker 5>like show hey for once, it was justin Herbert's fault.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought he played a pretty good three quarters. Certainly

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<v Speaker 5>didn't end that game well really, I thought he missed

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of threat. He missed plenty of throws, but

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<v Speaker 5>he made plenty of throws too.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know like.

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<v Speaker 5>Why the glove, on the offhand would make that big

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<v Speaker 5>of a difference inaccuracy. I'm not smart enough to know that,

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<v Speaker 5>so I don't really that doesn't make sense to me

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<v Speaker 5>as the reason why.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's saying that? Well, just like that.

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<v Speaker 5>That his performance was so odd off accuracy wise, and

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<v Speaker 5>for the first time, he's playing with this broken finger

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<v Speaker 5>and he's wearing a glove, which he he absolutely never does.

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<v Speaker 5>It doesn't seem like that's the reason why, because he

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<v Speaker 5>also made a lot of really good throws in that game.

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<v Speaker 5>The thing that is Herbert's superpower, though, I think makes

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<v Speaker 5>them look worse in games like that, which is like

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<v Speaker 5>he refuses to take a sack. So in a game

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<v Speaker 5>where he was heated up, he was pressured on almost

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<v Speaker 5>fifty percent of his passes. That's the most in any

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<v Speaker 5>Chargers game this year. It's like that would lead the

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<v Speaker 5>league by far if that was consistent. You know, getting

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<v Speaker 5>pressured that much, he just gets rid of the ball

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<v Speaker 5>and so he's having to make quick decisions. He refuses

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<v Speaker 5>to take a sack, and it led to a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of bad throws, but they were also as you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 5>just like four or five throws he missed.

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<v Speaker 3>Ones that usually.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was I would imagine he was very frustrated

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<v Speaker 2>with his performance there.

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<v Speaker 5>I give this Chiefs linebacker group a lot of credit.

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<v Speaker 3>I really like them.

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<v Speaker 5>Nick Bolton, Drew Tranquil when he's out there, Willie Gate like,

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's been a little bit of their secret sauce.

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<v Speaker 5>They're pretty good at every level of their defense. You

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<v Speaker 5>mentioned the stats like they were legit top ten defense.

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<v Speaker 5>So this is a different Chiefs defense than the charge.

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<v Speaker 3>Those guys have been. They generate big takeaway right, Bolton

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<v Speaker 3>and Tranquiled, it's like God passing downs. I really liked them.

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<v Speaker 2>The other guy that's jumped out to me with the

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<v Speaker 2>Chiefs again, that's the offense.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm really interested in here.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Isaiah Pachenko.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a tough name for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Check he's been good and sat it right. He has

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<v Speaker 2>not been He has not been the problem for them.

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<v Speaker 2>But again they need that. They need somebody else and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you we'll see something this week. Khalil Mack, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, has seven sacks this year. Really good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, I mean one.

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<v Speaker 4>I went down that road with Shaq Barrett though that

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<v Speaker 4>one time, and I got, you know, totally fried with

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<v Speaker 4>my instant analysis on that situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Your analysis being that he will that good?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it was that all whenever you get these guys

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<v Speaker 4>that have this game where like suddenly you play at

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<v Speaker 4>a different, like human level, and then you I typically

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<v Speaker 4>think you end up like three sacks.

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<v Speaker 5>You thought he would be a bad free agent signing. No,

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<v Speaker 5>I believe it was your thing. And then he was

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<v Speaker 5>kind of the key to a Super Bowl champion.

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<v Speaker 4>That's tilting the accuracy completely.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe he was seen as a key difference maker.

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't buy these. It's these one game explosions.

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<v Speaker 3>You brought it up. That's fair. Why did I do that?

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<v Speaker 3>All Right? The third overall pick goes to Mark and alright, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's easy for me.

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<v Speaker 4>I probably would have taken this at number two and

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<v Speaker 4>been like verbally fried by the group. But I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>go Browns at cults what I think it's a fair coming.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll start here.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, nobody is nobody's gonna fry you, huh for taking

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<v Speaker 2>the Browns.

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<v Speaker 3>This is good. Number three? Now, Mark, this is a

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<v Speaker 3>safe Oh yeah, it's great. No one's gonna judge you.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you know what, but your favorite quarterback plays for

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<v Speaker 5>the other team though, you know, back in the day

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<v Speaker 5>he was your I did have Ashew thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But Minshew.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, if they get the version of Gardner Minshew

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<v Speaker 4>they got last week, which was what three picks in

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<v Speaker 4>a strip sack and Cleveland is not actually for out

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<v Speaker 4>good their defense has been. They have not been generating takeaways.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they have four on the year, which is

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<v Speaker 4>a little surprising for how.

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<v Speaker 3>Good they've been.

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<v Speaker 4>But Mint that version of Minshew, It's like, I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like Minshew can like he'll give you two or three

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<v Speaker 4>games where he's a little spicy, then the floor falls out.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember ever seeing him that bad.

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<v Speaker 4>No, he looked awful, and that was the Jaguars defense

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<v Speaker 4>being better than we've expected them to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Him. He made a lot of bad decisions, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>just terrible.

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<v Speaker 5>It's almost like he was like, I'm gonna show the

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<v Speaker 5>Jaguars what they're missing out and then he just oh.

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<v Speaker 3>They're happy.

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<v Speaker 4>They seem happy to have moved on to a different

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<v Speaker 4>quarterback of potential Hall of Famer down the road. I

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<v Speaker 4>love this game for Cleveland as long as they get

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<v Speaker 4>it depends. I think for me, what happens a quarterback,

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<v Speaker 4>there's been some I think just the whole of Shawn

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<v Speaker 4>Watson's situation, it's been really weird. Well is it the

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<v Speaker 4>Mark Mark Cooper news? No, okay, good, but that maybe

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<v Speaker 4>co Mary Cooper said he will He's going to practice today.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Shawn Watson UH currently dealing with of a

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<v Speaker 2>mystery injury later now revealed as a micro tear of

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<v Speaker 2>the rotator cuff, and rap Sheet reported in the past

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<v Speaker 2>hour that Watson is practicing today Thursday, for the first

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<v Speaker 2>time in a while. Per oc Alex Van Help, confirming

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<v Speaker 2>a report from Amari Cooper.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Mark Cooper, like, I kind of appreciate a player coming.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it a teammates, don't know, he's just giving us

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<v Speaker 4>information like first and information about his teammate.

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<v Speaker 3>Ahh, I got a big scoop. Yeah, gets shipped right

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<v Speaker 3>into an immediate career. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>For me, it's like they this is a still a

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<v Speaker 4>Browns offense that I think is quite suspicious. Uh, they

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<v Speaker 4>you don't have Nick Chubb. Jerome Ford helped out a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Last week. They survived with PJ.

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<v Speaker 4>Walker playing a really bad game at quarterback. Not a

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<v Speaker 4>bad spot if to Sean Watson plays, He's not doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>sound healthy to me. But if he plays, like, how

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<v Speaker 4>about show up for once? Show up for once, because

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<v Speaker 4>I think the defense can absolutely just take care of it.

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<v Speaker 3>A Colts offense that like with Jonathan Taylor, like he

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<v Speaker 3>needs to show up at some point.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, Watson had his best game I think as a

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<v Speaker 5>Brown on the game. He got hurt, so can he

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<v Speaker 5>keep that going. It's against the Colts defense. We mentioned

0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:12.040
<v Speaker 5>on Wednesday, Grover Stewart's now out for six games. To me,

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<v Speaker 5>that was the one thing that had a chance to

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<v Speaker 5>make this defense special. It's definitely not special otherwise, but

0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:19.960
<v Speaker 5>they had a couple good defensive tackles. It's just hard

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<v Speaker 5>to imagine this Gardner Minshew offense going up against the

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<v Speaker 5>best defense in the league. The way that the Jags

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<v Speaker 5>played the Colts last week was straight up disrespectful. It

0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:35.280
<v Speaker 5>was crazy. It didn't matter what formation the Colts did.

0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:38.399
<v Speaker 5>I think it was it Derek Klassen on Twitter put this,

0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:41.040
<v Speaker 5>put this out there that you could they were putting

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<v Speaker 5>out four wide receivers and it didn't matter, like the

0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:45.840
<v Speaker 5>Jaguars were just staying in there. Maybe it was Nate

0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:48.879
<v Speaker 5>Tice in their base formation and basically saying we're not

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<v Speaker 5>gonna let you run the ball no matter what we

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<v Speaker 5>will you can put howmever many receivers are out there,

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<v Speaker 5>and we'll just leave our cornerbacks on an island. This

0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:01.320
<v Speaker 5>is Jacksonville. I mean their cornerbacks. It's not the Browns

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<v Speaker 5>by any means. It's like, well, we'll give you one

0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:05.600
<v Speaker 5>on ones everywhere, but no matter what, we're not gonna

0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:08.400
<v Speaker 5>let you run. And we don't think your wide receivers

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<v Speaker 5>can beat us, and we don't think Gardner Minshew can

0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:12.639
<v Speaker 5>beat us. And you know what, they were absolutely right,

0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:14.560
<v Speaker 5>and so like, why wouldn't the Browns play that way?

0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:17.680
<v Speaker 5>Why wouldn't every team play that way? Because Michael Pittman's

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<v Speaker 5>the only guy that you really worry about, and you

0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:22.760
<v Speaker 5>don't worry about Gardner Minshew being special making special throws.

0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:25.359
<v Speaker 5>And by the way, like the Browns lock you down

0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:27.360
<v Speaker 5>on the outside better than any.

0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:28.880
<v Speaker 3>Team in the league. It is a tough match.

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<v Speaker 4>I have a stat that Greg will absolutely not care about.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's hear it. We know where how Greg Greg

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<v Speaker 3>is in this world. I'm in your head, on my head.

0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:38.720
<v Speaker 3>It's just the first thing that came to my mind

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<v Speaker 3>when I read this right.

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<v Speaker 2>When people think back to past conversations, that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>that you live in their head.

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<v Speaker 4>It is sumptuous exactly living in your head you are not,

0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:50.920
<v Speaker 4>first of all.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's what they always say. Right now, So it

0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:55.440
<v Speaker 3>makes me feel better, just I know. It's fine.

0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:58.160
<v Speaker 4>Fewest yards allowed through five games in a season by

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<v Speaker 4>a team since the nineteen seventy one Cults, that is

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<v Speaker 4>the Browns. I mean, I threw that out there on

0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:07.360
<v Speaker 4>Sunday night the last time. But remember when I was saying,

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<v Speaker 4>I thought this, like the nineteen ninety four Bill Belichick defense,

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<v Speaker 4>it's better than that so far. The last time they

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<v Speaker 4>finished with the number one total defense, the Browns nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>fifty five. There have been a lot of years of

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<v Speaker 4>bad defense, and it's like, I think the Niners game

0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:23.560
<v Speaker 4>last week was not all Cleveland's defense entirely. There was

0:22:23.600 --> 0:22:26.600
<v Speaker 4>some weather involved and some other stuff. But like when

0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:29.040
<v Speaker 4>they put it on teams like they really do it.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I'm gonna know because I'm telling you why

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying that, because I'm taking the Cleveland Browns, I

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<v Speaker 4>think for the first time in a really long time,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm locking them up against the cults on the road.

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<v Speaker 4>They're giving up two point five points, two and a

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<v Speaker 4>half points.

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<v Speaker 2>Very nerve wracking for me and Rosenthal. Why locking up

0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:46.680
<v Speaker 2>the Brownies. You haven't done it a lot.

0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:49.520
<v Speaker 4>I didn't see a lot of good luck opportunities.

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<v Speaker 5>We get dark Sessler if they blow it against the

0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:58.040
<v Speaker 5>Minshew And that line is probably gonna change if Watson plays,

0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:01.679
<v Speaker 5>which at this point, if he's practicing, signs are pointing up.

0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:04.400
<v Speaker 2>It's actually gone up to three already. Why practice, He's

0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:08.040
<v Speaker 2>got to be feeling somewhat better to be practicing. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, that's I think it's a solid look. I

0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:12.440
<v Speaker 2>think the Browns are in good position in that game.

0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:15.800
<v Speaker 2>Let's see. All right, one more Marks sneaks back to you.

0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:16.280
<v Speaker 3>All right.

0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:19.800
<v Speaker 4>I like to watch disasters just unfold before my eyes,

0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:21.200
<v Speaker 4>and I am Maggie.

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<v Speaker 3>You like blowouts you can finish your notes with in

0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:25.520
<v Speaker 3>quarter two? Is what you're like to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he's got the Brownies, and he wants to keep

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<v Speaker 2>the focus where it needs in this case.

0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:33.359
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think you've sent some passion around my

0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:36.560
<v Speaker 4>distaste and or almost actually joy for what's occurring to

0:23:36.560 --> 0:23:37.160
<v Speaker 4>the patriots.

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<v Speaker 3>Weird because he wrote the Belichick letters, Yeah, what is

0:23:39.640 --> 0:23:40.000
<v Speaker 3>that about.

0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Let's let's let's sit there for a second, because I

0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:44.920
<v Speaker 2>noticed there was a real venom. And this is coming

0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:47.520
<v Speaker 2>from a guy that adores this type of heat on

0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:50.520
<v Speaker 2>the Patriots. But I sense you talking about the Pats

0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:55.520
<v Speaker 2>and and Belichick in a way with a hissing sense.

0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:57.439
<v Speaker 2>What where is that coming from? Why are you so

0:23:57.680 --> 0:24:01.040
<v Speaker 2>mad about the Patriots? And again, I'm not complaining.

0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:02.360
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, I love it. I'm just curious.

0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:05.720
<v Speaker 4>I agree that it's curious to me too, because like overall,

0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:08.520
<v Speaker 4>I have, like Bill Belichick's one of my like kind

0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:11.720
<v Speaker 4>of overall favorite NFL figures of all time. But I

0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:14.960
<v Speaker 4>kind of like they've also quietly been living in this

0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:18.520
<v Speaker 4>like dream carpet ride for decades, and it's like you

0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 4>just it got normalized and it's different and it's new

0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:23.400
<v Speaker 4>and it's interesting, and it's like if the if Belichi

0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:25.480
<v Speaker 4>truly is the greatest coach and he has a chance

0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:27.920
<v Speaker 4>to continue this job beyond this year, it's like I'm

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<v Speaker 4>more interested to see how he gets out of this

0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:31.240
<v Speaker 4>mess than the how often he.

0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:34.560
<v Speaker 5>Won with I mean the carpet ride ended five years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>Five years did pretty long time.

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<v Speaker 4>I did, but like they but you'd argue that they

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<v Speaker 4>they were a playoff two.

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:41.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean like that, like maybe mac Jones work. They were,

0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:43.840
<v Speaker 3>they were hanging around nine wins.

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<v Speaker 2>This is different the second As I said at the time,

0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:48.680
<v Speaker 2>they weren't special anymore.

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:51.600
<v Speaker 3>Now they're bad. They're bad. How bad will they be?

0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 2>This seems like a chance for them to I don't

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:57.480
<v Speaker 2>mean they're back in July and in general in the past,

0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:00.239
<v Speaker 2>even post Brady, when they're in their Bill they they

0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:03.000
<v Speaker 2>they can be competitive. But this is the same team

0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:04.720
<v Speaker 2>that got shut out by the Saints a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>weeks ago.

0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:09.840
<v Speaker 3>And they're giving up ninety raising the hand that doesn't

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:12.000
<v Speaker 3>I call him.

0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:14.600
<v Speaker 5>Mark has not actually drafted the game yet or revealed

0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:16.440
<v Speaker 5>what the game is, so I think that is a

0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:17.119
<v Speaker 5>good point of it.

0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:20.080
<v Speaker 4>It is Bills at Patriots and the Patriots at home

0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 4>are getting nine points. I don't know if that's ever

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:25.480
<v Speaker 4>happened to Build Belichick in New England. Maybe maybe be

0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:28.000
<v Speaker 4>before Tom Brady. They were a bad team. Then they

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 4>were a bad team. And this is like another little

0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 4>thing that stood out to me. Where is this little thing?

0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:33.199
<v Speaker 3>Hold on?

0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:36.920
<v Speaker 4>You have to go back to the nineteen ninety two

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:41.119
<v Speaker 4>Dick McPherson run New England Patriots. Greg you remember those years,

0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:42.840
<v Speaker 4>just a disaster for an offense.

0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:45.720
<v Speaker 5>This, the year where he won five or six games,

0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:48.400
<v Speaker 5>was actually one of the best, like Patriots seasons.

0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:50.720
<v Speaker 3>This was not that year. This was not that year.

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:52.880
<v Speaker 4>I remember that with some spicy comacks and he's crying

0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 4>on the sideline. You know, probably wish he still was

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 4>at Syracuse, But I get that. I don't for me

0:25:57.640 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 4>a little bit too. It's like the Bills escaped that

0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:04.119
<v Speaker 4>Giants game. They escaped. I think if that call doesn't happen,

0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:06.080
<v Speaker 4>if Darren Waller gets a call on the end like that,

0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:08.399
<v Speaker 4>the Bills are asking a huge question about the Bills.

0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:11.000
<v Speaker 4>It's like Josh Allen, he'd been dominant in stretches, he

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 4>leads the league and completion percentage. He's also been I

0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 4>think in that Giant scheme, like he left some passes

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 4>on the field and like seem to not read certain

0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:21.440
<v Speaker 4>wide open guys. And it's like outside of Stepan Digs,

0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:24.119
<v Speaker 4>it's like it's hard to really say he's connected with

0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:27.280
<v Speaker 4>someone on a consistent basis. Miss James Cook on what

0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:29.000
<v Speaker 4>could have been a big touchdown a week ago. So

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:30.800
<v Speaker 4>I think it's like, if you can't do it in

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 4>this game, Buffalo, I mean, this is a place to

0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:34.359
<v Speaker 4>go flex your muscles. And I think it's there's some

0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:37.879
<v Speaker 4>added juice to it with being New England, get right, because.

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:40.160
<v Speaker 3>I I for a couple of weeks I.

0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 4>See the Bills as like a dominant operation and then

0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:43.399
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I don't don't trust them.

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:44.119
<v Speaker 3>They're a weird too.

0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:46.159
<v Speaker 2>They're like a team that you kind of know what's

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 2>coming by the end of the first quarter, like they're

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:49.439
<v Speaker 2>even going to just put.

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:51.639
<v Speaker 3>It on a team or they're just a little bit

0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 3>out of sync.

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:54.359
<v Speaker 2>And they did to their credit, after what was a

0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 2>woeful first half against the Giants. They had a couple

0:26:57.240 --> 0:26:59.600
<v Speaker 2>of long touchdown drives in the second half and the

0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:02.879
<v Speaker 2>defense didn't exactly light the world on fire either, and

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:04.640
<v Speaker 2>they were able to hold off at the very end there.

0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 2>So they were very fortunate to get out of there

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:08.360
<v Speaker 2>with a win. And if nothing else, I guess it's

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:11.160
<v Speaker 2>a reminder to that team that you know, you can't

0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:14.440
<v Speaker 2>just walk into any building and say where the Bills

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:17.080
<v Speaker 2>and just roll because look at it, it's almost beat you.

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 2>In primetime that would have been a huge amos rs.

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:20.720
<v Speaker 2>They own this matchup.

0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:22.760
<v Speaker 5>These are not the Giant I trust them to destroy

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:25.159
<v Speaker 5>the Patriots way more than I just, you know, against

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:27.199
<v Speaker 5>the Giants, who there was you know, a lot of

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:31.199
<v Speaker 5>coaching crossover there in terms of you know, knowledge and

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 5>dable and it just is an unfamiliar matchup versus a

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:40.400
<v Speaker 5>team that you ended. Whatever was left that was special

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 5>to me, truly ended at the end of the.

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:46.560
<v Speaker 3>Patriots playoff season.

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:49.639
<v Speaker 5>Actually like that, even though they made the playoffs that season,

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:53.239
<v Speaker 5>the fact that they lost forty seven to seventeen in

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:57.439
<v Speaker 5>the playoffs and didn't stop Josh Allen one single time

0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 5>in that game or the regular season game before late

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:04.800
<v Speaker 5>in the regular season. This defense this year, which I

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 5>thought had a chance to be very good, is not

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 5>gonna be good because of injuries partly and because it's

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 5>just not happening for some of their young players up

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:18.159
<v Speaker 5>front really growing in a way that I expected. But

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 5>injuries are a huge part of it. They have twenty

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 5>players on their injury report this week.

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:27.200
<v Speaker 3>That is almost half the roster.

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:29.880
<v Speaker 5>That is outrageous, and like seven or eight of them

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:31.879
<v Speaker 5>are just out out there. They've got the thing where

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 5>like they can't even field a normal in actives list

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 5>because they've got more players that are out than they

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 5>have in actives, and then they've got another fifteen guys

0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 5>on the injury report.

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 4>So it's so good luck with that the real disadvantage

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 4>for me this week.

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:46.880
<v Speaker 5>Let's see something out of von Miller though or no,

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if it's gonna happen this week, but

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 5>like I think it's just something to watch throughout the

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 5>course of the season that he hasn't not only been

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 5>playing a full complement of snaps, but just doesn't even

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 5>look remotely like von Miller, which is, you know, always

0:28:57.760 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 5>a risk when you're a thirty four year old coming

0:28:59.920 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 5>up off of it.

0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 3>It's fair to ask the question, greg E.

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's take a break and when we come back,

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 2>we'll get back to the draft. All right, welcome back.

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 2>It comes back to me and I will grab a

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 2>game that I feel like is gonna be interesting. The

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 2>Atlanta Falcons are traveling to Tampa to face the Buccaneers,

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:28.479
<v Speaker 2>who are getting two and a half. Do we have

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:31.959
<v Speaker 2>the Baker sound, Yeah, let's listen to Baker, who you know.

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 2>The Lions game last week was a tough one. I

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 2>think they I think internally Tampa entering that game three

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:39.360
<v Speaker 2>and one, I believe saw it as a measuring stick

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 2>game and they did not measure up.

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:43.479
<v Speaker 3>And there's a lot of frustration. Let's listen to Baker.

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 3>We sucked today. I sucked today. We sucked today. It

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 3>was awful. If we play like that, we're gonna lose

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 3>every time.

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 6>So I mean, the defense and special teams did an

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:54.680
<v Speaker 6>amazing job yet again, and offense, we just need to

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 6>pick her up.

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I like it. Yeah, same, I like it.

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 2>They're owning up to it. And and they did leave

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 2>plays on the field. Baker did not play very well,

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 2>but they also you know, they just missed a couple ones,

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 2>very frustrating performance. He missed the young kid Palmer a

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 2>couple of times. The Evans hookup wasn't there. Godwin was

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 2>the only player they really had any type of chemistry.

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:20.160
<v Speaker 2>And their screen game, which is an important part of

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 2>their offense, they couldn't get that going. And a lot

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 2>of credits got to go to Detroit and what they've

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 2>been able to do all year, which has become a

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 2>well balanced team, and they and they messed, They messed

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 2>with Tampa now they get the Falcons, and the Falcons

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 2>to me have been a disappointing team boys on really

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 2>on both sides of the ball, and I just feel like.

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 5>Too disagree with you there. But defense has been solid.

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 4>But you're right on offense, yes, okay, I mean could

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 4>put it what we were saying a month ago.

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 3>What were we saying? What is their DVOA? Overall?

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 5>It's buried twenty fifth? For sure, They're not They're not great.

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 5>I just didn't expect much on defense.

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 4>They've been on defense on third down like red zone.

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 3>To pick their average, which for them is better.

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 2>I believe Tampa at home is in a very good

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 2>spot here against Atlanta, and I keep on thinking that

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna eventually get the bottoming out game at the

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 2>quarterback position for Atlanta where Arthur Smith, instead of these

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 2>constant cuts to the sideline and he's stroking his mustache

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 2>and frustration, he actually does something about it. I think

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna happen after this game. I'm locking up the

0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Tampa Bay Buccaneer, which I didn't think I would ever

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 2>do this season, lock up a Baker Mayfield team, but

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 2>I like what I've seen from the Bucks overall, I

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:34.280
<v Speaker 2>like him at home and I like him.

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 3>I liked hearing Baker and that he's pissed and they're

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 3>looking to take it out on something. I'm with you.

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 4>I almost locked this too, and I'd see this as

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 4>a low scoring game that allows the Bucks to magnify

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 4>their strengths. They are third against the run in terms

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 4>of EPA six feuis yard rushing yards. Well, listen to

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:52.480
<v Speaker 4>some of these totals. This year, Vikings held to forty

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 4>one yards of the ground. Bad rushing team Bears sixty seven,

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 4>Saints seventy.

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 3>The Lions forty.

0:31:57.440 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 4>I know they were without some guys, but it's like,

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 4>this is what they do. Vidavea, as much as Baker Mayfield,

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:04.000
<v Speaker 4>is kind of the guy in this game that I

0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:07.760
<v Speaker 4>think can take Atlanta, who for all the whistling and

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 4>I did a lot of it about what their identity

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 4>would be this year, it's like the fourteenth best rushing team.

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 4>They've not been that great at that and they put

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 4>Desmond Ridder into a situation at times if you stop

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 4>the run where this guy that you just want to

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:21.640
<v Speaker 4>not make mistakes has been making mistakes the last couple

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 4>of games and starting to turn the ball over, and

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 4>I don't love the situation for the Falcons, and I'm

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 4>with you. I'm with you, Dan, I feel like this

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 4>could be where the trigger because this is a good

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 4>roster and the defense is solid and you've got parts,

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 4>and it's like, why not try Taylor Heineke if you're

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 4>going to get the same results with Ritter.

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 3>I hear that one good game in a bunch of

0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 3>bad games.

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 5>I hear all of that. I think you guys are right.

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:42.959
<v Speaker 5>I think last week kind of was a bottoming out.

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 5>I think he's had a couple bottoming out, and you're right,

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:47.800
<v Speaker 5>it's just sort of on Smith to make the change

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 5>at some point. But Arthur Smith bears as big a

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 5>you know, blame of anyone, not that he picked Ridder

0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 5>and that he stuck with Ridder, but that everything else

0:32:58.040 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 5>is such a mess.

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you get a delay game on the goal line.

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 4>Essentially with the game on the leadle, and then you

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 4>come back and you almost the that's not on the

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 4>quarterback and what happens is an ensuing play.

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Greg they ri Or throws a terrible right. It was

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 3>almost like you.

0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Get you get to delay a game, Greg game, then

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 2>you almost get cocked again and then you kind of

0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 2>panicky threw it up for grabs.

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:20.239
<v Speaker 5>Okay, so terrible, that's Arthur Smith. But more, you know,

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 5>looking from above is this run game. And that's the

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 5>thing that really gets me in this matchup a year ago,

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 5>and I think this is a good litmus test, kind

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 5>of like I talked about with Chiefs Chargers. In this

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 5>matchup a year ago, teams are pretty similar for the

0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 5>most part. The Falcons ran for one fifty one and

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 5>one seventy fourth. They split the two games, but the

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 5>Falcons running game got it, got it going both times.

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 5>You remember last year's Falcons running game, it was.

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:47.840
<v Speaker 4>Awesome, Yeah, Tyler Lgier. It did not have Bejon Robinson,

0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 4>who is awesome. And yet this year they're eighteenth in

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 4>DVOA in terms of they're running attack and it's not

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 4>about Bajon Robinson. Tayler Jeer is the perfect example of

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 4>how much worse it is because he he's the same player.

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:03.240
<v Speaker 4>He averaged almost five yards per carry a year ago

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 4>and he's averaging three point two.

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:05.000
<v Speaker 3>Now.

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 5>It's the blocking, it's the scheme. Everyone came prepared for it.

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:12.800
<v Speaker 5>There's different defenses which are maybe a little more ready

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 5>for this zone blocking scheme, and even though they have

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 5>the same offensive line in the same scheme, none of

0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 5>it's really working. And that's Arthur Smith. And you look

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:25.759
<v Speaker 5>at the Rams, for instance, in them and the forty

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 5>nine ers, who their running game is very diverse. They

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:29.360
<v Speaker 5>mix a lot of power, they do a lot of

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 5>different things. The Falcons are kind of they're do what

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 5>they do the zone running game, and they came back

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:35.719
<v Speaker 5>with what they did a year ago and it is

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 5>not working. And to me, that's that's messed up their

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:41.799
<v Speaker 5>entire team. And Ridder's that fault too, but it's messed

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 5>up Ridder too. And I don't know, because it's a

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:47.200
<v Speaker 5>tough matchup against a pretty good Bucks running I guess

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 5>like if.

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:51.040
<v Speaker 4>You like teams, teams you know new for months, this

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 4>is what the Falcons want to be. And they're going

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:55.239
<v Speaker 4>to put out a quarterback with very little experience. And

0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:57.840
<v Speaker 4>I think defenses this year versus even a year ago

0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:00.719
<v Speaker 4>are like preparing and planning for the Falcons in a

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:03.279
<v Speaker 4>different way, selling out to stop the ground game, and

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 4>it's putting in these games. These games were Riders throwing

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:07.560
<v Speaker 4>the ball thirty five to forty times like that was

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 4>not the plan.

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:10.680
<v Speaker 5>I mean last week Ritter had ten there were ten

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 5>passes defense for their opponent. He put it on the

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:15.359
<v Speaker 5>other team's hands ten games and.

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 2>That was And he's thrown Yeah, he's thrown five interceptions

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 2>in the last three weeks. And if you were actually

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 2>watching the games like this was coming. He was throwing

0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:25.760
<v Speaker 2>the ball right in the hands of the defenders every

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 2>week in the first month, and he was just the

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 2>beneficiary of a lot of good luck and a lot

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:32.319
<v Speaker 2>of drops. And now they're not dropping the ball. And

0:35:32.400 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 2>I think, like what you're saying with the running scheme

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:36.400
<v Speaker 2>and what's not quite right there?

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:40.279
<v Speaker 4>I think everything year, but the quarterback play was so

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:41.440
<v Speaker 4>terrible last year.

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 3>I know it was part of it. I know, so,

0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 3>but what is it then that like, what is it?

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 5>I think, Well, sometimes there's things that are un explainable.

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 5>But the team that they brought back and the scheme

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 5>teams are more ready for it for whatever reason, and

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:54.719
<v Speaker 5>they're not playing it.

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 2>They have I don't know, but they have a prodigy

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 2>at running back and who has not been a problem.

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:01.719
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I'm not gonna say anything negative about him,

0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 2>but he's not winning games.

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:03.240
<v Speaker 3>By himself.

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:06.959
<v Speaker 2>He's he's usually has a beautiful highlight reel play every week?

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:08.879
<v Speaker 3>Is that? Does he need to get the ball more?

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 4>Is it?

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:10.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:12.960
<v Speaker 2>It does seem like it's time to do something, Arthur,

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:15.320
<v Speaker 2>to mix this thing up before you blow the season.

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 3>And yet the winner fired.

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:19.760
<v Speaker 5>Is uh maybe my favorite because I don't trust the Saints.

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:21.440
<v Speaker 5>This could this could sound bad when you listen to

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:23.839
<v Speaker 5>it on Friday, but just like it's crazy how big

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 5>interesting game is?

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:26.600
<v Speaker 3>Interesting game? All right? Uh, Greg, you're up?

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:32.880
<v Speaker 5>Okay, I am gonna take a late game. Steelers at Rams.

0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:36.799
<v Speaker 5>Rams favored by three good value pick. At this point,

0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 5>I think, uh, this Rams seem very watchable. Steelers coming

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:43.440
<v Speaker 5>off of bye Are they gonna be different? One of

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:46.319
<v Speaker 5>the things that I look to with the Rams is

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:48.239
<v Speaker 5>if you can protect Stafford. He's one of the best

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:50.399
<v Speaker 5>quarterbacks in the league. I think he is playing as

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 5>well in the regular season as just about any of

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:56.839
<v Speaker 5>his great regular seasons. As someone who wrote the QB

0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:59.799
<v Speaker 5>Index for basically all of most of Stafford's career, I

0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:02.400
<v Speaker 5>could tell you at the end of the year he

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:05.919
<v Speaker 5>would end up usually eleven to fifteen. He actually didn't

0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:08.320
<v Speaker 5>have that many great regular seeds. He had a couple

0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:11.799
<v Speaker 5>and this, to me is one of them. But their

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:15.960
<v Speaker 5>offensive line when they've gone up against great competition hasn't

0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 5>protected him as well. And this is great competition, so

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 5>high Smith and what if you can get after Stafford,

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:25.520
<v Speaker 5>the Steelers can make this an uglier game.

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 3>And I think I.

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:29.680
<v Speaker 5>Thought really hard about locking up the Rams here. I

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:31.840
<v Speaker 5>do like them to win this game. They are favored

0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 5>by three. I didn't pull the trigger in the end

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:38.240
<v Speaker 5>because what and high Smith just worry me and Tomlin coming.

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:40.840
<v Speaker 4>Off of by It's like the Steelers are a weird defense,

0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 4>and I really I think we've all kind of like

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:46.279
<v Speaker 4>yards per game or sort of they can they could

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:48.360
<v Speaker 4>be mystified and not really tell the story, but they

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 4>give up the third most yards per game on defense.

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:53.479
<v Speaker 4>But their takeaways at the end of games and close games,

0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:58.360
<v Speaker 4>especially like it's like TJ Watch Magic Power absolutely completely

0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:00.799
<v Speaker 4>changed the script. And I think it's a huge thing

0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:03.120
<v Speaker 4>about them, like we're in this, I see this being

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 4>real tight. I like the fact for a really bad

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 4>offense that probably at this point you just lean on

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:11.480
<v Speaker 4>Jaalen Warren and George Pickens, you know, Jayleen Warren feels

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:12.880
<v Speaker 4>like he could be a little he could be a

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:15.400
<v Speaker 4>little bit special for a really vanilla attack. But you

0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:18.800
<v Speaker 4>are getting Pat Fryarmouth back at practice this week. Deontay

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:20.480
<v Speaker 4>Johnson's back at practice.

0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:25.279
<v Speaker 5>Like, I mean, that's huge, Absolutely, a wide receiver as

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 5>good as Pickins is right, I mean, this is an

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:29.600
<v Speaker 5>offense that this is hard to do almost They have

0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:32.200
<v Speaker 5>average twelve point six points per game.

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:34.440
<v Speaker 3>They're the worst red zone attack in the league.

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:37.959
<v Speaker 4>They've scored thirty point plus points one twice since twenty

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:39.920
<v Speaker 4>twenty one, and they have a cross four hundred yards

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 4>as an offense in fifty three games.

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:45.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they're they're facing an offense that is going

0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:47.840
<v Speaker 2>to score points. I think it's a tough matchup for Pittsburgh.

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:50.720
<v Speaker 2>You gotta travel across the gotta travel across the country.

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:53.400
<v Speaker 2>I know you're coming off your buye and I imagine

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Tomlin has been obsessing over this roster and how to

0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 2>fix things. So maybe you see a little bit different

0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:01.080
<v Speaker 2>in terms of scheme and matt on the offensive side

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:02.839
<v Speaker 2>of the ball. But I think the Rams are gonna

0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:06.080
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna continue to play well at home and score points.

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 2>And I just don't see it. I don't see it

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:10.319
<v Speaker 2>coming with this offense, with this quarterback right now, the

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:13.480
<v Speaker 2>ability to score twenty two points or whatever it's gonna take.

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:16.879
<v Speaker 5>Okay, I agree for the most part. And I love

0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:20.000
<v Speaker 5>the energy that Raheem Morris has. The Rams defense played with.

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 5>They're not the most talented group, they play with a

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 5>lot of energy, you can see it. But Deontay Johnson

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:28.560
<v Speaker 5>is a huge addition for a team we've recognized can't

0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:31.760
<v Speaker 5>really win schematically, but he's just a player that wins

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:34.680
<v Speaker 5>on his own. He gets open about as regularly as

0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 5>any number two type of receiver in the league. Friarmouth

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:39.560
<v Speaker 5>is a big time player for them too, So that

0:39:39.719 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 5>really changes their offense and makes it challenging for the

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 5>Rams defense. And then you flip it and you lose

0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 5>Kyron Williams on the Rams side.

0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:49.360
<v Speaker 3>We didn't hit that on Wednesday.

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:52.320
<v Speaker 5>He's going to be out, according to the reports, multiple weeks.

0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:55.799
<v Speaker 5>His backup also was hurt Ronnie Rivers last week. He's

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.320
<v Speaker 5>out four to five weeks. He was put on injured reserve.

0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 5>And so they're doing this thing where they're like trying

0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 5>out a bunch of different players during practice. They Zach

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:06.279
<v Speaker 5>Evans is a guy they've liked who's a special it's

0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 5>been a special teamer. They actually re signed Darryl Henderson

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:12.200
<v Speaker 5>to their practice, but weird one. That's why old Royce

0:40:12.239 --> 0:40:14.719
<v Speaker 5>Freeman who's bounced around, is there. So they're just they're

0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 5>trying things and they want to run the ball. But

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:17.279
<v Speaker 5>that's a pretty sick that kills him.

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 4>Kiren Williams, like in that second half against the cardif

0:40:20.120 --> 0:40:22.239
<v Speaker 4>time was I thought that was what they could be

0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:23.520
<v Speaker 4>for weeks and weeks going forward.

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Uh, somebody feels very confident this week? Oh yeah, wow,

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 2>I didn't.

0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:32.440
<v Speaker 6>Let's sad to the Cincinnati What have we got, Eric Robert, Yes, guys,

0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:35.480
<v Speaker 6>the Cincinnati Zoo has weighed in. No video this week,

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 6>no video, no message, but they're.

0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:40.200
<v Speaker 3>Probably all in jail. The way they're fighting. It's it's

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 3>amazing as fully the one member of the zoo is

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:44.799
<v Speaker 3>out and one of them is a child.

0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:49.279
<v Speaker 6>So I assume I'm texting Nick, right, Uh?

0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:52.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, typically so Nick Nick he calls himself the zoo

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:54.640
<v Speaker 2>keeper now I believe which is the brand.

0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:56.560
<v Speaker 6>So no video message, but he didn't want to let

0:40:56.600 --> 0:41:00.120
<v Speaker 6>you know. They picked the Rams over the Steelers and

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 6>the only thing he wanted me to I guess that

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:06.760
<v Speaker 6>you guys know is that quotes Greg is a coward.

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:10.640
<v Speaker 3>That's all he wanted me to tell you guys. It

0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:11.760
<v Speaker 3>doesn't even make sense.

0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:14.040
<v Speaker 4>Keep that messaging clean and simple. I like it.

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:16.400
<v Speaker 3>Make sure you call Greg a coward on my behalf

0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 3>end quote.

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 2>So he texted you and he here's my pick, and

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:20.960
<v Speaker 2>tell Greg he's.

0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:21.319
<v Speaker 3>At the coward.

0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:23.919
<v Speaker 6>He was busy, you know, So no video this week

0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:26.480
<v Speaker 6>if you if I can't get to it, make sure

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:28.320
<v Speaker 6>you call Greg a coward on my behalf.

0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:31.760
<v Speaker 3>All right, and now you have there, you go. Job done. Greg.

0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Don't use your clout to bury Eric Roberts. He's just

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:36.320
<v Speaker 2>the messenger.

0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Nick said too. And you're according to your standards and worlds.

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean clearly.

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:44.799
<v Speaker 5>Nick is a competitive guy who's never won a lock

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:48.000
<v Speaker 5>championship and never really been in contention in the final

0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:48.880
<v Speaker 5>week or so.

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:50.279
<v Speaker 3>He wants what I have.

0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:53.160
<v Speaker 2>Feels like a good time to check in. So going

0:41:53.200 --> 0:41:55.040
<v Speaker 2>over all the locks are in. We all have different

0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:58.800
<v Speaker 2>teams this week, Greg Eagles, Mark Brown's Dan Falcons, and

0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:02.799
<v Speaker 2>here are the standings through week six. Greg five and one,

0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:06.439
<v Speaker 2>Uzz are four and two West Brothers four and two

0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:09.640
<v Speaker 2>and Mark at five hundred, you're one of the fifteen.

0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 2>You're now the sixteenth team at five hundred or around it. Mark,

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:16.719
<v Speaker 2>So you have some digging to do, but not you know,

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:18.480
<v Speaker 2>you're all right or climbing. I should say I'm not

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:20.320
<v Speaker 2>all right. I'm in last place.

0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:22.280
<v Speaker 3>You need this one. I mean this is again.

0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 2>We got the Browns locked up by the Sizzler the

0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:29.400
<v Speaker 2>quiet Storm, and I gotta have it lockstand.

0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 3>I might have to. I might have to. I am

0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:33.839
<v Speaker 3>considering something. Oh between now and the end.

0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 5>Of the show, we'll see I do God, Okay, you

0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 5>gotta do it during the show.

0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:39.359
<v Speaker 3>I know I am too. I'm like, I'm thinking about

0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:42.120
<v Speaker 3>doing something. It's gonna be kind of fun. Put Greg

0:42:42.120 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 3>and the crosshairs.

0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:46.200
<v Speaker 5>Really, that would be another lock. There's too many this

0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:49.239
<v Speaker 5>This week's stuff. This week is tough.

0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:52.080
<v Speaker 3>All right, let's see Greg back to you.

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:54.799
<v Speaker 5>Okay, I'm gonna take the worst game on the board.

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 5>I like to do that as my backup morning Mark.

0:42:57.480 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Likes to do that. High in the draft. Other people

0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 2>tend to lower with the pick.

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:03.120
<v Speaker 5>Okay, I can leave a different one for you, Dan.

0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:07.200
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to take Raiders minus three. At the Chicago Bears.

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 5>We've reached it, guys, We're at week seven. This is

0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:15.120
<v Speaker 5>a terrible game, and we have in the National Football League,

0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:17.439
<v Speaker 5>And I, for once I think that is necessary because

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:20.279
<v Speaker 5>I want to point out this is not one of

0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:25.640
<v Speaker 5>those spring leagues. It's not the XFL, it's not the AFL.

0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:29.120
<v Speaker 5>I think they combined the CFL. They are going to combine.

0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:32.960
<v Speaker 5>But we got we got Aid and O'Connell potentially starting

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:36.160
<v Speaker 5>for the Raiders, but we don't know. And we've got

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:42.160
<v Speaker 5>Tyson Badgen expected to start for the Chicago Bears. I

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 5>went and watched this Badgeant sixteen dropbacks because people were like, hey,

0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:49.280
<v Speaker 5>Badgin actually was kind of fun. I was like, why, Ah,

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:51.440
<v Speaker 5>he was kind of a mild disaster and what am

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:51.920
<v Speaker 5>I missing?

0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:54.839
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he dropped back to past sixteen times. He had

0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:59.839
<v Speaker 4>two disastrous turnovers. He made one really nice seam throw

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:02.319
<v Speaker 4>I think was that to Mooney. I forget number two on.

0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:05.239
<v Speaker 3>That must have really registered the yogals. And he had

0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:06.360
<v Speaker 3>a couple he had a couple.

0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 5>He had a couple of throws that were that were fine.

0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:10.800
<v Speaker 5>He got rid of the ball a little quicker than fields.

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:12.680
<v Speaker 5>But I saw nothing in that game that made me

0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 5>think they're upgrading that quarterback put it that way, so,

0:44:15.640 --> 0:44:17.760
<v Speaker 5>I I guess I get why the Raiders are favored,

0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:21.040
<v Speaker 5>but man, having Aiden O'Connell potentially favored by three points

0:44:21.080 --> 0:44:22.000
<v Speaker 5>is also outrageous.

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:25.600
<v Speaker 2>Maybe is Max Max Crosby just has four sacks and

0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:27.080
<v Speaker 2>ruins the game single handed.

0:44:27.320 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean if they did throw in Brian Hoyer,

0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:32.200
<v Speaker 4>this is like he's lost twelve straight starts.

0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:35.400
<v Speaker 5>Okay, yeah, I should, I should anymore provide context here

0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:37.799
<v Speaker 5>that I'm just guessing O'Connell.

0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 3>But maybe it will be Hoyer.

0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 5>There was a report that they had decided who their

0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:45.600
<v Speaker 5>starter will be, and the idea was maybe like Hoyer

0:44:45.719 --> 0:44:47.759
<v Speaker 5>was coming in when it's like replacing during the game

0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:50.680
<v Speaker 5>and Garoppo is not practicing, but he's also not ruled out.

0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:51.520
<v Speaker 3>We don't know much more.

0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:53.480
<v Speaker 4>It's uh, yeah, I mean this is these these are

0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:57.200
<v Speaker 4>like the games like this just both teams just eminate depression.

0:44:57.200 --> 0:44:59.040
<v Speaker 3>I just cannot. I'm glad you're watching the strike have

0:44:59.080 --> 0:44:59.480
<v Speaker 3>a nice time.

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:01.680
<v Speaker 5>But here's what's a difference. One of them is favored

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:03.759
<v Speaker 5>to be four and three after that Sunday ends.

0:45:03.800 --> 0:45:06.279
<v Speaker 3>Isn't that crazy? Well, yeah, it's fraudulent. It's what it is.

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:10.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Josh Jacobs is this is this is interesting.

0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:12.600
<v Speaker 4>I have to wonder if this someone just cooked this

0:45:12.640 --> 0:45:16.240
<v Speaker 4>into our research notebook as a complete fake. Josh Jacobs

0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:20.160
<v Speaker 4>is on pace to join someone named Toffy LeMans the only.

0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:22.759
<v Speaker 3>Player that's a mark man now.

0:45:22.800 --> 0:45:24.799
<v Speaker 4>It's the only player to average under three yards per

0:45:24.880 --> 0:45:26.919
<v Speaker 4>carry the season after leading the NFL and rushing Toughy

0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:30.600
<v Speaker 4>Lemons who existed back in nineteen thirty seven. So well done,

0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:32.839
<v Speaker 4>Josh Jacobs, and we've got this. DeVante Adams is now.

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:35.000
<v Speaker 4>But it's not Josh Jacobs. That's the thing. It's kind

0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 4>of like the Falcons.

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:37.680
<v Speaker 5>I'm more convinced than every yards per carry is like

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:40.319
<v Speaker 5>an offensive line. Well, if we know anyth about Josh Jacobs,

0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:42.160
<v Speaker 5>there was some suspicion that what he was last year

0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:43.440
<v Speaker 5>was just going to be for the next three or

0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:43.960
<v Speaker 5>four years.

0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:46.560
<v Speaker 4>He's always been hot and cold. The offense feels disorganized

0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:48.759
<v Speaker 4>to me. DeVante Adams is upset. I think we've got

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:50.400
<v Speaker 4>some sound for him. We predicted this.

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:51.520
<v Speaker 3>Let's listen to me.

0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 7>It's not just about you know, I'm sure people thinking

0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:56.040
<v Speaker 7>like you know what they won the game they won

0:45:56.080 --> 0:45:57.960
<v Speaker 7>the Packers game. You know why is there an issue?

0:45:58.120 --> 0:45:59.880
<v Speaker 7>I mean, you see why it is the issue. You know,

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:02.200
<v Speaker 7>y'all should know who I am, know what I'm about

0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 7>at this point. So it's not about you know when

0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:07.920
<v Speaker 7>when you when you're a player like me mentally is

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:11.960
<v Speaker 7>my benchmark is not wins and losses, is greatness. So

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:13.919
<v Speaker 7>when I go out there, I expect to be able

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:16.000
<v Speaker 7>to have that ability to put that on tape and

0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:19.000
<v Speaker 7>have an influence on the game. And that's like I

0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:21.359
<v Speaker 7>say every week, that's my purpose for being here. I'm

0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:22.680
<v Speaker 7>not here just to hang out.

0:46:22.880 --> 0:46:26.799
<v Speaker 2>It's like the the Factory's blank number of days without

0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:29.000
<v Speaker 2>an accident, and then he got to somebody falls off

0:46:29.000 --> 0:46:31.280
<v Speaker 2>a ladder or into a vat of acid or something,

0:46:31.480 --> 0:46:31.839
<v Speaker 2>and then.

0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:34.000
<v Speaker 3>You have to erase the chalkboard. It's a tragedy.

0:46:34.040 --> 0:46:35.319
<v Speaker 2>One of those would be worse than the other one.

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:36.919
<v Speaker 2>And uh, and then you have to put the zero

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:39.160
<v Speaker 2>and it's a tough move. That's went back to zero

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:42.280
<v Speaker 2>days without a wide receiver chirping to the media about

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:42.799
<v Speaker 2>their role.

0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:46.439
<v Speaker 3>Of course, not EVERYR wide receiver is the same.

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:49.239
<v Speaker 2>DeVante Adams he can chirp because he's Devanta Adams and

0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:49.799
<v Speaker 2>that's hard.

0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:52.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, to me, that's productive chirping it. And it was

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:54.520
<v Speaker 5>on a question of why he wants to be better.

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Sure, I'm not I'm not taking anything. I'm not you know,

0:46:58.000 --> 0:47:00.200
<v Speaker 2>going after ATMs. I'm more just saying this is part

0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:03.600
<v Speaker 2>of what comes with having wide receivers and high profile

0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:04.520
<v Speaker 2>ones and elite ones.

0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:05.520
<v Speaker 3>You gotta get them the ball.

0:47:05.560 --> 0:47:07.480
<v Speaker 2>If you don't get them the ball, you're gonna hear

0:47:07.520 --> 0:47:10.880
<v Speaker 2>about it, either inside the building or outside or And

0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:11.879
<v Speaker 2>that's what's happening here.

0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:14.120
<v Speaker 3>And they do have to do it. They figure out away.

0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:17.360
<v Speaker 3>He's been like, you know, more of a decoin spots.

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:19.279
<v Speaker 4>But I do think he was like sold a bill

0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:21.319
<v Speaker 4>of goods on some level because it's like, come back

0:47:21.360 --> 0:47:23.160
<v Speaker 4>and here's this story. I never thought it was gonna

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:24.960
<v Speaker 4>turn out great, but like come play with your best

0:47:24.960 --> 0:47:27.600
<v Speaker 4>friend Derek Carr. Then you move on from Derek Carr

0:47:27.600 --> 0:47:29.640
<v Speaker 4>in a way that Demania Adams never understood.

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:32.279
<v Speaker 2>At the same time, like that was a calculated risk

0:47:32.320 --> 0:47:35.359
<v Speaker 2>from the very star. Sure, you went to a Raiders

0:47:35.600 --> 0:47:39.200
<v Speaker 2>organization that has not done much of anything in years.

0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:41.480
<v Speaker 2>You joined kind of a mid tier quarterback that is

0:47:41.480 --> 0:47:43.759
<v Speaker 2>a buddy of yours, and you left Aaron Rodgers and

0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:45.960
<v Speaker 2>the Packers behind. It was always a bit of a gamble.

0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:47.960
<v Speaker 2>The money was great and getting back to Vegas or

0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:50.680
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is was great, I wonder, and we could

0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:53.520
<v Speaker 2>save it for a conversation next week. If this is

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:56.600
<v Speaker 2>the first of maybe a very quick story.

0:47:56.719 --> 0:47:59.160
<v Speaker 4>It feels flash pointy, but we have talked about this before.

0:47:59.200 --> 0:47:59.919
<v Speaker 3>There was a move.

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:02.360
<v Speaker 5>He's also, by the way, on pace for thirteen hundred

0:48:02.360 --> 0:48:03.120
<v Speaker 5>and fifty yards.

0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:05.799
<v Speaker 2>He's not having like totally different though last year he

0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:07.960
<v Speaker 2>was a monster. He was every bit as productive and

0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:10.799
<v Speaker 2>good as he was with Aaron Rodgers playing with Derek Carr.

0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:12.759
<v Speaker 2>But it just doesn't feel the same this year.

0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:15.040
<v Speaker 4>And he's and you've got and if you've got you know,

0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:17.560
<v Speaker 4>people like Brian Hoyer and Aidan O'Connell in there, it's

0:48:17.600 --> 0:48:18.840
<v Speaker 4>not going to get any better. And like I was

0:48:18.920 --> 0:48:20.879
<v Speaker 4>just saying to Greg, like, could you if they weren't

0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:23.160
<v Speaker 4>in the same division and the Raiders wanted to get

0:48:23.160 --> 0:48:25.319
<v Speaker 4>out of this, because it's just there's no just if

0:48:25.320 --> 0:48:28.000
<v Speaker 4>he wound up on the Chiefs, all right, wow.

0:48:28.040 --> 0:48:28.600
<v Speaker 3>Let's move on.

0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I was trying not to throw anything out there because

0:48:32.600 --> 0:48:35.120
<v Speaker 2>we save it for a conversation.

0:48:34.719 --> 0:48:36.320
<v Speaker 3>That's a fantasy that's not about to happen.

0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:41.279
<v Speaker 2>Never know, all right, I am up and this one

0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:44.319
<v Speaker 2>actually works out nicely because I really do. I was

0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:47.600
<v Speaker 2>thinking about it after the Wednesday show, like, ah, should

0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:48.040
<v Speaker 2>I have been?

0:48:49.040 --> 0:48:50.920
<v Speaker 3>And I wasn't the only one that said nay, I don't. Oh.

0:48:50.960 --> 0:48:52.800
<v Speaker 3>I was actually with the Giant the Giants.

0:48:52.840 --> 0:48:55.839
<v Speaker 2>I saved the Giants Washington the Giants so and then

0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:57.839
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking to myself, if I was willing to

0:48:57.920 --> 0:49:04.160
<v Speaker 2>save the Giants in the Fork Committee proceedings, do I

0:49:04.200 --> 0:49:07.640
<v Speaker 2>owe it to the g men and to to the board,

0:49:07.640 --> 0:49:10.040
<v Speaker 2>to the committee to lock the g Men this week

0:49:10.040 --> 0:49:12.680
<v Speaker 2>against the Commanders. And ultimately I went against doing that

0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:15.200
<v Speaker 2>because you just don't lock one in five football teams

0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:17.840
<v Speaker 2>because they got that way for a reason.

0:49:18.080 --> 0:49:21.320
<v Speaker 3>However, I do I like the Giants this week.

0:49:21.840 --> 0:49:26.319
<v Speaker 2>I thought, even in a crushing loss to Buffalo, I

0:49:26.440 --> 0:49:29.480
<v Speaker 2>like this idea that the worst is the worst has

0:49:29.520 --> 0:49:31.560
<v Speaker 2>passed this team. I didn't think. I don't think that

0:49:31.719 --> 0:49:34.799
<v Speaker 2>this coaching staff overnight became bad. I think there's a

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:37.440
<v Speaker 2>reason why they were an organization on the upswing going

0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:39.880
<v Speaker 2>into this year. I think they're gonna steady the ship

0:49:39.880 --> 0:49:41.839
<v Speaker 2>and and and that's why I didn't want to fork

0:49:41.920 --> 0:49:44.319
<v Speaker 2>them because I think I think in about a month,

0:49:44.960 --> 0:49:47.680
<v Speaker 2>in about a month to six weeks from now, we'll

0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:49.319
<v Speaker 2>be talking about, oh, the Giants, Oh they have a

0:49:49.360 --> 0:49:51.319
<v Speaker 2>sneaky three game winning streak all of a sudden. Yeah,

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:53.200
<v Speaker 2>it's like and maybe that only gets them back to

0:49:53.239 --> 0:49:55.240
<v Speaker 2>four and six. And it's not like you're you're pounding

0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:57.120
<v Speaker 2>the table that they're they're going to the super Bowl

0:49:57.239 --> 0:49:59.879
<v Speaker 2>or anything. But I think there's gonna be some life.

0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:02.919
<v Speaker 2>I think it starts here. I think the Giants at home,

0:50:03.040 --> 0:50:05.880
<v Speaker 2>what is this situation? A quarterback, I would say that's important.

0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:08.720
<v Speaker 2>But Tyrod Taylor, I think is a good enough backup

0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:13.200
<v Speaker 2>where the offense will remain functional. And against Washington, which

0:50:13.239 --> 0:50:15.600
<v Speaker 2>is kind of a hard team to figure out week

0:50:15.640 --> 0:50:19.520
<v Speaker 2>to week, this feels like a g men victory week.

0:50:19.719 --> 0:50:22.480
<v Speaker 3>I might be alan on this. This is a crazy matchup.

0:50:22.600 --> 0:50:25.560
<v Speaker 4>They were heading into Week seven and these teams have

0:50:25.640 --> 0:50:28.280
<v Speaker 4>combined to give up seventy seven sacks and it's pretty

0:50:28.360 --> 0:50:31.160
<v Speaker 4>it's thirty four for Washington and thirty three for the Giants.

0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:33.239
<v Speaker 4>I mean, we've seen it a lot in New York

0:50:33.320 --> 0:50:36.279
<v Speaker 4>on prime time and with Sam Howell, who's been like

0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:40.279
<v Speaker 4>a really interesting quarterback, I think, but it's not like

0:50:40.360 --> 0:50:42.719
<v Speaker 4>how it's different than the New York's offensive line is

0:50:42.760 --> 0:50:45.000
<v Speaker 4>one of these units you're talking about, like every time

0:50:45.000 --> 0:50:47.600
<v Speaker 4>you turn around, they lose a starter, they lose backups,

0:50:47.640 --> 0:50:50.200
<v Speaker 4>they lose third string guys, like it is a complete disaster.

0:50:50.280 --> 0:50:52.440
<v Speaker 4>And I think a lot of that is Daniel Jones

0:50:52.440 --> 0:50:55.920
<v Speaker 4>getting crushed because of that injury situation. But Washington grades

0:50:55.960 --> 0:50:58.520
<v Speaker 4>out by certain metrics. It's like around the eighth best

0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:03.520
<v Speaker 4>blocking pass blocking unit. And Howell holds that ball thirty

0:51:03.560 --> 0:51:07.280
<v Speaker 4>four of his sacks, thirteen of them are essentially charged

0:51:07.320 --> 0:51:09.600
<v Speaker 4>on him according to PFF. So you know, I think

0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:12.800
<v Speaker 4>if he could that goes back to his pre college

0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:14.160
<v Speaker 4>tape two. You know, if you look at some of

0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:16.440
<v Speaker 4>the scouting reports. So I mean, if he could change that,

0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:18.839
<v Speaker 4>I think they've really got They've got like the chance

0:51:18.880 --> 0:51:22.239
<v Speaker 4>to have a quarterback that is extremely productive. But this

0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:24.600
<v Speaker 4>is maybe a chance for a pretty defunct Giants pass

0:51:24.680 --> 0:51:26.760
<v Speaker 4>rush to caveon Thibodeau.

0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:29.239
<v Speaker 3>Our friend like to him and the company do something there.

0:51:29.320 --> 0:51:32.080
<v Speaker 2>I could count the number of sacks the gized I've

0:51:32.080 --> 0:51:33.520
<v Speaker 2>had on all season on one.

0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:34.560
<v Speaker 3>Hit, yeah, fie.

0:51:34.880 --> 0:51:40.520
<v Speaker 5>And that's despite the most blitz heavy team in the league.

0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:42.680
<v Speaker 5>I'm not sure if they actually have passed if they're

0:51:42.680 --> 0:51:45.520
<v Speaker 5>ahead of Minnesota at this point, but they've been one

0:51:45.600 --> 0:51:49.080
<v Speaker 5>two all year, so they blitzed like crazy and they

0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:52.200
<v Speaker 5>never get home. So that's kind of the question of

0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:54.319
<v Speaker 5>every team that plays the Giants is like, how are

0:51:54.320 --> 0:51:56.799
<v Speaker 5>you going to handle the blitz? And the answer for

0:51:56.880 --> 0:52:00.000
<v Speaker 5>almost every team has been awesome. The Giants are terrible.

0:52:00.360 --> 0:52:02.200
<v Speaker 5>I don't see it. I know they had like a

0:52:02.239 --> 0:52:06.120
<v Speaker 5>good sixty minutes in Buffalo in a matchup we talked

0:52:06.160 --> 0:52:08.759
<v Speaker 5>about already, But for the most part, I think that

0:52:09.120 --> 0:52:11.680
<v Speaker 5>they are the worst team in the NFL, along with

0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:13.759
<v Speaker 5>the Panthers and now you can throw the Patriots in there.

0:52:13.840 --> 0:52:16.200
<v Speaker 5>But in terms of like the total resume, I think

0:52:16.239 --> 0:52:19.840
<v Speaker 5>they're it. And they're so injured on the offensive line.

0:52:20.080 --> 0:52:24.440
<v Speaker 5>They're losing new guys in practice. Shane Lemieux tore his

0:52:24.560 --> 0:52:27.880
<v Speaker 5>biceps on Wednesday. He was another I think he was

0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:30.520
<v Speaker 5>actually a replacement. I'm losing check of who's the replacement,

0:52:30.600 --> 0:52:33.120
<v Speaker 5>who wasn't he was he was, but he had been

0:52:33.160 --> 0:52:35.319
<v Speaker 5>there previously and been a starter previously.

0:52:35.719 --> 0:52:39.280
<v Speaker 3>Evan Neil was a top ten pick a year ago.

0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:42.480
<v Speaker 5>It's funny how like Cavon sometimes gets attentions like Cavin's

0:52:42.480 --> 0:52:42.879
<v Speaker 5>been fine.

0:52:42.920 --> 0:52:44.600
<v Speaker 4>He hasn't been great, but he hasn't been bad.

0:52:45.000 --> 0:52:47.279
<v Speaker 5>Evan Neil was a top ten pick and I think

0:52:47.360 --> 0:52:50.640
<v Speaker 5>according to PFF, was ranked second to last among all

0:52:50.719 --> 0:52:51.880
<v Speaker 5>qualifiers at tackle.

0:52:52.000 --> 0:52:53.120
<v Speaker 3>It's time to get him off tack.

0:52:53.239 --> 0:52:57.160
<v Speaker 4>He's injured. Andrew Thomas is injured. Still he's not coming back,

0:52:57.280 --> 0:53:00.359
<v Speaker 4>like their center is still injured. So I'd just think

0:53:00.440 --> 0:53:04.759
<v Speaker 4>Washington's gonna eat. And I like the I like the Commanders.

0:53:05.200 --> 0:53:07.399
<v Speaker 4>I like them getting two and a half.

0:53:07.840 --> 0:53:09.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and yes, I think what you're saying. We're talking

0:53:09.880 --> 0:53:11.960
<v Speaker 2>about the struggles and the injury issues of that line.

0:53:12.719 --> 0:53:14.960
<v Speaker 2>The Giants have allowed close to one hundred pressures, the

0:53:14.960 --> 0:53:18.759
<v Speaker 2>Commanders of ninety one pressures, and that's ninth most in

0:53:18.800 --> 0:53:19.280
<v Speaker 2>the NFL.

0:53:19.480 --> 0:53:21.239
<v Speaker 3>So here's the thing.

0:53:21.520 --> 0:53:25.480
<v Speaker 2>I will you can call me in front of the committee,

0:53:25.680 --> 0:53:27.840
<v Speaker 2>which will be a little weird because who's also the

0:53:27.920 --> 0:53:29.200
<v Speaker 2>chairperson on Wednesday?

0:53:29.280 --> 0:53:31.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, feels that fell.

0:53:31.480 --> 0:53:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you could call me in front of the committee

0:53:33.840 --> 0:53:36.080
<v Speaker 2>on Sunday night. If the Giants don't find a way

0:53:36.080 --> 0:53:40.200
<v Speaker 2>in this game, I will not only apologize for delaying

0:53:40.400 --> 0:53:44.279
<v Speaker 2>work on the Giants, I will fork them myself, which is,

0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:46.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, difficult to do. I have many friends that

0:53:46.360 --> 0:53:50.560
<v Speaker 2>are supporters of boudreamn But it will be overdue. We

0:53:50.640 --> 0:53:51.480
<v Speaker 2>shall see what happened.

0:53:51.480 --> 0:53:54.440
<v Speaker 5>What if I, at that point, just to be annoying,

0:53:54.600 --> 0:53:56.280
<v Speaker 5>was like, no, actually, now I'm going to stop.

0:53:57.040 --> 0:53:58.680
<v Speaker 3>Stop the fork. I did want to say to you,

0:53:58.719 --> 0:54:00.680
<v Speaker 3>Greg and not the Giants. You would never stopped. Oh

0:54:00.680 --> 0:54:00.880
<v Speaker 3>that's it.

0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:04.759
<v Speaker 5>Daniel Jones did practice Wednesday and Thursday, but has not

0:54:04.840 --> 0:54:10.520
<v Speaker 5>been cleared for contact, so that leads his availability in

0:54:10.600 --> 0:54:14.440
<v Speaker 5>question because there is, as far as I'm concerned, a

0:54:14.480 --> 0:54:16.600
<v Speaker 5>lot of contact in an NFL game and.

0:54:17.160 --> 0:54:18.000
<v Speaker 3>Let's let's move.

0:54:18.040 --> 0:54:19.520
<v Speaker 2>But we didn't get a chance to talk about this

0:54:19.560 --> 0:54:22.120
<v Speaker 2>as a group this Sunday night game against Buffalo Man

0:54:22.160 --> 0:54:25.400
<v Speaker 2>when when Sakon was heating up and he's running the football,

0:54:25.480 --> 0:54:27.880
<v Speaker 2>you look good, you gotta kee keep feeding into him

0:54:27.880 --> 0:54:30.120
<v Speaker 2>that Too many times they went away from that, including

0:54:30.160 --> 0:54:33.120
<v Speaker 2>on their their penultimate scoring drive when you should have

0:54:33.200 --> 0:54:35.680
<v Speaker 2>just seen they were wearing down the Buffalo Bills.

0:54:35.880 --> 0:54:39.479
<v Speaker 3>Can they do that against Washington? Uh? We shall see.

0:54:39.600 --> 0:54:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Mark we're going to close out the draft with a

0:54:41.960 --> 0:54:43.400
<v Speaker 2>double header from the Cesstag.

0:54:43.920 --> 0:54:47.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm somehow now getting two late games. That should

0:54:47.120 --> 0:54:48.840
<v Speaker 4>make for an interesting second part of the day.

0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Old sly Cestog did you have any type of game plan,

0:54:53.320 --> 0:54:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Kaiser associated, Well, well, yeah, one of.

0:54:55.800 --> 0:54:57.239
<v Speaker 4>Them is going to be given a nick shut. Yeah,

0:54:57.280 --> 0:54:59.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna say we we will handle this. We'll figure

0:54:59.520 --> 0:55:01.399
<v Speaker 4>it out, figure out behind the scenes. The listener does

0:55:01.480 --> 0:55:04.719
<v Speaker 4>not care at all. Uh, all right, Cardinals at Seahawks.

0:55:05.480 --> 0:55:08.719
<v Speaker 4>I have to admit my my uh temporary luster for

0:55:08.840 --> 0:55:12.200
<v Speaker 4>the Cardinals operation took a big hit in the second

0:55:12.239 --> 0:55:15.640
<v Speaker 4>half of that Rams game. A number of serious, uh

0:55:15.680 --> 0:55:18.600
<v Speaker 4>deficiencies were revealed. One that I think will really hurt

0:55:18.600 --> 0:55:21.040
<v Speaker 4>them in this game. They they're like the second one

0:55:21.040 --> 0:55:23.520
<v Speaker 4>of the like they're a bottom five run defense, and

0:55:23.560 --> 0:55:29.879
<v Speaker 4>it shows.

0:55:27.680 --> 0:55:29.760
<v Speaker 3>About them has been offense related.

0:55:29.840 --> 0:55:32.040
<v Speaker 4>It has been, and it's been you know all even

0:55:32.040 --> 0:55:34.040
<v Speaker 4>that has been happening for about thirty minutes out of

0:55:34.080 --> 0:55:37.200
<v Speaker 4>sixty in games, only five teams are giving up more points.

0:55:37.200 --> 0:55:38.400
<v Speaker 4>I think this is a kind of game where if

0:55:38.440 --> 0:55:41.319
<v Speaker 4>you're Seattle, it's in Seattle, they're you know, they're giving

0:55:41.400 --> 0:55:43.360
<v Speaker 4>up seven and a half I could see them covering

0:55:43.880 --> 0:55:45.480
<v Speaker 4>without too much of a headache there.

0:55:45.840 --> 0:55:47.960
<v Speaker 3>The Dobbs train has fallen off a little bit.

0:55:48.000 --> 0:55:50.960
<v Speaker 4>I think this is a great spot for Kenneth Walker,

0:55:51.719 --> 0:55:52.720
<v Speaker 4>just to run them wild.

0:55:52.920 --> 0:55:55.320
<v Speaker 3>And I the one thing I noticed about.

0:55:55.160 --> 0:55:58.839
<v Speaker 4>Seattle's injury report that there were Tyler Lockett a little

0:55:58.880 --> 0:56:01.520
<v Speaker 4>banged up, DK Metcalf a little banged up, Zach Sharbonne

0:56:01.600 --> 0:56:02.399
<v Speaker 4>a little banged up.

0:56:03.520 --> 0:56:03.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:56:04.280 --> 0:56:05.799
<v Speaker 4>I think I think in a way that may not

0:56:06.000 --> 0:56:08.040
<v Speaker 4>matter too much. If these guys can get out get

0:56:08.040 --> 0:56:10.120
<v Speaker 4>on the field to some degree. I would like to

0:56:10.120 --> 0:56:12.520
<v Speaker 4>see one last little note on their offense. Jackson Smith

0:56:12.520 --> 0:56:15.680
<v Speaker 4>and Jigba yardish totals in five games.

0:56:16.440 --> 0:56:17.279
<v Speaker 3>I was wrong about this.

0:56:17.320 --> 0:56:18.799
<v Speaker 4>I thought he would be coming in as like an

0:56:18.800 --> 0:56:22.800
<v Speaker 4>offensive rookie the year type candidate thirteen yards, thirty four, ten, five,

0:56:23.080 --> 0:56:25.480
<v Speaker 4>forty eight. I don't know, thought they were like I

0:56:25.480 --> 0:56:27.319
<v Speaker 4>thought he'd like. You seem to me like the guy

0:56:27.320 --> 0:56:29.120
<v Speaker 4>that come in and translate pretty quickly.

0:56:29.400 --> 0:56:32.480
<v Speaker 5>Now they're Passingham has been quite uneven. I think last

0:56:32.640 --> 0:56:37.080
<v Speaker 5>week against Cincinnati was a great example. Like Gino threw

0:56:37.920 --> 0:56:40.480
<v Speaker 5>five or six passes as pretty as anyone in the

0:56:40.560 --> 0:56:43.120
<v Speaker 5>league and had a ton of great completions, but when

0:56:43.160 --> 0:56:44.640
<v Speaker 5>they needed to, they couldn't get it done. They've been

0:56:44.760 --> 0:56:47.920
<v Speaker 5>very bad in situational football, red zone and third downs.

0:56:48.120 --> 0:56:50.360
<v Speaker 3>It's very important. They haven't been able to spread around.

0:56:50.360 --> 0:56:53.120
<v Speaker 5>Now they are like the Giants, a team that's lost

0:56:53.200 --> 0:56:55.840
<v Speaker 5>three or four starting offensive lineman and they haven't looked

0:56:55.880 --> 0:56:58.319
<v Speaker 5>so bad that like they're getting all the blame because

0:56:58.320 --> 0:57:00.120
<v Speaker 5>of that. But maybe that's showing up. I think think

0:57:00.120 --> 0:57:02.279
<v Speaker 5>they're going to get one of their tackles back this week.

0:57:02.360 --> 0:57:02.759
<v Speaker 3>Is that right?

0:57:02.800 --> 0:57:05.960
<v Speaker 5>I think is it Cross that's returning, not Lucas, so

0:57:06.000 --> 0:57:07.480
<v Speaker 5>that that's something.

0:57:07.760 --> 0:57:08.840
<v Speaker 3>But I see you twelves.

0:57:08.880 --> 0:57:10.960
<v Speaker 5>By the way, I happen to follow a lot of

0:57:11.840 --> 0:57:17.080
<v Speaker 5>Seahawks fans on Twitter, Theawks media and Chris and I

0:57:17.120 --> 0:57:23.120
<v Speaker 5>saw some Drew Lock chatter popping up this week, and

0:57:23.280 --> 0:57:27.200
<v Speaker 5>I just want to say, how dare you Seahawks Twitter?

0:57:27.960 --> 0:57:29.280
<v Speaker 3>How dare you?

0:57:29.480 --> 0:57:32.320
<v Speaker 4>He's played well this year, He's been an above average

0:57:32.360 --> 0:57:35.160
<v Speaker 4>starting quarterback. He played well in that game for the

0:57:35.160 --> 0:57:38.120
<v Speaker 4>most part. That pressure was on on Quick. It wasn't

0:57:38.160 --> 0:57:40.040
<v Speaker 4>a great game. I I I got on him for

0:57:40.080 --> 0:57:42.000
<v Speaker 4>holding the ball too long last week, but like their

0:57:42.040 --> 0:57:43.520
<v Speaker 4>offensive line was a disaster.

0:57:43.640 --> 0:57:46.000
<v Speaker 3>In that game, and he's been very good. If you

0:57:46.040 --> 0:57:48.680
<v Speaker 3>want Drew Locke, you can have him. You don't deserve it.

0:57:48.680 --> 0:57:51.040
<v Speaker 3>And you look at what was the face Greg that

0:57:51.120 --> 0:57:52.720
<v Speaker 3>just made on our usage. We could pull that up

0:57:52.760 --> 0:57:53.280
<v Speaker 3>on a replay.

0:57:53.320 --> 0:57:55.480
<v Speaker 4>I never want to to be around it.

0:57:55.960 --> 0:57:57.760
<v Speaker 3>Listen, this is a bit of a straw straw man.

0:57:58.120 --> 0:58:01.840
<v Speaker 3>Now this is your way to They'll they'll let you know.

0:58:01.920 --> 0:58:04.439
<v Speaker 3>There was a lot of Drew don't start, Greg.

0:58:04.440 --> 0:58:06.760
<v Speaker 4>There are massive things that happened from fan bases that

0:58:06.800 --> 0:58:09.040
<v Speaker 4>you would say have no credence and you totally ignore this.

0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:11.720
<v Speaker 4>One's stick sticking with you. Yeah, I have a higher bar?

0:58:11.880 --> 0:58:13.040
<v Speaker 3>Are they in your head? Greg?

0:58:15.360 --> 0:58:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Think about this, Greg, this is kind of smart, very

0:58:17.880 --> 0:58:20.960
<v Speaker 2>smart of you by saying, oh, people are talking about

0:58:21.080 --> 0:58:23.120
<v Speaker 2>Drew lock should be the starter, and then you could

0:58:23.120 --> 0:58:26.200
<v Speaker 2>poopoo that and bury it because obviously that's ridiculous, But

0:58:26.240 --> 0:58:28.400
<v Speaker 2>then it allows you to get away from the more

0:58:28.480 --> 0:58:32.960
<v Speaker 2>nuanced conversation, which is statistically, Gino has not been as

0:58:32.960 --> 0:58:35.280
<v Speaker 2>good this year as he was last year, and in

0:58:35.320 --> 0:58:37.880
<v Speaker 2>a big spot last week, Gino was unable to get

0:58:37.920 --> 0:58:40.640
<v Speaker 2>the job done. And I'm not saying I'm not saying

0:58:40.680 --> 0:58:43.040
<v Speaker 2>that Gino is now not the answer for them. He

0:58:43.320 --> 0:58:47.400
<v Speaker 2>is over drew locks, certainly, But I believe there's certainly

0:58:47.600 --> 0:58:49.680
<v Speaker 2>is something in play here, GREGI that we could be

0:58:49.720 --> 0:58:52.720
<v Speaker 2>back on the Geno coaster a little bit. Now, that

0:58:52.760 --> 0:58:55.320
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean it's like the Geno coaster of the old

0:58:55.720 --> 0:59:00.320
<v Speaker 2>Jet Stays. He's a better player, but maybe he's just

0:59:00.360 --> 0:59:02.400
<v Speaker 2>a little more up and down this year than last year,

0:59:02.440 --> 0:59:04.240
<v Speaker 2>which was shockingly steady for most of them.

0:59:04.400 --> 0:59:05.640
<v Speaker 3>I think you can remove.

0:59:05.720 --> 0:59:08.840
<v Speaker 5>I think if you're including the what's going on around him,

0:59:08.840 --> 0:59:10.920
<v Speaker 5>he's basically the same guy. And then I look at

0:59:10.920 --> 0:59:16.320
<v Speaker 5>the stats like completing completion percentage over expected, uh, basically

0:59:16.360 --> 0:59:20.160
<v Speaker 5>the same. He's twelfth in that EPA plus C POE composite,

0:59:20.200 --> 0:59:21.440
<v Speaker 5>like he's tenth in PFF.

0:59:21.480 --> 0:59:23.920
<v Speaker 3>He was eleventh last year. Like that's exactly to me.

0:59:24.000 --> 0:59:25.880
<v Speaker 5>Who he looks like is a guy who's not quite

0:59:25.880 --> 0:59:28.520
<v Speaker 5>a top ten quarterback, a little outside that, but he's

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<v Speaker 5>playing well.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to see how get to watch the games,

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>You just see it how the season unfolds for Seattle. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll make my next pick.

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<v Speaker 3>If you like, Oh I thought you had something to say,

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<v Speaker 3>go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>They can't go to in the division, a sneaky big game.

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<v Speaker 5>They can't well they couldn't see how.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think the Cardinals can do that. All right,

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<v Speaker 4>last game seven and a half there, this is a stinker.

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<v Speaker 4>Green Bay at Denver, Broncos getting a point in that one,

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<v Speaker 4>yelling sorry it doesn't attract me.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you lost?

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<v Speaker 2>Because A Sessler's state your football fandom and as an analyst,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't like long standing setups for teams like Aaron

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<v Speaker 2>Rodgers and the Packers drove you crazy for years, and

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<v Speaker 2>you did have a fascination with this new Packers earlier

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<v Speaker 2>in the year.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that is that by the wayside?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 4>I think, like I just I don't really trust like

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<v Speaker 4>the Jordan Love offense to do a lot down the

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<v Speaker 4>stretch where they're going to be. They feel like they're

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<v Speaker 4>merging into sort of a non story to me, that said,

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<v Speaker 4>this is a great place to get right. The Broncos

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<v Speaker 4>defense is an absolute car crash on ice. I think

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<v Speaker 4>if you get Aaron Jones is back at practice, that

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<v Speaker 4>to me is a huge factor for green Bay. They

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<v Speaker 4>have not been able to run the ball. Well, they've

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<v Speaker 4>really missed David Bacterry. But if you get Aaron Jones back,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's special. Even in his lone appearance, he had

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<v Speaker 4>a few big plays. It kind of gives Jordan Love

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<v Speaker 4>and everyone else a chance to do something. So I

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<v Speaker 4>want to see what happens there against a terrible defense.

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<v Speaker 4>To that point, Green Bay would be back on track.

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<v Speaker 4>Their last two games Jordan Love one touch down, five picks,

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<v Speaker 4>fifty one point eight rating, sixteen point five points per game.

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<v Speaker 4>As an offense, they've been They've taken seven sacks. I

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<v Speaker 4>think back Toori has a lot to do with that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, if you can't beat the Broncos, you

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<v Speaker 4>got big problems.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I agree, we all it's like couldn't beat the Raiders.

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<v Speaker 3>That to me is the same.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that's why I think they're not They're they're far

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<v Speaker 4>away from being special. But and I know you can't,

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<v Speaker 4>like you can't critique Russell Wilson. It's like he has

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<v Speaker 4>been better, et cetera. But last two games that's a

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<v Speaker 4>man no no, because I think it's like if I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's it's like, if you're gonna go out and

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<v Speaker 4>just kill Russell Wilson, then you haven't watched him play

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<v Speaker 4>like he had.

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<v Speaker 3>We did, though, we did after last week game. He

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<v Speaker 3>was terrible.

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<v Speaker 4>The last two games, he's been terrible like the rest

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<v Speaker 4>big season. Fine, I'm just saying in general, you can't

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<v Speaker 4>just say.

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<v Speaker 2>And you had bone heads on and Bruscyl saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>he's been a problem. He was the problem in the

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<v Speaker 2>second half against the Jets. He was the problem big

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<v Speaker 2>time last week. So if he's trending downward, this actually

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<v Speaker 2>could get worse for Denver, if that's possible.

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<v Speaker 4>But if he's the only thing I wonder a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit is like do you keep them like in if

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<v Speaker 4>he gets worse because you are trying to get like

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<v Speaker 4>one of the two or three college quarterbacks. I don't know, No,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that's well.

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<v Speaker 5>First of all, you start saying that they would tank

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<v Speaker 5>by not playing Jared's Didham.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that feels well, stretch. I'm not seeing Larretts Didam.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not sitting on uh, you're not sitting on Kurt

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<v Speaker 4>Warner back there.

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<v Speaker 3>I get that.

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<v Speaker 4>But like Russell Wilson the experiment, there's no way he's

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<v Speaker 4>their starter next year on any levels. So it's like,

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<v Speaker 4>what are you doing with him?

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<v Speaker 3>Now? Did you guys hear that? What you can do.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you guys hear that Jerry Judy and Courtland Sutton

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<v Speaker 2>are on the trade block?

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<v Speaker 3>You cannot wait until and they have been since like

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<v Speaker 3>Y two, K, Well.

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<v Speaker 5>They try they Here's the thing, Denver tried to trade

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<v Speaker 5>them this offseason and when no one really wanted him

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<v Speaker 5>at any reasonable price, then they had to pretend like

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<v Speaker 5>they didn't try to trade him. And this is like

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<v Speaker 5>from the Sean Payton media playbook, where look, he's got

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<v Speaker 5>more national media in his pocket than any coach since

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't done this job. He he owns the media

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<v Speaker 5>and controls the narrative around him better I would say

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<v Speaker 5>than any coach since his former boss Bill Parcells and

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<v Speaker 5>him presiding over one of the most disappointing, poorly run

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<v Speaker 5>teams in the NFL is a real test for that

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<v Speaker 5>theory and the professionalism of everyone. Ever it's correct, Like

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<v Speaker 5>I know it's getting on Sean Pitton for what about

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<v Speaker 5>He's like, I'm with.

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<v Speaker 3>You, like, up until the season, he's getting killed by

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<v Speaker 3>people right now, was getting killed in the place.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, He's a laughing bock right now. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's football fans and social media. I'm sure it's also

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<v Speaker 2>been a good coach. It's not like we're like it's king.

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<v Speaker 3>He's getting destroyed this year.

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess to the point, and I don't follow

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<v Speaker 2>it in the way that you do, Greg, So I

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<v Speaker 2>can't tell you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm curious what the names are if you want to share.

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<v Speaker 4>Them, every single one. But who's parenting for him right now?

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<v Speaker 4>Like who's saying, actually, you guys are wrong Sean Payne.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not it's not really the opinion.

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<v Speaker 5>It's more like how the news is presented, like even

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<v Speaker 5>the Judy Sutton stuff, Like there are ways that you

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<v Speaker 5>report on what's going on inside of the building. I

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<v Speaker 5>think that doesn't happen with Denver because look, I think

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<v Speaker 5>he's got everyone like I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even need to single out a name.

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<v Speaker 5>If there's someone powerful in the media, Sean Payton has

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<v Speaker 5>a favorable relationship that I think gets him better.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I mean, all right, we'll see what happens. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the other thing. It ain't twenty ten anymore, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And he might have these great relationships, but if the

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<v Speaker 2>team is terrible, and the and the roster is not

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<v Speaker 2>getting better, and they the whole thing's gonna crumble. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter who you're in bed with in the or

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<v Speaker 2>in cohoots with in the media.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh tughsich for Broncos.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a big test for Lafleur too, who's I think

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<v Speaker 5>at as discouraging a couple games as he's had since

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<v Speaker 5>his first year as coach in in Green Bay because

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<v Speaker 5>they started off okay and they've looked like, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>one of the worst offenses in the league the last

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<v Speaker 5>couple of weeks. And so here here's a matchup where

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<v Speaker 5>you should take advantage of we are getting healthier, where

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<v Speaker 5>we are coming off of by I'm not giving up

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<v Speaker 5>on this Packers team totally. I wasn't that high on

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<v Speaker 5>him to begin with, But I just think they at

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<v Speaker 5>least have a chance to develop during the season into

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<v Speaker 5>an interesting watch with an interesting team.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what I mean. And it's the real test.

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<v Speaker 3>And if Aaron Jones is playing, uh, run the rock.

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<v Speaker 2>If aj Dillon is gonna be in tandem or leading,

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<v Speaker 2>run the Rock, because you could just wear that team

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<v Speaker 2>down in the second half.

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<v Speaker 3>You see it every week, all right? That is the draft.

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<v Speaker 3>Anything else to hit before we say goodbye?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we were waiting to see if Mark was gonna

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<v Speaker 4>flip off his lock, but did.

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<v Speaker 3>You have something he didn't do it? Well, this is

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<v Speaker 3>the moment. This is the moment.

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<v Speaker 4>Mark, all right, I'm gonna do it, get the locks.

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<v Speaker 4>If I hadn't brought it to this now you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I've been mulling this for a while. Yeah, defensive, Look,

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<v Speaker 4>I do think one thing with the locks. I just

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<v Speaker 4>definitely like I tried to not overthink it, but of

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<v Speaker 4>course I one warning.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we've all been there, right, you jump out of

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<v Speaker 2>a lock, You're almost going through double the pain because

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<v Speaker 2>you're tracking that first game. Should I have locked it?

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<v Speaker 2>What if that team wins then the new team loses?

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I mean you are just living through it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going through war in your mind. And now we

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<v Speaker 2>throw it to Mark.

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<v Speaker 4>It's yeah, decision twenty twenty us about that situation, which

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<v Speaker 4>you know we've been through. It's more about the show

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<v Speaker 4>and what I think creates an element of spice. And

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, you know, Greg wouldn't go take on the

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<v Speaker 4>West Brothers a week ago, which was a little suspect

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I was that that wasn't that wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>thinking about the show.

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<v Speaker 5>Why would I be taking a team that I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>feel that strong was gonna win, and I'm glad I

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<v Speaker 5>didn't because by the way they lost, although they.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't all your media people that are all friends and

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<v Speaker 2>love Geno Smith, that felt like a time to get

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<v Speaker 2>behind the Great Seattle Empire.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you arguing that I should have taken a loss.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it clearly was hindsight, it was the right move.

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<v Speaker 2>But but point being as a showman. As a showman, I.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you know, we we we've enjoyed covering these

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<v Speaker 4>Monday night games night after night, yes, or week after week,

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<v Speaker 4>and uh, of course I'm gonna take Greg in a

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<v Speaker 4>little lock up.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Sunday night. Then oh we'll we cover Sunday.

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<v Speaker 4>Night too, but it's week we come back into the

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<v Speaker 4>studio to cover Sunday night after we do the whole show,

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<v Speaker 4>and like, uh, I'm gonna take the Dolphins. I I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's you know, a little suspect, but I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>And in fact, uh kind of tying it all together

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<v Speaker 2>when my nine year old son Jack and we were

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<v Speaker 2>going through the schedule and I was like, who should

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<v Speaker 2>I lock this week? And you know, oh, I was

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<v Speaker 2>talking about rightly, but I was trying to explain it

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<v Speaker 2>to him. He kept on pointing at the Dolphins. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I got to pick the Dolphins, and again I had

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<v Speaker 2>too much respect, uh for Philly's operation and being pissed

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<v Speaker 2>quite frankly after what happened in week six to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think they will.

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<v Speaker 4>There's another thing, like, there's another scene I can imagine

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<v Speaker 4>that doesn't mean this will happen where it's like, uh oh,

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<v Speaker 4>Eagles back against the backs, up against the wall big time.

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<v Speaker 4>Now two straight losses.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what this is? Everyone acts like the Dolphins

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<v Speaker 3>can't go on the road and handle the business.

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<v Speaker 2>Miamis if you win a lock off with Rosenthal, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean right takes you out here.

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<v Speaker 3>He's up three, and that's a tough spot. Right you

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<v Speaker 3>take him.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a major momentum swing. And I would not

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<v Speaker 2>bet against you to win the whole thing if the

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<v Speaker 2>take care of business on.

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<v Speaker 5>Sunday, although I would also not, you know, bet against

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<v Speaker 5>an extremely dark Sessler not even enjoying the Brown's win

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<v Speaker 5>if the Browns happened to win early and then.

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<v Speaker 3>This falls apart. The news for us though, is that sports.

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<v Speaker 2>Die.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, that was not from today's show. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't wish death upon it. That was when I was

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<v Speaker 4>disrespected before the you know, I'd come. I drove across

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<v Speaker 4>town to get to that committee meeting, and you're not

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<v Speaker 4>even suggesting my totally believe you.

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<v Speaker 2>The mask slipped a little bit, and that was an

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<v Speaker 2>unfortunate oversight by the committee.

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<v Speaker 4>And again the committee, No, it was exactly, it was

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<v Speaker 4>completely organic.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be tired and feathered in front of the community

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunday night if the Giants make me look bad,

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<v Speaker 2>so I have a little skin in the game, a

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<v Speaker 2>little more.

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<v Speaker 3>Than I thought actually ahead of Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you to everybody for watching again Thursday Night Football

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<v Speaker 2>with Gregie Rosenthal coming up later on Thursday and then

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday the Flagship Program.

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<v Speaker 3>And NFL Plus this week. Check it out Heat the

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