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Speaker 1: They around the NFL podcast He's done locking up the.

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Speaker 2: Charger from the Chris Wesling podcast studio.

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Speaker 3: It's around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: My name is Dan hansis got heroes here, Greg Rosenthal

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Speaker 2: and Mark Sessler. Yeah, I would say in our locks

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Speaker 2: competition that locking up the Chargers is just asking for trouble.

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Speaker 2: Whether you're a fan or enjoy their brand of football,

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Speaker 2: it's not. It's not predictable on any.

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Speaker 4: Level, right, But you know, I appreciate what Jason's attempting

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Speaker 4: to do there Jason Zumwelt, But like the actual facts

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Speaker 4: are that I promised to never lock them again this season.

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Speaker 3: If Greg I would have, I would happily do it.

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Speaker 5: I'll be curious see if anyone dares lock against them

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Speaker 5: this week. I feel like that's that's the most Uh,

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Speaker 5: that's the biggest point spread you could lock.

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Speaker 3: So we'll see interesting pick against just.

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Speaker 2: Maybe when he's playing Patrick Mahomes they would, but it's

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Speaker 2: been a tough matchup for him. Yes, this is a

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Speaker 2: I don't know if another week will tie it. Perhaps

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I don't remember how it works, but

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Speaker 2: there won't be another week that has more teams unbuy

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Speaker 2: than a Week seven. Cincinnati, Dallas, Tennessee Jets, Carolina, Houston

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Speaker 2: all off this week, so we have a fewer games

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Speaker 2: to get to.

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Speaker 3: I want to just throw a couple things out there.

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Speaker 2: First of all, injuries, you're kind of going through the game,

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Speaker 2: you're thinking about what's going on.

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Speaker 3: In the league right now.

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Speaker 2: Injuries feel like and I know injuries are always a

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Speaker 2: big part of our league, but I counted up eight teams,

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Speaker 2: that's a quarter of the league have a major injury

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Speaker 3: Which it's early for that.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing worse than dealing with an injury at the

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Speaker 2: quarterback position. It can kind of take down a whole operation.

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Speaker 2: In some cases it has. There are also as we

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Speaker 2: enter Week seven boys, fifteen teams. Was my eldest son,

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Speaker 2: Jack hopped into bed with me this morning and I

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Speaker 2: was looking at the standings and I was just going

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Speaker 2: see like everything.

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Speaker 3: So, oh, you could do that. The Deeper Metrics itemized it.

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Speaker 2: I guess you could call it that, and then it

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Speaker 2: was the entire league one through thirty two, and then

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Speaker 2: it caught my eye. There are fifteen teams, nearly half

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Speaker 2: the league that are either three and two, three and

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Speaker 2: three or two and three, So parody is as strong

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Speaker 2: as ever. Things are wide open, and you throw in

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Speaker 2: the injuries to the all over the league, including out

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Speaker 2: the quarterback position, it's a wide open season.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's exactly what the NFL wants the mission accomplished

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Speaker 4: on the battle.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I guess it's what we want. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I would say last year the one thing, but because

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Speaker 4: I always feel like, oh, there's way more injuries this year,

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Speaker 4: and then you if you dig down, it's like one

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Speaker 4: percent more. But like last year, and you did this

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Speaker 4: with QB Index with the end you have to rank

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Speaker 4: every quarterback that appeared in a game, and they were

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Speaker 4: like forty eight of them. So it's like, I think

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Speaker 4: we're on pace to hit that again. Basically we're gonna

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Speaker 2: Yeah, whether the data backs up that there are more

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Speaker 2: injuries this year, I don't know, it doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 2: It's more just like it's just a reminder of how

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Speaker 2: that is such a major factor in these seasons.

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Speaker 3: You could go into a season feeling good about your.

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Speaker 2: Roster, but it is the depth of your roster that

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Speaker 4: It's also the week where I mean, and I've been

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Speaker 4: barely tracking the fantasy league. I mean then, but there's

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Speaker 4: a lot of squawking about, like a bunch of teams

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Speaker 4: on buys and a bunch of injuries already, You've got

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Speaker 4: like Joe Fabeats starting at running back at.

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Speaker 2: This I'm gonna this is my favorite week of the year,

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Speaker 2: by the way, So we got my my favorite team

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Speaker 2: on buy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm having a totally lost fantasy year.

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Speaker 2: I'm already out of contention essentially, which thinks, but also

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Speaker 2: there's a freedom to that. There is, So I got

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Speaker 2: there no jets to worry about. I got no fantasy

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Speaker 2: like thing to like obsess over. Just watch them football

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Speaker 2: like the old days, like a real American, like.

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Speaker 5: A true American, and then get my music now, and

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Speaker 5: then go into a studio and honk about it for

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Speaker 3: Can't wait.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, these teams and coaches take alcoholics.

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Speaker 3: They want to make a week.

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Speaker 5: How there are six teams on buying week thirteen deep

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Speaker 5: into the year, so that's'll be a nice little hmm

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Speaker 5: aniebye for us.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's get into it.

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Speaker 2: On Wednesday's show, in which we forked multiple teams, we

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Speaker 2: previewed the Island games, the primetime games. Today, oh till

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Speaker 2: later tonight, we're gonna have the recap of Thursday night football.

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Speaker 5: Remind me of the game, Greg, it's Jack Saints. Hopefully

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Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence plays.

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Speaker 2: Game time decision trending towards as we record this, and

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Speaker 2: Greg will be on that call with a special guest.

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Speaker 3: So that's coming up later tonight.

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Speaker 2: But let's dig in now to the rest of the games,

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Speaker 2: and the first overall pick of the week, presented by

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Speaker 2: DraftKings does go to Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 3: Not Greg Rosenstein.

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Speaker 4: No, No Bolt the one, the only I got lucky again.

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Speaker 3: Greg Rosenthal. No, there are.

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Speaker 4: More, you know what with there, I might be the

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Speaker 4: only one with triple G, only one on the planet.

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Speaker 4: I would guarantee you that's not the case.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I've googled, I don't know. It's possible.

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Speaker 3: There's not another Dan Hansis. I can tell you that there.

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Speaker 4: Is a Mark Cecil with a sn and I think

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Speaker 4: he's like a chef on the East Coast.

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Speaker 3: Kill him. Yeah, he's got to go, he must go.

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Speaker 5: I'm taking Lions Ravens. Let's you know, remove Donner dram

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Speaker 3: What a game.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we already talked one of the games of

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Speaker 5: the year's Dolphins Eagles. But there's two games this week, Dan,

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Speaker 5: involving two teams ranked in the top seven DVOA on

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Speaker 5: the season, and that's your number two Detroit Lions right

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Speaker 5: little numerical support to the feeling that I've had that

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Speaker 5: this Ravens team is better than the dumb mistakes that

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Speaker 5: other teams to move the ball is the profile of

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Speaker 5: a really good team. And it's to show me something

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Speaker 3: That's how I start.

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Speaker 5: Both of these teams have been able to run the

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Speaker 3: So who's going to be tougher? Upfront?

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Speaker 4: I love the idea of like Rokwan Smith, who is

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Speaker 4: a big friend of our show, for various reasons dating

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Speaker 4: back to last season and Patrick Queen end of the show.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he was the subject of a much debated

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Speaker 4: Yeh, but he's been like that trade, which you know,

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Speaker 4: He's been great for them and I think he's made

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Speaker 3: Good a lot, a little bit of a flash playing focus.

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Speaker 4: he should be in the Defensive Player of the Year. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And then they got a great offensive lines.

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Speaker 4: So now I'm like Jared Goff is like actually on

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Speaker 3: Playing the best football of his entire career and.

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Speaker 4: Feels like he's PFF's number one quarterback, very similar to

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Speaker 2: We all owe Jared goffin apology because I can't remember

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Speaker 2: another player that reached the heights that he did in

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Speaker 3: Go check the tape of this podcast.

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Speaker 2: Maybe one of us was into it, but it all

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Speaker 2: seemed like that's Stafford trade. He was the guy that

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Speaker 2: guy that would simply serve as the bridge till the Lions,

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Speaker 2: you know, hit the reboot the quarterback position, and instead

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Speaker 2: It just hasn't really happened very often in Detroit.

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Speaker 5: And this is one week where it could. Because I'm

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Speaker 4: They have eleven different players with a sack that's no team,

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Speaker 4: No team can touch that. I you know, I think

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Speaker 4: though with Detroit with no David Montgomery, Jamiir Gibbs is

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Speaker 4: still banged up. It sounds like he could potentially play,

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Speaker 3: We'll see about I.

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Speaker 5: Think it's a Jamiir Gibbs game. I think they're gonna

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what, let's have a big Jamiir

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Speaker 2: Gibbs game because they drafted him to be an immediate

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Speaker 2: Almost talked about the top of the show. A lot

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Speaker 2: of quarterback injuries. Almost every team we're going to talk

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Speaker 2: about has a position group that's kind of under siege.

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Speaker 2: For the Lions, it is that running back room with injuries.

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Speaker 2: That's that is a good game, Greg, It's a great game.

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Speaker 5: They're three point favorites, by the way, the Baltimore Ravens

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Speaker 2: That feels that seems like a little overly respectful, but.

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Speaker 5: It's basically saying two even ish teams. I think that's

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Speaker 5: that's right. But you Baltimore feels like, let's pick it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I like the Lions. I'm taking Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Detroit. I think Ravens and we were

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Speaker 2: we saw it up close in London. They're red zone

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Speaker 4: I came really close to locking the Lions. I think

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Speaker 5: It's very intriguing. I don't want to beat a you know,

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Speaker 3: Of the NFL.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's move on. This is an easy one.

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Speaker 2: I believe this could have easily been the first overall pick.

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Speaker 2: The Los Angeles Chargers traveling to Arrowhead to face the

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Speaker 2: Ravens game forty three. That feels alright to me forty

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Speaker 2: on the show Wednesday. Mikole Hardman joins the Chiefs or

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Speaker 3: A shootout and win if it comes to that.

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Speaker 5: I think they're not ready for that now. But I

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Speaker 5: rather Dan like, would get thirty two points in this

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Speaker 3: Someone's got to get taken out. Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I think Dan yesterday thought, well, Michael Hardman, fine, but

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Speaker 3: I don't. The trade to me feels but they do.

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Speaker 3: But that this is not going to solve their problems.

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Speaker 3: I'm four.

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Speaker 4: This is their defense. I mean, that's like the Chiefs defense,

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Speaker 5: I think they were, I hear what you're saying. They

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Speaker 5: But it's kind of like because their normal stuff doesn't work.

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Speaker 3: Well, they are working through that.

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Speaker 4: But it's like, I think their defense is one of

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Speaker 5: You mentioned the rest tough break here for the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: In the in the biggest road division games, in these.

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Speaker 3: Let's see. Let me see if I can find it.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 2: Andy Reid with four plus days of rest advantage as

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Speaker 4: That just makes me like, imagine him like taking long,

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Speaker 2: And some of this is he's had great head coach

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Speaker 2: What did you take from the Herbert performance on Monday night?

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Speaker 5: I thought people got a little carried away wanting to

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Speaker 5: I thought he played a pretty good three quarters. Certainly

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Speaker 5: didn't end that game well really, I thought he missed

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Speaker 3: I don't know like.

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Speaker 5: Why the glove, on the offhand would make that big

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Speaker 3: Who's saying that? Well, just like that.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't seem like that's the reason why, because he

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Speaker 5: The thing that is Herbert's superpower, though, I think makes

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Speaker 3: Ones that usually.

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Speaker 5: I give this Chiefs linebacker group a lot of credit.

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Speaker 3: I really like them.

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Speaker 5: Nick Bolton, Drew Tranquil when he's out there, Willie Gate like,

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Speaker 5: They're pretty good at every level of their defense. You

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Speaker 3: Those guys have been. They generate big takeaway right, Bolton

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Speaker 3: And I'm really interested in here.

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Speaker 3: That's a tough name for me.

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Speaker 2: Check he's been good and sat it right. He has

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Speaker 2: But again they need that. They need somebody else and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I mean one.

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Speaker 4: I went down that road with Shaq Barrett though that

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Speaker 3: Your analysis being that he will that good?

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Speaker 4: Well, it was that all whenever you get these guys

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Speaker 5: You thought he would be a bad free agent signing. No,

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Speaker 5: I believe it was your thing. And then he was

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Speaker 4: That's tilting the accuracy completely.

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Speaker 3: I believe he was seen as a key difference maker.

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Speaker 3: I just don't buy these. It's these one game explosions.

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Speaker 3: You brought it up. That's fair. Why did I do that?

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Speaker 3: All Right? The third overall pick goes to Mark and alright, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's easy for me.

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Speaker 4: I probably would have taken this at number two and

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Speaker 4: I'll start here.

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Speaker 2: Hey, nobody is nobody's gonna fry you, huh for taking

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Speaker 3: This is good. Number three? Now, Mark, this is a

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Speaker 3: safe Oh yeah, it's great. No one's gonna judge you.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know what, but your favorite quarterback plays for

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Speaker 5: the other team though, you know, back in the day

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Speaker 3: But Minshew.

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Speaker 4: You know, if they get the version of Gardner Minshew

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Speaker 4: good their defense has been. They have not been generating takeaways.

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Speaker 4: I think they have four on the year, which is

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Speaker 3: Good they've been.

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Speaker 4: But Mint that version of Minshew, It's like, I feel

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Speaker 3: I don't remember ever seeing him that bad.

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Speaker 4: No, he looked awful, and that was the Jaguars defense

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Speaker 3: Him. He made a lot of bad decisions, yeah, and

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Speaker 5: It's almost like he was like, I'm gonna show the

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Speaker 3: They're happy.

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Speaker 4: They seem happy to have moved on to a different

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Speaker 4: it depends. I think for me, what happens a quarterback,

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Speaker 4: co Mary Cooper said he will He's going to practice today.

443
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Speaker 2: So the Shawn Watson UH currently dealing with of a

444
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Speaker 2: mystery injury later now revealed as a micro tear of

445
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Speaker 2: the rotator cuff, and rap Sheet reported in the past

446
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Speaker 2: hour that Watson is practicing today Thursday, for the first

447
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Speaker 2: time in a while. Per oc Alex Van Help, confirming

448
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Speaker 2: a report from Amari Cooper.

449
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Mark Cooper, like, I kind of appreciate a player coming.

450
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Speaker 4: Is it a teammates, don't know, he's just giving us

451
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Speaker 4: information like first and information about his teammate.

452
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Speaker 3: Ahh, I got a big scoop. Yeah, gets shipped right

453
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Speaker 3: into an immediate career. You know.

454
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Speaker 4: For me, it's like they this is a still a

455
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Speaker 4: Browns offense that I think is quite suspicious. Uh, they

456
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Speaker 4: you don't have Nick Chubb. Jerome Ford helped out a

457
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Speaker 4: little bit.

458
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Speaker 3: Last week. They survived with PJ.

459
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Speaker 4: Walker playing a really bad game at quarterback. Not a

460
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Speaker 4: bad spot if to Sean Watson plays, He's not doesn't

461
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Speaker 4: sound healthy to me. But if he plays, like, how

462
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Speaker 4: about show up for once? Show up for once, because

463
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Speaker 4: I think the defense can absolutely just take care of it.

464
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Speaker 3: A Colts offense that like with Jonathan Taylor, like he

465
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Speaker 3: needs to show up at some point.

466
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Speaker 5: Well, Watson had his best game I think as a

467
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Speaker 5: Brown on the game. He got hurt, so can he

468
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Speaker 5: keep that going. It's against the Colts defense. We mentioned

469
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Speaker 5: on Wednesday, Grover Stewart's now out for six games. To me,

470
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,960
Speaker 5: that was the one thing that had a chance to

471
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Speaker 5: make this defense special. It's definitely not special otherwise, but

472
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 5: they had a couple good defensive tackles. It's just hard

473
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Speaker 5: to imagine this Gardner Minshew offense going up against the

474
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Speaker 5: best defense in the league. The way that the Jags

475
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 5: played the Colts last week was straight up disrespectful. It

476
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Speaker 5: was crazy. It didn't matter what formation the Colts did.

477
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Speaker 5: I think it was it Derek Klassen on Twitter put this,

478
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 5: put this out there that you could they were putting

479
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Speaker 5: out four wide receivers and it didn't matter, like the

480
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:45,840
Speaker 5: Jaguars were just staying in there. Maybe it was Nate

481
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,879
Speaker 5: Tice in their base formation and basically saying we're not

482
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Speaker 5: gonna let you run the ball no matter what we

483
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Speaker 5: will you can put howmever many receivers are out there,

484
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Speaker 5: and we'll just leave our cornerbacks on an island. This

485
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Speaker 5: is Jacksonville. I mean their cornerbacks. It's not the Browns

486
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Speaker 5: by any means. It's like, well, we'll give you one

487
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Speaker 5: on ones everywhere, but no matter what, we're not gonna

488
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Speaker 5: let you run. And we don't think your wide receivers

489
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Speaker 5: can beat us, and we don't think Gardner Minshew can

490
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Speaker 5: beat us. And you know what, they were absolutely right,

491
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Speaker 5: and so like, why wouldn't the Browns play that way?

492
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Speaker 5: Why wouldn't every team play that way? Because Michael Pittman's

493
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Speaker 5: the only guy that you really worry about, and you

494
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Speaker 5: don't worry about Gardner Minshew being special making special throws.

495
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Speaker 5: And by the way, like the Browns lock you down

496
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Speaker 5: on the outside better than any.

497
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Speaker 3: Team in the league. It is a tough match.

498
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Speaker 4: I have a stat that Greg will absolutely not care about.

499
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Speaker 3: Okay, let's hear it. We know where how Greg Greg

500
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Speaker 3: is in this world. I'm in your head, on my head.

501
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Speaker 3: It's just the first thing that came to my mind

502
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Speaker 3: when I read this right.

503
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Speaker 2: When people think back to past conversations, that doesn't mean

504
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Speaker 2: that you live in their head.

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Speaker 4: It is sumptuous exactly living in your head you are not,

506
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Speaker 4: first of all.

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Speaker 3: That's that's what they always say. Right now, So it

508
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Speaker 3: makes me feel better, just I know. It's fine.

509
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 4: Fewest yards allowed through five games in a season by

510
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Speaker 4: a team since the nineteen seventy one Cults, that is

511
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Speaker 4: the Browns. I mean, I threw that out there on

512
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,360
Speaker 4: Sunday night the last time. But remember when I was saying,

513
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Speaker 4: I thought this, like the nineteen ninety four Bill Belichick defense,

514
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 4: it's better than that so far. The last time they

515
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Speaker 4: finished with the number one total defense, the Browns nineteen

516
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Speaker 4: fifty five. There have been a lot of years of

517
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 4: bad defense, and it's like, I think the Niners game

518
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 4: last week was not all Cleveland's defense entirely. There was

519
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 4: some weather involved and some other stuff. But like when

520
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 4: they put it on teams like they really do it.

521
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Speaker 4: And so I'm gonna know because I'm telling you why

522
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Speaker 4: I'm saying that, because I'm taking the Cleveland Browns, I

523
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Speaker 4: think for the first time in a really long time,

524
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Speaker 4: and I'm locking them up against the cults on the road.

525
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Speaker 4: They're giving up two point five points, two and a

526
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Speaker 4: half points.

527
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Speaker 2: Very nerve wracking for me and Rosenthal. Why locking up

528
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Speaker 2: the Brownies. You haven't done it a lot.

529
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Speaker 4: I didn't see a lot of good luck opportunities.

530
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Speaker 5: We get dark Sessler if they blow it against the

531
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Speaker 5: Minshew And that line is probably gonna change if Watson plays,

532
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Speaker 5: which at this point, if he's practicing, signs are pointing up.

533
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Speaker 2: It's actually gone up to three already. Why practice, He's

534
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 2: got to be feeling somewhat better to be practicing. So yeah,

535
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Speaker 2: all right, that's I think it's a solid look. I

536
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 2: think the Browns are in good position in that game.

537
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Speaker 2: Let's see. All right, one more Marks sneaks back to you.

538
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Speaker 3: All right.

539
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 4: I like to watch disasters just unfold before my eyes,

540
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 4: and I am Maggie.

541
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Speaker 3: You like blowouts you can finish your notes with in

542
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 3: quarter two? Is what you're like to see.

543
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Speaker 2: Well, he's got the Brownies, and he wants to keep

544
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Speaker 2: the focus where it needs in this case.

545
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think you've sent some passion around my

546
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 4: distaste and or almost actually joy for what's occurring to

547
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Speaker 4: the patriots.

548
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Speaker 3: Weird because he wrote the Belichick letters, Yeah, what is

549
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Speaker 3: that about.

550
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Speaker 2: Let's let's let's sit there for a second, because I

551
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 2: noticed there was a real venom. And this is coming

552
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Speaker 2: from a guy that adores this type of heat on

553
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Speaker 2: the Patriots. But I sense you talking about the Pats

554
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Speaker 2: and and Belichick in a way with a hissing sense.

555
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Speaker 2: What where is that coming from? Why are you so

556
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Speaker 2: mad about the Patriots? And again, I'm not complaining.

557
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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I love it. I'm just curious.

558
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Speaker 4: I agree that it's curious to me too, because like overall,

559
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Speaker 4: I have, like Bill Belichick's one of my like kind

560
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 4: of overall favorite NFL figures of all time. But I

561
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Speaker 4: kind of like they've also quietly been living in this

562
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Speaker 4: like dream carpet ride for decades, and it's like you

563
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Speaker 4: just it got normalized and it's different and it's new

564
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Speaker 4: and it's interesting, and it's like if the if Belichi

565
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Speaker 4: truly is the greatest coach and he has a chance

566
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Speaker 4: to continue this job beyond this year, it's like I'm

567
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Speaker 4: more interested to see how he gets out of this

568
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Speaker 4: mess than the how often he.

569
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Speaker 5: Won with I mean the carpet ride ended five years ago.

570
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Speaker 5: Five years did pretty long time.

571
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Speaker 4: I did, but like they but you'd argue that they

572
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Speaker 4: they were a playoff two.

573
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Speaker 3: I mean like that, like maybe mac Jones work. They were,

574
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Speaker 3: they were hanging around nine wins.

575
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Speaker 2: This is different the second As I said at the time,

576
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Speaker 2: they weren't special anymore.

577
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Speaker 3: Now they're bad. They're bad. How bad will they be?

578
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Speaker 2: This seems like a chance for them to I don't

579
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Speaker 2: mean they're back in July and in general in the past,

580
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Speaker 2: even post Brady, when they're in their Bill they they

581
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: they can be competitive. But this is the same team

582
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Speaker 2: that got shut out by the Saints a couple of

583
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Speaker 2: weeks ago.

584
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Speaker 3: And they're giving up ninety raising the hand that doesn't

585
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Speaker 3: I call him.

586
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Speaker 5: Mark has not actually drafted the game yet or revealed

587
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Speaker 5: what the game is, so I think that is a

588
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 5: good point of it.

589
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Speaker 4: It is Bills at Patriots and the Patriots at home

590
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 4: are getting nine points. I don't know if that's ever

591
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Speaker 4: happened to Build Belichick in New England. Maybe maybe be

592
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Speaker 4: before Tom Brady. They were a bad team. Then they

593
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 4: were a bad team. And this is like another little

594
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Speaker 4: thing that stood out to me. Where is this little thing?

595
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Speaker 3: Hold on?

596
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Speaker 4: You have to go back to the nineteen ninety two

597
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 4: Dick McPherson run New England Patriots. Greg you remember those years,

598
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 4: just a disaster for an offense.

599
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 5: This, the year where he won five or six games,

600
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Speaker 5: was actually one of the best, like Patriots seasons.

601
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Speaker 3: This was not that year. This was not that year.

602
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Speaker 4: I remember that with some spicy comacks and he's crying

603
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 4: on the sideline. You know, probably wish he still was

604
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 4: at Syracuse, But I get that. I don't for me

605
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 4: a little bit too. It's like the Bills escaped that

606
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 4: Giants game. They escaped. I think if that call doesn't happen,

607
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 4: if Darren Waller gets a call on the end like that,

608
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 4: the Bills are asking a huge question about the Bills.

609
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 4: It's like Josh Allen, he'd been dominant in stretches, he

610
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 4: leads the league and completion percentage. He's also been I

611
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 4: think in that Giant scheme, like he left some passes

612
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 4: on the field and like seem to not read certain

613
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Speaker 4: wide open guys. And it's like outside of Stepan Digs,

614
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Speaker 4: it's like it's hard to really say he's connected with

615
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Speaker 4: someone on a consistent basis. Miss James Cook on what

616
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 4: could have been a big touchdown a week ago. So

617
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Speaker 4: I think it's like, if you can't do it in

618
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Speaker 4: this game, Buffalo, I mean, this is a place to

619
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Speaker 4: go flex your muscles. And I think it's there's some

620
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Speaker 4: added juice to it with being New England, get right, because.

621
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Speaker 3: I I for a couple of weeks I.

622
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Speaker 4: See the Bills as like a dominant operation and then

623
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Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't don't trust them.

624
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Speaker 3: They're a weird too.

625
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Speaker 2: They're like a team that you kind of know what's

626
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Speaker 2: coming by the end of the first quarter, like they're

627
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Speaker 2: even going to just put.

628
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Speaker 3: It on a team or they're just a little bit

629
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Speaker 3: out of sync.

630
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Speaker 2: And they did to their credit, after what was a

631
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Speaker 2: woeful first half against the Giants. They had a couple

632
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: of long touchdown drives in the second half and the

633
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 2: defense didn't exactly light the world on fire either, and

634
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 2: they were able to hold off at the very end there.

635
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: So they were very fortunate to get out of there

636
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 2: with a win. And if nothing else, I guess it's

637
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: a reminder to that team that you know, you can't

638
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 2: just walk into any building and say where the Bills

639
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 2: and just roll because look at it, it's almost beat you.

640
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: In primetime that would have been a huge amos rs.

641
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 2: They own this matchup.

642
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 5: These are not the Giant I trust them to destroy

643
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 5: the Patriots way more than I just, you know, against

644
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 5: the Giants, who there was you know, a lot of

645
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 5: coaching crossover there in terms of you know, knowledge and

646
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 5: dable and it just is an unfamiliar matchup versus a

647
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 5: team that you ended. Whatever was left that was special

648
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 5: to me, truly ended at the end of the.

649
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Speaker 3: Patriots playoff season.

650
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Speaker 5: Actually like that, even though they made the playoffs that season,

651
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,239
Speaker 5: the fact that they lost forty seven to seventeen in

652
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 5: the playoffs and didn't stop Josh Allen one single time

653
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Speaker 5: in that game or the regular season game before late

654
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 5: in the regular season. This defense this year, which I

655
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 5: thought had a chance to be very good, is not

656
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 5: gonna be good because of injuries partly and because it's

657
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 5: just not happening for some of their young players up

658
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 5: front really growing in a way that I expected. But

659
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 5: injuries are a huge part of it. They have twenty

660
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Speaker 5: players on their injury report this week.

661
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 3: That is almost half the roster.

662
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 5: That is outrageous, and like seven or eight of them

663
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 5: are just out out there. They've got the thing where

664
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 5: like they can't even field a normal in actives list

665
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 5: because they've got more players that are out than they

666
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 5: have in actives, and then they've got another fifteen guys

667
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 5: on the injury report.

668
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 4: So it's so good luck with that the real disadvantage

669
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 4: for me this week.

670
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 5: Let's see something out of von Miller though or no,

671
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's gonna happen this week, but

672
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 5: like I think it's just something to watch throughout the

673
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 5: course of the season that he hasn't not only been

674
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 5: playing a full complement of snaps, but just doesn't even

675
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 5: look remotely like von Miller, which is, you know, always

676
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 5: a risk when you're a thirty four year old coming

677
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 5: up off of it.

678
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 3: It's fair to ask the question, greg E.

679
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break and when we come back,

680
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: we'll get back to the draft. All right, welcome back.

681
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: It comes back to me and I will grab a

682
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: game that I feel like is gonna be interesting. The

683
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons are traveling to Tampa to face the Buccaneers,

684
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 2: who are getting two and a half. Do we have

685
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,959
Speaker 2: the Baker sound, Yeah, let's listen to Baker, who you know.

686
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 2: The Lions game last week was a tough one. I

687
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: think they I think internally Tampa entering that game three

688
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: and one, I believe saw it as a measuring stick

689
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: game and they did not measure up.

690
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of frustration. Let's listen to Baker.

691
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 3: We sucked today. I sucked today. We sucked today. It

692
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 3: was awful. If we play like that, we're gonna lose

693
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 3: every time.

694
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 6: So I mean, the defense and special teams did an

695
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 6: amazing job yet again, and offense, we just need to

696
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 6: pick her up.

697
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 3: Okay, I like it. Yeah, same, I like it.

698
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 2: They're owning up to it. And and they did leave

699
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: plays on the field. Baker did not play very well,

700
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: but they also you know, they just missed a couple ones,

701
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: very frustrating performance. He missed the young kid Palmer a

702
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: couple of times. The Evans hookup wasn't there. Godwin was

703
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: the only player they really had any type of chemistry.

704
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: And their screen game, which is an important part of

705
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: their offense, they couldn't get that going. And a lot

706
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: of credits got to go to Detroit and what they've

707
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: been able to do all year, which has become a

708
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: well balanced team, and they and they messed, They messed

709
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: with Tampa now they get the Falcons, and the Falcons

710
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: to me have been a disappointing team boys on really

711
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball, and I just feel like.

712
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 5: Too disagree with you there. But defense has been solid.

713
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 4: But you're right on offense, yes, okay, I mean could

714
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 4: put it what we were saying a month ago.

715
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 3: What were we saying? What is their DVOA? Overall?

716
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 5: It's buried twenty fifth? For sure, They're not They're not great.

717
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 5: I just didn't expect much on defense.

718
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 4: They've been on defense on third down like red zone.

719
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 3: To pick their average, which for them is better.

720
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: I believe Tampa at home is in a very good

721
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: spot here against Atlanta, and I keep on thinking that

722
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: we're gonna eventually get the bottoming out game at the

723
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: quarterback position for Atlanta where Arthur Smith, instead of these

724
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: constant cuts to the sideline and he's stroking his mustache

725
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: and frustration, he actually does something about it. I think

726
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: it's gonna happen after this game. I'm locking up the

727
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Buccaneer, which I didn't think I would ever

728
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: do this season, lock up a Baker Mayfield team, but

729
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: I like what I've seen from the Bucks overall, I

730
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: like him at home and I like him.

731
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 3: I liked hearing Baker and that he's pissed and they're

732
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 3: looking to take it out on something. I'm with you.

733
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 4: I almost locked this too, and I'd see this as

734
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 4: a low scoring game that allows the Bucks to magnify

735
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 4: their strengths. They are third against the run in terms

736
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 4: of EPA six feuis yard rushing yards. Well, listen to

737
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 4: some of these totals. This year, Vikings held to forty

738
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 4: one yards of the ground. Bad rushing team Bears sixty seven,

739
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 4: Saints seventy.

740
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: The Lions forty.

741
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 4: I know they were without some guys, but it's like,

742
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 4: this is what they do. Vidavea, as much as Baker Mayfield,

743
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 4: is kind of the guy in this game that I

744
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 4: think can take Atlanta, who for all the whistling and

745
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 4: I did a lot of it about what their identity

746
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 4: would be this year, it's like the fourteenth best rushing team.

747
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 4: They've not been that great at that and they put

748
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 4: Desmond Ridder into a situation at times if you stop

749
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 4: the run where this guy that you just want to

750
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 4: not make mistakes has been making mistakes the last couple

751
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 4: of games and starting to turn the ball over, and

752
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 4: I don't love the situation for the Falcons, and I'm

753
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 4: with you. I'm with you, Dan, I feel like this

754
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 4: could be where the trigger because this is a good

755
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 4: roster and the defense is solid and you've got parts,

756
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 4: and it's like, why not try Taylor Heineke if you're

757
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 4: going to get the same results with Ritter.

758
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 3: I hear that one good game in a bunch of

759
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 3: bad games.

760
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 5: I hear all of that. I think you guys are right.

761
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,959
Speaker 5: I think last week kind of was a bottoming out.

762
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 5: I think he's had a couple bottoming out, and you're right,

763
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 5: it's just sort of on Smith to make the change

764
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 5: at some point. But Arthur Smith bears as big a

765
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 5: you know, blame of anyone, not that he picked Ridder

766
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 5: and that he stuck with Ridder, but that everything else

767
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 5: is such a mess.

768
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 3: I mean, you get a delay game on the goal line.

769
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 4: Essentially with the game on the leadle, and then you

770
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 4: come back and you almost the that's not on the

771
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 4: quarterback and what happens is an ensuing play.

772
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 3: Greg they ri Or throws a terrible right. It was

773
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 3: almost like you.

774
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 2: Get you get to delay a game, Greg game, then

775
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: you almost get cocked again and then you kind of

776
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: panicky threw it up for grabs.

777
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,239
Speaker 5: Okay, so terrible, that's Arthur Smith. But more, you know,

778
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 5: looking from above is this run game. And that's the

779
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 5: thing that really gets me in this matchup a year ago,

780
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 5: and I think this is a good litmus test, kind

781
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 5: of like I talked about with Chiefs Chargers. In this

782
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 5: matchup a year ago, teams are pretty similar for the

783
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 5: most part. The Falcons ran for one fifty one and

784
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 5: one seventy fourth. They split the two games, but the

785
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 5: Falcons running game got it, got it going both times.

786
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 5: You remember last year's Falcons running game, it was.

787
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 4: Awesome, Yeah, Tyler Lgier. It did not have Bejon Robinson,

788
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 4: who is awesome. And yet this year they're eighteenth in

789
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 4: DVOA in terms of they're running attack and it's not

790
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 4: about Bajon Robinson. Tayler Jeer is the perfect example of

791
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 4: how much worse it is because he he's the same player.

792
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 4: He averaged almost five yards per carry a year ago

793
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 4: and he's averaging three point two.

794
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 3: Now.

795
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 5: It's the blocking, it's the scheme. Everyone came prepared for it.

796
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 5: There's different defenses which are maybe a little more ready

797
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 5: for this zone blocking scheme, and even though they have

798
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 5: the same offensive line in the same scheme, none of

799
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 5: it's really working. And that's Arthur Smith. And you look

800
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 5: at the Rams, for instance, in them and the forty

801
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 5: nine ers, who their running game is very diverse. They

802
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 5: mix a lot of power, they do a lot of

803
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 5: different things. The Falcons are kind of they're do what

804
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 5: they do the zone running game, and they came back

805
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 5: with what they did a year ago and it is

806
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 5: not working. And to me, that's that's messed up their

807
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 5: entire team. And Ridder's that fault too, but it's messed

808
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 5: up Ridder too. And I don't know, because it's a

809
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 5: tough matchup against a pretty good Bucks running I guess

810
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 5: like if.

811
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 4: You like teams, teams you know new for months, this

812
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 4: is what the Falcons want to be. And they're going

813
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 4: to put out a quarterback with very little experience. And

814
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 4: I think defenses this year versus even a year ago

815
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 4: are like preparing and planning for the Falcons in a

816
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 4: different way, selling out to stop the ground game, and

817
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 4: it's putting in these games. These games were Riders throwing

818
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 4: the ball thirty five to forty times like that was

819
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 4: not the plan.

820
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 5: I mean last week Ritter had ten there were ten

821
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 5: passes defense for their opponent. He put it on the

822
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 5: other team's hands ten games and.

823
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: That was And he's thrown Yeah, he's thrown five interceptions

824
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: in the last three weeks. And if you were actually

825
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: watching the games like this was coming. He was throwing

826
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 2: the ball right in the hands of the defenders every

827
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 2: week in the first month, and he was just the

828
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: beneficiary of a lot of good luck and a lot

829
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 2: of drops. And now they're not dropping the ball. And

830
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: I think, like what you're saying with the running scheme

831
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 2: and what's not quite right there?

832
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 4: I think everything year, but the quarterback play was so

833
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 4: terrible last year.

834
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 3: I know it was part of it. I know, so,

835
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 3: but what is it then that like, what is it?

836
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 5: I think, Well, sometimes there's things that are un explainable.

837
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 5: But the team that they brought back and the scheme

838
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 5: teams are more ready for it for whatever reason, and

839
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 5: they're not playing it.

840
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: They have I don't know, but they have a prodigy

841
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: at running back and who has not been a problem.

842
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 2: But you know, I'm not gonna say anything negative about him,

843
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: but he's not winning games.

844
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 3: By himself.

845
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,959
Speaker 2: He's he's usually has a beautiful highlight reel play every week?

846
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 3: Is that? Does he need to get the ball more?

847
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 4: Is it?

848
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: I don't know.

849
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 2: It does seem like it's time to do something, Arthur,

850
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 2: to mix this thing up before you blow the season.

851
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 3: And yet the winner fired.

852
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 5: Is uh maybe my favorite because I don't trust the Saints.

853
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 5: This could this could sound bad when you listen to

854
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 5: it on Friday, but just like it's crazy how big

855
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 5: interesting game is?

856
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 3: Interesting game? All right? Uh, Greg, you're up?

857
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 5: Okay, I am gonna take a late game. Steelers at Rams.

858
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 5: Rams favored by three good value pick. At this point,

859
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 5: I think, uh, this Rams seem very watchable. Steelers coming

860
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 5: off of bye Are they gonna be different? One of

861
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 5: the things that I look to with the Rams is

862
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 5: if you can protect Stafford. He's one of the best

863
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 5: quarterbacks in the league. I think he is playing as

864
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 5: well in the regular season as just about any of

865
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 5: his great regular seasons. As someone who wrote the QB

866
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 5: Index for basically all of most of Stafford's career, I

867
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 5: could tell you at the end of the year he

868
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 5: would end up usually eleven to fifteen. He actually didn't

869
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 5: have that many great regular seeds. He had a couple

870
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 5: and this, to me is one of them. But their

871
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 5: offensive line when they've gone up against great competition hasn't

872
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 5: protected him as well. And this is great competition, so

873
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 5: high Smith and what if you can get after Stafford,

874
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 5: the Steelers can make this an uglier game.

875
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 3: And I think I.

876
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 5: Thought really hard about locking up the Rams here. I

877
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 5: do like them to win this game. They are favored

878
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 5: by three. I didn't pull the trigger in the end

879
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 5: because what and high Smith just worry me and Tomlin coming.

880
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 4: Off of by It's like the Steelers are a weird defense,

881
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 4: and I really I think we've all kind of like

882
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 4: yards per game or sort of they can they could

883
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 4: be mystified and not really tell the story, but they

884
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 4: give up the third most yards per game on defense.

885
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,479
Speaker 4: But their takeaways at the end of games and close games,

886
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 4: especially like it's like TJ Watch Magic Power absolutely completely

887
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 4: changed the script. And I think it's a huge thing

888
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 4: about them, like we're in this, I see this being

889
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 4: real tight. I like the fact for a really bad

890
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 4: offense that probably at this point you just lean on

891
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 4: Jaalen Warren and George Pickens, you know, Jayleen Warren feels

892
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 4: like he could be a little he could be a

893
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 4: little bit special for a really vanilla attack. But you

894
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 4: are getting Pat Fryarmouth back at practice this week. Deontay

895
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 4: Johnson's back at practice.

896
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 5: Like, I mean, that's huge, Absolutely, a wide receiver as

897
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 5: good as Pickins is right, I mean, this is an

898
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 5: offense that this is hard to do almost They have

899
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 5: average twelve point six points per game.

900
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 3: They're the worst red zone attack in the league.

901
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,959
Speaker 4: They've scored thirty point plus points one twice since twenty

902
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 4: twenty one, and they have a cross four hundred yards

903
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 4: as an offense in fifty three games.

904
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're they're facing an offense that is going

905
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 2: to score points. I think it's a tough matchup for Pittsburgh.

906
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 2: You gotta travel across the gotta travel across the country.

907
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 2: I know you're coming off your buye and I imagine

908
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: Tomlin has been obsessing over this roster and how to

909
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: fix things. So maybe you see a little bit different

910
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: in terms of scheme and matt on the offensive side

911
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 2: of the ball. But I think the Rams are gonna

912
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: They're gonna continue to play well at home and score points.

913
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 2: And I just don't see it. I don't see it

914
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 2: coming with this offense, with this quarterback right now, the

915
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 2: ability to score twenty two points or whatever it's gonna take.

916
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 5: Okay, I agree for the most part. And I love

917
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 5: the energy that Raheem Morris has. The Rams defense played with.

918
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 5: They're not the most talented group, they play with a

919
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 5: lot of energy, you can see it. But Deontay Johnson

920
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 5: is a huge addition for a team we've recognized can't

921
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 5: really win schematically, but he's just a player that wins

922
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 5: on his own. He gets open about as regularly as

923
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 5: any number two type of receiver in the league. Friarmouth

924
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 5: is a big time player for them too, So that

925
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 5: really changes their offense and makes it challenging for the

926
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 5: Rams defense. And then you flip it and you lose

927
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 5: Kyron Williams on the Rams side.

928
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 3: We didn't hit that on Wednesday.

929
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 5: He's going to be out, according to the reports, multiple weeks.

930
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 5: His backup also was hurt Ronnie Rivers last week. He's

931
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 5: out four to five weeks. He was put on injured reserve.

932
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 5: And so they're doing this thing where they're like trying

933
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 5: out a bunch of different players during practice. They Zach

934
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 5: Evans is a guy they've liked who's a special it's

935
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 5: been a special teamer. They actually re signed Darryl Henderson

936
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 5: to their practice, but weird one. That's why old Royce

937
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 5: Freeman who's bounced around, is there. So they're just they're

938
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 5: trying things and they want to run the ball. But

939
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 5: that's a pretty sick that kills him.

940
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 4: Kiren Williams, like in that second half against the cardif

941
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 4: time was I thought that was what they could be

942
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 4: for weeks and weeks going forward.

943
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: Uh, somebody feels very confident this week? Oh yeah, wow,

944
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: I didn't.

945
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 6: Let's sad to the Cincinnati What have we got, Eric Robert, Yes, guys,

946
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 6: the Cincinnati Zoo has weighed in. No video this week,

947
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 6: no video, no message, but they're.

948
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 3: Probably all in jail. The way they're fighting. It's it's

949
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 3: amazing as fully the one member of the zoo is

950
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 3: out and one of them is a child.

951
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 6: So I assume I'm texting Nick, right, Uh?

952
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, typically so Nick Nick he calls himself the zoo

953
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: keeper now I believe which is the brand.

954
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 6: So no video message, but he didn't want to let

955
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 6: you know. They picked the Rams over the Steelers and

956
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 6: the only thing he wanted me to I guess that

957
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 6: you guys know is that quotes Greg is a coward.

958
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 3: That's all he wanted me to tell you guys. It

959
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 3: doesn't even make sense.

960
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 4: Keep that messaging clean and simple. I like it.

961
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 3: Make sure you call Greg a coward on my behalf

962
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 3: end quote.

963
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: So he texted you and he here's my pick, and

964
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 2: tell Greg he's.

965
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 3: At the coward.

966
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 6: He was busy, you know, So no video this week

967
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 6: if you if I can't get to it, make sure

968
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 6: you call Greg a coward on my behalf.

969
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 3: All right, and now you have there, you go. Job done. Greg.

970
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: Don't use your clout to bury Eric Roberts. He's just

971
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 2: the messenger.

972
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 3: Nick said too. And you're according to your standards and worlds.

973
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: I mean clearly.

974
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 5: Nick is a competitive guy who's never won a lock

975
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 5: championship and never really been in contention in the final

976
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 5: week or so.

977
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 3: He wants what I have.

978
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: Feels like a good time to check in. So going

979
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: over all the locks are in. We all have different

980
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 2: teams this week, Greg Eagles, Mark Brown's Dan Falcons, and

981
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 2: here are the standings through week six. Greg five and one,

982
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 2: Uzz are four and two West Brothers four and two

983
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: and Mark at five hundred, you're one of the fifteen.

984
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: You're now the sixteenth team at five hundred or around it. Mark,

985
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 2: So you have some digging to do, but not you know,

986
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: you're all right or climbing. I should say I'm not

987
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 2: all right. I'm in last place.

988
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 3: You need this one. I mean this is again.

989
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: We got the Browns locked up by the Sizzler the

990
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 2: quiet Storm, and I gotta have it lockstand.

991
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 3: I might have to. I might have to. I am

992
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 3: considering something. Oh between now and the end.

993
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 5: Of the show, we'll see I do God, Okay, you

994
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 5: gotta do it during the show.

995
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 3: I know I am too. I'm like, I'm thinking about

996
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 3: doing something. It's gonna be kind of fun. Put Greg

997
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 3: and the crosshairs.

998
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 5: Really, that would be another lock. There's too many this

999
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 5: This week's stuff. This week is tough.

1000
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: All right, let's see Greg back to you.

1001
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna take the worst game on the board.

1002
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 5: I like to do that as my backup morning Mark.

1003
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: Likes to do that. High in the draft. Other people

1004
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: tend to lower with the pick.

1005
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 5: Okay, I can leave a different one for you, Dan.

1006
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 5: I'm going to take Raiders minus three. At the Chicago Bears.

1007
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 5: We've reached it, guys, We're at week seven. This is

1008
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 5: a terrible game, and we have in the National Football League,

1009
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 5: And I, for once I think that is necessary because

1010
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 5: I want to point out this is not one of

1011
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 5: those spring leagues. It's not the XFL, it's not the AFL.

1012
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 5: I think they combined the CFL. They are going to combine.

1013
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 5: But we got we got Aid and O'Connell potentially starting

1014
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 5: for the Raiders, but we don't know. And we've got

1015
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 5: Tyson Badgen expected to start for the Chicago Bears. I

1016
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 5: went and watched this Badgeant sixteen dropbacks because people were like, hey,

1017
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 5: Badgin actually was kind of fun. I was like, why, Ah,

1018
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 5: he was kind of a mild disaster and what am

1019
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 5: I missing?

1020
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, he dropped back to past sixteen times. He had

1021
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 4: two disastrous turnovers. He made one really nice seam throw

1022
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 4: I think was that to Mooney. I forget number two on.

1023
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 3: That must have really registered the yogals. And he had

1024
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 3: a couple he had a couple.

1025
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 5: He had a couple of throws that were that were fine.

1026
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 5: He got rid of the ball a little quicker than fields.

1027
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 5: But I saw nothing in that game that made me

1028
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 5: think they're upgrading that quarterback put it that way, so,

1029
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 5: I I guess I get why the Raiders are favored,

1030
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 5: but man, having Aiden O'Connell potentially favored by three points

1031
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 5: is also outrageous.

1032
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: Maybe is Max Max Crosby just has four sacks and

1033
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: ruins the game single handed.

1034
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean if they did throw in Brian Hoyer,

1035
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 4: this is like he's lost twelve straight starts.

1036
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I should, I should anymore provide context here

1037
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 5: that I'm just guessing O'Connell.

1038
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 3: But maybe it will be Hoyer.

1039
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 5: There was a report that they had decided who their

1040
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 5: starter will be, and the idea was maybe like Hoyer

1041
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 5: was coming in when it's like replacing during the game

1042
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 5: and Garoppo is not practicing, but he's also not ruled out.

1043
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 3: We don't know much more.

1044
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 4: It's uh, yeah, I mean this is these these are

1045
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 4: like the games like this just both teams just eminate depression.

1046
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 3: I just cannot. I'm glad you're watching the strike have

1047
00:44:59,080 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 3: a nice time.

1048
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 5: But here's what's a difference. One of them is favored

1049
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 5: to be four and three after that Sunday ends.

1050
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy? Well, yeah, it's fraudulent. It's what it is.

1051
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 3: I mean, Josh Jacobs is this is this is interesting.

1052
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 4: I have to wonder if this someone just cooked this

1053
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 4: into our research notebook as a complete fake. Josh Jacobs

1054
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 4: is on pace to join someone named Toffy LeMans the only.

1055
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 3: Player that's a mark man now.

1056
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 4: It's the only player to average under three yards per

1057
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 4: carry the season after leading the NFL and rushing Toughy

1058
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 4: Lemons who existed back in nineteen thirty seven. So well done,

1059
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 4: Josh Jacobs, and we've got this. DeVante Adams is now.

1060
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 4: But it's not Josh Jacobs. That's the thing. It's kind

1061
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 4: of like the Falcons.

1062
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 5: I'm more convinced than every yards per carry is like

1063
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 5: an offensive line. Well, if we know anyth about Josh Jacobs,

1064
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 5: there was some suspicion that what he was last year

1065
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 5: was just going to be for the next three or

1066
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 5: four years.

1067
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 4: He's always been hot and cold. The offense feels disorganized

1068
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 4: to me. DeVante Adams is upset. I think we've got

1069
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 4: some sound for him. We predicted this.

1070
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 3: Let's listen to me.

1071
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 7: It's not just about you know, I'm sure people thinking

1072
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 7: like you know what they won the game they won

1073
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 7: the Packers game. You know why is there an issue?

1074
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 7: I mean, you see why it is the issue. You know,

1075
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 7: y'all should know who I am, know what I'm about

1076
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 7: at this point. So it's not about you know when

1077
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 7: when you when you're a player like me mentally is

1078
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 7: my benchmark is not wins and losses, is greatness. So

1079
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 7: when I go out there, I expect to be able

1080
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 7: to have that ability to put that on tape and

1081
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 7: have an influence on the game. And that's like I

1082
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 7: say every week, that's my purpose for being here. I'm

1083
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 7: not here just to hang out.

1084
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 2: It's like the the Factory's blank number of days without

1085
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: an accident, and then he got to somebody falls off

1086
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 2: a ladder or into a vat of acid or something,

1087
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 2: and then.

1088
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 3: You have to erase the chalkboard. It's a tragedy.

1089
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 2: One of those would be worse than the other one.

1090
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 2: And uh, and then you have to put the zero

1091
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: and it's a tough move. That's went back to zero

1092
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,280
Speaker 2: days without a wide receiver chirping to the media about

1093
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 2: their role.

1094
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,439
Speaker 3: Of course, not EVERYR wide receiver is the same.

1095
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 2: DeVante Adams he can chirp because he's Devanta Adams and

1096
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 2: that's hard.

1097
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, to me, that's productive chirping it. And it was

1098
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 5: on a question of why he wants to be better.

1099
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 2: Sure, I'm not I'm not taking anything. I'm not you know,

1100
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 2: going after ATMs. I'm more just saying this is part

1101
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: of what comes with having wide receivers and high profile

1102
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: ones and elite ones.

1103
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 3: You gotta get them the ball.

1104
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: If you don't get them the ball, you're gonna hear

1105
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: about it, either inside the building or outside or And

1106
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 2: that's what's happening here.

1107
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 3: And they do have to do it. They figure out away.

1108
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 3: He's been like, you know, more of a decoin spots.

1109
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 4: But I do think he was like sold a bill

1110
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 4: of goods on some level because it's like, come back

1111
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 4: and here's this story. I never thought it was gonna

1112
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 4: turn out great, but like come play with your best

1113
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 4: friend Derek Carr. Then you move on from Derek Carr

1114
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 4: in a way that Demania Adams never understood.

1115
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 2: At the same time, like that was a calculated risk

1116
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 2: from the very star. Sure, you went to a Raiders

1117
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 2: organization that has not done much of anything in years.

1118
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 2: You joined kind of a mid tier quarterback that is

1119
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 2: a buddy of yours, and you left Aaron Rodgers and

1120
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: the Packers behind. It was always a bit of a gamble.

1121
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: The money was great and getting back to Vegas or

1122
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: whatever it is was great, I wonder, and we could

1123
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 2: save it for a conversation next week. If this is

1124
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: the first of maybe a very quick story.

1125
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 4: It feels flash pointy, but we have talked about this before.

1126
00:47:59,200 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 3: There was a move.

1127
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 5: He's also, by the way, on pace for thirteen hundred

1128
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 5: and fifty yards.

1129
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 2: He's not having like totally different though last year he

1130
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: was a monster. He was every bit as productive and

1131
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 2: good as he was with Aaron Rodgers playing with Derek Carr.

1132
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 2: But it just doesn't feel the same this year.

1133
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 4: And he's and you've got and if you've got you know,

1134
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 4: people like Brian Hoyer and Aidan O'Connell in there, it's

1135
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 4: not going to get any better. And like I was

1136
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 4: just saying to Greg, like, could you if they weren't

1137
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 4: in the same division and the Raiders wanted to get

1138
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 4: out of this, because it's just there's no just if

1139
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 4: he wound up on the Chiefs, all right, wow.

1140
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 3: Let's move on.

1141
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: I was trying not to throw anything out there because

1142
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: we save it for a conversation.

1143
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 3: That's a fantasy that's not about to happen.

1144
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 2: Never know, all right, I am up and this one

1145
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 2: actually works out nicely because I really do. I was

1146
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 2: thinking about it after the Wednesday show, like, ah, should

1147
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: I have been?

1148
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 3: And I wasn't the only one that said nay, I don't. Oh.

1149
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 3: I was actually with the Giant the Giants.

1150
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 2: I saved the Giants Washington the Giants so and then

1151
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 2: I was thinking to myself, if I was willing to

1152
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: save the Giants in the Fork Committee proceedings, do I

1153
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: owe it to the g men and to to the board,

1154
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 2: to the committee to lock the g Men this week

1155
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: against the Commanders. And ultimately I went against doing that

1156
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 2: because you just don't lock one in five football teams

1157
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 2: because they got that way for a reason.

1158
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 3: However, I do I like the Giants this week.

1159
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 2: I thought, even in a crushing loss to Buffalo, I

1160
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 2: like this idea that the worst is the worst has

1161
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 2: passed this team. I didn't think. I don't think that

1162
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 2: this coaching staff overnight became bad. I think there's a

1163
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 2: reason why they were an organization on the upswing going

1164
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 2: into this year. I think they're gonna steady the ship

1165
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 2: and and and that's why I didn't want to fork

1166
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 2: them because I think I think in about a month,

1167
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 2: in about a month to six weeks from now, we'll

1168
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 2: be talking about, oh, the Giants, Oh they have a

1169
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 2: sneaky three game winning streak all of a sudden. Yeah,

1170
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: it's like and maybe that only gets them back to

1171
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 2: four and six. And it's not like you're you're pounding

1172
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 2: the table that they're they're going to the super Bowl

1173
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 2: or anything. But I think there's gonna be some life.

1174
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 2: I think it starts here. I think the Giants at home,

1175
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 2: what is this situation? A quarterback, I would say that's important.

1176
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 2: But Tyrod Taylor, I think is a good enough backup

1177
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: where the offense will remain functional. And against Washington, which

1178
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 2: is kind of a hard team to figure out week

1179
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: to week, this feels like a g men victory week.

1180
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 3: I might be alan on this. This is a crazy matchup.

1181
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 4: They were heading into Week seven and these teams have

1182
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 4: combined to give up seventy seven sacks and it's pretty

1183
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 4: it's thirty four for Washington and thirty three for the Giants.

1184
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 4: I mean, we've seen it a lot in New York

1185
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 4: on prime time and with Sam Howell, who's been like

1186
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 4: a really interesting quarterback, I think, but it's not like

1187
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 4: how it's different than the New York's offensive line is

1188
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 4: one of these units you're talking about, like every time

1189
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 4: you turn around, they lose a starter, they lose backups,

1190
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 4: they lose third string guys, like it is a complete disaster.

1191
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 4: And I think a lot of that is Daniel Jones

1192
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 4: getting crushed because of that injury situation. But Washington grades

1193
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 4: out by certain metrics. It's like around the eighth best

1194
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 4: blocking pass blocking unit. And Howell holds that ball thirty

1195
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 4: four of his sacks, thirteen of them are essentially charged

1196
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 4: on him according to PFF. So you know, I think

1197
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 4: if he could that goes back to his pre college

1198
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 4: tape two. You know, if you look at some of

1199
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 4: the scouting reports. So I mean, if he could change that,

1200
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 4: I think they've really got They've got like the chance

1201
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 4: to have a quarterback that is extremely productive. But this

1202
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 4: is maybe a chance for a pretty defunct Giants pass

1203
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 4: rush to caveon Thibodeau.

1204
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 3: Our friend like to him and the company do something there.

1205
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: I could count the number of sacks the gized I've

1206
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: had on all season on one.

1207
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 3: Hit, yeah, fie.

1208
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 5: And that's despite the most blitz heavy team in the league.

1209
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 5: I'm not sure if they actually have passed if they're

1210
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 5: ahead of Minnesota at this point, but they've been one

1211
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 5: two all year, so they blitzed like crazy and they

1212
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 5: never get home. So that's kind of the question of

1213
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 5: every team that plays the Giants is like, how are

1214
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 5: you going to handle the blitz? And the answer for

1215
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 5: almost every team has been awesome. The Giants are terrible.

1216
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 5: I don't see it. I know they had like a

1217
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 5: good sixty minutes in Buffalo in a matchup we talked

1218
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 5: about already, But for the most part, I think that

1219
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 5: they are the worst team in the NFL, along with

1220
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 5: the Panthers and now you can throw the Patriots in there.

1221
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 5: But in terms of like the total resume, I think

1222
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 5: they're it. And they're so injured on the offensive line.

1223
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 5: They're losing new guys in practice. Shane Lemieux tore his

1224
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 5: biceps on Wednesday. He was another I think he was

1225
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 5: actually a replacement. I'm losing check of who's the replacement,

1226
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 5: who wasn't he was he was, but he had been

1227
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 5: there previously and been a starter previously.

1228
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 3: Evan Neil was a top ten pick a year ago.

1229
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 5: It's funny how like Cavon sometimes gets attentions like Cavin's

1230
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 5: been fine.

1231
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 4: He hasn't been great, but he hasn't been bad.

1232
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 5: Evan Neil was a top ten pick and I think

1233
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 5: according to PFF, was ranked second to last among all

1234
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 5: qualifiers at tackle.

1235
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 3: It's time to get him off tack.

1236
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 4: He's injured. Andrew Thomas is injured. Still he's not coming back,

1237
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 4: like their center is still injured. So I'd just think

1238
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 4: Washington's gonna eat. And I like the I like the Commanders.

1239
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 4: I like them getting two and a half.

1240
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yes, I think what you're saying. We're talking

1241
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 2: about the struggles and the injury issues of that line.

1242
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 2: The Giants have allowed close to one hundred pressures, the

1243
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 2: Commanders of ninety one pressures, and that's ninth most in

1244
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 2: the NFL.

1245
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 3: So here's the thing.

1246
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 2: I will you can call me in front of the committee,

1247
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 2: which will be a little weird because who's also the

1248
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 2: chairperson on Wednesday?

1249
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, feels that fell.

1250
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could call me in front of the committee

1251
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: on Sunday night. If the Giants don't find a way

1252
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 2: in this game, I will not only apologize for delaying

1253
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 2: work on the Giants, I will fork them myself, which is,

1254
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 2: you know, difficult to do. I have many friends that

1255
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 2: are supporters of boudreamn But it will be overdue. We

1256
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 2: shall see what happened.

1257
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 5: What if I, at that point, just to be annoying,

1258
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 5: was like, no, actually, now I'm going to stop.

1259
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 3: Stop the fork. I did want to say to you,

1260
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 3: Greg and not the Giants. You would never stopped. Oh

1261
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 3: that's it.

1262
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones did practice Wednesday and Thursday, but has not

1263
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 5: been cleared for contact, so that leads his availability in

1264
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 5: question because there is, as far as I'm concerned, a

1265
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 5: lot of contact in an NFL game and.

1266
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 3: Let's let's move.

1267
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: But we didn't get a chance to talk about this

1268
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 2: as a group this Sunday night game against Buffalo Man

1269
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 2: when when Sakon was heating up and he's running the football,

1270
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 2: you look good, you gotta kee keep feeding into him

1271
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 2: that Too many times they went away from that, including

1272
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 2: on their their penultimate scoring drive when you should have

1273
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 2: just seen they were wearing down the Buffalo Bills.

1274
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,479
Speaker 3: Can they do that against Washington? Uh? We shall see.

1275
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 2: Mark we're going to close out the draft with a

1276
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 2: double header from the Cesstag.

1277
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm somehow now getting two late games. That should

1278
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 4: make for an interesting second part of the day.

1279
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: Old sly Cestog did you have any type of game plan,

1280
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 2: Kaiser associated, Well, well, yeah, one of.

1281
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 4: Them is going to be given a nick shut. Yeah,

1282
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say we we will handle this. We'll figure

1283
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 4: it out, figure out behind the scenes. The listener does

1284
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 4: not care at all. Uh, all right, Cardinals at Seahawks.

1285
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 4: I have to admit my my uh temporary luster for

1286
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 4: the Cardinals operation took a big hit in the second

1287
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 4: half of that Rams game. A number of serious, uh

1288
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 4: deficiencies were revealed. One that I think will really hurt

1289
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 4: them in this game. They they're like the second one

1290
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 4: of the like they're a bottom five run defense, and

1291
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 4: it shows.

1292
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 3: About them has been offense related.

1293
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 4: It has been, and it's been you know all even

1294
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 4: that has been happening for about thirty minutes out of

1295
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 4: sixty in games, only five teams are giving up more points.

1296
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 4: I think this is a kind of game where if

1297
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 4: you're Seattle, it's in Seattle, they're you know, they're giving

1298
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 4: up seven and a half I could see them covering

1299
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 4: without too much of a headache there.

1300
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 3: The Dobbs train has fallen off a little bit.

1301
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 4: I think this is a great spot for Kenneth Walker,

1302
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:52,720
Speaker 4: just to run them wild.

1303
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 3: And I the one thing I noticed about.

1304
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 4: Seattle's injury report that there were Tyler Lockett a little

1305
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 4: banged up, DK Metcalf a little banged up, Zach Sharbonne

1306
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 4: a little banged up.

1307
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1308
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 4: I think I think in a way that may not

1309
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 4: matter too much. If these guys can get out get

1310
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 4: on the field to some degree. I would like to

1311
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 4: see one last little note on their offense. Jackson Smith

1312
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 4: and Jigba yardish totals in five games.

1313
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 3: I was wrong about this.

1314
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 4: I thought he would be coming in as like an

1315
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 4: offensive rookie the year type candidate thirteen yards, thirty four, ten, five,

1316
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 4: forty eight. I don't know, thought they were like I

1317
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 4: thought he'd like. You seem to me like the guy

1318
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 4: that come in and translate pretty quickly.

1319
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 5: Now they're Passingham has been quite uneven. I think last

1320
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 5: week against Cincinnati was a great example. Like Gino threw

1321
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 5: five or six passes as pretty as anyone in the

1322
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 5: league and had a ton of great completions, but when

1323
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 5: they needed to, they couldn't get it done. They've been

1324
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 5: very bad in situational football, red zone and third downs.

1325
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 3: It's very important. They haven't been able to spread around.

1326
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 5: Now they are like the Giants, a team that's lost

1327
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 5: three or four starting offensive lineman and they haven't looked

1328
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 5: so bad that like they're getting all the blame because

1329
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 5: of that. But maybe that's showing up. I think think

1330
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 5: they're going to get one of their tackles back this week.

1331
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 3: Is that right?

1332
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 5: I think is it Cross that's returning, not Lucas, so

1333
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 5: that that's something.

1334
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 3: But I see you twelves.

1335
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 5: By the way, I happen to follow a lot of

1336
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 5: Seahawks fans on Twitter, Theawks media and Chris and I

1337
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 5: saw some Drew Lock chatter popping up this week, and

1338
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 5: I just want to say, how dare you Seahawks Twitter?

1339
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 3: How dare you?

1340
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 4: He's played well this year, He's been an above average

1341
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 4: starting quarterback. He played well in that game for the

1342
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 4: most part. That pressure was on on Quick. It wasn't

1343
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 4: a great game. I I I got on him for

1344
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 4: holding the ball too long last week, but like their

1345
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 4: offensive line was a disaster.

1346
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 3: In that game, and he's been very good. If you

1347
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 3: want Drew Locke, you can have him. You don't deserve it.

1348
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 3: And you look at what was the face Greg that

1349
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 3: just made on our usage. We could pull that up

1350
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 3: on a replay.

1351
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 4: I never want to to be around it.

1352
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 3: Listen, this is a bit of a straw straw man.

1353
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 3: Now this is your way to They'll they'll let you know.

1354
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,439
Speaker 3: There was a lot of Drew don't start, Greg.

1355
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 4: There are massive things that happened from fan bases that

1356
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 4: you would say have no credence and you totally ignore this.

1357
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 4: One's stick sticking with you. Yeah, I have a higher bar?

1358
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 3: Are they in your head? Greg?

1359
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 2: Think about this, Greg, this is kind of smart, very

1360
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 2: smart of you by saying, oh, people are talking about

1361
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 2: Drew lock should be the starter, and then you could

1362
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 2: poopoo that and bury it because obviously that's ridiculous, But

1363
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: then it allows you to get away from the more

1364
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 2: nuanced conversation, which is statistically, Gino has not been as

1365
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 2: good this year as he was last year, and in

1366
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 2: a big spot last week, Gino was unable to get

1367
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 2: the job done. And I'm not saying I'm not saying

1368
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 2: that Gino is now not the answer for them. He

1369
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 2: is over drew locks, certainly, But I believe there's certainly

1370
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 2: is something in play here, GREGI that we could be

1371
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 2: back on the Geno coaster a little bit. Now, that

1372
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: doesn't mean it's like the Geno coaster of the old

1373
00:58:55,720 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 2: Jet Stays. He's a better player, but maybe he's just

1374
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 2: a little more up and down this year than last year,

1375
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 2: which was shockingly steady for most of them.

1376
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 3: I think you can remove.

1377
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 5: I think if you're including the what's going on around him,

1378
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 5: he's basically the same guy. And then I look at

1379
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 5: the stats like completing completion percentage over expected, uh, basically

1380
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 5: the same. He's twelfth in that EPA plus C POE composite,

1381
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 5: like he's tenth in PFF.

1382
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 3: He was eleventh last year. Like that's exactly to me.

1383
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 5: Who he looks like is a guy who's not quite

1384
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 5: a top ten quarterback, a little outside that, but he's

1385
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 5: playing well.

1386
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 4: I just want to see how get to watch the games,

1387
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 4: That's what I mean.

1388
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 2: You just see it how the season unfolds for Seattle. Well,

1389
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 2: I'll make my next pick.

1390
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 3: If you like, Oh I thought you had something to say,

1391
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 3: go ahead.

1392
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 5: They can't go to in the division, a sneaky big game.

1393
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 5: They can't well they couldn't see how.

1394
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 4: I don't think the Cardinals can do that. All right,

1395
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 4: last game seven and a half there, this is a stinker.

1396
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 4: Green Bay at Denver, Broncos getting a point in that one,

1397
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 4: yelling sorry it doesn't attract me.

1398
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 3: Have you lost?

1399
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 2: Because A Sessler's state your football fandom and as an analyst,

1400
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 2: you don't like long standing setups for teams like Aaron

1401
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 2: Rodgers and the Packers drove you crazy for years, and

1402
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 2: you did have a fascination with this new Packers earlier

1403
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 2: in the year.

1404
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 3: Is that is that by the wayside?

1405
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 2: Now?

1406
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 4: I think, like I just I don't really trust like

1407
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 4: the Jordan Love offense to do a lot down the

1408
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 4: stretch where they're going to be. They feel like they're

1409
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 4: merging into sort of a non story to me, that said,

1410
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 4: this is a great place to get right. The Broncos

1411
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 4: defense is an absolute car crash on ice. I think

1412
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 4: if you get Aaron Jones is back at practice, that

1413
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 4: to me is a huge factor for green Bay. They

1414
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 4: have not been able to run the ball. Well, they've

1415
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 4: really missed David Bacterry. But if you get Aaron Jones back,

1416
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 4: and he's special. Even in his lone appearance, he had

1417
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 4: a few big plays. It kind of gives Jordan Love

1418
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 4: and everyone else a chance to do something. So I

1419
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 4: want to see what happens there against a terrible defense.

1420
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 4: To that point, Green Bay would be back on track.

1421
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 4: Their last two games Jordan Love one touch down, five picks,

1422
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 4: fifty one point eight rating, sixteen point five points per game.

1423
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 4: As an offense, they've been They've taken seven sacks. I

1424
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 4: think back Toori has a lot to do with that.

1425
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 4: I don't know, if you can't beat the Broncos, you

1426
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 4: got big problems.

1427
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 3: Because I agree, we all it's like couldn't beat the Raiders.

1428
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 3: That to me is the same.

1429
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 4: Well that's why I think they're not They're they're far

1430
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,959
Speaker 4: away from being special. But and I know you can't,

1431
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 4: like you can't critique Russell Wilson. It's like he has

1432
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 4: been better, et cetera. But last two games that's a

1433
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 4: man no no, because I think it's like if I

1434
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 4: think it's it's like, if you're gonna go out and

1435
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,479
Speaker 4: just kill Russell Wilson, then you haven't watched him play

1436
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 4: like he had.

1437
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 3: We did, though, we did after last week game. He

1438
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 3: was terrible.

1439
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 4: The last two games, he's been terrible like the rest

1440
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 4: big season. Fine, I'm just saying in general, you can't

1441
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 4: just say.

1442
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 2: And you had bone heads on and Bruscyl saying, oh,

1443
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 2: he's been a problem. He was the problem in the

1444
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 2: second half against the Jets. He was the problem big

1445
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 2: time last week. So if he's trending downward, this actually

1446
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 2: could get worse for Denver, if that's possible.

1447
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 4: But if he's the only thing I wonder a little

1448
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 4: bit is like do you keep them like in if

1449
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 4: he gets worse because you are trying to get like

1450
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 4: one of the two or three college quarterbacks. I don't know, No,

1451
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 4: I don't think that's well.

1452
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 5: First of all, you start saying that they would tank

1453
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 5: by not playing Jared's Didham.

1454
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 3: I mean that feels well, stretch. I'm not seeing Larretts Didam.

1455
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 4: You're not sitting on uh, you're not sitting on Kurt

1456
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 4: Warner back there.

1457
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 3: I get that.

1458
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 4: But like Russell Wilson the experiment, there's no way he's

1459
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 4: their starter next year on any levels. So it's like,

1460
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 4: what are you doing with him?

1461
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 3: Now? Did you guys hear that? What you can do.

1462
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 2: Did you guys hear that Jerry Judy and Courtland Sutton

1463
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 2: are on the trade block?

1464
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 3: You cannot wait until and they have been since like

1465
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 3: Y two, K, Well.

1466
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 5: They try they Here's the thing, Denver tried to trade

1467
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 5: them this offseason and when no one really wanted him

1468
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 5: at any reasonable price, then they had to pretend like

1469
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 5: they didn't try to trade him. And this is like

1470
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 5: from the Sean Payton media playbook, where look, he's got

1471
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 5: more national media in his pocket than any coach since

1472
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 5: I haven't done this job. He he owns the media

1473
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:08,479
Speaker 5: and controls the narrative around him better I would say

1474
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 5: than any coach since his former boss Bill Parcells and

1475
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 5: him presiding over one of the most disappointing, poorly run

1476
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 5: teams in the NFL is a real test for that

1477
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 5: theory and the professionalism of everyone. Ever it's correct, Like

1478
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 5: I know it's getting on Sean Pitton for what about

1479
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 5: He's like, I'm with.

1480
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 3: You, like, up until the season, he's getting killed by

1481
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 3: people right now, was getting killed in the place.

1482
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 2: You know what, He's a laughing bock right now. But

1483
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 2: it's football fans and social media. I'm sure it's also

1484
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 2: been a good coach. It's not like we're like it's king.

1485
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 3: He's getting destroyed this year.

1486
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 2: But I guess to the point, and I don't follow

1487
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 2: it in the way that you do, Greg, So I

1488
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 2: can't tell you.

1489
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 3: I'm curious what the names are if you want to share.

1490
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 4: Them, every single one. But who's parenting for him right now?

1491
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 4: Like who's saying, actually, you guys are wrong Sean Payne.

1492
01:03:58,440 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 4: It's not it's not really the opinion.

1493
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:04,959
Speaker 5: It's more like how the news is presented, like even

1494
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 5: the Judy Sutton stuff, Like there are ways that you

1495
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 5: report on what's going on inside of the building. I

1496
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 5: think that doesn't happen with Denver because look, I think

1497
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 5: he's got everyone like I wouldn't.

1498
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 3: I don't even need to single out a name.

1499
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 5: If there's someone powerful in the media, Sean Payton has

1500
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 5: a favorable relationship that I think gets him better.

1501
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, all right, we'll see what happens. I mean,

1502
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 2: here's the other thing. It ain't twenty ten anymore, right,

1503
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 2: And he might have these great relationships, but if the

1504
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 2: team is terrible, and the and the roster is not

1505
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 2: getting better, and they the whole thing's gonna crumble. It

1506
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 2: doesn't matter who you're in bed with in the or

1507
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 2: in cohoots with in the media.

1508
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 3: Uh tughsich for Broncos.

1509
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 5: It's a big test for Lafleur too, who's I think

1510
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 5: at as discouraging a couple games as he's had since

1511
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 5: his first year as coach in in Green Bay because

1512
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 5: they started off okay and they've looked like, you know,

1513
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 5: one of the worst offenses in the league the last

1514
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 5: couple of weeks. And so here here's a matchup where

1515
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 5: you should take advantage of we are getting healthier, where

1516
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 5: we are coming off of by I'm not giving up

1517
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 5: on this Packers team totally. I wasn't that high on

1518
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 5: him to begin with, But I just think they at

1519
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 5: least have a chance to develop during the season into

1520
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 5: an interesting watch with an interesting team.

1521
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I mean. And it's the real test.

1522
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 3: And if Aaron Jones is playing, uh, run the rock.

1523
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,439
Speaker 2: If aj Dillon is gonna be in tandem or leading,

1524
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 2: run the Rock, because you could just wear that team

1525
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:29,919
Speaker 2: down in the second half.

1526
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 3: You see it every week, all right? That is the draft.

1527
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 3: Anything else to hit before we say goodbye?

1528
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 4: Well, we were waiting to see if Mark was gonna

1529
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 4: flip off his lock, but did.

1530
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 3: You have something he didn't do it? Well, this is

1531
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 3: the moment. This is the moment.

1532
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 4: Mark, all right, I'm gonna do it, get the locks.

1533
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 4: If I hadn't brought it to this now you know,

1534
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 4: I've been mulling this for a while. Yeah, defensive, Look,

1535
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 4: I do think one thing with the locks. I just

1536
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 4: definitely like I tried to not overthink it, but of

1537
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 4: course I one warning.

1538
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've all been there, right, you jump out of

1539
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 2: a lock, You're almost going through double the pain because

1540
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 2: you're tracking that first game. Should I have locked it?

1541
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 2: What if that team wins then the new team loses?

1542
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean you are just living through it.

1543
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 2: You're going through war in your mind. And now we

1544
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 2: throw it to Mark.

1545
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 4: It's yeah, decision twenty twenty us about that situation, which

1546
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 4: you know we've been through. It's more about the show

1547
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 4: and what I think creates an element of spice. And

1548
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 4: it's like, you know, Greg wouldn't go take on the

1549
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 4: West Brothers a week ago, which was a little suspect

1550
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 4: you know what I was that that wasn't that wasn't

1551
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 4: thinking about the show.

1552
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 5: Why would I be taking a team that I didn't

1553
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 5: feel that strong was gonna win, and I'm glad I

1554
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 5: didn't because by the way they lost, although they.

1555
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 2: Didn't all your media people that are all friends and

1556
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 2: love Geno Smith, that felt like a time to get

1557
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 2: behind the Great Seattle Empire.

1558
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 3: Are you arguing that I should have taken a loss.

1559
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,919
Speaker 2: Well, it clearly was hindsight, it was the right move.

1560
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 2: But but point being as a showman. As a showman, I.

1561
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 4: I think you know, we we we've enjoyed covering these

1562
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 4: Monday night games night after night, yes, or week after week,

1563
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 4: and uh, of course I'm gonna take Greg in a

1564
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 4: little lock up.

1565
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 3: This is Sunday night. Then oh we'll we cover Sunday.

1566
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 4: Night too, but it's week we come back into the

1567
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 4: studio to cover Sunday night after we do the whole show,

1568
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 4: and like, uh, I'm gonna take the Dolphins. I I

1569
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 4: think it's you know, a little suspect, but I like it.

1570
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 2: And in fact, uh kind of tying it all together

1571
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 2: when my nine year old son Jack and we were

1572
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 2: going through the schedule and I was like, who should

1573
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 2: I lock this week? And you know, oh, I was

1574
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 2: talking about rightly, but I was trying to explain it

1575
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 2: to him. He kept on pointing at the Dolphins. Well,

1576
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 2: I got to pick the Dolphins, and again I had

1577
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 2: too much respect, uh for Philly's operation and being pissed

1578
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 2: quite frankly after what happened in week six to do that.

1579
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 3: But I think they will.

1580
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 4: There's another thing, like, there's another scene I can imagine

1581
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 4: that doesn't mean this will happen where it's like, uh oh,

1582
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 4: Eagles back against the backs, up against the wall big time.

1583
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 4: Now two straight losses.

1584
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 3: You know what this is? Everyone acts like the Dolphins

1585
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 3: can't go on the road and handle the business.

1586
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 2: Miamis if you win a lock off with Rosenthal, I

1587
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 2: mean right takes you out here.

1588
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 3: He's up three, and that's a tough spot. Right you

1589
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 3: take him.

1590
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 2: This is a major momentum swing. And I would not

1591
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 2: bet against you to win the whole thing if the

1592
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 2: take care of business on.

1593
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,759
Speaker 5: Sunday, although I would also not, you know, bet against

1594
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 5: an extremely dark Sessler not even enjoying the Brown's win

1595
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,799
Speaker 5: if the Browns happened to win early and then.

1596
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:35,600
Speaker 3: This falls apart. The news for us though, is that sports.

1597
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 2: Die.

1598
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 4: By the way, that was not from today's show. I

1599
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 4: don't wish death upon it. That was when I was

1600
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 4: disrespected before the you know, I'd come. I drove across

1601
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 4: town to get to that committee meeting, and you're not

1602
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 4: even suggesting my totally believe you.

1603
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 2: The mask slipped a little bit, and that was an

1604
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:58,799
Speaker 2: unfortunate oversight by the committee.

1605
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 4: And again the committee, No, it was exactly, it was

1606
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 4: completely organic.

1607
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 2: I'll be tired and feathered in front of the community

1608
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 2: on Sunday night if the Giants make me look bad,

1609
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 2: so I have a little skin in the game, a

1610
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 2: little more.

1611
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 3: Than I thought actually ahead of Sunday.

1612
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 2: Thank you to everybody for watching again Thursday Night Football

1613
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 2: with Gregie Rosenthal coming up later on Thursday and then

1614
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 2: Sunday the Flagship Program.

1615
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 3: And NFL Plus this week. Check it out Heat the

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Speaker 3: Call