1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,599 Speaker 1: Arizona straight to the line. There's the snap to Murray. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Murray looks left pumps once looking looking a lot of time. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Now we drove and it didn't suck about a line 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: picked up down the left sideline, picked up a block 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: at thirty twenty twenty Amani ten five and he's spot 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: out a pound right there. I say you twenty four, 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: I see you. Welcome to ford Field for the twenty 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: Men in the Huddle podcast presented by Microsoft, and unfortunately 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: we didn't get into Amani or arrier interception, no turnovers. 10 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: PJ Clark joining me for the twenty in the Huddle 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: post game here from ford Field. Detroit Lions dropping their 12 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: season and home opener thirty eight thirty five. A lot 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: of stuff to kind of get through their pach huh. 14 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: There is a lot going on in that game. I mean, 15 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: with seventy three total points, you would think so, but 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: there's a lot to cover and the lines are down 17 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: seventeen in the second half. At one point you think, 18 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: oh boy, this is over. I'm, you know, beginning to 19 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: write my recap already, and then boom, you know that 20 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: that grit, right that that Dan Campbell always talks about 21 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: the guys who were able to fight their way back. 22 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: It becomes a three point game. The offense scores four 23 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: touchdownds on their last five season. Last year, yeah, became 24 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: a one possession game at the end against a good 25 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: San Francisco team that was a playoff team and a 26 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: good Philadelphia team that was a playoff team. Yeah. And 27 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: so you know, you like some of the things you saw, 28 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: you know Sunday. Obviously there's some things that they need 29 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: to clean up, and we'll go through all of it. 30 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: You know, I think let's start for one really good thing. 31 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: I liked one thing that they need to work on. 32 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: I think when you talk about Dan Campbell and what 33 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: he wants this football team to be, right, I think 34 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: it starts in the run game, and I think it's 35 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: on both sides of the football. I think he wants 36 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: to be a team offensively that can control pace, that 37 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: can dictate how they want to play via the run, 38 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: and then you open things up behind it with the 39 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: pass game. You know, you want to get guys in 40 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: the box and make that be a focal point. And 41 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: I thought one hundred and eighty one rushing yards DeAndre 42 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: Swift with one hundred four that was a good start 43 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: towards a thousand and one thousand. Yeah that's the prediction. 44 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: That's not the prediction, but that's the goal DeAndre set 45 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: for himself. A couple of weeks ago, we were in 46 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: the joint practices in Indianapolis, and you're right, what a 47 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: great start and what just you know, he's been healthy 48 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: all through camp. He's looked different to me in camp 49 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: versus first two seasons and what he was ready to roll. 50 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: But the flip side of it is Dan Campbell also 51 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: wants this team to be good against the run right defensively, 52 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: want to be able to stop that, want to be 53 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: a staple on defense, and just quite frankly, through the 54 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: first eighteen games of his tenure, they haven't been able 55 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: to do it. Now. They ranked twenty eighth against the 56 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: run last year. Very similar output today as the Philly 57 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: game last year. Different score, but very similar way of 58 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: how the Eagles put up points and commanded this game. 59 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: Two hundred and sixteen rushing yards, four rushing touchdownds. They 60 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: averaged five point five yards perk A and Jalen Hurts. 61 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: You know, they really had a tough time containing Jalen Hurts. 62 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: All game. He threw for two hundred and forty three yards, 63 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: which you know, eighteen to thirty two. I thought they 64 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: did an all right job in the past. The game, 65 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: he hit a couple of big plays that the one, um, 66 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: you know, the fifty four yard or late was obviously 67 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: a big one, but ninety rushing yards and a rushing 68 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: touchdown a couple of times. Page on third and long 69 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: being able to scramble out and get out of the 70 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: pocket and make plays, and also on fourth down, fourth 71 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: and goal rushing for a touchdown. And that's something you know, 72 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell knows that he has to has to really 73 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: clean up. He put the onus on him and his coach. 74 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: He said, this is what he had to say after 75 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: the game about defending Jalen Hurts a rushing quarterdack and 76 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: just be even better against the run overall. Yeah, I did. 77 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: I did, And you know, we had a lot of 78 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: I'm almost in position, I am, I got a hand 79 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: and we just couldn't close it out. So look, I 80 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: think we'll be better for that. You know, you face 81 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: a guy like that, and uh, look there was a 82 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: number of guys out there. It's first game of the season, 83 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's a full game. Now you're in the 84 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: real tempo, you know, real NFL tempo against real dudes. 85 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: And and uh, I think it got on some guys. 86 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: But they'll all be better for it. Everybody will be 87 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: better and we'll be in a little better shape too, 88 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: after playing after one week, you know, And you know, 89 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: I think he's right. I think there's something to that. 90 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: You know, the first game, you're kind of feeling it out. 91 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: You haven't played sixty plus snaps yet. And and but 92 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: the trend. I just don't like the trend I'm seeing 93 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: with this defense against the run. It almost seems like 94 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: week after week you'll have a good week, but then 95 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: two three where you don't. It's just hard to play 96 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: good good defense in the NFL. And teams can run, 97 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: and especially with the running quarterback. Is that that's something 98 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: And we talked about it even after Mariota ran against 99 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: that first team in in the preseason game. It's not 100 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: something that the Lions have them on the roster. It's 101 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: not something you see. So it's it's hard to you know, 102 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: come back and you know, the Lions over two I 103 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: would say against running quarterbacks so far this year. The 104 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: positive moving forward from that go through. You know, I 105 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: went through the schedule and I'm looking, I'm like, oh boy, okay, 106 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: when could the Lions face another quarterback like that where 107 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: this could maybe come up again? And I really I 108 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,799 Speaker 1: had to go till I think it was November fourteen 109 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: and Justin Fields in Chicago. Yeah, So, you know, I 110 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: guess that's the good thing is is, look, you don't 111 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: have a lot of those guys in the divisions. Just 112 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: Justin Kirk Cousins and and Aaron Rodgers aren't going to 113 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: run for ninety yards on you. So and even Dak 114 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: at this point, maybe you do it. Yeah, I mean 115 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: those guys just aren't not not Jalen Hurts, not Justin 116 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: Fields for sure. No. And so I guess that's the 117 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: positive moving forward is that you don't have a bunch 118 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: of these situations lined up. But you know as well 119 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: as I do, it's a copycat league. And so look, 120 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: if you've got a dual threat quarterback and you saw 121 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: that today, that's your game plan. Like Whence is a 122 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: guy not a running quarterback, but he can move a 123 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: little bit. He's not exactly a pocket past he can 124 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: get outside a little bit, I would be surprised if 125 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: Washington didn't try to add something in after seeing the 126 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: tape from today, so you know, the rushing part of it. 127 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: Were the two things that I kind of took away 128 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: from this. What were a couple of things that you 129 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: took away from this? I think that Jeff Okuda was phenomenal, 130 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: and outside of the one bomb to AJ Brown, I 131 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: thought the past defense was pretty good, especially Philly started 132 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: off real slow in the past game. Jalen Hurts that 133 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: first drive, he was all running and he was not 134 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: doing anything through the past game. He was you know, 135 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: throw throwing in the middle of the field. He had 136 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: nothing going for him. It was all the sidelines. So 137 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: I think you're happy with the perimeter today outside of 138 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: the one bomb to AJ Brown. And that bomb wasn't 139 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: even jeffcos Well, it was Will Harris. Jeff Okuda wasn't 140 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: on the field. And here's what Dan had to say 141 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: about Jeff in the way he played what happened with her. Oh, 142 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: we were just being smart with reps. You know, we 143 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: just got him back and he's in a good place. 144 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: We were just trying to, you know, let's let's monitor 145 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: a little bit and not overdo it. But yet certainly 146 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,119 Speaker 1: get him his his plays, you know. So we're trying 147 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: to we're trying to work a couple of guys that way, 148 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: to be smart, you know. And I was seeing in 149 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: Twitter on Twitter after the game too, Jeff was, you know, 150 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: saying that he was dealing with some cramps here and there, 151 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: which is not surprising at all that young man first 152 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: game to play the game at that many reps, and 153 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: you know he obviously have the Achilles injury week one 154 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: last year, so, um, not surprised. But I agree with you, Um, 155 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: I thought he played pretty well. I think you look 156 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: at the numbers, um, you know, ten tackles overall, got 157 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: his hand on a pass, defended one. I thought he 158 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: was really good in the run support. He gave up 159 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: a couple of plays, but look, you're gonna give up 160 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: a couple of plays in this league. I mean, look 161 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: at Jalen Ramsey the other day. Yeah, I mean, and 162 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: he's the best in the business. That's just how it happens. 163 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: It's gonna um, but you have to take the totality 164 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: of the game and watch it, and it'll be interesting 165 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: to see some of the numbers, you know from Pro 166 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: Football Focus and some of that stuff tomorrow I'll be 167 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: really interested to watch. But I thought it was it was. 168 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: It was a pretty good game for a guy who 169 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: hasn't played football at you know, in a regular season 170 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: game in a year, and it's it's everybody wanted to talk. Yeah. 171 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: A J. Brown is a superstar in a big acquisition, 172 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: but they have a two headed monster over there. DeVante 173 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: Smith is not a slouch and he got shut out today. Zero. 174 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: I know that because he might or might not be 175 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: on my fantasy team. Yeah, well, not a good day. 176 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: And then let's go to the other side of the 177 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: ball and you look at Detroit and I thought there 178 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: were some positive things to take away from this. Ben Johnson, 179 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator, calling his first game Detroit moves down 180 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: the field for script was great. It was great for 181 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: first possession, Boom moved down and you scored touchdown, you're 182 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: up seven nothing. It looked great. Swift with his first 183 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: carry this season for fifty yards. You complete some passes, 184 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: Hugson is a great catch on third down, and it 185 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: just was all on schedule, like you said, and you score, 186 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: but then three and out, three and out, three and 187 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: out not ideal. Pick six and there's a lull there, 188 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: you know. And now they did get the touchdown right 189 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: before the half, but and then you scored touchdown on 190 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: fourty your last five possessions. But it's that lull that 191 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: was right there, and it just seemed to really bother 192 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: Jared Golf at Jerk Goff after the game, that kind 193 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: of for possession, he thought that was the difference in 194 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: the game. And I think it is too. We should 195 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: we could felt like we could score fifty to day. 196 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: I mean, we left a lot of points out there, 197 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: and uh, you know it was and it wasn't you know, 198 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: you tip your cap to the Eagles are a damn 199 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: good team, but we shot ourselves in the foot all 200 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: day long, um, specifically during that lull. Uh And and 201 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: you know, felt like, you know, if we if we 202 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: don't do that during that period of time, you know, 203 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: it's a it's a different outcome. But that's what happened, 204 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: and we gotta fix it. I agree, and they do 205 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: have to fix it. But I think you take some 206 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: positives from this. For me, you rushed for one hundred 207 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: and eighty one yards. Yeah, you scored thirty five points 208 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: against top ten defense last year. That added you know, 209 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: players to make them better. Yeah, Baron came up huge today. Yeah, 210 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: very good. Another thing, they were nine of fourteen on 211 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: third down sixty four percent. This is an Alliance team 212 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: that ranked thirty first in the NFL in third down 213 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: percentage last year at thirty some percent. So I think 214 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of positives to from this. Yes that 215 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: I think, you know, you score on one of those possessions. 216 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: At four possessions, I think this is a different game 217 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: and you probably get a win. But there are some 218 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: good things to take from this. Offensively agree, I think 219 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: the one possession to me was that that second possession 220 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: where Philly goes for it on fourth down at like 221 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: the Lions, what was that like forty five ish something 222 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: like that take over there and then you go three 223 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: and out and that was that was brutal. Yeah, that 224 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: was the momentum shift. And that was seven to seven. 225 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: You know, you're still there. Maybe you know you don't 226 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: need points necessarily, but three and out there was the 227 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: worst possible thing that could have happened. And then the 228 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: pick six. Obviously a little miscommunication there between Golf and 229 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: his receiver thought he was gonna, you know, cut in 230 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: and cut out, you know, and it just you know, 231 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: it is what it is. It's a great player. I 232 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: mean it was. It was a tip trill. It was 233 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: a great catch. But Briberry and you know, and it happens. 234 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: It happens, and now you're down fourteen, you know, and 235 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: now you're just playing that catch up game. I like 236 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: the fact that the Ben Johnson, despite being down by 237 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: as many as seventeen points in the second half, did 238 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: not get away from the run game, you know, did 239 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: not let um Philadelphia's pass rush be able to tee 240 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: off on golf, which is normally the case. The team's 241 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: down seventeen, now they've become past happy. You're gonna throw. 242 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: You can pin your ears back and go get them. 243 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: I thought Ben Johnson was good in the fact that 244 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: he kept Swift involved. Um they continue to run, and 245 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: they hit some runs, and it kept Philly on their 246 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: toes or on their heels. I should say a little 247 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: bit and allow Detroit, I think, to get back in 248 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: the game. And I think that that's the key is 249 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: keeping Swift abolve, because that's that's your best player. You 250 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: gotta give him the ball, you know, maybe not run 251 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: straight into the line every time, but he had he 252 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: had the one down on the this is bad radio, 253 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: but the left side of the field where he bounced 254 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: it outside on the line side, and that's get him 255 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: in space, and yeah, get him the ball on on 256 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: screens or quick outs or whatever you can do to 257 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: just keep him involved, even even if it's running the 258 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: ball down points, which is not you know, can eventual well, 259 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: because he's so dangerous with ball in his hands, you know, 260 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: in open space. So with even that short passing game 261 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: like you talked about. So he also had three catches 262 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: for thirty one yards. That's a ten point three average. 263 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 1: He had the nice long one of twenty five and 264 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: let's tell one hundred and seventy five total yards. If 265 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift has one hundred and seventy five yards in 266 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: most games, I think you're gonna feel pretty good about 267 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: Detroit ye having a chance to win that game exactly 268 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: like they did today. Exactly. Well, let's talk just real quick. 269 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson number two overall pick, what'd you think of 270 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: his debut? It? Honestly, what coach said post game is 271 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: they had a lot of guys with hands there but 272 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 1: couldn't quite make the play. That's I think that that 273 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: sums up Aidan Hudsonson's day is he was he was 274 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: in the backfield, he was there, he was getting off blocks. 275 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: He just never quite got finished. Yeah. Finished, that's the 276 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: word with Hutchinson. You know he's gonna watch this tape 277 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: and just knowing him and we've talked to him a lot, 278 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: he's gonna be upset with himself because there are some 279 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: opportunities to make some plays. Even late in that game 280 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: on that third down run. Um, he had a chance 281 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: there and didn't. A couple of times he was in 282 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: the backfield's close to getting a grasp of hurts and 283 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: he's able to escape for first downs. And you know 284 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: he finished the game with one um assisted tackle, no sacks, 285 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: no real impact plays, and the top five offensive line. 286 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: Though this might be the best offensive line football, you're 287 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: not gonna see many, if any better than No. That's 288 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: a good point. That's definitely a good point by you 289 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: as well. Um, But you know, in Dan said after 290 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: after the game, look, he's gonna get better. He's gonna 291 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna see a different guy next week. Like to 292 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: your point, it's not as good an offensive line next week. 293 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if we don't see a little bit 294 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: more production um from him. You know. Defensively, a couple 295 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: of guys stood out, you know, obviously Tracy Walker with um. Hell, 296 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: he was all over eleven tackles, one sack, a tackle 297 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: for loss, a quarterback, hit, a defender. He even made 298 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: a special teams tackle. But guess what, Peage, when you 299 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: need to play late in the game, you'd like to 300 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: have your best defensive players on the field. Yeah, Am 301 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: I wrong by that? No? No, especially the guy you 302 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: just gave a lot of money too, Especially the guy 303 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: that had one hundred tackles last year, the legend tackles. 304 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: You need a big third down tackle, you know, you'd 305 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: love to have that guy in the field. And Tracy 306 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: Walker wasn't on the field because he was in the 307 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: locker room. Yeah, and he was in locker room because 308 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: he got ejected from this game. Great not great, Um, 309 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: and he got ejected. Look, he hit Jalen Hurts late 310 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: and high on a slide. There's there was There was 311 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: a lot going on with Jalen Hurts today. Every every 312 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: time that he slid, somebody was coming in and I 313 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: was surprised it was only one flag. You know, I 314 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: thought he he slid late a lot, and I think 315 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: the refs even noticed that too. And I remember one 316 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: time he slid pretty late and Ordy Ware kind of 317 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: hit him, and the referee ran in and said no, no, no, no, no, 318 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: like it was late slide, Like that's not on the defense. 319 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: And you know you've got to You've got to protect 320 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: the defensive players as well, because they're just you know, 321 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: they're just trying to to make a stop. But Tracy's 322 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: was is blatant yes and high yeah, and then he 323 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: gets into a scuffle, throws a punch and gets another 324 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: personal file penalty. Once you get to you're out of 325 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: the game. So you're leading tackler, one of your best defenders, 326 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: that guy you just paid huge money to out of 327 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: the game in the third quarter and you don't have 328 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: him late. And look, he talked after the game and 329 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: he admitted, look, I can't do that. I'm a team leader, 330 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: I'm a captain. I let my guys down. So he 331 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: said all the right things, but that's just a play 332 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: that can't happen. He's got to be smarter than that, 333 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: and that sets you up at a position of safety 334 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: like Gigi, who's got a lot of snaps. Then and 335 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: it's not the Gigi whos is not you know, capable, 336 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: but that it's not a position with a lot of depth. 337 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: And like you said, Tracy's one of your best players too, right, 338 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: And so it was tough. You know, Malcolm Rodriguez obviously 339 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: he's gotten a lot of hype here because of hard knocks, 340 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: because the camp he's had started today, I was pretty good. Yeah, 341 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, we made a knight. So a 342 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: couple nice plays in the past game. You saw his range, 343 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: he filled, a couple fields were great, run fils were great. Um, 344 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: we saw the little salsa dance after a tackle for loss, 345 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: so that was good too. Did you like that? I 346 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: don't think, um, but yeah, like Hutchinson, he's gonna guy 347 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: that's gonna continue to improve in game. It's game one. 348 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: It's game one. But I like, I like kind of 349 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: where he finished. I mean, six tackles, the tackle for loss. Um, 350 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: So not bad for him. I think I think it 351 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: was a good debut. Yeah, and especially at such a 352 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: pivotal position of linebacker that you know, for him to 353 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: show up in game one and just provide you with 354 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: any any positives. You gotta take it from a sixth 355 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: round pick. I know he's gotten a ton of hype, 356 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: but you still got to keep it in that context 357 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: of this is a sixth round pick and anything you're 358 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: getting from him right now is is already positive value. 359 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: No for sure, good point by you. And so look, 360 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: I think there's some encouraging things to take from this. Offensively, 361 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: that's a good defensive football team there. Then you were 362 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: able to put up thirty five points despite a lot 363 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: of missed opportunities. I think there's some drops, mis throws. 364 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: There could have been a ton more of big plays 365 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: in the passing game. The one late with with Josh 366 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: Reynolds dropping that when he was behind the defender right, 367 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: I think that was a bad drop, But I think 368 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: getting him more involved because Chuck got more involved as 369 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: a game went on. Saint Brown kind of came on 370 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: a little bit. He dropped a couple early, but then 371 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: came on a little bit as the game went on. 372 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: Getting Josh Reynolds. You need that third guy, I think 373 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: to really make this thing go, and and I think 374 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: that passing game will start to go. I think this 375 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: was a you know, good for them to know that 376 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: the opportunities are there, that it's just a matter of 377 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: completing them. Yeah, So I'd be more concerned if guys 378 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: weren't open, if you you didn't see any separation, if 379 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: there weren't any big play possibilities, that wasn't the case. 380 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: They just didn't take advantage of them. And I think 381 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: if you're Ben Johnson, if you're Jared Golf, I think 382 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: you can watch this tape and see some positives about um. 383 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: Like like Jared said, you know, they think they could 384 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,239 Speaker 1: have probably scored fifty. I think they're right if they 385 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: if they make a few of those plays. Defensively, they 386 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: got to be better against the run. It's just it's 387 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: just that simple. Um. You know, they've got to tighten 388 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: that part of their defense up, like you mentioned early 389 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: and talked about and it was a good point about 390 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: the past defense. It wasn't bad Like Jalen Hurst didn't 391 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: have a passing touchdown in this game. Everything they did 392 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: was really set up and started with the run. And 393 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: whether it's the quarterback running, it's the running backs. I mean, 394 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: Miles Sanders had ninety six rushing air. It's a seven 395 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: point four average and a touchdown again, seven point average, 396 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: five point three average, four point average. I'm looking at 397 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: these five point five total. As a run game, it's 398 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: hard to win football games when teams can run up 399 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: and down the field and own that time of possession. 400 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: And so I think offensively, you feel good about this game. Defensively, 401 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: you've got some things to clean up, especially in the 402 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: run game. But thirty eight thirty five against a playoff team, 403 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: I was going to say, I mean, not a bad start. 404 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: Now the competition is going down next week. Philadelphia is 405 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 1: a playoff team that got a lot better that you 406 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: saw last year. And now you're playing a Washington team 407 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: that you didn't have the prior history with for this 408 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: regime and is not a playoff team and did not 409 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: look particularly great today. Yeah, so they'll look at the tape. 410 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, we'll talk on Monday. We'll get in the 411 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: locker room with some players. Obviously a twenty min in 412 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: the Huddle podcast. Next week I'll get some players on, 413 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: we'll get a Washington preview, we'll get into all that, 414 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: and we'll be back here next Sunday night. We win 415 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: it all again, right and hopefully one and one. So 416 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: we got a busy week, thirty eight thirty five final 417 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: here Week one, the Lions are losers to begin the season. 418 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: Oh and one, but uh, you know, I think there's 419 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: some positives to take from this. We'll see what they 420 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: have to say about this one. We'll move on to Washington.