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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greace.

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Speaker 2: A loving father of four, a devoted son gunned down

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Speaker 2: outside and air B and B. But that's not all.

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Speaker 2: Wait for it. A judge. Let me give you her name.

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Speaker 2: Judge Natalia Cornelio lets the shooter out to get a haircut.

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Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: being with us here at Fox Nation and Serious XEM

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Speaker 2: one eleven. You heard me. If you're trying to clean

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Speaker 2: out your ears, don't this judge, a former federal public

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Speaker 2: defender who has devoted her entire life to getting killers

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Speaker 2: out from behind bars, has let a killer walk out

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Speaker 2: of jail so he could get his hair styled. Yes.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't even make this up in my wildest dreams,

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Speaker 2: but it happened. First of all, take a listen to this.

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Speaker 2: Our friends at Fox twenty six, three.

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Speaker 3: Hundred and fifty first Criminal dissec Court Judge not At

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Speaker 3: Cornelio lowered Lane's two hundred and fifty thousand dollars bond

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Speaker 3: to one hundred thousand. He's been out on bond for

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Speaker 3: two years and has multiple curfew violations. August seventeenth, Lane

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Speaker 3: is back before Judge Cornelio.

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Speaker 4: He goes back to court and actually pleads guilty to murder.

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Speaker 3: Then, according to court documents, Cornelio allows Lane to remain

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Speaker 3: free on bond so he could get a haircut.

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Speaker 4: I've not seen someone actually convicted of murder and then

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Speaker 4: allowed to remain on on pending the sentence. Sing, that's

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Speaker 4: a first.

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Speaker 3: We can confirmed Lane did go to mister Dun's barbershop

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Speaker 3: for a haircut.

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Speaker 2: Okay, my head is spinning. I can hardly think. Let

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Speaker 2: me go straight out to special guest joining us, Tabitha Souls.

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Speaker 2: This is Gregory Moore's stepmother. Miss Soules, I hardly even

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Speaker 2: know what to say. When did you learn that Gregory's

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Speaker 2: killer he has pled guilty. I'm not saying he's just

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Speaker 2: charged with murder, he has pled guilty. That this judge,

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Speaker 2: Natalia Cornelio, let your son's killer walk free so he

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Speaker 2: the killer, could go get a haircut.

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Speaker 5: I had to watch it on a zoom. I had

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Speaker 5: to watch this man stand in front of her and

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Speaker 5: say that he did it and ask his lawyer asked

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Speaker 5: if he can be free to get a haircut. It

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Speaker 5: was horrifying to just ask to hear him say I'm guilty.

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Speaker 5: I did it. Like with no remorse.

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Speaker 2: How did Greg's dad, also named greg how did he

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Speaker 2: take it?

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Speaker 5: His father is devastated, absolutely devastated. It has took a

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Speaker 5: toll on his health, his depression. This is his first

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Speaker 5: board he's toured, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, Miss Souls. All I can think about is my father,

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Speaker 2: my father, Mac Grace. He worked all sorts of swing shifts, night, day,

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Speaker 2: you name it, for the railroad, to put us through

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Speaker 2: high school and put us through college, and help put

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Speaker 2: me through law school. How this would break his heart.

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Speaker 2: It would break my father in half if something like

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Speaker 2: this happened. And I remember Miss Holes and my fiance

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Speaker 2: was murdered and we had to travel every single day

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Speaker 2: for hours to get to the killer's murder trial. You

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Speaker 2: know who drove me? My father, And I didn't realize

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Speaker 2: it at the time. I was so lost in my

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Speaker 2: own grief. My father would cry the whole tribe to

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Speaker 2: the courthouse. I just can't imagine what this is doing

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Speaker 2: to Gregory Moore's family. He's got four children. He's got

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Speaker 2: eight year old Peyton, a six year old Emir, five

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Speaker 2: year old Killing, and four year old Kelly. I pray

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Speaker 2: that they don't understand what's going on, guys, what do

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Speaker 2: we know happened at the time of the killing? Take

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Speaker 2: a listen to our friend Dave Mackett Crime Online.

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Speaker 6: Gregory Moore, a father of four, was visiting Houston from

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Speaker 6: New York. He and four other men from New York

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Speaker 6: and New Jersey rented a home an Airbnb. After a

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Speaker 6: night of clubbing, the men returned to their airbn b

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Speaker 6: inviting some women. As one of the men parked the car,

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Speaker 2: So he goes out with us friends. A whole group

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Speaker 2: of people come back. They're off the street, they're not

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Speaker 2: driving drunk. They come back to their place for a

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Speaker 2: right now in addition to Miss Souls an all star

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Speaker 2: panel to make sense of what we know right now.

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Speaker 2: The facts at issue are undisputed. There's not going to

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Speaker 2: be a jury trial. He did it. He pled guilty,

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Speaker 2: Joining me right now in addition to my longtime friend

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Speaker 2: reporter k RV Fox twenty six, Randy, what is going on?

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Speaker 7: It's pretty crazy and answer, I'll tell you that. And

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Speaker 7: address of the barbershop, mister Dunn's barbershop. We went over there.

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Speaker 7: hair that day and he said that Lane told him that, well,

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Speaker 7: you know, I'm not going to be here for a while.

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Speaker 7: I killed someone. I mean, he kind of admitted it

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Speaker 7: to the barber. Two. One thing I want to point

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Speaker 7: interviewed Tabitha and I interviewed Greg the dad. Tabitha during

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Speaker 7: the zoom, she was talking about Judge Cornelio getting kind

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Speaker 7: court room. Tabitha tell tell Nancy about that.

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Speaker 2: Oh please, do I want to hear this? Miss Souls.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely So, after everything was setting though that he played guilty,

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Speaker 5: she was angry with the court bailiffs in there because

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Speaker 5: their word none when this gentleman take that lightly when

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Speaker 5: Lane said he was guilty. So after the fact she

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Speaker 5: was so mad with them not having been in the

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Speaker 5: know she can care for her life, but not anywhere

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Speaker 2: Okay, let me understand something, Missules. She was angry because

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Speaker 2: she was unguarded by an admitted killer. Okay, what did

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Speaker 5: I don't know her exact words. I just know she

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Speaker 5: was very angry that no one was in there with

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Speaker 2: Andy Conn, can you please help me make sense of

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Speaker 2: what I'm hearing? Andy Conn is with me, director her

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Speaker 2: victim services and advocacy at Crime Stoppers of Houston. You

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Speaker 2: can find him at crime dash Stoppers dot org. Andy,

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Speaker 2: what is going on? Number one? Tell me your understanding

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Speaker 2: of everything that happened. When an admitted killer gets let

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Speaker 2: the stepmom has to see it on a zoom and

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Speaker 2: the judges met because nobody's there to protect her from

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Speaker 8: Now somewhere in the sky, Rod Serling is just comically

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Speaker 8: left and going God. I wish they could bring Twilight Zone,

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Speaker 2: And are I understand your humor, Andy, because I know you,

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Speaker 2: But I don't find this funny one bit because I

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Speaker 2: remember the day a viewer emailed me at Court TV

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Speaker 2: and said, Andy, I've told you this story. I had

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Speaker 2: I just looked at the public email where people would

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Speaker 2: write in questions and comments, and a lady wrote in,

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Speaker 2: did you know that your fiance Keith's killer has been released?

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Speaker 2: And guess what, I didn't know. I remember that moment.

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Speaker 2: And now this stepmother and the bio dad has to

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Speaker 2: Natalia cornelio let a confessed admitted killer who has planned

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Speaker 8: You know, Nancy, It's kind of like they got sucker

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Speaker 8: punched by the criminal justice system. So the reality is

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Speaker 8: He violated his bond conditions several times. On curfew, he

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Speaker 8: goes before the judge pleads guilty to murder. So it's

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Speaker 8: not like, well, he's just charged, he's just a suspect. No,

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Speaker 8: he is now a convicted murderer. Evidently the judge became,

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Speaker 8: bond conditions. And Randy and I have looked through numerous

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Speaker 8: Bond story, but I've never ever seen anything in writing

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Speaker 8: that specifically says you're allowed to go to a certain

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Speaker 8: you can go and get your hair cut. That was

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Speaker 8: a first. So he's actually due back in court, I

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Speaker 8: they're going to sentence him or not, who knows. But

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Speaker 8: it's problematic because you have somebody now walking amongst us

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Speaker 8: a lengthy prison sentence. And let me tell you, in

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Speaker 8: that have gotten into shootouts with law enforcement. So this

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Speaker 8: is not a very good public safety scenario. But for

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Speaker 8: the victims family, it's absolutely gut wrenching when you find

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Speaker 1: Prime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Now joining us hyper file lawyer out of this Jurisdiction, Texas.

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Speaker 2: Brian Foley more, certified criminal defense attorney, former chief prosecutor

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Speaker 2: in Harris County, Texas, and author of an upcoming book,

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Speaker 2: What Prosecutors Don't Tell You. You can find him at

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Speaker 2: Brianfoleylaw dot com. Brian. Once there's a conviction, it's almost

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Speaker 2: well in other parts of the country anyway. Once there's

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Speaker 2: a conviction, it would be over my cold dead body,

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Speaker 2: the defendant would walk out of that courtroom. O Hlno,

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Speaker 2: he is no longer presumed innocent. He is a convicted killer.

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Speaker 2: And this guy, by all accounts, walks up to thirty

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Speaker 2: year old Gregory Moore, father of four, and guns him

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Speaker 2: down right there outside the Airbnb. He's mining his own business,

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Speaker 2: just leaving a bar with all of his friends. I

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Speaker 2: have like four or five other guys. They come home

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Speaker 2: and he gets gunned down. It sounds like a robbery,

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Speaker 2: an armed robbery that ended in murder. That's what it

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Speaker 2: sounds like. I don't know that, but I don't care.

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Speaker 2: He pled guilty to homicide. Now, why is it that

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Speaker 2: this judge thinks it's okay to get the family like that.

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Speaker 2: That's what a conviction is all about. You get convicted

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Speaker 2: of homicide, you go to jail. It's not you get

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Speaker 2: convicted of homicide and you go get your hairstyled. That's

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Speaker 2: not the law.

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Speaker 9: You're absolutely right, especially on the law in Texas. A

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Speaker 9: murder charge it's a special charge called a three G offense.

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Speaker 9: It's named after an old penal code, and you cannot

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Speaker 9: get probation from a judge for this. So there are

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Speaker 9: some lawyers. I talked to him, thought, well, sometimes they'll

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Speaker 9: reset a case and do what's called a PSI or

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Speaker 9: pre sentenced investigation. But for a murder.

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Speaker 9: we need a PSI.

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Speaker 2: he mistreated as a child, does he have a criminal record,

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Speaker 2: The judge doesn't need help because there is a mandatory

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Speaker 2: Brian Foley, I don't know what's happened to you since

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Speaker 9: Yes, and it's he had a bond violation, According to

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Speaker 2: Tekay, this is new to me. Slow down, don't talk.

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Speaker 2: Lawyer talk taught regular people taught. A bond violation means

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Speaker 9: He admitted to violating his house arrest.

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Speaker 5: And he has head violation ten plus violations.

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Speaker 5: Yes? Yes, man, he has ten plus violations, ten probation

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Speaker 5: That is I've read. There's probably more I have not read,

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Speaker 2: Is it always the same judge? It probably is, Andy,

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Speaker 2: Is it the same judge, because typically when you have

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Speaker 8: The court documents clearly indicate that it's the same judge,

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Speaker 8: because I'm reading the bond violation report as we speak,

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Speaker 8: So this was not his first dog and pony show

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Speaker 2: Ryan Fowley, What is wrong with this judge? Judge Natalia Cornelio.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's just part of her worldview and she thinks

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Speaker 9: I think it's being possessed by this worldview that the

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Speaker 2: Doug Griffin is joining US Houston Police Officer for thirty

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Speaker 2: when you've got a judge like Judge Alia Cornelio letting

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Speaker 10: Sadly, this is not the first case of a judge

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Speaker 10: There's case after case after case where we have people

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Speaker 10: We have in Harris County right now at least one

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Speaker 2: Or in this case convicted exactly and looking at life

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Speaker 11: No.

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Speaker 10: And like Andy said earlier, we've had HPD had three

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Speaker 10: we've got to put a stop to it. We've got

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Speaker 2: Guys. Joining me is the stepmom of the murder victim

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Speaker 2: it when they hear the killer is being allowed free

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Speaker 2: on bond to go get his hair styled by Judge

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Speaker 2: Natalia Cornel. What happened to the victim, the father of

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Speaker 12: He was taken to a nearby hospital where he later died.

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Speaker 12: Right now, they don't have a suspect or vehicle description,

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Speaker 8: As far we know what, they never made it inside

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Speaker 12: Anyone with any information as being encouraged to call the

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Speaker 6: As Moore and a woman walked to the door, a

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Speaker 6: Moore was pistol whipped and shot multiple times. He took

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Speaker 2: So the victim was pistol whipped repeatedly. You know to you?

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Speaker 2: Douglas Griffin, Houston police officer over thirty two years in

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Speaker 2: president of the Houston Police Officers Union. Because you explain

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Speaker 10: It means. He took the weapon that they were using

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Speaker 10: decided to shoot him multiple times. This wasn't just a hey,

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Speaker 10: I'm just going to rob a guy and take his money.

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Speaker 10: This was almost like it was parsonal. He just beat

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Speaker 2: And if you could see the victim, so handsome, so young,

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Speaker 2: this was going to be an armed robbery gone bad.

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Speaker 2: But it wasn't that spur of the moment. Oh No,

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Speaker 6: Police discovered that the shooter is one of the women's boyfriend.

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Speaker 6: He used Instagram to track her and follow the girl

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Speaker 6: During an interview with the suspect, he admitted to going

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Speaker 6: twenty one year old James ray Lane has been arrested

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Speaker 6: been charged with murder. His bond is set at two

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Speaker 2: And you know to doctor Carla Manley, clinical psychologist. Now,

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Speaker 2: this is one of the many reasons we have doctor

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Speaker 2: Manley on She's the author of Date Smart, Transforming Relationships,

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Speaker 2: and Love Fearlessly. You can find her at doctor Carlomanley

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Speaker 2: dot com. How was he the dad of four? He's

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Speaker 2: not married. You can dave whoever he wants to. How

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Speaker 13: Absolutely, when we're outstating when we're out in the public,

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Speaker 13: we don't expect to be victims of violent crimes. We

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Speaker 2: Just thinking through what went through Greg's mind. He's out

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Speaker 2: They're all there in Texas. They go out and have

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Speaker 2: out of the blue, up comes this guy, James ray Lane.

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Speaker 2: He has stalked them, he has followed his girlfriend, and

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Speaker 2: he's got a gun. You know, in my mind, Andy Kahn,

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Speaker 2: that changes things. No, I can't bring Greg Moore back.

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Speaker 2: But this was not some robbery gone wrong, which is

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Speaker 2: still a murder. He went there on purpose. He stalked

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Speaker 2: his way to this location. Andy con That is cold blood.

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Speaker 2: He pulled that trigger and he pistol whip this victim

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Speaker 2: in cold blood, and this judge let him out to

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Speaker 7: No, this was not.

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Speaker 8: Something random spur of the moment. I mean, you had

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Speaker 8: I mean, he had zero chance. You get out of

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Speaker 8: left for dead. There is no if ans or butts

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Speaker 8: did he do it. He did it, And he's facing

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Speaker 2: This is cold blood.

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Out to you, Brian Foley, high profile lawyer joining us

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Speaker 2: out of this jurisdiction Texas. That changes things, That changes

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Speaker 2: the complexion of the crime. This judge lets a guy

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Speaker 2: out that coldly and calculatedly planned an attack and now

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Speaker 2: have to watch on his zoom to see his killer,

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Speaker 9: And you know, and it doesn't have to be that way.

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Speaker 9: The judge has the power to ask the prosecutor for

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Speaker 9: more detailed information to make a bond decision. She can

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Speaker 9: like we've said, you once you've already pled guilty and

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Speaker 9: you're convicted of murder, you have no right to be

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Speaker 9: on probation. There's no need for him to be released

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Speaker 9: at that point. Oftentimes almost all the time they're put

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Speaker 9: in custody at that point.

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Speaker 2: Guys, take a listen to our cut eight our friends

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Speaker 2: at Fox twenty six.

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Speaker 3: This is not the first time three hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: first criminal court judge not at Cornelia has allowed to

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Speaker 3: defend it to remain free on bond after beating guilty

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Speaker 3: to a violent crime. June twenty eight, twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 3: thirty year old Gregory Moore was gunned down by thirty

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Speaker 3: three year old James ray Lane.

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Speaker 14: If he had just hurt him, I'd have been fine

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Speaker 14: with that, but he was shooting to kill more.

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Speaker 3: A father of four was visiting Houston from New York

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Speaker 3: and more.

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Speaker 2: From our friends at Fox twenty six, let's send Gergy.

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Speaker 3: Moore's dad and stepmom. Couldn't believe the judge allowed aim

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Speaker 3: to remain free.

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Speaker 14: I think that's nonsense. Like if he pleaded guilty, he

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Speaker 14: should have been locked up right then and there, Like

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Speaker 14: why give him it's been two years now.

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Speaker 2: Letting him go get a haircut for what? For what?

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Speaker 2: My son can't get a haircut, My son can't spend

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Speaker 2: holidays with us, he can't see his kids get a haircut.

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Speaker 5: That boy should have been locked up from the beginning, missiles.

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Speaker 2: When you say our son can't go get a haircut,

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Speaker 2: you know I think the same thing all the time.

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Speaker 2: Keith can't go out, he can't go for a jog,

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Speaker 2: he can't see his family. He never got to have

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Speaker 2: a family, And it hurts me to know his killer

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Speaker 2: can do all those things, all those things that Keith

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Speaker 2: loved to do. He was an athlete, on baseball, scholarship.

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Speaker 2: He can never do any of those things again. His

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Speaker 2: family was robbed of seeing him grow up and marry

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Speaker 2: and have a family, the things that we had planned

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Speaker 2: together for so long. What goes through your mind when

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Speaker 2: you think that your son's killer is walking free to

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Speaker 2: go get a hairstyle.

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Speaker 5: I think that it just feels like hurt all over

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Speaker 5: again from the beginning. Every day I think about it.

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Speaker 5: Every day, it hurts even more because now I fear

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Speaker 5: that maybe this guy is going to do it to

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Speaker 5: somebody else, and that person's going to have to feel

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Speaker 5: the same pain that I feel. We're missing out on

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Speaker 5: so many things with my son, and he's allowed to

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Speaker 5: be home and have deals with his family and do

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Speaker 5: things freely without consequence. Is how I feel because he's

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Speaker 5: just running around free, let me go get a haircut?

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Speaker 2: Why not Randy Wallace. Has anyone asked the judge what

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Speaker 2: was she thinking?

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Speaker 7: She obviously is not a fan of mine, so she's

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Speaker 7: not going to talk to me. I want to go

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Speaker 7: back real quick to what Javita was saying about being alone,

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Speaker 7: about Judge Cornelio being alone with Lane. I talked to

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Speaker 7: David clave As, the president of the Deputies Association. He

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Speaker 7: talked to the deputies assigned to that court. Apparently what

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Speaker 7: happened is there was some sort of emergency, something happened,

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Speaker 7: and they were called out of the court for about

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Speaker 7: ten minutes. So Judge Cornelio was alone with Lane, and

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Speaker 7: when they came back, she was very upset about being

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Speaker 7: in the courtroom with him without a deputy there. I

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Speaker 7: think that's so telling. Here's a woman who sees no

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Speaker 7: problem with releasing this man to the public, and yet

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Speaker 7: she's afraid of being in a courtroom with him without

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Speaker 7: somebody being in there with or with a gun.

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Speaker 2: I think her life is more important than our Exactly,

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Speaker 2: It's not the first time she's done that. Take a

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Speaker 2: listen to Our Cut twelve Box twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Back in March, Judge Cornelio allowed Christopher he has to

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Speaker 3: remain free on bond after pleading guilty to assaulting a

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Speaker 3: family member and getting a fourteen year prison sentence.

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Speaker 4: Christopher Diaz has had multiple felony convictions.

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Speaker 3: DS spent a month on the run after he failed

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Speaker 3: to go back to court to begin his prison term.

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Speaker 4: If you're mister Lane and you're looking at a lengthy

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Speaker 4: prison sentence, do you show up or not?

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Speaker 3: Laine is supposed to return to court on August thirty

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Speaker 3: first to be sentenced.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good luck with that, Andy Kahn. Who is Christopher Diaz.

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Speaker 8: Christopher Diaz has a lengthy criminal history, including a conviction

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Speaker 8: of injury to a child. He pled guilty to assault

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Speaker 8: within ten two pee breathing, which is just a fancy

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Speaker 8: term for trying to strangle somebody to death. He was

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Speaker 8: actually sentenced. So here's what kind of makes it a

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Speaker 8: little bit different than what we're taught about. Same judge, Yeah,

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Speaker 8: same judge, same court, fourteen years in March, and for

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Speaker 8: whatever reason, he's allowed to remain told a return back

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Speaker 8: to begin his sentence, And of course he just said, man,

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Speaker 8: you know what, I'm out of here. I'm not going

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Speaker 8: to do this. So the Harris County Sheriff's deputies officers

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Speaker 8: there was actually a warrant out for his rearrests even

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Speaker 8: though he's already been convicted. So again, like Doug and

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Speaker 8: I have been saying, you're putting law enforcement at jeopardy

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Speaker 8: in a.

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Speaker 2: Horrible, horrible position. I mean, if you pull this guy over,

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Speaker 2: even for a traffic violation, he's going to shoot the

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Speaker 2: cop because he doesn't want to be pulled in on

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Speaker 2: a murder charge and go in for life without parole

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Speaker 2: or a simple life. Guys, it's happening over and over,

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Speaker 2: and judges are supposed to be the experts in the law,

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Speaker 2: but apparently they can't see beyond their own concerns. Take

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Speaker 2: a listen to our cut thirteen, our forensic KGRK.

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Speaker 15: My mom was eighty years old. She was disabled, you know,

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Speaker 15: she shuffled with the and she's the prototypical grandmother, you know,

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Speaker 15: reading glasses down on her nose, knitting needles by the

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Speaker 15: side of a rocking chair, A mother.

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Speaker 16: Of three, grandmother of six. Rosalie Cook was three minutes

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Speaker 16: from home at Walgreens and Guesser in South Bray's Wood

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Speaker 16: Boulevard to buy a card. One year ago, as she

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Speaker 16: headed towards her car in the parking lot to go home,

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Speaker 16: Rosalie was stabbed to death by Randy Lewis.

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Speaker 2: And who is Randy Lewis? Well, he had been arrested

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Speaker 2: sixty seven times, that's sixty seven times. He was out

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Speaker 2: on ro R, released on personal recognissance, in other words,

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Speaker 2: released on your promise you'll come back to court. And

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Speaker 2: he runs into this. Literally, a little old lady eighty

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Speaker 2: years old out to buy a card at Walgreens and

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Speaker 2: stabs her dad. Now I see judges bending over backwards

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Speaker 2: for defendants. Here's a good one. Our cut seventeen out

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Speaker 2: of twelve. News.

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Speaker 17: Jacob Chansley, also known as the Q Shaman last scene

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Speaker 17: storming the US Capital on January sixth, will be served

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Speaker 17: organic food as he awaits trial in federal custody in Washington,

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Speaker 17: d C.

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Speaker 6: Now this comes after a federal judge ruled yesterday that

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Speaker 6: Chansley's religious beliefs entitle him to be able to follow

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Speaker 6: his organic diet.

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Speaker 2: Organic diet? What about Brian Coburger. He's getting a vegan

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Speaker 2: diet and it's not because of any religious belief judges

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Speaker 2: bending over backwards to caddle killers. This guy we were

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Speaker 2: just talking about, not only it's a burglar breaking enter,

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Speaker 2: but to our own capital, and he's getting a special meal.

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Speaker 2: He's worried about his religion. Now, he wasn't worried about

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Speaker 2: his religion when he was breaking into the capital. That's

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Speaker 2: not all. Here's a judge that stops court so the

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Speaker 2: defendant can get a design or outfit on. That's right.

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Speaker 2: Stops the bailiffs, the jury, the witnesses, everything, so the

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Speaker 2: defendant can get her outfit just right. Take a listener

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Speaker 2: Cut eighteen inside edition.

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Speaker 18: Is she in a courtroom or at a red carpet event?

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Speaker 18: Annasorrikin is accused of posing as an heiress to live

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Speaker 18: an extravagant lifestyle. But it's what she's wearing to trial

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Speaker 18: that is making headlines. The twenty seven year old defendant

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Speaker 18: showed up wearing a form fitting black dress with a

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Speaker 18: plunging neckline and choker necklace. It's a look that could

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Speaker 18: backfire a Warren stylist Don Karen.

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Speaker 11: Black dress definitely a no no. A hyper sexualize her.

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Speaker 11: It makes her appear to be like a seductress. The

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Speaker 11: choker kind of shows to me that she's trying to

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Speaker 11: be overtly sexy. The more sexy she appears to be,

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Speaker 11: it hurts her.

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Speaker 18: Soor kin is so obsessed with her clothes. She refused

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Speaker 18: to enter the courtroom because the outfit she was given

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Speaker 18: to wear was not up to her standards. The angry

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Speaker 18: judge told her this is unacceptable and inappropriate. This is

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Speaker 18: not a fashion show.

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Speaker 2: Well, the judge was all bark and no bite because

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Speaker 2: the judge delayed court and waited for the defendant, who

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Speaker 2: had ripped people off to over sixty thousand dollars, to

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Speaker 2: get her outfit just straight before she would walk in.

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Speaker 2: And that's why we have bails woman to bring the

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Speaker 2: defendant into the courtroom. Okay, and what about Jamie Lee Komarowski.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember her? She got so drunk multiple times

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Speaker 2: the legal limit and then plows down a bride and

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Speaker 2: groom leaving their wedding reception, mows them down in her car,

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Speaker 2: and kills the bride in her wedding dress. Wait for it,

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Speaker 2: take a listen to our friends at crime.

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Speaker 6: Online Comaroskie has been vocal about conditions in the jail.

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Speaker 6: Her complaints range from a lack of writing supplies to

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Speaker 6: not having an exercise matt to do her crunches. Kamarowski

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Speaker 6: has complained about nosy deputies and the food hot dogs

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Speaker 6: called meat balls, white bread, and more. She even complains

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Speaker 6: that a deputy wouldn't even let her hold the remote

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Speaker 6: control to change the television channels in her holding area.

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Speaker 2: Okay, sometimes I'm actually left speechless. Andy Kahn, my longtime

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Speaker 2: friend and colleague director Victim Services out of Houston. Andy,

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Speaker 2: she's upset. Yes, she did mow down the bride and

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Speaker 2: groom drunk as a skunk, killing the bride in her

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Speaker 2: wedding dress. But she's upset. She can't hold the remote.

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Speaker 2: Help me.

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Speaker 8: It's like being part of this backwards world and you

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Speaker 8: sit there and you just want to scream like Peter

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Speaker 8: Fension Network, I'm mad as hell, and I can't believe

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Speaker 8: this has happened, and this has got to stop. I

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Speaker 8: don't understand this new criminal justice reform philosophy of where

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Speaker 8: now the defendants and the convicted killers and convicted felons

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Speaker 8: are now looked upon as being victims of the system,

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Speaker 8: and you have people on the bench that are bending

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Speaker 8: over backwards, basically acquiescing every little whim and every little

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Speaker 8: request they get. Crime victims are the only unwilling participants

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Speaker 8: in the criminal justice system. Everyone else chose their role

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Speaker 8: law enforcement prosecutors, defense attorneys, judges, parole probation victim advocates.

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Speaker 8: No one ever said, pick me, pick me, I want

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Speaker 8: to be a victim of a crime. And yet right

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Speaker 8: now victims are treated with disinstitutionalized disinterests, like they're not

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Speaker 8: even part of the equation.

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Speaker 2: Including this judge, Judge Natalia Cornelio, and you elected her.

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Speaker 2: She wasn't appointed as simple hat by the governor. She

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Speaker 2: was elected. What is her jurisdiction?

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Speaker 7: Randy Wallace, You know, one of the interesting things too,

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Speaker 7: when you look at these judges here back when we

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Speaker 7: had the primary, We've been doing breaking bond for more

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Speaker 7: than two years, and during the primary, some of the

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Speaker 7: incumbent judges they lost, which is almost unheard of. But

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Speaker 7: then the November election last fall, all these judges that

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Speaker 7: we had been doing reports on they got reelected.

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Speaker 2: Okay, my question was, I know it's Houston, Texas, but

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Speaker 2: what is her jurisdiction? What county, Harris County, Harris County,

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Speaker 2: Harris County voters, you did this you did this to yourself.

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Speaker 2: Now what are you going to do about it? Sit

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Speaker 2: by and let Judge Natalia Cornelio let other killers out.

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Speaker 2: You know, I got a question for you, doctor Carla Manley.

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Speaker 2: When my children are growing up, they would read these

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Speaker 2: little batty when I was teaching them to read these

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Speaker 2: little beatty than books, and they would have a number

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Speaker 2: on the outside as to the difficulty of the books.

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Speaker 2: What was about difficulty? Three? And my son read a

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Speaker 2: Superman book about bizarro Land. Bizarrow Land is another planet

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Speaker 2: where everything is exactly opposite as it is on our planet,

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Speaker 2: and so the Superman there was a bad guy. Everything

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Speaker 2: was upside down, everything was reversed, and that's exactly what's

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Speaker 2: happening here. Nobody gives a flying fig about the victim,

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Speaker 2: especially Judge Natalia Cornelio. It's all bass awkwards.

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Speaker 5: Doctor Absolutely.

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Speaker 13: I worked for six years with juveniles on probation, a

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Speaker 13: very serious units and what I learned from that experience,

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Speaker 13: regardless of your age, is that when children or adults

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Speaker 13: are given consequences where they are predictable, where the environment

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Speaker 13: is consistent, the consequences are predictable, especially when they have

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Speaker 13: impulse control issues, which children do, but ulto criminals certainly do.

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Speaker 13: If we don't have predictable natural consequences, we really run

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Speaker 13: the risk, as you say, of turning the world upside down,

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Speaker 13: for ourselves, for the children, for the children that become adults,

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Speaker 13: and in this case, for the public, where it is

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Speaker 13: a topsy toury world when convicted murderers are released.

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Speaker 2: That was beautifully said doctor Manley, Doctor carl And Manley speaking.

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Speaker 2: But final word to Tabitha Souls. This is Greg's stepmom

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Speaker 2: who's been trying to get his father through this stunning

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Speaker 2: blow dealt to him by not only a killer, but

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Speaker 2: a judge. He lets the killer walk free to get

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Speaker 2: his hairstyle. Fat chance this guy's going to come back

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Speaker 2: to court for a life behind bars, Miss Souls. What's

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Speaker 2: your word to the judge?

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Speaker 5: A hope that by the time October eighteenth, Cob, she

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Speaker 5: has some common sense back into her head to put

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Speaker 5: this guy behind bars for life stime.

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Speaker 2: And my hope is that the voters remember this come

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Speaker 2: reelection time. That's my hope. Absolutely, let your voice be heard.

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Speaker 2: You can reach the judge at eight three to two

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Speaker 2: nine two seven three six seven five repeat eight three

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Speaker 2: two nine two seven three six seven five, and you

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Speaker 2: can reach her law clerk. She doesn't have the guts

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Speaker 2: to put her own email out there. The law clerk

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Speaker 2: is Esperanza dot alan is at h seat. That's Harris

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Speaker 2: County District Clerk dot com. Let your voice be heard

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Speaker 2: and the voters of Harris County sit up and pay attention.

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Speaker 2: We wait as justice unfolds. Goodbye, friend, you