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Speaker 9: Let's pick up where the d Backs left off last night.
Speaker 6: How about that for a game playing up?
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Speaker 9: Paul Calvi's here, Danny surrec everyone over there in for Ron.
Speaker 6: Wolfleay tonight.
Speaker 10: Thanks to Phil tonight and Danny. You know our policy,
Speaker 10: No I don't, but I'm scared.
Speaker 9: Under no circumstances for more than two decades do we
Speaker 9: ever permit cowboys on this show.
Speaker 6: But that's strictly the.
Speaker 9: Dallas Cowboys, okay, and they were disposed and dispatched of
Speaker 9: early this season, the Dallas Cowboys now small town Oklahoma
Speaker 9: Cowboys who happened to be Cardinals' first round picks and
Speaker 9: first stringers on defense. All absolutely, everyone give it up
Speaker 9: for Zamon Collins tonight on The Big Red Rage.
Speaker 1: Hell you guys, thank you, it's awesome being here.
Speaker 6: And your answer to that, right cowboy?
Speaker 1: Sometimes depending on the reference.
Speaker 9: But yeah, well, if Danny you tell us what was
Speaker 9: just posted on the Cardinals YouTube page today, right fitcheck
Speaker 9: I'm gonna kick it over to you the eighteen to
Speaker 9: thirty four demo to explain exactly what's up there right now.
Speaker 10: I don't know, Paul, You've got better style than I do.
Speaker 10: No Fitcheck is a new series. It was really interesting.
Speaker 10: Zamon was the first player that was shown in this,
Speaker 10: and it's pretty much players breaking down their outfits really
Speaker 10: just on game day, explaining their style. And I got
Speaker 10: to say the outfit you wore, Zavon that they were
Speaker 10: doing close ups of you walking into the stadium.
Speaker 7: I don't know what game that was, but it was
Speaker 7: a nice like eighties flair you were talking about. You
Speaker 7: had like a custom belt buckle.
Speaker 10: You were going into detail about the cowboy hat and
Speaker 10: the feather and the shirt you're wearing, and talking all
Speaker 10: about your style which is pretty interesting, which you you
Speaker 10: said is vintage and western.
Speaker 7: It's a pretty good, I feel like description of yourself.
Speaker 1: Somewhat.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I would say it's very vintage. It's not a
Speaker 11: new new school or like the new street stuff. I
Speaker 11: kind of mix that in sometimes when I want to,
Speaker 11: But yeah, it was fun. They brought that idea to me,
Speaker 11: and I was lucky because I had order a few
Speaker 11: pair of jeans a couple of days before. It didn't
Speaker 11: even wash them, do anything, just threw them right on
Speaker 11: and walked out. They were a little tight, but it
Speaker 11: was fun. It was a good time.
Speaker 9: I'm told it's all about the accessory savment. Okay, the accessories.
Speaker 9: So I was impressed, Like the hat was from where.
Speaker 11: That was from Nashville. I got that in Nashville and
Speaker 11: went on a One of my best friends was getting married,
Speaker 11: so we went on a bachelor's trip there. I had
Speaker 11: a few hats made and I came home with a
Speaker 11: box full. Like, you know, walking on a plane with
Speaker 11: a hat holding one, Everyone's looking at me crazy.
Speaker 1: It was like, as in Nashville, I had to get
Speaker 1: hats made. But yeah, the belt buckle I bought that
Speaker 1: we were walking through.
Speaker 11: You know, if anyone's been to Las Vegas, there's all
Speaker 11: these shops everywhere inside the casinos and they're you know,
Speaker 11: I'm sitting there and all of a sudden, like there's
Speaker 11: one shop out of all these that had like cowbo hats,
Speaker 11: and they're like I better walk in there. Walking there
Speaker 11: and they have these crazy boat buckles and everything. So
Speaker 11: I was like, I'll get one. So I ended up
Speaker 11: you didn't go one. It was fun. And then the
Speaker 11: boots right uh yeah, takoves just right up the right
Speaker 11: up North and North Scottsdale, Kierlyn. That you guys have
Speaker 11: been there, go buy some Ta Coviz. I really enjoy
Speaker 11: those good boots.
Speaker 10: But I will say in the Fitchack, I liked the
Speaker 10: throwback to your college Fitchack, which was a suit that
Speaker 10: you you know, quickly had him. But it was all
Speaker 10: based around this big coat.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 11: So my grandfather, my grandfather, I'm Frank, he had get
Speaker 11: uh had he had gave me that coat a while
Speaker 11: back and I was like really and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 11: I had this from whenever I tried to find it
Speaker 11: the company had shut down like nineteen seventy five, so
Speaker 11: it was like it was something crazy. There's like no
Speaker 11: records of it. So it was the cold. The coat
Speaker 11: is super old. Yeah, I'll break it up maybe in
Speaker 11: like Chicago.
Speaker 7: Game some fur on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy. It's it's super old school for sure.
Speaker 6: Something you'd see like in a Godfather movie.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's something. Yeah, it's like it super big too.
Speaker 6: That's good.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 9: So that's up there on the Cardinals YouTube page. Let's
Speaker 9: throw it back to last Sunday and the game against Cincinnati,
Speaker 9: yet again, a game the Cardinals were in until you
Speaker 9: got to the fourth quarter in this last one, And
Speaker 9: here's Jonathan Gannon talking about that aspect of the season.
Speaker 12: I mean, we're in the game, you know, you had
Speaker 12: a chance to win the game in my opinion, you know,
Speaker 12: and they made a couple more plays than we did.
Speaker 12: But our guys fight. We're competitive right now and every
Speaker 12: game we're playing. We got to start winning some games,
Speaker 12: you know, And so we talked about that, how do
Speaker 12: we do that? So we laid out a blueprint for
Speaker 12: him and go back to work this week.
Speaker 9: You know, I'd say in a lot of regards, at
Speaker 9: least based on the national media, those who aren't around
Speaker 9: the team on a daily basis, the Cardinals have already
Speaker 9: exceeded expectations. Right, Cardinals have looked different on film. Almost
Speaker 9: every one of your opponents has said based on what
Speaker 9: they expect to come into the season. So you just
Speaker 9: first tell us about JG and the culture and how
Speaker 9: things are different and where things are trending right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so definitely things are trending up. I've you know,
Speaker 1: we've been.
Speaker 11: We're on a team last year where I felt when
Speaker 11: you're in kind of a situation we are now with
Speaker 11: the record, guys kind of look at that and I
Speaker 11: kind of, you know, they kind of just you feel
Speaker 11: that ore of guys and you know they tend to
Speaker 11: not maybe care as much, and that's kind of left.
Speaker 11: It's not there anymore. It's you know, focus on this day,
Speaker 11: focus on this, focus on this task, and move in,
Speaker 11: you know, try and get to the games, and you
Speaker 11: just got to finish whenever it comes time. We've been
Speaker 11: in all these close games, I feel like, you know,
Speaker 11: it's been a lot better. You know, when I watched
Speaker 11: the film on Monday after the game, it seems a
Speaker 11: little bit even though we're losing, it's it's it's rough
Speaker 11: right now. Obviously we want to win, but it's not
Speaker 11: the as I would say, belly up as sometimes. You know,
Speaker 11: those games felt like last year. So that the culture
Speaker 11: has changed tremendously.
Speaker 10: It's a results driven league, but we've heard from Gannon
Speaker 10: that it's all about the process and that's going to
Speaker 10: lead to the results. And defensive cordiator nik Rolis actually
Speaker 10: shared the metaphor he shared with the team this week
Speaker 10: about a flower and that when the flower is growing,
Speaker 10: you don't just see the flower itself, right, you see
Speaker 10: the roots, the foundation, even though it's not always pretty,
Speaker 10: the foundation is being set.
Speaker 7: How would you describe the foundation that is being set.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, like I said, the culture is completely different.
Speaker 11: The foundation of how guys work, how guys are here
Speaker 11: in the off season, how guys operate. You know, you
Speaker 11: want good, good, hardworking people just like any other business
Speaker 11: and any other job. You want them in your locker room.
Speaker 11: You want them contributing to the team in a positive manner,
Speaker 11: which I think we've built. We've built that team chemistry.
Speaker 11: You know, guys aren't getting onto other guys when things
Speaker 11: are going wrong. Guys are building each other up, trying to,
Speaker 11: you know, make each other better. Every day in practice,
Speaker 11: offense versus defense, special teams, one on ones. Guys are
Speaker 11: doing really well when it's in that aspect of building
Speaker 11: that culture, building that foundation of what you need to
Speaker 11: have a great organization and think for a great future.
Speaker 9: I smiled when you brought the flower analogy because Nick
Speaker 9: Sirianni and Philly. When he brought that up at the
Speaker 9: press conference, Philly a tough down. He took a whole
Speaker 9: lot of heat when he made that flower analogy.
Speaker 6: What are you talking about flowers in football?
Speaker 12: Right?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 9: You know, and Joe at the bar was all I rate. Well,
Speaker 9: it turns out he was right. They went from a
Speaker 9: four win team to two years later they won the
Speaker 9: NFC and win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And from what I can tell, you tell me true
Speaker 9: or false? MANI I support Jonathan in and reset this
Speaker 9: roster in the off season.
Speaker 6: And really the top criterion was we want players who are.
Speaker 11: Serious about football. Yeah, would you agree with that? I
Speaker 11: would definitely agree. You know, guys, they want guys to
Speaker 11: come in the building and be ready to work. And
Speaker 11: you know, this isn't it's it's more than a sport. Obviously,
Speaker 11: when you're playing at this level, it's a you know,
Speaker 11: it's a lifestyle that you have to live. You have
Speaker 11: to breathe it, you have to love this game. You know,
Speaker 11: you operate Like I was telling her earlier, it's like
Speaker 11: this might have been the earliest I've gotten out this week.
Speaker 11: And you know, you get up at seven, you work
Speaker 11: till seven, You're putting in all this time and it's
Speaker 11: not you know, you want fans to know, everyone to know,
Speaker 11: like you you do all this stuff you don't you.
Speaker 1: Don't want to lose.
Speaker 11: You don't want you know, to put those you know,
Speaker 11: like in the past, like some things have been out
Speaker 11: there about the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: You don't want that by no means you.
Speaker 11: Know, everyone spends her harder and money to come out
Speaker 11: while support us, you know, so we want to play
Speaker 11: the best, be the best whenever you guys are coming
Speaker 11: out twenty four to seven.
Speaker 7: And it's not just big name players.
Speaker 10: I feel like when you're looking at the defense right
Speaker 10: it's it's players who are stepping up, whether that's from
Speaker 10: injuries or whatever it might be. And I think a
Speaker 10: great example from Sunday would be safety Cavan Wallace, who
Speaker 10: was acquired just before the regular season started.
Speaker 7: He had that interception, he had the big tackle for
Speaker 7: a one on the goal line stand.
Speaker 10: I mean, how have you seen those type of players
Speaker 10: who are stepping in and stepping up?
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, those players are high level players. No
Speaker 11: matter where you go, if you're on a football field
Speaker 11: in the NFL, that you're a high level player. I
Speaker 11: truly believe that. Because NFL is very hard across the board.
Speaker 11: It is very hard. That's why most guys, you know,
Speaker 11: it's you're kind of in and out of the league.
Speaker 11: Sometimes it's a very hard, very hard league. It's very tough.
Speaker 11: But those guys that have come in, they've been around
Speaker 11: just for a little bit. They've you know, bought into
Speaker 11: the system that we're trying to build, what we're trying
Speaker 11: to do as a culture. And there it's like, you know,
Speaker 11: it's like they've been with us for months and some
Speaker 11: of them really haven't. Well I mean now they have,
Speaker 11: but at the time, yeah, and uh, you know some
Speaker 11: of the guys that were younger, the rookies. You know,
Speaker 11: we had some guys up front get injured, and that's
Speaker 11: gonna happen every year. You just need guys that buy in,
Speaker 11: step up, and you know they're gonna make mistakes. Everyone
Speaker 11: makes mistakes, and we kind of just let them go
Speaker 11: and just hey, focus on the next thing.
Speaker 1: You know, how do we respond? How do we do that?
Speaker 10: I will say too real quick that off that interception,
Speaker 10: you were miked up for the wire because the Cardinals
Speaker 10: mike up a player every game and put a whole
Speaker 10: piece together. So if you don't renew that, you can
Speaker 10: go to our YouTube channel and.
Speaker 7: Check those out.
Speaker 10: So Zavon was miked up this past week, and I
Speaker 10: loved After Kevon Wallace had that interception, everyone on the
Speaker 10: defense is running to the end zone to celebrate, and
Speaker 10: you're you have your mic on your run, You're looking
Speaker 10: like I'm tired.
Speaker 7: You get to the bench, you look at Dutch like
Speaker 7: I'm tired.
Speaker 11: It's definitely it's definitely better whenever you catch it. When
Speaker 11: we get your interception closer to you know, our uh
Speaker 11: their end zone down there, that way, we can just
Speaker 11: walk right there to the end zone. Uh you know,
Speaker 11: I ran all the way down there. I looked at
Speaker 11: k Why, which is Kayzer Why. He's the number seven,
Speaker 11: our middle linebacker, and he's like, man, dog, I'm tired.
Speaker 11: I said, me too, I gotta go. I took a picture.
Speaker 11: I left, moved straight to the right Dennis. I sit
Speaker 11: down beside Dennis, and then this was like, man, that
Speaker 11: looked really exhausting. I said, yeah, it was as I
Speaker 11: just played seven plays, ten plays and you know, come
Speaker 11: off to the side and need to breathe.
Speaker 6: So I've noticed a trend. Dennis Gardek isn't running all
Speaker 6: the way down there to strike a post. He refuses
Speaker 6: to do it.
Speaker 11: He won't do it that. That guy has many talents.
Speaker 11: He's on special teams, he's on defense. I mean, he
Speaker 11: can do so much. But that's he has his ways
Speaker 11: and those are his ways. He will not change from that.
Speaker 9: Because in the Dallas game, Kaiser White had the interception
Speaker 9: to seal it right, and he wasn't on the field,
Speaker 9: and instead.
Speaker 6: Of running all the way down there to join.
Speaker 9: The celebration, instead he gave props to Cam Thomas because
Speaker 9: Cam Thomas had the stop on first and second down. Yeah,
Speaker 9: that led to the third down interception, and I'm like, wow,
Speaker 9: that was really thoughtful. He went over and congratulate a
Speaker 9: Cam and then I talked to him later after the game.
Speaker 9: He said, well, it was mainly I just want to
Speaker 9: run down there, so you know, I had to congratulate someone,
Speaker 9: so I went up to camp because he was sitting
Speaker 9: next to me on the bench.
Speaker 11: Sometimes, though, you look at the pictures the next day
Speaker 11: and you see all the guys in the picture and
Speaker 11: you're like, dang, I should have ran down there, So
Speaker 11: you gotta bite the bullet.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you go run down there for sure.
Speaker 9: Well, look, we're gonna talk about your sack. We'll talk
Speaker 9: more about the transition from middle linebacker.
Speaker 6: Think about it.
Speaker 9: He had one hundred tackle season last year wearing the
Speaker 9: green dot, meaning he was calling the defense. He had
Speaker 9: a position switch and so a lot of change for
Speaker 9: Zamon Collins in year three of his career.
Speaker 6: We'll talk about all that.
Speaker 9: We'll hear from Dennis Gardeck himself what he had to
Speaker 9: say about you as a former school valedictorian.
Speaker 1: By the way, we'll get into that.
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Speaker 6: Firing.
Speaker 5: Your sight is tipped and picked off by Zavan Collins
Speaker 5: had the forty yard line of tackled at the thirty seven.
Speaker 2: That is a huge play for the Cardinals.
Speaker 6: Bumbled the ball.
Speaker 5: The Cardinals have it in their hands and it's their ball.
Speaker 5: Savan Collins comes up with it. That the two takeaways
Speaker 5: for Zavon Collins here in the first half, short set
Speaker 5: in trouble steps up and takes a sack at the
Speaker 5: forty yard line. Saving Collins with the takedown. By the way,
Speaker 5: did you see the lasso sack? Did just see the
Speaker 5: celebration from David Collins. Prescott sacked back in the twenty
Speaker 5: eight yard line by Savan Collins.
Speaker 6: Savan Collins did not take the bait.
Speaker 5: Burls got it back to throw facing pressure. He's sacked
Speaker 5: back at the thirty five yard line, Savan Collins with
Speaker 5: the takedown.
Speaker 6: There was the lasso again.
Speaker 9: How about it on the sack and you're the montage
Speaker 9: there Weeks one through five, Zavon Collins our special guest
Speaker 9: tonight on the Big Red Rage, presented by sand Tan
Speaker 9: Forard in Gilbert. We are live from Trophy and Chandler
Speaker 9: located on Queen Creek Road between Price and Dobson. So
Speaker 9: you had that Washington debut week one you had to
Speaker 9: pick and the Fumbel recovery and ever since two and
Speaker 9: a half sacks, three quarterback hits, a dozen tackles and
Speaker 9: Danny Serek, you know he's been doing it from a
Speaker 9: different position than he did last year. So Zabell, let's
Speaker 9: just start there. I mean, this transition is it an
Speaker 9: ongoing process? Do you feel right at home right now?
Speaker 9: Where you at comfort level.
Speaker 11: Wise, Yeah, I think, you know, the job of being
Speaker 11: an athlete at the high level you have to adapt
Speaker 11: and you know, be ready for change. You know, the
Speaker 11: situation that we were in as a team, I was
Speaker 11: kind of like, you know, I'll do whatever the team
Speaker 11: needs me to do at the time. Obviously, you know,
Speaker 11: we have a great coach, Rob He's unreal the way
Speaker 11: he lets us operate within a you know, a gray area.
Speaker 11: It's not so black and whity. It's not his way
Speaker 11: or the highway. He lets us do what we want
Speaker 11: to do as long as we stay in the confinements
Speaker 11: of you know, kind of his rules.
Speaker 1: So that's nice. It's been going well.
Speaker 11: The transition has been well, it's ongoing, just like any
Speaker 11: other position at any other let you know, if you've
Speaker 11: been playing it forever or you just.
Speaker 1: Kind of change to it.
Speaker 11: It's not something that I was, you know, not new to,
Speaker 11: but it's something that I'm doing a lot more of now,
Speaker 11: predominantly doing that being off the edge, being off the ball.
Speaker 11: There's obviously there's chances in the future to see me
Speaker 11: do that, depending on packages and stuff. But yeah, it's
Speaker 11: there's you know, it's always open to everything.
Speaker 10: When We were talking the throughout the off season when
Speaker 10: the season was getting started about this position change to
Speaker 10: your teammates in that room, your coaches. The first thing
Speaker 10: everybody said when asked what does Zave and Collins have
Speaker 10: that's going to make them successful in this position switch
Speaker 10: was your intelligence. It was always very quickly followed by
Speaker 10: your size and how big and strong you are, But
Speaker 10: your IQ is what everybody started with. How how seamless
Speaker 10: has that been from the mental side, not just moving
Speaker 10: inside to outside. But now you're not calling the defense.
Speaker 10: You feel like you're being able to play a little
Speaker 10: more freely. You're not having to you know, think and much.
Speaker 10: You can just kind of react.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you kind of just hear their job and
Speaker 1: go do it.
Speaker 11: Translating it can be in hassle sometimes because you know
Speaker 11: there's different formations, different sets. You're having to tell ten
Speaker 11: other grown men. You know, some guys have been in
Speaker 11: the league ten years what to do, and sometimes you
Speaker 11: got to be able to tell them, you know, hey,
Speaker 11: you're screwing up right here. You got to get this right.
Speaker 11: You have to know all the checks, all the you know,
Speaker 11: anties at third and two, third and one. They're doing
Speaker 11: hurry up, what are they an eleven, twelve? All this
Speaker 11: stuff you got to you gotta know, it's a it's
Speaker 11: a long list, guys. I could go on forever, but yeah,
Speaker 11: it's it's nice kind of being able to play a
Speaker 11: little bit more free to hear the call go from there,
Speaker 11: no more rules and that's it.
Speaker 9: Well, here's Dennis Gardak talking about that. Okay, all right,
Speaker 9: your partner in crime. And this was this is over
Speaker 9: the summer, this is the off season. Here's Gardack on
Speaker 9: Zavian Collins.
Speaker 13: He's got to be one of the smartest outside beckers
Speaker 13: there's ever been, just coming from inside. He knows how
Speaker 13: everything's tied together so well, so he's incredibly smart. And
Speaker 13: then he's actually huge. Yeah, if you guys haven't noticed,
Speaker 13: I saw a picture of me next to him, and
Speaker 13: I look like his kid brother.
Speaker 9: So he You know, you look at your outside linebacker
Speaker 9: room and nine different guys have sacks on this team
Speaker 9: right now. And there's guys everyone's like a little bit different.
Speaker 9: Gardak is nothing like you in terms of body type.
Speaker 6: Victor d.
Speaker 9: Mucage right, just a raging bowl. And then you got
Speaker 9: bi Jo jolr my A Sanders coming back. I know
Speaker 9: I'm missing guys right now, but everybody seems to be
Speaker 9: a little different. Do you think that works to your
Speaker 9: advantage because these you guys get into a location. I mean,
Speaker 9: these tackles can't really lock into one sword of rush.
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's kind of the upper hand that you have
Speaker 11: on the offense as a defensive ends. Outside linebackers, I
Speaker 11: kind of you know, it's kind of like the the
Speaker 11: bullpin of baseball. You know, you get in there, they
Speaker 11: throw different pictures. Everything's ever oh new pictures up. So
Speaker 11: whenever you're throwing different guys at a tackle, his set
Speaker 11: will change. Sometimes. You know, if it's Dennis, they're going
Speaker 11: to be scared of his speed. You know, has been
Speaker 11: Maja the same thing speed Ben. You know, you talk
Speaker 11: about Victor and how he can, you know, really put
Speaker 11: pressure by physicality, and you know some guys, there's some
Speaker 11: guys out there that can kind of do it all.
Speaker 11: But uh yeah, that's that's pretty crazy. I can't believe
Speaker 11: Dennis said that about me. That's a nice thing he's
Speaker 11: ever said.
Speaker 9: He also said, by the way, that it's much easier
Speaker 9: to play outside linebacker than what you were doing last year.
Speaker 9: He's like, look, outside linebacker, let's boil it down. Either
Speaker 9: the place coming at you or it's going away from you.
Speaker 1: Yep, you right, that's about it.
Speaker 7: The two of you are pretty close.
Speaker 10: And for the last couple of years Dennis has we've
Speaker 10: really just seen sparks. He was more of that special
Speaker 10: teams player. He has been phenomenal this season. He's been starting,
Speaker 10: he's been very active, a big part of this defense.
Speaker 10: Knowing how hard he works and how close the two
Speaker 10: of you are, what has that been like for you
Speaker 10: to see this season he's had so far.
Speaker 11: Dennis is someone who, like I was saying, the culture,
Speaker 11: he's one of those guys that he was already had
Speaker 11: that culture within him, so you know, he didn't have
Speaker 11: to change at all. It wasn't nothing anything new for
Speaker 11: him to come in work every day, take care of
Speaker 11: his body, eat right, study all the film, know what
Speaker 11: to do all the ins and out, to be adaptable,
Speaker 11: be ready to change. That's something that was already built
Speaker 11: with inside of him. So he does that every day
Speaker 11: on a daily basis. So that makes him an incredible player.
Speaker 11: And then obviously you know him getting his chance to
Speaker 11: go out there and shine and you know he's extended
Speaker 11: from special teams now to defense and has done all
Speaker 11: this stuff. I go to him ask him like what
Speaker 11: is this and he's like, well, I just you know,
Speaker 11: been down turn. I'm like, okay, I can do that.
Speaker 11: But he's very smart. He helps me translate sometimes the
Speaker 11: things that you're feeling as a paser special because it's
Speaker 11: so much about Phil into the things that I want
Speaker 11: to do. So we kind of worked with tandem with
Speaker 11: each other and then we get to work a lot
Speaker 11: with drops.
Speaker 1: You know, he's very good.
Speaker 11: He played a little bit of off ball early on
Speaker 11: in his career like I did, and then you know,
Speaker 11: so we're trying to help guys that are younger and
Speaker 11: understand that have been probably more predominantly just rushing the
Speaker 11: edge and not dropping that much sometimes trying to help
Speaker 11: them with understanding coverages, understanding route concepts, stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So he's very smart.
Speaker 6: You mentioned the switch off ball to Now you're on
Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage. Here's your position.
Speaker 9: Coach Outside linebackers coach Rob Rodriguez on Zavian Collins.
Speaker 14: That Saban you see today will be a different Zavan
Speaker 14: In December. We ask something very difficult of him when
Speaker 14: we asked him to move here.
Speaker 1: This is not easy.
Speaker 14: Not everybody can do it, and so the work that
Speaker 14: he's had to put in just to get to this
Speaker 14: point has been extraordinary. He just shows up every day
Speaker 14: and keeps fighting. I know how far he can go,
Speaker 14: and I know how far he will go. I don't
Speaker 14: know how long it's going to take, and I just
Speaker 14: love that every day he doesn't take steps back. He
Speaker 14: keeps pushing and pushing. Even when he runs into some roadblocks,
Speaker 14: he just keeps coming back.
Speaker 9: You know what's interesting in Minnesota during training camp, I
Speaker 9: talked to some of the personnel guys, some of the coaches.
Speaker 9: They said, because they were with different teams at the
Speaker 9: time when you were coming out in the draft three
Speaker 9: years ago, they had you earmarked as an outside linebacker.
Speaker 11: Yeah, we played a very different off defense in college.
Speaker 11: We were at three three five and it was very weird.
Speaker 11: But sometimes I'd come off the edge, sometimes I'd blitz
Speaker 11: in the get in between the tackles. It was very
Speaker 11: very weird, unorthodox for sure, So guys really didn't know
Speaker 11: what to do with me. And it's kind of been
Speaker 11: like that since I was going into college. So it's
Speaker 11: nice now to kind of finally just have a home
Speaker 11: and stick with it.
Speaker 9: Here's a rando question I saw in your bio. I
Speaker 9: didn't realize this that you won the Bronco Nigersky Trophy
Speaker 9: when you were at Tulsa. I mean, that is big time.
Speaker 9: I was thinking, like, the Bronco Nigersky Trophy, that's gotta
Speaker 9: be pretty dang cool. I mean, I could google it
Speaker 9: up right now, But tell me, what does that thing
Speaker 9: look like? It's it's well and where do you have it?
Speaker 9: Where's it residing right now?
Speaker 11: The Nagurski Trophy was actually the plaque okay, the bed
Speaker 11: and airquin was.
Speaker 1: It was a big trophy. Yeah, so it was a
Speaker 1: big one.
Speaker 6: So it sort of belies the name is what you're saying.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah it was. But those are some awesome trophies.
Speaker 11: I actually don't have those. My mom has those. If
Speaker 11: you walk into my mom's house, it looks like, I
Speaker 11: don't know, it's it's like a memoir of me in
Speaker 11: college and all this stuff. So it's like, Mom, you
Speaker 11: gotta you know, let's put something else up.
Speaker 6: Do you still get a text from your mom on
Speaker 6: game day?
Speaker 1: Every day, every game, every game? Yep, every game.
Speaker 6: Can you share as a class of iron info? What
Speaker 6: does she say?
Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, you guys, do I have time?
Speaker 6: Sure? Right, So it's good Danny.
Speaker 9: How about that mom still texts big time tough guy
Speaker 9: outside linebacker Right. NFL budding stars Zaman Collin still gets
Speaker 9: a text from his mom before kickoff every game.
Speaker 11: She said, good morning, sunshine, be great today. I think
Speaker 11: it's a three sec day. I said, you want a lot?
Speaker 1: Mom? Keep got close to do you? I love you
Speaker 1: so much? Yeah?
Speaker 11: So she texts, she text me stuff like that. I
Speaker 11: was I was raised by single mother. She's me and
Speaker 11: her very close. But yeah, she text me all the time,
Speaker 11: and she yeah, but she always She's someone that's always,
Speaker 11: you know, been in my corner. But she's also expected
Speaker 11: a lot. Always she's you know, she requires the most,
Speaker 11: which I think has set me up for success.
Speaker 1: In life for sure.
Speaker 10: When it goes back to Rob Rodriguez, your coach, we've
Speaker 10: seen all off season with this change, you were getting
Speaker 10: a lot of one on one work with him off
Speaker 10: on the side during practice. How has he helped really
Speaker 10: speed up this process for you.
Speaker 7: To make this switch. Yes, is first his first time
Speaker 7: too working in the NFL.
Speaker 11: Well Yeah, he as a true positional coach. He's always,
Speaker 11: you know, been an assistant, and he's worked around some
Speaker 11: great guys. He's worked around JG and Nick obviously for
Speaker 11: a few years back in the past when they were
Speaker 11: all at Minnesota. But you know, it's most of the time,
Speaker 11: whenever you have a position switch and they get guys
Speaker 11: like they try and just like break them down to
Speaker 11: complete bare bones and try and do all this stuff
Speaker 11: with them, which I mean kind of hurts players sometimes
Speaker 11: at their core because they've been doing that for so long.
Speaker 11: He kind of just took what I was telling him,
Speaker 11: what I was giving him and said and just made
Speaker 11: minor tweaks here and there. And we continue to do that,
Speaker 11: make minor tweaks. Stand the fill your body, understand the
Speaker 11: field of the tackles, of the guards, of what they're
Speaker 11: giving you, how to use your hands, how to use
Speaker 11: your body. So you know, it's just been minor adjustments
Speaker 11: and that's been awesome.
Speaker 9: You guys have been at the bottom of the league
Speaker 9: in blitz rate this year. I mean did you expect that, right?
Speaker 9: I mean last year, man, you guys blitz you were
Speaker 9: like top three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we putched a lot last year.
Speaker 11: It's a lot of a lot of pressure calls this
Speaker 11: year kind of just you know, playing defense and that
Speaker 11: we've been playing well, I believe, So.
Speaker 9: It's kind of refreshing actually in a lot of ways.
Speaker 9: Episode sixty five of The Day Pash Podcast faturing Cardinals
Speaker 9: quarterback Josh Dobbs. This is a really good listen to
Speaker 9: pash pod and you can find it via Twitter at
Speaker 9: pash pot. In fact, when we come back, somebody asked
Speaker 9: Josh Dobbs if he believes in UFOs and aliens.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 9: Somebody got really bored during the press conference and asked
Speaker 9: him that question at the end, and so we'll hear
Speaker 9: the answer. We'll also hear what Zaman had to say
Speaker 9: with JJ Watt last year when it came to hockey.
Speaker 9: Oh that's can't miss. That'll be interest. We're live from
Speaker 9: Trophy and Chandler. Look at a Queen Creek Road between
Speaker 9: Price and Dobson. It's the Big Red Rage with Zaman
Speaker 9: Collins presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert.
Speaker 5: And there's an injured Cardinal and boy that Cardinals cannot
Speaker 5: afford to have anybody else go down in the defense,
Speaker 5: but got a man down at the thirty eight yard
Speaker 5: line and at Zavon Collins.
Speaker 3: Oh boy, he looks to be in a lot of
Speaker 3: pain right now.
Speaker 5: He's motioning to the team doc as if he got
Speaker 5: poked in the eye and kind of looking at his
Speaker 5: right eye.
Speaker 6: There's something going on there.
Speaker 1: You have to wear a patch for a while. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wore a patch for the first two days.
Speaker 11: I'm telling you, this right eye was all over the
Speaker 11: place like I was seeing double of everything.
Speaker 1: Did you talk like a pirate? No? I didn't.
Speaker 11: I had a lot of people text me though, and
Speaker 11: just send me like emojis of yeah, pirates or whatever
Speaker 11: it was.
Speaker 1: It's funny, you're a slimy dog, baby me.
Speaker 6: Articles are kidding me.
Speaker 9: Hoists see what happens, and then past laughs and he just.
Speaker 6: Encourages it more.
Speaker 9: Whenever Wolf talks like a pirate, he doesn't need any
Speaker 9: I mean, any sort of excuse. Wolf's gonna talk like
Speaker 9: a pirate. And that's all we needed. Was Jimal Mahundral
Speaker 9: asking Zaven Collins in the locker room about the eyepatch
Speaker 9: he had to wear for a while after the Dallas injury.
Speaker 9: And you could hear all of us holding our breath
Speaker 9: on air because true or false, you were in a
Speaker 9: lot of pain, correct, Yeah, I was.
Speaker 11: It was an injury that I've never really had happen before.
Speaker 11: I've kind of been poked in the eye, comes with
Speaker 11: you know football. I've had hands go through the face,
Speaker 11: mask hits you give you a black eye, but this
Speaker 11: was like, it was pretty vicious. I don't think it
Speaker 11: was on purpose. But he got Dennis too, not as bad,
Speaker 11: but yeah, it injured the you know, the upper right
Speaker 11: part of my right eye, caused some nerve damage. It
Speaker 11: took like chunks of my eyeball out.
Speaker 1: It was crazy.
Speaker 11: So it was I have some pretty brutal pictures on
Speaker 11: my eye right after that I would not share.
Speaker 10: But you don't think about that, like with injuries with
Speaker 10: football players. You think of like broken bones, right or
Speaker 10: just look you shoulder. You don't think about hearing someone
Speaker 10: like Xavi and say, yeah, I looked in the mirror
Speaker 10: and it did not look good because I was looking
Speaker 10: straight ahead with my left time I right, I was
Speaker 10: looking right up.
Speaker 11: Now, come on, now, you're exaggerating that, right, No, it
Speaker 11: was so like you know, you look at yourself in
Speaker 11: the mirror, you know, brush your teeth and so like
Speaker 11: when you look in the back of your eyes, each
Speaker 11: wanted left one was good, the right one was I
Speaker 11: mean like straight up in the area.
Speaker 1: Was pointing it up. So at that point I'd freaked out.
Speaker 11: In the blue tint, you can kind of tell when
Speaker 11: something's wrong whenever, you know, if you have a cut
Speaker 11: on your face, everyone's like, no, you're fine, you're not bleeding,
Speaker 11: and then you see, like you touch it and you're like, oh,
Speaker 11: there's blood. You know, everyone kind of freaks out when
Speaker 11: you're a kid. See, this is the same thing, except
Speaker 11: there's no I know, there's no blood or anything like that.
Speaker 11: And I'm pretty usually calm with injuries. It was a
Speaker 11: lot of pain. But when I was walking into the
Speaker 11: locker room, I was like, man, I better stop in
Speaker 11: the mirror and to see what's wrong. And yeah, when
Speaker 11: I looked, it freaked me out pretty good.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 9: Savan Collins is our guest on The Big Red Rage,
Speaker 9: presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert were live from Trophy
Speaker 9: and Chandler, located on queen Quek Road between Price and
Speaker 9: Dobson And if JJ Watt was around, I'm guessing he'd
Speaker 9: probably give you a hard time about that he retired.
Speaker 9: He's living the good life, his best life right about now.
Speaker 9: With hockey season now officially underway and the Kytie's open
Speaker 9: their season in New Jersey against the Devils tomorrow, let's
Speaker 9: hear from hard knocks last year. This was a good
Speaker 9: little exchange here. I guess jj WA was trying to
Speaker 9: coach up a little bit.
Speaker 1: On hockey Rufen rules. How many people are on the rings?
Speaker 1: Are on the ice at one time? Five players? One
Speaker 1: go in and then if you get like a foul,
Speaker 1: you have to like set in the box, right, So
Speaker 1: if I put you in. Giant asked, what are those
Speaker 1: shoes called?
Speaker 15: They wear skates? Ice skates. I couldn't think of it anyways. Okay, no,
Speaker 15: I'm not. I just skipped my mind. Where we're gonna
Speaker 15: go skating here in Arizona?
Speaker 1: Skating? No, what if we fell through, We're not going
Speaker 1: on them. Going a pond.
Speaker 11: Is what you do, right, you would call a flat
Speaker 11: on your face with that center of private this.
Speaker 1: Is what you do. Yeah, you got you do like
Speaker 1: a speed skater. Make Bonnie Blair.
Speaker 6: That's what happened.
Speaker 9: Standing when one guy's from Wisconsin and the other guys
Speaker 9: from smalltown Oklahoma.
Speaker 6: That that's rights. Not a lot of hockey. Yeah, how
Speaker 6: many Oklahoma?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 11: That that brought me back to childhood memory to my mom. Actually,
Speaker 11: so you know when it'd get really cold your kid,
Speaker 11: you know, it snows, you go outside, you're out of school,
Speaker 11: you're doing all that stuff, right, it was always hate
Speaker 11: stay off the ice, you fall through, it's dangerous. Yeah,
Speaker 11: you know you still walk out there on the ice.
Speaker 11: So that was what I was thinking. You know, you
Speaker 11: right on the ice, skating on the ice.
Speaker 7: Oh so did you go skating with JJ.
Speaker 1: No, we never made it out.
Speaker 11: I wanted to, but unfortunately that was right during it
Speaker 11: was right as the season, in his offseason. I ended
Speaker 11: up going back to Oklahoma, so I never got to
Speaker 11: make it out with him. I'm sure we will one day, though,
Speaker 11: I'm sure we will.
Speaker 6: It's good. It might be a violation of your contract,
Speaker 6: so it's.
Speaker 1: Probably a good big contract.
Speaker 6: You dend on that one. That's good.
Speaker 9: Uh. So here's one Josh Dobbs earlier this week, and
Speaker 9: Danny didn't believe me. Danny didn't believe me that I
Speaker 9: was going to ask him the question. And at the
Speaker 9: end of the press conference, you know there was a
Speaker 9: moment there and Josh Dobbs, for those who don't know,
Speaker 9: aerospace engineer does internships at NASA in the off season,
Speaker 9: speaking off seasons, and you know, Congress had these hearings
Speaker 9: over the summer about UFOs and aliens. I think it's topical,
Speaker 9: and so we asked him, Josh Dobbs, do you believe.
Speaker 8: I do not believe in UFOs and aliens. It was
Speaker 8: funny though, So when I got traded this crazy story,
Speaker 8: I was sitting in my apartment and so me and
Speaker 8: my friend Trey Smith, who's a really good offensive guard
Speaker 8: for the Kansas City Chiefs, when we start a little podcast,
Speaker 8: so he's a believer in UFOs and aliens, I'm not.
Speaker 8: So we're having a very tense debate for one of
Speaker 8: our podcast episodes, even support where we had Congressman Tim Burchett,
Speaker 8: because he's from Tennessee. He's giving us like the inside scoop,
Speaker 8: like the questions he's asking, and literally an hour into
Speaker 8: this podcast, that's why I got a call from Andrew Barry.
Speaker 8: I was gonna trade her. So I was like, hey, y'all,
Speaker 8: we're gonna have to finish up this conversation a.
Speaker 9: Little bit later, how about that they're having the intense debate,
Speaker 9: they bring in a congressman and all of a sudden,
Speaker 9: his phone rings. I gotta take this. It's the GM
Speaker 9: of the Browns. You've been traded to the Cardinals. Yeah
Speaker 9: that's quite a story.
Speaker 11: That's a change of direction in stories for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 11: that'll make that conversation real, serious, real.
Speaker 9: So you got an aerospace engineer, You got a bunch
Speaker 9: of guys from Stanford like Zach Ertz right and Michael Wilson.
Speaker 9: You got Rondell Moore went to Purdue and got his
Speaker 9: degree in two and a half years. Yet you were
Speaker 9: a four point zero guy in high school, the valedictorian.
Speaker 9: So you know, I don't know what's the power ranking
Speaker 9: of brain power right now in the locker.
Speaker 1: Room, I don't know.
Speaker 11: I think I'm above Zach and Rondell for sure. I'm
Speaker 11: not sure about Michael, and definitely not Josh. I went
Speaker 11: to Tulsa. Tulsa was a small private school, you know,
Speaker 11: very prestigious school in the Midwest. Yeah, it was fun
Speaker 11: going there, very hard, It wasn't It was no easy
Speaker 11: ride for sure. But yeah, I think Josh is probably
Speaker 11: the smartest on the team by far.
Speaker 6: Yeah, i'd say something, yeah, that'd be my guess.
Speaker 7: Yeah, how did you end up at Tulsa? Like, well,
Speaker 7: how did you? I guess we should take it back
Speaker 7: even further.
Speaker 10: In a small town in Oklahoma where you grew up,
Speaker 10: how did you get into football?
Speaker 7: Because you were a quarterback in a safety right.
Speaker 11: Yeah, So going back to Oklahoma, small town, it's very
Speaker 11: rich in football history where I was from. We had
Speaker 11: actually a few guys from a long time ago play
Speaker 11: in the league. Was a very long time ago. But
Speaker 11: you know, every once in a while have some guys
Speaker 11: go to smaller schools. One or two guys go to
Speaker 11: ou OSU. But that had been since the eighties. Being
Speaker 11: from a small town where you kind of get looked
Speaker 11: over and recruiting because you really just don't play anyone
Speaker 11: had all the other tangibles there was smart, knew what
Speaker 11: to do, had the right size to play right speed,
Speaker 11: just had no film when it was coming to I
Speaker 11: was playing guys that you know, they're just.
Speaker 9: I mean the high school pictures, it looks like you're
Speaker 9: playing against the kicker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like.
Speaker 6: Twenty one kickers out there. That's what it looks like.
Speaker 11: We were beating the breaks off of them for sure,
Speaker 11: and but yeah, so no one really take me in.
Speaker 11: You know, Tulsa, That's where Bill Young was at the time.
Speaker 11: He's a big coach. In college, he played, he was
Speaker 11: in the league for a little bit a long time ago.
Speaker 11: He offered me, and that was my only offer. I
Speaker 11: signed as an athlete and not know when I was
Speaker 11: gonna play. We started off ball linebacker and kind of
Speaker 11: just went from there and this is kind of where
Speaker 11: I've end up now.
Speaker 1: It's amazing.
Speaker 9: He ran for four thousand yards and like fifty touchdowns
Speaker 9: in high school. If I was a parent, I'd come
Speaker 9: down and take my kid off the field. I mean,
Speaker 9: you're running six foot four now two hundred and seventy pounds.
Speaker 6: How has that been? I mean, what was your weight
Speaker 6: when you first entered Tulsa.
Speaker 11: So first entering Tulsa, I was like six three growing still,
Speaker 11: and then I was two hundred and twenty pounds and
Speaker 11: so now I'm yeah, and then it's changed. Obviously I
Speaker 11: got kind of too heavy in college. They wanted to
Speaker 11: bring it down, so we brought it down to like
Speaker 11: two sixty. And then in the league that he didn't
Speaker 11: like that, so I was like, Okay, we'll get to
Speaker 11: two fifty five. And then now since new change of
Speaker 11: organization change the position, I'm back to two seventy. So
Speaker 11: it's like being able to fluctuate with your body and
Speaker 11: stuff like that. You got to be in tune with
Speaker 11: your body. You got to be in tune with your health.
Speaker 11: So it's that's been fun. It's been easy for me.
Speaker 11: It's not something that I've ever worried about.
Speaker 9: So like, when you did that in the off season
Speaker 9: to two seventy, did you like just walk in and
Speaker 9: order the left side of the menu?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I just walked like I kind of Yeah, I
Speaker 11: just eat more, that's about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna have ice time. I have ice cream
Speaker 1: at now.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good deal.
Speaker 10: I was gonna say, it's is there something you can't
Speaker 10: eat now that you miss that you go in on
Speaker 10: the off.
Speaker 11: Season in the off season that yeah, I kind of
Speaker 11: just eat whatever.
Speaker 1: You know, there's not not too many.
Speaker 11: So I grew up in a town there or town
Speaker 11: populations two thousand people and that's large. I graduated with
Speaker 11: forty people in my high school. That was in my class.
Speaker 11: The entire you know, freshman through senior just two hundred
Speaker 11: people maybe maybe probably like one hundred and fifty, but
Speaker 11: so we did so growing up there, there's not much
Speaker 11: to eat. It was my grandmother. I grew up every
Speaker 11: night religiously going to my grandmother's house of eating dinner
Speaker 11: or there.
Speaker 7: So in a small town, would you do to stay busy?
Speaker 1: Uh? Not much? I mean hunt fish? That was about it. Yeah, soside.
Speaker 9: So if you could have like a dream hunting trip
Speaker 9: in the off season, where would you go? What would
Speaker 9: you hunt?
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 11: I think here in Arizona. The big Horn rams are
Speaker 11: pretty cool here. Very hard to very hard to be
Speaker 11: able to do that. You got to go into a draw.
Speaker 11: It's a big, long, complicated process. It's funny.
Speaker 9: You know a guy it took more than forty years,
Speaker 9: an older jentle and he finally got one.
Speaker 11: I'm like, man, you know what, I'll just I don't
Speaker 11: know what I'll have to do. You just go to
Speaker 11: Texas and hunt about anything you want. Now, So everything's
Speaker 11: great down there.
Speaker 9: What's amazing, Danny is you look at his file and
Speaker 9: once again true or false, your first sport was gymnastics.
Speaker 11: Yeah, when I was young that was. I told my mom.
Speaker 11: I don't know why I told her that, and she
Speaker 11: was like, all right, let's do it. And we did
Speaker 11: it and then I got way too big.
Speaker 10: You know, there is a rookie that I've talked to
Speaker 10: who also grew up doing gymnastics.
Speaker 7: I want to see if you can guess. I'll give you. Hey,
Speaker 7: it was a rookie. Can you guess all that?
Speaker 10: I think it might surprise people to know this was
Speaker 10: one of his first sports?
Speaker 16: Yes?
Speaker 6: Really?
Speaker 7: Wow? Did you know that? That was just a good guess.
Speaker 11: It's good I think for kids to be in obviously
Speaker 11: not context like I mean, yeah, contact.
Speaker 1: Sports, but for sports for kids to fall over.
Speaker 11: And then be able to get back up, you know
Speaker 11: what I mean? Like that teaches. I don't know what
Speaker 11: it is. Buddy Morris is the one who told me this.
Speaker 11: He gave me like a fifty minute spill about this
Speaker 11: on like a random Tuesday morning about kids need to
Speaker 11: be knocked down picked up, and I'm like, okay, Buddy,
Speaker 11: I gotta go work out.
Speaker 9: It's Buddy Morris. The most strength coach the Rever was
Speaker 9: or Albert. The saying goes about Buddy. You know what's
Speaker 9: funny is I was trying to get some intel, like
Speaker 9: on what makes Dennis Kardek so lethal? Is a pass
Speaker 9: rusher and a lot of guys cited his balance and
Speaker 9: what he does in boxing and like MMA in the
Speaker 9: off season.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's all about hands and eyes. You know, it's
Speaker 11: combative sport obviously, and it's very combative hands on whenever
Speaker 11: it comes to engaging with a tackler, engaging with guards constantly,
Speaker 11: you're catching hands. Sometimes you're matching each other's hands. And yeah,
Speaker 11: he does have an off season. A lot of guys
Speaker 11: do that.
Speaker 9: By the way, you're avoiding the topic. Do you or
Speaker 9: do you not believe in UFOs and aliens?
Speaker 12: Oh?
Speaker 11: Sorry, Yeah, I think I'll believe. It's a vast it's
Speaker 11: a vast space.
Speaker 6: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, how does Josh Dobbs know? I
Speaker 6: don't care what.
Speaker 10: I might as well take off my head's at this
Speaker 10: point because Paul can don't do the rest of.
Speaker 7: The show about Yeah.
Speaker 11: I mean, I don't look past Arizona much more or
Speaker 11: less the space.
Speaker 9: I don't get into that. I mean, a big thinker
Speaker 9: like Josh. I mean, it sounds a little myopic to
Speaker 9: think there's no UFOs and aliens.
Speaker 1: Might be legally binded not to tell us.
Speaker 6: That's, you know, to do the NASA internship, you probably
Speaker 6: signed something.
Speaker 1: You've probably got level of free clearance that we don't
Speaker 1: know about.
Speaker 6: He's probably seen stuff that he just can't tell us about.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree with him on that. Yeah, I do
Speaker 9: agree with that. And that's no doubt he is. Uh,
Speaker 9: he is impressive though. I mean, have you had a
Speaker 9: chance to talk with Josh Dobbs, Like.
Speaker 11: Yeah, We've had a little bit of conversation, not you know,
Speaker 11: in detail like that about what he does. But he's
Speaker 11: very intellectual, dude, very smart.
Speaker 9: I mean for him to come in and just take
Speaker 9: the offense over in like eight days, and I know,
Speaker 9: I know he's in Cleveland, he's familiar with it, but
Speaker 9: to get up there and actually you know, and he's
Speaker 9: changing plays at the line and he's audibly and stuff.
Speaker 11: I mean, it's that position's hard. I looked at one
Speaker 11: of those scripts compared.
Speaker 1: To ours, and it is. I mean it's a lot.
Speaker 9: Yeah you thought playing middle linebackers, right, that's hard? Yeah,
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Speaker 9: up on what the d Backs did against the Dodgers.
Speaker 6: You're gonna go into Sofi and guess what last time
Speaker 6: you went to Sofi?
Speaker 1: You gotta win.
Speaker 6: So what is the formula this time around? Well, last
Speaker 6: Damon Collins.
Speaker 9: When we come back, We're live from Trophy and Chandler
Speaker 9: located on Queen Creek Road between Price and Dobson. Is
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Speaker 5: Had On Connor up the middle into the end zone, touchdown, Arizona.
Speaker 5: James Connor pays it off with a touchdown run to
Speaker 5: give the Cardinals a nine to three.
Speaker 3: Lead, and he's stoked it. Touchdown, Baby, that was sweet.
Speaker 5: Give the Connor pop the left side, trying to get
Speaker 5: the edge, stip farming at the ten, the five, the
Speaker 5: end zone, he's in the Pit's a touchdown for Connor,
Speaker 5: his second of the day.
Speaker 3: Give the ball to an angry man with an angry run.
Speaker 6: James Connor. And that was last year at LA.
Speaker 9: In fact, it's been beat LA each of the last
Speaker 9: two regular season games in La by the Cardinals. It's
Speaker 9: the Big Red Rangel presented by santan Ford and Gilbert
Speaker 9: down the Stretch we call him with Zamon Collins. Everyone
Speaker 9: live from Trophy and Chandler located on Queen Creek Road
Speaker 9: between Price and Dobson. I don't have to tell you
Speaker 9: what a tough tackle James Connor is. When you're on
Speaker 9: the bench right and you get in your gatorade, do
Speaker 9: you ever look up at the big screen and do
Speaker 9: you ever laugh Guys wiping on him or getting trucked
Speaker 9: by James Connor.
Speaker 11: I mean, I just I honestly see that. Yeah, And
Speaker 11: then I see some of the hits that he takes.
Speaker 11: I'm like, man, that has to hurt. And then because
Speaker 11: you know that we're just talking about, you know, how
Speaker 11: guys get hit in the league. You know, Yes, full
Speaker 11: size man coming out another full size man, full speed,
Speaker 11: And yeah, I see the some of the hiss he takes,
Speaker 11: and he just gets right back up and keeps going
Speaker 11: and keeps going, keeps going, and I'm like, man, he's
Speaker 11: definitely runs angry for sure.
Speaker 10: The crazy thing is is recently he was talking to
Speaker 10: the media. If someone was asking about those hits and
Speaker 10: if he wakes up on a Monday fin like he
Speaker 10: got hit by a bus.
Speaker 7: He's like, no, not really, I'm like, how is that possible?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I do.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what is what is a Monday morning like for you?
Speaker 11: Uh? Well, in the morning, you'll get up and it's
Speaker 11: that's like obviously, like when onset soreness, everything can barely move,
Speaker 11: every joint hurts, and then you kind of get up,
Speaker 11: work that out of you do a workout, do a run,
Speaker 11: and then pretty much it'll be gone by Tuesday for
Speaker 11: the most part, unless it's been a brutal game, you know,
Speaker 11: playing people like Sam fran very you know downhill, very
Speaker 11: physical game, people like the Eagles, very physical team. Uh yeah,
Speaker 11: those games are you know, it's gonna be pretty sore.
Speaker 9: What's the worst last year when you were basically playing
Speaker 9: every single snap at middle linebacker?
Speaker 1: Yeah somewhat somewhat.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it wasn't some vicious hits as it is like
Speaker 11: against O Liman the whole time.
Speaker 6: That's true. Yeah, you're right, you trade one for the other.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Well here's your defensive coordinator. Nick rawlis just talking
Speaker 9: about the Rams, their quarterback who was big time.
Speaker 6: They got some big time skill players. Obviously, here's nick rawlis.
Speaker 16: Right now, like they're playing at a at a high
Speaker 16: level quarterbacks. Obviously elite player can put the ball anywhere,
Speaker 16: and he's willing to put the ball anywhere, knows how
Speaker 16: to get out of get it out of his hand fast,
Speaker 16: and uh, the skill are good. Obviously you saw Cooper
Speaker 16: Cup came back. He was definitely featured in that last game.
Speaker 16: He's got huge route tree that you got to account for.
Speaker 16: And overall mcveigh's offense is good.
Speaker 6: No doubt.
Speaker 9: He's one of the still one of the great minds
Speaker 9: offensively in this league. Their top five and passing in
Speaker 9: almost every category. So what what jumps off the film
Speaker 9: when you assess the rams Aapan.
Speaker 11: Yeah, like you said, they spread the ball out very well.
Speaker 11: You know, they get the ball to a lot of
Speaker 11: different players. They've had some young guys to up them
Speaker 11: be very very con contributing to their team. Obviously, Matthew
Speaker 11: Stafford and Cooper Cupper unreal players. Like they're saying the
Speaker 11: route that he you know, if you're playing, okay, we'll
Speaker 11: switch it up. We'll play outside leverage, he'll run something
Speaker 11: inside inside leverage. He'll you know, and they can do
Speaker 11: it on the fly by hand signals, all these things.
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford's very smart.
Speaker 11: And the way he checks in and out of you know, coverages, blitches,
Speaker 11: all this stuff.
Speaker 1: It's it's unreal.
Speaker 10: It's interesting because Matthew Stafford might be so far this
Speaker 10: season the most immobile quarterback you would have faced in
Speaker 10: terms of he doesn't typically extend plays the way that
Speaker 10: some of the other quarterbacks you face have. But what
Speaker 10: you were saying, he's been in the league for so
Speaker 10: long he can see everything or read it so well
Speaker 10: that that doesn't really matter.
Speaker 7: That's not going to stop him from finding success.
Speaker 11: Yeah, he he He can definitely split the ball out
Speaker 11: whenever he wants to whoever he wants. He can make
Speaker 11: any throw on the field. Great arm, great at reading coverages.
Speaker 11: And you know, we'll expose you if you can do.
Speaker 11: If you do some things wrong, well you're gonna like
Speaker 11: this number.
Speaker 9: He's been sacked a dozen times in the past three games.
Speaker 9: So we'll see, we'll see if the Cardinals can get hold.
Speaker 9: I'm curious, like last year, you're playing middle linebacker, so
Speaker 9: to what degree is it middle line back against quarterback?
Speaker 9: You're checking into something. No, he's checking out as something.
Speaker 9: How much of that cat mouse game goes on?
Speaker 15: You know?
Speaker 11: For a QB, I think it's more about the disguise
Speaker 11: of the defense. You know, you want to make some
Speaker 11: things look like it's an umbrella in the back end,
Speaker 11: and then some things you have what's called post close
Speaker 11: where there's just one single guy high back there. And
Speaker 11: if you can disguise things on quarterback and change rapidly
Speaker 11: and suddenly you know, you can mess up some of
Speaker 11: their progressions, some of their reads. Because some quarterbacks like him,
Speaker 11: he's so smart. As soon as you give it, tip
Speaker 11: your hat or tip your hand, he will know what
Speaker 11: to do the ball instantly. And some of those wide
Speaker 11: receivers like Cooper Cup, if you show your leverage one time,
Speaker 11: he can figure out what to do off of it.
Speaker 10: You've made it clear you're not one to really trash talk,
Speaker 10: but when it's a divisional opponent like the rams A team,
Speaker 10: you know that you're gonna end up seeing a second time.
Speaker 7: Is it get a little more chippy out there?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 11: No, It kind of depends on how the game goes.
Speaker 11: If some dirty things have been done on the field,
Speaker 11: definitely can get more chippy.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I I don't like to talk too much.
Speaker 11: I'll get out of breath and we'll fumble my words
Speaker 11: and do all kinds of things.
Speaker 7: I feel like that's what most people say.
Speaker 10: Who there's got to be someone on the defense who
Speaker 10: trash talks for everyone, right, who's the talker?
Speaker 1: Uh, there's really no talkers, honestly?
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, Now, he says, yeah in the past, when
Speaker 11: I was a rookie in last year, there was there's
Speaker 11: trash talkers, But there were really.
Speaker 9: A couple of talkers who got let go after the
Speaker 9: Niners game, a couple of dbs who were part of
Speaker 9: that down on the field. In fact, I'll say this,
Speaker 9: in that locker room at the Niners after that game,
Speaker 9: I got the sense the Cardinals both sides of the
Speaker 9: ball looking forward to the rematch in December against the Niners.
Speaker 9: That was an energetic game.
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, playing the Niners playing you know, I
Speaker 11: believe the OC for the Seahawks. You know, the Seahawks,
Speaker 11: the Niners, and the Rams are all in our division.
Speaker 11: They all stem that often somewhat stems from a West
Speaker 11: Coast Shanahan tree, so they're very similar to how they
Speaker 11: do some things. So it's like you know, you get
Speaker 11: to play them quite a bit each year. See their techniques.
Speaker 9: I hear from guys that like McVeigh and Shanahan try
Speaker 9: and steal your What do they mean by that.
Speaker 11: You know, they're gonna have a guy flash this way.
Speaker 11: You'll look and then someone's hitting you from this way
Speaker 11: and the ball will be spit out, you know. Or
Speaker 11: they'll run concepts where they try and get one on
Speaker 11: one with an advantage that they think is great for them.
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, they'll they.
Speaker 11: They'll make you think they're doing one thing and then bam,
Speaker 11: it's where they'll set things up. They'll run the same
Speaker 11: play over and over again, and then right when you
Speaker 11: think it's coming back to that, they'll pop it over
Speaker 11: the top.
Speaker 9: Saman we really enjoyed it. We really did great stuff,
Speaker 9: great stuff.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys, Thank you, thank you all for coming.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 9: And once again you go to the car page, you'll
Speaker 9: see his fit check. He was wired up in the
Speaker 9: last game. So it's multi media.
Speaker 1: Busy, busy. The last couple of days.
Speaker 6: You need to go sit on your couch.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a good food from Trophy here and just
Speaker 9: chill out the rest of the night.
Speaker 1: Yep for sure.
Speaker 9: Hey special thanks to Zamon Collins for Danny Surrek on
Speaker 9: Paul Calvic Special. Thanks as always Jim Almahundro, Cody Fincher,
Speaker 9: Lauren colebel Walt Ellis, Lawrence Ellis as well. This has
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