1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Strap on the boots. 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 2: And scrape up the knuckles ahead. 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 3: He got jacked. 4 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 4: This is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 4: and Gilbert. 6 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 5: Terry's gonna score touchdown Slam to the ground by Buddha 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 5: Baker like a torpedo. 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I'm telling you I'm ready. 19 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: And Danny Siretta. 20 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 7: Come on, Danny, he's gonna take it time. 21 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 8: Make it. 22 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 4: All right. 23 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 6: Here we go, Red see. Let's hear you out there. 24 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 6: I'll tell you know what. 25 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 9: Let's pick up where the d Backs left off last night. 26 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 6: How about that for a game playing up? 27 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 9: Maybe we'll take those brooms out to so far you 28 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 9: know what I mean. It is beat La week for 29 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 9: both the d Backs and the Cardinals. And if it 30 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 9: turns into beat down La, well that's perfectly fine as well, 31 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 9: is it not. Absolutely, it's The Big Red Rage presented 32 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 9: by Santan Ford in Gilbert. We are live from Trophy 33 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 9: in Chandler, located on Queen Creek Road between Price and Dobson. 34 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 9: Paul Calvi's here, Danny surrec everyone over there in for Ron. 35 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 6: Wolfleay tonight. 36 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 10: Thanks to Phil tonight and Danny. You know our policy, 37 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 10: No I don't, but I'm scared. 38 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 9: Under no circumstances for more than two decades do we 39 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 9: ever permit cowboys on this show. 40 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 6: But that's strictly the. 41 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 9: Dallas Cowboys, okay, and they were disposed and dispatched of 42 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 9: early this season, the Dallas Cowboys now small town Oklahoma 43 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 9: Cowboys who happened to be Cardinals' first round picks and 44 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 9: first stringers on defense. All absolutely, everyone give it up 45 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 9: for Zamon Collins tonight on The Big Red Rage. 46 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: Hell you guys, thank you, it's awesome being here. 47 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 6: And your answer to that, right cowboy? 48 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: Sometimes depending on the reference. 49 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 9: But yeah, well, if Danny you tell us what was 50 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 9: just posted on the Cardinals YouTube page today, right fitcheck 51 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 9: I'm gonna kick it over to you the eighteen to 52 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 9: thirty four demo to explain exactly what's up there right now. 53 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 10: I don't know, Paul, You've got better style than I do. 54 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 10: No Fitcheck is a new series. It was really interesting. 55 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 10: Zamon was the first player that was shown in this, 56 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 10: and it's pretty much players breaking down their outfits really 57 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 10: just on game day, explaining their style. And I got 58 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 10: to say the outfit you wore, Zavon that they were 59 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 10: doing close ups of you walking into the stadium. 60 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 7: I don't know what game that was, but it was 61 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 7: a nice like eighties flair you were talking about. You 62 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 7: had like a custom belt buckle. 63 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 10: You were going into detail about the cowboy hat and 64 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 10: the feather and the shirt you're wearing, and talking all 65 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 10: about your style which is pretty interesting, which you you 66 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 10: said is vintage and western. 67 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 7: It's a pretty good, I feel like description of yourself. 68 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: Somewhat. 69 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 11: Yeah, I would say it's very vintage. It's not a 70 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 11: new new school or like the new street stuff. I 71 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 11: kind of mix that in sometimes when I want to, 72 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 11: But yeah, it was fun. They brought that idea to me, 73 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 11: and I was lucky because I had order a few 74 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 11: pair of jeans a couple of days before. It didn't 75 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 11: even wash them, do anything, just threw them right on 76 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 11: and walked out. They were a little tight, but it 77 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 11: was fun. It was a good time. 78 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 9: I'm told it's all about the accessory savment. Okay, the accessories. 79 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 9: So I was impressed, Like the hat was from where. 80 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 11: That was from Nashville. I got that in Nashville and 81 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 11: went on a One of my best friends was getting married, 82 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 11: so we went on a bachelor's trip there. I had 83 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 11: a few hats made and I came home with a 84 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 11: box full. Like, you know, walking on a plane with 85 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 11: a hat holding one, Everyone's looking at me crazy. 86 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: It was like, as in Nashville, I had to get 87 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: hats made. But yeah, the belt buckle I bought that 88 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: we were walking through. 89 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 11: You know, if anyone's been to Las Vegas, there's all 90 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 11: these shops everywhere inside the casinos and they're you know, 91 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 11: I'm sitting there and all of a sudden, like there's 92 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 11: one shop out of all these that had like cowbo hats, 93 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 11: and they're like I better walk in there. Walking there 94 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 11: and they have these crazy boat buckles and everything. So 95 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 11: I was like, I'll get one. So I ended up 96 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 11: you didn't go one. It was fun. And then the 97 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 11: boots right uh yeah, takoves just right up the right 98 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 11: up North and North Scottsdale, Kierlyn. That you guys have 99 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 11: been there, go buy some Ta Coviz. I really enjoy 100 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 11: those good boots. 101 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 10: But I will say in the Fitchack, I liked the 102 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 10: throwback to your college Fitchack, which was a suit that 103 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 10: you you know, quickly had him. But it was all 104 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 10: based around this big coat. 105 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:32,239 Speaker 1: Yeah. 106 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 11: So my grandfather, my grandfather, I'm Frank, he had get 107 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 11: uh had he had gave me that coat a while 108 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 11: back and I was like really and he's like, yeah, 109 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 11: I had this from whenever I tried to find it 110 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 11: the company had shut down like nineteen seventy five, so 111 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 11: it was like it was something crazy. There's like no 112 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 11: records of it. So it was the cold. The coat 113 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 11: is super old. Yeah, I'll break it up maybe in 114 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 11: like Chicago. 115 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 7: Game some fur on it. 116 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy. It's it's super old school for sure. 117 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 6: Something you'd see like in a Godfather movie. 118 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's something. Yeah, it's like it super big too. 119 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 6: That's good. 120 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: All right. 121 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 9: So that's up there on the Cardinals YouTube page. Let's 122 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 9: throw it back to last Sunday and the game against Cincinnati, 123 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 9: yet again, a game the Cardinals were in until you 124 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 9: got to the fourth quarter in this last one, And 125 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 9: here's Jonathan Gannon talking about that aspect of the season. 126 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 12: I mean, we're in the game, you know, you had 127 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 12: a chance to win the game in my opinion, you know, 128 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 12: and they made a couple more plays than we did. 129 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 12: But our guys fight. We're competitive right now and every 130 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 12: game we're playing. We got to start winning some games, 131 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 12: you know, And so we talked about that, how do 132 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 12: we do that? So we laid out a blueprint for 133 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 12: him and go back to work this week. 134 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 9: You know, I'd say in a lot of regards, at 135 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 9: least based on the national media, those who aren't around 136 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 9: the team on a daily basis, the Cardinals have already 137 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 9: exceeded expectations. Right, Cardinals have looked different on film. Almost 138 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 9: every one of your opponents has said based on what 139 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 9: they expect to come into the season. So you just 140 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 9: first tell us about JG and the culture and how 141 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 9: things are different and where things are trending right now. 142 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so definitely things are trending up. I've you know, 143 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: we've been. 144 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 11: We're on a team last year where I felt when 145 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 11: you're in kind of a situation we are now with 146 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 11: the record, guys kind of look at that and I 147 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 11: kind of, you know, they kind of just you feel 148 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 11: that ore of guys and you know they tend to 149 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,559 Speaker 11: not maybe care as much, and that's kind of left. 150 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 11: It's not there anymore. It's you know, focus on this day, 151 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 11: focus on this, focus on this task, and move in, 152 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 11: you know, try and get to the games, and you 153 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 11: just got to finish whenever it comes time. We've been 154 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 11: in all these close games, I feel like, you know, 155 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 11: it's been a lot better. You know, when I watched 156 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 11: the film on Monday after the game, it seems a 157 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 11: little bit even though we're losing, it's it's it's rough 158 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 11: right now. Obviously we want to win, but it's not 159 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 11: the as I would say, belly up as sometimes. You know, 160 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 11: those games felt like last year. So that the culture 161 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 11: has changed tremendously. 162 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 10: It's a results driven league, but we've heard from Gannon 163 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 10: that it's all about the process and that's going to 164 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 10: lead to the results. And defensive cordiator nik Rolis actually 165 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 10: shared the metaphor he shared with the team this week 166 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 10: about a flower and that when the flower is growing, 167 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 10: you don't just see the flower itself, right, you see 168 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 10: the roots, the foundation, even though it's not always pretty, 169 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 10: the foundation is being set. 170 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 7: How would you describe the foundation that is being set. 171 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, like I said, the culture is completely different. 172 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 11: The foundation of how guys work, how guys are here 173 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 11: in the off season, how guys operate. You know, you 174 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 11: want good, good, hardworking people just like any other business 175 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 11: and any other job. You want them in your locker room. 176 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 11: You want them contributing to the team in a positive manner, 177 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 11: which I think we've built. We've built that team chemistry. 178 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 11: You know, guys aren't getting onto other guys when things 179 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 11: are going wrong. Guys are building each other up, trying to, 180 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 11: you know, make each other better. Every day in practice, 181 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 11: offense versus defense, special teams, one on ones. Guys are 182 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 11: doing really well when it's in that aspect of building 183 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 11: that culture, building that foundation of what you need to 184 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 11: have a great organization and think for a great future. 185 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 9: I smiled when you brought the flower analogy because Nick 186 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 9: Sirianni and Philly. When he brought that up at the 187 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 9: press conference, Philly a tough down. He took a whole 188 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 9: lot of heat when he made that flower analogy. 189 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 6: What are you talking about flowers in football? 190 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 12: Right? 191 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: Okay? 192 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 9: You know, and Joe at the bar was all I rate. Well, 193 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 9: it turns out he was right. They went from a 194 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 9: four win team to two years later they won the 195 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 9: NFC and win the Super Bowl. 196 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 197 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 9: And from what I can tell, you tell me true 198 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 9: or false? MANI I support Jonathan in and reset this 199 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 9: roster in the off season. 200 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 6: And really the top criterion was we want players who are. 201 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 11: Serious about football. Yeah, would you agree with that? I 202 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 11: would definitely agree. You know, guys, they want guys to 203 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 11: come in the building and be ready to work. And 204 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 11: you know, this isn't it's it's more than a sport. Obviously, 205 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 11: when you're playing at this level, it's a you know, 206 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 11: it's a lifestyle that you have to live. You have 207 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 11: to breathe it, you have to love this game. You know, 208 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 11: you operate Like I was telling her earlier, it's like 209 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 11: this might have been the earliest I've gotten out this week. 210 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 11: And you know, you get up at seven, you work 211 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 11: till seven, You're putting in all this time and it's 212 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 11: not you know, you want fans to know, everyone to know, 213 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 11: like you you do all this stuff you don't you. 214 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: Don't want to lose. 215 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 11: You don't want you know, to put those you know, 216 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 11: like in the past, like some things have been out 217 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 11: there about the Cardinals. 218 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 1: You don't want that by no means you. 219 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 11: Know, everyone spends her harder and money to come out 220 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 11: while support us, you know, so we want to play 221 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 11: the best, be the best whenever you guys are coming 222 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 11: out twenty four to seven. 223 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 7: And it's not just big name players. 224 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 10: I feel like when you're looking at the defense right 225 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 10: it's it's players who are stepping up, whether that's from 226 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 10: injuries or whatever it might be. And I think a 227 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 10: great example from Sunday would be safety Cavan Wallace, who 228 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 10: was acquired just before the regular season started. 229 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 7: He had that interception, he had the big tackle for 230 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 7: a one on the goal line stand. 231 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 10: I mean, how have you seen those type of players 232 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 10: who are stepping in and stepping up? 233 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, those players are high level players. No 234 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 11: matter where you go, if you're on a football field 235 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 11: in the NFL, that you're a high level player. I 236 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 11: truly believe that. Because NFL is very hard across the board. 237 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 11: It is very hard. That's why most guys, you know, 238 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 11: it's you're kind of in and out of the league. 239 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 11: Sometimes it's a very hard, very hard league. It's very tough. 240 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 11: But those guys that have come in, they've been around 241 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 11: just for a little bit. They've you know, bought into 242 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 11: the system that we're trying to build, what we're trying 243 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 11: to do as a culture. And there it's like, you know, 244 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 11: it's like they've been with us for months and some 245 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 11: of them really haven't. Well I mean now they have, 246 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 11: but at the time, yeah, and uh, you know some 247 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 11: of the guys that were younger, the rookies. You know, 248 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 11: we had some guys up front get injured, and that's 249 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 11: gonna happen every year. You just need guys that buy in, 250 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 11: step up, and you know they're gonna make mistakes. Everyone 251 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 11: makes mistakes, and we kind of just let them go 252 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 11: and just hey, focus on the next thing. 253 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: You know, how do we respond? How do we do that? 254 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 10: I will say too real quick that off that interception, 255 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 10: you were miked up for the wire because the Cardinals 256 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 10: mike up a player every game and put a whole 257 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 10: piece together. So if you don't renew that, you can 258 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 10: go to our YouTube channel and. 259 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 7: Check those out. 260 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 10: So Zavon was miked up this past week, and I 261 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 10: loved After Kevon Wallace had that interception, everyone on the 262 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 10: defense is running to the end zone to celebrate, and 263 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 10: you're you have your mic on your run, You're looking 264 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 10: like I'm tired. 265 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 7: You get to the bench, you look at Dutch like 266 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 7: I'm tired. 267 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 11: It's definitely it's definitely better whenever you catch it. When 268 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 11: we get your interception closer to you know, our uh 269 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 11: their end zone down there, that way, we can just 270 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 11: walk right there to the end zone. Uh you know, 271 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 11: I ran all the way down there. I looked at 272 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 11: k Why, which is Kayzer Why. He's the number seven, 273 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 11: our middle linebacker, and he's like, man, dog, I'm tired. 274 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 11: I said, me too, I gotta go. I took a picture. 275 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 11: I left, moved straight to the right Dennis. I sit 276 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 11: down beside Dennis, and then this was like, man, that 277 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 11: looked really exhausting. I said, yeah, it was as I 278 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 11: just played seven plays, ten plays and you know, come 279 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 11: off to the side and need to breathe. 280 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 6: So I've noticed a trend. Dennis Gardek isn't running all 281 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 6: the way down there to strike a post. He refuses 282 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 6: to do it. 283 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 11: He won't do it that. That guy has many talents. 284 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 11: He's on special teams, he's on defense. I mean, he 285 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 11: can do so much. But that's he has his ways 286 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 11: and those are his ways. He will not change from that. 287 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 9: Because in the Dallas game, Kaiser White had the interception 288 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 9: to seal it right, and he wasn't on the field, 289 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 9: and instead. 290 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 6: Of running all the way down there to join. 291 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 9: The celebration, instead he gave props to Cam Thomas because 292 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 9: Cam Thomas had the stop on first and second down. Yeah, 293 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 9: that led to the third down interception, and I'm like, wow, 294 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 9: that was really thoughtful. He went over and congratulate a 295 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 9: Cam and then I talked to him later after the game. 296 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 9: He said, well, it was mainly I just want to 297 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 9: run down there, so you know, I had to congratulate someone, 298 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 9: so I went up to camp because he was sitting 299 00:11:58,720 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 9: next to me on the bench. 300 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 11: Sometimes, though, you look at the pictures the next day 301 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 11: and you see all the guys in the picture and 302 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 11: you're like, dang, I should have ran down there, So 303 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 11: you gotta bite the bullet. 304 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes you go run down there for sure. 305 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 9: Well, look, we're gonna talk about your sack. We'll talk 306 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 9: more about the transition from middle linebacker. 307 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 6: Think about it. 308 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 9: He had one hundred tackle season last year wearing the 309 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 9: green dot, meaning he was calling the defense. He had 310 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 9: a position switch and so a lot of change for 311 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 9: Zamon Collins in year three of his career. 312 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 6: We'll talk about all that. 313 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 9: We'll hear from Dennis Gardeck himself what he had to 314 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 9: say about you as a former school valedictorian. 315 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: By the way, we'll get into that. 316 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 9: And a reminder you're going to get single game tickets 317 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 9: on sale Azycardinals dot com slash by tickets to secure 318 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 9: your seats today. It is the Big Red Rage Zavan 319 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 9: Collins all presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. 320 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 6: Firing. 321 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 5: Your sight is tipped and picked off by Zavan Collins 322 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 5: had the forty yard line of tackled at the thirty seven. 323 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 2: That is a huge play for the Cardinals. 324 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 6: Bumbled the ball. 325 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 5: The Cardinals have it in their hands and it's their ball. 326 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 5: Savan Collins comes up with it. That the two takeaways 327 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 5: for Zavon Collins here in the first half, short set 328 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 5: in trouble steps up and takes a sack at the 329 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 5: forty yard line. Saving Collins with the takedown. By the way, 330 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 5: did you see the lasso sack? Did just see the 331 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 5: celebration from David Collins. Prescott sacked back in the twenty 332 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 5: eight yard line by Savan Collins. 333 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 6: Savan Collins did not take the bait. 334 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 5: Burls got it back to throw facing pressure. He's sacked 335 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 5: back at the thirty five yard line, Savan Collins with 336 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 5: the takedown. 337 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 6: There was the lasso again. 338 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,119 Speaker 9: How about it on the sack and you're the montage 339 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 9: there Weeks one through five, Zavon Collins our special guest 340 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 9: tonight on the Big Red Rage, presented by sand Tan 341 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 9: Forard in Gilbert. We are live from Trophy and Chandler 342 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 9: located on Queen Creek Road between Price and Dobson. So 343 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 9: you had that Washington debut week one you had to 344 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 9: pick and the Fumbel recovery and ever since two and 345 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 9: a half sacks, three quarterback hits, a dozen tackles and 346 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 9: Danny Serek, you know he's been doing it from a 347 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 9: different position than he did last year. So Zabell, let's 348 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 9: just start there. I mean, this transition is it an 349 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 9: ongoing process? Do you feel right at home right now? 350 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 9: Where you at comfort level. 351 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 11: Wise, Yeah, I think, you know, the job of being 352 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 11: an athlete at the high level you have to adapt 353 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 11: and you know, be ready for change. You know, the 354 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 11: situation that we were in as a team, I was 355 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 11: kind of like, you know, I'll do whatever the team 356 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 11: needs me to do at the time. Obviously, you know, 357 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 11: we have a great coach, Rob He's unreal the way 358 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 11: he lets us operate within a you know, a gray area. 359 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 11: It's not so black and whity. It's not his way 360 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 11: or the highway. He lets us do what we want 361 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 11: to do as long as we stay in the confinements 362 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 11: of you know, kind of his rules. 363 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: So that's nice. It's been going well. 364 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 11: The transition has been well, it's ongoing, just like any 365 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 11: other position at any other let you know, if you've 366 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 11: been playing it forever or you just. 367 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: Kind of change to it. 368 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 11: It's not something that I was, you know, not new to, 369 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 11: but it's something that I'm doing a lot more of now, 370 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 11: predominantly doing that being off the edge, being off the ball. 371 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 11: There's obviously there's chances in the future to see me 372 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 11: do that, depending on packages and stuff. But yeah, it's 373 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 11: there's you know, it's always open to everything. 374 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 10: When We were talking the throughout the off season when 375 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 10: the season was getting started about this position change to 376 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 10: your teammates in that room, your coaches. The first thing 377 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 10: everybody said when asked what does Zave and Collins have 378 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 10: that's going to make them successful in this position switch 379 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 10: was your intelligence. It was always very quickly followed by 380 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 10: your size and how big and strong you are, But 381 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 10: your IQ is what everybody started with. How how seamless 382 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 10: has that been from the mental side, not just moving 383 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 10: inside to outside. But now you're not calling the defense. 384 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 10: You feel like you're being able to play a little 385 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 10: more freely. You're not having to you know, think and much. 386 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 10: You can just kind of react. 387 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you kind of just hear their job and 388 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: go do it. 389 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 11: Translating it can be in hassle sometimes because you know 390 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 11: there's different formations, different sets. You're having to tell ten 391 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 11: other grown men. You know, some guys have been in 392 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 11: the league ten years what to do, and sometimes you 393 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 11: got to be able to tell them, you know, hey, 394 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 11: you're screwing up right here. You got to get this right. 395 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 11: You have to know all the checks, all the you know, 396 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 11: anties at third and two, third and one. They're doing 397 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 11: hurry up, what are they an eleven, twelve? All this 398 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 11: stuff you got to you gotta know, it's a it's 399 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 11: a long list, guys. I could go on forever, but yeah, 400 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 11: it's it's nice kind of being able to play a 401 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 11: little bit more free to hear the call go from there, 402 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 11: no more rules and that's it. 403 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 9: Well, here's Dennis Gardak talking about that. Okay, all right, 404 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 9: your partner in crime. And this was this is over 405 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 9: the summer, this is the off season. Here's Gardack on 406 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 9: Zavian Collins. 407 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 13: He's got to be one of the smartest outside beckers 408 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 13: there's ever been, just coming from inside. He knows how 409 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 13: everything's tied together so well, so he's incredibly smart. And 410 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 13: then he's actually huge. Yeah, if you guys haven't noticed, 411 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 13: I saw a picture of me next to him, and 412 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 13: I look like his kid brother. 413 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 9: So he You know, you look at your outside linebacker 414 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 9: room and nine different guys have sacks on this team 415 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 9: right now. And there's guys everyone's like a little bit different. 416 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 9: Gardak is nothing like you in terms of body type. 417 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 6: Victor d. 418 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 9: Mucage right, just a raging bowl. And then you got 419 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 9: bi Jo jolr my A Sanders coming back. I know 420 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 9: I'm missing guys right now, but everybody seems to be 421 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 9: a little different. Do you think that works to your 422 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 9: advantage because these you guys get into a location. I mean, 423 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 9: these tackles can't really lock into one sword of rush. 424 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 11: Yeah, that's kind of the upper hand that you have 425 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 11: on the offense as a defensive ends. Outside linebackers, I 426 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 11: kind of you know, it's kind of like the the 427 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 11: bullpin of baseball. You know, you get in there, they 428 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,719 Speaker 11: throw different pictures. Everything's ever oh new pictures up. So 429 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 11: whenever you're throwing different guys at a tackle, his set 430 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 11: will change. Sometimes. You know, if it's Dennis, they're going 431 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 11: to be scared of his speed. You know, has been 432 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 11: Maja the same thing speed Ben. You know, you talk 433 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 11: about Victor and how he can, you know, really put 434 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,719 Speaker 11: pressure by physicality, and you know some guys, there's some 435 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 11: guys out there that can kind of do it all. 436 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 11: But uh yeah, that's that's pretty crazy. I can't believe 437 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,239 Speaker 11: Dennis said that about me. That's a nice thing he's 438 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 11: ever said. 439 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 9: He also said, by the way, that it's much easier 440 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 9: to play outside linebacker than what you were doing last year. 441 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 9: He's like, look, outside linebacker, let's boil it down. Either 442 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 9: the place coming at you or it's going away from you. 443 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: Yep, you right, that's about it. 444 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 7: The two of you are pretty close. 445 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 10: And for the last couple of years Dennis has we've 446 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,959 Speaker 10: really just seen sparks. He was more of that special 447 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 10: teams player. He has been phenomenal this season. He's been starting, 448 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 10: he's been very active, a big part of this defense. 449 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 10: Knowing how hard he works and how close the two 450 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 10: of you are, what has that been like for you 451 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 10: to see this season he's had so far. 452 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 11: Dennis is someone who, like I was saying, the culture, 453 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 11: he's one of those guys that he was already had 454 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 11: that culture within him, so you know, he didn't have 455 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 11: to change at all. It wasn't nothing anything new for 456 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 11: him to come in work every day, take care of 457 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 11: his body, eat right, study all the film, know what 458 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 11: to do all the ins and out, to be adaptable, 459 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 11: be ready to change. That's something that was already built 460 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 11: with inside of him. So he does that every day 461 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 11: on a daily basis. So that makes him an incredible player. 462 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 11: And then obviously you know him getting his chance to 463 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 11: go out there and shine and you know he's extended 464 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 11: from special teams now to defense and has done all 465 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 11: this stuff. I go to him ask him like what 466 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 11: is this and he's like, well, I just you know, 467 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 11: been down turn. I'm like, okay, I can do that. 468 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 11: But he's very smart. He helps me translate sometimes the 469 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 11: things that you're feeling as a paser special because it's 470 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 11: so much about Phil into the things that I want 471 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 11: to do. So we kind of worked with tandem with 472 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 11: each other and then we get to work a lot 473 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 11: with drops. 474 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: You know, he's very good. 475 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 11: He played a little bit of off ball early on 476 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 11: in his career like I did, and then you know, 477 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 11: so we're trying to help guys that are younger and 478 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 11: understand that have been probably more predominantly just rushing the 479 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 11: edge and not dropping that much sometimes trying to help 480 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 11: them with understanding coverages, understanding route concepts, stuff like that. 481 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: So he's very smart. 482 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 6: You mentioned the switch off ball to Now you're on 483 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage. Here's your position. 484 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 9: Coach Outside linebackers coach Rob Rodriguez on Zavian Collins. 485 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 14: That Saban you see today will be a different Zavan 486 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 14: In December. We ask something very difficult of him when 487 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 14: we asked him to move here. 488 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: This is not easy. 489 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 14: Not everybody can do it, and so the work that 490 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 14: he's had to put in just to get to this 491 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 14: point has been extraordinary. He just shows up every day 492 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 14: and keeps fighting. I know how far he can go, 493 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 14: and I know how far he will go. I don't 494 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 14: know how long it's going to take, and I just 495 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 14: love that every day he doesn't take steps back. He 496 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 14: keeps pushing and pushing. Even when he runs into some roadblocks, 497 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 14: he just keeps coming back. 498 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 9: You know what's interesting in Minnesota during training camp, I 499 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 9: talked to some of the personnel guys, some of the coaches. 500 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 9: They said, because they were with different teams at the 501 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 9: time when you were coming out in the draft three 502 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 9: years ago, they had you earmarked as an outside linebacker. 503 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 11: Yeah, we played a very different off defense in college. 504 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 11: We were at three three five and it was very weird. 505 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 11: But sometimes I'd come off the edge, sometimes I'd blitz 506 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,479 Speaker 11: in the get in between the tackles. It was very 507 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 11: very weird, unorthodox for sure, So guys really didn't know 508 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 11: what to do with me. And it's kind of been 509 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 11: like that since I was going into college. So it's 510 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 11: nice now to kind of finally just have a home 511 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:36,239 Speaker 11: and stick with it. 512 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 9: Here's a rando question I saw in your bio. I 513 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 9: didn't realize this that you won the Bronco Nigersky Trophy 514 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 9: when you were at Tulsa. I mean, that is big time. 515 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 9: I was thinking, like, the Bronco Nigersky Trophy, that's gotta 516 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 9: be pretty dang cool. I mean, I could google it 517 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 9: up right now, But tell me, what does that thing 518 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 9: look like? It's it's well and where do you have it? 519 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 9: Where's it residing right now? 520 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 11: The Nagurski Trophy was actually the plaque okay, the bed 521 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 11: and airquin was. 522 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: It was a big trophy. Yeah, so it was a 523 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: big one. 524 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 6: So it sort of belies the name is what you're saying. 525 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah it was. But those are some awesome trophies. 526 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 11: I actually don't have those. My mom has those. If 527 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 11: you walk into my mom's house, it looks like, I 528 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 11: don't know, it's it's like a memoir of me in 529 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 11: college and all this stuff. So it's like, Mom, you 530 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 11: gotta you know, let's put something else up. 531 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 6: Do you still get a text from your mom on 532 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 6: game day? 533 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: Every day, every game, every game? Yep, every game. 534 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 6: Can you share as a class of iron info? What 535 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 6: does she say? 536 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, you guys, do I have time? 537 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 6: Sure? Right, So it's good Danny. 538 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 9: How about that mom still texts big time tough guy 539 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 9: outside linebacker Right. NFL budding stars Zaman Collin still gets 540 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 9: a text from his mom before kickoff every game. 541 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 11: She said, good morning, sunshine, be great today. I think 542 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 11: it's a three sec day. I said, you want a lot? 543 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: Mom? Keep got close to do you? I love you 544 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: so much? Yeah? 545 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 11: So she texts, she text me stuff like that. I 546 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 11: was I was raised by single mother. She's me and 547 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 11: her very close. But yeah, she text me all the time, 548 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 11: and she yeah, but she always She's someone that's always, 549 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 11: you know, been in my corner. But she's also expected 550 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 11: a lot. Always she's you know, she requires the most, 551 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 11: which I think has set me up for success. 552 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: In life for sure. 553 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 10: When it goes back to Rob Rodriguez, your coach, we've 554 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 10: seen all off season with this change, you were getting 555 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 10: a lot of one on one work with him off 556 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 10: on the side during practice. How has he helped really 557 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 10: speed up this process for you. 558 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 7: To make this switch. Yes, is first his first time 559 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 7: too working in the NFL. 560 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 11: Well Yeah, he as a true positional coach. He's always, 561 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 11: you know, been an assistant, and he's worked around some 562 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 11: great guys. He's worked around JG and Nick obviously for 563 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 11: a few years back in the past when they were 564 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 11: all at Minnesota. But you know, it's most of the time, 565 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 11: whenever you have a position switch and they get guys 566 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 11: like they try and just like break them down to 567 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 11: complete bare bones and try and do all this stuff 568 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 11: with them, which I mean kind of hurts players sometimes 569 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 11: at their core because they've been doing that for so long. 570 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 11: He kind of just took what I was telling him, 571 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 11: what I was giving him and said and just made 572 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 11: minor tweaks here and there. And we continue to do that, 573 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 11: make minor tweaks. Stand the fill your body, understand the 574 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 11: field of the tackles, of the guards, of what they're 575 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 11: giving you, how to use your hands, how to use 576 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 11: your body. So you know, it's just been minor adjustments 577 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 11: and that's been awesome. 578 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 9: You guys have been at the bottom of the league 579 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 9: in blitz rate this year. I mean did you expect that, right? 580 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 9: I mean last year, man, you guys blitz you were 581 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 9: like top three. 582 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, we putched a lot last year. 583 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 11: It's a lot of a lot of pressure calls this 584 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 11: year kind of just you know, playing defense and that 585 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 11: we've been playing well, I believe, So. 586 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 9: It's kind of refreshing actually in a lot of ways. 587 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 9: Episode sixty five of The Day Pash Podcast faturing Cardinals 588 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 9: quarterback Josh Dobbs. This is a really good listen to 589 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 9: pash pod and you can find it via Twitter at 590 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 9: pash pot. In fact, when we come back, somebody asked 591 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 9: Josh Dobbs if he believes in UFOs and aliens. 592 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: I don't know. 593 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 9: Somebody got really bored during the press conference and asked 594 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 9: him that question at the end, and so we'll hear 595 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 9: the answer. We'll also hear what Zaman had to say 596 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 9: with JJ Watt last year when it came to hockey. 597 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 9: Oh that's can't miss. That'll be interest. We're live from 598 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 9: Trophy and Chandler. Look at a Queen Creek Road between 599 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 9: Price and Dobson. It's the Big Red Rage with Zaman 600 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 9: Collins presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. 601 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 5: And there's an injured Cardinal and boy that Cardinals cannot 602 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 5: afford to have anybody else go down in the defense, 603 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 5: but got a man down at the thirty eight yard 604 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 5: line and at Zavon Collins. 605 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 3: Oh boy, he looks to be in a lot of 606 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 3: pain right now. 607 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 5: He's motioning to the team doc as if he got 608 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 5: poked in the eye and kind of looking at his 609 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 5: right eye. 610 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 6: There's something going on there. 611 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: You have to wear a patch for a while. Yeah, 612 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: I wore a patch for the first two days. 613 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 11: I'm telling you, this right eye was all over the 614 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 11: place like I was seeing double of everything. 615 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: Did you talk like a pirate? No? I didn't. 616 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 11: I had a lot of people text me though, and 617 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 11: just send me like emojis of yeah, pirates or whatever 618 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 11: it was. 619 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: It's funny, you're a slimy dog, baby me. 620 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 6: Articles are kidding me. 621 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 9: Hoists see what happens, and then past laughs and he just. 622 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 6: Encourages it more. 623 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 9: Whenever Wolf talks like a pirate, he doesn't need any 624 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 9: I mean, any sort of excuse. Wolf's gonna talk like 625 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 9: a pirate. And that's all we needed. Was Jimal Mahundral 626 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 9: asking Zaven Collins in the locker room about the eyepatch 627 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 9: he had to wear for a while after the Dallas injury. 628 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 9: And you could hear all of us holding our breath 629 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 9: on air because true or false, you were in a 630 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 9: lot of pain, correct, Yeah, I was. 631 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 11: It was an injury that I've never really had happen before. 632 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 11: I've kind of been poked in the eye, comes with 633 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 11: you know football. I've had hands go through the face, 634 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 11: mask hits you give you a black eye, but this 635 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 11: was like, it was pretty vicious. I don't think it 636 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 11: was on purpose. But he got Dennis too, not as bad, 637 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 11: but yeah, it injured the you know, the upper right 638 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 11: part of my right eye, caused some nerve damage. It 639 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 11: took like chunks of my eyeball out. 640 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: It was crazy. 641 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 11: So it was I have some pretty brutal pictures on 642 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 11: my eye right after that I would not share. 643 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 10: But you don't think about that, like with injuries with 644 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 10: football players. You think of like broken bones, right or 645 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 10: just look you shoulder. You don't think about hearing someone 646 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 10: like Xavi and say, yeah, I looked in the mirror 647 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 10: and it did not look good because I was looking 648 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 10: straight ahead with my left time I right, I was 649 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 10: looking right up. 650 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 11: Now, come on, now, you're exaggerating that, right, No, it 651 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 11: was so like you know, you look at yourself in 652 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 11: the mirror, you know, brush your teeth and so like 653 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 11: when you look in the back of your eyes, each 654 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 11: wanted left one was good, the right one was I 655 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 11: mean like straight up in the area. 656 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: Was pointing it up. So at that point I'd freaked out. 657 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 11: In the blue tint, you can kind of tell when 658 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 11: something's wrong whenever, you know, if you have a cut 659 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 11: on your face, everyone's like, no, you're fine, you're not bleeding, 660 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 11: and then you see, like you touch it and you're like, oh, 661 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 11: there's blood. You know, everyone kind of freaks out when 662 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 11: you're a kid. See, this is the same thing, except 663 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 11: there's no I know, there's no blood or anything like that. 664 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 11: And I'm pretty usually calm with injuries. It was a 665 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 11: lot of pain. But when I was walking into the 666 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 11: locker room, I was like, man, I better stop in 667 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 11: the mirror and to see what's wrong. And yeah, when 668 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 11: I looked, it freaked me out pretty good. 669 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 6: Wow. 670 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 9: Savan Collins is our guest on The Big Red Rage, 671 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 9: presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert were live from Trophy 672 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 9: and Chandler, located on queen Quek Road between Price and 673 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 9: Dobson And if JJ Watt was around, I'm guessing he'd 674 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 9: probably give you a hard time about that he retired. 675 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 9: He's living the good life, his best life right about now. 676 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 9: With hockey season now officially underway and the Kytie's open 677 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 9: their season in New Jersey against the Devils tomorrow, let's 678 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 9: hear from hard knocks last year. This was a good 679 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 9: little exchange here. I guess jj WA was trying to 680 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 9: coach up a little bit. 681 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: On hockey Rufen rules. How many people are on the rings? 682 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: Are on the ice at one time? Five players? One 683 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: go in and then if you get like a foul, 684 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: you have to like set in the box, right, So 685 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: if I put you in. Giant asked, what are those 686 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: shoes called? 687 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 15: They wear skates? Ice skates. I couldn't think of it anyways. Okay, no, 688 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 15: I'm not. I just skipped my mind. Where we're gonna 689 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 15: go skating here in Arizona? 690 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: Skating? No, what if we fell through, We're not going 691 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: on them. Going a pond. 692 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 11: Is what you do, right, you would call a flat 693 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 11: on your face with that center of private this. 694 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: Is what you do. Yeah, you got you do like 695 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: a speed skater. Make Bonnie Blair. 696 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 6: That's what happened. 697 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 9: Standing when one guy's from Wisconsin and the other guys 698 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 9: from smalltown Oklahoma. 699 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 6: That that's rights. Not a lot of hockey. Yeah, how 700 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 6: many Oklahoma? 701 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 702 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 11: That that brought me back to childhood memory to my mom. Actually, 703 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 11: so you know when it'd get really cold your kid, 704 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 11: you know, it snows, you go outside, you're out of school, 705 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 11: you're doing all that stuff, right, it was always hate 706 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 11: stay off the ice, you fall through, it's dangerous. Yeah, 707 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 11: you know you still walk out there on the ice. 708 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 11: So that was what I was thinking. You know, you 709 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 11: right on the ice, skating on the ice. 710 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 7: Oh so did you go skating with JJ. 711 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: No, we never made it out. 712 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 11: I wanted to, but unfortunately that was right during it 713 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 11: was right as the season, in his offseason. I ended 714 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 11: up going back to Oklahoma, so I never got to 715 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 11: make it out with him. I'm sure we will one day, though, 716 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 11: I'm sure we will. 717 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 6: It's good. It might be a violation of your contract, 718 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 6: so it's. 719 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: Probably a good big contract. 720 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 6: You dend on that one. That's good. 721 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 9: Uh. So here's one Josh Dobbs earlier this week, and 722 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 9: Danny didn't believe me. Danny didn't believe me that I 723 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 9: was going to ask him the question. And at the 724 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 9: end of the press conference, you know there was a 725 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 9: moment there and Josh Dobbs, for those who don't know, 726 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 9: aerospace engineer does internships at NASA in the off season, 727 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 9: speaking off seasons, and you know, Congress had these hearings 728 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 9: over the summer about UFOs and aliens. I think it's topical, 729 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 9: and so we asked him, Josh Dobbs, do you believe. 730 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 8: I do not believe in UFOs and aliens. It was 731 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 8: funny though, So when I got traded this crazy story, 732 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 8: I was sitting in my apartment and so me and 733 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 8: my friend Trey Smith, who's a really good offensive guard 734 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 8: for the Kansas City Chiefs, when we start a little podcast, 735 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 8: so he's a believer in UFOs and aliens, I'm not. 736 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 8: So we're having a very tense debate for one of 737 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 8: our podcast episodes, even support where we had Congressman Tim Burchett, 738 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 8: because he's from Tennessee. He's giving us like the inside scoop, 739 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 8: like the questions he's asking, and literally an hour into 740 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 8: this podcast, that's why I got a call from Andrew Barry. 741 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 8: I was gonna trade her. So I was like, hey, y'all, 742 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 8: we're gonna have to finish up this conversation a. 743 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 9: Little bit later, how about that they're having the intense debate, 744 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 9: they bring in a congressman and all of a sudden, 745 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 9: his phone rings. I gotta take this. It's the GM 746 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 9: of the Browns. You've been traded to the Cardinals. Yeah 747 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 9: that's quite a story. 748 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 11: That's a change of direction in stories for sure. Yeah, 749 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 11: that'll make that conversation real, serious, real. 750 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 9: So you got an aerospace engineer, You got a bunch 751 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 9: of guys from Stanford like Zach Ertz right and Michael Wilson. 752 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 9: You got Rondell Moore went to Purdue and got his 753 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 9: degree in two and a half years. Yet you were 754 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 9: a four point zero guy in high school, the valedictorian. 755 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 9: So you know, I don't know what's the power ranking 756 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 9: of brain power right now in the locker. 757 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:32,479 Speaker 1: Room, I don't know. 758 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 11: I think I'm above Zach and Rondell for sure. I'm 759 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 11: not sure about Michael, and definitely not Josh. I went 760 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 11: to Tulsa. Tulsa was a small private school, you know, 761 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 11: very prestigious school in the Midwest. Yeah, it was fun 762 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,479 Speaker 11: going there, very hard, It wasn't It was no easy 763 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 11: ride for sure. But yeah, I think Josh is probably 764 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 11: the smartest on the team by far. 765 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, i'd say something, yeah, that'd be my guess. 766 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, how did you end up at Tulsa? Like, well, 767 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 7: how did you? I guess we should take it back 768 00:30:59,360 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 7: even further. 769 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 10: In a small town in Oklahoma where you grew up, 770 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 10: how did you get into football? 771 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 7: Because you were a quarterback in a safety right. 772 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 11: Yeah, So going back to Oklahoma, small town, it's very 773 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 11: rich in football history where I was from. We had 774 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 11: actually a few guys from a long time ago play 775 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 11: in the league. Was a very long time ago. But 776 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 11: you know, every once in a while have some guys 777 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 11: go to smaller schools. One or two guys go to 778 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 11: ou OSU. But that had been since the eighties. Being 779 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 11: from a small town where you kind of get looked 780 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 11: over and recruiting because you really just don't play anyone 781 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 11: had all the other tangibles there was smart, knew what 782 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,719 Speaker 11: to do, had the right size to play right speed, 783 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 11: just had no film when it was coming to I 784 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 11: was playing guys that you know, they're just. 785 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 9: I mean the high school pictures, it looks like you're 786 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 9: playing against the kicker. 787 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like. 788 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 6: Twenty one kickers out there. That's what it looks like. 789 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 11: We were beating the breaks off of them for sure, 790 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 11: and but yeah, so no one really take me in. 791 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 11: You know, Tulsa, That's where Bill Young was at the time. 792 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 11: He's a big coach. In college, he played, he was 793 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 11: in the league for a little bit a long time ago. 794 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 11: He offered me, and that was my only offer. I 795 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 11: signed as an athlete and not know when I was 796 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 11: gonna play. We started off ball linebacker and kind of 797 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 11: just went from there and this is kind of where 798 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 11: I've end up now. 799 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: It's amazing. 800 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 9: He ran for four thousand yards and like fifty touchdowns 801 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 9: in high school. If I was a parent, I'd come 802 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 9: down and take my kid off the field. I mean, 803 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 9: you're running six foot four now two hundred and seventy pounds. 804 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 6: How has that been? I mean, what was your weight 805 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 6: when you first entered Tulsa. 806 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 11: So first entering Tulsa, I was like six three growing still, 807 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 11: and then I was two hundred and twenty pounds and 808 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 11: so now I'm yeah, and then it's changed. Obviously I 809 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 11: got kind of too heavy in college. They wanted to 810 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 11: bring it down, so we brought it down to like 811 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 11: two sixty. And then in the league that he didn't 812 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 11: like that, so I was like, Okay, we'll get to 813 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 11: two fifty five. And then now since new change of 814 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 11: organization change the position, I'm back to two seventy. So 815 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 11: it's like being able to fluctuate with your body and 816 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 11: stuff like that. You got to be in tune with 817 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 11: your body. You got to be in tune with your health. 818 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 11: So it's that's been fun. It's been easy for me. 819 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 11: It's not something that I've ever worried about. 820 00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 9: So like, when you did that in the off season 821 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 9: to two seventy, did you like just walk in and 822 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 9: order the left side of the menu? 823 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 11: Yeah, I just walked like I kind of Yeah, I 824 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 11: just eat more, that's about it. 825 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna have ice time. I have ice cream 826 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: at now. 827 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good deal. 828 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 10: I was gonna say, it's is there something you can't 829 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 10: eat now that you miss that you go in on 830 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 10: the off. 831 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 11: Season in the off season that yeah, I kind of 832 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 11: just eat whatever. 833 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: You know, there's not not too many. 834 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 11: So I grew up in a town there or town 835 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 11: populations two thousand people and that's large. I graduated with 836 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 11: forty people in my high school. That was in my class. 837 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 11: The entire you know, freshman through senior just two hundred 838 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 11: people maybe maybe probably like one hundred and fifty, but 839 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 11: so we did so growing up there, there's not much 840 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 11: to eat. It was my grandmother. I grew up every 841 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 11: night religiously going to my grandmother's house of eating dinner 842 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 11: or there. 843 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 7: So in a small town, would you do to stay busy? 844 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: Uh? Not much? I mean hunt fish? That was about it. Yeah, soside. 845 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 9: So if you could have like a dream hunting trip 846 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 9: in the off season, where would you go? What would 847 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 9: you hunt? 848 00:33:59,000 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 6: I don't know. 849 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 11: I think here in Arizona. The big Horn rams are 850 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 11: pretty cool here. Very hard to very hard to be 851 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 11: able to do that. You got to go into a draw. 852 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 11: It's a big, long, complicated process. It's funny. 853 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 9: You know a guy it took more than forty years, 854 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 9: an older jentle and he finally got one. 855 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 11: I'm like, man, you know what, I'll just I don't 856 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 11: know what I'll have to do. You just go to 857 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 11: Texas and hunt about anything you want. Now, So everything's 858 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 11: great down there. 859 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 9: What's amazing, Danny is you look at his file and 860 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 9: once again true or false, your first sport was gymnastics. 861 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 11: Yeah, when I was young that was. I told my mom. 862 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 11: I don't know why I told her that, and she 863 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 11: was like, all right, let's do it. And we did 864 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,439 Speaker 11: it and then I got way too big. 865 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 10: You know, there is a rookie that I've talked to 866 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,959 Speaker 10: who also grew up doing gymnastics. 867 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 7: I want to see if you can guess. I'll give you. Hey, 868 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 7: it was a rookie. Can you guess all that? 869 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 10: I think it might surprise people to know this was 870 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 10: one of his first sports? 871 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 16: Yes? 872 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 6: Really? 873 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 7: Wow? Did you know that? That was just a good guess. 874 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 11: It's good I think for kids to be in obviously 875 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,919 Speaker 11: not context like I mean, yeah, contact. 876 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: Sports, but for sports for kids to fall over. 877 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 11: And then be able to get back up, you know 878 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 11: what I mean? Like that teaches. I don't know what 879 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 11: it is. Buddy Morris is the one who told me this. 880 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 11: He gave me like a fifty minute spill about this 881 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 11: on like a random Tuesday morning about kids need to 882 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 11: be knocked down picked up, and I'm like, okay, Buddy, 883 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 11: I gotta go work out. 884 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 9: It's Buddy Morris. The most strength coach the Rever was 885 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 9: or Albert. The saying goes about Buddy. You know what's 886 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 9: funny is I was trying to get some intel, like 887 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 9: on what makes Dennis Kardek so lethal? Is a pass 888 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 9: rusher and a lot of guys cited his balance and 889 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 9: what he does in boxing and like MMA in the 890 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 9: off season. 891 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 11: Yeah, it's all about hands and eyes. You know, it's 892 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 11: combative sport obviously, and it's very combative hands on whenever 893 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 11: it comes to engaging with a tackler, engaging with guards constantly, 894 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,439 Speaker 11: you're catching hands. Sometimes you're matching each other's hands. And yeah, 895 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,959 Speaker 11: he does have an off season. A lot of guys 896 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 11: do that. 897 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 9: By the way, you're avoiding the topic. Do you or 898 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 9: do you not believe in UFOs and aliens? 899 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 12: Oh? 900 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 11: Sorry, Yeah, I think I'll believe. It's a vast it's 901 00:35:59,000 --> 00:35:59,760 Speaker 11: a vast space. 902 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 6: Absolutely. 903 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 1: Yeah. 904 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, how does Josh Dobbs know? I 905 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 6: don't care what. 906 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 10: I might as well take off my head's at this 907 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 10: point because Paul can don't do the rest of. 908 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 7: The show about Yeah. 909 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 11: I mean, I don't look past Arizona much more or 910 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 11: less the space. 911 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 9: I don't get into that. I mean, a big thinker 912 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 9: like Josh. I mean, it sounds a little myopic to 913 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 9: think there's no UFOs and aliens. 914 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: Might be legally binded not to tell us. 915 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 6: That's, you know, to do the NASA internship, you probably 916 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:26,919 Speaker 6: signed something. 917 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: You've probably got level of free clearance that we don't 918 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: know about. 919 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 6: He's probably seen stuff that he just can't tell us about. 920 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree with him on that. Yeah, I do 921 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 9: agree with that. And that's no doubt he is. Uh, 922 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 9: he is impressive though. I mean, have you had a 923 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 9: chance to talk with Josh Dobbs, Like. 924 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 11: Yeah, We've had a little bit of conversation, not you know, 925 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 11: in detail like that about what he does. But he's 926 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 11: very intellectual, dude, very smart. 927 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 9: I mean for him to come in and just take 928 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 9: the offense over in like eight days, and I know, 929 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 9: I know he's in Cleveland, he's familiar with it, but 930 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 9: to get up there and actually you know, and he's 931 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 9: changing plays at the line and he's audibly and stuff. 932 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 11: I mean, it's that position's hard. I looked at one 933 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 11: of those scripts compared. 934 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: To ours, and it is. I mean it's a lot. 935 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 9: Yeah you thought playing middle linebackers, right, that's hard? Yeah, 936 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 9: that's yeah, no joke. Single game tickets on sale now. 937 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 9: I got to Easycardinals dot com. Slash buy tickets to 938 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 9: secure your seats today. All right, Cardinals going to LA. 939 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 9: It's beat l a week. Right, you got to pick 940 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 9: up on what the d Backs did against the Dodgers. 941 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 6: You're gonna go into Sofi and guess what last time 942 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 6: you went to Sofi? 943 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: You gotta win. 944 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 6: So what is the formula this time around? Well, last 945 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 6: Damon Collins. 946 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 9: When we come back, We're live from Trophy and Chandler 947 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 9: located on Queen Creek Road between Price and Dobson. Is 948 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 9: the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert. 949 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 5: Had On Connor up the middle into the end zone, touchdown, Arizona. 950 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 5: James Connor pays it off with a touchdown run to 951 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 5: give the Cardinals a nine to three. 952 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 3: Lead, and he's stoked it. Touchdown, Baby, that was sweet. 953 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 5: Give the Connor pop the left side, trying to get 954 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 5: the edge, stip farming at the ten, the five, the 955 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 5: end zone, he's in the Pit's a touchdown for Connor, 956 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:04,959 Speaker 5: his second of the day. 957 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 3: Give the ball to an angry man with an angry run. 958 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 6: James Connor. And that was last year at LA. 959 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 9: In fact, it's been beat LA each of the last 960 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 9: two regular season games in La by the Cardinals. It's 961 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 9: the Big Red Rangel presented by santan Ford and Gilbert 962 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 9: down the Stretch we call him with Zamon Collins. Everyone 963 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 9: live from Trophy and Chandler located on Queen Creek Road 964 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 9: between Price and Dobson. I don't have to tell you 965 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 9: what a tough tackle James Connor is. When you're on 966 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 9: the bench right and you get in your gatorade, do 967 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 9: you ever look up at the big screen and do 968 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 9: you ever laugh Guys wiping on him or getting trucked 969 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 9: by James Connor. 970 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 11: I mean, I just I honestly see that. Yeah, And 971 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 11: then I see some of the hits that he takes. 972 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 11: I'm like, man, that has to hurt. And then because 973 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 11: you know that we're just talking about, you know, how 974 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 11: guys get hit in the league. You know, Yes, full 975 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 11: size man coming out another full size man, full speed, 976 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 11: And yeah, I see the some of the hiss he takes, 977 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 11: and he just gets right back up and keeps going 978 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 11: and keeps going, keeps going, and I'm like, man, he's 979 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 11: definitely runs angry for sure. 980 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 10: The crazy thing is is recently he was talking to 981 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 10: the media. If someone was asking about those hits and 982 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 10: if he wakes up on a Monday fin like he 983 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 10: got hit by a bus. 984 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 7: He's like, no, not really, I'm like, how is that possible? 985 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 1: Yeah? I do. 986 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, what is what is a Monday morning like for you? 987 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 11: Uh? Well, in the morning, you'll get up and it's 988 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 11: that's like obviously, like when onset soreness, everything can barely move, 989 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 11: every joint hurts, and then you kind of get up, 990 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 11: work that out of you do a workout, do a run, 991 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 11: and then pretty much it'll be gone by Tuesday for 992 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 11: the most part, unless it's been a brutal game, you know, 993 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 11: playing people like Sam fran very you know downhill, very 994 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 11: physical game, people like the Eagles, very physical team. Uh yeah, 995 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 11: those games are you know, it's gonna be pretty sore. 996 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,280 Speaker 9: What's the worst last year when you were basically playing 997 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 9: every single snap at middle linebacker? 998 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 1: Yeah somewhat somewhat. 999 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 11: Yeah, it wasn't some vicious hits as it is like 1000 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:56,879 Speaker 11: against O Liman the whole time. 1001 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 6: That's true. Yeah, you're right, you trade one for the other. 1002 00:39:59,239 --> 00:39:59,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1003 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, Well here's your defensive coordinator. Nick rawlis just talking 1004 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 9: about the Rams, their quarterback who was big time. 1005 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,280 Speaker 6: They got some big time skill players. Obviously, here's nick rawlis. 1006 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 16: Right now, like they're playing at a at a high 1007 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 16: level quarterbacks. Obviously elite player can put the ball anywhere, 1008 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 16: and he's willing to put the ball anywhere, knows how 1009 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,800 Speaker 16: to get out of get it out of his hand fast, 1010 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 16: and uh, the skill are good. Obviously you saw Cooper 1011 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 16: Cup came back. He was definitely featured in that last game. 1012 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 16: He's got huge route tree that you got to account for. 1013 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 16: And overall mcveigh's offense is good. 1014 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:37,919 Speaker 6: No doubt. 1015 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 9: He's one of the still one of the great minds 1016 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 9: offensively in this league. Their top five and passing in 1017 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,280 Speaker 9: almost every category. So what what jumps off the film 1018 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 9: when you assess the rams Aapan. 1019 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 11: Yeah, like you said, they spread the ball out very well. 1020 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 11: You know, they get the ball to a lot of 1021 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 11: different players. They've had some young guys to up them 1022 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 11: be very very con contributing to their team. Obviously, Matthew 1023 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 11: Stafford and Cooper Cupper unreal players. Like they're saying the 1024 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 11: route that he you know, if you're playing, okay, we'll 1025 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 11: switch it up. We'll play outside leverage, he'll run something 1026 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 11: inside inside leverage. He'll you know, and they can do 1027 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 11: it on the fly by hand signals, all these things. 1028 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford's very smart. 1029 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 11: And the way he checks in and out of you know, coverages, blitches, 1030 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 11: all this stuff. 1031 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 1: It's it's unreal. 1032 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 10: It's interesting because Matthew Stafford might be so far this 1033 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 10: season the most immobile quarterback you would have faced in 1034 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 10: terms of he doesn't typically extend plays the way that 1035 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 10: some of the other quarterbacks you face have. But what 1036 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 10: you were saying, he's been in the league for so 1037 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 10: long he can see everything or read it so well 1038 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 10: that that doesn't really matter. 1039 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 7: That's not going to stop him from finding success. 1040 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 11: Yeah, he he He can definitely split the ball out 1041 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 11: whenever he wants to whoever he wants. He can make 1042 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 11: any throw on the field. Great arm, great at reading coverages. 1043 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 11: And you know, we'll expose you if you can do. 1044 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 11: If you do some things wrong, well you're gonna like 1045 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 11: this number. 1046 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 9: He's been sacked a dozen times in the past three games. 1047 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 9: So we'll see, we'll see if the Cardinals can get hold. 1048 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 9: I'm curious, like last year, you're playing middle linebacker, so 1049 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 9: to what degree is it middle line back against quarterback? 1050 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 9: You're checking into something. No, he's checking out as something. 1051 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 9: How much of that cat mouse game goes on? 1052 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 15: You know? 1053 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 11: For a QB, I think it's more about the disguise 1054 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 11: of the defense. You know, you want to make some 1055 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 11: things look like it's an umbrella in the back end, 1056 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 11: and then some things you have what's called post close 1057 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 11: where there's just one single guy high back there. And 1058 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 11: if you can disguise things on quarterback and change rapidly 1059 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 11: and suddenly you know, you can mess up some of 1060 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 11: their progressions, some of their reads. Because some quarterbacks like him, 1061 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 11: he's so smart. As soon as you give it, tip 1062 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 11: your hat or tip your hand, he will know what 1063 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 11: to do the ball instantly. And some of those wide 1064 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 11: receivers like Cooper Cup, if you show your leverage one time, 1065 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 11: he can figure out what to do off of it. 1066 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 10: You've made it clear you're not one to really trash talk, 1067 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 10: but when it's a divisional opponent like the rams A team, 1068 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,439 Speaker 10: you know that you're gonna end up seeing a second time. 1069 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 7: Is it get a little more chippy out there? 1070 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 6: Uh? 1071 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 11: No, It kind of depends on how the game goes. 1072 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,280 Speaker 11: If some dirty things have been done on the field, 1073 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 11: definitely can get more chippy. 1074 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, I I don't like to talk too much. 1075 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 11: I'll get out of breath and we'll fumble my words 1076 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 11: and do all kinds of things. 1077 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 7: I feel like that's what most people say. 1078 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 10: Who there's got to be someone on the defense who 1079 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 10: trash talks for everyone, right, who's the talker? 1080 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: Uh, there's really no talkers, honestly? 1081 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, Now, he says, yeah in the past, when 1082 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,879 Speaker 11: I was a rookie in last year, there was there's 1083 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 11: trash talkers, But there were really. 1084 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 9: A couple of talkers who got let go after the 1085 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 9: Niners game, a couple of dbs who were part of 1086 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 9: that down on the field. In fact, I'll say this, 1087 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 9: in that locker room at the Niners after that game, 1088 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 9: I got the sense the Cardinals both sides of the 1089 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,760 Speaker 9: ball looking forward to the rematch in December against the Niners. 1090 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,839 Speaker 9: That was an energetic game. 1091 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, playing the Niners playing you know, I 1092 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 11: believe the OC for the Seahawks. You know, the Seahawks, 1093 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 11: the Niners, and the Rams are all in our division. 1094 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 11: They all stem that often somewhat stems from a West 1095 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 11: Coast Shanahan tree, so they're very similar to how they 1096 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 11: do some things. So it's like you know, you get 1097 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 11: to play them quite a bit each year. See their techniques. 1098 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,359 Speaker 9: I hear from guys that like McVeigh and Shanahan try 1099 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 9: and steal your What do they mean by that. 1100 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 11: You know, they're gonna have a guy flash this way. 1101 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 11: You'll look and then someone's hitting you from this way 1102 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 11: and the ball will be spit out, you know. Or 1103 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 11: they'll run concepts where they try and get one on 1104 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 11: one with an advantage that they think is great for them. 1105 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: Uh, you know, they'll they. 1106 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 11: They'll make you think they're doing one thing and then bam, 1107 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 11: it's where they'll set things up. They'll run the same 1108 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 11: play over and over again, and then right when you 1109 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 11: think it's coming back to that, they'll pop it over 1110 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 11: the top. 1111 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 9: Saman we really enjoyed it. We really did great stuff, 1112 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:27,280 Speaker 9: great stuff. 1113 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 1: Thank you guys, Thank you, thank you all for coming. 1114 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 1: You know. 1115 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 9: And once again you go to the car page, you'll 1116 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 9: see his fit check. He was wired up in the 1117 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,720 Speaker 9: last game. So it's multi media. 1118 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: Busy, busy. The last couple of days. 1119 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 6: You need to go sit on your couch. 1120 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a good food from Trophy here and just 1121 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 9: chill out the rest of the night. 1122 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: Yep for sure. 1123 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 9: Hey special thanks to Zamon Collins for Danny Surrek on 1124 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 9: Paul Calvic Special. Thanks as always Jim Almahundro, Cody Fincher, 1125 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 9: Lauren colebel Walt Ellis, Lawrence Ellis as well. This has 1126 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 9: been The Big Red Rage was Zamon Collins and presented 1127 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 9: by Sansan Ford and Gilbert. 1128 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 6: We are Sansan Ford. 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