1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: All right, here we go. Let's do this another episode, 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: another episode. Welcome everybody to the Bark Tank the day 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: after the Browns lose to the Bengals here in Cleveland. 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: My name is Andrews Siciliano, coming to you today from 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: the Cross Country Mortgage Campus in Berea, Ohio. No longer 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: in the home office today with a scratchy voice and everything. 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: We are actually in the building after the Browns lose again. 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: They have dropped now five consecutive and they drop to 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: one and six. I think I said this last week. 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: I mean it more this week than any other time 11 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: we have done this show or I've spoken on a 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: Monday in a long, long time. There is a lot 13 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: to unpack from that game. The headline is obviously the 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: Browns lose. Headline number two is and maybe it's even 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: bigger than headline number one. Deshaun Watson torn achilles right achilles, 16 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 1: and he has done for the season. Deshaun's gonna have 17 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: season endings surgery. Well, the injury ended the season, but 18 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: surgery to fix the season ending injury this week and 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: then a long rehab process begins. Kevin Stefanski on Monday 20 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: did not have any insight as to what kind of 21 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: surgery it will be, meaning is it a traditional achilles 22 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: tear repair or is it what they call a speed 23 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: bridge repair surgery operation, which was the type of injury 24 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: or the type of surgery that Aaron Rodgers did last 25 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: year and the year before that Rams running back cam Acres. 26 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: It was a surgery that and again those injuries happened 27 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: early in the season for Rogers week one, four plays in, 28 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: and for cam Acers the year before in July, about 29 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: two weeks before training camp. The speed bit bridge procedure 30 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: by doctor Neil Elatrosh in Los Angeles can potentially get 31 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: you back in for five months. Now, the injury happening 32 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: week seven, that seems to be an unlikelihood. I'm not 33 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: a doctor. Deshaun's season is over. What kind of surgery 34 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: he has isn't really part of the story. What the 35 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: story is. He's not going to be on the field 36 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: this year and he'll be back potentially next season. Let's 37 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: talk about the elephant of the room here. Obviously, Brown's 38 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: players were upset after the game that the reaction when 39 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: DeShawn got hurt was mixed. Let's put it that way. 40 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: We're in the building clearly, and it was mixed. I 41 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: support players who support their teammates. You at home, support 42 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: your family members, you support your co workers. Those are 43 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: people that you live with and work with, and go 44 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: to battle with and support every day. When one of 45 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: them is hurt, when one of them is attacked, you 46 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: are going to support them. There's nothing wrong with that. 47 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: Matter of fact, it is the right thing to do. It's 48 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: also the right thing to do for you. Who were 49 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: in the stands that pushed back against those that were 50 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: cheering and booing in and somehow celebrating to Shawn's entry, 51 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: that's wrong. That's absolutely wrong. Talking to a lot of 52 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: people who were in the stands, my brother included, they 53 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: all said it was uncomfortable to hear that reaction. But 54 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: almost everybody told me that it was good that there 55 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: were those in the stands who told those people, hey man, 56 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: cut it out. So all of that is true. It 57 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: was wrong to react that way. It was right for 58 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: Browns players to support their teammates, and we can move forward. 59 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: It was uncomfortable, it truly was. I also think some 60 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: of the timing of Dorian Thompson Robinson warming up that 61 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: elicited some of the cheers as well, but clearly there 62 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: were those in the building that reacted the wrong way. 63 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: And I support players who defend their player that they 64 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: go to work with and battle with every day because 65 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: the only guy they know is the guy that's in 66 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: this building every day and the guy that they see 67 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: busting his tail to be out there. No, the performance 68 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: isn't what anyone wants. We all know that. But you 69 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: can't boo or you can't take joy in a player 70 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: getting injured. That's just wrong. It's wrong. We all know that. 71 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: I also celebrate the fans that were in the building 72 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: that had the right reaction and told those people reacting 73 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: in the wrong way that hey, we are better than that. 74 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: That's from where I stand in the booth, and Nathan's 75 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: going to join us later. He was there with me 76 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: as well. And look we're looking down on it. We're 77 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: fans as well. We're trying to paint the picture and 78 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: we all want the same thing, and that is good 79 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: play from everybody on the field and a victory. It 80 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: didn't happen. Now you turn the page and try to 81 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: figure out what to do moving forward, not only with 82 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: this team, but with the quarterback as well as we 83 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: sit here on Monday afternoon. That quarterback right now for 84 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: Week eight is very much a question mark. We know this. However, 85 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: Eventually Dorian Thompson Robinson is going to get a shot, 86 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: we think, and deserves a shot. I know at one 87 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: point this season for an extended run. I believe in 88 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: the guy. I really do. Want to go back to 89 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: a conversation I had with him before the draft when 90 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: I was at NFL Network. He came to the studios 91 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: hosting a show called NFL Now. At that point, he 92 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: had just visited here, visited the Browns in one of 93 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: his pre draft visits, and we talked a lot about 94 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: how great he thought the visit was, how he badly 95 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: wanted to come here, and then it worked out. A 96 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: couple of weeks later, fifth round pick, and he's here. 97 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: DTR started more than fifty games at UCLA for a 98 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: good offensive coordinator and head coach in Chip Kelly Guy. Obviously, 99 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: now with the Buckeyes, DTR experience means something. Look at 100 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: Brock Purty, look at bow Knicks, look at Dylan Gabriel. Sorry, 101 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: Buckeyes fans there at Oregon. When you start that many 102 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: games in college, that means something. You take that to 103 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: the next level. Part of what Anthony Richardson is going 104 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: through right now in Indianapolis is that he only had 105 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: a dozen starts in college. This is new to him. 106 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: DTR has started two and a half times more games 107 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: beyond high school, three times more games beyond high school 108 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: than Anthony Richardson. I really do believe that if you 109 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: give him an extended shot, he's gonna play good football. Now. 110 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: Is he the long term gut, I don't know, but 111 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: he deserves a shot. So tip of the cap to 112 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: him for making some plays. See the way the sideline 113 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: reacts on his thirty four yard run where he pulled it, 114 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: sprinted down the right sideline, picked up a first down. 115 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: They're gonna rally around him if it's him, and they're 116 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: gonna rally around Jamis Winston if it's him as well, 117 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: because Jamis, granted they're rushing for dropping seven. Jamis made 118 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: some throws. He made some throws, and you push the 119 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: ball downfield. You gotta do that if you want the 120 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: run game to open up. Warn't a lot of holes 121 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: there for Nick Chubb. You make the most of them. 122 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: The way you open up the run game is you 123 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: take shots downfield. You don't have to be chucking at 124 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: fifty yards downfield, but you have to keep defenses honest, 125 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: and I believe either of those quarterbacks will do that 126 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: whomever gets that shot. Some other positives I think from Sunday, 127 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: Cedric Tilman got his shot. DTR's teammate from Bishop Gorman 128 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: growing up in Las Vegas. Eight for eighty one. By 129 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: the way, that team in Vegas brief aside Jalen Naylor, 130 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: Dorian Thompson so DTR. His wide receivers were Cedric Tillman, 131 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: Jalen Naylor with the Vikings, and his tight end was 132 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: Brevan Jordan of the Texans. How about that for a 133 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: high school lineup? Go ahead and stop those guys. But 134 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: I digress. Cedric Tillman eight for eighty one. He made 135 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: plays chief ten receptions that ties the career high. He 136 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: had ten in the game against the Bears last year. 137 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: On the defensive side, Denzel Ward leads the NFL with 138 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: twelve passes broken up playing great football. J Okay I 139 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: thought should have had a tackle for a loss. They 140 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: said that one that he had at the line was 141 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: at the line that in the backfield he had seven 142 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: tackles he continues to be a shape shifter and play 143 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: great football. And Mike Hall as well, in only his 144 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: second game in the NFL, got in the backfield. Stat 145 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: sheet doesn't show it, but he was disruptive. He got upfield. 146 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: He was held at least once, maybe a couple of times. 147 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: Mike Hall is a disruptive player who is I think 148 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: already paying dividends. It again, He's only going to get better. 149 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: He is young and this is only his second game. 150 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: You have to build on those positives. You gotta look 151 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: for positives. There are enough positives where you got to 152 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: put them all together and hope that those positives can 153 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: lead to a win coming up next week against the Ravens. 154 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: Also want to say tip of the cap to William Drayton. 155 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: You know that is you also know him by flavor flave. 156 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: He is sixty five years old. It is hard to 157 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: break a guitar at sixty five years old, Okay, I 158 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: don't know that. We thought it would take a dozen swings, 159 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: as the dog Pound Captain, William Drayton, good job, buddy, 160 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: you got it done. It only took Jim Donovan one swing. 161 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: Sixty eight years old, the Great Jim Donovan sixty seven 162 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: when he did it. We love you, we missed you. 163 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: The great Jim Donovan broke that guitar. Flavor, Flave, legend 164 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: of my youth. Unable to break the guitar, but flavor. 165 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: We are happy were there and you know what it 166 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: really It led to a fun atmosphere and Nick Chubb. 167 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: I haven't even touched on Nick Chubb. Look, we've talked 168 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: a lot about Nick Chubb. We know what Nick Chubb means. 169 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: The number twenty four jerseys in the room, in the building, 170 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: those feels were real. I can't believe we're They're ten 171 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: minutes and I haven't talked about Nick Chubb. I can 172 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: tell you the Nick Chubb spoke to the team on 173 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: Saturday night. We talked about this a little bit on 174 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: the broadcast on Sunday. I'm told there were many a 175 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: moist eye in the audience. He didn't say much, but 176 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: it was a powerful message. He thanked his team for 177 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: supporting him on his comeback thirteen months. It was a 178 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: long road and you saw that emotion come out from 179 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: all of us in the building. I was down on 180 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: the field around the time. Was it ten thirty good 181 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: two and a half hours before the game, Nick Chubb 182 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: was the only man out there getting stretched, getting ready, 183 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: getting his mind right. I had somebody come up to 184 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: me and say, that guy would have slept here if 185 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: he could have. He was that ready for this moment. 186 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: And I know that you as a fan wherever you're 187 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: listening or watching this, and we as fans, were ready 188 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: for that moment as well. And clearly Nick was ready. 189 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: The pitch count was what it was. You're going to 190 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: see more Nick Chubb. He came through it fine. That's 191 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: the encouraging headline. No worse for wear on Monday morning 192 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: for Nick Chubb. He's had some great moments against the Ravens. 193 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: Hopefully we have some great moments this week when the 194 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: Ravens come to town as this three game homestand here continues. 195 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: All right, time for a special guest. Oh you want 196 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: to do this? Now? You ready? You're ready to Let's 197 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: get him in here, all right, Let's get him in here, 198 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: all right, because we are doing the Bark Tank actually 199 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: at the Cross Country Mortgage Campus today after the loss 200 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: to the Bengals. That means we could get the most 201 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: special of guests, the most It is my pleasure to 202 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: welcome for the very first time on the Bark Tank. 203 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: My partner on Sunday, my wingman. Actually I feel like 204 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: I'm his, that's the better way to say it. Nathan Ziggura. 205 00:12:58,440 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: It is great to. 206 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: See, it's great to say you, and what an introduction 207 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: and what an honor to be on the bar Tank, 208 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: hopefully the first of many forays into the podcasting realm. 209 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: Yes could use of fourays as if you had anything 210 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: else on your plate this week. I greatly appreciate you 211 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: doing this. Let's go back to what we saw on Sunday. 212 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: It was one of those and you and I talked 213 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: about this earlier. A roller coaster of emotions day, really 214 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: a roller coaster of emotions weekend. Yeah, the Guardians and 215 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: the Yankees, alcs. You had everything going on in town 216 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. You had 217 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: Flavor Flav unable to break a guitar for reasons that 218 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: still to this day escape me, regardless. Hey, William Drayton, 219 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: we love you. And then you had the football game, 220 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: and then you had Nick Chubbs scoring and getting in 221 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: and all the fields, all the happy emotions, and then 222 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: you had the Deshaun injury and everything that came with that, 223 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: which I know we will be unpacking undoubtedly for not 224 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: only days to come, but weeks to come, in months, 225 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: if not years to come. When you want walk in 226 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: the front door last night and you're back home and 227 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: someone says how to go, Like, how do you even 228 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: begin to explain what that Sunday felt like? 229 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: It's a really good question. I'll kind of take it back. 230 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: I know, yeah, because there were so much happened, and 231 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: in some ways things that are going to have long 232 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: term ramifications, some that will certainly not have his long 233 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: term ramifications. But I could tell you driving in to 234 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: the stadium yesterday through the Mouni lot and you see 235 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: everybody out there, the excitement that was there, and then 236 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 2: past Burke Lakefront Airport and it felt like, to my 237 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: amateur ei there were a thousand private jets there. I'd 238 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: never see. I mean, they were literally everywhere at that airport. 239 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: I had never seen that before night. 240 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Julia Roberts was in town, Share was in town, 241 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: I was in town. Everybody was in town. 242 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: So as I walk into the building and then we're 243 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: getting ready to do a countdown, it's every two minutes 244 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 2: Pj's taken off. It was really actually kind of funny. 245 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, this is maybe this is uh, this 246 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: portends well for the day, but you know, you had 247 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: kind of that roller coaster dichotomy that in some ways 248 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 2: and unfortunately the Brown Seas in terms of the record, 249 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: it hasn't been much of a dichotomy. But even in 250 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: the introductions from some people that were fan favorites, some 251 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: that were not, and then Nick Chubb obviously the massive 252 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: ovation and the goosebumps that we all had in the booth, 253 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: and you're saying yourself, this is the day this team 254 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: gets back on track. Yep today, and then the opening 255 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 2: kickoff happens and it's seven nothing Bengals untouched basically for 256 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: the first eighty five yards of his return, Charlie Jones, 257 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: and you're saying, here we go again. And I try 258 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 2: to be positive and say, you know, well, we started 259 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: the Giants game kind of in a similar fashion. 260 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: And Coy interrupt real quick, you may because so this 261 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: is this is your show, brother, No, no, no, this is 262 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: a push pull between us, and not in a in 263 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: a combative way, but on Sundays in the booth, just 264 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: to take people inside, we both kind of deal with 265 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: things differently, and sometimes you're not negative this is off 266 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: the air. You're like, oh man, was me? And sometimes 267 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm the no, no, no, no, like we can do this, 268 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: and I think it's actually like a really good mix 269 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: that way, but there's always that push pull between us. 270 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: But I wanted to say I kind of felt what 271 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: you failed after the Charlie Jones run back, after I 272 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: got past the wait a minute, is he inner out 273 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: of bounds there? Because the officials could make up their 274 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: minds and it's a touchdown, but yes, I feel you 275 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: keep going. 276 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was you know, that didn't wasn't a 277 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: strong start. 278 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: And then. 279 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: Defense is playing great and you're like, okay, this is 280 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: they play well against Burrow. He's never won in this building. 281 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: This is this is setting up well. But again, the offense, 282 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: while some of the stats look good, complete a percentage 283 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: for DeShawn certainly looked good, it just wasn't yielding anything. 284 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: And then you get down there and you're like, okay, 285 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 2: we're kind of in a position to score some points here. 286 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 2: And then it happens and it's the design quarterback run 287 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 2: and we watch it and the way he went down, 288 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: I was kind of like that was weird, and we 289 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: thought maybe he lost his footing and then. 290 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: It's like, oh man, here's the replay. 291 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: Here yeap, and you're like, okay, we knew right away 292 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 2: that that was his achilles and that that was going 293 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 2: to be very serious. And then it became this very 294 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: odd scene, and I think generally speaking, a somber scene. 295 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 2: We know that there were some things that may have 296 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 2: happened that that players were unhappy about, but I'm focusing 297 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: on just the general From where we were in the booth, 298 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: it was this kind of hush falls over the stadium 299 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: and and then you realize right there, who knows if 300 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 2: or when Deshaun Watson will play again, because this is 301 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: a significant injury. Dtr comes in, gets the pass interference. 302 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 2: It's kind of the first pass we'd even really seen 303 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 2: go down the field, and then we get down to 304 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: the one and we're talking. We're like, man, Nick Chubb, 305 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 2: this is what it's all about. Get him into the 306 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: end zone. He does, but as has happened three weeks 307 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: in a row, inside the five yard line of the 308 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 2: opponent an offensive line penalty. 309 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,479 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think Michael dunlined up off sides. 310 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: I'm not one to always criticize the officials. So I 311 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: watched it. 312 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 2: I watched it, and there's no good shot there to 313 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 2: what I'll say is because you you mentioned it to me. 314 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: And a TV copy, there's no good shot either. You 315 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: don't see no. 316 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 2: So he got so low and it's like next man. 317 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: You know, low man wins. Obviously in the trenches that 318 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 2: it almost looked like his head was where the ball was. 319 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: So I'm guessing that perhaps it was an optical illusion. 320 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 2: I don't know that he was actually off sides, but 321 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: he was lined up in a very different way than 322 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: everybody around him. 323 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: So pull the curtain back a little bit. Unofficiating, that 324 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: is a point of emphasis, specifically because of the tush push, 325 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: because of how Philadelphia has been so successful the last 326 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: couple of years. Yep, that is a way you're not 327 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,719 Speaker 1: gonna end. You're not gonna take the tush push away, right, 328 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: even Joka two weeks you said he's all for it, 329 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: like until somebody stops it. But the way they're trying 330 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: to police it a little bit is telling those old 331 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: linemen and it wasn't a tush push. They handed it 332 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: off to Nick and. 333 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 2: By the way they ran left exactly nothing to do with. 334 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: Mike telling those old linemen you can't get that low. 335 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: So I wonder if that's what they were. I think 336 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: that's what said. When I looked at it, what looked 337 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 2: at normal to me was how bent over and low 338 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 2: he was growing. Nonetheless, back it up. You end up 339 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 2: getting down there fourth down and boom in goes Nick 340 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 2: Chubb and you, yes, what a great moment. Think about 341 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 2: everything that the guy's been through. The crowd is going nuts. 342 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 2: There was an energy in the building. We're back, baby, right, 343 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 2: Browns are back. And then you missed the extra point, 344 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 2: and it was similar in Vegas. You get the Rodney 345 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: mcclouds scoop and score, and then he missed the extra 346 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 2: point and then it's that little deflating. But it's only 347 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 2: seven to six, Only seven to six, and now you've 348 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: already had a missfield goal. Though you've had this, you 349 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 2: feel like, man, we should be ahead. We're going to 350 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 2: get the ball to start the second half, and unfortunately 351 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 2: you have a nice drive going on a fourth down play. 352 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: You need one guy to make a block, Deontae Forman 353 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 2: to pick up on Bell. He doesn't incomplete, and it 354 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 2: felt like from that point on, that was it. So 355 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 2: that's a very long winded way of saying that it 356 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: was a game where you came into it and said, listen, 357 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: we haven't lost here to this team since twenty seventeen. 358 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 2: This is the time to get right. We win this game. 359 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 2: Guess what, even though we did bad against the NFC East, 360 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 2: we're two and one in the AFC, want to zero 361 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 2: in the division. Maybe we're not out of this just yet. 362 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: And then there would be signs of good good, good, 363 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: and then something bad or good good good, bad, bad 364 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 2: bad bad, a little good, so you're back. Oh man, 365 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: we're back, and unfortunately it just it came up short, 366 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 2: and then you left it with now not just questions 367 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 2: about this team for this season that's been off to 368 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 2: an unbelievably disappointing start, but you're left with questions, now, 369 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: who are we in twenty twenty five and beyond and 370 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 2: are we immediately And I think the answer is yes, 371 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 2: back into trying to figure out is they're an in 372 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 2: house solution and that would be dtr YEP to this 373 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 2: quarterback problem, or are we looking at the draft again 374 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: and trying to find somebody to play that position for 375 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: us long term. 376 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: And that answer obviously is part of what you have 377 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: to unpack the rest of the season. The question is 378 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: when will DTR be ready to go out there to 379 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: get that next test. Last year in Denver, he had 380 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: his moments. We're like, all right, I could see it. 381 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 2: Last three possessions yielded. 382 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: Points exactly in Pittsburgh against Pittsburgh rather here. Look, they won. 383 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: He made the plays at the end of the game. 384 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: That's all the matter. When you're a rookie quarterback, you're 385 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: a fifth round pick, you had the week of preparation. 386 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: Unlike the Ravens game in September, you had your week. 387 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: You showed signs talking to somebody on the Cincinnati side 388 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: before the game before any of this happened, and they 389 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: pointed out we really liked DTR coming out. People liked 390 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: Dorian Thompson Robinson coming out of the draft. I remember 391 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: when I was at NFL Network, We're doing the Senior Bowl. 392 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: I was talking to Daniel Jeremiah. DTR wasn't actually there 393 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl with memory serves, but I said, hey, 394 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: give me a quarterback. Forget about the first round, guys, 395 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: give me a quarterback where you say if I have 396 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: that guy as a rookie on my roster and I 397 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: need somebody that could get me through a few games 398 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: in the middle of the season, a guy that's a 399 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: real player, a guy that I believe in, he goes. 400 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: Let's take Dorian Thompson Robinson. So there is a belief, 401 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: not just here in this building. He was the number 402 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: two yesterday, team called for him this preseason. There is 403 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: a belief that dtr can be that guy. Now as 404 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: we sit here, full disclosure, we're taping this on Monday afternoon. 405 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: As we sit here, his status is still up in 406 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: the air, whether it is this week against Baltimore or 407 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: whether it's maybe after the bye middle of November. Dorian 408 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: Thompson Robinson deserves and is going to get a shot. Agreed. 409 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: I believe in the guy, saying he now has potentially 410 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: six weeks to show what he can do, and it 411 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: really is a test because you win a couple of games, 412 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: then you're not potentially in a draft position to go 413 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: get one of the primo guys. And that's always the 414 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: difficult thing. Right If I'm just going down the road 415 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: of you said, do you potentially go draft a quarterback? 416 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: I know it's very early, right, and we're talking about 417 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: exceedingly early. Yeah, exceedingly early. But it's that weird thing 418 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: in the NFL. I'll go back to Dak. People say, well, 419 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: they should have let Dak's contract go, let it hold on, 420 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: play it out, go to free agency. I'm like, okay, 421 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: but you weren't going to be so bad that you 422 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: were in a position to replace him at the top 423 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: of the draft next year. It's a weird position to be. 424 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 2: In, it is, And I think, you know, in my 425 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: mind this is again to me speaking, you know, I 426 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 2: think you start jamis the two home games, take the 427 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: bye week, and then you give DTR two weeks to 428 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: get ready and say you've got eight games the rest 429 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 2: of the season to show us what you can do 430 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 2: and what you can be, and if it goes well, 431 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,479 Speaker 2: perhaps that's great. Now you could say, Okay, we got 432 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 2: a guy in a fifth round deal for two more 433 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 2: years that we can roll with and we'll try to 434 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 2: build around him. And if it's not, then likely you 435 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 2: will be in a position to take one of those 436 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: early quarterbacks. So I think that's where you are. I 437 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 2: do have a lot of belief in DTR. I know 438 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: the team has a lot of You saw the way 439 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: they react to him on the sideline. He has their 440 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 2: leadership quality about him. He played a lot in college, 441 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 2: yields every record at UCLA that you can possibly hold. 442 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 2: I like him a lot, and he's going to get 443 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 2: his opportunity now to be that guy at some point 444 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 2: this season. It will be up to come and Sefanski 445 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 2: obviously when that is, and his finger obviously will play 446 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 2: a role in that. And it actually the injury to 447 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: his finger occurred. I tooked him after the game prior 448 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: to the interception. We thought it had. 449 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: Prior to return. I thought was on the tackle. 450 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 2: No, it was on when he got knocked to the 451 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,719 Speaker 2: ground ones and put his finger hand down and somehow 452 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 2: that that got it. So you wonder if this that 453 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 2: affect his ability to grip the football and when he 454 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 2: airmails Jerry Judy and probably answers yes. 455 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: You would think you would think so. 456 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 2: I'm excited to see him, and it's again, it's just 457 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: it's kind of stunning, you know that this is where 458 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 2: we are. We did know that the Browns, even prior 459 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: to this game, had an idea that they were already 460 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 2: at least maybe a toe into twenty twenty five when 461 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: he traded Marie Cooper h And now you're probably a 462 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: full firm foot into twenty twenty five and beyond, No. 463 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: We also have to put a foot into week eight 464 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: as well. That sounded out, but you get my points 465 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: just going with what you you had there. Week eight 466 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: is the Ravens. Ravens tied to dtr obviously came here. 467 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: He didn't necessarily expect whatever very difficult, very difficult situation 468 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: he was thrust onto the field, it didn't necessarily go well, 469 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: and then the Steelers game it went better. Yep, when 470 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: the next time he got that opportunity one, however, in 471 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: Baltimore last year and one with the defense stepping up 472 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: and making place. This defense in many ways was built 473 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: to go after a guy like Lamar Jackson right speed 474 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: on defense, speed on the line, Michael Hall in the middle. 475 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: J Okay was very much a player who was drafted 476 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson in mind. There is a blueprint that 477 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: this defense has and the defense that held Joe Burrowed 478 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: only fourteen in that loss. Number seven came from the kickoff. 479 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: This defense has shown the ability to No. One stops 480 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: a two time MVP, but shown the ability to make 481 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: it difficult and frustrating for him. But this year it's 482 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: not just Lamar Jackson. That Derrick Henry guy is pretty 483 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 1: good and that changes the math with everything. He is 484 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: now running against light boxes for the first time in 485 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: his career. That's scary. 486 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, And he's been scary going into this week's game. 487 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: Was the leading rusher in terms of yards per game 488 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 2: in the National Football League. They've got Jay Flowers, Mark 489 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 2: Andrews is finally rounding into for him. They're using a 490 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: lot of multiple tight end formations, and Isaiah Likely and 491 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: even Kohler are doing well. They are a full day. 492 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 2: But to your point, the Browns have done a great job. 493 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 2: You go back to that year. Last year Browns were 494 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 2: down double digits in the fourth quarter, yep, and you 495 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 2: get a Greg Newsom pick six and then the Browns 496 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 2: are able to go on and ultimately win that football game. 497 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 2: But yet you are built in many ways to deal 498 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 2: with Lamar Jackson. With the sideline of sideline speed, you 499 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 2: have the ability to put not only Joka but delp 500 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 2: It down in the box as we do, and it's 501 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 2: going to be a very tall task. We are going 502 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 2: to have to be better tacklers than we have been. 503 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: We had another game with you know, a dozen miss 504 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 2: tackles last week against the Bengals. You're going to have 505 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: to be better because Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson are 506 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: the kind of guys that if you miss tackles on them, 507 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: can make you pay by And when I say make 508 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 2: you pay, take it to the house. 509 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely. I know I've said this to you countless times 510 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: off the air, but now that we're in the bark 511 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: tank on the air, truly to me, thank you for 512 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: thank you making my transition as easy as it could 513 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: be in the booth and during the week because I'm 514 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: not necessarily here and you are and doing all the 515 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: dirty work and all the not dirty you know what 516 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying, but doing all the heavy lifting during the week. 517 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 2: So I appreciate you, appreciate you as well, and hopefully 518 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 2: we'll get to call some more wins. And I guess 519 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: I could have answered your original question, which. 520 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: Was easier walking in the door. 521 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, where's the line? That was kind of how that's 522 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 2: how I saw where's the line? 523 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: It's funny. I had dinner with my brother and my 524 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: niece who came to town. You saw them before the game, 525 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: and then we had dinner and took them back to 526 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: the airport, and then I stopped picked up a sixer 527 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: of Joe Thomas colsch yes col seventy three, went home, 528 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: put my feet up on the table and fell asleep 529 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: watching Steelers fans boo Russell Wilson. 530 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 2: And then when you woke up, wait a minute, I 531 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: fell asleep. 532 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 1: They were losing. 533 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 2: Well, hopefully we'll have those similar toasts in the future 534 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 2: in celebration. But thank you as well. Man. 535 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: It's Nathan Seger. Everybody obviously listened to him during the 536 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: week on CBD and the Browns YouTube channel and everywhere 537 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: on the Browns media platforms. That that's gonna be it 538 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: for this edition of the Bark Tank. We are back 539 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 1: next week after week gad after what will be fingers 540 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: frosst here right, this is like Baltimore material a win 541 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: over the Ravens. See it.