1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Media. 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 2: Well, so Foo, where you votos from me? A sock chack. 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: Homie today this episode, I don't know if I'll relate 4 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: to anything more closer than the narrative of this story, Bogle, 5 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: like a A l Vato vaio. This is full el 6 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: president el helfe bougere bg that food down to the 7 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: ground day he out here sock checking food. Sock check Homie. 8 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: You don't know what a sock check is. You don't 9 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: know enough aboutos. This is the El Salvador episode about 10 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: President Bugle, because there's this is the convergence, the literal 11 00:00:54,800 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: convergence of gang life and politics. The parallel was in 12 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: my life one the things that I personally experienced because 13 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: the origin story of this was here La specifically the 14 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: part of l A that I was around, y'all know, 15 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: I'll talk about all the time I grew up with Vatos. 16 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: This. 17 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: I've never felt more equipped to talk about a topic 18 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: than this was. And even what he what we're actually 19 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: gonna talk about later on in the show is like 20 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: it was he it was the nineties like this was. 21 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: I've never felt more equip talk about it anyway, b 22 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: Ga said, soft check homie hood politics, no, no, no, no, no, 23 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: you know what los politicos thevidio and Okay, when diamel 24 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: if I saw a kik cricket. Listen in this episode 25 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: on some r Lebau call in our a, I want 26 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: to send and dedicate this song through Mayavado creeper. 27 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 2: Keep your head up. I am your puppet and your 28 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: baby side ice. She will always stay down for you. 29 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: And then you play the song. I wish y'all knew 30 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: about the r Lebaul call in hour. It was he 31 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: just passed away. And this white man became such an 32 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: important part to La street culture, uh specifically Latino culture 33 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: because he would play like oldies, these like old soul 34 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: songs and foods, would call in and dedicate songs to 35 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: like their loved ones, and most of the time it 36 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: be loved ones they had locked up. It's a very 37 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: La thing. Rest in peace, Arlebau. This episode of her Politics, 38 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: we have to talk about that. We have to talk 39 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: about else by Lord and President Buglee and it's there 40 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: is a layer of complication that I want to lay out. 41 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: But you gotta understand the history and the context and 42 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: why I feel so connected to this early nineties, there 43 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: was a civil. 44 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: War that news flashed. 45 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: America played a big role in having to do with 46 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: El Salvador had a gentry, wealthy landowners who essentially. 47 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: Ran the country and. 48 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: Was the government was just like basically their toys. America 49 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: played a role in this, which again needs its whole 50 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: other topic. But all that to say that started bringing 51 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: El Salvadorans fleeing El Salvador, some getting exiled, some getting deported, 52 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: some fleeing to America. And where they came was MacArthur Park. 53 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: MacArthur Park is now let me talk Gentrified CALLI to 54 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: try to tie this up for you. First of all, 55 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: MacArthur Park was where the radiotron existed, like if you 56 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: remember the movies Breaking and Breaking to Electric Boogaloo. It 57 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: was the first like early eighties hip hop spot was 58 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: at the radio tron, and the radio tron was a 59 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: MacArthur Park. Later on, MacArthur Park, because of like I said, 60 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: what was going on in our society, became the hub 61 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,799 Speaker 1: of the El Salvadorian community. 62 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 2: They landed right in the. 63 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: Area next to Pico Union, which is right next to 64 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: Echo Park, and then and then to the east of 65 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: them is like downtown La Downtown La has my child. 66 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: It was basically a no man's land like it's. It 67 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: was like Blade Runner over there until La Live and 68 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: all that stuff, and then it got all hit. But 69 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: before that, nobody went to downtown La. But east of it, 70 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: I mean, but west of it. You know, you would have, 71 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: like I said, you have MacArthur Park, Wiltshire District, Korea Town. 72 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 2: All of that was going west. 73 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,559 Speaker 1: So that's like kind of north of Like I said, 74 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: I am from originally south Central. This is on north 75 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: of the ten free separates north and south, and then 76 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: the one ten Freeway separates east and west. So this 77 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: is northwest of downtown. 78 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: Now. 79 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: Next to that is Peaco Union, which is liam Vato Land. 80 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: North of them is Echo Park. You remember the movie. 81 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: You probably don't remember the movie, but me via Loka. 82 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: Echo Park now is where you could do goat yoga 83 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: because it's completely gentrified, right next to historic Filipino Town, 84 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: which was like also these were these were gang territories 85 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: that were already organized, borders were set, everybody knew what 86 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: it was. 87 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: Cement was settled. The Salvadorians came here, and the sense 88 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 2: is what's. 89 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: So different about My wife brought this up what's so 90 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: different about the Asian It's I hate saying it like this, 91 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: but the Asian experience and the Latino experience is and 92 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: my wife has made this mistake before. 93 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: You. The more you hang around. 94 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: Asian people, you could tell they you could tell they 95 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: don't look alike like and but they all have their 96 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: same language, they all have their they all have different 97 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: languages Korean, Japanese, Cantonese, Mandarin. So because Asia wasn't colonized 98 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: in the way that Central in South America was, they 99 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: all speak Spanish, right, so there's a shared give or 100 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: takes some Portuguese. There's a shared like language among the 101 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: Latino diaspora. You know, give or take a few indigenous folks, 102 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: but they all speak Spanish. And you could take the 103 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: most hardened, the most Azilain Mexicano and they can't tell 104 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: you the difference. They can't look at the no Salvadorian 105 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: coast Rican and look at them and say they You 106 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: can't tell by their look. 107 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 2: You're gonna tell a boy their accent and when. 108 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: They tell you, unless there are certain telltale signs. There 109 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: are certain characteristics, certain ways you carry yourself, a certain way. 110 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: You understand that are culturally because these are in fact 111 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: different countries and different cultures. 112 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 2: Right. 113 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: So, but when they got here, y'all all spoke spanon. Now, 114 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: by the time they got here, you have to remember 115 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: the Mexican American. First of all, there was such thing 116 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: as a Mexican a Chicano. We didn't already have Chikano movie. 117 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: We didn't have the Zutsu Riots, we didn't have the 118 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: Brown Berets like they have established themselves as a part 119 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: of America for decades, because remember California was Mexico, so 120 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: they've been here. 121 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: Now as far as. 122 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: The street life, these rules are already established. 123 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: There was already a gang in MacArthur Park. 124 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: It's eighteenth Street b Seolcho like one of the most 125 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: notorious street gangs in their world. 126 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: Now. 127 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: The difference though, between crips and bloods and Black gang 128 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: banging and the Mexican gang banging is there's a set 129 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: hierarchy everyone you liam runs it, which is the Mexican mafia, 130 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: the prison thing. They they run the shit. Now it 131 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: might be different now, you know what I'm saying, because 132 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: not in that life, but the general understanding is, no 133 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: matter what you guys are doing on the streets. Everybody 134 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: pays like twenty because that's how the product gets here. 135 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: The coyotes comany bringing away from Mexico, you tap in 136 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: with the mafia. The Mexican mafia. They run it righthend 137 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: comes through the jail, they call the shots. There's a hierarchy. 138 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: You don't kill nobody unless you get the word. It's 139 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: much more like a mafia. The street warshit is like, 140 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: of course it happens, of course because you get hot heads. 141 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: But like they not like cribs and blood we are. 142 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: They have a corporate structure, if you will. And black folks, 143 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: we bought our drugs from the Mexican You bought our 144 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: drugs from the essays from you know, if you was 145 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: back east, you say from the Spanish dudes, that's who 146 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: you bought it from. 147 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 2: Paco. Paco. Paco got you to wait when the El 148 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: Salvadorians got here. There is you have to. 149 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: Remember among the Latino community, there is a little bit 150 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,599 Speaker 1: of anti this and that sentiment among each other. Mexicans 151 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: traditionally don't really get along with El Salvadorians. The matter 152 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: of fact, there's like some prejudice there that like don't 153 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: really they don't really mess with them. They have like 154 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: derogatory names for Salvadorians, you know, in the same way 155 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: that now listen, I'm not saying this in on the 156 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: eye horse, and same way black people have about Africa, 157 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: the same way Caribbeans. Caribbean people have about Africans, the 158 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: way Africans have about American black people, like we have 159 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: our own self hate in the community. They don't necessarily 160 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: get along. So you got people who were fighting in 161 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: a civil war in El Salvador against each other. Once 162 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: they get here, oh we arm in arm we all 163 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: we got. See that's how the immigrant population work. When 164 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: you get to a place and you realize like, oh shit, 165 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: were the only ones that don't we all we. 166 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 2: Got is up us? 167 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: And you jump into a place that is so racially 168 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: charged as is America as a whole, let alone California. 169 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: And when they got here in the nineties, this is 170 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: this is the height when they got here. So you 171 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: landed in a place that was already violent, with an 172 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: already established rules where even your own RASA doesn't they 173 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: not even messing with you. So they was like, well shit, 174 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: they formed their own hood and mess thirteen Maltruca. So 175 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,599 Speaker 1: they formed their own gang and the difference between them, 176 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: at least from our perspective, or as in black people 177 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: saffence between them and like the Vathos we were used to. 178 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: The vatos we were used to again, they had a 179 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: code and we was in business together. You stayed at 180 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: a turf, We stayed at a turf. They stay at ours. 181 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: Like I kid you not the city I live in now. 182 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: I never came here. We black people, we were not allowed. 183 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: I just and it was understood. This was they hood. You. 184 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: You better lead them vothos alone. They take that shit 185 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: like I was seen as a threat. They took it 186 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: very silly. I came over here for a few parties 187 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: and learned quickly I'm not welcome over here. The only 188 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: person black people over here in this city was Will 189 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: I Am because he was born in this part of town. 190 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: But fam we didn't come. And as far as like 191 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: the street stuff, it was just understood this was their world. 192 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: We were in business together. How was we supposed to 193 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: know the difference between a Mexican and an El Salvadorian, 194 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: which created an issue. 195 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: We was in business, but I can't tell the difference. 196 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: You beefed in jail like the war and shit happened 197 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: in jail, the turf wars, the street shit that happened. 198 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: But like Cris was more worried about other black people, 199 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: was more worried about other cribsets, other bloods. 200 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: We was more worried about that. Bothos. 201 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: You just left them alone, like you on, won't fuck 202 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: with them. They had their own shit, and whenever we clashes, 203 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: it was bad. 204 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 2: I mean bad. 205 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: Long Beach probably got it the worst. Essentially, we antouldn't 206 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: do with that. That's y'all shit. We as in black 207 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: people until it came to business because off Salvador figured out, well, 208 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: for Columbia to get to Mexico, you got to go 209 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 1: throughout Salvador, and they figured out black people can't tell 210 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: the difference between us. You insert yourself in the supply chain. 211 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: All you know is Wan Carlo pulled up with the weight, 212 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: and then Miguel Rodriguez pulled up and he like, I 213 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: got your weight. 214 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 2: You like what nigga got? 215 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: You already bought it, bought it from who, I don't know, 216 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: your homeboy one cars nigga, I don't know. So then 217 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: now Mexican's mad at us because they feel like we 218 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: cheating and through y'all just walked off with a couple 219 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: hundred bands. And now they beefing, they like, and now 220 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: they mad at Now they mad at the Mexicans, and 221 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: now that's they thing. 222 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 2: We like. I mean, nigga, I don't know. 223 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: Like y'all get y'all, y'all aught the same to us, 224 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: nigga racism, But it became a thing like MS thirteen 225 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: put they and they were so terrifying, and niggas walked. 226 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: Around with machetes. 227 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding machetes, but that's because yeah, in Central America, 228 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 1: that's pretty normal, you know what I'm saying, Like you 229 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: cutting down trees number one. 230 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 2: And then number two. 231 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: Like I said, the difference between I didn't get to 232 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: this point, but the difference between the two was. 233 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: Like like I said, the Vathos were. 234 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: They was very organized, they had they had a corporate 235 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: way of running things. Salvadorians were brawlers, they were machette 236 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: just the level of I cannot stress the MS thirteen vio. 237 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of like political propaganda, fun 238 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: intended all this extras that they be putting on it 239 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: because they doing it because they're racist. I'm doing it 240 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: because I was here. Fam Man Truca MS thirteen stayed 241 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: a hell out they way and thirteen different is Sawdeniel 242 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: like different than Northaniel, which. 243 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 2: Is like which was Thoris. 244 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: It's or they got there, they got their rules, like 245 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: the Latinos got their rules. 246 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: It's a little different. 247 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: But Thrucha MS thirteen they had something to prove because 248 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: it was so few of them, and you stepping into 249 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: a system that like there's no work, there's no help. 250 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: They just realized that, like, oh shit, America's racist. You 251 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: just think I'm They've probably been called they were called 252 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: Mexican probably everywhere they went, you know what I'm saying. 253 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: So for them, they was like, I mean, what are 254 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: we supposed to do? And these as kids who was 255 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: fighting in civil wars you know when you come from 256 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: a war torn third world country. That's why, like didn't 257 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: nobody mess with the Cambodians, didn't buy mess with them Micronesian, 258 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And like when the Asian 259 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: gang started coming over here, it was like Nigga, they 260 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: fight armies, so like their level of violence is so 261 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: different than ours, Like it's violent, but it's like. 262 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: Oh, fam they used to fight in military. 263 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: Anyway, Marua like it was like Soword Machetty broad daylight 264 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: like they just were the I cannot under I can't 265 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: overstate how violent. 266 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: They were as a gang. Bad Okay. 267 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: Now what happened next was the Great Deportation. When the 268 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: war on drugs and the gang injunction started happening in California, 269 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: food started to get deported. Now we were being black 270 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: people was facing mass incarceration. A lot of the Mexicans 271 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: were facing mass incarceration because we live here, we were, 272 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: we're you know, multi generational, we've been here for ever. 273 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: If you get deported, nigga, you get deported. And they 274 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: was dropping them out, Salvadorians off by the bus. 275 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 2: Back. 276 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: You think deportation is crazy. Now they was rounding them 277 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: niggas up and sending them home. Then Vothos was getting 278 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: sent home full and where and what they did when 279 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: they got home was exactly what what happened with black 280 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: people when they got sent off to live with their 281 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: aunties in the South. 282 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: Explain that after this breath, all right, we're back. I have. 283 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: Very distinct memories of because I'm a because I'm an 284 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: old being on three way on the phone with you 285 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: know a little girls. I was trying to hog ad 286 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: in some of the homies. Whatever we would be asking 287 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: about one of the friends that we just ain't seen 288 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: in a while. I think I may have told this 289 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: story before on the show, but like this was a 290 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: normal interaction where we would be like, am I. 291 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: Seeing Andre Andre? 292 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: And Andre went to go spend the summer in Arkansas 293 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: or Memphis or Atlanta with his auntie or he had 294 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: to go live with his grandma and then he'd have 295 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: to stay why because he was getting in trouble. Once 296 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: you hit age of recruitment out here, your best bet, 297 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: a lot of families decided they would just send they 298 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: boys away, go live with your auntie. It's too violent 299 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: out here, right, You starting to make bad decisions, man, 300 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: They gonna like you're gonna go out there worked in 301 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: fields and really realize what's going on. You get sent 302 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: to Oklahoma, You get sent to all these hot bets, Okay, 303 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: see Tasa, all these cities where before the Great Migration 304 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: where we came from, we got sent back to stay 305 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: with the aunties. Now we would have it also like 306 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 1: the Latino Homies. It would be more like they'd have 307 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: to go work. It would be the middle of the 308 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: year and they'd have to go to Mexico to work 309 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: with their grandpa. Then they would be back. You know 310 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But you just had to go work 311 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: a field, and you just had to go back. They 312 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: needed money. You're a THEA needs money, so you have 313 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: to go down there at work. That's just what it 314 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: was with us, though I can say distinctly purposefully, we 315 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: were sent off to try to avoid the gang life. 316 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: And for us out here in Cali, that person would 317 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: cease to exist, like they would just fall oft the 318 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: phase of the earth. I don't really a it's just 319 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: it's done, like you just never think about them again, 320 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: like they were gone. And I never connected the dots 321 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: because in Kansas City there's a neighborhood crypt there's a 322 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: Rolling Sixties gang. There's neighborhood in ok See, in Tulsa 323 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: there's Bloods, There's all these neighborhoods. There's all these hoods 324 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: to playboy gangsters, all these sixties twenty these photies, all 325 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: these things that are named after actual streets. In California, 326 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: it's called Rolling Sixties because that's they were in the 327 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: sixtieth blocks, you know, said, and then you'd find them 328 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: in and I, for the life of me, could not understand, 329 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: like why y'all got gangs named after California streets. Nigga, 330 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: it's the kids that got sent off when we was 331 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: in middle school. They just went there and got it 332 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: cracking and started creating sets in their neighbor and they 333 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: could run. 334 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: You'd run. You were kings. 335 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: You came from this place where you learned all the game, 336 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: everything you needed to do because you had to survive 337 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: where you were. 338 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: You just went out there and you just ruled the world. 339 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: They had it appen on a microcosm in America, in 340 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: California suburbs. Yo, yo, yo, Mama, get a house, you 341 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: get a tax return, you move out to the burbs, 342 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: or you like, oh, I'm gonna run this, do you. 343 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying? 344 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: Until somebody else's family from Long Beach or something get 345 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: get a tax return, they go out there and then 346 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: and that nigga, just as thorough as you are, Like, uh, now, 347 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: we got issues, but it was such a normal occurrences. 348 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: I remember that there was a documentary in the Knights 349 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: called Banging in Little Rock. Could not wrap my main 350 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: or my mind around Little Rock, Arkansas having gangs until 351 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: at a full grown adult, I was like, oh yeah, 352 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: we exported it. We would get sent off. And then 353 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: they didn't fall off the face of the earth. They 354 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: lived there and started hoods. 355 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 2: I don't know why I ever thought about that. 356 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: That's what happened else Aalvador. They went out there and 357 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: they got active. And when they got active, you have 358 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: to remember they got active without any constraints of any cribs, bloods, 359 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: or any other or any other cholos. May eighteen Street. 360 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: Nobody was over there. Florence thirteen, Nobody was there. It 361 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: was they world and they world. 362 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 2: It was good. God. They went out there sot checking 363 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 2: foods left and right. And here's the thing. I'm not 364 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,239 Speaker 2: even going saying what a sock check is? 365 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: Sock check on me because if you know, you know 366 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: thusave I know how counterintuitive this sounds, but in some ways, 367 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: when there's no system of checks and balances, even among 368 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: gang life, you think the violence happens, of course because 369 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: of like rivalries and stuff like that. But if there's 370 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: no system and you can just run the thing, then 371 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: the lick becomes just the people like you're just the 372 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: citizens because there's no time the gang wars evolved because 373 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: somebody is gonna be like, well, I don't have to 374 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: just listen to you, nigga, I live over here. It 375 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: can make this my neighborhood, right, somebody else get deported 376 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: from five years later and they start their own set. 377 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: But before that, it's like the people that live there 378 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: become your playing field and they're not inoculated. 379 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: They don't have the germs. 380 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: They don't have the germs, they don't have the white 381 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: blood cells to be able to inoculate themselves to defend 382 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: themselves in any way, because that's this isn't what they're 383 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: This isn't the types of diseases they're used to. 384 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 2: This gang shit. 385 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: The gang shit in El Salvador was born in Los Angeles. 386 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: Like it's not, it's not local grown. It was born 387 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 2: in La. 388 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: So it's not they're not used to they don't have 389 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: you don't have the immune system for that. So the 390 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: influols was running them streets, I mean running them like 391 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: I mean you put La Chicago, Atlanta just wrap it 392 00:22:59,200 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: all in one. 393 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 2: Was run in them streets. It was bro because milk 394 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 2: we myly. 395 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: Just like bad. Now, it's funny me doing this because 396 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: I'm using all like mexicanslag it was just like I mean, 397 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: you called me on it, of course, but like bro, 398 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: it was through child's like I thought you wouln't believe 399 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: what they saw anyway, it was bad. I can relate 400 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: to the feelings of feeling like you're this is an 401 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: open air prison, like you're you're held hostage in your 402 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: own neighborhood. I can personally relate to that, like rules 403 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: were very clear. There's parts of neighborhoo that you just 404 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: don't go to. It's grocery stores, directions walking home like 405 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: you have to walk home a whole other route. There's 406 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: family members you can't go visit because it's like you 407 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: ain't allowed in that hood. Man, y'all think I'm exaggerating, 408 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: Like man, I need to bring somebody else on this show, 409 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: like who lived through this that can avouch for what 410 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: I'm telling you. 411 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 2: When I tell you you could not go to certain areas, 412 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: it's like you you could not go. It's what do 413 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: you mean you can't go? It's a free country. I'm 414 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: allowed to go. Okay, try it. Go ahead, drive over there. 415 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: See what happens. 416 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: I personally had family that lived in Compton that I 417 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: didn't visit until they left Compton, and it we weren't 418 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: allowed over there. And now Salvador is living through this 419 00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: until this young gen z Cuspo millennial comes and starts 420 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: socks checking foods. All right, all right, now we're gonna 421 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: get to the meat of this after this break. 422 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 2: All right, we're back. 423 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: Sock jack, homie, the higher the sides, the down there, 424 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: the food A brad lame, big Jack LEVI never snitch 425 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 1: on your homies and respect your head. 426 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 2: I keep it through chin all right anyway, all right, dog, So. 427 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: This gen z cusp for millennial naimbu Gele, upper middle 428 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: class dude, Palestinian immigrant moves over to a Salvador with 429 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: his family, gets his start around thirty years old. 430 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 2: And he was a publicist. 431 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: Right, so you're talking about a dude gets on the camera, 432 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: hat to the back, young understands social media, knows how 433 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: to talk that talk, understands TikTok. 434 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: Like just next generation. 435 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: The guy for now decides to get into politics, becomes 436 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: the mayor of a small town you know on the outskirts. 437 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: Eventually becomes the mayor of the capital city, San Salvador, 438 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: and then runs for president in twenty eighteen. And when 439 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: he runs for president, you gotta remember again he a 440 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: young buck. You got this like the literal. 441 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: Opposite problem of what we got in America. 442 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: What John Stewart say Man needs to have set the 443 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: record for being the oldest two people that ever run 444 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: for president, only breaking the record by four years set 445 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: by them four years ago. Just didn't gay the opposite. 446 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: Young buck, right, new blood understands the world. You know. 447 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: He was educated in a bilingual school, so he come 448 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: from like I said, like not poverty, not well, just 449 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: middle class, upper middle class educated, you know. And he 450 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: real slick and he runs being like nigga, I'm different, 451 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: I'm stop checking foods. I'm tired of this shit, okay. 452 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: And this is when the story becomes super familiar. Y'all 453 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: don't know about the New York street sweepers, and for Cali, 454 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: the gang injunctions, and the gang injunctions kind of work 455 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: like this, like you get if if it was if 456 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: you was black and brown, you were standing on a 457 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: corner and it was molding more than one of y'all, 458 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: it's a gang. If y'all had matching shoes, matching whatever 459 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: it is. You're in a gang according to the law. 460 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: So they would run up on you, and you know, 461 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: it would move from like loitering again to gang activity 462 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: because what was happening was so intense in la like 463 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: the police, as corrupt as they might have been, or 464 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: as desperate as the community might have been. If you 465 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: got swept if you got swept up, you got swept up, 466 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: they didn't ask questions, they didn't look. If it was 467 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: two of y'all, it's a gang. You could be like, dude, 468 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: we're nerdy as hell. Y'all a gang if if they 469 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: if they if they recognized a jersey, a street, a 470 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: jersey you were wearing, Like if you just happen to 471 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: be wearing a Dolphins jersey. All, that's Third Street, you all, 472 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, or that's twelfth Street, like you down there, 473 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: you down there in Pomona, like you, you know what 474 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you was with them, you feel me 475 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: like you They no matter what a tattoo, a street name, 476 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: whatever it is, if it was something that they could 477 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: recognize as a gang thing, no questions asked. You getting 478 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: swept up, you going into the paddy wagon. Right, it 479 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: was a gang injunctions, right, you would get a gang uptick. 480 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: Like for example, if let's just say you know you 481 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: you you know you did breaking an entering, just some 482 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: sort of like or some sort of petty crime like 483 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: your grand theft aught or whatever the case may be. 484 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: Right, you was just joy writing. 485 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: If they could tie you to a known gang, that 486 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: crime would get what's called a gang uptick, meaning it's 487 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: an extra five or it or the act becomes a felony. 488 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: A misdemeanor can become a felony because of the gang uptick. Right. 489 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 2: A lot of times what would happen. 490 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: Is kids would just be regular ask kids, you know 491 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Maybe maybe admitting you know, petty crimes 492 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: here and there, just trying to be cool with the homies. 493 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: You go to jail, you go to juvie, and you 494 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: joined a gang in juvie. Right, So it created a 495 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: bigger problem, you understand what I'm saying. In New York, 496 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: they would have a street sweepers. Again, like if you 497 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: was just if you were standing outside and it was 498 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: more than y'all everybody getting swept up. I'm not asking 499 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: no questions. Where we are cleaning up our streets. Now, 500 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: that was us as black and brown boys being the 501 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: being the victims of this. On the other hand, we 502 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: were also victims of the violence. I said it, I 503 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: said it so many times, and I'm gonna say it 504 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: again in this In this episode, I cannot stress enough 505 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: how wild the streets were, the like we were held hostage. 506 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: Like in a lot of ways, I could say we 507 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: were both. I said it on the song Gentrify, on 508 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: my own record, we were both guilty and victims, like 509 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: because the the roving hordes of violent youth that was 510 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: holding us hostage were us. They were our friends, those 511 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: were our cousins, and and part of it was because 512 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: you needed protection from the other roving violent hordes of dude, 513 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like it was us. 514 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 2: It's complicated. 515 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: So the old ladies who can't go to their neighborhood 516 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: liquor store, you understand what I'm saying. The people that 517 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: was causing that problem was they sons, was they grandchildren 518 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: or they friends' grandchildren. 519 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 2: So if you came home, you was just like Meho, 520 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 2: I can't even go to the store. No more fools 521 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: will be like you. Somebody tell you. 522 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: Somebody tell yo, y'all, Well, like yo, grandma telling you 523 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: she getting sweated at the store. Oh, nigga is up, 524 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: You're not funa sweat my Oh. So it's like we 525 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: were you we were held hostage. You don't go to 526 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: the police because they just another gang. Like I said, 527 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: they sweeping us up and throwing us into jail. 528 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 2: Ain't not asking questions. 529 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: Well, Gailey ran on this idea that like El Salvador, 530 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: you're you're under and in a lot of ways, it's true, 531 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: you're under an occupation. The occupation is just these fiftas 532 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: of gangs. Y'all, y'all under occupation. He like, I'm gonna 533 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: clean this shit up. I'm not asking questions. 534 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 2: You can't. You can't. 535 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: You can't play games with these people. You have to 536 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: demoralize them. And as the people of El Salvador, they like, 537 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm tired of this shit. You right, like, we're tired 538 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: of this. This man know how to talk. He young, 539 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: did sexy and he talked that talk. He like, look, 540 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of y'all gangsters. I'm gangster too, Nigga like, 541 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: I'm I'm with the shits. You need to hire somebody 542 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: you need to elect, somebody that's with the shits, and 543 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: with the shits he was, and within two years this 544 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: man absolutely decimated. I'm talking about the fact that, like 545 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: you know, how like we talkalk about like the Mob 546 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: and the Sopranos and shit like that, how it's like 547 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: this is nothing like it used to be. Of course 548 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: it exists in of course the mob exists, but not 549 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: like it did. The mob got decimated. Like while I'm 550 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: talking that, he absolutely destroyed the El Salvador and a 551 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: lot of times look on once. This is why this 552 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: is a hood politics episode, because on one side of this, 553 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: on one side of the corner, you're like, good, nigga, 554 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: we're free. Man. 555 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 2: Fuck y'all. 556 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: Out here extorting our grandma's like killing your own people, 557 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: dividing this city up. Man, we held a hostage, like nah, man, 558 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: I got no love for y'all. You know what I'm saying, 559 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: Like you could, like you can you pointing out people 560 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: like I done, lost friends, family, cousins, sisters, brothers. You 561 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: understand I'm saying, like I'm trying to open a stupid 562 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: little pin, Nadia, right, you understand what I'm saying. You 563 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: taking sixty percent of my like, nah, I got no, 564 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: it's no love lost. He would he would have had 565 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:08,240 Speaker 1: in boys like look like dehumanizing them and the attitude 566 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: is what they dehumanized us. 567 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 2: You have them, have them lined up in the in 568 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 2: the jail and they draws tied up one by one, 569 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 2: being like, look now now, who the g now? Who 570 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 2: the dawn? You laying out here in your draws? You're 571 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 2: trying to like, Nah, fam, we not playing this shit 572 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 2: no more. 573 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: Y'all are done. Fuck you and what you're going through. 574 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Fuck your dad homies, Like 575 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: I don't give a shit about none of y'all. 576 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 2: You didn't y'all, y'all been terrorizing us too long. I'm done. 577 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: And on one hand, it's like Nigga finally right in 578 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: some senses, like look, I'm a slap of Nazi. I'm 579 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: a slap of Nazi in the face type dude, Like, 580 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: I get it. Sometimes you gotta shut this shit down, 581 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: you feel me. And the only way to talk to 582 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 1: somebody that's violent is with violence. 583 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 2: I get it. I'm not a pacifist. And how do 584 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 2: you respond to people that got no code? You? 585 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: Like, are you worried? About the moral high ground, Like 586 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: is that really what we're worried about. It's like niggas 587 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: is dying in the streets this like this is I'm 588 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: tired of this shit. Y'all killing each other and we're 589 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: all and we're dying too. Like it'd be one thing 590 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: if it was just y'all shooting at each other. 591 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 2: But even if it's y'all, y'all is us. 592 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: You are, these are our sons, these are our daughters, 593 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: yourself saying so like there's no separation between. 594 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 2: Them and us. They are us. 595 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: But this shit needs to stop, bro, And he was like, 596 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: give me two years, and he did it. Now, on 597 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: the other hand, the question is about how. And again 598 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: this is why I relate to it. He was dudes 599 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: would get wrapped up with no due and like with 600 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: the you couldn't whether you was involved affiliated or not. 601 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: They're like, we'll sort them out later. So it's stories 602 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: all over El Salvador of people being like I haven't 603 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: seen my nephew ever since the cops picked them up. 604 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: They just make up charges and they hold them without 605 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: due process. They're not telling them what's going on. And 606 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: and if you just get caught up, you get caught up. 607 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 1: Whether you have an affiliation or not, it don't matter. 608 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: They're like, we'll figure it out later when you're cleaning 609 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 1: the streets with the power with the super soaker, you 610 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like they're just getting the biggest 611 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: net possible and and just swooping everybody out of the 612 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: streets and being like, look, it's clean, and if you 613 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: get caught up, you get caught up. He has not 614 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: shown any concern in whether somebody gets accidentally swooped up 615 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: into this or not. You shouldn't have been over there, 616 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: that's the attitude. You shouldn't have been outside. And even 617 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: if you not involved, I know you know somebody that's involved, 618 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: your brother involved, your cousin involved. It's impossible. It's like, 619 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: and that is another thing that I get. If you 620 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: swept me up. I don't gang bang at all. I'm 621 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 1: not affiliated all. Matter of fact, I'm running from these niggas. 622 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: But if you swept me up and ask me if 623 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 1: I know activity, I'm like, well, absolutely, of course I do. Listen, 624 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: this is these were the rules. If you get swept up, 625 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 1: let's just say you get involved. You know, they got 626 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 1: your little tattoos on file. Because that's what they do 627 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: to take pictures of your tattoos. They see you got 628 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 1: a tattoo that matches some other stuff. Now you involved 629 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,879 Speaker 1: in that hood. Right, Let's just say you get out 630 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: on probation or you out on parole. Part of the 631 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 1: rules for your probation or your parole is you cannot 632 00:37:54,440 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: associate with any known gang activity, any known gang of afiliates. 633 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 2: The problem is you're sending me back to my house 634 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 2: and you're like, well, it's my father. 635 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: Is known gang, my my physical brother, like my first cousin, 636 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: my auntie, Like I live at the kickback. So even 637 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: if I'm trying to like this just where I live, 638 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: I like, even if I all want to be a 639 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: part of this, like this is just where I live. 640 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what I'm supposed to say. 641 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: If the pop Post see you, they let's say they 642 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: run a raid or they pull somebody over whatever in 643 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: your neighborhood. 644 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 2: They see you over there, you done broke your probation rules. 645 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:42,919 Speaker 2: Now you're going back. 646 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 1: It's people in El Salvador that feel like, we don't 647 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: know if this solution is worth to squeeze the juice 648 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: is worth to squeeze. It's like, you have a rodent 649 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: problem and the solution that the exterminator brings is a bomb. 650 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: He's like, well, clear, clear, I killed all the rodents. 651 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: And it's like, but you you blew up the house. 652 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: Well all my plants are dead too, and so is 653 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 1: our pet. Like you. 654 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 2: Like, but the rodents are gone. What do you say 655 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 2: to that? Well? 656 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: You know what else out of doors said is it's 657 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: the cost of play because they re elected him. And 658 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: when you do people a favor like that, especially if 659 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: you're not afraid of taking the blowbacks. It's like I said, 660 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 1: it's family members that still ain't seen They family members. 661 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: It's been three years. They just swooped them up and 662 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: they're like you he in jail now, no no court case, 663 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: no charge. It's just you a part of the gangs, 664 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: like nigga. No I'm not, Yes, you are. 665 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 2: That. There's cases like that all over O Salvador. 666 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: So then the people, the people believe in you, and 667 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: and what do you do this for you? I did 668 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 1: this for the said, I did it for the hood. 669 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: I did it for Al Salvador. You can declare a 670 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 1: sort of martial law in a way that says you 671 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 1: want me to clean these streets up. You gotta let 672 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: me not worry about y'all's human and individual rights right now. 673 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: And some of the pushback with this bro is like, 674 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: that's a that's a creep towards fascism because you're getting 675 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: the job done for for the fatherland. 676 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 2: At all costs. And what you're gonna what y'all gonna say, 677 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 2: I cleaned your streets up? You wanna go back? 678 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 1: You ain't like my ways, that my ways worked, And 679 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: I mean, why would you say anything to him if 680 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: you know that you can get caught up in his dragnet? 681 00:40:58,680 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 2: And that's it. 682 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: I mean, that was the lapd for us. Look, you 683 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: get caught up, you got If you get caught up, 684 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 1: you get caught up. 685 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 2: You know. 686 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: And of course we fought back against police brutality and 687 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But granted, this isn't Los Angeles, is 688 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 1: not the nation of El Salvador. It's not necessarily one 689 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,399 Speaker 1: to one. But what I'm saying is I understand the complications. 690 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 2: I have no love for for the beasts, of course, 691 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 2: but I will tell you this. I currently live in 692 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 2: a part of town I wasn't allowed to even visit 693 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 2: that's kind of nice, so we'll see either way, Gayle said. 694 00:41:55,200 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: Jeflevi Los Politicos all Man, All right, now, don't you 695 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: hit stop on this pod. You better listen to these credits. 696 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 1: I need you to finish this thing so I can 697 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: get the download numbers. Okay, so don't stop it yet, 698 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: but listen. 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