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Speaker 2: We're back back from the bye week. Hello everybody, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. One Bills Live is your program

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Speaker 2: of choice. Thanks for making that decision. Three hour edition here,

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Speaker 2: as we do every Monday, season's greetings, as our crack

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Speaker 2: staff has decorated the studio expertly for the holidays. Look

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Speaker 2: at this, we're twinkling Steve. All right, MSG viewers, we're

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Speaker 2: like cutting edge here. This is not well, that might

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Speaker 2: be a little strong, but yeah, the reef still looks

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Speaker 2: crooked to me. Well, we we worked on that for

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Speaker 2: some time. I'm gonna shoot, but you know what, in

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Speaker 2: the next break, we're all I don't know if all

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Speaker 2: of us are on our level. We begin with.

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Speaker 3: We had Brownie and I get back together this morning

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Speaker 3: after a long extended weekend. We were off Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

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Speaker 3: We get back today, of course, and it's noon, noon

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Speaker 2: How is my weekend?

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Speaker 3: We had vastly different weekends. So Brownie comes in, He had,

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Speaker 3: pouring rainstorm and you right.

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Speaker 2: It rained two of the four days I was there

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Speaker 3: Brownie was just a just a bitter camper in New York.

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Speaker 3: So Brownie comes back. He's bitter about his trip to

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Speaker 2: The weather was terrible, you know, so here I am.

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Speaker 2: My poor wife was under the weather for a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I too, was out in the rain for a couple

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Speaker 3: So we went this time because it was the Bills

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Speaker 3: The Gandolf says, but it's the deep breath before the plunge.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's the deep breath before the plunge.

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Speaker 2: the NFL first, which is brought to you, as you know,

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Speaker 2: by Kalida Health, the official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 2: And the good news Steve is the Bills got a

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Speaker 2: little help in the AFC conference based on some results.

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Speaker 2: outside of whoever the Bills may or may not be playing. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: Jets lost again, just wrapping up the AFC East here

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Speaker 2: It's interesting that you say that, Steve, because the reports

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Dolphins man handled the Commanders forty five fifteen in Washington.

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Speaker 3: You got it. You got to win those games. Those

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Speaker 2: Uh so, yeah, I don't know. I wasn't terribly impressed

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Speaker 2: you love that JFK airport, Steve. I'm telling you I

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Speaker 2: My flight is the earlier flight back to Buffalo. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So the guy says to me, he goes, there's eleven

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Speaker 3: So anyway, but we're back and we're looking forward this

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Speaker 3: weekend of games, which obviously have to I had to

435
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Speaker 3: catch up on as we as we kind of went along,

436
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Speaker 3: and I heard this on the radio and then on

437
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Speaker 3: social media it was mentioned as well, all right, I'm listening.

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Speaker 3: So I'm sitting there, and apparently in the San Francisco

439
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Speaker 3: Philadelphia game, dude comes off the sidelines in the Philly

440
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Speaker 3: on the Philly sidelines and starts the security guy.

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Speaker 2: He's like, Nick Sirianni's protecting personal protecting.

442
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Speaker 3: And he comes on as if Nick Sirianni is in this,

443
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Speaker 3: and I'm thinking, I'm picturing this thing like a holy

444
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Speaker 3: what happened?

445
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Speaker 4: Man?

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00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 2: Yeah? And I didn't see it.

447
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Speaker 3: It was It's nothing. And certainly you know it was

448
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 3: like Greenace wise Yeah, green Law yeah, get you know,

449
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 3: just gives the guy some like looks like he's giving

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Speaker 3: him smelling salts and stuff. So that is this big different.

451
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Speaker 3: I'm thinking this was like a melee and I'm like,

452
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Speaker 3: come on, man, I just paint the picture for me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was not Greenlaw. I got tossed law, I

454
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 2: got tossed the security the security guy. That's a win

455
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: for the Eagles, right, yeah, see to me and have

456
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Speaker 2: our security guy on this line.

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Speaker 3: All right, So your Commissioner Chris Brown of the NFL.

458
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Speaker 3: Congratulations on the promotion. You're twenty five million dollar salary.

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Speaker 3: What do you do with this guy Dom, whatever his

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Speaker 3: name is. You don't you have to call the Eagles

461
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 3: and say, hey, I'm pretty sure Dom is not going

462
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Speaker 3: to be on the sidelines anymore, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I because that I think I would first ask

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00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: what is his game day function? Well, he's he's everybody

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Speaker 2: has one. But I was pretty straightforward.

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Speaker 3: There's a guy that next he leaves the coach alone,

467
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 3: but he comes out with a coach stands nearby on

468
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 3: the in the bench area, has full access to the

469
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 3: bench area, and then the area. Then at the end

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Speaker 3: of the game, right on the sideline.

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Speaker 2: Dude, that's what I'm saying, Well, bench area, sideline. Anyways,

472
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Speaker 2: he really needs to be right up there on the sideline.

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Speaker 3: Close to the end of the game. They kind of

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Speaker 3: snuggle up to the coach, you know, before into the

475
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Speaker 3: half end of the game, and then they escort him off.

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Speaker 3: That's it. Then they're like unseen, unheard. So I'm this guy,

477
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 3: I'm it's your if I'm a commissioner, this come. This

478
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 3: comes down really hard on that guy, you think, so

479
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 3: you you through this, got a guy on their team,

480
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Speaker 3: he Jack. What if he gets like Pat Mahomes comes

481
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Speaker 3: up and slaps him. Pat Mahomes out of the game.

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Speaker 3: You're and you lose Mack Kettle off the sidelines. You

483
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 3: lose Phyllis. Let me just another another. You lose Phyllis.

484
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 3: Your team loses Phyllis Diller and they lose this universe, Right,

485
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 3: you move, You lose like Roseanne, they lose Roseanne. Your

486
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 3: team loses Roseanne bar and you know you lose. They lose.

487
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 3: You know they lose Angelina Jolie. Right, it's no comparison

488
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 3: who they lose. You lose like four and they lose

489
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 3: like George Costanza. That's the idea. You can't you can't

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00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 3: let that go. That guy's got to be persona on

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Speaker 3: Grada forever.

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Speaker 2: I think you got to get to the bottom of

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Speaker 2: who instigated that.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't to me that's irrelevant. Oh that is irrelevant.

495
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Speaker 3: I don't care how.

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Speaker 2: Who laws talking trash and then does the face wash

497
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 2: first it looked like he reached out first.

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Speaker 3: That guy. This guy stepped in Greenlaw and the guy

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Speaker 3: step out of the on the sidelines, right, little little

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Speaker 3: little play at the halftime, guy gets thrown out, throw

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Speaker 3: him out of bounds. And then the guy he starts,

502
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Speaker 3: he starts right in. He's stepping in. He's got no business,

503
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Speaker 3: he can't do no business doing that. He's got no

504
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 3: business doing that. And that's that's where the problem is.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't get to he doesn't he's he's yeah, that's

506
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 3: a no, no, absolute no, no no. And that to

507
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 3: me is his last time. He should be on the sidelinelf.

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Speaker 3: And that's just the way it goes. I mean, that

509
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 3: was that was not an egregious play. And the security

510
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 3: guy steps right in and starts talking, talking to the

511
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Speaker 3: forty nine er guy like a fan. You cannot be

512
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Speaker 3: fanboy on the sidelines. That's that's to me, is the

513
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 3: final thing. You can't do it. You can't do it.

514
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 3: And Greenlaw reaches out and says, hey, what are you

515
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 3: doing here? Like he knows the guy's a bum, and

516
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: not that the guy's a bum. He's probably great at

517
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Speaker 3: his job, and everybody probably loves the guy, probably part

518
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 3: of the family over there. I get it, but that's it, man,

519
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 3: he's got to go away. If I'm if Chris Brown, Commissioner,

520
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 3: Chris Brown, I put it to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I think he can't be that

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00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: close to the game field and he can't be inserting

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Speaker 2: himself in the game.

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Speaker 3: That's I don't care how close he is. He can't

525
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 3: step in on any altercation at all, period, end of sentence.

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Speaker 3: That's a no.

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Speaker 2: No.

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00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 3: That's players, officials and full members maybe and head coaches.

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00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 3: That's it. That's it's a fine, it's an I know.

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00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 3: That's why the league has always been extremely, extremely sensitive

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Speaker 3: to who is on the NFL sideline. And some games

532
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 3: you see it there's a ton of people there. I

533
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 3: get it and all of that stuff, But this is why.

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00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I used to get called in. Guys would

535
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 3: come up and say, hey, what what are you doing.

536
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 3: I said, well, I'm sidelines for Westwood one or I'm whatever.

537
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 3: They there's people up there with Binnox observers who look

538
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 3: at every single individual on the sidelines of an NFL

539
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 3: game and they say, hey, he's got to leave. Hey,

540
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: that guy he's out his what's his security? What's his

541
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 3: he's out. They throw people off there all the time,

542
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 3: because you know, everybody wants to go down on the

543
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 3: sidelines and watch a game. They don't let it happen,

544
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 3: and so this instant and I thought it sounded on

545
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 3: the radio like man, oh man. I thought I thought

546
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 3: it was gonna be awesome.

547
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: To see you.

548
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, that's no fun. I wanted

549
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 3: some you know, I wanted some fisticuffs, you know. And

550
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 3: so now this guy Dom is you know.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, if the Eagles won the game, that

552
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: guy would have been a cult hero for fifteen minutes,

553
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: would he not? If they won the game. That's if

554
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: they win that game. Everybody's talking about Dom the security

555
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: guy the next day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll say this, Greenlaw didn't really swing at him.

557
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 3: He stuck his fingers up in the guy's nose, like

558
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 3: smelling salts. That's kind of a thing, right, like a

559
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 3: and he got a fit. He got ejected for it,

560
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 3: and I thought it's I didn't think that was egregious.

561
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 3: But this guy, the big dude, Dom, I'm sorry, bro,

562
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 3: you don't do that. You're not welcome to that party.

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00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 4: You know.

564
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 3: He got a player ejected on the other team because

565
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 3: he stepped in.

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00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: Right, I realized the league's not happy. And it was

567
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: a pretty stoke.

568
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 3: Though, And it was a bad call to begin with

569
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 3: that see, you gotta send a clear message.

570
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: Be interesting, tell me what the league decides this week.

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00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 3: For sure, that guy will never be on the sidelines

572
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 3: for the Philadelphia Eagles again ever period.

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00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 2: If he's down there, you're getting an he can't.

574
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 3: He can work for the team, but he's not a

575
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: sideline employee anymore on game day and I'll say, that's

576
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: got to happen. That's gotta happen. I mean, you can't

577
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 3: let some jamoke.

578
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: Well, I'm thinking because then you hire a guy to

579
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: do it. Well, I was thinking like suspension, but yeah,

580
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: the president has been set and you can't have it again.

581
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: You Yeah, as a league, Yeah, that's dug it.

582
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 3: You know I'm not gonna if you got you hire

583
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 3: that could be for the four bottom guys on your

584
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,239
Speaker 3: assistant coaching thing. That's all they do is instigate, try

585
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 3: and get somebody swing on them. Let's get this guy,

586
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 3: this guy and focus on focus on fifteen of Kansas City.

587
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 3: See if you can instigate with him. Start in the pregame,

588
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 3: Start chirping at him in the pregame.

589
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: Seriously, you're hey, trash talker one, talk to trash talker too.

590
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: See what you guys can do as a tag team

591
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: to get see.

592
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 3: If you can get him, Just get him and make

593
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 3: sure one of you when he's about to swing on you,

594
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 3: the other one hollers at the fisher, Hey, reff. So

595
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 3: the riff swings his eyes towards you and catches it

596
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Speaker 3: right as he's throwing.

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Speaker 2: It's it's I like the orchestration you're coming up with here, Steve.

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00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: It's pretty impressive.

599
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 3: They've got an entire language for this stuff. For calling

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00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 3: plays and stuff. They would have the same kind we

601
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 3: got which for getting a guy tossed.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you we got to take a break here,

603
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Speaker 6: Joe, Hey, Chris and Steve, thanks for taking my call. Sure,

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00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 6: well I was waiting for you guys. One thing that

626
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Speaker 6: crept up the Buffalo Bills bruces. The Charger game is

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Speaker 6: supposed to be televised on peacack. Is that going to

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Speaker 6: be televised locally?

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Speaker 2: Do you know if you're in the Buffalo area? Yes,

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Speaker 2: by rule, it has to be televised on a local

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Speaker 2: network for the home team market.

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Speaker 6: Well that's good. That's good.

633
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 6: What I wanted to ask Steve real quick, was this

635
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Speaker 6: quarterback sneak that philled up your runs. They call it

636
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 6: the tush push. Where are they so successful? Easy for

637
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 6: me to say, and other teams, you know, they don't

638
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 6: seem to be as successful. Is it because of the

639
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 6: offensive line? Is that massive? For Philadelphia?

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Speaker 3: It's they run it really well. They've got some stuff

641
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 3: they do. They've probably got some things they think are secret,

642
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 3: you know, things like probably the most one that's most

643
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 3: important to me in my eyes is probably a snap count.

644
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 3: They all go at the same time. So whatever the

645
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 3: center is doing or the quarterback is doing, the signal

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Speaker 3: that is given to snap the ball is nonverbal, silent,

647
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,479
Speaker 3: but there's something going on where they can get off

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Speaker 3: all at once, all at once at the same time,

649
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 3: you know, and get the jump on the defense. I

650
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 3: will say this, it doesn't really I don't think it's

651
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 3: an illegal play or they should outlawed or anything like that,

652
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 3: because there's a lot of show arp minds in the

653
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 3: NFL who will attack it and and formulate a plan

654
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 3: against it. Certainly, and when they start changing guys out,

655
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 3: when their offensive line gets a little less and they start,

656
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 3: you know, when they start being not successful with it.

657
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 2: It'll go away. It'll do something else.

658
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of sharp minds looking to find

659
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 3: a way to get you know, to defend it. And

660
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 3: they will and they will. It's gonna take some time though,

661
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 3: It's it's like any other play that it seems like

662
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 3: a trick play or an unfair advantage. But it'll circle back.

663
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 3: I'm fully confident the people that play defense in this

664
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 3: lead to come up with a way.

665
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: They figured out things like the wildcat and other stuff,

666
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 2: and yeah, this is just the latest iteration of something

667
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: that needs solving, and right it'll undoubtedly come up with

668
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: a suitable solution. Let's go to Keith in Holland next.

669
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:51,479
Speaker 2: What do you got for us, Keith?

670
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 4: Well, I went to school in the Adirondecks and I'm

671
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 4: just curious as to where Steve Ghost Campy and Thedecks

672
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,439
Speaker 4: a pretty big park.

673
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we go. We go a different place every year.

674
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 3: We've been to Echo Lake, Puffer Pond, Faroh Lake, Indian Head.

675
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 4: I went to school up in Paul Smiths years ago.

676
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, we it's somewhere around you know. It's we're a speculator.

677
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 3: A little bit of old forge in there.

678
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 2: We were in.

679
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:26,959
Speaker 3: We stayed the night before we went in, we stayed

680
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 3: in North Creek.

681
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: That kind of thing.

682
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 4: I see one. I'm glad you had a good time.

683
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 4: I'm glad you're joining the Aerondicks. There's I'll have to

684
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 4: enjoy that.

685
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's great. We I had a better weekend

686
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 3: in the wilderness in the rain than Brownie did in

687
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 3: New York City in the rain. So there you go.

688
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, walking around with an umbrella, a small umbrella wasn't

689
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: as effective as I had hoped. You were out there

690
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: and ponchos and rain gear. We were out Yeah, you

691
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: were in it by choice. Let's go by choice, and

692
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 2: that will never be my choice. But especially in the

693
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: you want to get me up there in the summer,

694
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 2: I'll do that. Get me on a boat. I'll be

695
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 2: fishing as long as you want me to. But yeah,

696
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: I am getting a fully covered structure. You know I'm not.

697
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: Especially in the winter. Man, I cannot stand being cold.

698
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 2: It's better and wet.

699
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 3: It's better for us when we're out there. It's better

700
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 3: for us if it's like twenty six right, snow thirty eight.

701
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I would take the rain any day.

702
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 3: The weather on our end of it couldn't have been

703
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 3: worse unless it was raining harder than it was. Yeah,

704
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 3: but we had Yeah, we we had a blast.

705
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: That's all I can say. Let's go to John in

706
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 2: Massachusetts next. What do you got first? John?

707
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Speaker 7: Hey, how are you guys doing today?

708
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: We're hanging in there, man.

709
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 7: Good good half day, closer to the weekend, so pretty

710
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 7: good over here. I just wanted, well, I wanted to

711
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 7: answer your question about how are we feeling about the Chiefs.

712
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 7: I kind of think, you know, they're going to come out,

713
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 7: They're going to come out hot. Know they're gonna come

714
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 7: out swing in. They just come off the lost game

715
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 7: back at Arrowhead trime time four thirty, so I'm expecting

716
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 7: first half, you know, kind of everything they have. But

717
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 7: I think the Bills prevail. I think we're a I

718
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 7: think we're one of the best teams in the league,

719
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 7: even though we're six and six, and I think second

720
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 7: half we kind of take the game over and impose

721
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 7: our will on them. I don't think it's going to

722
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 7: be easy by any stretch of the imagination, but get

723
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 7: past this one and get on the right track to

724
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 7: hopefully playoffs. And I just my main point though, was

725
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 7: I just was watching these games yesterday, and I'm like,

726
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 7: some of these teams are just not good. They're just

727
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 7: like the Bills are just so much The Bills are

728
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 7: so much better than every single wildcard team there.

729
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 4: Is right now.

730
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 7: And I'm not afraid to play anybody in the AFC.

731
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 7: I give me the Chief road, give me the Ravens

732
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 7: on the road, give me the Fins on the road,

733
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Speaker 7: if the Bills can. The only team that I'm afraid

734
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 7: of the Bills beating is themselves said it since twenty nineteen.

735
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 7: I think the Bills are great team. They just got

736
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 7: to come and if they can give us the effort

737
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 7: that they I mean, obviously we lost against the Eagles,

738
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 7: but give us that offensive effort, give us the effort

739
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 7: like we had against the Jets or early in the season.

740
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 7: We all know the team that they can be. Be

741
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 7: that and I can't see anybody beating us.

742
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Speaker 3: So well, yeah, thanks John, Thank appreciate it. And I

743
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 3: would agree with all of what you said they I

744
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 3: would put them ahead of all those teams in the

745
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 3: Wildcard and even some of the division leaders, no question,

746
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 3: But you got to win.

747
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 2: Games to do that.

748
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 3: You can't you can't lose one score game's time every

749
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 3: other week and expect to be in that mix. You've

750
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 3: got to prove that you're a better team. And I

751
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: agree with you. I think the Bills have got it

752
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 3: in there somewhere to be the best team in the league,

753
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 3: bar none. But they got to do it. They got

754
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 3: to play like that. And they can't have ten penalties

755
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 3: in the first half and they can't turn the football over.

756
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 3: They can't, you know, give up the lead in the

757
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 3: last minute and a half of the game to the

758
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 3: other team to lose. And you've got to put your

759
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 3: foot on the gas, you know, when there is twenty

760
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 3: seconds left in the first half and you got in

761
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 3: the game and you got a quarterback like Josh, you

762
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 3: got to give them a chance. You can't not hit

763
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 3: on every opportunity, or at least take a swing at

764
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 3: every opportunity and expect to be put in the same

765
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 3: conversation with you know, with the Chiefs, baltim with Baltimore,

766
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 3: with you name it, with Kansas City, Jacksonville, Miami, even Pittsburgh,

767
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 3: Cleveland and Indianapolis teams who the Bills would in my opinion,

768
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 3: eight or nine times out of ten, wipe the floor with.

769
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 3: But you got to do it.

770
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't keep saying you're one of the best

771
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: teams in the conference when you're at six and six

772
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: and you haven't won back to back game since Week four, Right,

773
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 2: it's hard to justify that and it's hard to support that. Now,

774
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 2: everybody out there does that because your Bills fans and

775
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: I get it, and you got to stick with your

776
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: team through thick and thin. That's what loyalty is, especially

777
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: for a fan base. But as Steve said, you gotta

778
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: do it, and you're out of time.

779
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 3: To wait to do it.

780
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 2: It's got to happen now because you're out of wiggle room.

781
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 2: You're out of any margin forever. So it's got to

782
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: happen now, and hopefully it happens at Arrowhead on Sunday, which,

783
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: as we all know, is easier said than done. Bills

784
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 2: have done it before, but it's easier said than done,

785
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 2: especially against an angry Chiefs team coming off a loss.

786
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: Got to take a break here. More of your phone

787
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 2: calls when we come back. Will lead off with Mark

788
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 2: and West Seneca when we return here on one Bill's

789
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795
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: eight five point fifty two five fifty the number to

796
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Speaker 2: get on board. As we are asking you today, what

797
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: kind of Chiefs team are you expecting for the Bills

798
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 2: on Sunday? After their eight point loss at the hands

799
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: of the Green Bay Packers at lambeau Field on Sunday

800
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 2: Night Football twenty seven to nineteen was the final And

801
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 2: I gotta say the thing that impressed me the most

802
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 2: about the Packers was the way in which they were

803
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 2: able to stay a step ahead of Steve Spagnolo and

804
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: that Chief's defense. Now, part of it might have been

805
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: because they lost their starting middle linebacker a series and

806
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: a half into the game. That might be part one.

807
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 2: So now you're now the person with whom you're communicating

808
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: on defense as the coordinator is no longer there that

809
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: you set up the whole game plan for all week,

810
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 2: So maybe that had a played a role in it.

811
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: Hard to say absolutely.

812
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 3: It's like the Bills going without Milano and.

813
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: David Lafleur, the head coach of the Packers. I mean,

814
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: he had an answer for just about everything, and for

815
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: the most part, Jordan Love was miss Mike. Oh it

816
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 2: is no I think it? Is it Dave or is

817
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: it Mike? I always mix up the two brothers. Matt,

818
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 2: I'm both, I'm wrong on both.

819
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 3: It's Matt.

820
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 2: You knew I was wrong, but you didn't get the

821
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: right answer either. I can, I can. I know we

822
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 2: are terrible with that. My apologies to Matt Lafleur. Matt Lafleur,

823
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 2: I didn't guess. Of course it.

824
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 3: Is so I knew it was here.

825
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 2: I am trying to pay him a compliment. I can't

826
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 2: even get his name.

827
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 3: I knew it was not Dave.

828
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, now whatever, what are you gonna do? Or did

829
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: I say, Mike? You know what I said? You said Mike? Okay,

830
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 2: Well we're both wrong.

831
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 8: Yes.

832
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: In any event, anyway, it was good for him. I

833
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: was impressed in the way he was able to stay

834
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 2: a step ahead of Steve Spagnolo, who's I think still

835
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: one of the better play callers on the defensive side

836
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: of the ball. In the league and has had his

837
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: defense has played great this season. So that was impressive

838
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: and I'm kind of hoping for the same coming off

839
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 2: the bye week for the Bills. So we'll see what

840
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 2: Joe Brady has up his sleeve to try to try

841
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: to stay ahead of that Chiefs defense in a hostile environment.

842
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: But in any event, we go to the phones and

843
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: as promised to Mark in West Seneca, next, what do

844
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 2: you got for us?

845
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 4: Mark?

846
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 2: Here on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 9: Hey, guys, welcome back. You were missed. What I think

848
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 9: as far as the case game goes, They're not as

849
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 9: impressive as they used to be, obviously, But I think

850
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 9: it's going to come down to the same thing when

851
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 9: we play that team. If we can stop that battering

852
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 9: ram running back that they have and make Mahomes have

853
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 9: to beat us through the air, which I know sounds crazy,

854
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 9: we can do it. I really believe we can do

855
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 9: that because I don't their receiving cord does not stare

856
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 9: anybody other than Kelsey. They don't have anybody on that

857
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 9: team that really scares anybody. So that being said, the

858
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 9: reason I called was you guys, correct me if I'm wrong.

859
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 9: I remember a time when assisting or runner was illegal.

860
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 9: You weren't allowed to push him, you weren't allowed to

861
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 9: pull them. You weren't allowed to do anything to assist

862
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 9: the running back or a receiver who caught the ball

863
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 9: and was running with it. And one abouts did they

864
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 9: make that change in the rules, because I mean, the

865
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Speaker 9: offense already has enough advantages and now they're giving them

866
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Speaker 9: this advantage. Also.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know when they amended the rule, but

868
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Speaker 3: they made it so that you could push your own

869
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Speaker 3: run or forward, but you cannot pull him.

870
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Speaker 2: You still can't pull up.

871
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Speaker 3: You can't pull him forward, but you can push him forward,

872
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 3: which means that back in the old days, it means

873
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Speaker 3: at all you had to help him. You had to

874
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Speaker 3: be on side, which means behind the football. And they

875
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 3: changed that h a while ago, and I don't know

876
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Speaker 3: if that it is ever not the case.

877
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was done without much fanfare. Yeah, And

878
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 2: it wasn't like a.

879
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 3: I'm a league story, like oh my gosh, you can right,

880
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 3: you can push them. It allows the offensive line. Here's

881
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 3: the thing they changed it, and a couple of things.

882
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 3: Offensive linemen can't come down. They wouldn't let offensive linemen

883
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 3: come down, and clean up the pile, like catch guys

884
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: standing around watching as the guys going down. They instead

885
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 3: of jumping on these guys defenders are standing around, and

886
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 3: before the play is over and the whistle blows, these

887
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 3: offensive line would come in and just clean those clocks.

888
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 3: They would just knock guys out, you know, just just

889
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 3: to get some hits in and send a physical message.

890
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 3: They would catch guys before the whistle blue and just

891
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 3: blow them up. They stopped allowing them to do that,

892
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 3: but they did say, well, listen, if these offensive line

893
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 3: are gonna help out, they can push their own guy forward,

894
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 3: but they can't blow these defenders up who are just

895
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 3: standing around waiting for the plate end. So all that

896
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 3: kind of came around. Now it's in the mix where

897
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 3: you see it now. Guys jump in trying and push

898
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 3: the guy over the goal line, pushing forward for a

899
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Speaker 3: first down, pushing forward on the tush push, all of

900
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 3: that stuff. You see him taking advantage of it with

901
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 3: their alignment on the on the tush push and the

902
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 3: quarterback sneak. All that stuff's part of the equation.

903
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Speaker 2: Now, jeez, we're doing it. Last night with Pacheco, he

904
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 2: got bottled up after he ran through the hole, got

905
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Speaker 2: stopped at the second level, and the lineman just jumped

906
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Speaker 2: on and he kept pumping his legs and he ends

907
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: up turning a four yard gain into an eleven yard carry.

908
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 2: Is set up first in goal.

909
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 3: Right, And that's part of it's part of the game

910
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 3: these days. You gotta have you gotta have a plan

911
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 3: for that.

912
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Speaker 2: And I'll say Pachecko is a guy that is very

913
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 2: hard not to like. I mean, that guy runs like

914
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 2: he's trying to put craters in the earth.

915
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 3: Yes, he runs like he just got insulted.

916
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got feet like jackhammers. Yeah he is.

917
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Speaker 3: He runs like he is fresh off a heater man.

918
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Speaker 2: Let's go. I'm yeah, he is mad.

919
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Speaker 3: I love that. Yeah, it's a great it's a you

920
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 3: gotta tip your hat.

921
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Speaker 2: To a guy. He's a hard guy not to like,

922
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 2: even if he's not on your team. We do have

923
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Speaker 2: to take a break here, but our number two will

924
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Speaker 2: continue with your phone call. So if you're holding at

925
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Speaker 2: eight oh three oh five fifty, stay right where you are.

926
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Speaker 2: We will get to you as we are wide open

927
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Speaker 2: in our number two here on a Monday. What kind

928
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Speaker 2: of Chiefs team are you expecting for the Bills this

929
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Speaker 2: Sunday after watching them lose at Green Bay on Sunday

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Speaker 2: Night Football eight o three five fifty. Your phone calls

931
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Speaker 2: on one Pills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you,

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Speaker 2: and we're already discussing Bill's chiefs from this perspective. What

936
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Speaker 2: kind of chiefs team are you expecting for the Bills

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Speaker 2: this Sunday after watching them lose to the Packers at

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Speaker 2: Lambeau on Sunday Night Football eight oh three oh five fifty.

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941
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942
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943
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Speaker 2: we lead off with Mark in New Jersey. What do

944
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Speaker 2: you got for us?

945
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Speaker 4: Mark?

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Speaker 10: Good afternoon, gentlemen. Sorry, we couldn't have a better weather

947
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Speaker 10: for you down here, ceb This sun is out today, though,

948
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Speaker 10: Isn't that the way it goes?

949
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's usually the way it works for.

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Speaker 10: Me, unfortunately.

951
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Speaker 4: But Casey.

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Speaker 10: People said a lot about the Bill receiver situation. They're

953
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Speaker 10: relying on a rookie and all Green Bay did. If

954
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Speaker 10: Kelsey beats us, he beats us. But none of these

955
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 10: receivers are going to beat us, and they didn't. Rice

956
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 10: is okay, but he's not up to be in a

957
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Speaker 10: number one yet. Their next leading receiver has twenty two catches.

958
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 10: I think Noah Gray is their third leading receiver. And

959
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 10: then you know the checko had a nice game. But

960
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 10: outside of that, they really can't muster up anything. Tony

961
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 10: is he's a head case. He's not able to take

962
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 10: that step like they thought he would non defense when

963
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 10: you said Spagnolo, he got beat by when he decided

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Speaker 10: the blitz and he likes to do that love and

965
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 10: lafore had answers. I remember they let him overrun the

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Speaker 10: one plated Dobbs deep and Watson beat them several times,

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00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 10: so they and they stayed balanced with Dylan. So I'd

968
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,439
Speaker 10: look for the Bills to do the same thing.

969
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they could certainly go to school on what the

970
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Speaker 2: Packers did, obviously with some tweaks of their own. So

971
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 2: you got to believe the Chiefs are gonna be working

972
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 2: all week to fix what hurt them. Last night. But yeah,

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00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 2: I certainly think the Chiefs are beatable.

974
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, this is a this is a matchup we've

975
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 3: seen a bunch.

976
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's different now, it feels like it's different.

977
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 2: Their defense is better, but their offense is falling off

978
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Speaker 2: of it.

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Speaker 3: The Bills are kind of in that same boat. They're

980
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 3: not they're not. They're six and sixteen. They're not this

981
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 3: yeah job so yeah, and you look down at you're right,

982
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 3: you're right, Mark that Kelsey's got seventy four catches, then

983
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 3: Rice has fifty two, then Pacheco has thirty three, then

984
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 3: Noah Gray twenty two, twenty two, right, so it goes,

985
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 3: it drops off significantly after you get past Rice and Kelsey, uh,

986
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 3: and obviously Pacheco who's on the field all the time.

987
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:52,479
Speaker 3: So you're right, but it's hard to take those guys

988
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 3: away when the Chiefs really want to get them the football.

989
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 3: You got to really commit to it and put some

990
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 3: pressure on some guys in other other spots. So we'll

991
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 3: see if the Bills can get it done that. You know,

992
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 3: the Chiefs are still the Chiefs are kind of Look

993
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 3: where the Bills are the chief they ran off five

994
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 3: wins or six wins early in the season six and one.

995
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 3: Now they've gone lost win loss, win loss. Is they're

996
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 3: kind of in that purgatory where the Bills have been living,

997
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 3: going win loss, win loss, win.

998
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 2: And points have been a problem. Points that didn't get

999
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: to twenty last night. That's the difference.

1000
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 3: They're playing more like a grinded out team rather than

1001
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 3: the Chiefs, you know.

1002
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 2: With that we've become accustomed to.

1003
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 3: So it's it's gonna be a different type of game,

1004
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 3: I think than we've seen, although it could still turn

1005
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 3: out to be thirty eight, thirty five. Who knows, so well,

1006
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 3: we'll sit back and watch. But you're right, you know,

1007
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 3: Noah Gray, Kadarius, Tony and more Sky Moore, you know,

1008
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 3: they're just those aren't the guys that you're worried about

1009
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,919
Speaker 3: the Chiefs choosing to beat you. But they still got Travis, Kelce,

1010
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:00,280
Speaker 3: Rice and Pacheco.

1011
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 2: Will say Kelsey, I'm sure he's any given week he

1012
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 2: can go off, but he doesn't look like the dominant

1013
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: force that he's been and he's getting a little long

1014
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 2: in the tooth. He's thirty three, soon to be thirty four.

1015
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, and there's that coming off the super

1016
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 3: Bowl stuff too. I mean, there, this is a year

1017
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 3: after they kind of like we did it fine, you know,

1018
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 3: less while.

1019
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 2: You don't in the last three years or whatever.

1020
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 3: It's hard to go through the hard things in the

1021
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 3: season when you stay hungry. You stay hungry when you

1022
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 3: know you've just eaten at a buffet.

1023
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 2: Right, let's go to al in Clarence next. What's up Al?

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00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 11: Hey, guys, how you doing today?

1025
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Speaker 2: Good? Good?

1026
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 11: Just a couple of quick points. So I wanted to

1027
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 11: bring up the officiating. It's gotten to be like last

1028
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 11: night Chiefs game with the pass interference that wasn't called

1029
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 11: at the end of it awful, you know, widespread gambling

1030
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Speaker 11: into it. I mean, there's just no consistency in the

1031
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 11: worst gut is there's no consistency at the end of

1032
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 11: the game. I mean it seems like the rules and

1033
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 11: enforcement change within the last three to four minutes of

1034
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Speaker 11: the game. I mean it's getting you know, and that's

1035
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 11: pretty pathetic. Another point I wanted to bring up, you know,

1036
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Speaker 11: a season ticket holder, unfortunately a man got killed leaving

1037
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 11: the stadium. The lighting out there. I'm an older guy,

1038
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 11: and one thing that goes is your eyesight at night,

1039
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 11: and you know, the they need to really light up

1040
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 11: around the stadium in those streets a lot better. I

1041
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 11: leave the games early just to avoid the people, you know,

1042
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 11: because you've got people who are buzzed running in between

1043
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 11: cars and stuff like that. It's it's turned into, you know,

1044
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 11: problematic where I'm considering giving up my season tickets. And

1045
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 11: last but not least, I see one team replace their

1046
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 11: field so they wonn't have as many injuries. I think

1047
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 11: it might be done vern a cost like a quarter

1048
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 11: of a million dollars. Wondering why other teams are replacing

1049
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 11: their their fields for that kind of price. I mean,

1050
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 11: that's that's not even a ball for one of their players.

1051
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 11: So if could get your thoughts and appreciate it.

1052
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, who is a Steelers? He said?

1053
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 2: The Steelers are doing that. Broncos.

1054
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 3: The Broncos. Well, natural grass makes it possible.

1055
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 2: Du Bills will have natural grass in their new stadium.

1056
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 2: It makes it possible some teams.

1057
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Speaker 3: The problem, obviously, particularly in a place like Denver, is

1058
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Speaker 3: two things altitude and the cold and growing the growing

1059
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 3: season is over. Uh. You have a lot of teams

1060
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh has notoriously been ridiculed for the quality

1061
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 3: of their grass. Their grass late in the season because

1062
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 3: they have pitt playing on it, they have a high

1063
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 3: school championship teams playing on it, and the field takes

1064
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 3: a pounding and they'll bring in turf to you know,

1065
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 3: new art grass turf. Yeah, and you know they make it.

1066
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Speaker 3: They get the turf, the saw. It is like six inches,

1067
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 3: it's really heavy, and they do it and so the

1068
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 3: and it gets put down and packed in there. It

1069
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 3: kind of stays in shape, but it's soft and it's cruddy,

1070
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Speaker 3: and they've had real problems with that in past. And

1071
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Speaker 3: because of the traffic that field gets, it's one of

1072
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Speaker 3: those times late in the season where to me, I

1073
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 3: don't know if dangerous. Maybe worse than artificial turf, absolutely,

1074
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 3: but you got it. But they don't want to make

1075
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 3: that change.

1076
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 2: So it's a tough balance to strike if you're in

1077
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Speaker 2: one of the northern cities as a home standing football stadium.

1078
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 2: Because the growing season, and I've talked to groundskeepers, so

1079
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 2: I feel like I know a little bit about this.

1080
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 2: I'm not going to pretend to be an expert, but

1081
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 2: talking to some groundskeepers over the years, including ones that

1082
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 2: have served here, the growing season kind of ends you know,

1083
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 2: mid to late November, the grass doesn't grow. It kind

1084
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 2: of goes into hibernation. And if you have a stadium

1085
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 2: that doesn't have a heat coil system underneath the field,

1086
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 2: like a lot of the European soccer stadiums, you can't

1087
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: trick the grass into continuing to grow because the ground

1088
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 2: is frozen. That's the problem that a lot of these

1089
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 2: teams in the northern cities run into. So turf becomes

1090
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 2: a better alternative because you can maintain it better and

1091
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 2: the integrity of the surface is maintained better. Now the

1092
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 2: Bill's new stadium will have a grass surface and it

1093
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 2: will have a heating heated coil system underneath it to

1094
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 2: continue to allow the grass to grow. You lengthen the

1095
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 2: growing season because you have it heated from underneath and

1096
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 2: the ground doesn't freeze and the grass can continue to

1097
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 2: grow even if the air temperature is cold. So that's

1098
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: what European soccer teams do in their stadiums because they

1099
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 2: only play on grass. And hopefully as new stadiums continue

1100
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 2: to pop up in the NFL Nashville, Buffalo, some other cities, Chicago,

1101
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 2: eventually they'll be able to put in those grass surfaces

1102
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 2: that can continue to grow grass the winter climbs.

1103
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 3: And I know that you two hundred and fifty three

1104
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 3: hundred grand to change out a surface sounds that's chump change.

1105
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 3: Well what happens when you got to do it five

1106
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 3: home games out of your last eight coming down the stretch?

1107
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 2: Yea, As we've seen stadiums with grass before, they won't

1108
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 2: replace the whole thing in December, but they'll roll down

1109
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 2: a stretch in between the hash marks, which usually undergoes

1110
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 2: the most stringent traffic foot traffic in a game. They'll

1111
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 2: replace that strip right down the middle because it looks

1112
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 2: like a mudpit. But they won't replace the whole field.

1113
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 2: But you still run into the same problem that grass

1114
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 2: is only going to be good for a couple of

1115
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 2: weeks because that grass isn't growing either because the older

1116
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 2: stadiums don't have the heated coiling systems underneath the surface

1117
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 2: to keep the grass growing. So again, as you get

1118
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 2: more and more newer stadiums into the rotation, that problem

1119
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 2: will go away and you can maintain a grass surface

1120
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 2: better even in the later months of the season when

1121
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 2: you get into winter. Let's get back to the phones

1122
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 2: and to Kevin in Daytona. What do you got for us, Kevin? Kevin?

1123
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 2: Are you there.

1124
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 10: All right?

1125
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 2: I'll put Kevin on hold. See we can check in

1126
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 2: with him in a minute. Here we go to Jim

1127
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 2: in Hilton next. What we got for his gym?

1128
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 12: Yes, thanks for taking my call. Sure, if I just

1129
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 12: wanted to make the general statements. If the Bills continue

1130
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:29,439
Speaker 12: to play not to lose instead of playing to win,

1131
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,919
Speaker 12: they will lose to the Chiefs even with the six

1132
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 12: losses this year. For me, the most frustrating game to

1133
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 12: watch this year was the home game against Tampa Bay.

1134
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 12: They were easily ahead in that game and they would

1135
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 12: have lost in the whole in the end with if

1136
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 12: the holding penalties on the hill Mary at.

1137
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 4: The end of the game had been called.

1138
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 12: Well twice in that game, Yeah, twice in that game

1139
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:00,919
Speaker 12: on the fourth down, once on Tampa Bay's forty one

1140
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 12: yard to go and later with near midfield with three

1141
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 12: yards to go. We pull that stupid play where we

1142
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 12: line up expecting the defense to go offside, but they're

1143
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 12: not going to because we always do the same thing.

1144
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 12: We just stand there. So we have the best quarterback

1145
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 12: in the NFL. We need to trust him, right, that's

1146
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 12: all I have to say.

1147
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get your point, Jim, and it's a valid one.

1148
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 2: You do have one of the most productive quarterbacks in

1149
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 2: the league. He leads the league in touchdowns. He also

1150
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 2: leads the league in turnovers. But I think when the

1151
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 2: game is on the line, you have to trust that

1152
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 2: guy and give him the opportunity to go win the

1153
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 2: game for you. And Sean McDermott has done that in

1154
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 2: the past. I mean, he did it last year on Thanksgiving.

1155
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 2: There's twenty three seconds left, they've got three timeouts and

1156
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 2: they've got the football in a twenty five to twenty

1157
01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 2: five ballgame, and he trusted his quarterback. Guess what, his

1158
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 2: quarterback helped him win the game. He ripped a pass

1159
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 2: over the middle of Stefan Digs for thirty seven yards.

1160
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 2: They were in field goal range. They gained some more

1161
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 2: yardage after that, and Bass comes on, he kicks a

1162
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 2: game winning field goal. They win twenty eight to twenty five.

1163
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 2: So it's happened before. But to your point, Jim, it

1164
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 2: does have to happen now.

1165
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you're right. You're not alone either, Jim. There's

1166
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 3: a lot of people that share your sentiments. I mean,

1167
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 3: in fact, you know, after every loss, no matter how

1168
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:29,439
Speaker 3: it happens, there's always that vocal minority that says fire

1169
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 3: the head coach, and that is where the lot of

1170
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 3: that voice comes from is from they don't think he's

1171
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 3: good in those moments. They think he coaches not to

1172
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,439
Speaker 3: lose rather than attack on either side of the ball.

1173
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 3: I think they are much different at the end of

1174
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 3: games now. You can say what you want. They've lost

1175
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 3: four leads in the last two minutes this season in

1176
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 3: losses with the other team scoring. But they are much

1177
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 3: more aggressive than they have been in a year's past

1178
01:02:55,880 --> 01:03:00,439
Speaker 3: with Sean McDermott calling the defense. I think also because

1179
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 3: of the injuries, this defense that Sean McDermott's coordinating is

1180
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 3: down personnel that they were knocked down in years past,

1181
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 3: and they're playing more aggressively try to trying to help

1182
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 3: those guys rather than playing passive letting teams make plays

1183
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 3: on them. So there's a little bit of that in

1184
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 3: here too. But you're not alone in the fact that

1185
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,959
Speaker 3: we hear that refrain a lot that you can't coach

1186
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 3: not to lose, you can't play not to lose, and

1187
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 3: at times in these one score games of the Bills

1188
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 3: get into you know you got you come down to

1189
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 3: making these it's it comes down to the specific plays,

1190
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 3: specific refs call, specific formation, specific player, and that's the game.

1191
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 3: Teeters on it because so they're so close.

1192
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 2: But the guy who was Sean McDermott's mentor, Andy Reid,

1193
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 2: who he's facing this week in Kansas City, obviously was

1194
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 2: once asked, you know what is your approach when things

1195
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 2: look bad? And that's why? And Andy Reid gave the

1196
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 2: famous quote when things are grim, be the grim reaper.

1197
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 2: And and Andy Reid has a history of that. He

1198
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 2: goes for it on fourth down in the regular season.

1199
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 2: In the playoffs, he's even more aggressive. I don't have

1200
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 2: the numbers in front of me, but his go for

1201
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 2: it type situations fourth down, what have you? His percentages

1202
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 2: of going for it in the playoffs go up about

1203
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 2: twenty five to thirty percent.

1204
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 3: I think.

1205
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 2: So when there, when the stakes are even higher, Andy

1206
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 2: Reid gets more aggressive. Now that's easy to do when

1207
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 2: you got Patrick Mahomes as a quarterback. But but the

1208
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 2: point is well taken, and you've got a comparable one

1209
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 2: here in Buffalo.

1210
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 3: That's right.

1211
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 2: But when Andy Reid says when things are grim. Be

1212
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 2: the grim reaper. That's the way you got to live

1213
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,919
Speaker 2: if you want to win the ultimate prize in this league.

1214
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 3: I agree totally. And there's been instances like like Jim

1215
01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 3: said that, where you think, man, they're not doing that,

1216
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 3: and that's where that's where the the tension in how

1217
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 3: much you love the Bills and how they're playing and

1218
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 3: the losses they take and how agree how gut wrenching

1219
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 3: these losses are. All of them are like by one

1220
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 3: possession or less, and it's just you say, you watch

1221
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 3: them do that every other week. It's it's it's tough.

1222
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,439
Speaker 2: Let's go to Joe in Akron next. What's up Joe?

1223
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 13: Hey, guys, Happy holidays to you. Hey, listen, look, I

1224
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 13: got a little different approach here. You know, everybody's got

1225
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 13: injuries in the league right now, everybody's running on reserves

1226
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 13: and the parody in the league. There's teams coming out

1227
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 13: of the woodwork that we never expected to win. Casey

1228
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 13: is a championship team. They will be ready for the

1229
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 13: Bills this weekend, You mark my words. They're going to

1230
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 13: pull out stuff this weekend. The Bills aren't expecting and

1231
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 13: the Bills better be ready. This game is going to

1232
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 13: be about coaching. It'll be about coaching one hundred percent,

1233
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 13: mark my words. And that's what I got to say.

1234
01:05:58,880 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 13: Happy holidays to you.

1235
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 2: All right, Thanks Joe, appreciate the call and the opinions.

1236
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 2: I would counter that by saying, the Bills are the

1237
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 2: team that's been on the bye week. I'm hoping it's

1238
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 2: the Bills that have some things up their sleeves for

1239
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 2: Kansas City, Right. Sean McDermott is six and oh in

1240
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 2: his career after the bye as a head coach. Now

1241
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 2: we should mention all six of those games were at home.

1242
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 2: Bills have never had a road game off of bye

1243
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,919
Speaker 2: under Sean McDermott. But they are six and oh after

1244
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 2: the bye. See if they can make it seven and oh.

1245
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 2: This week, we'll see back to the phones and we're

1246
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 2: going to go to Kevin in Florida. Here. What do

1247
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 2: you got, Kevin?

1248
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 14: I'm still here. I'm looking for answers on the push

1249
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 14: push business here. Has anybody talked with any of the

1250
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 14: coaches of the major drum teams? Who is that rugby?

1251
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 14: The rugby guys, does anybody don't they have clues on

1252
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 14: how to move huge people and huge well man.

1253
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 3: Kevin, let just let me let me stop there. Yeah,

1254
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 3: there's a lot of smart guys attacking this from a

1255
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 3: defensive standpoint what the rules allow and what they don't allow.

1256
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 3: In the National Football League, certainly, the tush push is

1257
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 3: this big controversial thing that people are trying to outlaw

1258
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 3: because they're so good at it. If it was that easy,

1259
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 3: every team would be doing it.

1260
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 2: They're not.

1261
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 3: You're going to have to come up with a way

1262
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 3: to defend it. Smart guys are going to do that.

1263
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 3: There's no reason for everybody to look to the sky

1264
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 3: and say the sky is falling. Because they've got a

1265
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 3: play that gets some two yards every time. It's not

1266
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 3: that big a deal. Certainly, they use it to their

1267
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 3: advantage and it's weaponed, but smart people are on it

1268
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 3: and they're going to figure out a way again against it. Plus,

1269
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 3: the Eagles are going to be able to do this.

1270
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 3: They've got a five time All Pro center who is

1271
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 3: smart and savvy. They just get some They've got some

1272
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 3: advantages personnel wise and specifically to their team that nobody

1273
01:07:54,720 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 3: else can duplicate at the current moment. But let's just

1274
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 3: be real. I mean, it's very nice, good for them.

1275
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 3: It's fine. Don't panic that Philadelphia is forever in perpetuity

1276
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 3: going to be able to go first and nine instead

1277
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 3: of first and ten. So I get it. It's it's

1278
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 3: a funky thing. It looks unfair when it works so easily,

1279
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 3: and it always looks really easy. Believe me, those guys

1280
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 3: down inside don't think it's easy. But smart guys are

1281
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 3: going to come up with a plan, and that team

1282
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 3: is going to start to falter running it after they

1283
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 3: start switching out offensive linemen and centers and even their quarterback.

1284
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 3: So you know, it's just like what if if the

1285
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 3: K gun no huddle offense was the elixir that did

1286
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 3: it all the time every time, people everywhere and everybody

1287
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 3: would be running it.

1288
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 2: People figured out how to counteract the forty six defense

1289
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 2: that's Chicago Bears in nineteen eighty five, nineteen eighty eight.

1290
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,719
Speaker 2: People had answers for it, Bill Walsh's West Coast offense.

1291
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 2: It took a while, probably almost a day, Kate, but

1292
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 2: people came up with answers how to defend that. So

1293
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 2: it's it's a very cyclical league. Offense gets ahead with

1294
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 2: some kind of new fangled thing, defense catches up and

1295
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 2: then sometimes defense comes up with a unique scheme that

1296
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,679
Speaker 2: offenses have problems with, like the forty six defensive Buddy Ryan.

1297
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 2: It's a cyclical league. Someone will come up with a

1298
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 2: way to stop that at.

1299
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,600
Speaker 3: Or they will cease to be as effective with the

1300
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 3: guys they have and the new guys won't be able

1301
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 3: to execute.

1302
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 2: Her Jason Kelsey's thirty six, Lane Johnson's thirty four. Maybe

1303
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 2: some of those guys age out and they can't.

1304
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 3: Do it as well, and you know, all of a sudden,

1305
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, you know, your quarterback gets

1306
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 3: a finger broken doing it, or he gets a you know, concussion,

1307
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 3: concussion or something doing it, and they don't think it's

1308
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 3: worth the risk. So, because I'll say there's a there's

1309
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 3: probably some pretty solid reasons why other teams aren't trying

1310
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 3: it as often as the Philadelphia Eagles do it. Gotta

1311
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 3: be some reasons for that. I don't know what those are.

1312
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 3: I couldn't give you specific reasons, and they're probably different

1313
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 3: for team. Subsequently down the line around the league, this

1314
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 3: team doesn't do it because they don't they think it

1315
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 3: puts their quarterback at risk. Or this team doesn't do

1316
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 3: it because they don't ever go under center that kind

1317
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:16,799
Speaker 3: of thing or whatever. So I am I was frankly

1318
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 3: a little surprised at some of the major media members

1319
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 3: saying they got an outlaw. This isn't I'm like, are.

1320
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 2: You kidding me? They'll figure out what are you doing?

1321
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 2: I know a solution will be defencessed by somebody somewhere

1322
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 2: that's that's t ball. Yeah, come on, I mean they've

1323
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 2: defensive coordinators around this league have figured out a lot

1324
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 2: tougher problems than that, So I know it hasn't been

1325
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:42,919
Speaker 2: solved in two years. It'll get fit, it'll get addressed.

1326
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 2: If it becomes enough of an issue for defenses, they

1327
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,600
Speaker 2: will get it addressed somehow, some way. Let's go to

1328
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 2: Jeff into Pew next. What's up Jeff?

1329
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 15: Any guys, I just want to wish he is all

1330
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:56,560
Speaker 15: merry Christmas.

1331
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:57,719
Speaker 2: So they have to know your you as well.

1332
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 15: But I was watching the San Francisco Philadelphia game and

1333
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 15: I just want to say something to coach Sean McDermott.

1334
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,719
Speaker 15: See how you win a game. You don't lose a game.

1335
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 15: You win a game. They had the team one and

1336
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 15: you're the defensive coordinator. You're the defensive coach learn to

1337
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 15: win all in six doesn't do it. We're not going

1338
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 15: to run the table newsplash. If it does happen, God

1339
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 15: bless you. But I just want to say it's not

1340
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:32,719
Speaker 15: going to happen.

1341
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 3: Got well, thanks for chiming in there day with your

1342
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 3: sunshine yourself, Jeff. I appreciated that.

1343
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:42,719
Speaker 2: That's Jeff's opinion. He's entitled to it. Yeah, he's saying,

1344
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 2: oh and six, he's referencing the overtime record that the

1345
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 2: Bills have since twenty eighteen. I get it. It's frustrating.

1346
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 2: I've watched all of them, been there for all of them,

1347
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, I get the frustration and the pessimism because,

1348
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 2: as we stated earlier, are the Bills capable of ripping

1349
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 2: off five wins in a row. Absolutely, they got the

1350
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 2: talent to do it. You know, they've got uh smart

1351
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:11,919
Speaker 2: enough minds in that on that coaching staff to execute

1352
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 2: it as well or to draw it up anyway, and

1353
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 2: they have the players to execute it. But it's hard

1354
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 2: to be optimistic when you have a team that hasn't

1355
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 2: won back to back games since Week four. So it's

1356
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 2: time for the for the team to turn it on

1357
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 2: here and restore some faith in their fan base because

1358
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 2: guys like Jeff and Depew aren't feeling it right now.

1359
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 3: Jeff's feeling it right. He's done, he's done.

1360
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 2: He's packing it in here on just super not having

1361
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 2: forget all right, We got to take a break here.

1362
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 2: More of your phone calls though, when we come back.

1363
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 2: We're wide open here in this second hour, so we'll

1364
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 2: take more of your phone calls. Uh, Diane and Chicawaga

1365
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 2: and Bob and Springville will lead us off, but open

1366
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 2: lines for you at eight oh three oh five point fifty.

1367
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 2: What what kind of Chiefs team are you expecting for

1368
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 2: the Bills on Sunday? Let us know here next on

1369
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 2: one Bill's lived all right, ladies and germs, It's Chiefs Week,

1370
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 2: And as the team heads back to Arrowhead, we're giving

1371
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 2: away a signed Dion Dawkins football enter today at Buffalo

1372
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 2: Bills dot com slash giveaway. Got to get back to

1373
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:26,719
Speaker 2: the phones at eight oh three oh five point fifty

1374
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 2: one eight eight eight five point fifty two five point

1375
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 2: fifty as we're checking in with you to see what

1376
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 2: you think about the kind of Chiefs team you're expecting

1377
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 2: on Sunday when the Bills travel to Arrowhead to take

1378
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 2: on that Chiefs team that just lost to the Packers

1379
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 2: on Sunday night football. To the phones we go, And

1380
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:47,679
Speaker 2: to Diane in cheek Towoggan X. What's up Diane?

1381
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 9: Happy holidays guys, Yeah you as well.

1382
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 4: Well.

1383
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 9: I just called to wish DAWSHONAX. Congratulations. That's right his engagement.

1384
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, got engaged over the bye. We so using the

1385
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 2: time to his advantage. Congrats to him and his uh

1386
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 2: soon to be spouse.

1387
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 11: So yeahs to that he had the same.

1388
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 9: But thanks for your time.

1389
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, no problem, glad you wanted to pass along

1390
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 2: some well wishes there. To Bob in Springville, what's up, Bob,

1391
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 2: Bobby you're there? Yes, what you got first, Bob, you're

1392
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 2: on the air.

1393
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 8: Uh yeah, I want Steve Danisher last night on the

1394
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 8: Kansas City Green Bay game, when they called the penalty,

1395
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 8: I didn't take the homes was out of bounds and

1396
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 8: they still called the penalty.

1397
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, roughing the past or unnecessary roughness they called. Yeah

1398
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 2: that was a little out of sorts. We thought so too, right.

1399
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 3: Steve, Yeah, it was absolutely not a penalty.

1400
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 2: He's still fighting for yards.

1401
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 3: He's not even out of bounds.

1402
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 2: No, he's not out of bounds. He's still fighting for yards.

1403
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 2: He had not given himself up in any way, shape or.

1404
01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 3: For We'll say this, yeah, it's close. But I'm disappointed

1405
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 3: the league doesn't have in place the ability for the

1406
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 3: upstairs official, the observer, to say, hey, that's he was

1407
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 3: in bound. Sorry, it's it's not a penalty. I'm I'm

1408
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 3: disappointed that that's not there and they did, couldn't make

1409
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 3: that happen.

1410
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 2: Pat's got to get out, he's got to get out

1411
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 2: of pounds. You can't absolve the quarterback of any and

1412
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 2: all he does ability, especially after he's declared himself as

1413
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 2: a runner that's right, which is what he did on

1414
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 2: that play.

1415
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 3: You can't. It's a bad call. Shouldn't have been made.

1416
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 3: And that's that's the way of it. I mean, there's

1417
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 3: no question about it. And I don't know how you

1418
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:39,719
Speaker 3: can defend it. You can't, I mean, but that's why

1419
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:43,640
Speaker 3: the league should say, hey, listen, if you that observer upstairs,

1420
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 3: what happens is and it came about about a I

1421
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 3: don't know, maybe what is it, ten years ago, maybe Brownie,

1422
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 3: not even where they've got an official observer up in

1423
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 3: the up in the booth and he expedites spots for them,

1424
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 3: they'll say, or he'll stop the game to review something.

1425
01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 3: He say, hey, wait a minute, we need to take

1426
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 3: a look at this. And there's strict rules about what

1427
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 3: plays he can help with and not help with. Certainly

1428
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 3: spotting the ball where the ball was passed the line

1429
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 3: before the line he can just he expedites it all

1430
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 3: and he says, hey, pick that flag up, right, yeah, whatever,

1431
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 3: And he didn't do it in this situation, probably because

1432
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:24,520
Speaker 3: it was against the rules, because there's no way anybody

1433
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 3: with two eyes could see that play and not know.

1434
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 3: It was a clean play. It was clean as a whistle.

1435
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 3: The guy was trying to get the first down, he

1436
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 3: was ready to marker, and he's in bounds and he's upright,

1437
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 3: he's not sliding, he's not doing any of that stuff.

1438
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 3: So that to me, and that's as bad a call

1439
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 3: as there was all weekend.

1440
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 2: And not only that, nobody upstairs can signal down to

1441
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 2: fix it. You can't. That's why that's there.

1442
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 3: It's all it took was that official from upstairs going hey, you.

1443
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 2: Should pick that flag up. Yeah, that's it. You guys

1444
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 2: missed it. Pick it up and they don't, and they

1445
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 2: couldn't do that, So they got it wrong on the

1446
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 2: first time and on review.

1447
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 3: And then yeah, they couldn't. Yeah, obviously they couldn't review it.

1448
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 3: That's one of the rules that it must be outside

1449
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 3: the realm of what is allowable from the upstairs observer

1450
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 3: to come down and say, hey, pick that flag up.

1451
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 3: But there you go. That's yeah, you're right, Bob m hm.

1452
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 3: That was a bad penalty, bad indeed, And.

1453
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 2: Along with the non passer interference chieves.

1454
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 3: It's getting to the point where the league is so

1455
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:43,640
Speaker 3: the level of professionalism and elite play and the the

1456
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 3: ins and outs of the game, the subtleties of the

1457
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 3: game are at such a high level that it's hard

1458
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 3: to officiate at that high level and certainly impossible to

1459
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 3: do it consistently across the board. It's getting to be

1460
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 3: where it's so difficult to call these games then get

1461
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 3: it right all the time. They can't. They don't.

1462
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and.

1463
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 3: It's become an ongoing storyline throughout the season.

1464
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 2: And it's one thing when the consistency is lacking from

1465
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 2: one crew to another, you're dealing with a whole different

1466
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 2: set of humans. So to expect them to be officiated

1467
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 2: consistently is probably unrealistic when you got eight people over

1468
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 2: here and eight people over there, and.

1469
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 3: You know that kind of thing, those eight people traveling togeather.

1470
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 3: These eight people travel that they're all separate, that you.

1471
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 2: Can understand to a certain extent, But you've got crews

1472
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 2: in the same game that can't officiate. I mean, do

1473
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,440
Speaker 2: we need to go back to Week twelve in Philadelphia

1474
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 2: first half? Ten penalties for Buffalo, one for Philadelphia, Like

1475
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 2: I have not seen that kind of disparity ever in

1476
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 2: one half of a football game in my life, and

1477
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 2: I've been watching for over twenty five years. Like, what

1478
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 2: is going on there? Like that is just agree.

1479
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 3: It has appeared egregious on multiple occasions across the league

1480
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 3: on every weekend, not of every weekend, but a lot

1481
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 3: of weekends. And it's a it's ongoing, and I think

1482
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 3: it's one of the things that used to be. You know,

1483
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:15,640
Speaker 3: when I was a kid, you ain't have any you

1484
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 3: have no recourse, You didn't even know if anybody else

1485
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 3: thought the way you did. Now with social media and

1486
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:23,640
Speaker 3: the amount of analysts who are doing podcasts in their

1487
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 3: own basement, I mean.

1488
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 2: Everybody's got a public opinion.

1489
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 3: Everybody's our public opinion that you can peruse and pick

1490
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 3: the ones you like. I mean, we all know that's

1491
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 3: the atmosphere we live in, and so the officials are

1492
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 3: trying to work in that and man or man, it's

1493
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 3: it's gotten more and more impossible. Forget about difficult, it's

1494
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 3: more and more possible.

1495
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:46,879
Speaker 2: I don't envy the job, envy the job of the officials.

1496
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 2: I'll be the first to admit it's difficult. But somehow,

1497
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 2: some way, the league's got to find their way to

1498
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 2: more consistent officiating within a game. I understand it's going

1499
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 2: to differ from crew to crew, but within a game,

1500
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 2: it's got to be better. There's got to be like,

1501
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 2: if you're gonna call the game tight, call it tight

1502
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 2: for sixty minutes for both sides. If you're gonna be

1503
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 2: if you're gonna let him play and not call as much,

1504
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 2: let all sides of the ball play on both teams.

1505
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:21,639
Speaker 3: And I'll say this too, And because we it's fun

1506
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 3: and it's low hanging fruit for us to pick, you know,

1507
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 3: the the pat mahomes unnecessary roughness and then try and

1508
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:33,440
Speaker 3: counter balance that with the lack of a pass interference

1509
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 3: call on a hail Mary at the end of that game.

1510
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 3: There it goes back and forth. I'll say this, and

1511
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 3: trust me on this because i know I've seen it

1512
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 3: firsthand and I've heard conversations firsthand from high level officials

1513
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 3: in the NFL. They do not take it lightly. They

1514
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 3: do not They do not take this line down. They

1515
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 3: do do not chalk this up as cost of doing business.

1516
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:03,639
Speaker 3: They take it really seriously, and they take pertinent and

1517
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 3: logical steps towards trying to fix it. And that includes

1518
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 3: full time officials. It includes starting a feeder system, and

1519
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 3: with off season classes and off season activities, the whole

1520
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 3: thing they go. They attack it soup to nuts, officiating

1521
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 3: from the top to the bottom all the time. And

1522
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 3: even having done all that, the one problem in one

1523
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 3: of the challenges that continues to go is because our

1524
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:38,559
Speaker 3: game evolves. And the one they don't change the rules,

1525
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 3: but they change in what and we've all heard it

1526
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 3: points of emphasis where Okay, this year, guys, here's what

1527
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 3: we want. And they'll tell them to like, all right,

1528
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 3: we called that last year, We're not gonna call it

1529
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:51,720
Speaker 3: this year. Or we didn't call that last year. But

1530
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 3: because of this and this, we're gonna start tallying that up.

1531
01:21:55,360 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 3: We're gonna call it. So it's, yeah, it's really difficult,

1532
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 3: and like I said, it's it's getting more and more

1533
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 3: impossible to do it perfectly. But don't think the league

1534
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 3: does not care and does not work on it, because

1535
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 3: they do. The problem is when you get out there

1536
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 3: and you get these guys going and they're going on

1537
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 3: thousand miles per hour rather than in super slow motion

1538
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 3: like where they learn this stuff. I mean, the challenges

1539
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 3: are self evident. I mean it's impossible to get it right.

1540
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 3: So they you know, they try and help these guys

1541
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:32,560
Speaker 3: as much as they can, and sometimes they can, and

1542
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 3: then sometimes because of their desire to keep it on

1543
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 3: the field, they tie the hands of a guy.

1544
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 2: Who could fix it right.

1545
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 3: So you know, we'll see I think that we'll see

1546
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 3: more and more points where they're going to free guys

1547
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 3: up on the field. And I heard Dean Blandino say

1548
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 3: this as well. You know the guy, the officiating expert

1549
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 3: that worked for the NFL for a year and was brilliant.

1550
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 3: He's very good at what he does.

1551
01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 2: He works for the USFL and XFL.

1552
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 3: Yes, he does. He's really good at officiating and overseeing

1553
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 3: all of it. He said this, He goes now it's

1554
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 3: become so prevalent that he suspects that some of the

1555
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 3: officials in today's game are relying on replay and they're

1556
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 3: hoping that replay will get him out of a tough call.

1557
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 3: So that has opened up that as a new challenge

1558
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 3: for the officiating Crews. Don't think that somebody else is

1559
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 3: going to get it right for you, So you think,

1560
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 3: you know, they throw the flag and if nobody's there

1561
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 3: to challenge it, or if the team, if it's not

1562
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 3: a consequential enough play to challenge it, and it's a

1563
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 3: bad call, you got.

1564
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 2: To live with it and it goes on your record.

1565
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 3: Same thing. They don't want to call a penalty because

1566
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 3: they don't want to have it overturned and that'll go

1567
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 3: against their thing. And they think replay will have a

1568
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 3: better shot at it, and they can't tell, so they

1569
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 3: just let it go and hope it gets you know,

1570
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 3: comes out in the wash. So there's all kinds of

1571
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 3: challenges and two sides to this story. This coin that

1572
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:05,719
Speaker 3: is it officiating and the league takes it incredibly seriously. Yeah,

1573
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 3: but the more it seems like the more seriously they

1574
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 3: take it, the more impossible it becomes to get right.

1575
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones and to Bill in

1576
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:16,679
Speaker 2: Buffalo next. What do you got Bill?

1577
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 15: Hey, guys, first time caller, A lot of time watching

1578
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 15: or show.

1579
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 16: Yeah, I was just wondering, like, how do you think

1580
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 16: the defense is gonna stand up to the Chiefs, which

1581
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 16: obviously they have a high powered offense, And just to see,

1582
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 16: like what's your take on maybe getting a flag for

1583
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 16: the defensive side of the ball, Like, Okay, you can

1584
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:48,680
Speaker 16: challenge a flag on the offensive side, why can't you

1585
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,759
Speaker 16: challenge a call on the defense for like a non

1586
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 16: non titally or a penalty that should have been called.

1587
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're never gonna get him to flag. And I'll

1588
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:01,719
Speaker 3: say this to my you know, a lot of people

1589
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 3: know I have some experience in the CFL from watching

1590
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 3: my son play up there for seven years or so

1591
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 3: when I went to a ton of games. They have

1592
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 3: the ability up there to call a penalty with a

1593
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 3: challenge flag. You throw the flag and say like they like,

1594
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 3: you're a defensive challenge anything, you're a defensive coordinator, and

1595
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:21,639
Speaker 3: they you give up a touchdown on the far side

1596
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 3: there was the illegal man down the field over here.

1597
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:26,560
Speaker 3: I want it called, and they'll throw the flag and

1598
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 3: they'll go back and look at it. They got an

1599
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 3: angle of it. He's right, touchdown comes off the board.

1600
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 3: You're back here. Now it's third down instead of second

1601
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 3: and ten. It's now third and ten and here you go.

1602
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 3: So it's and plus the or it's replay of second

1603
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:43,559
Speaker 3: down and you got a five yard penalty that kind

1604
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,600
Speaker 3: of whatever the penalty is. So there is that available

1605
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:48,599
Speaker 3: in other leagues. And you can bet the NFL has

1606
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 3: looked at it. I'll say this, it has as many

1607
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:59,520
Speaker 3: minuses as it does pluses. The game becomes it becomes

1608
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 3: a workshop on management, and it's it. You want to

1609
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 3: talk about bringing the game to a grinding halt.

1610
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:12,599
Speaker 2: That does it. That's that's a dangerous rabbit hole toga.

1611
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 3: So it's and you know, so it's being able to

1612
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 3: challenge anything anytime, anywhere on the field.

1613
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 2: And bog your game down.

1614
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 3: It boggs the game down to a to an absolute crawl.

1615
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,600
Speaker 3: And nobody wants that. No, they want to avoid it

1616
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 3: if they can.

1617
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 2: Break time for us here. But more of your phone

1618
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 2: calls when we come back, what kind of Chiefs team.

1619
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 2: Are you expecting for the Bills this Sunday after their

1620
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 2: loss to the Packers in Lambeau last night? Eight o

1621
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,680
Speaker 2: three oh five point fifty your calls next here on

1622
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live. Stay tuned, All right, welcome back to

1623
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, asking

1624
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 2: you what kind of Chiefs team you're expect I think

1625
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 2: for the Bills on Sunday after their Sunday night football

1626
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:06,680
Speaker 2: loss at Lambeau to the Packers. And we go to

1627
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 2: Bob in Lancaster next. How are we doing air Bob?

1628
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:14,640
Speaker 4: Very good. I love to listening to you guys, and

1629
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 4: I've been calling in a little bit more these days,

1630
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 4: like it's interesting to talk to you. Thanks for doing

1631
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 4: without without again beating into this penalty situation too much.

1632
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 4: I want to just make one comment, and uh, it

1633
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:33,759
Speaker 4: just seems that no matter what you do this year,

1634
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 4: there's gonna be a lot of bad calls made. And

1635
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 4: I think the trick is to stop self inflicted wounds.

1636
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:45,639
Speaker 4: You know. I think the list loss that they had,

1637
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:49,679
Speaker 4: if they didn't have the self inflicted wounds, the bad

1638
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 4: calls would have not close to the game. So this

1639
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 4: time around, if they avoid that with the Chiefs, that

1640
01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:00,679
Speaker 4: would be a big improvement on uh having to worry

1641
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 4: about losing the game because of penalties necessarily.

1642
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 2: I get, yeah, go ahead, Bob.

1643
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 4: Well, I just have a few points, and I'd like

1644
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 4: to hear a little bit about each one, actually, Uh.

1645
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:16,599
Speaker 4: And you know, looking at h at the game last night,

1646
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 4: moving the ball around seemed to be the tript for

1647
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 4: Green Bay. They weren't fixated on any particular receiver or

1648
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 4: running game versus passing. They mix things up, and I

1649
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 4: think that put the fuse a little bit on their

1650
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 4: on their heels more than it might be if if

1651
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:45,639
Speaker 4: if they were a monolithic type of an approach and

1652
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 4: looking at the homes, you know, in the last drives, Uh,

1653
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 4: he threw the ball out of bounds and he couldn't

1654
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 4: find a good receiver. And I think they were playing

1655
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 4: one on one if I'm not mistaken at the end

1656
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 4: of that game, and I think there's an opportunity to

1657
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 4: pick him off. I think mymes is susceptible to that

1658
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 4: if our defensive backs keep an eye out for the

1659
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,680
Speaker 4: way he's passing the ball. So that's kind of what

1660
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,599
Speaker 4: I wanted to ask. If you had any of the

1661
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 4: same kinds of opinions, and and going back when one

1662
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 4: game more and then I'll drop it. Is there's something

1663
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:29,599
Speaker 4: to be learned from San Francisco and Philadelphia. I think,

1664
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 4: you know, the game started off and it looked like

1665
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 4: I think San Francisco was getting shut down, and they

1666
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:42,599
Speaker 4: made some adjustments and they didn't lose any any momentum

1667
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 4: once they made those adjustments and they took over the game.

1668
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:49,639
Speaker 2: So anyway, yeah, we'll try to go in reverse order

1669
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 2: here with regard to San Francisco. It's no coincidence that

1670
01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 2: then when they were on a three game losing streak,

1671
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 2: they did not have Deebo Samuel in the lineup. Christian

1672
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 2: McCaffrey was in and out of the lineup, and Brock

1673
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:12,839
Speaker 2: Purdy was dinged. When when Brock Perty's in the lineup,

1674
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:16,280
Speaker 2: when Christian McCaffrey's in the lineup, and when Deebo Samuel

1675
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 2: is in the lineup, they're unbeaten.

1676
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:20,679
Speaker 3: They're sixteen and oh over the course of the last

1677
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 3: half a year, last year, in this year.

1678
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:24,639
Speaker 2: So it helps when you have your most talented players

1679
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:26,559
Speaker 2: on the field, something that the Bills have not had

1680
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 2: for much of this season. Matt Milano, Tradavius White, Daikwon Jones.

1681
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 2: We've run down the list before to your officiating point

1682
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 2: and self sabotage about the Bills. I totally get what

1683
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 2: you're saying. Yes, it is true that if you don't

1684
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 2: sabotage yourself, the bad calls that are inevitably going to

1685
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 2: happen in the game don't exacerbate or amplify the problem.

1686
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:55,719
Speaker 2: I agree with that one hundred percent. Now, the Connor

1687
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 2: McGovern holding call in the Eagles game where he just

1688
01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 2: puts his two hands on the back of a lineup

1689
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:03,000
Speaker 2: that's falling down trying to rush the passer and he's

1690
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 2: just trying to make sure he stays down and you

1691
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 2: get called for offensive holding. That's a bunch of hogwash.

1692
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:12,600
Speaker 2: But the ten yard penalty kills you when you just

1693
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 2: had a false start before that, and you know, let's

1694
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 2: just say, a bad exchange that you had to fall

1695
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 2: on for a loss of two. So now instead of

1696
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 2: second and fifteen, you've got second and twenty five. I

1697
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 2: agree with you from that standpoint. Don't sabotage yourself to

1698
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 2: compound a bad call into something even worse. I agree

1699
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 2: with that. You want to address the other nothing.

1700
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 3: You're right. I mean, the self inflicted penalties are self evident.

1701
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 3: The ones that get you're the ones that happen that

1702
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 3: don't get called against you, and the ones that are

1703
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 3: made up that didn't happen and are still and are

1704
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:50,760
Speaker 3: called because they the official thought he saw something. Those

1705
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:53,439
Speaker 3: are the ones that crush you. And you know, yes,

1706
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:56,719
Speaker 3: as long as it's one, no problem. If it's eight

1707
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 3: and a half, that's that is a problem. Kansas City,

1708
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 3: Green Bay the move. You're right, Green Bay did a

1709
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 3: nice job spreading the wealth last night. They found a

1710
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:07,640
Speaker 3: lot of different receivers. The Bills have started to do

1711
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 3: that of late, with Joe Brady calling the plays. Khalil

1712
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:15,599
Speaker 3: Shakirs starting to get throws, gave Davis's He's had finally

1713
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 3: had a game where we noticed him. And of course

1714
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:20,760
Speaker 3: Diggs is always going to get his targets, and kinkaid

1715
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:23,600
Speaker 3: Is continues to be the best rookie tight end in

1716
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 3: the league, so all of that gives them and James

1717
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 3: Cook so and they're even finding Latavious As getting a

1718
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 3: couple of targets. So the Bills are on that track.

1719
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 3: You're right, and Ty Johnson is starting to run.

1720
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:38,280
Speaker 2: Well.

1721
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 3: I like that guy. So that sets the Bills up

1722
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:46,599
Speaker 3: under the premise of your statement very well for this game, right.

1723
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 2: And Green Bay, not for nothing, doesn't really have a

1724
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:53,599
Speaker 2: true number one receiver in their receiving corp. They got

1725
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 2: a lot of young guys as they're trying to bring

1726
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:58,719
Speaker 2: along Luke Musgreg their top tight end who's a rookie,

1727
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 2: was out of this game, and so too was Aaron Jones,

1728
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:04,800
Speaker 2: so they had to kind of spread their wealth almost

1729
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:07,519
Speaker 2: out of necessity, to try to see who had a

1730
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 2: hot hand, who could make plays for them. Christian Watson

1731
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 2: had a nice game for them last night, but I

1732
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:14,639
Speaker 2: don't know if people would definitely say he's the number

1733
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:17,160
Speaker 2: one or Romeo Dobbs is the number one receiver, So

1734
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:18,760
Speaker 2: they kind of had to spread it around due to

1735
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:22,200
Speaker 2: lack of name players like Aaron Jones in the lineup.

1736
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, but when we come

1737
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:28,519
Speaker 2: back our number three, we'll begin with my broadcast partner

1738
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:31,280
Speaker 2: on the Bills Radio Network, One, Eric Wood joins us

1739
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:34,000
Speaker 2: as he does every Monday, as we look ahead to

1740
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 2: Bill's Chiefs. Here on one Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health,

1741
01:33:37,280 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1742
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:27,639
Speaker 1: These One Bills Live presented by Calida Health.

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01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 2: All Right, hour number three here on a Monday, Chris Brown,

1744
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:34,680
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you coming off the bye week, and

1745
01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 2: guy who doesn't get a bye week is my broadcast

1746
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:41,679
Speaker 2: partner Eric Wood, who joins us here on Monday. Even

1747
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:44,640
Speaker 2: though there was no Bills game yesterday, Eric, hope you

1748
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 2: got a little R and R here on the little

1749
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:51,680
Speaker 2: break here over the weekend. But I imagine you watched a

1750
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 2: healthy amount of football. Nonetheless I did.

1751
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:57,679
Speaker 17: Now it was Sunday yesterday.

1752
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:00,040
Speaker 18: There was a concert here in Kentucky that my my

1753
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 18: wife wanted to go to, so we did dinner and

1754
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:05,280
Speaker 18: a concert last night. But I caught back up on

1755
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:09,840
Speaker 18: the Chiefs game against the Packers and dug into that

1756
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:13,840
Speaker 18: Eagles forty nine Ers matchup that was fun to track

1757
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 18: all the trash talking throughout the week and which really

1758
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 18: started after the playoff game last year and led up

1759
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:22,439
Speaker 18: to really a beatdown by the forty nine Ers over

1760
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:25,760
Speaker 18: the Eagles. They Eagles had two really emotional games back

1761
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 18: to back and win comeback wins.

1762
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:29,559
Speaker 17: Over the Chiefs over the Bills.

1763
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 18: I believe you said on the broadcast, Chris that they

1764
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 18: had four comebacks in a row in the second half,

1765
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 18: and so you know, the magic kind of ran out

1766
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:38,960
Speaker 18: for Philly last night, but still won a heck of

1767
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:41,679
Speaker 18: a ball club and it's pretty good football yesterday.

1768
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:43,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you look at that. You know, the Philly

1769
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:47,320
Speaker 3: San Francisco matchup was, you know, deemed to be heavyweights,

1770
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 3: but San Francisco came in and they they I mean,

1771
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:53,639
Speaker 3: they knew what we found out in Philly. I mean

1772
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:56,360
Speaker 3: without the ripple effects of what happened in the first

1773
01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 3: half of the Bills with penalties and self inflicted stuff.

1774
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 3: The Bills looked, really appeared to control that game, particularly offensively,

1775
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:08,679
Speaker 3: and the Niners came in and just absolutely beat them down.

1776
01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 3: That to me is the Niners talking a lot of

1777
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:17,760
Speaker 3: bunk coming in and leaving town with your lunch money.

1778
01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:20,599
Speaker 3: I mean, they they really did everything they could. That

1779
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:23,920
Speaker 3: really took the shine off the Philadelphia season. I mean

1780
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 3: not only I mean there's still what ten and two,

1781
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:29,240
Speaker 3: so there's not going any place except the playoffs.

1782
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:31,240
Speaker 2: But Manalyas is only a game behind him.

1783
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 3: You look at you look at what that did to

1784
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:36,840
Speaker 3: Phillies persona man. That is they took a hit.

1785
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:40,760
Speaker 18: Yeah, they did and you know, they beat Kansas City

1786
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:42,600
Speaker 18: in Kansas City and then the Bills had them on

1787
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 18: the ropes, let them off the hook. But you know,

1788
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 18: two of the better teams in the AFCU beat them

1789
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:48,880
Speaker 18: in back to back weeks. And then you know, likely

1790
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 18: the team that you're gonna have to go through in

1791
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:52,760
Speaker 18: order to get to Las Vegas to go to the

1792
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 18: Super Bowl if you're the Eagles is a forty nine ers.

1793
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:56,080
Speaker 17: So that's kind of your limmus test.

1794
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 18: You're only gonna play them one time this year, and

1795
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:00,200
Speaker 18: there was a lot of build ups to that game,

1796
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 18: and Kyle Shanahan put together a nice game plan. They

1797
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 18: attacked that Eagles defense in a lot of similar ways

1798
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:09,559
Speaker 18: that we saw the Bills attack them on the ground.

1799
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:12,200
Speaker 18: Then use play action, you could expose that second level

1800
01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:14,240
Speaker 18: of the defense. I think probably the weakest part of

1801
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 18: that whole Eagles roster is their linebackers, and the Bills

1802
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:19,200
Speaker 18: were able to attack the middle of the field against them.

1803
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:21,240
Speaker 18: They were able to run the ball against them, and

1804
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 18: San Francisco really took advantage of it. They just didn't

1805
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:26,480
Speaker 18: make the same mistakes, They didn't have the same penalties

1806
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:28,519
Speaker 18: that the Bills had. They were a little better in

1807
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:30,880
Speaker 18: the special teams game as well, and then you see

1808
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:33,559
Speaker 18: them with a convincing victory as opposed to You know,

1809
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:35,640
Speaker 18: if the Bills could have gotten up three scores like

1810
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 18: they had the opportunity in that game in Philadelphia, maybe

1811
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 18: it would have been a similar score.

1812
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:41,560
Speaker 17: Instead, we lose that game in overtime.

1813
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chiefs Packers. Last night sees the Chiefs fall by

1814
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 2: a final to twenty seven to nineteen to the Packers

1815
01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:56,879
Speaker 2: at Lambeau. What did you like about what coach Lafleur

1816
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 2: did against that Chiefs defense because he seemed to step

1817
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:02,120
Speaker 2: ahead as bagnolo for most of the night, which you

1818
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 2: don't see often.

1819
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:05,000
Speaker 17: Yeah, you're exactly right.

1820
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:08,759
Speaker 18: I thought for the most part, Jordan Love played within himself,

1821
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 18: so they ran the ball well. AJ Dillon physical back,

1822
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:14,680
Speaker 18: took it to that Chiefs defense, gave one of their

1823
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 18: linebackers a concussion on that first drive.

1824
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:17,639
Speaker 17: Of the game.

1825
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:20,439
Speaker 18: And you know, AJ Dillon has been a tone center

1826
01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:23,160
Speaker 18: this year, playing really good football for him. But they

1827
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 18: used play action well and attacked that second level of

1828
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 18: the defense and they were able to make some plays.

1829
01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 18: But Jordan Love just didn't do too much. He believe

1830
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 18: played turnover free football, and you know, they played well

1831
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:38,559
Speaker 18: and then that Chiefs offense. I mean kind of the

1832
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 18: story of this season has been. Now they have a

1833
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 18: top three defense in the league in Kansas City. But

1834
01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:46,400
Speaker 18: you know, over the years of getting rid of Tyreek

1835
01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:49,240
Speaker 18: Hill and letting these guys in the skill positions go,

1836
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 18: you know, really they've left themselves with you know, Patrick

1837
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 18: Mahomes one of the best quarterbacks of all time, Travis

1838
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:58,240
Speaker 18: Kelcey maybe the best tight end of all time. But

1839
01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 18: then it's you know Rice on the outside in Valdez,

1840
01:39:02,320 --> 01:39:06,440
Speaker 18: Scantling and sky Moore and you know, just no real playmakers,

1841
01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:10,320
Speaker 18: true playmakers at the wide receiver position. Now Rice looks

1842
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:12,400
Speaker 18: like he could be a really nice player. They get

1843
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:14,639
Speaker 18: the ball to him and a ton of screens of whatnot.

1844
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:17,880
Speaker 18: P Checko had another nice night, But to me, especially

1845
01:39:18,160 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 18: with Smith leaving the game at left tackle, they were

1846
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 18: really able to put some pressure on Mahomes in the pocket.

1847
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 17: Which will be a key.

1848
01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 18: For the Bills Sunday as they go to Kansas City,

1849
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:30,600
Speaker 18: is being able to get pressure on Mahomes with the

1850
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:32,120
Speaker 18: four man rush because you don't want to dial up

1851
01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:34,240
Speaker 18: too many blitz's against them. He's been great against the

1852
01:39:34,280 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 18: Blitz throughout his career, but especially if Smith plays, which

1853
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:40,320
Speaker 18: we'll see he left the game with the stinger right

1854
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:43,040
Speaker 18: shoulder stinger their left tackle. But if he doesn't play,

1855
01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 18: they were able to apply consistent pressure on Mahomes and

1856
01:39:46,160 --> 01:39:49,040
Speaker 18: really make it difficult on that offense throughout the game.

1857
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:51,760
Speaker 3: And as we kind of roll into this game, this

1858
01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:54,840
Speaker 3: matchup between the Chiefs and the Bills, you know, I

1859
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 3: mean Bills fans, this is like a home game for

1860
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:58,719
Speaker 3: Bills fans against the Chiefs. It's always in this stadium,

1861
01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:02,080
Speaker 3: in their stadium, so you feel some familiarity there. We've

1862
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:04,080
Speaker 3: seen it. They're two and two in that stadium in

1863
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:08,160
Speaker 3: the regular season over the Josh and Alan Pat Mahomes rivalry.

1864
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:11,320
Speaker 3: But these two teams are a little different this year.

1865
01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 3: The Bills are a little different. Certainly the Chiefs seem

1866
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:15,880
Speaker 3: a little different. How do you think this changes the

1867
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:17,559
Speaker 3: matchup and what we're going to see on Sunday.

1868
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:21,479
Speaker 18: Yeah, it is a different matchup, especially with the injuries

1869
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 18: on the defensive side of the football. You know, you

1870
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:26,800
Speaker 18: look back to last year and Matt Mlano made key

1871
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:28,040
Speaker 18: plays in.

1872
01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:30,000
Speaker 17: That regular season game. He won't be out there.

1873
01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:32,600
Speaker 18: Von Miller was healthy and he was a factor, and

1874
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:36,240
Speaker 18: you know they're just there's different faces. But I do

1875
01:40:36,479 --> 01:40:39,040
Speaker 18: like where we've seen some emergence from some guys on

1876
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:41,360
Speaker 18: the defensive side of the football. You got Threel Bernard

1877
01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:44,760
Speaker 18: playing incredible ball at linebacker, and then Dotson his you know,

1878
01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:48,479
Speaker 18: he's gotten experiences the years went on. He's playing better

1879
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:51,679
Speaker 18: as a run defender. Hopefully this secondary for the Bills

1880
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:54,680
Speaker 18: after this bye week is able to get healthier. You

1881
01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:58,320
Speaker 18: have some age and experience in that secondary that this

1882
01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:00,640
Speaker 18: late by probably didn't do a whole lot favors them

1883
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:03,320
Speaker 18: leading up into it, but should give them, you know,

1884
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:05,880
Speaker 18: kind of a recharge for this final go down the

1885
01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:09,240
Speaker 18: stretch and then up front. I've been so impressed with

1886
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:11,559
Speaker 18: ed Oliver all year, and he's gonna need to be

1887
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:14,639
Speaker 18: a factor if you can put pressure from that defensive

1888
01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:16,720
Speaker 18: tackle spot. We see it with Chris Jones on the

1889
01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:18,200
Speaker 18: other side of the ball for the Chiefs all the

1890
01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:21,280
Speaker 18: time when you can't apply pressure on quarterbacks from the

1891
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:23,479
Speaker 18: inside out, which is what ed Oliver's been doing a

1892
01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 18: lot this season. Part of the reason why A. Jevanessa

1893
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:28,559
Speaker 18: and Leonard Floyd have had such productive seasons as well.

1894
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:30,920
Speaker 18: But Ed Oliver needs to be a factor in this game.

1895
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:32,479
Speaker 18: That's why you draft him in the top ten and

1896
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 18: reward him with a contract extension. He's played great all year,

1897
01:41:35,160 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 18: but he's gonna have to be a factor. And then

1898
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:41,160
Speaker 18: offensively for the Bills, you know, with this Chiefs game,

1899
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:44,040
Speaker 18: and then moving forward in the final four games, with

1900
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 18: the injuries on the defensive side of the football, they're

1901
01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:48,760
Speaker 18: just they're gonna need to play dominant football, which they've

1902
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:51,080
Speaker 18: done the last two weeks under Joe Brady.

1903
01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:52,559
Speaker 17: This offense has looked great.

1904
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:56,000
Speaker 18: There's guys, you know two weeks ago, Shakir last week

1905
01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 18: gets Davis stepping up. We know Diggs is going to

1906
01:41:58,160 --> 01:42:00,920
Speaker 18: bring it each and every week and has emerged as

1907
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:03,400
Speaker 18: that number two target in the past game. And I'm

1908
01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:05,280
Speaker 18: great with them rolling with them as the one two

1909
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:07,280
Speaker 18: the rest of the year and then kind of see

1910
01:42:07,439 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 18: game plan wise, how you're gonna get those other weapons involved.

1911
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:14,080
Speaker 18: And then when I look at these last five games

1912
01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:17,840
Speaker 18: and you know it's gonna be cold, maybe windy in

1913
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:21,120
Speaker 18: Kansas City, you have an offensive line that's played really

1914
01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:24,760
Speaker 18: well all season, and they're completely healthy upfront. This has

1915
01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:26,559
Speaker 18: got to be a deal where the rest of the

1916
01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:30,040
Speaker 18: year we're gonna stay fairly balanced and include James Cooking

1917
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:31,880
Speaker 18: this he goes over one hundred yards from scrimmage the

1918
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:34,840
Speaker 18: last three weeks. The offensive line is blocking well. James

1919
01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:38,000
Speaker 18: Cook has one of the highest yards before contact in

1920
01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:41,639
Speaker 18: the entire NFL. That's that's good scripting by Joe Brady

1921
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:44,120
Speaker 18: and Aaron Cromer working that run game. But then also

1922
01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:46,479
Speaker 18: those big boys are opening up holes up front, and

1923
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Speaker 18: so to me, you know.

1924
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:50,160
Speaker 17: You just you got to be good.

1925
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:52,719
Speaker 18: You gotta be great offensively the rest of the season,

1926
01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:55,280
Speaker 18: and then you got to be cleaner on special teams,

1927
01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 18: you know, just cleaner, not dominant on special teams. And

1928
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:00,639
Speaker 18: look all the injuries of the defense side the football.

1929
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:03,240
Speaker 18: That affects special teams as well because it affects who's

1930
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:05,839
Speaker 18: going to be out there. Maybe they're playing on defense

1931
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 18: as well as doing special teams and all that. But

1932
01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:11,280
Speaker 18: the penalties have got to cut down in the special teams.

1933
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:13,880
Speaker 18: If Bills are going to go four and one or

1934
01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 18: five and zero down the stretch and get in the dance,

1935
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:19,480
Speaker 18: you know, special teams has got to be more consistent

1936
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:22,639
Speaker 18: and just. And that includes the kicking game. Which Martin

1937
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:24,760
Speaker 18: and Bass have been so consistent over these last couple

1938
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:28,360
Speaker 18: of years, and hopefully they can get back to their

1939
01:43:28,479 --> 01:43:31,120
Speaker 18: normal ways here down this last stretch.

1940
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Speaker 2: You mentioned, you know, drawing it up in scheme and

1941
01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:36,880
Speaker 2: all of that stuff, Eric coming off the by and

1942
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:42,160
Speaker 2: some undoubted self scouting. You know, John McDermott in his

1943
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:44,120
Speaker 2: tenure as head coach of the Bills is six and

1944
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:46,639
Speaker 2: oh coming out of the buy. This is the first

1945
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 2: game after the bye on the road though in the

1946
01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:51,599
Speaker 2: McDermott era, which obviously makes it a little bit different,

1947
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:54,559
Speaker 2: especially when that venue is Arrowhead. But what do you

1948
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:57,680
Speaker 2: think is realistic for fans to expect in terms of

1949
01:43:57,760 --> 01:44:02,040
Speaker 2: wrinkles from the Bills with the extra time prepare you know?

1950
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:05,360
Speaker 18: Offensively, you kind of got a new scheme already with

1951
01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:08,160
Speaker 18: Joe Brady taking over in some different nuances with the

1952
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:11,559
Speaker 18: motions and whatnot. I don't know how much different we're

1953
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:13,760
Speaker 18: gonna be able to tell, because it already has kind

1954
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:16,080
Speaker 18: of felt different these last couple of weeks on the

1955
01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 18: defensive side of the football. You know, to me, you

1956
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:23,720
Speaker 18: know it's it's gonna be the same, similar schemes. I'm

1957
01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:25,760
Speaker 18: sure they went back and saw what hurt them at

1958
01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:27,840
Speaker 18: some of the ends of games, whether that was at

1959
01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:31,440
Speaker 18: times maybe being too passive, maybe at times being too aggressive.

1960
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:34,439
Speaker 18: When you look at especially these next couple of weeks,

1961
01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 18: and even if you include Herbert following Dak and Mahomes,

1962
01:44:38,680 --> 01:44:42,040
Speaker 18: you know, defensively, it's gonna really help you if your

1963
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:44,280
Speaker 18: offense can score points and put a little pressure on

1964
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:46,880
Speaker 18: the opponent's offense to keep the ball in the air,

1965
01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:49,559
Speaker 18: maybe be more one dimensional in the past game, and

1966
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 18: then those guys up front have got to win. You know,

1967
01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:55,760
Speaker 18: this is the time of year where you know the

1968
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:58,840
Speaker 18: teams that are emerging when on the offensive line, in

1969
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:02,760
Speaker 18: the defensive line, and in this defensive line is talented enough.

1970
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:07,200
Speaker 18: I mean, give me Rousseau, Eppanessa, Oliver and Floyd on

1971
01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:11,960
Speaker 18: pass downs, and I like that for man pass rush

1972
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:13,920
Speaker 18: a lot at this point. I like it better than

1973
01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 18: even some years in the past where the Bills have

1974
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:18,920
Speaker 18: had a top three statistic defense at.

1975
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:19,759
Speaker 17: This point of the season.

1976
01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:22,520
Speaker 18: And so, you know, I don't know that it's necessarily

1977
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:26,599
Speaker 18: a wrinkle, but you're identifying maybe some key guys now

1978
01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:28,720
Speaker 18: that you have a lot of confidence in, you know,

1979
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 18: moving down this final stretch, and you know, and as

1980
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:34,919
Speaker 18: they get healthier in the secondary, does it stay Benford

1981
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:37,599
Speaker 18: and Douglas on the outside? I would imagine, So does

1982
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 18: Dan Jackson get worked back in? Does is Taylor Rapper

1983
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:43,080
Speaker 18: be able to come back? And they get into those

1984
01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:46,400
Speaker 18: dime packages as well. But when the Bills were healthy

1985
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:49,200
Speaker 18: and healthier in the secondary and able to run that

1986
01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:52,760
Speaker 18: true dime package, I got pretty excited about, you know,

1987
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:55,639
Speaker 18: seeing how that would work, you know, looking out even

1988
01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:57,880
Speaker 18: to this Kansas City game when they first put it in.

1989
01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:00,960
Speaker 3: So we got this this Bills team coming into Kansas City,

1990
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:03,160
Speaker 3: and it seems to me, and you're probably the perfect

1991
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:06,400
Speaker 3: guy to ask about this very quiet I guess, a

1992
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:09,479
Speaker 3: little quietly, the Bill's offensive line, to me, have been

1993
01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:11,719
Speaker 3: playing at a high level. I mean all throughout the season.

1994
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 3: Their running game seems to be clicking the way they

1995
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 3: want it to. Josh he's always been hard to sack,

1996
01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:21,800
Speaker 3: but he's also been protected in the pocket. I just

1997
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:23,479
Speaker 3: think the offensive line of the Bills has been playing

1998
01:46:23,479 --> 01:46:26,160
Speaker 3: at a really high level. And sometimes I don't know,

1999
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 3: because nobody's talking about them, maybe that's the sign that

2000
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 3: I'm looking at that says they are playing well. What

2001
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:34,800
Speaker 3: are your thoughts about the way they're playing and their

2002
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 3: strengths and weaknesses right now.

2003
01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:40,760
Speaker 18: Yeah, I sat down with a couple of former Bill

2004
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:42,479
Speaker 18: z o linemen and we hopped on my Center on

2005
01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:45,960
Speaker 18: Buffalo podcast last week shameless plug there, but we had

2006
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:48,000
Speaker 18: about an hour long discussion that I can't get into

2007
01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:50,360
Speaker 18: all the ins and outs of it, but the way

2008
01:46:50,479 --> 01:46:53,519
Speaker 18: this Bill's offensive line one's been able to stay healthy,

2009
01:46:54,160 --> 01:46:56,439
Speaker 18: but they even have depth at this point with Bates

2010
01:46:56,520 --> 01:47:00,200
Speaker 18: and Andrews. I like the young tackles as well. Like,

2011
01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:03,639
Speaker 18: this is a very good offensive line. And I've defended

2012
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:06,120
Speaker 18: them for years and said, look, at times the Bills

2013
01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:08,120
Speaker 18: offensive line isn't going to look quite as good as

2014
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:10,760
Speaker 18: others because of their rate of drop back passes and

2015
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 18: allows teams to be able to tee off on them.

2016
01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:15,960
Speaker 18: But I feel like, especially in these last couple of games,

2017
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:18,840
Speaker 18: but even throughout this season, they've stayed balanced enough in

2018
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:21,519
Speaker 18: the run game to really help them out pass protection wise.

2019
01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:24,599
Speaker 17: And I've just I've liked what I've seen from him.

2020
01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:25,639
Speaker 17: Dion Dawkins.

2021
01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:29,040
Speaker 18: The way he pulls from his left tackle spot is remarkable.

2022
01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:30,640
Speaker 18: There's not a lot of guys in the league that

2023
01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:32,160
Speaker 18: can do it. We take it for grant because we've

2024
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 18: seen it for years from Dion. But and I was

2025
01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:36,599
Speaker 18: texting with him last week and told him, I hope

2026
01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:38,599
Speaker 18: he had a you know, has a great bye week

2027
01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:41,240
Speaker 18: and gets recharged and all that. And I said, hey,

2028
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:43,920
Speaker 18: and you're you're going next level on these pools right now.

2029
01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:45,600
Speaker 18: He said, dude, I'm loving it and I'm having so

2030
01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:47,360
Speaker 18: much fun with it. And you know, that kind of

2031
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:50,479
Speaker 18: shows the personality of Dion. But then you have Spencer

2032
01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:52,599
Speaker 18: Brown at right tackle that I really feel like stepping

2033
01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:54,840
Speaker 18: into his own this year. He's using his size his

2034
01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:58,120
Speaker 18: length really well on the edge, and I think part

2035
01:47:58,120 --> 01:48:00,559
Speaker 18: of it is he's he's healthy now. When you're when

2036
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:03,400
Speaker 18: you're six foot eight and over three hundred pounds of

2037
01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:05,680
Speaker 18: dealing with a bad back and you're not able to

2038
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:09,000
Speaker 18: train consistently, it's tough out there. And then on the interior,

2039
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:12,120
Speaker 18: Mitch Morris is having another really good season. Connor McGovern

2040
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:14,400
Speaker 18: has been steady all year at left guard. I feel

2041
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:16,680
Speaker 18: like we haven't talked about him and that's generally a

2042
01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:19,839
Speaker 18: good thing. And then Osiris Torres. Even against the Eagles,

2043
01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:21,920
Speaker 18: he has a few rough plays in the game, but

2044
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:24,679
Speaker 18: that's gonna happen in the rookie year. You're still learning

2045
01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:27,599
Speaker 18: up there, but I've really liked what I've seen from him,

2046
01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:31,000
Speaker 18: and from a size and strength standpoint, the way he

2047
01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:34,559
Speaker 18: can hold his ground in the pocket. That allows a

2048
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:36,479
Speaker 18: little more flexibility for the tackles to be able to

2049
01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:40,120
Speaker 18: run those guys behind behind the quarterback, and then also

2050
01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:43,320
Speaker 18: gives Josh Allen a place to step up to knowing

2051
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:45,840
Speaker 18: that he's got a three hundred and forty five pound

2052
01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:48,800
Speaker 18: guard that's rarely moving back in the pocket. So I've

2053
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:51,360
Speaker 18: been super impressed with them this season, and I think

2054
01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:55,160
Speaker 18: the combination of them in James Cook developing his vision

2055
01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:59,679
Speaker 18: and his patience and it's timing has made this run

2056
01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:03,360
Speaker 18: game something that teams have to take very seriously when

2057
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:05,519
Speaker 18: you're playing against the Bills. I mean, this should show

2058
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:07,479
Speaker 18: you a lot about what the Bills feel about their

2059
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:10,559
Speaker 18: run game right now. They go on that long drive

2060
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:14,720
Speaker 18: fourth quarter against Philadelphia and I believe ran the ball

2061
01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:16,760
Speaker 18: maybe Josh scrambled on a run, so it wasn't a

2062
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:19,040
Speaker 18: true it wasn't actually a pass the tep that end

2063
01:49:19,120 --> 01:49:21,160
Speaker 18: up being a run. But they ran the ball about

2064
01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:24,240
Speaker 18: eight times in a row, including the Josh Scramble. I mean,

2065
01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:26,880
Speaker 18: that shows you how confident they are in those big

2066
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:28,519
Speaker 18: boys up front with the game on the line.

2067
01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:32,599
Speaker 2: Last one I've got for you, Eric concerns the conference race.

2068
01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:36,479
Speaker 2: The Bills got some help yesterday with the Texans beating

2069
01:49:36,520 --> 01:49:39,760
Speaker 2: the Broncos. Browns and Steelers both lose as well to

2070
01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:43,400
Speaker 2: fall to seven and five. We know the Dolphins and

2071
01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 2: Colts won, which obviously doesn't help, but you can't have

2072
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:47,759
Speaker 2: a clean sweep, especially with a lot of these teams

2073
01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:52,960
Speaker 2: playing one another. But I'm curious where you come down

2074
01:49:53,000 --> 01:49:55,400
Speaker 2: on this. I've kind of maintained with where the Bills

2075
01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:58,840
Speaker 2: are the Division is still the best route to the playoffs,

2076
01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 2: but it wouldn't it wouldn't be a bad thing if

2077
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:05,840
Speaker 2: the wild card becomes an option also. But with that

2078
01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 2: three and five conference record, they've got a lot of

2079
01:50:08,479 --> 01:50:10,719
Speaker 2: work to do, certainly more than they would in the division.

2080
01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:13,679
Speaker 17: It would seem yeah, yeah, I think so.

2081
01:50:13,720 --> 01:50:16,960
Speaker 18: And so you have one against Miami still left, and

2082
01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:19,080
Speaker 18: if you can get that one, then you pick up

2083
01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:22,120
Speaker 18: a full game there and you're still down what a

2084
01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:23,479
Speaker 18: game and a half to them, because if you do

2085
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:26,000
Speaker 18: push them, then you'd win the tiebreaker with two wins

2086
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:28,439
Speaker 18: over them. But you know, as I look at the

2087
01:50:28,479 --> 01:50:32,720
Speaker 18: wild card scenario with Kenny Pickett get injured now for Pittsburgh,

2088
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:36,880
Speaker 18: Deshaun Watson's out for the season Indianapolis, I'm not sure

2089
01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:40,040
Speaker 18: if I can trust them or not yet. Houston to

2090
01:50:40,120 --> 01:50:42,840
Speaker 18: me is about as fun as anyone to watch in

2091
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:46,000
Speaker 18: the NFL right now. But you know, does CJ. Stroud

2092
01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:48,479
Speaker 18: regress a little bit here towards the end of the season.

2093
01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:50,360
Speaker 18: You know, I think there's a lot of hope for

2094
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:53,320
Speaker 18: the Bills if they're able to win four games here

2095
01:50:53,479 --> 01:50:56,519
Speaker 18: down the stretch and get the ten wins that maybe

2096
01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 18: some of those others that are in contentent or even

2097
01:50:59,120 --> 01:51:01,479
Speaker 18: sitting in the wildcard spots right now will kind of

2098
01:51:01,479 --> 01:51:06,680
Speaker 18: trickle out of the picture. Miami's remaining schedule, you know,

2099
01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:09,120
Speaker 18: they could. It's a week to week league in the NFL.

2100
01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:11,680
Speaker 18: You see each and every week, you see upsets or

2101
01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:14,840
Speaker 18: what we perceive as upsets each week. But you know,

2102
01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:17,320
Speaker 18: when you look at their games down the stretch, they

2103
01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:19,800
Speaker 18: have three tough ones at the end, but I don't

2104
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:22,120
Speaker 18: see them losing to the Titans or Jets either of

2105
01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:25,400
Speaker 18: these next two weeks. And then obviously at home against Dallas,

2106
01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:28,439
Speaker 18: they go on the road to Baltimore and then that

2107
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:31,080
Speaker 18: week eighteen one could be a whole lot of fun

2108
01:51:32,160 --> 01:51:34,040
Speaker 18: if the Bills are able to take care of business.

2109
01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:36,960
Speaker 2: All right, Eric, thanks as always for the insight. We

2110
01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:38,880
Speaker 2: appreciate it. We'll catch up with you at the end

2111
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:39,320
Speaker 2: of the week.

2112
01:51:40,360 --> 01:51:41,719
Speaker 17: Sounds good. Looking forward to you guys.

2113
01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:44,320
Speaker 2: Thanks all right. That's Eric Wood, Bills radio color analyst

2114
01:51:44,760 --> 01:51:49,640
Speaker 2: and also host of the Centered on Buffalo podcast that

2115
01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:53,760
Speaker 2: he has each end every week. We got to get

2116
01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:55,920
Speaker 2: back to the phones at eight oh three, five fifty

2117
01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:58,439
Speaker 2: one eighty eight, five fifty two, five fifty where some

2118
01:51:58,479 --> 01:52:02,160
Speaker 2: people have been waiting patiently and we go to gym

2119
01:52:02,200 --> 01:52:04,080
Speaker 2: in Lockport. Next. What do you got for is Jim,

2120
01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:05,080
Speaker 2: you're on one Bill's Live.

2121
01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:09,960
Speaker 19: Yeah, just talking about refereeing and you know, I kind

2122
01:52:09,960 --> 01:52:13,160
Speaker 19: of related to hockey, you know, or you know hockey.

2123
01:52:13,240 --> 01:52:15,599
Speaker 19: You watch hockey and these raps you see.

2124
01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:18,799
Speaker 4: That they kind of you know, they look at you know, hey, maybe.

2125
01:52:18,560 --> 01:52:20,960
Speaker 19: This team's got three pounds least a lot of times

2126
01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:22,840
Speaker 19: you watch them games and the tin leiues even up.

2127
01:52:23,400 --> 01:52:26,280
Speaker 19: But they don't kind of do that in football, And

2128
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:28,920
Speaker 19: I don't know it just kind of takes a fan

2129
01:52:29,120 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 19: as a fan, It takes out of the game. You

2130
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:33,599
Speaker 19: watch these games and you know game's going good. Then

2131
01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:35,960
Speaker 19: you see these calls are being made and you're like, man,

2132
01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:40,639
Speaker 19: it's kind of ridiculous. But another question I had too

2133
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:45,760
Speaker 19: is what's going on with Hines and also Fournette. Are

2134
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:47,360
Speaker 19: they going to ever put this guy in use for?

2135
01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:50,160
Speaker 19: They're just going to keep him on the bench. I

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Speaker 19: appreciate your comments.

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Speaker 2: Thinks yeah, sure things, Jim. Look, I get it as

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01:52:53,439 --> 01:52:55,400
Speaker 2: much as you do. When bad calls are made, you

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01:52:55,439 --> 01:52:58,160
Speaker 2: feel like something's being taken from your team that you're

2140
01:52:58,200 --> 01:53:01,400
Speaker 2: rooting for. That's why I say the way I go

2141
01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:06,880
Speaker 2: into games is expecting bad calls by officials. And when

2142
01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:09,280
Speaker 2: I do that, I find that I can stomach them

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01:53:09,439 --> 01:53:12,840
Speaker 2: at least a little bit better. So maybe that's a

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01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:14,960
Speaker 2: way to go. Because there are gonna be bad calls

2145
01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:19,160
Speaker 2: every week. We've seen it. It's permeating the league. Bills

2146
01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:21,000
Speaker 2: weren't playing this week. We saw a lot of teams

2147
01:53:21,000 --> 01:53:23,799
Speaker 2: get hosed on some bad calls this week. It's happening

2148
01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:28,920
Speaker 2: to everybody. As for you know the other stuff that

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01:53:28,960 --> 01:53:32,479
Speaker 2: you're referencing with regard to nahem Hines. He's out for

2150
01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:35,920
Speaker 2: the year. He's not going to be playing this season,

2151
01:53:36,400 --> 01:53:40,559
Speaker 2: simple as that had an unfortunate jet skiing accident which

2152
01:53:40,640 --> 01:53:43,880
Speaker 2: was not his fault, and lost a season of his

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01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:46,000
Speaker 2: career because of it.

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01:53:44,960 --> 01:53:49,639
Speaker 3: He was fueling up his jet ski I guess idling, Yeah,

2155
01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:51,960
Speaker 3: and somebody crashed into him so.

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01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:53,800
Speaker 2: At a high rate of speed. I mean, he's lucky

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01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:55,040
Speaker 2: he's alive, quite frankly.

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01:53:55,120 --> 01:53:57,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it had nothing to do with him being irresponsible

2159
01:53:58,040 --> 01:54:01,240
Speaker 3: or anthing like that. It was somebody else a bad situation.

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01:54:01,760 --> 01:54:05,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, And we've talked about for Nattie's an insurance policy.

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01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:06,000
Speaker 2: That's right.

2162
01:54:06,040 --> 01:54:10,599
Speaker 3: And don't yeah, don't get into trying to equate NHL

2163
01:54:10,720 --> 01:54:15,479
Speaker 3: refereeing with NFL refereing or NBA refereeing or hockey kind

2164
01:54:15,479 --> 01:54:19,680
Speaker 3: of stands alone in the way they handle their ref officiating.

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01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:26,000
Speaker 3: They'll even tell you've had you've had credible national reports

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01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 3: and NHL executives say, listen something. The hockey refs are

2167
01:54:31,280 --> 01:54:34,240
Speaker 3: there to manage the game, not call the rules. They

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01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:37,960
Speaker 3: have game managers as referees. They manage it and try

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01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:40,240
Speaker 3: and get the game through it. And they don't even

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01:54:40,280 --> 01:54:43,080
Speaker 3: and they absolutely the league actually trumpets. The fact that

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01:54:43,120 --> 01:54:47,560
Speaker 3: they expect officials to call games differently in the third

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01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:49,880
Speaker 3: period and overtime than they do in the first period.

2173
01:54:50,680 --> 01:54:56,240
Speaker 3: It's it's a conversation that is open and they just

2174
01:54:56,360 --> 01:54:59,320
Speaker 3: shrug their shoulders and move on with it. The NFL

2175
01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:03,720
Speaker 3: is not that, And believe.

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01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:07,960
Speaker 2: Me, they will demote officials. They do not these officials.

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01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:10,560
Speaker 3: These officials are paid to get If you've messed this

2178
01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:13,880
Speaker 3: last call up, there is no even Stephen makeup call

2179
01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:16,000
Speaker 3: anything like that. The next one get it right, no

2180
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:20,440
Speaker 3: matter what. That's their mentality. And I go on here

2181
01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:22,040
Speaker 3: all the time and I kind of stick up for

2182
01:55:22,080 --> 01:55:24,400
Speaker 3: the policy or whatever. All I know is this. I

2183
01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:26,640
Speaker 3: know they really commit a lot of effort, a lot

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01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:31,200
Speaker 3: of resources, and they try to get it elevated as

2185
01:55:31,240 --> 01:55:33,480
Speaker 3: fast as the game has elevated. It's difficult, it's a

2186
01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:36,760
Speaker 3: big challenge. It's a big challenge, but they do not

2187
01:55:36,880 --> 01:55:40,800
Speaker 3: take it seriously. And there's no like just sloughing off

2188
01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:42,960
Speaker 3: how important it is to the game and the integrity

2189
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:46,839
Speaker 3: of the game. So that's the NFL is light years

2190
01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:50,080
Speaker 3: in a different path than the NHL. And I couldn't

2191
01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:51,160
Speaker 3: speak to the NBA.

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Speaker 2: Back to the phones and to Scott in Williamsville next,

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01:55:54,680 --> 01:55:56,400
Speaker 2: what you got for a Scott?

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Speaker 20: I just have my answer to your question, and then

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01:56:00,760 --> 01:56:03,760
Speaker 20: I just have a quick question of you guys. As

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01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:08,320
Speaker 20: as it sounds, I almost for the Bills record. I

2197
01:56:08,320 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 20: almost would have wished Casey had won last night. It's

2198
01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:15,960
Speaker 20: just so hard to see them lose and then come

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01:56:16,040 --> 01:56:18,880
Speaker 20: back to Arrowhead. I think we're going to get their

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01:56:19,880 --> 01:56:24,400
Speaker 20: toughest game, and you know, should Jacksonville should win tonight,

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Speaker 20: they go to I guess nine and three, and then

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01:56:28,280 --> 01:56:31,560
Speaker 20: the Casey's will be one game behind for the conference.

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01:56:31,640 --> 01:56:36,520
Speaker 20: But that's my question or my answer, and I just

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01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:45,440
Speaker 20: had a question. Given the horrific audio and pictures and

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01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:49,600
Speaker 20: disgusting charge of a felony, do you think that von

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01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:53,720
Speaker 20: Miller should be inactive for after being arrested for this

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01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:54,360
Speaker 20: week's game.

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01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:57,760
Speaker 3: That's it's an interesting question about Vaughan. I don't know

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01:56:57,800 --> 01:57:01,400
Speaker 3: it is. It's really distasteful. We obviously don't want to

2210
01:57:01,400 --> 01:57:06,120
Speaker 3: talk about it too much here for obvious reasons. But yeah,

2211
01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:08,480
Speaker 3: if something like that happens, you've got to answer for it,

2212
01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:11,360
Speaker 3: and he will, depending on the time. The time frame

2213
01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:13,360
Speaker 3: is one thing. When is gonna happen, how it's gonna happen.

2214
01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:15,400
Speaker 3: We don't know any of that. Yeah, so it's it's

2215
01:57:15,720 --> 01:57:17,880
Speaker 3: and it's not our decision to Yeah, it's gold irresponsible

2216
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:19,320
Speaker 3: for me and Brownie to come in here and spewed

2217
01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:21,640
Speaker 3: all these pontifications about what's happening with Vaughn when we

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01:57:21,680 --> 01:57:25,040
Speaker 3: don't really know anything. So that's that. As far as

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01:57:25,080 --> 01:57:29,120
Speaker 3: the Kansas City game coming in off off a loss, Listen,

2220
01:57:29,160 --> 01:57:31,200
Speaker 3: we all said, hey, we're getting a break because Philly

2221
01:57:31,240 --> 01:57:33,240
Speaker 3: won the game before they played Buffalo. Now they're going

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01:57:33,320 --> 01:57:35,640
Speaker 3: to be complacent and stuff, and it it didn't work

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01:57:35,680 --> 01:57:38,840
Speaker 3: that way. So I'm yes, there's a little something in it,

2224
01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:41,960
Speaker 3: but maybe not as much as we think. Uh, Kansas

2225
01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:46,400
Speaker 3: City getting beat just makes you maybe feel like more

2226
01:57:46,400 --> 01:57:49,960
Speaker 3: confident about your fact that you can replicate what the

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01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:51,480
Speaker 3: Green Bay Packers did to them.

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01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:55,680
Speaker 2: Yes, but his point is well taken. The Chiefs have

2229
01:57:55,760 --> 01:57:58,400
Speaker 2: not lost back to back games this season. They have

2230
01:57:58,560 --> 01:58:02,360
Speaker 2: traded wins for a lot losses however, each of the

2231
01:58:02,440 --> 01:58:07,520
Speaker 2: last six weeks, so they're kind of suffering from something

2232
01:58:07,600 --> 01:58:10,520
Speaker 2: similar to what the Bills dealt with for about six

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01:58:10,600 --> 01:58:13,560
Speaker 2: seven weeks themselves. So maybe they're in this stretch where

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01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:15,200
Speaker 2: they're in a little bit of a lull as well.

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01:58:15,800 --> 01:58:18,320
Speaker 2: And eventually the Bills did lose back to back games,

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01:58:18,760 --> 01:58:20,720
Speaker 2: So maybe that's where the Chiefs are at this point

2237
01:58:20,720 --> 01:58:24,400
Speaker 2: in time. We'll have to see and we'll find out

2238
01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:27,160
Speaker 2: when we get to Sunday. Got to take a break here.

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01:58:27,200 --> 01:58:29,160
Speaker 2: When we come back more of your phone calls. We'll

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Speaker 2: lead off with Anthony and Tonawanda when we return here

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Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo

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01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:51,240
Speaker 2: Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live.

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01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:54,160
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and we want to

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01:58:54,200 --> 01:58:56,360
Speaker 2: get right back to the phones here as we're checking

2245
01:58:56,360 --> 01:58:58,880
Speaker 2: in with you. See what kind of Chiefs team you're

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01:58:58,920 --> 01:59:01,440
Speaker 2: expecting for the Bills on Sunday after their Sunday Night

2247
01:59:01,480 --> 01:59:06,120
Speaker 2: football loss to the Packers at Lambeau. And as promised,

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01:59:06,120 --> 01:59:08,840
Speaker 2: we lead off here with Anthony in Tanawanda. What do

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01:59:08,840 --> 01:59:09,680
Speaker 2: you got for as Anthony?

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Speaker 21: Hey, guys, how are you doing today?

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01:59:13,160 --> 01:59:16,320
Speaker 2: We're hanging in there, man, Yeah, me too.

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01:59:16,200 --> 01:59:20,120
Speaker 21: Me too, Monday Blues. I got a couple of points

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01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:23,320
Speaker 21: here that I want to make. I've been listening for

2254
01:59:23,400 --> 01:59:26,480
Speaker 21: the past couple of weeks on you know, Monday mornings,

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01:59:26,520 --> 01:59:30,440
Speaker 21: Tuesday mornings following the games and such. In my opinion,

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01:59:31,240 --> 01:59:35,760
Speaker 21: stats to thirty two yards Allen's thrown completed, I want

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01:59:35,760 --> 01:59:39,160
Speaker 21: to say three hundred and thirty six passes some along

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01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:41,720
Speaker 21: lines to that, It's like sixty eight percent passing. I

2259
01:59:41,760 --> 01:59:44,280
Speaker 21: don't think his shoulders an issue or anything like that.

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01:59:46,560 --> 01:59:48,640
Speaker 21: And I feel like a lot of people are throwing

2261
01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:51,720
Speaker 21: a lot of pain onto Josh Allen and this team

2262
01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:58,400
Speaker 21: in general. The record obviously does not decipher offense to

2263
01:59:58,480 --> 02:00:01,160
Speaker 21: defense wise, the defense to not deserved the record that

2264
02:00:01,160 --> 02:00:03,720
Speaker 21: they have now with all the injuries that have, you know,

2265
02:00:03,800 --> 02:00:07,720
Speaker 21: kind of plagued the Bills, uh in itself. My two

2266
02:00:07,760 --> 02:00:11,120
Speaker 21: things are, I feel like we lost our identity. I mean,

2267
02:00:11,480 --> 02:00:13,800
Speaker 21: the Bills used to be a really good team stopping

2268
02:00:13,840 --> 02:00:16,720
Speaker 21: the run, Mark down lynch Era. I mean, I feel

2269
02:00:16,720 --> 02:00:19,920
Speaker 21: like we have no identity. We can't stop a nosebleed.

2270
02:00:20,360 --> 02:00:24,160
Speaker 21: And as far as Kansas City goes, Isaiah Pistil or

2271
02:00:24,160 --> 02:00:26,480
Speaker 21: if I'm pronouncing his last name correctly, the guy is

2272
02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:29,640
Speaker 21: an animal. He's gonna tote the ball fifteen to twenty

2273
02:00:29,920 --> 02:00:33,280
Speaker 21: twenty times this upcoming game. With that and with that,

2274
02:00:33,360 --> 02:00:37,040
Speaker 21: in mine that's half the offense. I mean with him himself,

2275
02:00:37,040 --> 02:00:39,120
Speaker 21: that's almost the whole quarter and a half of football

2276
02:00:39,320 --> 02:00:42,080
Speaker 21: just him toting the ball then getting set to the

2277
02:00:42,120 --> 02:00:44,680
Speaker 21: next you know, for the next play. So with all this,

2278
02:00:44,840 --> 02:00:49,200
Speaker 21: knowing that these teams are gonna key on and with

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02:00:49,280 --> 02:00:51,800
Speaker 21: the Bills itself, how are you going to stop the

2280
02:00:51,880 --> 02:00:55,000
Speaker 21: run because it seems like time and time again we can't.

2281
02:00:55,600 --> 02:00:58,280
Speaker 21: And I just I'm like, how kind of want your

2282
02:00:58,280 --> 02:01:01,360
Speaker 21: opinion as far the run game for the Bills? And

2283
02:01:01,760 --> 02:01:05,080
Speaker 21: you know is McDermott is the guy for us? I mean,

2284
02:01:05,440 --> 02:01:08,720
Speaker 21: we just got rid of our OC mid season and

2285
02:01:08,800 --> 02:01:13,000
Speaker 21: I truly believed in my opinion, you know, well back

2286
02:01:13,040 --> 02:01:15,640
Speaker 21: to the Greg Roman era, even though we fired our

2287
02:01:15,680 --> 02:01:18,280
Speaker 21: OC during that time. Well, we're not going to get

2288
02:01:18,360 --> 02:01:22,000
Speaker 21: rid of our head coach too. So you be mind

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02:01:22,280 --> 02:01:24,880
Speaker 21: chiming into from you guys that be appreciated, take it

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02:01:24,920 --> 02:01:26,840
Speaker 21: easy then, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: A lot of stuff there you want to start seeing.

2292
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you're right, the Bills are not the same

2293
02:01:31,680 --> 02:01:35,000
Speaker 3: run defense they've been in years past. They're ranked twentieth

2294
02:01:35,040 --> 02:01:39,720
Speaker 3: against the run per game, twenty ninth per play. They're

2295
02:01:39,760 --> 02:01:42,960
Speaker 3: in the top ten in yards passing per game, given up.

2296
02:01:43,920 --> 02:01:49,720
Speaker 3: So there's something in there, no question. I think most

2297
02:01:49,760 --> 02:01:52,640
Speaker 3: of the problems that the Bills have faced have have,

2298
02:01:52,880 --> 02:01:55,560
Speaker 3: like you said, been due to the injuries they sustained

2299
02:01:55,600 --> 02:01:59,880
Speaker 3: to some key spots and then a chronic in a

2300
02:02:00,480 --> 02:02:03,600
Speaker 3: to keep high level talent on the edges on the field.

2301
02:02:05,960 --> 02:02:09,000
Speaker 3: You know, they miss Tray White, they miss Benford when

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02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:11,560
Speaker 3: he's not in there, they miss Dame Jackson when he's

2303
02:02:11,600 --> 02:02:16,520
Speaker 3: not in there. They have been struggling, I think a

2304
02:02:16,520 --> 02:02:19,520
Speaker 3: little bit in man coverage of late, and that puts

2305
02:02:19,600 --> 02:02:22,080
Speaker 3: him in a bind when you get up against teams

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02:02:22,120 --> 02:02:23,960
Speaker 3: that have got some guys on the edges that can

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02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:27,480
Speaker 3: really go. It translates itself in a number of different

2308
02:02:27,480 --> 02:02:29,720
Speaker 3: ways depending on who you're playing with. This run game

2309
02:02:29,760 --> 02:02:34,000
Speaker 3: stuff that you're talking about. But yeah, Pacheco is a

2310
02:02:34,040 --> 02:02:36,200
Speaker 3: really good Browning I've been talking about on the whole show.

2311
02:02:36,400 --> 02:02:39,440
Speaker 3: He's a really good running back man. The guy runs

2312
02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:43,880
Speaker 3: hard and angry and gets yards that are coming to him.

2313
02:02:43,920 --> 02:02:47,280
Speaker 3: He runs every play like it's a two point conversion

2314
02:02:47,440 --> 02:02:49,320
Speaker 3: with no time on the clock to win the game.

2315
02:02:49,680 --> 02:02:51,840
Speaker 3: He runs every play like that, and you got to

2316
02:02:51,880 --> 02:02:53,920
Speaker 3: tip your hat to him. So, yes, that is the

2317
02:02:54,040 --> 02:02:56,560
Speaker 3: challenge for the Buffalo Bills to take him away and

2318
02:02:56,640 --> 02:02:59,600
Speaker 3: their entire run game away and put this back on

2319
02:02:59,720 --> 02:03:03,040
Speaker 3: Mahonme Holmes and what has to be considered the worst

2320
02:03:03,040 --> 02:03:05,640
Speaker 3: cast of characters around him he's ever played with. You

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02:03:05,680 --> 02:03:09,560
Speaker 3: give him a Travis Kelcey who is eight years older

2322
02:03:09,560 --> 02:03:13,400
Speaker 3: than when Mahomes started playing, and you get a bunch

2323
02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:15,720
Speaker 3: of guys that you know a lot of it with

2324
02:03:15,880 --> 02:03:19,520
Speaker 3: Rice and Tony and you know those guys. There's some

2325
02:03:19,520 --> 02:03:24,160
Speaker 3: guys there that are not tyreek Hill, and that's an

2326
02:03:24,200 --> 02:03:26,000
Speaker 3: uphill battle for the Chiefs that they haven't had to

2327
02:03:26,000 --> 02:03:29,800
Speaker 3: fight before. So the guys they have around Pat at

2328
02:03:29,840 --> 02:03:34,160
Speaker 3: the skill positions Pat Pat, Mahomes and Travis Kelcey are

2329
02:03:34,200 --> 02:03:36,160
Speaker 3: not as good as what they've had in the past

2330
02:03:36,280 --> 02:03:37,680
Speaker 3: save Pacheco.

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02:03:37,800 --> 02:03:41,600
Speaker 2: And I'll just say that Buffalo's run defense over the

2332
02:03:41,680 --> 02:03:47,840
Speaker 2: last month has been pretty good. It's been good for

2333
02:03:48,200 --> 02:03:54,520
Speaker 2: I think you could argue fourteen quarters until the last

2334
02:03:54,520 --> 02:03:58,120
Speaker 2: two quarters against Philly when they had success in the

2335
02:03:58,160 --> 02:04:01,600
Speaker 2: second half, Buffalo a pretty nice job against the run.

2336
02:04:01,960 --> 02:04:04,440
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, in the three games prior,

2337
02:04:05,040 --> 02:04:06,920
Speaker 2: the opponent didn't average more than three and a half

2338
02:04:07,040 --> 02:04:10,640
Speaker 2: yards of carry As a team, that's the Jets, the Broncos,

2339
02:04:10,640 --> 02:04:15,360
Speaker 2: and Cincinnati. Three point five against the Jets, three point

2340
02:04:15,440 --> 02:04:17,960
Speaker 2: two against Denver, two point five yards per carry against

2341
02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:22,440
Speaker 2: Joe Mixon and the Bengals. So I don't think the

2342
02:04:22,520 --> 02:04:26,240
Speaker 2: run defense has been a major issue. It was in

2343
02:04:26,360 --> 02:04:28,520
Speaker 2: the second half against the Eagles. I don't think there's

2344
02:04:28,520 --> 02:04:32,000
Speaker 2: any debate about that, but it hasn't been a consistent problem.

2345
02:04:32,200 --> 02:04:34,320
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean they're going to walk into Kansas City

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02:04:34,320 --> 02:04:38,840
Speaker 2: and stone Isaiah Pacheco, but at least there's been some

2347
02:04:39,120 --> 02:04:45,080
Speaker 2: semblance of performance in that area by Buffalo's defensive front,

2348
02:04:45,120 --> 02:04:49,120
Speaker 2: and you certainly hope it will continue. So I'm very

2349
02:04:49,120 --> 02:04:53,320
Speaker 2: curious to see what the Chiefs approach is offensively, if

2350
02:04:53,320 --> 02:04:55,920
Speaker 2: they try to start it off with Pacheco and then

2351
02:04:56,000 --> 02:04:58,720
Speaker 2: try to diversify off that with their pass game, or

2352
02:04:58,800 --> 02:05:00,920
Speaker 2: if they go the other way. Because the Eagles tried

2353
02:05:00,960 --> 02:05:02,320
Speaker 2: to throw the ball at the beginning of the game

2354
02:05:02,800 --> 02:05:05,200
Speaker 2: against the Bills and it did not work. Jalen Hurts

2355
02:05:05,240 --> 02:05:07,160
Speaker 2: looked as most uncomfortable as I've ever seen him at

2356
02:05:07,160 --> 02:05:10,080
Speaker 2: the quarterback position in an Eagles uniform, and then they

2357
02:05:10,080 --> 02:05:11,680
Speaker 2: went to the run game a little bit heavier in

2358
02:05:11,680 --> 02:05:13,600
Speaker 2: the second half and had some success there on a

2359
02:05:13,600 --> 02:05:17,560
Speaker 2: sloppy field. So I'm curious to see what Andy Reid's

2360
02:05:17,600 --> 02:05:20,440
Speaker 2: approach is, knowing that his passing game has not been

2361
02:05:20,480 --> 02:05:23,200
Speaker 2: as productive as it has been in years past due

2362
02:05:23,240 --> 02:05:26,440
Speaker 2: to the cast of characters that Steve mentioned, So we'll

2363
02:05:26,760 --> 02:05:29,320
Speaker 2: have to see how that plays out in the early going.

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02:05:30,360 --> 02:05:32,960
Speaker 2: I mentioned it at the top of the show. I

2365
02:05:33,000 --> 02:05:36,360
Speaker 2: know he's been inactive most of the season, but Kyer Elim,

2366
02:05:36,360 --> 02:05:38,200
Speaker 2: if his ankle's good, I'd like to see him come

2367
02:05:38,240 --> 02:05:42,919
Speaker 2: off ir Steve talked about how Buffalo secondary has struggled

2368
02:05:42,920 --> 02:05:45,800
Speaker 2: in man coverage from time to time. I know Kyer

2369
02:05:45,880 --> 02:05:48,920
Speaker 2: Elam can do that. So if you want to have

2370
02:05:49,000 --> 02:05:51,360
Speaker 2: some man calls, even on one side of the field

2371
02:05:51,400 --> 02:05:55,280
Speaker 2: and play zone on the other, maybe have Elam do that.

2372
02:05:55,400 --> 02:05:57,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just trying to find a role

2373
02:05:57,080 --> 02:05:58,560
Speaker 2: for a guy that I think can help your team

2374
02:05:58,640 --> 02:06:02,000
Speaker 2: right now when it has been great on the back

2375
02:06:02,120 --> 02:06:04,000
Speaker 2: end and there have been big plays against you. So

2376
02:06:04,880 --> 02:06:08,520
Speaker 2: just something to think about going forward. I think that's

2377
02:06:08,600 --> 02:06:10,600
Speaker 2: kind of the nuts and bolts of it in terms

2378
02:06:10,600 --> 02:06:13,440
Speaker 2: of what he was looking for for opinions there. So

2379
02:06:14,080 --> 02:06:16,400
Speaker 2: let's go to the tweet sheet we haven't cracked that yet.

2380
02:06:17,000 --> 02:06:20,240
Speaker 2: And tweet sheet brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems,

2381
02:06:20,280 --> 02:06:23,520
Speaker 2: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. What

2382
02:06:23,600 --> 02:06:26,640
Speaker 2: kind of Chiefs team do you think the Bills will

2383
02:06:26,680 --> 02:06:31,240
Speaker 2: be getting on Sunday at Arrowhead? Emily says, A gritty

2384
02:06:31,240 --> 02:06:34,320
Speaker 2: team who's eager for a win, especially after yesterday's lost

2385
02:06:34,320 --> 02:06:37,000
Speaker 2: to the Packers. However, I also think the Bills will

2386
02:06:37,000 --> 02:06:38,960
Speaker 2: be just as gritty and hungry for a win after

2387
02:06:39,000 --> 02:06:45,000
Speaker 2: what happened with the Eagles. Should be an interesting game. Yeah,

2388
02:06:45,040 --> 02:06:48,960
Speaker 2: it will be an interesting game. Yeah, Jeremy says the

2389
02:06:49,040 --> 02:06:51,879
Speaker 2: same one we have played the last two regular seasons.

2390
02:06:52,160 --> 02:06:55,400
Speaker 2: If we stand a single chance at the postseason, we

2391
02:06:55,480 --> 02:06:58,080
Speaker 2: need them to be down and us to be up.

2392
02:06:58,920 --> 02:07:02,480
Speaker 2: I think what really goes into this, Steve, I think

2393
02:07:02,920 --> 02:07:05,600
Speaker 2: most fans of the Bills are expecting the Chiefs to

2394
02:07:05,600 --> 02:07:08,840
Speaker 2: be a charged up bunch coming off a loss, especially

2395
02:07:08,880 --> 02:07:13,360
Speaker 2: at home. Makes sense. You got a weather like those

2396
02:07:13,400 --> 02:07:17,040
Speaker 2: first ten minutes of regulation, you know, because you know

2397
02:07:17,120 --> 02:07:18,720
Speaker 2: that the Chiefs are going to come out a charged

2398
02:07:18,800 --> 02:07:22,040
Speaker 2: up football team and all that, and so I think

2399
02:07:22,040 --> 02:07:24,120
Speaker 2: you've got to kind of weather that storm, of like

2400
02:07:24,200 --> 02:07:26,080
Speaker 2: the first ten minutes of the game, when the crowd's

2401
02:07:26,080 --> 02:07:28,880
Speaker 2: into it, the team's charged up. If you can kind

2402
02:07:28,880 --> 02:07:31,480
Speaker 2: of get your way through that and you're not down

2403
02:07:31,520 --> 02:07:35,440
Speaker 2: on the scoreboard, maybe even ahead, that can kind of

2404
02:07:35,440 --> 02:07:38,840
Speaker 2: go a long way to kind of getting the crowd

2405
02:07:38,840 --> 02:07:45,040
Speaker 2: out of the game and eliminating early charged up momentum

2406
02:07:45,240 --> 02:07:48,480
Speaker 2: and enthusiasm from your opponent on their home field.

2407
02:07:48,520 --> 02:07:53,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta weather that early storm. You'd like to

2408
02:07:53,120 --> 02:07:55,160
Speaker 3: get off to a faster start than perhaps the Bills

2409
02:07:55,200 --> 02:08:00,200
Speaker 3: have been able to in recent weeks. You know that

2410
02:08:00,200 --> 02:08:04,280
Speaker 3: that is crucial. This Chiefs team is different than the

2411
02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:06,560
Speaker 3: animal you've been playing there over the last three or

2412
02:08:06,560 --> 02:08:09,720
Speaker 3: four years. With these two playoff teams going after, you

2413
02:08:09,800 --> 02:08:12,600
Speaker 3: got to recognize those differences, be ready for him, and

2414
02:08:12,920 --> 02:08:14,840
Speaker 3: rise up to meet him. It's a different it's a

2415
02:08:14,880 --> 02:08:19,400
Speaker 3: new challenge, and this is a game, in my opinion,

2416
02:08:19,440 --> 02:08:25,280
Speaker 3: you gotta have you gotta have it. You can't go

2417
02:08:25,320 --> 02:08:28,400
Speaker 3: into Week fourteen of the regular season with a losing

2418
02:08:28,440 --> 02:08:30,720
Speaker 3: record and expect to be the kind of season you

2419
02:08:30,720 --> 02:08:31,920
Speaker 3: wou Now it's all in front of you, and I

2420
02:08:31,960 --> 02:08:36,800
Speaker 3: still believe this team is really, really tough to beat,

2421
02:08:36,880 --> 02:08:39,680
Speaker 3: no question, it always has been but man, oh man,

2422
02:08:39,840 --> 02:08:42,040
Speaker 3: this is a game you gotta have, and it's hard

2423
02:08:42,040 --> 02:08:44,200
Speaker 3: to say that going into Kansas City with Pat Mahomes,

2424
02:08:44,240 --> 02:08:47,240
Speaker 3: Andy Reid, and Travis Kelsey waiting on you.

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02:08:47,400 --> 02:08:50,240
Speaker 2: Rick on the tweets sheet mentioned something we talked about earlier.

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02:08:50,360 --> 02:08:53,920
Speaker 2: Chiefs haven't lost back to back games since twenty twenty

2427
02:08:53,960 --> 02:08:56,560
Speaker 2: one in weeks two and three, and before that did

2428
02:08:56,600 --> 02:08:59,240
Speaker 2: not lose back to back games since twenty nineteen weeks

2429
02:08:59,280 --> 02:09:03,280
Speaker 2: five and six. It is twenty twenty three and they

2430
02:09:03,320 --> 02:09:06,600
Speaker 2: haven't lost back to back yet, so they are due.

2431
02:09:07,200 --> 02:09:10,240
Speaker 2: So Rick thinks they're due for back to back losses. Yeah,

2432
02:09:10,280 --> 02:09:13,200
Speaker 2: because it doesn't happen much. I'll buy it for a

2433
02:09:13,240 --> 02:09:17,000
Speaker 2: dollar if it helps the Bills win. Steve on the

2434
02:09:17,000 --> 02:09:20,000
Speaker 2: tweet sheet says, I am sure we will get their

2435
02:09:20,040 --> 02:09:22,800
Speaker 2: A game because everyone seems to bring it against the Bills.

2436
02:09:23,160 --> 02:09:25,600
Speaker 2: The Bills will just need to bring their A plus game.

2437
02:09:26,840 --> 02:09:29,920
Speaker 2: David on the tweet sheet says, the same Chiefs team

2438
02:09:29,960 --> 02:09:32,920
Speaker 2: we've seen all season, with a little worse defense due

2439
02:09:32,920 --> 02:09:35,839
Speaker 2: to injuries. If the Bills play like they did in Philly,

2440
02:09:36,240 --> 02:09:40,240
Speaker 2: they should win pretty easy. Well, minus the self sabotage

2441
02:09:41,040 --> 02:09:42,360
Speaker 2: with penalties and stuff.

2442
02:09:42,560 --> 02:09:44,600
Speaker 3: I mean, it's getting to the point where I can't

2443
02:09:44,600 --> 02:09:46,360
Speaker 3: wait to see who the officiating crew is gonna be.

2444
02:09:46,480 --> 02:09:51,640
Speaker 2: Oh you can't wait or look, I don't want to look.

2445
02:09:51,680 --> 02:09:52,200
Speaker 3: I gotta know.

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02:09:54,280 --> 02:09:56,880
Speaker 2: The injuries are a factor here now, Steve. You got

2447
02:09:56,880 --> 02:09:59,240
Speaker 2: Brian Cook. They're starting free safety with a lower leg

2448
02:09:59,280 --> 02:10:01,840
Speaker 2: injury they said came back negative. He did not break

2449
02:10:01,840 --> 02:10:05,320
Speaker 2: his ankle, got carted off last night. Their starting middle

2450
02:10:05,320 --> 02:10:08,160
Speaker 2: linebacker who was already in for Nick Bolton who's out,

2451
02:10:08,200 --> 02:10:11,680
Speaker 2: who's been out with wrist surgery, Drew Trankwell goes out

2452
02:10:11,720 --> 02:10:13,800
Speaker 2: with a concussion. He'll be in the protocol this week.

2453
02:10:14,120 --> 02:10:16,560
Speaker 2: Love to see what happens there. And then they're left

2454
02:10:16,560 --> 02:10:19,280
Speaker 2: tackle Donovan Smith goes out of the game. His arm

2455
02:10:19,360 --> 02:10:21,480
Speaker 2: was getting numb and then he could feel it again,

2456
02:10:21,520 --> 02:10:22,800
Speaker 2: and then it was numb again. He had to come

2457
02:10:22,800 --> 02:10:24,920
Speaker 2: out of the game and they had to backup left

2458
02:10:24,920 --> 02:10:28,080
Speaker 2: tackle in there. And Preston Smith was eating on the

2459
02:10:28,120 --> 02:10:31,280
Speaker 2: pass rush for the bat Packers last night after that happened.

2460
02:10:31,320 --> 02:10:35,640
Speaker 2: So it's gonna bear some watching for sure. Matthew on

2461
02:10:35,640 --> 02:10:38,600
Speaker 2: the tweets sheet says, gonna see a motivated Chiefs team.

2462
02:10:38,960 --> 02:10:41,440
Speaker 2: They want the one seed and need all the wins

2463
02:10:41,440 --> 02:10:44,840
Speaker 2: they can get. The offense doesn't look as formidable as

2464
02:10:44,840 --> 02:10:48,640
Speaker 2: it once was, but that defense could be a problem. Yeah,

2465
02:10:48,680 --> 02:10:51,400
Speaker 2: the defense is the strength of the Chiefs now, despite

2466
02:10:51,400 --> 02:10:55,120
Speaker 2: what you might believe, which is an interesting one that

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02:10:55,200 --> 02:10:56,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody expect.

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02:10:56,440 --> 02:10:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, give him some credit. They've they've changed the

2469
02:11:00,120 --> 02:11:04,240
Speaker 3: spots and they're still racking up wins despite what happened

2470
02:11:04,280 --> 02:11:04,680
Speaker 3: last night.

2471
02:11:04,640 --> 02:11:06,960
Speaker 2: Because they got number fifteen back there. Got to take

2472
02:11:07,000 --> 02:11:11,120
Speaker 2: a break here when we come back. An interesting development

2473
02:11:11,280 --> 02:11:16,040
Speaker 2: at at the quarterback position for another AFC East team.

2474
02:11:16,560 --> 02:11:19,000
Speaker 2: What does it mean going forward? We'll discuss when we

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02:11:19,040 --> 02:11:21,440
Speaker 2: return here on one Bill's Live, presented by Killida Health.

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Speaker 22: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

2477
02:11:37,400 --> 02:11:39,480
Speaker 2: All right, so we told you there was quarterback news

2478
02:11:39,640 --> 02:11:43,560
Speaker 2: in the AFC East. And no, it's not the Patriots

2479
02:11:43,560 --> 02:11:46,560
Speaker 2: who started Bailly Zappi and got shut out yesterday's six. Nothing.

2480
02:11:47,480 --> 02:11:51,640
Speaker 2: It's the Jets. Diana Rossini from The Athletic reported this first.

2481
02:11:52,600 --> 02:11:54,760
Speaker 2: She said the Jets want to make a switch at quarterback.

2482
02:11:54,800 --> 02:11:57,720
Speaker 2: Tim Boyle has started a quarterback each of the last

2483
02:11:57,720 --> 02:12:03,160
Speaker 2: two games with horrific resists. The team is leaning towards

2484
02:12:03,400 --> 02:12:06,640
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson to take over again as the starting quarterback,

2485
02:12:07,240 --> 02:12:11,240
Speaker 2: but he is reluctant to step back in. According to

2486
02:12:11,280 --> 02:12:17,040
Speaker 2: her sources, the team is discussing next steps. I am

2487
02:12:17,120 --> 02:12:20,839
Speaker 2: just going to say, here's steve that. If that report

2488
02:12:20,880 --> 02:12:25,760
Speaker 2: is accurate, Zach Wilson's NFL career is officially over today.

2489
02:12:26,720 --> 02:12:29,560
Speaker 2: No team is going to take that guy on. If,

2490
02:12:29,640 --> 02:12:31,880
Speaker 2: when he's asked to go back in the starting lineup,

2491
02:12:31,920 --> 02:12:36,520
Speaker 2: says no, I'm good. How can you expect that guy

2492
02:12:36,560 --> 02:12:37,560
Speaker 2: to be a competitor for you?

2493
02:12:38,120 --> 02:12:40,320
Speaker 3: I'll say this, it depends on his story. You got

2494
02:12:40,320 --> 02:12:43,360
Speaker 3: a question. I'm never gonna say no. There's there's always

2495
02:12:43,360 --> 02:12:44,920
Speaker 3: going to be a team that's gonna get the guy shot.

2496
02:12:45,000 --> 02:12:45,760
Speaker 2: I believe me.

2497
02:12:46,040 --> 02:12:48,640
Speaker 3: But you're right in New York, that's gotta be true.

2498
02:12:49,160 --> 02:12:51,760
Speaker 3: If he doesn't want the ball, he can't be on

2499
02:12:51,800 --> 02:12:52,200
Speaker 3: your team.

2500
02:12:53,120 --> 02:12:53,480
Speaker 2: Period.

2501
02:12:54,800 --> 02:12:57,080
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean that he doesn't have his reasons for saying.

2502
02:12:57,080 --> 02:12:58,720
Speaker 3: Maybe he's not one hundred percent healthy, Maybe he's just

2503
02:12:58,760 --> 02:13:01,000
Speaker 3: not ready. Maybe he says, listen, he already benched me once.

2504
02:13:01,080 --> 02:13:05,000
Speaker 2: Forget it. I'm gonna take my ball and go home. Whatever.

2505
02:13:05,320 --> 02:13:06,680
Speaker 3: I don't know how he feels like he's got the

2506
02:13:06,720 --> 02:13:09,000
Speaker 3: cachet to say that to an NFL team, But he could.

2507
02:13:09,040 --> 02:13:11,720
Speaker 3: He could say, listen, I gave you the best I could.

2508
02:13:11,760 --> 02:13:12,840
Speaker 2: Now what you know?

2509
02:13:12,840 --> 02:13:14,360
Speaker 3: Now you want me to come back in and gather

2510
02:13:14,400 --> 02:13:17,240
Speaker 3: this up behind that offensive line and this coaching staff.

2511
02:13:17,240 --> 02:13:20,200
Speaker 3: Forget it. You can cut me. I'm gonna go someplace

2512
02:13:20,240 --> 02:13:22,120
Speaker 3: else and play where they actually know how to play

2513
02:13:22,160 --> 02:13:24,920
Speaker 3: a quarterback and coach a quarterback. That kind of stuff

2514
02:13:24,960 --> 02:13:28,240
Speaker 3: could happen, and then it's different. But if he doesn't

2515
02:13:28,240 --> 02:13:31,400
Speaker 3: want to play for your team, he should not get

2516
02:13:31,400 --> 02:13:32,000
Speaker 3: a paycheck.

2517
02:13:32,200 --> 02:13:33,800
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just it. He should be out the door.

2518
02:13:33,840 --> 02:13:33,920
Speaker 17: Now.

2519
02:13:33,960 --> 02:13:37,240
Speaker 3: There's money all guaranteed, his salaries guaranteed because he's a

2520
02:13:37,280 --> 02:13:37,920
Speaker 3: first round pick.

2521
02:13:38,520 --> 02:13:38,960
Speaker 2: That's it.

2522
02:13:39,040 --> 02:13:41,920
Speaker 3: But he should not be on your team under any

2523
02:13:41,920 --> 02:13:43,960
Speaker 3: circumstances if he didn't want to play and you're giving

2524
02:13:44,040 --> 02:13:45,960
Speaker 3: him the starting quarterback role.

2525
02:13:46,080 --> 02:13:50,640
Speaker 2: The other interesting news is free agent linebacker Shack Leonard,

2526
02:13:50,640 --> 02:13:54,520
Speaker 2: who was released by the Colts, has agreed to terms

2527
02:13:54,600 --> 02:13:58,440
Speaker 2: with the Philadelphia Eagles. Now what makes this interesting is

2528
02:13:58,720 --> 02:14:04,040
Speaker 2: he visited two teams, the Eagles and the Cowboys. He

2529
02:14:04,200 --> 02:14:08,800
Speaker 2: chooses the Eagles, who are playing the Cowboys in Dallas

2530
02:14:09,240 --> 02:14:09,879
Speaker 2: this weekend.

2531
02:14:10,040 --> 02:14:10,880
Speaker 3: Oh here, we go.

2532
02:14:11,680 --> 02:14:14,000
Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow at one with more Bill's Cheese

2533
02:14:14,040 --> 02:14:22,000
Speaker 2: tak for You.