Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid Verbo.
Speaker 2: I'm that for me. I'm a man, I'm forty. I've
Speaker 2: heard so many players say, well, I want to be happy.
Speaker 2: You want to be happy for Dake Edith State.
Speaker 1: Is that whoo whoom?
Speaker 2: And Dan and Tye.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Solid Burbo boys and girls. My
Speaker 1: name is ty Hildebrand, joining me as always over there
Speaker 1: in a beautiful New York city. My man, the one
Speaker 1: and only his name is Dan Rubinstein, Sir, how are you, Ty?
Speaker 2: I'm fantastic. We have Army Navy now in the rear
Speaker 2: view mirror, which means officially, the FBS regular season has
Speaker 2: come to a close, right it is Dounzo officially, Yes,
Speaker 2: officially Donzo. And you know it's always a long slog.
Speaker 2: You know the season we you know, we start previewing July,
Speaker 2: early August. We had a week zero this season.
Speaker 1: You're telling me, man, I'm running here. Yeah, I just ty.
Speaker 2: I look back and I say, it looks like we
Speaker 2: made it. It. Look how far we've come. We took
Speaker 2: the long way we did, but we knew we'd get
Speaker 2: here someday. And all the doubters, all the doubters said,
Speaker 2: but they'll never make it. But look at us, Ty
Speaker 2: holding on me and you were still together, still going strong.
Speaker 2: Shania Twain, you steal the one. You steal the one.
Speaker 2: H Yeah, correct.
Speaker 1: I wanted you to go through the full thing just
Speaker 1: so everybody could hear. Yeah, the artistry that is Shania Twain.
Speaker 1: You're still the work.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yes, it's a season is over. It's it's been
Speaker 1: a season. It was a lot of fun this year.
Speaker 1: Of course we added the two's cruise, which made it
Speaker 1: a little bit more labor intensive on our end, but
Speaker 1: nonetheless still a lot of fun. And here we are.
Speaker 1: So what we're doing today. We do have some news
Speaker 1: to get through. There were a few awards that were
Speaker 1: handed out in the last few days. There's also some
Speaker 1: coaching news which you're going to touch base one and
Speaker 1: then we're going to dive into Bowl Confidence Pool season.
Speaker 1: We've got a lot of exciting things going on on
Speaker 1: that front. So why don't we start at the very
Speaker 1: top with our pregnant.
Speaker 2: Boo.
Speaker 1: We have a Heisman Trophy winner. It is not exactly
Speaker 1: a huge surprise if you were following college football at
Speaker 1: all this season, especially the latter half of the season,
Speaker 1: but congratulations to our boy, Joe Dirt Joe Burrow a
Speaker 1: record setter. Now he wins the Heisman Trophy. He earned
Speaker 1: the highest margin of victory ever in the bouting, the
Speaker 1: most first place votes ever. He shatters the previous mark
Speaker 1: back in nineteen sixty eight when OJ Simpson won by
Speaker 1: a margin of seventeen hundred and fifty points. Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: won by eighteen hundred and forty six. There was no
Speaker 1: doubt he was going to be the one that one.
Speaker 1: Good for him, you know, he makes the move over
Speaker 1: from Ohio State, takes a chance on LSU, got the
Speaker 1: gig last year, really zoomed into a different stratosphere during
Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen season. Is going to go very highly
Speaker 1: in the draft. It's been a great story from start
Speaker 1: to finish, and it's not finished yet. He still could
Speaker 1: have two games left, yes, and a really heartfelt speech.
Speaker 1: I thought in watching what Joe Burrow had to say
Speaker 1: about his season and his path and where he comes from.
Speaker 1: And I think he called it Southeast Ohio at the
Speaker 1: Athens area. So very cool to see.
Speaker 2: I saw somebody post, somebody that works in college football
Speaker 2: recruiting that they posted a DM he sent. I'm like
Speaker 2: two thousand and eleven or twenty thirteen saying I'm not
Speaker 2: really just I'm not getting that much traction. What camps
Speaker 2: should I be going to? And just to see where
Speaker 2: he came from and where he has evolved into it's
Speaker 2: pretty crazy and well earned, well deserved, absolutely, so congratulations
Speaker 2: to him. Congratulations to the other three finalists as well.
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, Justin Fields and Chase Young all deserve much
Speaker 2: praise as well for wonderful seasons and none of their
Speaker 2: stories are over yet because they're all in the college
Speaker 2: football playoffs, which we are going to preview.
Speaker 1: A few shows from now, So do stay tuned. Any
Speaker 1: other awards that you'd like to run through?
Speaker 2: Sure real quick? We can mention that the Maxwell also
Speaker 2: went to Joe Burrow. That's Player of the Year, Davey
Speaker 2: O'Brien Joe Burrow best Quarterback, the Doak Walker Reward. Somehow
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor was able to take it without being a
Speaker 2: Heisman finalist who could have even imagined the best running back.
Speaker 2: The Bolitnikoff goes to Jamar Chase, Joe Burrow's best receiver
Speaker 2: at LSU. The John Mackie for best tight End, Harrison Bryant,
Speaker 2: who we will discuss his team here shortly at FAU
Speaker 2: the b Nark Best defensive player overall, Chase Young makes sense.
Speaker 2: The butt gets best linebacker Isaiah Simmons, who was everywhere
Speaker 2: for Clemson this season. The Thorpe Award for Best dB,
Speaker 2: Grant de But at LSU, who at a good year.
Speaker 2: I don't you know, there were there were some down moments,
Speaker 2: but still at his best is an incredible safety. Uh
Speaker 2: Tyler Battish. I hope I pronounced that correctly. Best center,
Speaker 2: the Rimington the Outland went to official left tackle of
Speaker 2: the solid verbal Penay Sewel at Oregon. Sure that was
Speaker 2: a hotly contested one. The Louke Groza for best kicker,
Speaker 2: the bespectacled Rodrigo Blankenship at Georgia. And the best punter,
Speaker 2: Max Duffy at Kentucky, who just has an absolute I
Speaker 2: was gonna say cannon for a Holitzer, So Holitzer Holitzer
Speaker 2: for foot. So a lot of well earned awards for
Speaker 2: those guys. And if we want to talk about coaching stuff,
Speaker 2: if I don't know, sure the carousel sounds I have
Speaker 2: it here? You go, Okay, you're so quick, get the roar,
Speaker 2: in there there would go hard. Yeah, it's difficult for
Speaker 2: me to remember exactly what we touched on. Did We
Speaker 2: mentioned the Chip Long thing Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: We mentioned that Chip Long and Notre Dame had mutually
Speaker 1: parted ways.
Speaker 2: He was thought of to be a Memphis candidate, I
Speaker 2: believe from his time obviously coaching there, But Memphis has
Speaker 2: named They've taken the interim tag off of Ryan Silverfield
Speaker 2: is the new head coach of Memphis. Ron Duggins, I believe,
Speaker 2: is how you pronounced wide receiver coach Florida State. He
Speaker 2: is being retained at Florida State by Mike Norvell and
Speaker 2: his staff. Blake Gideon, you remember that name. I do.
Speaker 2: Blake Gideon, I think well regarded, young up and coming coach.
Speaker 2: He was obviously a safety at Texas. He is joining
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin's staff. Zach Hill has been hired away from
Speaker 2: Boise State. Their offensive coordinator is joining herm Edwards in
Speaker 2: that same position at Arizona State. Jeff Haffley is the
Speaker 2: new head coach at Boston College. I saw that he
Speaker 2: is the co defensive coordinator and secondary coach. Incredibly well regarded.
Speaker 2: He was with the forty nine ers a couple of
Speaker 2: years before that for Ohio State, and he takes over
Speaker 2: at Boston College. Has a long career, actually not a
Speaker 2: short career, but an impressive one in the Northeast especially,
Speaker 2: but has NFL experienced. Marcus Arroyo, the offensive coordinator at Oregon,
Speaker 2: has been hired by UNLV. We'll still coach in the
Speaker 2: Rose Bowl, but it's it's a nice hire. I think
Speaker 2: I had my problems with the Oregon offense. I don't
Speaker 2: think they fully fall on him. He's known to be
Speaker 2: a pretty great recruiter and I think he's a People
Speaker 2: seem to like him, so hopefully he succeeds at UNLV.
Speaker 2: Took place that's tough to win. Matt Luke to Georgia,
Speaker 2: the ole Miss coach, will be making nine hundred thousand
Speaker 2: dollars to coach the Georgia offensive line. He maybe also
Speaker 2: be an associate head coach for the Dogs. Tracy Clays
Speaker 2: who you remember from his time most recently at Washington
Speaker 2: State as defensive coordinator. Before stepping down, he was at
Speaker 2: Minnesota as an interim and then head coach. He has
Speaker 2: joined Virginia Tech as a linebackers coach. Okay, so there's
Speaker 2: that so putting together a nice post Bud Foster staff
Speaker 2: On that defense, Barry Odom looks like he will be
Speaker 2: joining the Arkansas staff for Sam.
Speaker 1: Pittman defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2: As a defensive coordinator in Barry Odom is a stud
Speaker 2: of a defense.
Speaker 1: He's a really good defensive coordinator and that that should
Speaker 1: be music to Arkansas fans' ears because defense has been
Speaker 1: a bit of a liability to say the least.
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin has hired away the UCF offensive coordinator, Jeff Leby,
Speaker 2: and he's bringing over his strength coach with him as
Speaker 2: well from fau Wilson Love to ole Miss. Outside of that,
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if do we mention Eli
Speaker 2: Drinkwitz to Miszoo.
Speaker 1: I think we mentioned that on the last show. I
Speaker 1: was just going to throw in one final tidbit that
Speaker 1: the one and only Tommy Reese will be calling plays
Speaker 1: for Notre Dame in the camping world.
Speaker 2: Tom Tom, can you really make an adjustment post playing
Speaker 2: to your first name?
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, He's still Tommy to me. I
Speaker 1: know if he gets the gig, we can resurrect the
Speaker 1: resis sound no pun intended, but he's a young guy.
Speaker 1: So he's been in the Notre Dame program for a
Speaker 1: while now, he's well thought of in the coaching ranks.
Speaker 1: He's going to get chanced a big job though. Man,
Speaker 1: he's never called plays before. We'll see he is the
Speaker 1: son of a coach. We've heard that a thousand times.
Speaker 1: We'll see how he does in that Bowl game and
Speaker 1: we'll see where Notre Dame decides to go longer term.
Speaker 1: But if you hear his name and you wonder what's
Speaker 1: going on. Because Chip Long is no longer with the team,
Speaker 1: Tommy Reese is going to get his crack at call
Speaker 1: in some plays.
Speaker 2: That's too big a job for him though to take
Speaker 2: full time, right, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: We could talk about that at some other point in time.
Speaker 1: Any other news that we need to discuss here anything.
Speaker 2: Finally, Nick Saban is out and about recruiting because signing
Speaker 2: day is in like three days. So we'll discuss signing
Speaker 2: day as we get into more Bowl previews. And you know,
Speaker 2: it's the early signing day, but it's kind of the
Speaker 2: real signing day with some stragglers in February. So yep,
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: So here is the way that this works. First and foremost.
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Speaker 1: dot com, where our boy Peter recently posted that I, yes,
Speaker 1: yours truly won the Fantasy Things conceiations. Thank you. I
Speaker 1: owe it to God in the troops as I always do.
Speaker 2: Do you get on like eye slide sandals as part
Speaker 2: of a congratulatory gift suite experience.
Speaker 1: It's a very natural tie in that you did there.
Speaker 1: That is a professional tie into what we are doing today.
Speaker 2: Is it not? I try a little segue.
Speaker 1: Interesting, Yeah, Today we are embarking upon our five part
Speaker 1: Bowl preview. So there are a bunch of games to discuss.
Speaker 1: There are forty one that if you go on out
Speaker 1: to your Bowl confidence pool you have a chance to select.
Speaker 1: There are forty Bowl games and then the forty first
Speaker 1: is obviously the national Championship. What we have done is
Speaker 1: set up our confidence pool. You can go to solid
Speaker 1: verbal dot com slash pick them, or you can just
Speaker 1: go to our website and at the very top and
Speaker 1: the yellow banner, you'll see a link where you can
Speaker 1: click through and you can sign up for the pool.
Speaker 1: The way that this works is you pick winners, and
Speaker 1: then after you pick the winners, you assign confidence points
Speaker 1: to each of those winners. So, for example, if you
Speaker 1: are very very comfortable with selecting Notre Dame over Iowa
Speaker 1: State and you are the most confident in that game,
Speaker 1: put forty one points on it. The least confident game
Speaker 1: that you pick, you put one point on. Very simple,
Speaker 1: you just rank them from forty one on down in
Speaker 1: terms of your confidence. Now, this year, what we have
Speaker 1: done is we have up the ante a little bit.
Speaker 2: Ooh.
Speaker 1: Our friends over at Rollback are throwing in some gift
Speaker 1: cards to the top three.
Speaker 2: Wow. I like that.
Speaker 1: Finishers in the Bowl pool you can get in I
Speaker 1: think twice. I've got a cap on twice. You can
Speaker 1: enter two if you one. But going out to cliverble
Speaker 1: dot com slash pick them. We do this every year.
Speaker 1: We're going to be previewing these games in waves. It
Speaker 1: dawned to me that despite we knew we were gonna
Speaker 1: be doing the show for a while, I don't actually
Speaker 1: have a Bowl confidence pool. Or bowl, pool, bowl anything sound,
Speaker 1: which meant I just I picked two randomly off the
Speaker 1: shelf that we could go with. Now, okay, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have to play December to Remember at some point, because
Speaker 1: of course that's sort of our unofficial theme for the
Speaker 1: month of December. But I have two here. You can
Speaker 1: tell me which one you prefer. Here's a orderlinerot again ironic.
Speaker 2: Orderline erotica.
Speaker 1: So that's the old Brett Beelama sound, and it is
Speaker 1: labeled here in our file as borderline erotic dash no
Speaker 1: turkey because there used to be a gobble at the end,
Speaker 1: and at some point or another I must have chopped
Speaker 1: the turkey portion off it so we could it was for.
Speaker 2: November, and you that's just dumb, dumb decision by on
Speaker 2: your part.
Speaker 1: The other one here, and I have no idea why
Speaker 1: I have this sound, but I believe this is a
Speaker 1: book It commercial from nineteen ninety two. Book It is
Speaker 1: a reading incentive program that encourages young people to read,
Speaker 1: support your children's It's like a full forty five second clip.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say we'd still gone here.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I don't know which one we want to
Speaker 1: assign to this specific Bowl previous show, but this is
Speaker 1: Bowl Previews Show number one. We're going to be previewing
Speaker 1: games from the Celebration Bowl on the twentieth of December
Speaker 1: all the way through the Quick Laying Bowl on December
Speaker 1: twenty sixth. So this is our biggest batch of games
Speaker 1: that will be previewing at once. As I said, we've
Speaker 1: got a couple of these that are forthcoming, but we're
Speaker 1: going to jump right out of the shoot here talking
Speaker 1: about a dozen games or so.
Speaker 2: Dan, I think we should just hop in the bull barge,
Speaker 2: the bull boat, the bull boat, keep it nautically themed
Speaker 2: all the way through. Just commit to the bit. If
Speaker 2: that is the is that that's the general theme of
Speaker 2: our twenty nineteen season. I think we just commit to
Speaker 2: the nautical bit all the way through.
Speaker 1: We can do that, Okay, Okay. So I have a
Speaker 1: couple rules that I like to follow in confidence pools. Okay,
Speaker 1: I have a bit of a formula, and I know
Speaker 1: you do too, But let me tell you my three
Speaker 1: rules when it comes to picking these things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that you call it a formula, and
Speaker 2: it's completely subjective, completely subjective. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The first rule is what I call the East Coast
Speaker 1: Elliott Rule East Coast Elliott, formerly a fixture on the show.
Speaker 1: Not sure if Elliott still listens. Definitely still live, Definitely
Speaker 1: still a wild card. Yeah, but not as big a
Speaker 1: part of the show as he used to be anyway.
Speaker 1: Great dude, mediocre speller, medio, very mediocre speller.
Speaker 2: That is correct. Yeah, but my.
Speaker 1: Friend Elliott has long had this theory that I have
Speaker 1: adopted as my own, and his theory is that in
Speaker 1: confidence pools you should load up on your points early.
Speaker 1: I like that, all right. So by default, if you
Speaker 1: go in there soliverbo dot com slash pick them and
Speaker 1: you sign up, you're going to see that the system
Speaker 1: will number the early games with your least amount of
Speaker 1: confidence and the later games with your most amount of confidence.
Speaker 1: It basically just numbers them in chronological order from one
Speaker 1: to forty one. All I'm saying is to reverse that,
Speaker 1: or at least most of that. People don't know as
Speaker 1: much about the teams in the earlier games, so they
Speaker 1: tend to load up on the later games, which I've
Speaker 1: always found to be more of a toss up. So
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is just reverse the curse. Put a
Speaker 1: lot of your points early, try to front load it.
Speaker 1: Get them early, especially if you're in a smaller confidence pool.
Speaker 1: The one we're doing is going to have a couple
Speaker 1: thousand entries, But if you're in like an office pool
Speaker 1: or you've got thirty people, load up on your points early,
Speaker 1: get them early. Try to get as many points as
Speaker 1: you can before December the twenty sixth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do your own version of cheesing. Do your own
Speaker 2: version of fantasy baseball, loading up on closers where you
Speaker 2: just like have a strategy and you stick to it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: committing to the bit. Get your points early. So that's
Speaker 2: the first rule.
Speaker 1: The second is if a team lost its coach, pick
Speaker 1: the opponent. Okay, not in every case, but consider it.
Speaker 1: Consider it if there's a monster injury. We've got this
Speaker 1: newer thing now last couple of years where guys are
Speaker 1: skipping their bowl games. Don't know if that's gonna happen,
Speaker 1: but if it does, consider that as well.
Speaker 2: We've seen some cam Akers has decided to sit out
Speaker 2: the Florida State Bowl Game. So yeah, so there's some
Speaker 2: big names that are sitting out.
Speaker 1: Can consider that. And then the third thing is just
Speaker 1: in general, pick the team that wants it more. Unless
Speaker 1: it's a total mismatch, and that's an important qualifier that
Speaker 1: pertains to my perdew Auburn situation from a here gootyright,
Speaker 1: I read too much into that. But this won't come
Speaker 1: as much into play this wave, but definitely as we
Speaker 1: get into more Power five games, I think it's going
Speaker 1: to be more of a factor. Those are my only
Speaker 1: three rules.
Speaker 2: Okay, I generally I like the early games being worth
Speaker 2: more in the confidence pool. I have not signed up
Speaker 2: and addressed my confidence numbers, so I'll do that the
Speaker 2: next show. But I mean I have game picks and
Speaker 2: stuff like that, and so I am ready to roll upon. Well,
Speaker 2: we should also mention Navy murdered Army.
Speaker 1: They actually did. You just got thirty one to seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was closerly, but nyve just putting an exclamation
Speaker 2: point on a pretty remarkable comeback season after a down
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. And I know it was Malcolm Perry rushed
Speaker 2: for over three hundred yards, set records for the midshipman
Speaker 2: and you know, I know you like to take those points,
Speaker 2: but it was it was a hell of a second half,
Speaker 2: especially for Navy.
Speaker 1: Let's start at the top. December the twentieth. It's on ABC.
Speaker 1: It is North Carolina A and T at eight and three.
Speaker 1: It is al Korn State at nine and three. They
Speaker 1: call this one the Celebration Bowl. It's a wonderful tradition. Yeah,
Speaker 1: North Carolina A and T is a two and a
Speaker 1: half point favorite here, Dan, So what I said at
Speaker 1: the top about putting a ton of points on some
Speaker 1: of these early games, I'm not gonna put forty one
Speaker 1: on this, but I'm gonna put thirty five. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put it on North Carolina A and T.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are more balanced team. I just read up
Speaker 2: a little bit, watched a couple of clips. I'm going
Speaker 2: with the the Aggies over the braves here.
Speaker 1: It is the fourth straight time that North Carolina A
Speaker 1: and T has been in this game, so they've got
Speaker 1: some familiarity with it. They've got a great rushing attack,
Speaker 1: a good defense. Okay, thirty five points, go hard or
Speaker 1: go home. Let's just get it, get it out there,
Speaker 1: let's get our thirty five points. Let's survive in advance.
Speaker 2: This is the full testament to your our theory. Because
Speaker 2: I don't believe you've watched, because I haven't a single
Speaker 2: second of North Carolina A and T thirty five points.
Speaker 2: Is faith in the formula.
Speaker 1: I did a lot faith in the formula, that's right.
Speaker 1: I did a lot of research.
Speaker 2: On this game.
Speaker 1: Actually, okay, great, more so than I could put in
Speaker 1: the words. I did a lot of research on it.
Speaker 1: I feel pretty good about ant.
Speaker 2: Next bowl game.
Speaker 1: The makers wanted Bahamas Bowl Dan, Yes, what is makers wanted? Oh?
Speaker 2: I can google it though.
Speaker 1: I believe it's a type of liqueur, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Well, there's makers mark.
Speaker 1: I believe it's a type of the core a liqueur.
Speaker 2: As opposed to a liquor. Makers wanted is Uh? We
Speaker 2: probably do this every year. Is it the Is it
Speaker 2: a business park in Illinois? Oh?
Speaker 1: I think it is a business park in Illinois. Sponsoring
Speaker 1: a bowl game in the Bahamas.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think we discussed this every year. I'm looking
Speaker 2: at a but yes, the Bahamas Bowl is in Nasau.
Speaker 1: Why did I think it was liquor?
Speaker 2: I think you got the makers mark part of.
Speaker 1: It makers wanted? Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Elk Grove Village is a village located in northeastern Illinois,
Speaker 2: adjacent to O'Hare International. The village, as part of its
Speaker 2: quote makers wanted campaign announced they will be taking over
Speaker 2: its naming rights sponsorship of the Bahamas Bowl. How do
Speaker 2: they want It? Is like the slogan, it's the tagline.
Speaker 1: How did they have the coin to sponsor the Bahamas Bowl?
Speaker 2: I just don't think it costs that much. I just
Speaker 2: don't believe it does.
Speaker 1: This one is also on December the twentieth. It's on ESPN.
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo. The Bulls are seven and five and a
Speaker 1: six and a half point favorite over Charlotte. Yeah, Charlotte
Speaker 1: is also seven and five. Now, both teams had much
Speaker 1: better second halves of their season. Charlotte's actually on a
Speaker 1: five game winning streak coming into the Bahamas Bowl. This
Speaker 1: is one of those games where I think both teams
Speaker 1: want it. I can't look at this game and say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: there's one team where this game means way more to them. No,
Speaker 1: I think both want it. It is worth noting that
Speaker 1: Will Healey didn't he announce this bullbit wearing a bunch
Speaker 1: of scuba gear.
Speaker 2: Yes, and he also just got a contract extension, So
Speaker 2: it's good time to be Will Healey and the Charlotte
Speaker 2: forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: He's an up and coming coach. They've got a really
Speaker 1: good offense, and they're especially good on the ground. My
Speaker 1: issue with taking Charlotte here is that Buffalo is just
Speaker 1: so much better on defense. They're so good on defense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that, to me, I think is probably the biggest difference.
Speaker 1: So I went back and forth here. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to go crazy with like forty points on Buffalo, but
Speaker 1: I think I go Buffalo outright thirty confidence points. If
Speaker 1: I were a betting man, I'd probably bet on Charlotte.
Speaker 1: But wow, Buffalo outright thirty confidence points. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: high level confidence for me. And you're right, Buffalo has
Speaker 1: the impressive defense in this game. They have a duo
Speaker 1: of thousand yard rushers. Finished the season winning five of sex,
Speaker 1: five of sex, five of six.
Speaker 2: Oh ty, where's my mind? They beat Temple, they beat
Speaker 2: Central Michigan. These are quality enough teams, and the Charlotte
Speaker 2: forty nine or defense, which as part of a really
Speaker 2: fun story this year, still pretty rough. That defense, especially
Speaker 2: against the run. So it's a bad matchup. But they
Speaker 2: beat Marshall after losing four straight, and we talked about
Speaker 2: the way both of these teams finish out the year.
Speaker 2: Chris Reynolds is a fun dual threat at quarterback for
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers and Alex Highsmith, former walk on
Speaker 2: to Charlotte and has had an incredible season as an
Speaker 2: edge rusher and is a draft prospect. But I have
Speaker 2: Buffalo winning this by about ten points, and it should
Speaker 2: be noted. Yeah, there is a gift suite for the
Speaker 2: players in this game. I mean gifts includes board shorts,
Speaker 2: a Yetti rambler, which I really do like my Yeddi Rambler,
Speaker 2: which was a Bowld gift for us. You get a towel,
Speaker 2: you get a pine a string backpack I think from
Speaker 2: the Tropical Smoothie Cafe, which appears to be a Bowl
Speaker 2: sponsor of another game.
Speaker 1: Wait, they're sponsoring the next Bowl game.
Speaker 2: I know, but I'm seeing on the list Tropical Smoothie Cafe,
Speaker 2: string backpack.
Speaker 1: Why doesn't Tropical Smoothie sponsor the Bahamas Bowl?
Speaker 2: It feels like a better fit. It does.
Speaker 1: Tropical Smoothie is doing the Frisco Bowl, which we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about next. M hm. Could they just not
Speaker 1: outbid makers wanted?
Speaker 2: Sometimes you have contracts where you just you know, you
Speaker 2: got to wait your turn.
Speaker 1: If they switch places, it would make perfect sense for both.
Speaker 2: But who am I happens?
Speaker 1: Who am I?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Just alowly podcaster we go, we both got buffalo to
Speaker 1: the tune of many confidence points.
Speaker 2: Correct, Let's go to.
Speaker 1: The Tropical Smoothie Cafe Frisco Bowl. I hear ads for
Speaker 1: this place, actually, now that I think about it on
Speaker 1: Serious XM. One of those deals that they're trying to
Speaker 1: get you to buy into the franchise. Oh so full
Speaker 1: on store ads, full on ads here. This one is
Speaker 1: also on December of the twentieth. It's on ESPN. Two
Speaker 1: is Utah State at seven and five. It is Kent
Speaker 1: State at six and six. Utah States a seven point favorite.
Speaker 1: And I think the notable tidbit is that Jordan Love,
Speaker 1: the star quarterback for the Utah State Aggies. We talked
Speaker 1: about him on I don't Know a show a week
Speaker 1: and a half ago, how he's probably going to enter
Speaker 1: the transfer portal. Nope, he is going to go pro instead,
Speaker 1: So he's not in the transfer portal. He's going pro.
Speaker 1: He is playing in this game, which tells me that
Speaker 1: he is hungry to prove himself for any pro scouts
Speaker 1: that might be watching. He's a big kid, he's a
Speaker 1: good quarterback and I like Utah State a lot here
Speaker 1: because of that, I think he's got something to prove.
Speaker 1: Kent State.
Speaker 2: Good on them.
Speaker 1: It's only their fourth ever bowl game. They've never won
Speaker 1: a bowl game, so they will be hungry here. I
Speaker 1: don't think this is a motivational type thing, but I
Speaker 1: take Jordan Love. I take his pro prospects in him
Speaker 1: wanting to eat in this bowl game. Gimme Utah State
Speaker 1: and thirty nine confidence points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Utah State is who I am rolling with as well.
Speaker 2: They finished the season winning three oh four. It was
Speaker 2: a tough transition with Gary Anderson returning, but they still
Speaker 2: beat San Diego State and Wyoming, which are totally decent wins.
Speaker 2: It feels weird to say because Jordan Love showed so
Speaker 2: much last season. This was a below average offense and
Speaker 2: a below average defense, especially up front, So I'm not
Speaker 2: crazy confident in Utah State in the Aggies. But Ken
Speaker 2: State tight wins over Buffalo and Ball State. They played,
Speaker 2: they had a trio of crazy I think it was Auburn, Wisconsin,
Speaker 2: and Arizona State. Their defense is pretty bad, so I
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna go with the quarterback edge here, So yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Utah State maybe in the twenties,
Speaker 2: confidence Wise and TI so we agree. Gift suite includes
Speaker 2: a Justin cowboy hat. Should you know this is Frisco,
Speaker 2: Texas and also the home of the FCS Championship game.
Speaker 2: You gotta get a football. You get a college Football
Speaker 2: one hundred and fiftieth anniversary coin, a lapel pin, a beanie,
Speaker 2: and something called a Blingwear cup. I looked up Blingwear
Speaker 2: and I was like, Oh, this is a It feels
Speaker 2: like a really good idea for you know, drinking glasses
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. Maybe they all look like little
Speaker 2: trophies like a mini Stanley cup you can drink your
Speaker 2: coffee out of. Yeah, what a smart thing. It's just
Speaker 2: cups that fix a ring like a championship ring to them,
Speaker 2: so you could like hold the cup by the ring.
Speaker 2: Opportunity like a ring pop, but only for cups. So
Speaker 2: you can imagine a handle on a mug.
Speaker 1: Right right, like brass attached to a mug.
Speaker 2: Imagine a very small championship like a championship ring used
Speaker 2: as the handle, so you can only fit a finger
Speaker 2: in there to use as a finger or a handle.
Speaker 2: So that's what you're getting if you are a Utah
Speaker 2: State or ken State player in the Frisco Ball.
Speaker 1: So there there is a company that makes just those
Speaker 1: cups and that's the business.
Speaker 2: Sing where Tropical Smoothie Cafe did some digging while you
Speaker 2: were previewing your side of this game. Yeah, and you
Speaker 2: think to yourself, a Smoothie Cafe. That must be man,
Speaker 2: You're just you're watching your figure. You know, you want
Speaker 2: to get some vegetables and some fruits and some super
Speaker 2: foods into your diet. There's a lot of bacon on
Speaker 2: the Tropical Smoothie Cafe. Really club sandwiches, yes, breakfast burritos.
Speaker 1: Okay, so they're really.
Speaker 2: Something for everybody, I suppose at the Tropical Smoothie Cafe.
Speaker 1: I mean, if this podcast thing doesn't work out, we
Speaker 1: could get a franchise.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: I know a guy, I know a number. I hear
Speaker 1: it all the time. All right, now, what's going on
Speaker 1: Utah State? Right? We then we go to the New
Speaker 1: Mexico Bowl. This Bowl doesn't have a sponsor, does it.
Speaker 2: No? Not, No longer do they have a sponsor after
Speaker 2: what they went through.
Speaker 1: So December twenty first, this one is the day after
Speaker 1: It's on ESPN at San Diego State at nine and three.
Speaker 1: It is Central Michigan at eight and five. The Astechs
Speaker 1: are a three and a half point favorite here. Now
Speaker 1: you know my stance in San Diego State. I like
Speaker 1: them more than you. Every year they're like my Stanford.
Speaker 1: This year is no different. Like always, They're really good
Speaker 1: on defense. The metrics view their defense as a top
Speaker 1: twenty unit on a per play basis, which is notable.
Speaker 1: The most anyone has scored on them all year was
Speaker 1: twenty three points, and that was a close loss to
Speaker 1: Utah State. The problem is that the offense does legitimately stink.
Speaker 1: It's real bad. One of the great half teams this
Speaker 1: season is San Diego State, but the defense is just
Speaker 1: so high level that I question how Central Michigan gets
Speaker 1: any forward tractions. So I think it's low scoring. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to touch the point spread, but I like
Speaker 1: San Diego State. They have done well by me in
Speaker 1: past bowl seasons. So thirty eight points on the app,
Speaker 1: I'm committing to the bit.
Speaker 2: WHOA, I like that. I like that confidence. Yeah, you're
Speaker 2: right about San Diego State. Another year where it appears
Speaker 2: that Rocky Long exclusively recruits defensive players. They're great and
Speaker 2: the mean. The ones who get beat out are just
Speaker 2: assigned offense. It's a bunch of linebackers on the offensive line,
Speaker 2: and they obviously with Rashad Penny and Don L. Pumphrey,
Speaker 2: have recruited running backs pretty well. Jawan Washington, They're starting
Speaker 2: running back is questionable. In this game. San Diego State
Speaker 2: beat a decent enough BYU team Wyoming and Ucla, which
Speaker 2: is an impressive thing to do for San Diego State.
Speaker 2: They can really offensively, only they get some underneath passing going.
Speaker 2: It's not a great watch. But Central Michigan they finished
Speaker 2: the year strong. They win three of four and it's
Speaker 2: an improved year. Still a ways to go. And when
Speaker 2: you deep dive some of these seasons for the early
Speaker 2: Bowl games, you see a lot of Okay, let's see
Speaker 2: what type of S and P or SP plus teams
Speaker 2: they beat number one twenty seven, number one twenty nine,
Speaker 2: number one twenty three, number one nineteen, So building that
Speaker 2: sort of resumes, I guess the first step for Central Michigan,
Speaker 2: Quentin Dormandy, you'll remember from his time at Tennessee and
Speaker 2: brief stopover at Houston, is their starting quarterback. A very
Speaker 2: strong HAVOCD. They force fumbles, they get after the quarterback
Speaker 2: tackles for loss. Good against the run. I like Central
Speaker 2: Michigan and I like their story, but I have seventeen
Speaker 2: thirteen San Diego State.
Speaker 1: It feels right.
Speaker 2: This one that feels right. Yeah, I believe San Diego
Speaker 2: State also lost a game fourteen to eleven. If you're a.
Speaker 1: Stated scores, I love that eleven score one you.
Speaker 2: And the New Mexico Bowl is giving away Oakley Wholebrook sunglasses.
Speaker 2: There is a gift suite, an Oakley gearbox, backpack, a beanie,
Speaker 2: and a water bottle. Okay, hydrate, everybody, hydrate. So decent enough.
Speaker 1: Also on December twenty, first the FBC Mortgage Cure Bowl
Speaker 1: h CBS Sports Network. It's Georgia Southern at seven and five.
Speaker 1: It is Liberty at seven and five. Georgia Southern is
Speaker 1: a five point favorite. They are undefeated in bowl games
Speaker 1: since joining the FBS ranks. I guess they're two to zeroe.
Speaker 1: A whole lot to pull from there, but they're an
Speaker 1: option team and an option team, frankly, is a really
Speaker 1: bad matchup for Liberty, which is awful against the run
Speaker 1: as defensive unit. I like Liberty's passing game very solid,
Speaker 1: been solid all year. The Georgia Southern secondary also leaves
Speaker 1: a lot to be desired, but I think I like
Speaker 1: that matchup of the Southern option against the Liberty lack
Speaker 1: of a run defense option more than I like anything
Speaker 1: else here. So Georgia Southern thirty seven points, let's do it.
Speaker 2: Wow. Impressive season for Georgia Southern. They won six of
Speaker 2: eight to finish out the year, including beating app State
Speaker 2: in boone on ESPN Big Game. They pushed Minnesota early,
Speaker 2: as you'll remember. I think they lose that one by
Speaker 2: They lost that by a couple points. The quarterback is
Speaker 2: Shy Wertz, who has been around for a little bit,
Speaker 2: and they run a really fun it's like a shotgun
Speaker 2: option type look, so not your traditional under center. Maybe
Speaker 2: it's a shoption, sure whatever. They defend the run pretty well,
Speaker 2: not so much against the pass. I like that Liberty
Speaker 2: has at least a little bit of time to prepare
Speaker 2: for a different type of offense. Liberty sort of limped
Speaker 2: to the finish. They did beat Buffalo. The rest of
Speaker 2: their schedule sort of fluff. I know they played two
Speaker 2: FCS teams. I believe they run the ball. Well, you
Speaker 2: mentioned the passing game, Antonio Gandy Golden really good fun watch,
Speaker 2: big receiver setting records. I actually have Liberty winning this
Speaker 2: game real. I think their defense is a little bit better,
Speaker 2: So I'm going to go with Liberty. I have at
Speaker 2: thirty to twenty four taking down the Cure Ball.
Speaker 1: What's our gift situation here?
Speaker 2: Orlando is the home of the Cure Bowl, and I
Speaker 2: believe of FBC mortgage. So you'll be walking away with
Speaker 2: a watch, a Bluetooth backpack, a Bluetooth Bluetooth backpack, backpack,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what that means. Wow, a warm up
Speaker 2: jacket and pants, a sport tech long sleeve T shirt,
Speaker 2: a midfit structured hat, and pebble beach slides.
Speaker 1: Pebble beach slides.
Speaker 2: Pebble beach slides.
Speaker 1: Is that the new eye slide?
Speaker 2: I couldn't tell you, but I can google pebble beach slides.
Speaker 2: It's a sandal, Okay, that's what it appears to be.
Speaker 1: A lot of competition in that sandals market.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, it's true.
Speaker 1: We disagree. Moving on this, go to the Cherubundi Boker
Speaker 1: A toone Bowl. Dan h also on December twenty first
Speaker 1: on ABC, it is SMU at ten and two. It
Speaker 1: is FAU at ten and three. SMU is a three
Speaker 1: point favorite in this game, Daniel, So here we go,
Speaker 1: Here we go. The metrics say that this game's about
Speaker 1: as dead even as you were gonna get. But in
Speaker 1: keeping with the theme here, if I want to fully
Speaker 1: commit to the bit FA you lost Lin kiffinto ole Miss.
Speaker 1: SMU was potentially going New Year's six not too long ago.
Speaker 1: They've been a team we followed pretty closely all year long. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like FAU a lot here, and I really went
Speaker 1: back and forth on which direction I wanted to go,
Speaker 1: But the one thing I kept coming back to was
Speaker 1: I just I feel like SMU is going to care
Speaker 1: a little bit more. I feel like they've got something
Speaker 1: to prove, and they've been pretty solid all year.
Speaker 2: Liked FAU a lot.
Speaker 1: I like FA No. I like Here's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I like FAU a lot. I like their story. They've
Speaker 1: had a good year. They have solid players, but they
Speaker 1: lost their coach. They did, they lost their coach, and
Speaker 1: so I'm going against them primarily because of that, and
Speaker 1: also because I think SMU has more motivation to try
Speaker 1: and prove something here. So let's go SMU. Not as
Speaker 1: crazy as some of the other games that I've been picked,
Speaker 1: but still thirty one confidence points and keeping with the bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like SMU as well. I mean, the FAU
Speaker 2: thing is interesting because they're playing in their home stadium.
Speaker 2: Exactly is it's a road I guess it's a road favorite,
Speaker 2: so it's a home dog that you are going against.
Speaker 2: It was an uneven end to the season for SMU,
Speaker 2: but they still finish ten and two. That's pretty great.
Speaker 2: It's a big play offense. They were better through the air.
Speaker 2: Xavier Jones was really good on the ground for them.
Speaker 2: James proche was you know, continues to be a very
Speaker 2: good receiver. Patrick Nelson a total wrecking ball. And this
Speaker 2: is one of the things that I like about having
Speaker 2: a little bit of time to catch up on games
Speaker 2: that I didn't necessarily see and players I didn't necessarily
Speaker 2: get a chance to watch. Patrick Nelson is incredible for SMU,
Speaker 2: sort of a hybrid linebacker safety type, smaller linebacker, but
Speaker 2: all over the place. This is a big time havoc
Speaker 2: defense for the Mustangs. They will gamble and miss, give
Speaker 2: up some big plays, but I really liked watching them
Speaker 2: this season and FAU. They win ten of eleven to
Speaker 2: finish out the season. Another big play offense, so that
Speaker 2: could be a potential bad matchup for smu the best
Speaker 2: turnover margin in the nation. Liked Fau's linebackers a lot
Speaker 2: as I watched some clips of them, so I really
Speaker 2: wanted to take FAU. The coach thing hurts the fact
Speaker 2: that they're not, you know, traveling and get a big
Speaker 2: Bowl experience. I say thirty eight to thirty three smu
Speaker 2: Here so maybe in the twenties confidence wise.
Speaker 1: Lot of good players in this game, which made it
Speaker 1: hard for me to pick and apply my little formula
Speaker 1: because I really like what FAU has. But gonna go
Speaker 1: smu Here thirty one points.
Speaker 2: And this is what the Boca. I don't Hoca Ratone Bowl.
Speaker 2: I don't have a gift situation for the Boca Ratone Bowl.
Speaker 1: All the tart cherries you can eat from Cherubundie.
Speaker 2: Yeah you can get a bunch of tart and cherry juice,
Speaker 2: but I didn't see it listed here.
Speaker 1: It's great for gout. Okay, moving on the Chamellee Bowl
Speaker 1: December the twenty first, on ESPN, The Arkansas State red
Speaker 1: Wolves at seven and five the FIU Golden Panthers. I
Speaker 1: believe at six and six. Arkansas State comes into this
Speaker 1: one a two and a half point favorite. I went
Speaker 1: back and forth here. I've only got ten points on this.
Speaker 1: I have no idea who to pick. What I like
Speaker 1: about FIU is that they've got a good secondary, and
Speaker 1: it's their quarterbacks last game, so there's gonna be some motivation.
Speaker 1: But I think otherwise they didn't really beat anybody this year,
Speaker 1: like at all, and that's worrisome to me. I think
Speaker 1: Arkansas State's probably the better team here, and I was
Speaker 1: leaning in that direction. But quarterbacks, last game, good secondary,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go FIU. I'm only gonna put ten confidence
Speaker 1: points on it, though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not bad. I understand where your head is
Speaker 2: at Arkansas State wins four or five. They're a big
Speaker 2: passing team. Their defense okay, kind of below average. Laine
Speaker 2: Hatcher was a pretty promising fresh and a quarterback Omar
Speaker 2: Bayless total stud for same time. Dude loved watching him.
Speaker 2: He was the Sunbelt Offensive Player of the Year. I
Speaker 2: think you're you're right on FYU. They beat up on
Speaker 2: a bunch of bad teams. They ended the season in
Speaker 2: a bit uneven fashion, but they beat Miami. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go Arkansas State here thirty one twenty Yeah, okay, I
Speaker 2: get it. They're they're comfortably better. FIU is just weird
Speaker 2: year and weird gift suite situation kind chamelliable as well.
Speaker 1: Okay, what do we got?
Speaker 2: You got a fossil watch and ESPN branded Samsonite rolling
Speaker 2: bag and beanie. Is that like a rolling backpack because
Speaker 2: it doesn't sound like a rolling suitcase.
Speaker 1: So I've got my rolling bag that we got from
Speaker 1: one of our bull stops, right, and I use it
Speaker 1: every time we go to a different bowl game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I use that thing religiously. You get used out of
Speaker 1: it if it's like a rolling backpack or just free.
Speaker 1: Luggage in general is always pretty stellar in these gift suites.
Speaker 2: And then a football. Okay, that's it. Not bad.
Speaker 1: The luggage is key there.
Speaker 2: The luggages. Yeah, if you get used out of it.
Speaker 1: Sure. Also on the twenty first, a big day of
Speaker 1: bowl games, the mid Subishi Motors Las Vegas Bowl on ABC.
Speaker 1: It is Washington Huskies at seven and five. It is
Speaker 1: the Boise State Broncos at twelve and one. Washington is
Speaker 1: a three and a half point favored in the Chris
Speaker 1: Peterson Bowl, which is effectively what this is dan a
Speaker 1: close relative of a team losing its coach to another
Speaker 1: team is a successful coach randomly retiring and becoming an administrator. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't right the rules for this one, but it
Speaker 1: feels like it also somehow applies here. I think because
Speaker 1: of that, Washington's got a lot to play for. I
Speaker 1: also think Washington may be demonstrably better than Boise State.
Speaker 1: Like Boise State a lot here, but it feels to
Speaker 1: me like Washington may be undervalued in this matchup a
Speaker 1: three and a half point favorite. If I were a
Speaker 1: betting man, I'd be inclined to lock up Washington, okay
Speaker 1: and go all in on the Huskies here. I like
Speaker 1: them a lot in the spot. I think Chris Peterson
Speaker 1: final game, the whole nine yards thirty three points give
Speaker 1: me the Huskies to win and win by about ten
Speaker 1: to eleven points.
Speaker 2: Do you think that there is a let's win this
Speaker 2: for Coach Peterson elements in the Vegas Bowl, Like I understand,
Speaker 2: if it's happening in the Rose Bowl, it's going out
Speaker 2: on a high. Boise State is a very good team.
Speaker 2: They did lose to BYU. I think that was with
Speaker 2: Chase Kord starting at quarterback. It was not a Hank
Speaker 2: Bachmeyer or Jalen Henderson project. Sure, yeah, I think Boise
Speaker 2: State is going to struggle with Washington's defense. I think
Speaker 2: Jalen Henderson will struggle throwing into the teeth of that defense.
Speaker 2: I worry because I did watch that Oregon Boise State
Speaker 2: Vegas Bowl. When it's happening during we have signing day
Speaker 2: coming up. Coaching transition, Jimmy Lake probably has his hand
Speaker 2: in a bunch of different buckets trying to figure out
Speaker 2: the next phase of Washington football. As Chris Peterson is
Speaker 2: still trying to go out beat Boise State. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I went back and forth. Boise State loses Zach Hill,
Speaker 2: their offensive coordinator. He will not be coaching this game
Speaker 2: as he takes over at Arizona State the same job.
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go with. I think I'm gonna
Speaker 2: lean Washington still, I think they're gonna go out on
Speaker 2: a high. I think they're going to even though they
Speaker 2: ended the season what losing at Colorado, and obviously they're
Speaker 2: always gonna beat Washington State. But yeah, I think I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go with Washington here by a few points. I
Speaker 2: just think there are probably too many ways for them
Speaker 2: to win, and I don't think I fully trust Boise
Speaker 2: State's offense.
Speaker 1: The gift suite for the Vegas Bowl should be pretty
Speaker 1: damn good.
Speaker 2: It should.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it is, but it should.
Speaker 2: Be socks of beanie and a portable charger or what
Speaker 2: the gift suite at least include. Okay, Also, if you're
Speaker 2: going to this game, if you're a Washington fan or
Speaker 2: a Boise fan, lotus of Siam great Thai food in Vegas,
Speaker 2: off the strip. It's an actual you know, you're not
Speaker 2: dealing with the glitz and glamour. I've heard really good
Speaker 2: things about Well, I mean Poc Poc obviously, I've been to.
Speaker 2: You can get Hattie Bees. If you're into hot chicken,
Speaker 2: there's a Vegas location. If you want a nice Italian meal,
Speaker 2: Carbone a location of the New York restaurant, you're gonna
Speaker 2: eat very well in Vegas. That's it awesome.
Speaker 1: Twenty first, the RNL carriers New Orleans Bowl.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: It's on ESPN. It is app state at twelve to one.
Speaker 1: It is UAB the Blazers at nine and four. App
Speaker 1: State is a healthy, a meaty, a voluptuous, seventeen point favorite.
Speaker 1: Dan Yeah, no Eli Drinkwitz. Though, no Eli Drinkwitz. He's
Speaker 1: off to Missouri. This is one of those situations where
Speaker 1: I go against the formula because I think app State's like,
Speaker 1: way better here, way better. The UAB offense is capital
Speaker 1: be bad. The app State defense is pretty good. They've
Speaker 1: been solid all year. They've been solid all year every
Speaker 1: year for the last like eight years. This point, I've
Speaker 1: got forty points on app State. I don't think there's
Speaker 1: any need to overthink it here. I would not lay
Speaker 1: the seventeen points. That's a lot in bowl season when
Speaker 1: things tend to get a little wonky. But in terms
Speaker 1: of an outright victor, give me the Mountaineers, let's put
Speaker 1: forty points on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the quarterback edge obviously goes to app State. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go with app State big here as well. UAB
Speaker 2: just got demolished in the Conference USA championship game. FAU
Speaker 2: just took them out. I think I'm gonna go app
Speaker 2: State and yeah, couple here got it. What's their bull
Speaker 2: gift situation here in the New Orleans was RNL Carriers. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's I just see a gift suite that includes a
Speaker 2: fossil watch. Okay, so there you go. Yeah, go to
Speaker 2: uh Koshan or Koshan Butcher, anywhere you go to eat
Speaker 2: in New Orlean. It's gonna be great. It's just it's
Speaker 2: a bummer that it's not happening during crawfish season.
Speaker 1: Let's go to December twenty third.
Speaker 2: The bad boy meer is Gasparria bo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's on ESPN. It is UCF at nine and three.
Speaker 1: It is Marshall at eight and four. UCF is a
Speaker 1: seventeen point favorite. Here. This is my big guy by
Speaker 1: the way, this guy, oh, this is my forty one pointer.
Speaker 1: You know. Like the Marshall defense isn't bad. It's not bad.
Speaker 1: They only lost fourteen to seven to Boise back in
Speaker 1: Week two, but that was a week after Boise knocked
Speaker 1: off Florida State, So a bit of a letdown spot
Speaker 1: for the Broncos, and just specifically with this matchup. Marshall
Speaker 1: has not seen an offense like UCF, not even close, right,
Speaker 1: I think that offense overpowers Marshall. I don't think they
Speaker 1: can score with UCF. Again, I look at seventeen normally
Speaker 1: that puts me off. In bowl season, I think UCF
Speaker 1: is three or four touchdowns better here. I like them big.
Speaker 1: I like him to the tune of forty one confidence points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have had like forty four to twenty. I
Speaker 2: think they should win comfortably. Under reported story. I mean,
Speaker 2: UCF had a pretty good season. They finished nine to three,
Speaker 2: but when they were rolling, especially at home in the
Speaker 2: game is what the game's in Tampa, so not terribly
Speaker 2: difficult to get to from Orlando. The defense for UCF
Speaker 2: this year a great havoc d and on offense, Dylan
Speaker 2: Gabriel is the name. Obviously, people have come to learn
Speaker 2: over the course of the season. So the Dylan Gabriel
Speaker 2: to Gabriel Davis Gabriel to Gabriel connection very strong and Marshall,
Speaker 2: You're right it was. There are some impressive performances and
Speaker 2: wins and losses from Thundering Herd. They finished the season
Speaker 2: winning six of seven. Brendan knox Worth watching for the Herd,
Speaker 2: but ultimately UCF I think just too talented, too fast,
Speaker 2: too all over the place.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: Also, the gasp Gift suite includes n slash A. No, really,
Speaker 2: that's that's all I'm saying here.
Speaker 1: Bad boy mowers?
Speaker 2: Do you have a riding mower for year backyard?
Speaker 1: I have a Toro push mower. Toro not a sponsor.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you would qualify, Like, are you
Speaker 2: a bad boy mower or are you just kind of
Speaker 2: a good guy mower?
Speaker 1: I'm prop well, I'm probably more of a good guy mower. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a little too square to be a bad boy mower
Speaker 1: type of guy.
Speaker 2: Are there bad boy mowers on your block? Like, I'm
Speaker 2: not talking about the actual brand? Oh, we have out there.
Speaker 1: There's a guy who lives Catty Corner for me who
Speaker 1: exclusively mows his lawn at night with the headlight on
Speaker 1: on his riding mower.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, and.
Speaker 1: The thing, the thing is actually quite impressive. It zips
Speaker 1: around the yard at what feels like thirty miles an hour,
Speaker 1: so he gets it done in no time. But he
Speaker 1: only does it exclusively after let's say eight pm. Next game,
Speaker 1: let's jump ahead to Christmas Eve. Dan, Okay, I'd love
Speaker 1: to the Sofi Hawaii Bowl. They play it in Hawaii.
Speaker 1: It features Hawaii. It is BYU at seven and five.
Speaker 1: It is why at nine and five, BYU is a
Speaker 1: point and a half favorite. Was looking a little bit
Speaker 1: through BYU's resume. Dan, Yeah, what a weird year. Really
Speaker 1: weird year, right, h I remember we were talking about
Speaker 1: this team, like, uh, don't sleep on BYU. They beat Tennessee,
Speaker 1: they beat usc they beat Boise State. Those are three
Speaker 1: quality wins. Correct, Maybe not as quality as we thought
Speaker 1: at the beginning part of the year. But nonetheless, they
Speaker 1: also played and lost to Utah. They played and got
Speaker 1: mauled by Washington. It was a hell of a stretch
Speaker 1: for them, Yeah, in the early part of the season.
Speaker 1: But still to go seven and five knowing that they
Speaker 1: had that kind of AMMO on the schedule, I think
Speaker 1: is is notable. This is obviously a home game for Hawaii, yes,
Speaker 1: but keep in mind that BYU has a strong tradition
Speaker 1: pulling talent from the Pacific Islands, so maybe not quite
Speaker 1: as big a home field advantage as you might think.
Speaker 1: I think by is pretty good.
Speaker 2: BYU is decent enough. Their defense I think is ahead
Speaker 2: of their offense. They've had, you know, injury issues at
Speaker 2: quarterback these past couple of years. Yeah, I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: with BYU close here because they appear to be a
Speaker 2: little bit more balanced, you know, even beating Utah State
Speaker 2: and Liberty those are Bowl teams near the end of
Speaker 2: the schedule. Hawaii finished the season winning for a five,
Speaker 2: but their defense is the clear worst thing in this agreed,
Speaker 2: and I like that Hawaii they beat at Oregon State
Speaker 2: in Arizona early so they can their hangtime. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you have the sound is pretty decent, so yeah,
Speaker 2: I have by you winning this one close. Also a
Speaker 2: recommendation would be if you're going to this game, I
Speaker 2: don't have a specific restaurant, but try to find whoever
Speaker 2: serves the best loco moco. Do you know what that is? Locomotive,
Speaker 2: loco space mocho, no idea. Loco mocho is very popular
Speaker 2: in Hawaii. So it's a plate of I guess, steamed rice.
Speaker 2: There's lots of variations, but steamed rice and then a
Speaker 2: hamburger patty and then gravy on top of that, and
Speaker 2: then a Frida egg on top of that. Okay, So
Speaker 2: if you go out and really you really enjoy some
Speaker 2: tiki bars or whatever you're doing, BYU fans, I'm guessing
Speaker 2: won't be that hungover right, just a guess. But if
Speaker 2: you're going to this game you feel like some Loco Moco,
Speaker 2: even if it's not a hangover here, I say go
Speaker 2: for it. Loco Mocho delicious.
Speaker 1: I got twenty on BYU. I think it may also
Speaker 1: be close.
Speaker 2: I would go lower twenties, higher teens, Okay, but we
Speaker 2: agree yes. And gift wise the Hawaii Bowl, I'm seeing
Speaker 2: Kahala Aloha shirt great needs sense, need that Oakley backpack
Speaker 2: and sunglasses, performance tea, beach towel, and surf trunks. I
Speaker 2: think we've talked about this in years past. I am
Speaker 2: going to eventually be a Hawaiian shirts or at least
Speaker 2: Hawaiian shirt adjacent type person. Sure in my fifties. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I could see that. I could see that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also, you get to go to Hawaii if you're in
Speaker 1: this two, which is pretty cool. Final two games here,
Speaker 1: Let's go to December the twenty six That is the
Speaker 1: walk Ons Independence Bowl on ESPN. The Miami Hurricanes are
Speaker 1: six and six and a six and a half point
Speaker 1: favorite over Louisiana Tech, which closed out the year at
Speaker 1: nine and three. So I have two sets of numbers
Speaker 1: that helped me figure out point spreads, and in both
Speaker 1: cases it should be Miami by at least ten points.
Speaker 1: The fact that it is down to six six and
Speaker 1: a half is a little curious to me. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like the line is speaking to us here. And
Speaker 1: the other thing that I would add is, I know
Speaker 1: it's tempting to look at the records of the teams playing.
Speaker 1: I think the records here are very misleading. Miami clearly
Speaker 1: limped to the finish. They finished six and six on
Speaker 1: the year, really died down the stretch and losing to
Speaker 1: FIU and Duke and goodsecutive weeks. But the other games
Speaker 1: they lost against Florida, North Carolina, Georgia Tech, and Virginia Tech.
Speaker 1: We're all very close. If not for their collapse, this
Speaker 1: is probably an eight and four caliber team, all right,
Speaker 1: And I know you could say that about a lot
Speaker 1: of teams, but I just I feel like Miami is
Speaker 1: better than that six and six mark. And on the
Speaker 1: Louisiana Tech side, I think almost the exact opposite. This
Speaker 1: is more like a seven and five team, and without
Speaker 1: the offense that they've had in recent memory, I think
Speaker 1: it's a struggle bus for them to move the ball
Speaker 1: against still a really good Miami defense. So I like
Speaker 1: the Canes here. I grappled with this one a lot,
Speaker 1: but wow, gonna go Caines, gonna go thirty four confidence
Speaker 1: points and I'm not gonna think twice about it. So
Speaker 1: I'm going to take exception with a couple of points
Speaker 1: you made about Miami. Okay, Uh, losing to Georgia Tech
Speaker 1: close is not admirable.
Speaker 2: Okay. Georgia Tech are full on not good this year.
Speaker 2: Fair one might even call them bad in one of
Speaker 2: Jeff Collins and I presume that they're going to improve,
Speaker 2: but you shouldn't if you're Miami, even in your own
Speaker 2: year one, you shouldn't be losing in this version of
Speaker 2: George Tech.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So there is a very six and six elements of
Speaker 2: what Miami put forth onto the football field this season.
Speaker 2: As good as their defense was and is and looked
Speaker 2: at most times of the season, I know they had
Speaker 2: some coverage bus and gave up some bigger plays, but
Speaker 2: you know the quarterback position, you have offensive line improvement
Speaker 2: and collapse and all sorts of just it was such
Speaker 2: an inconsistent year almost quarter to quarter or drive to
Speaker 2: drive six and six feels pretty appropriate. You take some
Speaker 2: good you take some bad and there it is Miami.
Speaker 2: Miami is six and six, louisianattach. They did not finish
Speaker 2: the season well themselves. They lose to Marshall and UAB,
Speaker 2: two teams that are fine, but if you want to
Speaker 2: hang with a good defense, that's troublesome. I just think
Speaker 2: there is an element of Miami wanting the season to
Speaker 2: be over once again. And with that line movement, I
Speaker 2: actually do like Louisiana tack actually has a good defense.
Speaker 2: So I think I'm gonna take them by a field
Speaker 2: goal here. Not a ton of confidence, but I'm feeling it.
Speaker 1: I went back and forth so many times in this game,
Speaker 1: and to take those points, I know, I'm putting it
Speaker 1: out there and I'm gonna take Miami mm hmm, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put thirty four confidence points on it.
Speaker 2: Have fun.
Speaker 1: I don't feel good about it because of my final rule,
Speaker 1: which team wants to be there more right? And I
Speaker 1: do agree with you to the extent that with the
Speaker 1: way Miami closed out its year, it really did feel
Speaker 1: like they were just trying to get this thing over with,
Speaker 1: and especially with some of the expectations coming in. Manny
Speaker 1: Diaz could he reboot the program in year one, right,
Speaker 1: that did not happen, And no, it just is like
Speaker 1: do they want to be there?
Speaker 2: So it's the day after Christmas, Day after Christmas, which
Speaker 2: means they're spending Christmas away from home, whereas the games
Speaker 2: in Shreveport, Louisiana. So maybe masier for Louisiana tech players.
Speaker 2: They're celebrating Christmas to be with family, a better place emotionally.
Speaker 2: The gift suite includes timely watch companies, watch a Beanie,
Speaker 2: A History of the Bulls, I assume book. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: celebrating the good of the game and a football and
Speaker 2: by the way, walk Ons there's an there's a what
Speaker 2: is an apostrophe before the s, so that means it's
Speaker 2: somebody it's it's the walk Ons bar. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 2: singular person. Uh. It's also bistro with an eau x,
Speaker 2: which annoys me to no end, Okay, for no real
Speaker 2: good reason. So I don't know, man, I think I'm
Speaker 2: things are tilting. Things are tilting tech for me.
Speaker 1: Ah, I might change my mind on this one.
Speaker 2: Thirty four points on the twenty nineteen Miami team. I know,
Speaker 2: certainly I know a way to go about life. I
Speaker 2: don't know how far away Rustin is from Shreveport, but
Speaker 2: I imagine it's closer than Miami.
Speaker 1: It's like eating something late at night that just repeats
Speaker 1: on you. Miami thirty four points, Miami thirty four point. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: I reserved the right to change my mind on that one.
Speaker 1: Okay final game Quicklane Bowl, Oh, Okay, Quicklane Bowl. Also
Speaker 1: in the twenty sixth, also on ESPN, about an hour
Speaker 1: away Rustin, Louisiana, Oka. It is Pitt at seven and five.
Speaker 1: It is Eastern Michigan at six and six. Pitt is
Speaker 1: an eleven point favorite. I looked at the numbers. It
Speaker 1: seems like a pretty big mismatch here, and if I
Speaker 1: were a betting man, I think I'd lay the points.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling a big game for Kenny Pickett. I like
Speaker 1: his ability to capitalize on a very weak Eastern Michigan secondary.
Speaker 1: Let me Pitt, give me thirty six points.
Speaker 2: A lot of people feel like Pitt was right there
Speaker 2: about to score against Virginia Tech and it just never
Speaker 2: happened because they got their asses shut out. They were
Speaker 2: right there in that twenty eight nothing. They were, you know,
Speaker 2: knocking on the door of points. They lost two of
Speaker 2: three after their second by the pitt Panthers did, including
Speaker 2: that shutout. It's a stud defense though their defensive line
Speaker 2: is so good. Jalen twineman hell of a story, hell
Speaker 2: of an alignment. So there is something to I mean,
Speaker 2: if there's anything to love in this game, and if
Speaker 2: there's any singular reason to watch this game. When you
Speaker 2: say it's a quicklane bowl, quicklane Bowl, yeah, it's it's
Speaker 2: pit up front. They are just filthy. They get after quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: They shut down teams passing, and Eastern Michigan is a
Speaker 2: passing team. They're an efficient passing team. I don't know
Speaker 2: how much more they are than that. They finish six
Speaker 2: and six, and you know, Chris Creighton, it's always gonna
Speaker 2: be a good story to get Eastern Michigan to where
Speaker 2: they are as a bowl team from where they were.
Speaker 2: It's actually this the gift suite includes in this one,
Speaker 2: I am taking pit, but I think I don't feel
Speaker 2: great confidence about them because I don't love their offense.
Speaker 2: A Best Buy gift card at JBL E five five
Speaker 2: BT over ear wireless headphones by Harmon Sticker Genius life
Speaker 2: size photo slap decal for each participant of his likeness. Beautiful,
Speaker 2: so some sort of you know, you can throw it
Speaker 2: on a wall or whatever your own face. Who doesn't
Speaker 2: like that? A hoodie, a T shirt, a palm hat.
Speaker 2: I think that's like a beanie with a little palm
Speaker 2: on top, a backpack in tag football, and a mini helmet.
Speaker 2: Quick Lane coming in with a huge buy here Detroit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: good for them. There's good food in Detroit. I've had Buddies,
Speaker 2: which is the famous Detroit pizza place, and you can
Speaker 2: get your cony islands. You're sort of like chili adjacent dogs.
Speaker 2: I don't have a speci.
Speaker 1: I'm going on a limb that there aren't a whole
Speaker 1: lot of our listeners going to the quick Lane Bowl,
Speaker 1: but I could be wrong.
Speaker 2: That's so. I mean, I think we have Pitt listeners.
Speaker 1: We have a lot of Detroit listeners.
Speaker 2: I know that we do have Detroit listeners, and Troit's
Speaker 2: a fun time. I've enjoyed my time in Detroit. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Pitt here. Also, Ty,
Speaker 2: it should be noted if we're gonna talk about Pitt
Speaker 2: having a really fun angry defense and disappointing offense, It's
Speaker 2: been an unbelievable year for head coaches with really strong
Speaker 2: defensive bona fides not being able to figure out what
Speaker 2: to do with your team on offense. So between Derek
Speaker 2: Mason and Vanderbilt between let's see Pat Fitzgerald, Will must Champ,
Speaker 2: I'm swelling through a patn oardoozy obviously is the illusion there.
Speaker 2: I'm looking Rocky long at San Diego State, Justin Wilcox
Speaker 2: at Cal he had injuries to deal with, Mark D'Antonio
Speaker 2: at Michigan State, Gary Patterson at TCU. It's boom times tie.
Speaker 2: If you have a strong defensive background and you can't
Speaker 2: really figure out your own team's offense. All right, there
Speaker 2: you go, Barry otum missouf you're on offense.
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Speaker 2: Solid peace in front of me. I have a flyer.
Speaker 2: It's more of a package. You hear.
Speaker 1: I can hear the paper.
Speaker 2: You can hear it.
Speaker 1: Okay, yep.
Speaker 2: So I'm not going to say where this is from,
Speaker 2: but it is a supermarket chain, a national chain, which
Speaker 2: you have said is not your favorite, even though you
Speaker 2: don't have it near you.
Speaker 1: It's Trader Joe's.
Speaker 2: I'm not They're not a sponsor. It's not a sponsor
Speaker 2: that's coming out of your paycheck. I have featured products
Speaker 2: and you just tell me if they if they're Molana
Speaker 2: or not Molana. People hate that game, I know, but
Speaker 2: some people love it. So Triple Ginger Brew so an
Speaker 2: extra gingery tasting ginger ale. That sounds pretty good to you.
Speaker 1: I've had that and it's actually pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is pretty good. Yeah. Hold the cone, which
Speaker 2: is a dessert where it's basically instead of a full
Speaker 2: ice cream cone. It's like two thirds the size. The
Speaker 2: ice cream is just contained within and then the top
Speaker 2: is covered in chocolate, so it's like a more of
Speaker 2: a bite sized ice cream cone situation.
Speaker 1: I would consider eating that.
Speaker 2: Vanilla, chocolate or peppermint flavors available, gingerbread coffee. No, you're
Speaker 2: out on chocolate lava niocchi. Uh how does it turned
Speaker 2: to that?
Speaker 1: No? Ty, see you're intrigued. But see what I mean exactly?
Speaker 1: No ingredients that don't belong. No, well, this is this
Speaker 1: is a breakthrough, a culinary breakthrough.
Speaker 2: What's it called again? Chocolate lava and the okie?
Speaker 1: I mean, I am curious, I am curious, curious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go with mozzarella. What is that?
Speaker 1: I have no idea.
Speaker 2: A slice of low moisture mozzarella that's hand rolled with
Speaker 2: a slice of high quality Deli meats preshudo not for me.
Speaker 2: No mazza. Bacon wrapped scallops, I'm not a bacon has
Speaker 2: a brown sugar glaze on it.
Speaker 1: I love bacon, but I'm not big on scalops.
Speaker 2: So that you are not a moana on the No? No,
Speaker 2: are you big on truffle items? Ummm, I won't say
Speaker 2: big on truffle items. Okay, very big cheese bites with truffle.
Speaker 2: I like cheese bites. Sure. Do you know what a
Speaker 2: stroop waffle is? No idea. A stroop waffle is a
Speaker 2: thinly pressed waffle cookie type thing, and they make a
Speaker 2: thin cookie waffle cookie sandwich a little bit of caramel
Speaker 2: in between both of those layers.
Speaker 1: I'm familiar with Italian pitzels, which sounds somewhat similar but
Speaker 1: are probably thinner.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so you would be in on that though.
Speaker 2: A strop waffle with caramel, okay, sure. A festive chocolate collection,
Speaker 2: I mean chocolate, so sure, Horse radish and shive ridge
Speaker 2: cut potato chips sounds great to me.
Speaker 1: That sounds like it could be tough to put down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that could.
Speaker 1: Bacon wrapped porketta roast, No idea what that is?
Speaker 2: You don't know what porketta is. It's like a rolled
Speaker 2: side of pork. Gotta be pork, right, Yes, it's a
Speaker 2: rolled side of pork that you slice and generally you
Speaker 2: put it into sandwich form. Yeah, I'm out. Okay, that
Speaker 2: sounds reasonable though, doesn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yes, I was talking specifically about the pre made section
Speaker 1: I know who you are.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm referring to. We got strip waffle ice
Speaker 2: cream sandwiches. Ty, they're all in on stroup waffles. Okay,
Speaker 2: French onion soup bites with caramelized onion and Swiss cheese.
Speaker 1: I like French onion soup. I don't know how you
Speaker 1: put that in bite size form.
Speaker 2: Hum. It's a pliable doughe wrapper, so you get it's
Speaker 2: almost like a soup dumpling tie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 2: Mini cheesecake cones, I'm down with that. Yeah, let's go
Speaker 2: select harvest curated coffee from Brazil and Uganda.
Speaker 1: I'm out amount of coffee, A taste.
Speaker 2: Of Vermont organic maple syrup gift set sound maple syrup
Speaker 2: lover in your life.
Speaker 1: It sounds more expensive than it should be. Half dipped
Speaker 1: chocolate biscotti, I'm in on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, you sound pretty molana ish right now. I'm afraid
Speaker 1: to bring up Molana. We got such angry emails from
Speaker 1: people about it.