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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zigura.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 3: Let's do a live on a reaction Monday edition of

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Speaker 3: the program. I am merely Bo. He is the great

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Speaker 3: Z Doctor j Doctor Jason studio with us adjusting some cameras,

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Speaker 3: it seems there you go, he's got his fresh news

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Speaker 3: spectacles on. Looks great, he does it, looks great. He

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Speaker 3: really does well. Look it was.

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Speaker 4: Larry would say that would give him a lot of influence.

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Speaker 4: That was the whole thing.

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Speaker 5: That's great.

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Speaker 4: That's a great Episode's leon.

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Speaker 3: It was a great episode. Lots of good ones. You

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Speaker 3: need a laugh, Bud, You need a laugh. That was tough,

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Speaker 3: tough one down at the old stadium. And you know

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Speaker 3: the injuries starting to stack too. But there's there's a

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Speaker 3: lot that's happening. And you think about a Sunday after

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Speaker 3: a holiday, and you think about the first home start

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Speaker 3: of a rookie quarterback. That is certainly one of the

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Speaker 3: more famous rookie quarterbacks out there, and it goes in

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Speaker 3: the books twenty six to eight. It was just kind

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Speaker 3: of a slow strangulation by the forty nine ers mixed

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Speaker 3: in with a bunch of miscues on our end, and

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Speaker 3: kind of a performance that's a little bit becoming sort

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Speaker 3: of who we are at this point, this far in.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there were two things that happened. One was special teams,

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Speaker 6: and that has been a problem all year long, and

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Speaker 6: I really think.

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Speaker 4: Had special teams been.

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Speaker 6: Neutral for this season neutral, I think it's a good

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Speaker 6: chance for six and six right now, and that, believe

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Speaker 6: it or not, is good enough to be tied for

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Speaker 6: first place in this division. Yeah, I think we would

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Speaker 6: have beaten Cincinnati. I think we would have beaten the Jets,

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Speaker 6: and I think we had a legitimate chance to actually

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Speaker 6: win this game. They didn't have a touchdown drive of

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Speaker 6: more than thirty five yards in the game.

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Speaker 4: No, they did not.

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Speaker 6: So you're looking at this and you're saying yourself, so

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Speaker 6: that part is is typical. Now, the part that was

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Speaker 6: very atypical is that the final tally when the game mattered,

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Speaker 6: it was ten for fifteen. I think they ended up

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Speaker 6: eleven of seventeen, Is that right, Yeah, eleven of seventeen,

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Speaker 6: while the game was still kind of in the balance,

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Speaker 6: it was ten to fifteen. But we have not seen

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Speaker 6: a team convert two thirds of their of their third.

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Speaker 4: Downs against us all year.

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Speaker 6: In fact, going into the game, we'd allowed fifty third

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Speaker 6: down conversion out of one hundred and fifty and we

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Speaker 6: gave up ten now eleven total, but ten while the

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Speaker 6: game was still kind of you thought it mattered in

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Speaker 6: this game. So we've never seen a team perform on

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Speaker 6: third down against us like that. Look at this guy's

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Speaker 6: got gifts.

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Speaker 1: Look at them, look at them right off, look at them.

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Speaker 4: Give him a hand, Somebody just help.

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Speaker 3: That helps.

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Speaker 6: He's got box of the treats, which is gonna be good.

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Speaker 6: It's gonna give us joy after this. But I mean,

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Speaker 6: you give a sixty six yard punt return for a

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Speaker 6: short field touchdown, you muff a punt in your side,

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Speaker 6: your own ten, it gets set up a touchdown, and

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Speaker 6: then you have the other one was basically a turnout.

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Speaker 6: You botch a snap on you know, self inflicted wounds

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Speaker 6: is really the name of the game, because go back

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Speaker 6: to those third down conversions and go back to them

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Speaker 6: on those scoring drives. First scoring drive on third down,

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Speaker 6: you blow a coverage and leave Christian McCaffrey uncovered. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: then they convert it and then they end up scoring.

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Speaker 6: The second one you leave, You blow a coverage and

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Speaker 6: leave Kittle uncovered. They get down to the goal line,

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Speaker 6: you stop them first and second and then it's third

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Speaker 3: Honor quickly called and timed by the way.

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Speaker 4: Quite and then the third one was on third down.

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Speaker 6: Literally on third down, he throws a touchdown to Juwan Jennings,

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Speaker 6: So that that could be those are twelve points could

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Speaker 6: be off the board right there. Yeah, because those are

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Speaker 6: four point plays. Now, that still doesn't get you into

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Speaker 6: the math where you need. But nonetheless they shouldn't even

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Speaker 6: have been in those positions. Oh and the other special teams.

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Speaker 6: One which was stupefying was when Corley caught the ball

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Speaker 4: The ball's going out of bounce.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how he didn't have the time and

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Speaker 3: that's that point, I mean, because that it goes to

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Speaker 3: that's a thirty five yard mistake.

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Speaker 6: Thirty four plus sixty six on their turn. That's one

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Speaker 6: hundred yards of field position just wiped out in two

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Speaker 6: plays on special teams and the coach to do that.

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Speaker 3: But I know it's crazy that, but you do it like.

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Speaker 3: There's too many of those things that lead to it.

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Speaker 3: And when you have some of the offensive talent deficiency

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Speaker 3: that we have, and they're very real. Some of these

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Speaker 3: are things that you and I talked about all through

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Speaker 3: the off season. I mean, by god, the amount of

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Speaker 3: shows we did about is do we have enough weapons?

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Speaker 3: Do we have weapons? Do we have this? The answer

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Speaker 3: is that we don't, and we're not able to. When

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Speaker 3: able to make them. And so that set up for

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Speaker 3: a very small, delicate needle to thread from the jump.

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Speaker 3: So when you factor in mental mistakes, miscues, when you

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Speaker 3: factor in special teams and competence, all of these things,

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Speaker 3: this is who you are now. And you can't undo this.

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Speaker 3: It's too damn long into the season. It's December, buddy, Yep.

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Speaker 3: There aren't a lot of games left. This is the

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Speaker 3: home stretch, and at this point, this is who you

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Speaker 3: are as a football team. And you might win a

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Speaker 3: couple of games down the stretch. You might, but you're

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Speaker 3: not going to play meaningful football in terms of trying

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Speaker 3: to be in the hunt.

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Speaker 4: You should be in the hunt.

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Speaker 6: You should be Yeah, you should be six and six,

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Speaker 6: you should be tied for first You sure at five

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Speaker 6: and seven a game out? Yeah, Yeah, it's brutal. It's brutal,

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Speaker 6: and that one felt particularly tough, you know, and even

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Speaker 6: you have you know, you get the score, you get

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Speaker 6: the two, you go up eight seven, you're thinking, okay,

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Speaker 6: now we're gonna get the ball, start a second half,

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Speaker 6: and then you let them get all the way down

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and kick a field goal.

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Speaker 3: That was crazy. I mean you have that. That's the

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Speaker 3: middle eight. Yeah, you had a chance to ace the

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Speaker 3: middle eight. Yeah, and instead of going up eight seven

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Speaker 6: It's a tough, a little momentum, I think away from you,

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Speaker 6: it just was this was this was it was bad.

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Speaker 6: This was a bad performance defensively. Again, if you told

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Speaker 6: me you're gonna shut down Christian McCaffrey, which you did,

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Speaker 6: you're not going to allow the forty nine ers to

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Speaker 4: In the game. I think we're gonna win twenty six

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, and give Purty credit made some big

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Speaker 6: time throws on third down. We had multiple though coverage

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Speaker 6: breakups on third downs, which was not great, and they

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Speaker 6: executed better as good teams don't beat themselves. And this

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Speaker 6: is two years and two years in a row. Now, Yep,

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Speaker 6: we routinely, unfortunately are the reason and beat ourselves. We

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Speaker 6: had every reason to be in this game, every right

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Speaker 6: we the blunders were just catastrophic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and and to your point, it's it's been this

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Speaker 3: for a minute now and it's kind of become who

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Speaker 3: you are. What what did you make first home start

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Speaker 3: for shudor Sanders? Obviously it was a heavy run game

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Speaker 3: plan is that's the type of team that we are,

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Speaker 3: and quinch On ran hard and ran determined and was

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Speaker 6: It so the good was you know, early on, I

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Speaker 4: I thought they did a good job.

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Speaker 6: It was an iic se quinch on Judkins get back

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Speaker 6: involved in the passing game. He'd gone two games without

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Speaker 6: even a catch and didn't have a catch on four

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Speaker 6: shadors eight of eleven for ninety six yards and a

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Speaker 6: Now in the second half, and part of it this

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Speaker 4: You know, you look at it.

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Speaker 6: In the first half, five plays twenty one yards, ten

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Speaker 6: And on that ten play ninety yard drive, it was

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Speaker 4: It's tough.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you look at the Niners drives. The only

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Speaker 6: drive that produced thirty six yards all game was the

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Speaker 6: field goal drive at the end of the first half. Okay,

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Speaker 6: this is a Niners team that came into this game

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Speaker 6: leading the NFL in ten play or more drives. They

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Speaker 6: had more of those than any team in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: They had zero against us, none, zero zero. This isn't

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Speaker 6: a game that you should be getting blown out in.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not. Yeah, I mean, you know, I haven't

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Speaker 3: seen the All twenty two. I haven't seen those breakdowns yet.

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Speaker 3: But I thought there was only really one mistake I

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Speaker 3: bad sack. That was a tough one from a pocket

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Speaker 3: awareness standpoint. I don't know if they were plays to

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Speaker 3: the TV copy to see that. They shoot everything so tight,

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Speaker 3: so it's hard to know if there were plays there

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Speaker 3: that that weren't made. I thought the throw to Fannin

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Speaker 3: that that one goes for the touchdown. Obviously there's no

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Speaker 3: that provided when you made that play. But to your point,

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Speaker 3: in the second half, we were so incompetent that there's

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Speaker 3: no way of really knowing how any of it went.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it would just you just weren't on the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's what's frustrating.

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Speaker 6: And you have think about this, Miles Garrett puts on

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Speaker 6: one of the greatest moves. I think that you'll ever

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Speaker 6: I'm very disappointed with the way that we talked about it.

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Speaker 3: Oh catastrophic, catastrophic. No, yeah, it's yeah. And the crazy

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Speaker 3: That hasn't been a problem at all. It hasn't been

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Speaker 6: We were in the Detroit game, we punted away after

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Speaker 4: Yes, gentlemen, gentlemen, Bernie, Yes, I love it.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 7: Bernie Jersey picked it up this weekend. The great folks

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Speaker 3: You were going to get into that, all right, you're right,

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Speaker 7: And that's an understated comment about how you feel about things.

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Speaker 7: But when you shoot yourself in the foot, as a

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Speaker 3: Those issues that lose the game for you. Unfortunately.

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Speaker 7: Special teams are those areas where you know, it's great

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Speaker 3: I guess I don't even remember any of those. I

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Speaker 7: We went, we ran out there, we were on the

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Speaker 7: Because the pain and anguish of special teams mistakes is

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Speaker 6: That's it, exactly, yes, and it's very frustrating. It is

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Speaker 6: four touches, twenty four touches for seventy four scrimmage yardards

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Speaker 6: and against us, he had seventy four yards. I mean,

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Speaker 6: Special teams has I think in large part. Then there

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Speaker 6: are other things that we are deficient in. Do not

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Speaker 6: Special teams is in some ways derailed this season. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I think there are three games you legitimately say could

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Speaker 3: Win two of them.

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Speaker 6: If you're right, your game out, you're in the mix.

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Speaker 6: You're back in the in the hunt gred graphic. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: In that graphic, which made me very exciting happy on Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 4: It was great Jack, Look, we're in the hunt.

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Speaker 8: We're not eliminating.

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Speaker 6: Technically there was a chair, but they didn't even they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how do you one of the things that we said, Uh,

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Speaker 3: Of course, so you had you had a stretch with

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Speaker 7: which is a positive. Right, There's a lot of issues

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Speaker 7: As of this game he wasn't the problem. He's not

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Speaker 7: But I think he's giving you hope. He's making some

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Speaker 3: I think it's even more demoralizing.

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Speaker 4: And I have no.

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Speaker 3: Data to back this up, but just a feel as

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Speaker 3: someone who's watched a lot of football through the years.

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Speaker 3: I think it is more demoralizing when the defense has

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Speaker 3: to carry than when the offense.

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Speaker 4: Has to carry, of course, because its work.

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Speaker 3: Because when the offense has to carry, their attitude is attack, attack, attack, attack, attack,

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Speaker 3: or we're gonna score. Don't worry, we'll score again. All

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Speaker 3: I need is one play from you, right, I need

447
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Speaker 3: one sack. I mean that was the Bengals whole plan

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Speaker 3: this year. That didn't work because they had a bunch

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Speaker 3: of injuries, but their whole plan was we're gonna score

450
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Speaker 3: forty Trey Hendrickson is going to make two plays a

451
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Speaker 3: game that are game changers, that turn touchdowns into field goals,

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Speaker 3: one strip, sack fumble. We do that, we can win

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Speaker 3: the division and we'll never know if it would have

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Speaker 3: worked because they had all the injuries that they had

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Speaker 3: and and that is what it is. But they look

456
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Speaker 3: pretty good on Thursday. But when it's the other way,

457
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Speaker 3: it's not one or two plays that you need the

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Speaker 3: offense to make. You need a couple of drives and

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Speaker 3: it's relentless on the defense. Again, I have no data

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Speaker 3: to back that up, but just Miles.

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Speaker 6: Gets the same feeling it and you're right back on

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Speaker 6: now You're backed up in you and you said your tenure, like.

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Speaker 8: What do we do?

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Speaker 3: We go again?

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Speaker 6: We're doing this again. I want to ask one thing.

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Speaker 6: There's the great tars When the first year that Bubba

467
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Speaker 6: came in as a special teams coordinator, we signed Matt

468
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Speaker 6: Adams and Mike Ford to guys that are just straight

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Speaker 6: up professional special teams players.

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Speaker 4: We don't have that on this roster.

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Speaker 6: And I'm not saying making excuses for that, but that's

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Speaker 6: something that we've kind of always had.

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Speaker 4: Tony Brown, you know, last year.

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Speaker 6: We've always had those guys who were There are certain

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Speaker 6: guys that are in the league because they play special teams,

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Speaker 6: and we tried, I think this year to use you know,

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Speaker 6: our undrafted free agents on there and some of the

478
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Speaker 6: guys that are at the bottom of the rouster. We

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Speaker 6: don't have, you go on our fifty three. There isn't

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Speaker 6: somebody that's on this team solely because they were signed

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Speaker 6: here just to play special teams for the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 6: And I don't know if that's hurting us. It certainly

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Speaker 6: not helping us because we're struggling massively.

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Speaker 7: There's a few different philosophies. I think a lot of

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Speaker 7: coaches that come from, like the defensive side of the football,

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Speaker 7: the Bill Parcells, Bill Belichick Tree, they always want to

487
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Speaker 7: have three or four core professional special teams guys because

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Speaker 7: they've always believed in playing great on special teams and

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Speaker 7: winning with defense, you know, and then obviously you want

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Speaker 7: your offense to be as good as possible, but that

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Speaker 7: was always.

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Speaker 3: Kind of the formula.

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Speaker 7: And so when you want to win like that to quickly,

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Speaker 7: you're willing to invest in some of those guys, those

495
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Speaker 7: core team players that you know they might not be

496
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Speaker 7: able to contribute on offensive defense, but they feel like

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Speaker 7: special teams moves the dial enough to be able to

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Speaker 7: spend some money on those guys and you know, some

499
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Speaker 7: draft choices potentially, and then you keep them around as

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Speaker 7: they become veterans and those core teams guys that can

501
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Speaker 7: play all those units that aren't going to make those

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Speaker 7: critical mistakes. You know, they're not going to be the

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Speaker 7: greatest athletes on the team, but they're super reliable and

504
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Speaker 7: in that area of football, it's super important not to

505
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Speaker 7: turn the football over, not to have penalties because it

506
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Speaker 7: is such a game changer and there's so many hidden

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Speaker 7: yards in there. And I think with this team's philosophy,

508
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Speaker 7: which is a philosophy a lot of young teams that

509
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Speaker 7: are trying to build have, is like, we'd rather not

510
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Speaker 7: spend money and resources on a special teams guy who's

511
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Speaker 7: not going to be here once the rebuild is done

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Speaker 7: and we feel like we're making our run because we'd

513
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Speaker 7: rather have those four positions or three positions for roster

514
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Speaker 7: spots of development, receiver, development, cornerback, and then we'll teach

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Speaker 7: them the special teams. Yeah, we might have some mistakes,

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Speaker 7: but you know what, we weren't going to win the Super

517
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Speaker 7: Bowl this year anyway, so I'd rather find out about

518
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Speaker 7: those guys, use those positions to be able to kind

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Speaker 7: of develop somebody for the future.

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Speaker 6: It's tough. It's just this year in particular, it just is.

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Speaker 6: I think it's really kind of unfortunately come to roost

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Speaker 6: a little bit for us because you mentioned those yards

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Speaker 6: hitting yards. Think about a sixty six yard punt return,

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Speaker 6: and then you have one where you catch the ball

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Speaker 6: and step out of bounds on your own six that

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Speaker 6: would have gone out of bounds, that's.

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Speaker 4: Thirty four yards.

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Speaker 6: That's a hundred You just give one hundred yards, and

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Speaker 6: most coach would say a hundred yards were seven points, right, Like,

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Speaker 6: it's hard to overcome those things. We're not explosive enough

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Speaker 6: to just be giving points away. And the team, like

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Speaker 6: the Niners, the Niners had every reason to lose that game,

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Speaker 6: thirteenth consecutive game that they played, played on Monday night,

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Speaker 6: Thanksgiving week.

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Speaker 4: They got to go on the road. Now, fly across

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Speaker 4: the country. Here.

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Speaker 6: The weather's nasty. It was not pleasant down on the

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Speaker 6: field at all. The wind was whipping, it was cold,

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Speaker 6: it was that's not forty nine ers weather, it's not.

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Speaker 6: And I think had we gone in the half eight

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Speaker 6: to seven and maybe we put another score coming out

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Speaker 6: of the half, things are different. But we give up

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Speaker 6: that field goal and then we have a bunch of

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Speaker 6: blunders in the second half. It just they had every

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Speaker 6: reason to lose a game byes the next week like

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Speaker 6: this is We're already on vacation, right, We're gonna go

547
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Speaker 6: beat the Browns, and we beat ourselves to their benefit.

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Speaker 4: Very frustrating.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is, it is, and it's hard to I mean,

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Speaker 3: you think about the remaining schedule. You have the Titans

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Speaker 3: here on Sunday, then you're at the Bears.

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Speaker 4: The number one seed in the NFC right now. Correct.

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Speaker 3: By the way, here's a pretty interesting one. Do you

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Speaker 3: know if if they win tonight, the Patriots will be

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Speaker 3: the number one seed right in the morning in the AFC.

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Speaker 3: It is forty years since the eighty five Bears. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And who do they play in the Super the Patriots?

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Speaker 3: The Patriots?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they'd be something in that doc. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You imagine if like all of that came together some

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Speaker 3: now the Bears are the one seed. It's crazy. This

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Speaker 3: is an upside down year in the league. There's a

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Speaker 3: lot of crazy stuff that's happened. This plan was always

564
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Speaker 3: one that was going to be predicated on elite defense.

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Speaker 3: It was going to be predicated on field position. It

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Speaker 3: had to have clean special teams, and we haven't. And

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Speaker 3: that is what you are sitting there at three to

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Speaker 3: nine in the bottom of the North, with pretty ambitious

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Speaker 3: schedule left. Certainly the Bears, the Bills, and the Steelers

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Speaker 3: are all going to be playing for something in their games.

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Speaker 3: And then at Bengals, who knows. I mean, they beat

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Speaker 3: Baltimore if they can go on a little bit of

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Speaker 3: a run. Neither Pittsburgh nor Baltimore run away from this,

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Speaker 3: so it might be nine wins that does it. In

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Speaker 3: the AFC North, it's hard to say the way how

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Speaker 3: things have gone. We got a ton of injuries in

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Speaker 3: this one too. Dylan Sampson calf injury. He is day

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Speaker 3: to day. Wyatt Teller calf injury. He is weak to week,

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Speaker 3: so he is going to miss Sunday. Jack Conklin goes

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Speaker 3: in concussion protocol. I didn't see the play that that

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Speaker 3: happened in I just saw the noted on the broadcast

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Speaker 3: that he was out with concussion. I didn't see the

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Speaker 3: play MALIEK Collins, and this is the one that breaks

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Speaker 3: your heart because he was having a transcendent year. A

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Speaker 3: quad injury that's going to require surgery and he has

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Speaker 3: done for the year.

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Speaker 6: It's kind of weird to me, apropos of nothing. It

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Speaker 6: just seems odd. In the last three weeks we've lost

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Speaker 6: Alex right for a quad, Aiden Huntington quad and now

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Speaker 6: Leek Collins season quad. Is that a common I don't

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Speaker 6: remember a lot of quads.

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Speaker 3: No, I can't think of.

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Speaker 7: Maybe just a couple guys that have had a quad

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Speaker 7: tear when I was here. Yeah, but I think it's

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Speaker 7: pretty serious from what I understand from Lakes, Like, you

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Speaker 7: tear it, there's.

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Speaker 3: Surgery and like that's a long rehab. Yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 3: You don't hear about it much.

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Speaker 4: No, that's a it's an odd one. Who knows why.

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Speaker 4: I mean, for the most part, we've been pretty healthy

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Speaker 4: this year.

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Speaker 3: And then I know the calf injuries are being treated

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Speaker 3: differently because it's a precursor to achilies, so a lot

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Speaker 3: of people are a lot more cautious for and I

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Speaker 3: don't know. We have a million theories as to why

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Speaker 3: there's more Achilles tears now.

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Speaker 4: Than they're faster and tendons aren't.

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Speaker 3: Tendons are. That's always what we It's pretty simple like

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Speaker 3: tendons or tendons might need to rest our, rest their

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Speaker 3: bodies a little bit, maybe not do the year round

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Speaker 3: training stuff all the time. Those are you Hot topics

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 9: Injury front, Malik Collins has a quad injury that will

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Speaker 9: require surgery, so he will be out for this season.

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Speaker 9: So very disappointed for Malik, and he's obviously been playing

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Speaker 9: such good football and he provides great leadership for this

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Speaker 9: football team. So disappointed for him, but he will bounce back.

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Speaker 9: Dylan Sampson has a calf injury. Let's say he's day

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Speaker 9: to day. Jack Conklin remains in concussion protocol. Wyatt Teller

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Speaker 9: has a calf injury. That's I'd call it week to week,

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Speaker 9: So we'll see how those guys come out of it

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Speaker 9: in the next few days.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, like we talked about yesterday.

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Speaker 9: Did not play complimentary football, and we did too many

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Speaker 9: things that make it hard to beat a good team.

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Speaker 5: It's not about one play.

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Speaker 9: There's not one play that I'm talking about, but just

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Speaker 9: in general, as a team, we have to play complimentary

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Speaker 9: football and that'll be our focus. That's something that we're

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Speaker 9: watching the tape right now, pointing it out in ways

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Speaker 9: that we can be better offensively, defensively, special teams with that.

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Speaker 10: I'll take any questions, Hey, Kevin Gage, he fumbled one punt,

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Speaker 10: muffed another, and then he lost a third on a muff.

656
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Speaker 10: Did you think about replacing him at any point with anybody?

657
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Speaker 5: You know? Gage is a young player that I have

658
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Speaker 5: faith in. I trust.

659
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Speaker 9: He's been very dependable this season, Jeff. He's played in

660
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Speaker 9: some some of the conditions that we've had down there

661
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Speaker 9: in previous games have been tough. Obviously, the muff those

662
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Speaker 9: are one of the easy ones that that he just

663
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Speaker 9: didn't make in this game. But I trust him. The

664
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Speaker 9: other time he had one of our players bumped into him,

665
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Speaker 9: and then he needs to secure the ball on that

666
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Speaker 9: third one, like you mentioned. But this is a young

667
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Speaker 9: player that I feel that he is getting better throughout

668
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Speaker 9: this season. We trust him, he'll keep working and that's

669
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Speaker 9: all it is, all right, Thank you.

670
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Speaker 11: Hey Kevin, when you went back and watched those fourth

671
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Speaker 11: and ones, what stood out to you as far as

672
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Speaker 11: why didn't work?

673
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Speaker 9: Yeah, we we need to do a better as coaches

674
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Speaker 9: to give our guys an opportunity there. Of course, we

675
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 9: can execute better all those type of things. That's been

676
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Speaker 9: an area where we've been, you know, have had some

677
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 9: success this season, and some of those third and one,

678
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 9: fourth and one situations we did not yesterday, So you

679
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 9: got to give credit to San Francisco, but there are

680
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 9: definitely things that we can do better on our end.

681
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Speaker 11: In the same for that long punt return, I know

682
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 11: we talked about all year when it's happened, but what

683
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 11: did you see on yesterdays?

684
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Speaker 9: Yeah, we leveraged the ball well, we just got to

685
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 9: make a play. Somebody's got to get that guy on

686
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Speaker 9: the ground where we're in good shape. We just didn't

687
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Speaker 9: We leveraged well, but at the point of attack, we

688
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 9: we did not play together there to get that one

689
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Speaker 9: on the ground.

690
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 5: Thanks.

691
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Speaker 12: Yeah, Kevin, just wondering after you watched the film of Chadur,

692
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Speaker 12: what are some things that you saw him build on

693
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Speaker 12: from the week before. And then a follow up to

694
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Speaker 12: that is, you know what, what is maybe the wisdom

695
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 12: in kind of taking this thing week to week if

696
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Speaker 12: you're still doing that.

697
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Speaker 9: Yeah, again, Shador had some really good moments in that

698
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 9: football game. There are things that he wants back that

699
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 9: we're coaching up right now that he can improve upon.

700
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 9: But bottom line is we have to continue to put

701
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 9: our players in position to succeed. For the young quarterback,

702
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 9: you only get better with more turns at this thing

703
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 9: in these games, as you see more coverages, as you

704
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 9: see more defenses, and as you prepare versus different defenses.

705
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Speaker 9: So just looking forward to that constant improvement with Shador

706
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Speaker 9: and for all of our young players.

707
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Speaker 12: And just the notion of kind of just not looking

708
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Speaker 12: beyond this week, is that still your strategy for this

709
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Speaker 12: and what is the thinking behind that?

710
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm just dealing with our football team week to week.

711
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Speaker 9: But I'm pleased with his progress. He knows he wants

712
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 9: to continue to get better and better, and that's the

713
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 9: right attitude to have, and that's why we'll continue to work.

714
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Speaker 3: Thank you, all right, Kevin.

715
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Speaker 13: On the fourth and one from your thirty three Teller

716
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 13: was coming in. He hadn't been on that, and I

717
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Speaker 13: know you wanted to get the play off and kind

718
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 13: of quick snap them, but were you close to calling

719
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Speaker 13: a timeout at all?

720
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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, had the injury to Jack, which had

721
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Speaker 9: some moving parts with kat and so had Wyatt out

722
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Speaker 9: there late, which that's you know, that's something that we

723
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 9: need to be better about as a as an offensive units,

724
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Speaker 9: as coaches, as players. You know, had an eye on

725
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Speaker 9: it felt like we were going to get the snap off.

726
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Speaker 9: Obviously we didn't execute in that situation. I want to

727
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Speaker 9: make sure that I'm always putting our players in positions

728
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Speaker 9: to succeed. You know, it's a situation where you don't

729
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 9: want to use your timeouts in the second half if

730
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Speaker 9: you don't have to, if you can get the playoff.

731
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Speaker 9: But obviously, well we didn't get what we wanted there,

732
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Speaker 9: which is disappointing. So always thinking about if there's better

733
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 9: ways in those situations to put our guys in position

734
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Speaker 9: to go get it.

735
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Speaker 13: And Malakai Corley catching the ball at the five, what

736
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 13: was his explanation was he confused about the rule.

737
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Speaker 9: Or he knows the rule, He's well aware of the rule.

738
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Speaker 9: He made a mistake again, and that's what I said earlier.

739
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 9: It's this, these games are never about one player. One person.

740
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Speaker 9: He's a young player that will he'll learn from that

741
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Speaker 9: and he'll be better.

742
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Speaker 14: Kevin kind of sticking with the special teams. Grant Elfit

743
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 14: said last night after the game that it was it's

744
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 14: not so much of things need to change in preparation.

745
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Speaker 14: It's hard to prepare on special teams. You just kind

746
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 14: of have to make plays and give the effort. Would

747
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Speaker 14: you agree with that? And do you feel like there

748
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 14: maybe is more that you Ice can do in a

749
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Speaker 14: week to clean up some of those whether it's returning

750
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Speaker 14: or coverage on returns, to clean up some of those

751
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Speaker 14: special teams blunders.

752
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Speaker 9: Well, I think definitely a trust in the way that

753
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Speaker 9: we prepare, a trust in how we get our guys ready,

754
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Speaker 9: and we'll always look at if there's better, if there's

755
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 9: things that we can do differently, we'll always look at

756
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Speaker 9: that cam in the structure.

757
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Speaker 5: Of what we do.

758
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Speaker 9: But I feel like we do a good job getting

759
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Speaker 9: our guys prepared and then the efforts there, we just

760
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 9: got to get those guys on the ground. That's obviously

761
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 9: disappointing in those moments but again, it's about getting it

762
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Speaker 9: out of our guys, whether that's going to come from

763
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Speaker 9: the meeting room, the practice field, et cetera. I trust

764
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Speaker 9: that our guys will work and will improve.

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Speaker 14: And then with Malik, I know, obviously a blow to

766
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Speaker 14: the interior, but also we've talked so much about how

767
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Speaker 14: he's impacted, what Miles has been able to do, what

768
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Speaker 14: the what the Edge has been able to do, and

769
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Speaker 14: how that trickles back. So one, how big of a

770
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Speaker 14: loss is it to the entire defense to lose a

771
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Speaker 14: guy who's playing like he like Malik was, And then

772
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Speaker 14: how do you plan on maybe addressing his absence?

773
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Speaker 9: Sure, well, when you lose a guy like Malik, you

774
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 9: don't replace him. You know, everybody's just got to step up.

775
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 9: It's multiple guys that have to step up. But he's

776
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 9: made a big impact on this football team on the

777
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 9: field and off the field. I think our young room,

778
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 9: you know, we have some older guys in there, but

779
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 9: we have a lot a bunch of young guys in there.

780
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Speaker 9: I think they've learned a lot from the professional that

781
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Speaker 9: Malik is on a day in, day out basis, and

782
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Speaker 9: I think you have to carry that with you throughout.

783
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Speaker 15: Gon and Shador met Braids the point after the game yesterday.

784
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Speaker 15: Just in terms of building time on task with Jerry

785
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Speaker 15: and building more of a trust level with him. In

786
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Speaker 15: terms of a quarterback young quarterback with receivers, how much

787
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Speaker 15: of that is practice and how much is maybe meeting room,

788
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 15: watching film? Just what is the process in terms of

789
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Speaker 15: building now?

790
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's all of the above.

791
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 9: I think it's definitely been on the same page as

792
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 9: an offense, and that comes in meetings and walkthroughs and

793
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 9: understanding concepts and what we're trying to do in those

794
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 9: type of things. And then time on task on the

795
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 9: football field and practice and routs versus air and games.

796
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Speaker 5: I think all of that adds up.

797
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Speaker 16: Hey, Kevin, I want to ask you about why and

798
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 16: the calf injury. When exactly did the injury initially occur?

799
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Speaker 16: And I guess answer that then I'll move on to

800
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Speaker 16: my six court Na.

801
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm not entirely sure when I can picture happening

802
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 9: on film, but I don't know the exact play.

803
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 16: How much the decision to go with Tevin and rotate him. Man,

804
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 16: how early in the week did you kind of decide

805
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 16: to go with that, and just was that based on

806
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 16: what you saw with Tevin in practice or what you

807
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 16: were seeing with Wyatt, you know, during the course of

808
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 16: the season.

809
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

810
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 9: Obviously, with decisions like that, I always make sure, I,

811
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 9: you know, talk to our players and let them know

812
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 9: what I'm thinking. I felt like it would help Wyatt

813
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 9: play better, and obviously I think Tevin's deserving of some plays,

814
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 9: and I thought both guys played really well yesterday.

815
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Speaker 5: Thanks Kevin.

816
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 17: We heard after the game from from Shelby and Miles

817
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 17: just about sort of the incident that that sort of

818
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 17: broke out when Week got hurt with with Juwan Jennings

819
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 17: and some things that were said. They kind of used

820
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 17: the word like disparaging towards.

821
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Speaker 4: Some of their players.

822
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 17: I just want to ask you, like, you know, you

823
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 17: talk so much about your even keel approach to things.

824
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 17: First of all, did you did you Were you happy

825
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 17: with the way that they kind of handled that that

826
00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 17: it didn't get out of hand, And how do you

827
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 17: sort of make sure that that even keel approach rubs

828
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 17: off on your guys so those situations don't escalade.

829
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 9: Yeah. I don't have much to add there. Spencer obviously

830
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 9: was just focused on Malik in that moment.

831
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Speaker 12: Yeah, Kevin, just wondering, did you see that there was

832
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 12: a sideline confrontation that happened between Shador Sanders and Jerry Judy.

833
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 12: And I know that that's part of football that those

834
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 12: kind of things do happen, but I'm just wondering, you

835
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 12: know what, what you not only thought of that, but

836
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 12: what do you think is kind of going on with

837
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 12: Jerry Judy in this season where it's just not going

838
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 12: for him the way that he would have expected or

839
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 12: that I guess you guys would have expected.

840
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think, like you mentioned Mary Kay, you know,

841
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 9: football is an emotional sport, and certainly you can when

842
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 9: you're a family like we are, you can have your

843
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 9: disagreements sometimes there for everybody to see. Sometimes it's behind

844
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 9: closed doors, but like a family, we move on, we

845
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 9: talk about it, so not worried about it.

846
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 18: Yeah, If why it is healthy enough to play, do

847
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 18: you anticipate continuing that that right guard rotation?

848
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 5: Yeah?

849
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 9: Why he's out this week, so I we'll see as

850
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 9: we get going.

851
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 18: Got you, And then my next question is, you know

852
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 18: there's I guess week fourteen, is there any plans to

853
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 18: open Deshaun Watson's practice window and if not, is it

854
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 18: fair to assume that he will not be returning in

855
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 18: any capacity this season?

856
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 5: Yeah? I just I don't have an update there, Daniel.

857
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 18: Do you not have an update because you know you're

858
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 18: there hasn't been en update in terms of checking out

859
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 18: in his physical process, or is it not an update

860
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 18: because you just don't know yet.

861
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 5: I just don't have an official update on that.

862
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 3: Ken.

863
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Speaker 11: Going back to the Sugar and Jerry thing, just how

864
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 11: important is them to be seeing the things on the

865
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 11: same page?

866
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Speaker 2: Right?

867
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 11: Look, it felt like they were looking at the same

868
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 11: thing and saw two different things. So how important is

869
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 11: that for the quarterback and the receiver to read everything

870
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 11: the same way?

871
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 5: Yeah?

872
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 9: Again, that's nothing new in football when you have plays

873
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 9: that you know, see things and you want to talk

874
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 9: through it. But that those come up every single game,

875
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Speaker 9: truly with and sometimes it can be you know, two

876
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 9: offensive linemen saw play a little bit differently and you

877
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 9: got to look at the tape and get on the

878
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 9: same page.

879
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 5: So that's all it is.

880
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 11: And then on that first sect shooter took it looked

881
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 11: like you guys were right on the edge of field

882
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 11: goal range. What's kind of the coaching point about that?

883
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 11: Not taking a sack there, getting the you know, getting

884
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 11: rid of the ball earlier or whatever.

885
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a learning moment, you know, well with all

886
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 9: of our players, young players, young and old players, quarterbacks

887
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 9: and otherwise, you just got to coach your guys up

888
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 9: on situational ballm and what we're trying to accomplish in

889
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 9: those moments.

890
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 5: But he'll definitely learn from that.

891
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 12: Yeah. Just in addition to the fact that you know,

892
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 12: Jerry hasn't been able to necessarily or that shoulder and

893
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 12: Jerry haven't necessarily been able to connect, how can you

894
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 12: guys sort of accelerate the development with other primary receivers

895
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 12: such as said Tillman, you know, maybe David Njoku. It

896
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 12: just seems like there's a lot being left out on

897
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 12: the field in that regard.

898
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think, listen, we'll just keep working. I think,

899
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 9: Mary kay, that's probably the main thing. And like you mentioned,

900
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 9: there's guys in this football team, multiple guys in this

901
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 9: football team that we trust that we feel really strongly

902
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 9: about in the past game and we'll just continue to

903
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 9: work here in Burree and then take that work to

904
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 9: the game.

905
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 5: Field on Sundays. Thanks guys, all.

906
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 3: Right, Next up, it will be Tennessee here on Sunday.

907
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: Coming up next, a wild weekend in football, pro and college.

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Speaker 3: join today. There was a lot in the football world

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Speaker 3: this weekend. What other than us, what most intrigued you?

923
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: I mean, you had the Thursday night stuff was Thursday

924
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving stuff was incredible.

925
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Speaker 4: I know We're to do some NFL stuff. Yeah, we

926
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Speaker 4: even't got to get back to that.

927
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 3: The Chiefs Cowboys game was had so much at stake

928
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Speaker 3: for both of them, and then that led into rivalry weekend,

929
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Speaker 3: and honestly one of the most I was envious, as

930
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 3: someone who does content around college football that the Lane

931
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Speaker 3: Kiffin situation did not happen in the Big Ten. I

932
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 3: would have killed for that. I would have killed for that.

933
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Speaker 4: All right, so will you.

934
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 6: We've talked about this and college football made is apoplectic

935
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 6: about it.

936
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 4: Oh wow?

937
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 3: Does he rears ugly head every now and then?

938
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Speaker 6: Here on highest straight segments in the history of.

939
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Speaker 3: Radio, in the history of radio.

940
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 4: I'm not tore down.

941
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 6: Started off just knowledge by asthmosis, just sitting next to

942
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 6: But now I got my own takes the fact that

943
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 6: and tell me if I have this wrong.

944
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 4: But so he's going to go to l s U.

945
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, seven years, ninety one million. Okay. Also, by the way,

946
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 3: are going to pay his bonuses if ole Miss makes

947
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: a run the bonuses and his old Miss contract upwards

948
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 3: of a million dollars. LSU's paying those.

949
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 4: Oh wow, but he is now no longer coaching.

950
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 3: No, he left ole Miss. No, he left in fact,

951
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 3: they rolled his clothes out into the street. Oh yeah,

952
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 3: it's gotten spiteful and lovely waiting outside the fans are

953
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 3: waiting out to tell him he's number one as he

954
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 3: was getting on a plane. I mean, it was unreal.

955
00:43:58,600 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 4: Could you imagine?

956
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 6: Okay, if Kyle Shanahan after beating us was like, you

957
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 6: know what this year like, I'm really feeling what's going

958
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 6: on with the Bears. Yeah, I'm leaving the Niners and

959
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 6: I'm going to go coach the Bears the rest of

960
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 6: the way. Like the idiotcy that this is allowed, that

961
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 6: the calendar accept that there should be no portals, no transactions,

962
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 6: nothing until the championship game is played, and then the

963
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 6: day after the championship game open season. They like this guy,

964
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 6: it's absurd that he doesn't get to coach this out

965
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 6: with old Miss.

966
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 3: It is. It's absurd that that's the case. It is.

967
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 3: I also don't blame ole Miss. I wouldn't want him

968
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 3: near my roster. I wouldn't want him near my staff.

969
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want him near my quarterbacks. I wouldn't want.

970
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 4: Him near any of it.

971
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 3: So I don't mind him asking if I can coach.

972
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 3: I also don't mind them telling him no, no, you can't.

973
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 3: He shouldn't be allowed to leave right now.

974
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 4: I did this.

975
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 3: I can do this in one minute. I can fix

976
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 3: the whole thing. And I don't understand why the NCAA

977
00:44:59,440 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 3: hasn't done this.

978
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 4: So I understand why the conferences don't get together and

979
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 4: be likely.

980
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 3: Because they don't. They don't agree on things.

981
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 6: Listen, why the sec within the secs be like, nobody

982
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 6: take anybody else's coach until after the National CHAMPIONSA.

983
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 3: This is ridiculous in that league. Yeah, it's ridiculous that

984
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 3: that league is NASCAR. If you ain't treat cheating, you

985
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 3: ain't trying as that league.

986
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 4: So there's no.

987
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 3: Honor among thieves down there. The simple way to fix

988
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 3: this is you take week one and you make it

989
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 3: week zero, so you just move the whole season back.

990
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 3: You play the Ohio State Michigan game, the Minnesota Wisconsin

991
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 3: game on Thanksgiving the Saturday before Thanksgiving last weekend. This

992
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 3: weekend is Army Navy. Then you play the next weekend.

993
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 3: You start the college football Playoff and you do it

994
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 3: the following weekend. The next weekend, then you take a

995
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 3: week off for the holiday. Then you play the semifinals

996
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 3: on New Year's Eve, New Year's Day, National Championship the

997
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 3: first Saturday night afterwards, then you open the portal. Then

998
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 3: you move signing day back to February instead of this

999
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 3: signing days this week. Really, so there's not a second

1000
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 3: signing period. There is, but nobody. Nobody just don't want

1001
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 3: it because they want the kids on campus in January.

1002
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 3: And so the only sacrifice college football coaches would make

1003
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 3: is they would not get the early in rolelies. And

1004
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 3: if you just did that, what happened with Kiffen wouldn't

1005
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 3: have happened. It wouldn't have happened. And if you think

1006
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 3: that's something, there's more coming. There are going to be

1007
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 3: players who say, like there's already whispers that there's a

1008
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 3: certain player at Alabama that is would be really sought after,

1009
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 3: that is being offered in the millions to transfer now

1010
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 3: to LSU, Like that's happening now. Bama's playing for the

1011
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 3: SEC title Saturday. By the way, game nobody wants to play.

1012
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 3: Ohio State is playing Indiana Saturday, number one versus number two.

1013
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 3: Nobody wants to play in.

1014
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 4: This game, yeah said, who wants to sit everybody?

1015
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1016
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 4: Why, what's the point doesn't matter.

1017
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the calendar, the adults that a sacked it,

1018
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 3: like one of them is going to be the one

1019
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 3: one will be the four So.

1020
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 4: They're both gonna be a buyers regardless.

1021
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1022
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 3: I mean they're the only two undefeated teams left. So

1023
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 3: the winner will be the one seed, the loser will

1024
00:46:58,440 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 3: be the four seed.

1025
00:46:59,120 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 4: And you'll go from that.

1026
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 3: It's crazy. It's just it's such as I fixed it

1027
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 3: though in a minute. Yeah right, it's just no fun

1028
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 3: fixed it's it's and yet it's so much fun as

1029
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 3: someone who talks about it. It is like, can you

1030
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 3: imagine if Kurk Signetti at Indiana like this week was

1031
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 3: like you know what, I'm a Pennsylvania kid, I'm gonna

1032
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 3: go coach penn State. Yeah, I mean I would love it,

1033
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 3: not for Indiana folks, but just for like the chaos

1034
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 3: of it. I would love that.

1035
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 4: But shouldn't.

1036
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 6: Like, what's the point of even starting the season with

1037
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 6: a team that old Miss team, that's Lane Kiffin's old

1038
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 6: Miss team, that should it is gonna be in the playoff.

1039
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna be a the six or seventh seed.

1040
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 4: Yeh should have a chance to win national title. He

1041
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 4: recruited that team, he coached that team.

1042
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 6: He deserves to see that through, but he shouldn't be

1043
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 6: able to leave right now.

1044
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 3: Well, Joe's neighbors with the guy who did what Lane

1045
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 3: Kiffen did not do, Luke Fickle. Luke Fickle had the

1046
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 3: honor to coach Cincinnati in a college football playoff game

1047
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 3: again to Georgia that they had no chance in winning.

1048
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 3: Those two teams could have That was Georgia peak Georgia.

1049
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 3: They could have played one hundred times, Cincinnati loses one

1050
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 3: hundred times. In doing so, he turned down the opportunity

1051
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 3: to coach Notre Dame, the opportunity potentially to coach Oklahoma,

1052
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,959
Speaker 3: the opportunity potentially to coach LSU or to coach USC.

1053
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 3: He turned all of that down to go back and

1054
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 3: coach that team and see it through and then the

1055
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: next year. With all due respect to Wisconsin, it's a

1056
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 3: great program, but I think you'd probably say not a

1057
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 3: blue chip of the bluest blood's infinite money, all the

1058
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 3: things that come with those places. So that that's that's

1059
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 3: what Kiffin could have done. He could have coached his

1060
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 3: team said I know I can win a national title

1061
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 3: at LSU.

1062
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 4: Why can't they just coach and then after the playoff

1063
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 4: go to LIC.

1064
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 3: Because if you're an old miss, you can't let that

1065
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 3: wolf in the henhouse.

1066
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 4: Because he's already there. It's already happened.

1067
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 3: But at least.

1068
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: With it.

1069
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 3: They promoted the defensive coordinator, which I think will stop

1070
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 3: a lot of it. I mean, that's going to slow

1071
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 3: a lot of it down. So they promote the defensive

1072
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 3: coordinator to head coach, so that'll and then they didn't

1073
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 3: let him have access to any of the players.

1074
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 4: They shut all that down.

1075
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 3: Now, some are gonna come anyway, but they're gonna try

1076
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 3: to sell them on the idea of stick around and

1077
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 3: let's see if we can do something magical.

1078
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 4: What's it's it's the calendar. It's not it's the calendar.

1079
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 3: Right.

1080
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 6: It just shouldn't be. He shouldn't be allowed to leave

1081
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 6: right now for anywhere. It doesn't matter. Nobody should be,

1082
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 6: like you gotta finish out the seats now. If he

1083
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 6: got fired, that's one thing.

1084
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 3: But if you are crazier too, like those are those

1085
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 3: two are rivals, right?

1086
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 4: I mean, so why does he think it's so much better?

1087
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 4: LSU is better at.

1088
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 3: L three National titles in the last twenty years with

1089
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 3: three different coaches, two of which were a damn far

1090
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 3: cry from Nick Saban like Less Miles and at Orgeron

1091
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 3: Are they're really good recruiters, but borderline buffoons, and they

1092
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Speaker 3: won national ties with both of them. LSU has play

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Speaker 3: for an SEC title with all of those coaches, including

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Speaker 3: Brian Kelly. Excuse me, ole Miss has never played for

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Speaker 3: an SEC title. They're just not that they're not. They

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Speaker 3: don't have the money, that are the resources. One's a

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Speaker 3: town of twenty five thousand, the other ones a metro

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Speaker 3: area of almost a million. It's just a totally different.

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Speaker 5: Job.

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Speaker 3: Like he's taken old missed in my opinion, like as far.

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Speaker 4: As it can as far as it can go. It's

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Speaker 4: just a calendar. So it's so so broken that this

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Speaker 4: is allowed to happen. I want to ask you guys something.

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Speaker 3: Did you see the the Jeremiah Smith play in the

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00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 3: High State Michigan game? No? I missed it?

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00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 4: The touchdown on what third? Was it on? Third down?

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00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 8: Fourth?

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00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 4: Fourth down? Fourth?

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00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 4: Fourth to five?

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00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, so half if you haven't seen it.

1112
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 3: So he catches the ball on the nine yard he

1113
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 3: rose on fourth and five, he puts a move on.

1114
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 3: That is why he's going to be the first position

1115
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 3: player off the board next year. So he puts it

1116
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 3: a ridiculous move on, catches it. On fourth, he catches

1117
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 3: the ball at the nine yard yep, okay, he takes

1118
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 3: three steps in play, catches it cleanly, three steps in play.

1119
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 3: As he's crossing the line, he gets hit by a

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00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 3: Michigan defender and the ball jostles. Never hits the ground,

1121
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 3: but the ball jostles, and then he maintains possession as

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00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:12,720
Speaker 3: he's going out of bounce.

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00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the dumbest I.

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Speaker 6: Do.

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00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 3: I not understand the rules of the game. It's not

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00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 3: a catch. He already caught it.

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00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 4: He caught it and ran three steps. He never fumbled it.

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Speaker 3: And like people were saying, like Taylor Lawana, all these

1129
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 3: people are saying, how is that not a fumble? How's

1130
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 3: that not a touchback? I'm going maybe I don't understand football.

1131
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 3: I don't understand.

1132
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 6: It would only be a touch back if the ball

1133
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 6: went out the back of the end zone out of

1134
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Speaker 6: his hands.

1135
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 4: It was never out of his hands.

1136
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 3: It was never out of his hands, it never he

1137
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 3: never lost possession of it. No like theoretically you could

1138
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 3: juggle a football as you're crossing the line, as you

1139
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 3: have it as long as you have it again, never

1140
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 3: hit the I just.

1141
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 6: Didn't understand it because you're because I don't. Yeah, So

1142
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 6: that was straight, absolutely no sense whatsoever.

1143
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 3: The other thing I've never seen in my life. I've

1144
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 3: never seen somebody head seeing an opposing player head but

1145
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 3: an official and not get thrown out. Yeah, that happened

1146
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 3: in the High State Michigan. Oh, it was a spicy game, Michigan.

1147
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 3: Michigan defender head butted the official. Yeah. Now I don't

1148
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 3: think he I think he was trying to say, this

1149
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 3: is what the guy did.

1150
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 4: He said, Yes, he was saying he was trying to

1151
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 4: show in any accidents, smoking.

1152
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 3: The head better butted the referee.

1153
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1154
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 3: Nuts, crazy, nuts, absolutely crazy. How was the was it

1155
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 3: the ghost the ghosts handled yet? The ghost the ghosts Gophers?

1156
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 3: The ghosts, the goofs got us. Yeah.

1157
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 7: Unfortunately, it's just not our year, not our year, Wisconsin.

1158
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 7: We built a little momentum the last few weeks. Our offense. Unfortunately,

1159
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 7: I've been beating over the head with good defense, bad

1160
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 7: offense all season long with both of my teams and

1161
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 7: somehow Wisconsin's offense is even worse because they've got the

1162
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 7: four string true freshman quarterback doing the best he can,

1163
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 7: but that's not much. And so the defense does a

1164
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 7: pretty good job most of the game and they just

1165
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 7: can't score any points. They don't even really run the

1166
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 7: ball out effectively either.

1167
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 3: Luke's got to put those quarterbacks in like bubble wrap. Yeah,

1168
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 3: and he's got to go to like a shaman. Right,

1169
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 3: He's like a quarterback shan because he is not kept.

1170
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 3: He just can't stay healthy. On that side of it,

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Speaker 3: to share.

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Speaker 7: This is our Eden Rift collection box right here with

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Speaker 7: some of the items that are in there. Therese a

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00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 7: little sneak preview. The boys in the graphics department.

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Speaker 3: Have done an amazing job.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, look at this.

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00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 3: The brand is incredible.

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00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 6: And these are these are the hills in which we'll

1195
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 6: see the grapes in the front.

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00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:46,479
Speaker 3: It kind of looks like the farm.

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00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 7: It does. But we don't have any break so Napa

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00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 7: Yeah Limited Rift Vineyard in California.

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Speaker 4: Uniting vineyard and pasture.

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Speaker 7: Class high end gift box. We've got a couple of

1201
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 7: full blood wogg you New York strips and a couple

1202
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 7: flats in there.

1203
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 3: Yeah baby, Yeah.

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00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 4: And then look at the marveling doctor, Doctor.

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00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 7: You're a nice press in I just eat that raw

1206
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 7: slice it thin and in my vein.

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00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 4: But oh my goodness. And then in here we got yep.

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00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 7: So then there's a couple of these little fancy chocolates

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00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 7: for dessert, you know, because after those trees, full blood

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00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 7: wog you meal with your missus, You're probably gonna be

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00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 7: nice and full, but you want to set.

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00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 3: The mood a nice little bottle.

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00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 6: Of high end veno, a little Pino to War from

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00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 6: the Landsdale Slope, signed by.

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Speaker 3: You, signed by the Hof, only the Hoff and the

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00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 3: logo that's right, Jerry West and the the only Uh.

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Speaker 4: They have, the two signed bottles that I would have.

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Speaker 4: I love them across.

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Speaker 3: How did you decide on the on the vineyards?

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00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 7: So a buddy of mine who drinks a lot of wine,

1221
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 7: he's the only one in my rolodex that competes with

1222
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 7: Zoo Girl as far as his red wine consumption in

1223
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 7: a calendar year. And he had a buddy that's his

1224
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 7: family's got a vineyard in California, and he thought it

1225
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 7: would be a perfect pairing with you know, the type

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00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 7: of grapes that they grow out there. I'm not the

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00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 7: vintnor that mister Zura is, but I'm sure he could

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00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 7: tell you a little bit about that area.

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00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 3: After he guzzles one of those with a hall of

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00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 3: fame beef steak.

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00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 4: There's no doubt. Yeah, there's no doubt.

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00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 6: It's a little a little slope, little mountain fruit, a

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00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 6: little more robust, which I was going to go good

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Speaker 6: with the robustness here of the.

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Speaker 3: Wag you absolutely so we got that box.

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00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 7: And then the Cleveland Collection, which is a fun one

1237
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 7: that we've got together with a bunch of Cleveland companies,

1238
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 7: iconic businesses like Malley's Chocolate. Oh yeah, they made us

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00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 7: a cool Cleveland Cowboys shirt. Yeah, we got the meat

1240
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 7: sticks in there. I think we put in the regular

1241
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 7: and then the Apple cheddar. We got our Yes, which

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00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 7: I love personally.

1243
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Speaker 3: That's right there. Now that's a beauty right there. That's unreal, unreal.

1244
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 4: It might be the best teashert I've ever.

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00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 7: Seen that in twenty bucks will get you to the

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00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 7: front of the club in Cleveland wherever you want to go.

1247
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 3: A little tough head of in there.

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00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 4: This one's even in a half size.

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00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 7: Yes, look I got the one with the extra huge

1250
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 7: arm sleeves for u Z because I know those biceps

1251
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 7: have been bulging lately.

1252
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and then of Wygo summer. I've never had nice.

1253
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 7: You gotta go for it, so this this week is

1254
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 7: when we're going to do our Yeah, and we got

1255
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,959
Speaker 7: our whole muscle in the Bourbon beef jerky and yeah,

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00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 7: a nice little meister cheese chunk there from the creamery

1257
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 7: from Muscaday, Wisconsin where my farm is right on the road.

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00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 4: I forget this.

1259
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 7: Yes, so that comes in the Eden riffbox. That's my

1260
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 7: challenge coin that the Hall of Fame made for me.

1261
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 7: So I think they only made like a couple hundred

1262
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 7: of those and gave me some, so I autographed those.

1263
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 7: Since that's our limited edition box, so you get one

1264
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 7: of those cool challenge coins. Yeah, and then uh yeah,

1265
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 7: all sorts of goodies. So these are just sneak previews

1266
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 7: because our full Cleveland collab box has an autograph card

1267
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 7: for me and then a picture from Steep Bay since

1268
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 7: our coffee and the coffee will go in there as

1269
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 7: well things in addition to yeah, all the things. The

1270
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 7: Stadium Mustard Summer Sausage collab is finishing this week. They're

1271
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 7: fermenting right now, so I g I gave you the

1272
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 7: regular but as soon as those are done, I'll bring

1273
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 7: those back, yes, so you guys can enjoy some of that.

1274
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 3: This Stadium mustard.

1275
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 6: You're gonna get from all Cleveland Coffee, Dark Roast coffee,

1276
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 6: campfire ceramic mug from Mount.

1277
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a mug in there too.

1278
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1279
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 6: The chocolate vivered pretzels, that's right. Greetings from a Cleveland

1280
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 6: variety box. This is the good chocolates, and then the

1281
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 6: unbelievable the cowboys.

1282
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, good.

1283
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 3: Amazing.

1284
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,439
Speaker 6: Then you gets a good old stadium mustard, which dates

1285
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 6: back to the nineteen twenties when it was offered at

1286
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 6: all Cleveland Indian Games and Historic League Park. Others are

1287
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 6: called Cleveland's Municipal Stadium, where the Indians and Browns Bowl

1288
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 6: started playing in nineteen forty six. The summer sausage, and

1289
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 6: then the beef sticks, which we've old you already.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna do. I'm going to do a Bootsy Live

1291
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 3: review to get that kid. I'll get your he loves.

1292
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 4: Do you have the do we have the the what

1293
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 4: is it? The apple?

1294
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 3: So it'll be apple chaeddar in a regular.

1295
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 4: I think we throw him the apple chatter is going

1296
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:19,959
Speaker 4: to blow his mind.

1297
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 3: Those might be the regular. There might be an apple cha.

1298
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 3: We have to swap.

1299
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 7: Like I said, this is a sneak preview as we're

1300
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 7: still collecting our items, getting ready to ship boxes here.

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00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 7: I think in two weeks.

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Speaker 4: What a treat, just as America.

1303
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 3: Merry Christmas guys, Yeah, thank you. What a man button?

1304
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 4: You have an apple? Chaeddar? Did you have an apple?

1305
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 3: Chatdar in there?

1306
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 5: The apple?

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Speaker 3: Those are those are the ones you want? I'll give him,

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Speaker 3: so see him suck that down.

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Speaker 7: On the website, we wanted to make sure, like, hey,

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Speaker 7: holidays are tough, right when you're especially buying for adults,

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Speaker 7: it's hard to find him something that they're not annoyed with,

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Speaker 7: Like where do I put this?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 7: But when you get to eat it, when it's beef,

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Speaker 7: where you get the drinking and his wine, everybody's happy.

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Speaker 4: So you put this right in your mouth and over

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Speaker 4: I'll show you.

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Speaker 3: And uh So we wanted that easy button, right.

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Speaker 7: We wanted to be able to just go to the

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Speaker 7: website and say, okay, this is my budget. I want

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Speaker 7: to get somebody from Cleveland who's a huge sports fan. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: a perfect gift box. Sent it right to him.

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Speaker 4: Don't have to sell it now, thought about it? Where

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Speaker 4: do I Let's give them the.

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Speaker 7: Website, Yes, Hall of FAMEBEF dot com right at the top.

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Speaker 7: If you open it up, there's a little box that says,

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Speaker 7: you know, purchase now, easy button shop. Now there you go,

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Speaker 7: give the gift of beef and you got all the

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Speaker 7: bundles that are on there. There's two versions of Cleveland Collection.

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Speaker 7: One that's got the autographs and a few other things

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Speaker 7: in there, and then there's a Amium Oh yeah. Then

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Speaker 7: there's a ninety nine dollars version that doesn't have the

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Speaker 7: autographs and it's got a few less of the beef items,

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Speaker 7: but still an amazing gift for anybody from Cleveland. And

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Speaker 7: then of course we've got the Eating Riftbox on there,

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Speaker 7: which is your super high end box with the full

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Speaker 7: blood wog you and the vino that gets shipped. But

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Speaker 7: then we also got if you're a hunter for text box,

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Speaker 7: got a nice little for text binder in there, Deer

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Speaker 7: camp box, and.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna be a Turkey camp box.

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Speaker 7: We're on it right now, We're we're doing it. I

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Speaker 7: can't wait. I'll let you make the full selection fix

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Speaker 7: with you. My amazing graphics team. There'll be emailing you

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Speaker 7: ten times a day. Whether you like it or not.

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Speaker 7: Good bring it up. It'll be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 7: So lots of good stuff on there. Obviously we got

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Speaker 7: a regular bundles too of burgers and steaks and things

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Speaker 7: of that nature. So whatever you need right there, easy button,

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Speaker 7: we did it for you.

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Speaker 6: I just almost asked a question that I'm glad I

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Speaker 6: asked out loud about what.

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Speaker 4: Could be included in the Turkey Camp bundle.

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Speaker 7: Anything there, anything in there that's beautiful. Man, Absolutely well,

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Speaker 7: thank you guys.

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Speaker 8: Very good.

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Speaker 3: Thank you on the show, and thank you gifts from delivery.

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Speaker 4: It's my favorite Santa.

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Speaker 3: He's the best. We'll go around the wrapp and the

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Speaker 3: meat stick everywhere he goes. We go around the ANFC

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Speaker 3: North coming up. Text, you're listening top Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: the AFC North, Gentlemen, that here we are I remember

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Speaker 3: get back in July going could three get in? Could

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Speaker 3: two get in? Get three get in? Well, it's going

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Speaker 3: to be one that seems finite at this point.

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Speaker 4: That's quite fine, and it's annoying, is what I make

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Speaker 4: of it. Because it is the year. This is the

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Speaker 4: year b If.

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Speaker 6: We're decent, we're in the mix middling fiddling. Something is

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Speaker 6: wrong with Lamar Jackson, clearly, obviously, and it's more than

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Speaker 6: just a hamstring. It feels like, yes, there's something wrong there.

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Speaker 6: The Steelers have are exactly I thought. They've been not

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Speaker 6: great all year. They are not great. Their offense is atrocious,

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Speaker 6: and it feels like you're getting to a point where

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Speaker 6: the style offense that that has been very successful for

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Speaker 6: a lot of people from the Shanahan Kubiak tree. It

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Speaker 6: feels like because Arthur Smith is in that he runs

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Speaker 6: that style offense. It really feels like unless you have

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Speaker 6: a quarterback that's operating at a high level, or you're

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Speaker 6: just that good, which is what I would call Kyle

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Speaker 6: although rock Party has been quite good at his entire career,

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Speaker 6: but he made Mac Jones look really good. That offense

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Speaker 6: is does not have a lot of success. If you

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Speaker 6: don't have the right people operating it, because think about

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Speaker 6: even Minnesota. O'Connell was Coach of the Year last year.

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Speaker 6: They can't justin Jefferson can't. He can't eve get the ball.

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Speaker 3: Did you see that poor kid yesterday?

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Speaker 4: Well I knew it. That was dude. When we were

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Speaker 4: in London, he was supposed to come in. Wentz had

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Speaker 4: that fracture and all that that Wentz played through that

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Speaker 4: happened against US. Western popped him.

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Speaker 6: He was gonna go out and they're gonna send Broseburn

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Speaker 6: where that's a game we.

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Speaker 4: Win for sure.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, incompetent.

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Speaker 6: And the crazy thing is I read the story today

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Speaker 6: that Quazy worked behind the scenes to get him cut

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Speaker 6: with at the behest of PJ. Fleck to get him

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Speaker 6: a Combine invite, and then he regretted it because he's like,

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Speaker 6: well now he's not going to just be our secret anymore.

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Speaker 4: But he still did end up in Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, well, and I don't know if it was a

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Speaker 4: good secret.

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Speaker 3: My dad had had a good one Baltimore, which you

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Speaker 3: had Cincinnati going to Baltimore and winning.

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Speaker 6: Cincinnati's in it, dude, if they can play defense, they

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Speaker 6: are in the mix.

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Speaker 4: They're the scariest, even arguments.

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Speaker 3: They win their next five off and they have Buffalo Sunday.

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Speaker 4: It's way very beatable they are.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not special either, Like that's the team the

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Speaker 3: fewest people want to play.

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Speaker 4: The Bengals.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, because if you can, if you could score

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Speaker 6: in the NFL today, you are scary. And so I'm

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Speaker 6: gonna storry early this year. Weapons weapons, weapons, weapons weapons.

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Speaker 7: Offensive football takes two people to score. Defense takes eleven

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Speaker 7: every play. Yes, it's really hard to get eleven guys

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Speaker 7: to win consistently for four quarters. It's a lot easier

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Speaker 7: to have a superstar, a Burrow, a Chase and just

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Speaker 7: be able to make one place between the two of

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Speaker 7: them on each drive and you make greatness.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think. I just wonder if they I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's just a shame that for them that they have

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Speaker 3: those losses to the Bears and the Jets.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm not going to cry for him.

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Speaker 3: I'm not either, but like, I mean that those.

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Speaker 4: Are like Sanford on Countdown when he was.

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Speaker 6: Like, man, I really feel bad for Mark Andrews dropping

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Speaker 6: that ball last year in Buffalo. I'm like, this is

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Speaker 6: the Ravens countdowns down whenever he was asked to qualify.

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Speaker 4: I'm rooting for the one we play the Rains. I'm

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Speaker 4: rooting for the Browns.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope so. But the I guess the point

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Speaker 3: of all of this is one's going to get in

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Speaker 3: and did the Bengals dig too deep of a hole

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Speaker 3: to come out of it? And of the other two,

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Speaker 3: which one would you take off? In the AFC?

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Speaker 7: I do not believe Aaron Rodgers is going to be

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Speaker 7: able to finish the season healthy and every week he's

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Speaker 7: getting banged up. I mean, not that the offense has

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Speaker 7: been great with him, but I just I just don't

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Speaker 7: believe in that team and their makeup over a Lamar

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Speaker 7: Jackson team. I know you're saying that he doesn't look right,

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Speaker 7: he's not feeling one hundred percent, but he seems to

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01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 7: be the type of guy to me that kind of

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01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 7: takes it easy. Not that he's not trying hard, but

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01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 7: he's playing the long game, understanding, hey, we need to

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Speaker 7: be at our best going into the playoffs. Hoping that

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Speaker 7: obviously in the interim, I don't have to be Superman,

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Speaker 7: but when the time comes, I'm hoping that that hamstring

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Speaker 7: feels good. Down the stretch, and I would much rather

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Speaker 7: play a Pittsburgh team to get into the playoffs or

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Speaker 7: in the playoffs than I would a Baltimore team with

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Speaker 7: their current makeup.

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Speaker 4: That's why they can't. They needed to beat All you

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Speaker 4: do is take our business against the Angles. Yeah, they

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Speaker 4: just need to win that game.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Isaiah likely dropped the ball going into the end zone,

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Speaker 6: getting that turned into the touchback that people were I

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Speaker 6: guess wanting in the game in the Ohio State game.

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Speaker 3: But so they go. Baltimore and Pittsburgh play this weekend,

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Speaker 3: then Baltimore's at Sincy. Cincinnati gets Buffalo this week, then

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Speaker 3: Baltimore gets the Patriots at home, and then at Green

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Speaker 3: Bay at Steelers. I don't know. I don't know. Nine

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Speaker 3: wins is minimum. So for them, they've got to go

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Speaker 3: three and two in that five. They can definitely do that,

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Speaker 3: but they can't have both those losses be to the Bengals.

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Speaker 4: So say they split with the Steelers, Yeah, they need

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Speaker 4: to win that.

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Speaker 6: So but that's both of them gets them to seven wins, right,

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Speaker 6: I think I think that somebody will get to nine.

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Speaker 6: I'm with you, but it is possible seven and nine

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Speaker 6: or seven and ten, eight, nine, I'm sorry, eight to

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Speaker 6: nine could win this division.

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Speaker 3: So that's the Baltimore schedule. Pittsburgh obviously opposite. So they're

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Speaker 3: at Pittsburgh schedule, they're at Ravens. Then they've got Dolphins

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Speaker 3: at home at Lions, which isn't quite as formidable as

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Speaker 3: that was, although they're much filled than Pitscible.

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Speaker 5: Yea.

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Speaker 3: Then they're here and then Ravens at home. It could

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Speaker 3: come down to that last game those two teams play

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Speaker 3: in this regular season finale.

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Speaker 6: It's in and who do the Bengals have I'm sorry

1493
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Speaker 6: you say Bengals. And the Bengals are at what four?

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Speaker 6: They're four and eight right now, so they need to go.

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Speaker 6: They go at Bills, then they're Ravens at home at Dolphins,

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Speaker 6: Cardinals at home US.

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Speaker 4: They need to go five and oh they got to

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Speaker 4: win them all they could. Yeah, that would get him

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Speaker 4: to nine and eight. We could end up being the

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Speaker 4: Saturday last week doubleheader.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you could down in Cincinnati four or five.

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Speaker 6: I think we'd be the first one, right if, like,

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Speaker 6: let's say that that game was to get them to

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Speaker 6: nine and eight and both the other teams were at

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Speaker 6: eight and nine or whatever. Eight and eight right, they

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Speaker 6: could be, the nightcap could be, and you have tie

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Speaker 6: breakers of all kinds of crazy.

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Speaker 3: They booed renegade.

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Speaker 4: Yes, the Siliana said they now they think it's a

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Speaker 4: bad song, Renegade.

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Speaker 6: They finally woke up Dark Days and they don't Likene.

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Speaker 6: Cilia says it's the worst.

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Speaker 5: He was.

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Speaker 6: He was like, this is the dumbest song. I said, listen,

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Speaker 6: this is a tradition associated with winning, and that makes

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Speaker 6: it cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't hate on that.

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Speaker 7: I think it's pretty cool if you played there with

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Speaker 7: that Welcome to Cincinnati, Like, that's pretty cool too. I mean,

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Speaker 7: you got to be able to call spades spade. I

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01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 7: know that his Browns fandom runs very deep, very genetics,

1522
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 7: but uh, that's.

1523
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 3: A that's a cool tradition.

1524
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1525
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 3: So here was let's start from. Let's hear from some

1526
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 3: of the principles on this. Let's start with Mike Tomlin here.

1527
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 3: He was post game yesterday after their loss to the Bills.

1528
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 2: You know, not a lot needs to be said. Man,

1529
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:31,640
Speaker 2: that's a that's an awful performance by us, but it's us.

1530
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 2: We didn't do a lot well tonight. Obviously, we didn't

1531
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:41,639
Speaker 2: possess the ball or maintain ball security. On offense, we're

1532
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 2: highly penalized. Were allowed those guys to run the ball,

1533
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:49,799
Speaker 2: didn't play sixty minutes of action, didn't play complimentary football,

1534
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 2: and so we got absorbed that result. You know, we

1535
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 2: certainly not gonna feel sorry for ourselves. That's this business

1536
01:10:58,000 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 2: we're in.

1537
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 4: All right.

1538
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 3: The quarterback of record in Pittsburgh is Aaron Rodgers. So

1539
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:06,719
Speaker 3: he's playing with a broken wrist. He's got a bloody

1540
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:10,759
Speaker 3: nose from a hit that he took on yesterday, which.

1541
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 5: We got it.

1542
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 4: Which clips are we going? This is a couple.

1543
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 3: This is the one where he talks about not being

1544
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 3: on the same page as the.

1545
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 19: Receivers them film sessions. Everybody shows up. And when I

1546
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 19: checked to a route, you do the right route, you know,

1547
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 19: like John and I just were on the same page.

1548
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 19: I checked to his breaker and he ran out breaker.

1549
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 19: You know, I'm John is a true professional, so I'm

1550
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 19: sure he's you know, he's sick, sick about that. But

1551
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 19: you know, I threw a ball I thought was going

1552
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 19: to get hit by the wind and it was four

1553
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 19: yards over Roman, so that to throw I got to

1554
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 19: make that throw. But you know, we have our meetings

1555
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 19: every week. We have other opportunities out out of the

1556
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 19: facility and look forward to seeing all the boys there.

1557
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 6: He is tremendous at throwing people under the bus and

1558
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 6: they did a nice well I probably should hit that

1559
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 6: throwt to Roman too, so like he's doing Yeah, he's

1560
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 6: on both sides of it. So the other one was

1561
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:18,640
Speaker 6: they asked him if the team was well coached and

1562
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 6: if like the offensive plan was good, and he I

1563
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 6: don't know if he had caught I don't know what

1564
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 6: he had. He had some beverage that he just kind

1565
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 6: of looked at the person who asked a question, then

1566
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 6: gave a look like he was in this deep thought,

1567
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 6: sipped whatever drink he had, took some more time, and

1568
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 6: then it was like, I know what you're.

1569
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 4: Trying to do.

1570
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 8: It was like some bougie bottle water.

1571
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I bottle bottle.

1572
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 6: And he's like, I'm not you know, I I believe

1573
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 6: in the coaches and were well coached team or something

1574
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 6: like that. But where you felt like that is not

1575
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 6: what he thought at all. The way the whole delivery

1576
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 6: of it was he told you. And so if you

1577
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,640
Speaker 6: just read a transcript, sure, but if you watched it,

1578
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:03,679
Speaker 6: you're like he thinks I felt like you thought Arthur

1579
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:04,759
Speaker 6: Smith was a buffood.

1580
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 7: It's because it's very easy for him to say, we

1581
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 7: believe in these coaches. They're doing a great job. We're

1582
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 7: all pulling in the same direction. Done boring answer, Yeah,

1583
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 7: it's over. But to take the amount of time that

1584
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 7: he did in that situation, he was trying to deliver

1585
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 7: a message, but he didn't want to be in trouble.

1586
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 7: As soon as he walked off the podium by the media,

1587
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 7: guy going why.

1588
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 4: Did you say that?

1589
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 3: No, I defended him.

1590
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 4: What do you mean.

1591
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 8: Read the transcript. It's right there.

1592
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 3: I defended him. I said he's doing a great job.

1593
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly right.

1594
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 3: Cincinnati, as you mentioned, really put it on Baltimore. This

1595
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,759
Speaker 3: was all the way back on Thursday night. Joe Burrow

1596
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 3: first came back. He had a an enforced metal steel

1597
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,560
Speaker 3: plate put in his left shoe. Here is Burrow and

1598
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 3: how it felt.

1599
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, feel great.

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01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 20: You know. Obviously had to knock some rust off there

1601
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 20: in the first half, so I expect myself to play better.

1602
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 5: But it was great to be back out there.

1603
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 9: I was you know, a lot of emotion is running

1604
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 9: through it at the end of the game, so it's

1605
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 9: just good to be back with the guys off.

1606
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:05,560
Speaker 8: What does it do?

1607
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:07,640
Speaker 3: A lot of people down there were because they're saying, well,

1608
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 3: what do you have to play for? Why would you

1609
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 3: even play? Just get back for next year, And He's like,

1610
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 3: I'm a pro, I'm a football player. What do you

1611
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 3: want me to do? Yeah? Like, I just loved hearing

1612
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 3: that from him. I've always loved Joe Burrow, Joe cool.

1613
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 7: Like obviously being in our division and arrival, he got

1614
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 7: a little level of hate for him, but he's always

1615
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 7: been a true professional. I think he's always been a

1616
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 7: great leader, and I've always had a ton of respect

1617
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 7: for guys that just go about their business the way

1618
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 7: that he does that see the game, that try to

1619
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 7: bring all the other weapons in so they're seeing the

1620
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 7: game through his eyes.

1621
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 3: I remember having him on.

1622
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 7: Our desk after one of his Thursday night football games

1623
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 7: when he was a younger player, and he was talking

1624
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 7: about every throw he makes, practice walk through or a

1625
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 7: game as a conversation between him and the receiver where

1626
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 7: it's nonverbal, but it's having you get on that same

1627
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 7: page with him, just the same way you'd have conversations

1628
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 7: with family members at the dinner table to get on

1629
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 7: the same page.

1630
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 3: And I thought it was just so cool to see and.

1631
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 7: Hear a young man with not a lot of experience

1632
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 7: at the time, but speaking with such wisdom, and you

1633
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 7: could just tell right there he was going to be

1634
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:08,640
Speaker 7: a great player because he gets it. He's just a

1635
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 7: football player, right, He just wants to go out and play.

1636
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 7: He understands that. Yeah, maybe at the time they didn't

1637
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:15,600
Speaker 7: think that they were making a playoff push, but you

1638
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 7: never know what's going to happen. Like we just went

1639
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 7: through the schedule thing five hundred right around there, they

1640
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 7: might be in and they're a dangerous team because they

1641
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 7: can score, that's right. And for a guy like that,

1642
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 7: he understands like, hey, you're either getting better or you're

1643
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 7: getting worse in football, and so if you're not playing,

1644
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 7: you're getting worse. So he wants to be out there,

1645
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 7: whether they're not playing for playoffs or they are, because

1646
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 7: this is an opportunity to every time you go out

1647
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 7: there and step between them white lines, to get better

1648
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 7: as a team, to get better as an offense, to

1649
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 7: get more on the same page with those guys, those

1650
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 7: pass catchers, and you only have so many opportunities throughout

1651
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 7: your career, so don't waste a single one totally.

1652
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 3: If they do get in, they would be the seven seed.

1653
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, they'd be the four.

1654
01:15:56,920 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 3: So they'd be the four. So that would be right Bills. Yeah,

1655
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 3: it'd be like the Bills are the or the Chargers

1656
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 3: right now are the five seed, which would be stands

1657
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 3: right now, so you're right, Yeah, they'd be the four.

1658
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, they played four plays, four plays five r right

1659
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 4: place six two place seven? One gets the two right now?

1660
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 3: Is is Bills to his Bills? New England? It's two seven?

1661
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 6: Yes, you guys should have the paperwork in front of Yeah,

1662
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 6: we got it right that it would be Chargers, Colt, Colts, Jags.

1663
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 6: That one still I came with the Jags are in first.

1664
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 6: Colts Jags would be the other.

1665
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 3: Right, all those all those injuries they have with all

1666
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 3: the weapons in Jacksonville eight and four, eight and four. Yeah,

1667
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 3: in the Indies, free falling a little.

1668
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 4: By the way.

1669
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 6: Two questions, Well, one question, one observation question for you

1670
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 6: is does this get Trey Hendrickson a little more motivated

1671
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 6: to play?

1672
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 4: Are they thinking that he's actually going to play?

1673
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 1: Now?

1674
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 8: Sounds like he's out again this week?

1675
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 3: Is he again?

1676
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1677
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 3: I believe so I guess, guess not.

1678
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 4: Guess that's there.

1679
01:16:58,760 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 1: There we go.

1680
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 6: And then on the Burrow, that thing in his shoe

1681
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 6: was so uncomfortable that he every time he went to

1682
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 6: the sideline he'd take it out, put a sneaker on,

1683
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 6: and then when he had to go back in the

1684
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 6: field to protect on because he just because it was

1685
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:11,640
Speaker 6: so uncomfortable.

1686
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 7: But he said it felt great. So I'm gonna believe

1687
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 7: him right now. I had like a little mini turf

1688
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 7: toe in college and they had to put that plate in.

1689
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:20,839
Speaker 3: It is awful.

1690
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 7: It's like wearing a giant wooden clog because you get

1691
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 7: no flex in the bottom of your foot, so it's

1692
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 7: like impossible to run. It's like running with a block

1693
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 7: on the bottom of your foot. And obviously as a quarterback,

1694
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 7: you're not doing a lot of running if you're Joe Burrow,

1695
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:34,560
Speaker 7: and you need to protect it.

1696
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 3: But it is not a comfortable thing.

1697
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 7: And I imagine too, like that's where you're planting your foot,

1698
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 7: and so all that force is now going through your

1699
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 7: leg and your knee and your hip and your back,

1700
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,639
Speaker 7: like it's got to screw up everything. That he's doing

1701
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 7: trying to throw and put velocity on the football, so

1702
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 7: it cannot be comfortable for the long run, but you

1703
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 7: give him credit like he's a football player.

1704
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 3: Whatever it takes. Put me out there with my boys. Yeah,

1705
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 3: it was really bad. He wasn't great early and then

1706
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 3: he figured out.

1707
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:01,640
Speaker 5: He figured out.

1708
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 4: Yeah to bet, he wasn't Dutch born. He had more

1709
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 4: experienced clogging.

1710
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, tree up around Uncle baby Billy. He could

1711
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 3: do it.

1712
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:14,719
Speaker 20: Machine already doubtful for this weekend. Per Zach Taylor's presser

1713
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 20: today says he is mostly working with trainers behind the

1714
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,759
Speaker 20: scenes as for a future return, still taking it week.

1715
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 4: To week and what is his ailment?

1716
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 3: I can't even remember.

1717
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 8: I don't think I can say that on the air

1718
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:28,560
Speaker 8: how I would interpret it.

1719
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 3: But we'll go around the NFL give I had a

1720
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 3: rivalry inspired question he wanted to ask. We'll get to

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Speaker 3: work through the injuries on the offensive and defensive line.

1737
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 4: We got a lot of them.

1738
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 7: They're piling up a little bit. Obviously, defensive line has

1739
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 7: been playing great all season long because they've been playing

1740
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 7: as a team. That unit approach has always been Jim

1741
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 7: Schwartz's m O. Getting guys up the field, penetrating, disrupting,

1742
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 7: and even though you're maybe not the guy that makes

1743
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 7: the ultimate tackle, like you've disrupted the blocking concepts. And

1744
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 7: that's why I think part of the reason we're seeing

1745
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 7: Miles Garrett with this incredible sack a streak that he's

1746
01:19:58,160 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 7: on right now and the totals that he's put up

1747
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 7: there is because he does have those other guys getting

1748
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 7: to the quarterback quickly and forcing the quarterback into his

1749
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 7: rush lanes, so they can't just avoid him right when

1750
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 7: he's back there. So finding out who are those backup

1751
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 7: guys that are going to come in and be able

1752
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:15,640
Speaker 7: to step up and fill the shoes, which are some

1753
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 7: pretty huge shoes to fill right now. Man Elie Collins

1754
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 7: has had an incredible breakout season.

1755
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, you need my call to step up draft in

1756
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 6: the second round. He has a sack and a half

1757
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:27,759
Speaker 6: in his second and a half in the last three games.

1758
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 6: You need Alex right back. He wasn't placed on IR

1759
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 6: so this would be the fourth game he would miss,

1760
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 6: which would have been typical of an IR say, so hopefully.

1761
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 4: He can be back this week. You need those.

1762
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 6: Malie Collins was having a Pro Bowl season. Could made

1763
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:41,680
Speaker 6: the case he was an all Pro season. He was

1764
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 6: eating all defensive tackles and sacks, pressures and pressure rate.

1765
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 4: That's a big loss. That is a big loss.

1766
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 6: And obviously afterwards, Juwan Jennings said things that offended our

1767
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 6: team greatly, greatly, greatly. Yeah, Umbridge was taken quite a bit. Yeah,

1768
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 6: and Shelby Harris, who I have a great affection for

1769
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:00,120
Speaker 6: it had one of the great I thought that was

1770
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 6: one of the most unbelievable post games.

1771
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1772
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 4: You don't see stuff like that very oft though. No, no,

1773
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 4: you don't give it.

1774
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:11,679
Speaker 20: You have a question for us, I do, in honor

1775
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 20: of rivalry weekend in college football, which was amazing, what

1776
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 20: is the best rivalry in the National Football League.

1777
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 8: Ever?

1778
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 4: Currently?

1779
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 3: All right, so I think you have to do that.

1780
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 3: I think currently, I think you have to put the

1781
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 3: caveat on it of one that withstands the test of

1782
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 3: time in the two teams greatness. Because so in other words,

1783
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 3: I don't think you can put Buffalo in Kansas City,

1784
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 3: or I wouldn't have said the Colts and the Patriots. No,

1785
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 3: that was really Manning and Brady like. I don't think

1786
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 3: those were rivalries in the traditional sense. So I think

1787
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 3: that's that is a key to the whole thing.

1788
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:52,720
Speaker 6: Gotcha, I tell you, I mean to come right to

1789
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 6: my mind, which would be and then I have one

1790
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 6: that's an old school and that I don't think holds

1791
01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 6: up today anymore. But Pittsburgh ballt War. I mean that

1792
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 6: was for a while every game was within three points.

1793
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 6: They were the hardest hitting games.

1794
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 4: They were. They've both been pretty good.

1795
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 6: Like if you take Pittsburgh from the time that Baltimore's

1796
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:13,600
Speaker 6: Baltimore's inception, you know, they've both been teams of consequence

1797
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 6: throughout that period. Niners Dallas, that's probably a little bit

1798
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:21,799
Speaker 6: biased by my upbringing, but they were great in the eighties.

1799
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:23,639
Speaker 6: They had a rivalry. They had a rivalry in the nineties.

1800
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 6: There's still a lot of hate though, Like Kittle's wearing.

1801
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 3: That yeah, yeah, yeah, like there's a history there. I

1802
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 3: wish they played every year.

1803
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 4: They should.

1804
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 3: It's too bad they don't do like college and even

1805
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 3: though they're in a different division, just make sure they

1806
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 3: play every year.

1807
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 4: Yeah great, because I do feel like there is something

1808
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 4: to that one.

1809
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1810
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 6: And then the other one that I had, which was

1811
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 6: more old school, was Oakland Denver, and that's again probably

1812
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 6: that was that was a heated that was heated rivalry,

1813
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 6: but I don't think it today, probably not as much.

1814
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 4: Las Vegas Denver. I don't think anyone's getting all fired

1815
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 4: up for.

1816
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 7: I always think of the Eagles and the Cowboys being

1817
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:02,719
Speaker 7: one of those great rivalries, both teams having solid seasons

1818
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 7: this year. Obviously we expected that out of the Eagles

1819
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 7: and with the Cowboys surprising a lot of people playing

1820
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 7: pretty good ball under Brian Schottenheimer. And I don't know,

1821
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,560
Speaker 7: to me, that's one, just as I think, what's the

1822
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 7: one that's probably been the longest, at least during my

1823
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 7: lifetime as a football fan. That's got to be one

1824
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 7: of those ones that no matter where you are in

1825
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 7: the country, you know that those teams hate each other,

1826
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 7: those fan bases hate each other, and there's gonna be

1827
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 7: some bad blood in that game.

1828
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 4: And you've probably got one from your childhood team and

1829
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:32,639
Speaker 4: your childhood team.

1830
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think Bears Packers has that. I mean,

1831
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 3: I think they really hate each other. I don't know

1832
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 3: if the Packers hate the Bears as much. No, No,

1833
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 3: because they went so lopsided in the last twenty years,

1834
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 3: Packers win every time. Yeah, the one that I thought, so,

1835
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 3: it's funny Bears Packers because I just thought, as a

1836
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 3: kid liking the Bears, how much the Packers took from

1837
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 3: me when I was a kid, and then and my

1838
01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,639
Speaker 3: brother liked the Packers, so that only added to it. Yeah,

1839
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 3: and the other two you mentioned or the other with

1840
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 3: the other would have been in my three, I would

1841
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,679
Speaker 3: have had Dallas and Philly. I mean that's the boost

1842
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:09,680
Speaker 3: Santa Claus game in Philly. I mean, like they just

1843
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 3: hate each other, those two teams so bad. And then

1844
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 3: and then I think them in recent years it's it's

1845
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 3: Steelers and Ravens. Yeah, and I you know you've got

1846
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 3: of course, the Ravens are the old Browns, so there's

1847
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 3: that built up. I mean, so I'm jealous of it, yes,

1848
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 3: of course, but but also like that history is there too,

1849
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 3: and they just I mean, if you think about those

1850
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 3: players like hating each other, and it just went from

1851
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 3: one to the next to the next, like they just

1852
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:38,679
Speaker 3: picked up right where the Brown Steelers rivalry left off

1853
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 3: and they just continued.

1854
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 6: Do you think I think that the I agree with

1855
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 6: everything you said there. I think that the best rivalry

1856
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 6: division are probably is probably well ours.

1857
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 4: I think is good because our rivalries are all good.

1858
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 3: They're all good.

1859
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 4: In Ohio.

1860
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 6: The Bengals when are when they were good, it was

1861
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 6: Bengals Steelers had a big rivalry Ravens while Yeah, and

1862
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 6: then I think the NFC East because I think you

1863
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:03,559
Speaker 6: could you got Dallas Philly, but you could do Dallas

1864
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 6: and the Giants, Giants and the Redskins, well former Red.

1865
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 3: When we were young, we're all men were forty. I mean,

1866
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 3: like Dallas Washington was hated.

1867
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 4: Each other, and in the eighties Washington and the Giants was.

1868
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 3: Hated each other, and Philly was. Yeah. Sure, I think

1869
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 3: that that division, to me, has been the most consistently

1870
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 3: from our youth, no question, the most consistently good division.

1871
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 3: This one though in the North is right there. I mean,

1872
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 3: the AFC North is right there.

1873
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1874
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 6: We just unfortunately we haven't had that run where that were.

1875
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 6: We were a team of consequence for a while to

1876
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 6: be able to elevate those things.

1877
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 3: That's true.

1878
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 7: If we did, that would be clearly because everybody hates

1879
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 7: each other a lot. Yeah all right, uh ha, great

1880
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 7: to see you, Thank you. What a bounty what a

1881
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 7: bounty beef?

1882
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 4: I was I don't know.

1883
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 6: I'm sure you're dialed to Brown's countdown Yesterdayhen the haff

1884
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 6: was on. I was great at the end of it,

1885
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 6: sell a little half before.

1886
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 7: Look at that he's on the payroll. Oh, it's beautiful. Yes,

1887
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 7: thanks for letting me come by and show you guys

1888
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:11,920
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1889
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,960
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1890
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 7: I'm not sure if I'll be back before Christmas. Probably not,

1891
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 7: That's why I did the Santa today. But if i am,

1892
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:23,639
Speaker 7: I'll be seeing you guys coming over.

1893
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 2: You know.

1894
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah you are mistakes, Yeah you are all right.

1895
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:28,639
Speaker 8: I appreciate you guys.

1896
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:31,560
Speaker 3: Thanks, we'll do the great clips, great call of the

1897
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 3: game and a score on Monday Night. Coming up next

1898
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:36,759
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1899
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:49,400
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1900
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1901
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1902
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 3: All right time, you're great clips. It's gonna be great

1903
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 3: call of the game. Here is mister Siciliano with Shador

1904
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:10,559
Speaker 3: to Fannon. We're under a minute, we're under fifty.

1905
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 4: Clock is at forty seven.

1906
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 3: Sanders now on second and nine.

1907
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:15,759
Speaker 20: Shotgun has the ball up in the pocket.

1908
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 5: Sanders throwing deep. Fannon at the ten.

1909
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:21,440
Speaker 21: Pannon at the five Harold Pannon has a touchdown.

1910
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:23,759
Speaker 3: Touchdown pro.

1911
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:36,839
Speaker 21: Listen to this crowd, come alive right there, Shador Sanders,

1912
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 21: what do we say. He's gotta work on climbing the pocket,

1913
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 21: hits the top of his drop, climbs the pocket. Harold

1914
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:44,680
Speaker 21: Fannon runs a little corner and up it's like a

1915
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,519
Speaker 21: tight end leak almost he runs it out. They lose

1916
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 21: track of him, cuts it up the field. Judy on

1917
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 21: the clearout takes two defenders. Perfect ball, and you know,

1918
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:56,600
Speaker 21: Harold Fannon's not gonna be tackled. He's not gonna be denied. Touchdown.

1919
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 3: Brown man, that you go from that to then that's

1920
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 3: with forty five seconds left.

1921
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 4: Yep, thirty nine seconds left. Fannin, by the ways, unbelievable.

1922
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 6: God does not get tackled. No, my dad was very

1923
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 6: impressed that Harold Fannin and Judkins is like, first guy

1924
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 6: can't tackle him.

1925
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, they're good.

1926
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 3: No, they're studs. Both of them are studs. Yes, yeah, total. Yeah.

1927
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 3: It's it's too bad because you think about the joy

1928
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 3: in that moment of taking that lead and kind of

1929
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 3: the way you thought it would all go. We've got

1930
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 3: a Monday night er.

1931
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't think you're waiting up all day for it.

1932
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 20: The g Men two and ten in New England to

1933
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:37,799
Speaker 20: Battle of Rabes in company ten and two Patriots hosting

1934
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:41,680
Speaker 20: the Giants. Can't look past this one if you're the Patriots,

1935
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 20: Bob Bishop.

1936
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 4: I can't.

1937
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 3: I'm terrible. It's just a bad week. I can't go first, Okay,

1938
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 3: I don't deserve the right to go first say that

1939
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 3: it's been a rough it's been a rough week. Decent year,

1940
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,759
Speaker 3: but having a rough week made predictions a week before

1941
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 3: they started playing. No, but dude, I missed like seven

1942
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 3: of the my first eight, six of my first seven games.

1943
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 3: I mean it was brutal. I had a little rally

1944
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:05,480
Speaker 3: in the afternoon, or it could have been a historically

1945
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 3: bad week. It's tough, tough sleding out there.

1946
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 6: A couple of the big dogs came through for you

1947
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 6: late late, a couple of big favorites to go and

1948
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 6: through and do that, and they did. I like New

1949
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 6: England and this one. If this is Jamis, I'm on

1950
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 6: the other side of it because it's not. It's Dart's

1951
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 6: first game back. He's been very productive. Vabel I think

1952
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 6: is going to have a good plan for him, And

1953
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 6: I think that the Patriots are just a really really

1954
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:30,720
Speaker 6: good football team, and I think they are very cognizant

1955
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 6: of what they want to do, which is keep pace.

1956
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:35,600
Speaker 6: You know, that puts them at eleven and two. A

1957
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 6: win then would have to put them as the one

1958
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 6: seed currently. Now they're gonna have the bye week next week,

1959
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:42,559
Speaker 6: so I think they're gonna take care of business, leave

1960
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 6: it all out on the field. They got the extra day,

1961
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 6: it's kind of amazing on schedule worked out for that

1962
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:48,640
Speaker 6: much better than it did for some other teams. But

1963
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 6: they get the extra day for the buttone then they

1964
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 6: get their bye.

1965
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Speaker 4: So I like the Patriots. I like them big in

1966
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:53,559
Speaker 4: this one.

1967
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 6: I don't think it's gonna be particularly close, like twenty

1968
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 6: eight thirteen something like that.

1969
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Speaker 3: Same s's on everything that you said. It feels like

1970
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 3: that's where it's at. And yeah, Braves isn't gonna I

1971
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 3: don't think they're gonna have any looking them around. I

1972
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 3: don't think there will be any of that. I think

1973
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 3: they'll take care of their business and and be able

1974
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 3: to move it up and down the field. And and

1975
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

1976
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:13,519
Speaker 8: You could watch it the first.

1977
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Speaker 1: Half and.

1978
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Speaker 3: I was I thought the Thursday stuff was awesome. The

1979
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:21,559
Speaker 3: Thursday night games, Thursday games are awesome. They all were,

1980
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:24,320
Speaker 3: They were great. I did not see any of the

1981
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 3: Friday Friday. I was in a college football headspace Friday

1982
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:31,559
Speaker 3: and then and then yesterday. Obviously I watched the early stuff,

1983
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:34,800
Speaker 3: but then I didn't need much in the afternoon. You

1984
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 3: know the way that it all so a frontloaded schedule

1985
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 3: for sure.

1986
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 4: Find out those ratings US are saying, it's huge.

1987
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:43,599
Speaker 5: Huge.

1988
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 8: People don't need ratings to tell me what the scores

1989
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 8: were between the NFC, And.

1990
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Speaker 4: That's why I needed ratings. I need to take I

1991
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Speaker 4: need to tie you up.

1992
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Speaker 3: That's funny, like how something crazy is like us doing

1993
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Speaker 3: over unders influences how you watch Thursday night football.

1994
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Speaker 4: Up story Please, it's outrageous.

1995
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1996
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1997
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1998
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1999
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