1 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to another episode of Snake's Territory. I'm 2 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: Jesse Friedman. That's Jack Summers and Jack. Here we are 3 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: with another emergency edition of the podcast. As the Diamondbacks 4 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: trade au Hennio Suarez back to the Seattle Mariners and 5 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: they get three prospects in return. Its first baseman Tyler Locklear, 6 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: right handed pitcher Juan Burgos, and right handed pitcher Hunter Cranton, 7 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: all prospects in the Mariners system. Jack, of course, the 8 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: headliner here is the first baseman, Tyler Locklear, who made 9 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: his big league debut last season and has put up 10 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: some pretty good numbers here in Triple A in twenty 11 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: twenty five. 12 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was on a heater for about a week 13 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: just before getting called up to the Mariners, and he 14 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: has not appeared in a game with the Mariners this year. 15 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: He's in Sacramento right now, and he's about to, you know, 16 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: head over to the Diamondbacks locker room, I guess in 17 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 2: the morning, and so they'll move from there. But he'd 18 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: hit like five home runs in seven games and was 19 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: hitting over four hundred. That really, you know, upped his numbers, 20 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 2: and so that power jag had him. You know promoted already, 21 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 2: and I guess Bob Nightingale had tweeted. I think it 22 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: was that, you know, Jerry Depoto was bragging about Locklear 23 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 2: and how well he was doing and raving about him 24 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: at the Hall of Fame ceremonies, so I'm sure he 25 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: was doing his salesman work there. 26 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: So Tyler Locklear, you look at his numbers in Triple 27 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: A this season, and they're pretty impressive. Locklear has played 28 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: ninety eight games, he slashed three sixteen, four oh one 29 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: five forty two, nineteen home runs and eighty two RBI. Granted, 30 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: this is the Pacific Coast League. We're used to giving 31 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: that caveat around here. The Mariner's Triple A affiliate is 32 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: in Tacoma, though, which is definitely the most pitcher friendly 33 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: environment out of all of the PCL ballpark, So maybe 34 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: not quite as extreme as what we're used to seeing 35 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: for the d Backs in Reno. But what really stood 36 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: out to me here, Jack, is that if you look 37 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: at Tyler Locklear's numbers, something changed for him in the 38 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: month of June. I went back and looked at his 39 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: game logs, and if you use June twentieth as a separator, 40 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: the numbers are enormously different before and after that date. 41 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: From the start of the season through June nineteenth, in 42 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: Triple A, Locklear hit two eighty two, three seventy two, 43 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: four to twenty seven. That's a seven ninety nine ops. 44 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: It's not terrible, but it's also not great in Triple 45 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: A in a fairly hitter friendly environment. But from June 46 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: twentieth to now, Tyler Locklear in Triple A three ninety four, 47 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,279 Speaker 1: sixty one in eighty eight, A twelve forty nine ops. 48 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: Clearly he made some sort of a mechanical change. I 49 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: saw someone talking about this on Twitter who probably follows 50 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: Mariner's prospects more than I do. There's a tangible mechanical 51 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: change that he made, and it appears to have made 52 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: quite a difference. And Jack, I imagine that's part of 53 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: the calculus here for the Diamondbacks where they feel like 54 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: they're getting a different player than maybe what Tyler Locklear 55 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: was at the beginning of this season. 56 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: Right by the way. 57 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: You know, the other thing here too, is you know 58 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: they're filling first base right where you know, they didn't 59 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: really have a first basement ready to go next year 60 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: unless you believe that peven Smith, Tristian English. You know, 61 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: platoon is the way you want to go in the future, 62 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: and they just didn't have anybody in triple A or 63 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: even in Double A really that you can say is 64 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: close and could get up here and help. So one 65 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: of the things that Nick Pricora had written about recently, 66 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: which kind of raised an eyebrow, but I wish try 67 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 2: to focused on a little bit more, was the comment 68 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: that they could target a position player or two, Whereas 69 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: you know, the assumption has always been and that they're 70 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: targeting un controllable pitching, and we've talked. 71 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: About that forever. We kind of overlooked the fact that Mike. 72 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: Was interested in position player, and sure enough, the first 73 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: big trade he makes of one of his bigger trade chips, 74 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: he brings back a position player. 75 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: So pretty interesting, and I think you and I had 76 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: talked about this with the Mariners as a potential trade partner. Obviously, 77 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: the Dbacks already made a trade with the Mariners for 78 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: an asset you didn't expect to get as much for 79 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: in Josh Naylor, but that was always going to be 80 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: a challenge with these two teams. On a Gino Suarez trade, 81 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: the Mariners just didn't have that young pitcher who was 82 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: close to the big leagues, but that you figured was 83 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: actually available. 84 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 3: You weren't. 85 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: You know, you weren't going to get one of their 86 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: established young starters. You weren't going to get Brian Wu 87 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: you know, Logan at we talked about maybe you'd want it, 88 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: maybe you wouldn't, But either way, I kind of doubt 89 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: the Mariners would have made him available. And beyond that, 90 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: the Mariners, for as good of a farm system as 91 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: they have, they actually don't have very many pitchers near 92 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: the top of that list. It was basically Ryan Sloane 93 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: was the name that you and I kept going back to. 94 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: Sloan is listed as the number five prospect over on 95 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: MLB pipeline, but he is down in a ball right 96 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: now and you're probably looking at, you know, twenty twenty eight, 97 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty nine before you're going to see Sloan in 98 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: the majors. And we know the Diamondbacks are not that 99 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: that's not their priority right now. They want to try 100 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: to fill out their rotation and fill out their roster 101 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six more so than they're thinking, you know, 102 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: several years down the road. So with the Mariners in particular, Jack, 103 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised it went this direction with a position 104 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: player being the headliner asset for the Dbacks. 105 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 106 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: You know, a couple other little points, interesting points about Locklear. 107 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 2: He's had pretty heavy reverse splits. I was looking at 108 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: his splits and you know, it's like nine forty four ops. 109 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, ten thousand ops against righty, seven ninety four 110 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: against lefties this year, uh eight thirty two, seven eighty eight, 111 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: last year nine seven ninety three, the year before that 112 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: in twenty three. 113 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: And you know, I always. 114 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: Preach ignore reverse splits. They're not real, they don't last, 115 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: and I'll stick by that. But what I can glean 116 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: from this, a lot of times, you know, younger players 117 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: actually just aren't seeing enough left handers because only the 118 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: best left handers get up to the majors, and you know, 119 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: a lot of there's a pretty high attrition rate with 120 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: left hand pitchers, right so I think that's part of it. 121 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: Maybe, you know, especially also growing. 122 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: Up, you know, going to school, high school, college and 123 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: all of that, and it just takes them a while. 124 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: So some guys have pretty big reverse splits in the 125 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: minors and then all of a sudden they get to 126 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: the majors and everything normalizes. 127 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's likely going to be the case. But 128 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 3: the encouraging thing here then. 129 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: Should be, you know, as he sees lefties more, he'll 130 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: probably get better against lefties, and certainly should being to 131 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: hold his own more than more than able to hold 132 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: his own category against right hand pitching. 133 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: I think at this stage what would maybe be concerning, 134 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: if anything, is if there was a huge split and 135 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: he was, you know, great against lefties but just not 136 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: really doing anything against righty's. You can deal with this. 137 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: You can deal with the guy who has roughly even splits. 138 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: You kind of figure that that over time, the hitting 139 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: against lefties is going to come. One other point I'll 140 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: make about Lockley er real quick Jack, I made that 141 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: distinction earlier between before June twentieth and then after June twentieth, 142 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: and how big of a difference the surface level numbers have. 143 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: I want to take that a layer deeper and talk 144 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: about some of the underlying numbers. I did a search 145 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: over a baseball savant his barrel rate from June nineteenth 146 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: and before that five point two percent and from June 147 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: twentieth onward nineteen point one percent. Wow, the average exit 148 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: VLO was eighty eight point three before June twentieth. After 149 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: June twentieth it was ninety four point five, So you're 150 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: talking about really really significant differences there. I don't know 151 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: exactly what the mechanical change was. I'm not going to 152 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: try to speak on that with any authority right now, 153 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: but I saw someone reference this on Twitter, and clearly 154 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: there's something that happened there, and I have to believe 155 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: that was a big factor here for the dbacks. I mean, 156 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: on paper, jacket looks like two completely different hitters. This 157 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 1: is a guy who's really really done a lot of 158 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: damage here recently. 159 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: So somebody just texted me tweet from Oliver Bacner, who's 160 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 2: a prospect writer and draft writer, and he's completely supporting 161 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: exactly what he just said. Tyler Locklear adjusted a high 162 00:08:55,640 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: noisy handload in early June. He quoted numbers since June 163 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 2: eleventh is Afa Jecksavila one from eighty seven to ninety five. 164 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 2: His hard hit rate went from thirty eight to fifty four. 165 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 2: Barrel and launch angle have gone up, previously hitting two 166 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 2: sixty five with a three sixteen, and then it went 167 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: to three ninety four seven eighty four, so his starting 168 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: and after points were a little bit different. But a 169 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: noisy handload high noisy handloard, so obviously you know, quieted 170 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: things down up at the top there. So that's that's 171 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 2: really interesting that there might be a specific mechanical adjustment 172 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: that was behind this massive change. 173 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: The other thing I'll say about Locklear for all the 174 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: prospect list junkies out there, I know people of course 175 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: are looking up Mariners top prospects and seeing where Lockley ranks. 176 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: He's at number nine on MLB Pipeline. The Mariners had 177 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: eight prospects in the top one hundred, so Locklear is 178 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: the highest ranked guy who was not on that list. 179 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: He's not a top one hundred guy at MLB Pipeline, 180 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: but again he's theoretically right on the brink of it. 181 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: He's their highest ranked guy who isn't on that list. 182 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: Over at fangrafs. 183 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: No, wait, I tell you, this is a total fail, Jesse. 184 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 2: He's not in the top one hundred. 185 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 3: It's a fail. 186 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not necessarily saying that this is a 187 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: great trade. I think maybe when we get to the 188 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: end of this live stream and the dust has settled 189 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: a little bit for both of us, we can kind 190 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: of gather our thoughts of how we actually feel about 191 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: this thing. It's gonna take me maybe a little while 192 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: to really reflect, but yeah, Tyler Locklear is not a 193 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: top one hundred guy. The other thing I saw a 194 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 1: lot of people referencing was that over at Fangraphs, Fangrafts 195 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 1: actually updated their Mariners prospect lists in mid June, and 196 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: they have Lockleier. I believe it was the number twenty 197 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: two prospect in the Mariners organization. It was number twenty 198 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: one or twenty two, a forty future value, which is 199 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: not a particularly high number. But again, I go back 200 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: to these numbers that you and I have just been quoting. 201 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: That that scouting report was published on June thirteenth, which 202 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: is before Lockilier made the adjustments that you were just 203 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: talking about, and we've seen this enormous difference in the output. 204 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: So I have to believe if fan Graps was to 205 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: do their rankings again today, you know, maybe the numbers 206 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: would look a little different. 207 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: Yep, for sure. I mean, you know, they're kind of 208 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: like the rankings I do. They're very much results oriented, right, 209 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not a scout I'm not out there 210 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 2: watching these guys. I'm doing the same thing that everybody 211 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 2: else is doing, which is looking at numbers and watching 212 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 2: video when I can get my hands on it, you know, 213 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: and then talking to people that know more than I do, 214 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 2: and then hopefully I can assimilate some of that information 215 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: until I get a chance to actually see the player 216 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: play myself on see for myself on a regular basis. 217 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 3: You know. Once I get to see a guy. 218 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: Every day, you know, then I kind of can trust 219 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 2: my ability to weigh what the numbers say with what 220 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: I'm seeing and you know, see what passes a spell 221 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: test and what doesn't. But if I haven't seen them 222 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 2: play a lot, it's you know, you just have to 223 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: go by what you have. 224 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: Ernesto in the chat said that Locklear's eighteen stolen bases 225 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: isn't getting enough attention, something we should definitely mention. He 226 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: has eighteen stolen bases in Triple A this year in 227 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: twenty four attempts, so not an outrageously good success right there. 228 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: But he does have thirty nine career stolen bases in 229 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty five games, So at the very 230 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: least Jack's He's maybe someone that Dave McKay can work 231 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: his magic with right over over at first base. Maybe 232 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: there's a few stolen bases to be had in the 233 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: majors for Locklear as well. 234 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, at least we know he's athletic enough 235 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: to do that, right, I mean, whether that translates into 236 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: a stolen base total, we're talking about an athlete. 237 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 3: I mean it was a third base when moved over 238 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 3: the first You know, the. 239 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: Reports are that he's at least decent over there, so 240 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: the fact that he can run a bit is encouraging 241 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: as well. 242 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: Of course, defense is going to be a big factor 243 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: for the Dbacks as well. MLB Pipeline gave him a 244 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: forty five on the twenty to eighty scale with the 245 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: fielding grade. I think Fangrafts had a sixty future value 246 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: but a thirty present value in terms of defense. So 247 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 1: it appears there's a ways for him to go, but 248 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: that maybe there's some potential for him to settle in 249 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: pretty nicely on the defensive side of the ball. Certainly 250 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: for the Diamondbacks. That's going to be a point of 251 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 1: emphasis going into next season. Of course, Jack, there are 252 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: two other players here which we haven't really talked about yet, 253 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: So let's go ahead and do that. We'll start with 254 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 1: Juan Bergos, a twenty five year old right handed reliever 255 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: who has pretty good numbers in the minors. This year, 256 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: spent most of the season at Double A, a zero 257 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: point six y four er there, he was promoted to 258 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: Triple A, spent all of four games there, three innings pitched. 259 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: He allowed one run in those three innings, and then 260 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: the Mariners recently promoted him to the majors and had 261 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: him make his big league debut. He went six and 262 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: two thirds innings in the majors, gave up three runs, 263 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: two walks, eight strikeouts. Underlying numbers, for whatever it's worth, 264 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: looked pretty good in that stretch. It I think he 265 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: held his own well enough during his stint in the majors. Jack, 266 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: what stands out to you about Juan Burgos? 267 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: Just a ninety six mile an hour sinker with a 268 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: pretty deep repertory, throws a lot of different pictures, So 269 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 2: he's got velocity, and he throws quite a number of 270 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: pitches for a reliever. So we'll see how that, you know, translates. 271 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: They'll probably pair that down to three. Most likely that 272 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: he primarily uses that's usually the way that goes. They'll 273 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: figure out what he throws best. What stood out to 274 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: me here was you texting me earlier saying that I 275 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: think Burgos is the type of guy that the Diamondbacks 276 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: would target. Now, why didn't you tweet that, Jesse? You 277 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: could have got all that credit. 278 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 279 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: I never feel confident enough about these things to put 280 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: it out publicly because then, I, you know, I risk 281 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: being hated on by the people once inevitably that player 282 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: is not in the trade. But here, apparently I lucked 283 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: out jacket. Yes, Juan On Burgos was part of this 284 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: deal for the d Backs, right, So you. 285 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: Know, look, I don't know much more than anybody else 286 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 2: here does about him. Again, I've never seen him pitch. 287 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 2: I've been doing the same thing everybody else is doing. 288 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 2: But I think the point is that my co host 289 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 2: here is very much in tune with what the Diamondbacks 290 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 2: are looking for. 291 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 3: And so I think that's the key thing. 292 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: That we all have to remember here is you know, 293 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: they have scouts with eyes on these guys. These are 294 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: players that they've studied. You know, I'm certainly not in 295 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: a position yet to make any kind of you know, 296 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 2: value judgment on guys that I don't know much about. 297 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: I can pretend that I do, but I'm doing what 298 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: you guys are doing, and then just trying to understand 299 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: and interpret the data. I like guys that throw hard 300 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: and throw a number of different pitches, right, you know, 301 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: if it's a guy throws hard and he's a two 302 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: pitch pitcher, and you eliminate the second pitch, then everyone's 303 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 2: just going to sit on the fastball. So what I'm 304 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: going to be most interested to see with him is 305 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: which of his wide repertoire, which of his other four 306 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: pitches does he hold on to and become effective with, 307 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: you know, because we don't have any data on him, 308 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: Like we don't have stackcast stuff from Double A. 309 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 3: He's got, you know, a. 310 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 2: Few innings in the majors and a few innings in 311 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: Triple A, and so there's just really nothing to look 312 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: at there. So we're just going to have to wait 313 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: and see if he starts in the major leagues or 314 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 2: starts with Reno, and then start really digging in on 315 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: his data. 316 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 3: So we'll know more later. 317 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: It will be interesting to see what the Diamondbacks decide 318 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: to do there. He was promoted in late June up 319 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: to the majors, and then he was sent back down 320 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: to Triple A on July twenty first, so just a 321 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: little over a week ago. He's not all that far 322 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: removed from being in the majors. We'll see if the 323 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: d Bacs want to bring him back up or give 324 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: him a little bit more time in the minors. As 325 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: I said earlier, he's only pitched four games in Triple A, 326 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: so you could understand if the d Backs wanted him 327 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: to get a little more experience at that level, even 328 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: though he was totally dominant in Double A earlier in 329 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: the season. The other guy as part of this deal, Jack, 330 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: is another right handed pitcher, Hunter Cranton, twenty four years old. 331 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: Selected in the third round, ninety first overall just last 332 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,239 Speaker 1: season by the Mariners. He was a bit of an 333 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: older draft pick. He's twenty four years old now, and Jack, 334 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: there aren't a whole lot of innings in the miners 335 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,719 Speaker 1: to speak of here. He has a one point nine 336 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: to six ERA in the miners, but that's across just 337 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: nineteen games. He is currently in High A, where he 338 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: has a one point one to three ERA working out 339 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: of the bullpen. 340 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, I want to have tip our good 341 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 2: friend Aaron Hughes one more time. He was the one 342 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: that tipped me off to the fact that Cranton missed 343 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 2: a lot of time due to getting hit by a comebacker. 344 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 3: He was hit on the job by a line drive. 345 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 2: And so that's why his endings he missed a lot 346 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 2: of time because of that, and that's why his endings 347 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 2: totals this year are quite low. But he's got some 348 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: great stuff. Yes, he's an older prospect, you know again 349 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 2: people just opening up the book and seeing, oh, twenty 350 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: four year old and hia with few innings. 351 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 3: But I wouldn't go by that. 352 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 2: I mean, there's clearly got to be a reason why 353 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks would target him, and I think some of 354 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 2: the information that we've seen on him, you know, his 355 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: fastball can get up to ninety nine. 356 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 3: He's got eighteen. 357 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 2: Induced vertical break or a little over eighteen. That's you know, 358 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 2: some pretty impressive movement. This guy's got a big fastball. 359 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this stuff is definitely what definitely what stands 360 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 1: out here. Yeah, looking at just some highlights from his 361 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: collegiate career, it's pretty impressive. And this is a guy 362 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: it appears Jack. The plan from the Mariners side was 363 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: always to just develop him as a reliever. 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JACK 399 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: i guess now that we've talked about each of these 400 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: guys a little, bit we can step back a little 401 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: bit and we can see The diamondbacks acquiring The mariners number, 402 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: nine number, sixteen and number seventeen prospects according TO mlb 403 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: pipeline For Aohennio, suarez and we can ask the, question 404 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: how do we feel about? It did The diamondbacks get 405 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: enough in this? Trade i'll start with, You, jack what 406 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: do you? 407 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 3: THINK i don't. 408 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: Know that's not the correct, answer, right that's the. Answer 409 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: we're being. Honest that's not What i'm supposed to. 410 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 2: Say that's not what everybody wants to. Hear but, again 411 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 2: we're reacting to this, with you, know forty five minutes 412 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 2: of knowledge on these. PLAYERS i, MEAN i knew a 413 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: little bit About, locklear but not a. LOT i knew 414 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,719 Speaker 2: nothing about the two. Relievers and, look they're relievers that 415 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 2: basically you're just gonna have to wait and see how 416 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 2: they play. Out i'm kind of stepping back and trying 417 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 2: to see bigger picture. Here how DO i feel about 418 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 2: this trade in the context of the other two trades 419 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 2: that have been made where they picked up two relievers 420 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: in a. Starter clearly they're still pretty far off from 421 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 2: their goal of getting controllable starting. 422 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 3: Pitching SO i would be. 423 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 2: Lying IF i SAID i wasn't a little disappointed that 424 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: in the trade For Juhenniel. Suarez they don't have a 425 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 2: controllable starter that they can just plug in a, rotation 426 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 2: if not immediately now somebody that looks really close that 427 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 2: would be able to make their, debut maybe out of 428 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 2: camp in twenty six or something like. THAT i, MEAN 429 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 2: i was definitely hoping for, That So i'm a little 430 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: disappointed that it's not. That but at the same, time 431 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 2: there's a difference between hope and, belief and anyone that's 432 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 2: been listening to this podcast knows that there's kind of 433 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: a gap between what my hope and what my belief. 434 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 3: Was going to be on the. 435 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 2: Return, yeah so my expectations were already kind of at 436 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 2: a level of about where we're at with this. Deal 437 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,959 Speaker 2: so my initial reaction, is, yeah it's. Fine they got 438 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 2: a couple of potential believers that are going to pitch 439 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 2: into major leagues at some. POINT i, MEAN i would 440 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 2: believe that both of them are eventually going to be 441 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: in the major, leagues and they got a guy that 442 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 2: they can plug into first base. 443 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 3: Tomorrow. 444 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, YEAH i think that stepping back, this certainly we 445 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: can be honest and say that this is not what 446 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: The diamondbacks, wanted, RIGHT i think we can just kind 447 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: of straight up, say based on the, reports assuming those 448 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: reports are, accurate this return is not in line with 449 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: what The diamondbacks initial ask, was or maybe even really 450 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: all that close to. It there was a report From Daniel, 451 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: kramer who covers The mariners over AT mlb dot, com 452 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: saying that The diamondbacks were asking for two of The 453 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: mariner's top one hundred, prospects And Tyler, locklear AS i said, 454 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: earlier is not a top one hundred. Guy so theoretically 455 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: the D backs were asking for two guys that were 456 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: more that were more highly thought of than the best 457 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: player The diamondbacks got in this, deal at least on 458 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: paper right. Now so from that, standpoint it is clear 459 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: That diamondbacks had to compromise. Here this is not what 460 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: they set out. For on the other, Hand, jack there's 461 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: also the perspective of the D backs Trading gino back 462 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: to The, mariners the same team they acquired him, from 463 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: which is kind of funny how that worked, Out and 464 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: on that from that, standpoint this is a pretty massive. 465 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: Win The diamondbacks essentially Acquired gino in a salary, dump you, 466 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: know in late twenty twenty. Three they sent The Mariners 467 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: Carlos vargas And Sebbi, zavala two assets who had had 468 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,120 Speaker 1: very little value at the, time and they took On 469 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: geno's contract and that was basically. It they gave up 470 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: next to nothing For gino when they made that, deal 471 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: and here they're clearly getting a whole lot more than. 472 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: That so from that, standpoint The, diamondbacks this Whole Geno 473 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: Suarez diamondbacks arc has has gone pretty well for. Them 474 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: he was exactly what they needed at third base here 475 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: the last year and a, half and now they were 476 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: able to cash in and acquire a whole lot more 477 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: than what they initially dealt to get. 478 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: HIM i THINK i want to ask a question back to, You, 479 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: jesse did they clear the bar of the value of 480 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 2: the compensation? Pick if you make the assumption That gino 481 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 2: would have got at least three fifty, one maybe he 482 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: doesn't quite get the full amount That Christian walker would have, 483 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: got but just say he gets three fifty, one three, 484 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 2: years seventeen million average annual and that gets you that first, 485 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 2: pick first round. 486 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 3: Pick did this trade clear that? 487 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 2: Bar because that's been the bar THAT i, set and 488 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: That mike hasen set that everybody has. 489 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 3: Set you've got to do better than a comp. 490 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: Pick did, They, Well i'll repeat what you said earlier 491 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,719 Speaker 1: in the, Show jack and, SAY i don't. KNOW i, 492 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: mean at the end of the, day it's you, know 493 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: you have to see how how this plays, out, RIGHT i, 494 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: Mean Tyler locklear could be The diamondbacks first baseman of 495 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: the future for the next six. Years maybe he blossoms 496 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: into a really solid everyday player that is a member 497 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: of this team for a long. Time if it doesn't 498 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: go that, way then you know you're pretty dependent on two. 499 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: Relievers you feel like with the with the draft, pick 500 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: you know you probably aren't drafting a relief pitcher that 501 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: high in the. Draft so it's hard for me to say, Definitively, 502 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: jack just on, paper comparing the value of the, ASSETS 503 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: i think they probably did clear it just Given locklear 504 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: how it appears he's really trended in a promising direction 505 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: here in the last month or. 506 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,479 Speaker 3: So BUT i don't think it's. 507 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: OBVIOUS i, MEAN i don't think it's, like, oh it's 508 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: not even. CLOSE i wouldn't be comfortable saying. 509 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 2: That, YEAH i, MEAN i think you can probably say 510 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 2: they overall through volume cleared that. VALUE i, Mean lockley 511 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 2: was the second round draft, pick so it's not, like you, 512 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 2: know he was an eighth round pick who's kind of. 513 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 2: Outperformed you, know he's got the pedigree of a second 514 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 2: round pick. 515 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 3: Already so that's pretty close right. 516 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: There and the fact that he was performing in TRIPLE, 517 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 2: a you, know that makes him got to be pretty 518 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 2: darn close to the value of you know what that 519 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 2: compensation pick would, be which. 520 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 3: Would be between twenty eight and thirty two or. Whatever, 521 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 3: Right so it's a late first round of very early second. 522 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 2: Round, however you want to kind of look at it 523 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: in your, mind so then you know it's the two reliever. 524 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: Prospects if one of them makes it to the, show 525 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 2: and you. 526 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: Know burgos is probably going to make, it, RIGHT i 527 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: mean he was there like a week. 528 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 3: AGO i shouldn't say if they make. 529 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: It if they make it to the show and aren't, terrible, 530 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 2: sure you, know can give them thirty to sixty innings 531 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,479 Speaker 2: a year over the next three years that are above 532 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 2: replacement level relief. Work, sure if you can get that, 533 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 2: right if you can get one hundred and eighty, innings you, 534 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 2: know or one hundred and plus innings over the next 535 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 2: two three years above replacement level relief work And locklear 536 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: sticks as a, starter then it's a home run for 537 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 2: two months Of geno. 538 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: Totally. Yeah and when you keep in perspective that you 539 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: are just talking about two months of Au Hennio, suarez 540 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: it you, know you don't necessarily need to get a 541 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: franchise player in. RETURN i don't think that was a 542 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: realistic ask. Necessarily. Yeah AND i Think jeff also made 543 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: a great point, Here, jack which is the fact that 544 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: this fits The diamondbacks competitive window a whole lot. Better 545 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: if you do you get the comp. Pick you, know 546 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: maybe it does turn out to be a great, player 547 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: but that player is probably not playing in the majors 548 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: until twenty twenty, eight twenty twenty, nine twenty, thirty you, 549 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: know depending on how quickly they can. Develop and the 550 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: D backs it feels like we're in a position where 551 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: they would rather have the guy who's. Ready, now this 552 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: is a team that wants to contend in twenty twenty 553 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: six and has some genuine holes to. Fill, like as 554 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: you said, earlier the first base plan Post Josh naylor 555 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 1: is not clear at, all and obviously they have a 556 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: bit of a hole at third base that they're going 557 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: to have to figure out in the long run as. 558 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,959 Speaker 1: Well so plugging that hole with a guy that you 559 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: can just you, know run with out of the, GATE 560 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: i think is pretty. Helpful. 561 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 2: YEAH i, mean keep in, mind you, know The dbacks 562 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: had a cough up, slave soecny to Get Josh, naylor 563 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: you want him to get another good pitching, prospect to 564 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 2: get a first basement with one or two years of. Control, 565 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 2: sure there's that. TOO i, mean, look it's a roll 566 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: of the, dice. Right you, Know locklear had sixteen games last, 567 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 2: year wasn't able to make it. Happen he made some 568 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 2: improvements this. Year let's see if they're. Real this is 569 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 2: a this is a reasonable. 570 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: Chance, yeah that, WAY i think in terms of the 571 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: watchability of this team jack which is not necessarily a huge. 572 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: FACTOR i don't think it was the driving force In 573 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: Mike hazen's decision, here but the fact That Tyler locklear 574 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: is probably going to play, tomorrow or at least will 575 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: be available to play, tomorrow we think that's. SIGNIFICANT i 576 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: think it it breinges a little bit of new life 577 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: into the second half of this, season where dbaks fans 578 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,239 Speaker 1: have been understandably very miserable here lately things have not 579 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: looked good on the, field and you, know there's no 580 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: saying That Tyler locklear is necessarily going to jump into 581 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: the lineup tomorrow and you, know go three for four 582 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: with two extra base hits or. Something but there's something 583 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: intriguing about getting to watch a young player who has, 584 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: potential who's been raking in TRIPLE a here over the 585 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: last month and clearly deserves the opportunity that he'll. 586 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 3: Get. 587 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: Right there's a question in the chat From Boras, witbeck 588 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: so who's on Third? Lawler as we mentioned a few days, 589 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 2: Ago lawler hurt his hamstring a month, ago a little 590 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 2: over a month, ago And Sean, Larkin i'm not, sorry 591 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 2: Not Sean, clark And Chris liivka told me that he 592 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 2: would be out at least a. Month so WHEN i 593 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 2: spoke about this two three days, AGO i mentioned THAT 594 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 2: i would expect that the Closest lawler is is probably 595 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 2: another two. Weeks Gambo John gambadoro actually inquired on this 596 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 2: as well and said the same thing just now On, 597 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 2: twitter which, is you, know he's getting. Close in other, 598 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 2: words he's probably getting close to baseball. Activities, now you, 599 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 2: know he's going to have to work out at The 600 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 2: Complex league and there's no More Complex league games that, 601 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: ended so he can't have. There But i'm sure he's 602 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 2: working out at the complex at The Salt River complex 603 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 2: and we'll see how long it takes him to get 604 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 2: back in the. Games my, guess, right don't expect to 605 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 2: See lawler in the major leagues Before september call. Ups 606 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 2: that's WHAT i, repect, right BECAUSE i think that he's 607 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 2: probably a couple of weeks out from getting into, games 608 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 2: and then he's going to have to play for a 609 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 2: couple of weeks and then they'll probably bring him up 610 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 2: In september call. Ups so from now Until, september you're 611 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 2: looking At Blaize alexander for the most. 612 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: Part, yeah that's a. Gad maybe that's a good, call. 613 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 2: And they, may you, know like they may Bring Tim 614 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 2: tower back at some, point you, know if they feel 615 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 2: like he's made any adjustments that to asking him to. 616 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 2: Make tower can play third base as, Well so you, 617 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 2: know If blaze isn't performing well And tower is doing 618 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 2: well In TRIPLE, a they could make a switch there 619 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: and Give tower a few more weeks and see if 620 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 2: he's ready to make some, improvements and By september, ONE 621 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 2: i would Expect Jordan lawler to be at third. 622 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: Base, YEAH i think that's a that's a great, point 623 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: good analysis on your. Part we have A mariners fan 624 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: in the chat Saying locklear had been in the minors 625 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: for a while. NOW i think if he was going 626 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: to make it to the big leagues and be, decent 627 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: he would have done it by. Now we did reference 628 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: earlier That locklear did make HIS mlb debut in twenty twenty. 629 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: Four it did not go very well for. Him he 630 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: had a five thirty five. Ops it's quite a while ago, 631 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: now but this is a valid, Point jack That locklear 632 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: has been In TRIPLE a for quite a. While he 633 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: played seventy games there last year and ninety eight games this. 634 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: Year so that's more than one hundred and sixty two 635 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: games one hundred and sixty eight games all together In TRIPLE. 636 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: A so it is encouraging for sure to see this 637 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: mechanical adjustment In june pay off the way that it. 638 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: HAS i think there's definitely something to that that intrigues. 639 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: Me at the same, time you, know a hitter In TRIPLE, 640 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: A a in a hitter friendly, league you'd kind of 641 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: hope that after one hundred and fifty plus games that 642 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: the hitter would would start to make some, progress. 643 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 3: Which he, did, Right, YEAH i mean that's the. 644 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 2: Point you, Know, yes it's one hundred and sixty eight, 645 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 2: games but he's made a lot of progress In TRIPLE. 646 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 2: A i, mean he was a twenty twenty two, draftee 647 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 2: so it was kind of getting close to the a 648 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 2: now or never type thing if it lasted much longer 649 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 2: for him to kind of find. It BUT i don't 650 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 2: think IT'S i certainly don't think a twenty four year 651 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 2: old in his second go At TRIPLE, a you, know 652 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 2: that's crushing the ball is too. 653 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 3: Late BUT i. 654 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: Appreciate that perspective because it is getting closer to that. 655 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 2: POINT i talk about it all the time once you 656 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 2: get over you, know WHENEVER i call my, LIST i, 657 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 2: mean you you get those twenty five year Old TRIPLE 658 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 2: a guys, hitting putting up monster, numbers and it almost 659 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 2: never works out in the. Majors so twenty four is 660 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: bumping up. Again certainly would have been more reassuring had 661 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 2: he been able to force his way onto The mariners 662 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 2: roster before. This they certainly had a need at first 663 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 2: base and he wasn't able to do. 664 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 3: It so that's a legitimate. Point. 665 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 1: Absolutely we got another comment in the chat That i'm 666 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: trying to find, here our Buddy Jeff. Irving my question, 667 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: though is who is going to trade AN mlb ready 668 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: pitcher for a pitcher made more sense to get the 669 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: pitching From. Gino that's a fair point On jeff's. Part 670 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: if you're Trade, Merrill, kelly you're trading A Zach gallen, 671 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: tomorrow and you are trying to land that young starting 672 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: pitcher that we've been talking, about the elusive young starting 673 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: pitcher that we know The diamondbacks would. Like you figure 674 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: it might be a little harder if you, know if 675 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: you're trading with a team that clearly needs, pitching otherwise 676 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: they wouldn't be dealing for one of those guys in 677 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: the first. 678 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 2: Place, yeah, well, hey maybe this is where we get 679 00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 2: the infamous package deal And Zach merroll both. 680 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 3: Go to the same. 681 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 2: Team, wow you, know to some team that's just being super, 682 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 2: aggressive like this is our, Year we're gonna make it 683 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 2: to The World. Series you, know a lot of those 684 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 2: options may be. DWINDLING i, mean we're seeing The Red 685 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 2: sox and The, astros two teams that we're looking for 686 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 2: starting pitching kind of making moving in some other, directions 687 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 2: so we'll have to see their market may be. 688 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: Narrowing, yeah, YEAH i think that's very. Possible on the 689 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: starting pitching, Front, jack it feels LIKE i still feel 690 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: fairly confident that The diamondbacks are going to wind up 691 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: trading both of those. GUYS i, Know gambo tweeted here 692 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: in the last thirty minutes or. SO i expect there 693 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: will be a lot happening. Tomorrow brace. Yourselves so that's 694 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: certainly telling and makes me think all the more that 695 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: those guys will be. Dealt but the starting pitching, Market 696 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: jack has been very strange so. Far we haven't seen 697 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: a whole lot of movement on that. Front it feels 698 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: like teams are kind of going the discount route so. 699 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: Far we've Seen Michael soroka come off the, books we've 700 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: Seen Zach ltel from The Tampa Bay rays was acquired 701 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: earlier in the, evening but we really haven't seen any 702 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: of those marquee starting pitchers go just. Yet and obviously 703 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: that's kind of what the D backs are waiting. FOR i, 704 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 1: mean maybe you're not Considering Zach allen A marquis starting 705 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 1: pitcher at this point in his, career but he has 706 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: he has a big time track, record and the D 707 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: backs are definitely going to be shooting higher than you 708 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: know what those teams got for those other pictures earlier. 709 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 2: Tonight, yeah, well you, KNOW i do want to circle 710 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 2: back to, You Henio. Suarez, YEAH i, mean what a. 711 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 2: Year Four player of the, WEEKS a four home a, 712 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 2: game you, know thirty six home, runs eighty seven RBIs 713 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 2: what a tremendous. 714 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 3: Season you. 715 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 2: Know yes it was, streaky and yes it was up and, 716 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 2: down and yes there were some things to be left 717 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:58,479 Speaker 2: desired on the defensive, side but, man just watching him 718 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 2: step step forward and pull yet another blast into the 719 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,399 Speaker 2: left field bleacher time and time and time. 720 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 3: Again it was. 721 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 2: Fun it was a lot of fun to, watch but 722 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 2: it was even more fun getting to know him and 723 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 2: interact with him and just see the kind of person 724 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 2: that he. Is i've said this before in the, blog 725 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,240 Speaker 2: and just for anybody that's, NEW i just want to repeat. 726 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 3: It everything that you see. 727 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 2: And hear about, You Henniel suarez is. Real he's that. 728 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 2: Guy he's always got a, smile for. You he's always ever, 729 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,879 Speaker 2: vescent he's always, upbeaten. Positive he has his moments where 730 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 2: he shows his frustration and all, that but he genuinely 731 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 2: is that. Guy so you, know nobody everywhere he goes 732 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 2: they love him and there's a reason for. It and 733 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 2: SO i just really hope that now that he's got 734 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 2: a little bit you, know new stance going on and 735 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,919 Speaker 2: ability to get out and make contact with the ball 736 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 2: six inches or a foot further in front of the, 737 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 2: plate he can hit a few more bombs In, seattle 738 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 2: AND i would love to see that projection be wrong 739 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 2: about eleven more home. RUNS i hope he hits twenty five. 740 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 2: MORE i think it would be the most killer thing 741 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,240 Speaker 2: to see him come up to sixty one home. Runs 742 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:19,240 Speaker 2: so we're All Gino suarez. Fans if anybody misunderstood anything 743 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 2: THAT i was saying, about you, know evaluations and, trades 744 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 2: please don't. 745 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 3: MISREAD i think he. 746 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 2: Had a heck of a year and he's a heck 747 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 2: of a person AND i want him to have a 748 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 2: lot more. 749 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 3: Success that was very well. 750 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: SAID i think that in ten twenty years from, Now, 751 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: jack when people are asking on social media just for, 752 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: fun like who are you, know who is your Favorite 753 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: diamondback of all, time or you know who are your 754 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 1: favorite like Random diamondbacks or. WHATEVER i Think Gino suarez 755 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 1: his name is going to pop up a lot in 756 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: those types of questions for, many many years to. Come 757 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: His diamondback's tenure was not very. Long you, know we're 758 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 1: talking about a year and two THIRDS i guess some 759 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 1: like two hundred and sixty, games but they were memorable 760 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,919 Speaker 1: and not just the big numbers that he ended, with 761 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: but the storyline along the. Way we've talked about it 762 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,760 Speaker 1: a lot, here but we were not very far last 763 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: season from seeing The diamondbacks Designate Gino suarez for. Assignment 764 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: that was a real. Thing there's reporting behind that that 765 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: that was at least a discussion that was going on 766 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,879 Speaker 1: behind the. Scenes and thank, Goodness jack that The diamondbacks 767 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,240 Speaker 1: did not do, that BECAUSE i cannot imagine how ugly 768 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: things would have gotten around here if the D backs 769 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: had moved on From suarez and he went on to another. Organization, 770 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 1: basically some team you, know picked him up for next 771 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 1: to nothing financially and had him go off the way 772 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: that he has here over the last calendar. Years you, 773 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: said it has been unbelievable to. 774 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 3: WATCH i would have been have the stomach. THAT i 775 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 3: don't think, anyway would he was the same. 776 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,439 Speaker 2: GUY i, mean you were in the club with us, Too, 777 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 2: jesse and you, know even the first half of last 778 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 2: year when he was struggling so, MUCH i, mean he 779 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 2: never acted like. That he never moped around the. Clubhouse 780 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 2: he never acted like a guy that was. Struggling he'd 781 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 2: walk in the clubhouse and shout out to teammates and 782 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 2: shout out to media, members and you, know his movements were. 783 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 2: BIG i mean like he just everything he did was, like, 784 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 2: yeah life is, great, man you know the Whole i'm 785 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 2: lucky to be. Here very few people personified that more Than. 786 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 1: Gino gino finished With he's at least right now having 787 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: the best season of his. Career HIS wrc plus in 788 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,359 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five is one forty, three and of course 789 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 1: he's doing that at the age of thirty. Four, so 790 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: as you, Said, jack we very much wish him all 791 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,240 Speaker 1: the best In. Seattle i'm Sure mariners fans are stoked 792 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,240 Speaker 1: to have him. Back be very, funny you, know tuning 793 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: Into mariner's games and seeing Both Josh naylor And Gino 794 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,439 Speaker 1: Suarez it kind of makes me think in, Retrospect, jack, 795 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,399 Speaker 1: like what would the package deal have looked like if 796 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,919 Speaker 1: the D bacs had just traded Both gino And Josh 797 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 1: naylor on the front, End you, know what would the 798 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,760 Speaker 1: return have look? Like then maybe they could have tapped 799 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: into The mariner's top one hundred. List it's kind of 800 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: a moot. Point now we won't go, there but you, 801 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: know just an interesting thing now that's running through my. 802 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 2: Mind, Yeah mike addressed that, Too he felt like he 803 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,720 Speaker 2: would do better splitting the guys. 804 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 3: Up, yeah you, know, SO i mean that's. 805 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 2: Hard to say if that's absolutely. TRUE i, mean maybe 806 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 2: they had those discussions and, okay take them, both you, 807 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 2: know give me your number two or three guy or, 808 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 2: whatever you, know and that was off the table For Jerry, 809 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,240 Speaker 2: depoto so they went in a different. 810 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: Direction, Well i'll be very curious to see What Mike 811 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: hazen says about this. Move we expect that he will 812 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,800 Speaker 1: speak to the media at some, point probably not, tonight 813 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: given that it's after ten THIRTY pm here In. Arizona 814 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: maybe sometime tomorrow. Morning maybe we wind up waiting until 815 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: when the trade DEADLINE ruckus is over and we hear 816 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: his comments tomorrow afternoon on all of the deals that 817 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: the D backs have made at that, point AND i 818 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,320 Speaker 1: think that's maybe a good place for us to finish. 819 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 3: Here. 820 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: Jack it feels like a lot's gonna happen. TOMORROW i 821 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:17,320 Speaker 1: reference The gambo tweet. EARLIER i, maybe you, know maybe 822 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: it's not Just Zach gallon And Merrill kelly that he's referring. 823 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: To maybe there's A jake McCarthy trade in the. Works 824 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,919 Speaker 1: we know The astros have had some reported interests, there 825 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: and who knows what else could be. Happening the D 826 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 1: backs are interested on the by side as well in 827 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: acquiring a controllable. Reliever that's Something Mike haysen has talked about. 828 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: Recently so you, know maybe the team even brings in 829 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: some real major league ready, talented a name that people 830 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 1: are familiar, with in more of a bye type of. 831 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: Trade so anything is anything is possible, Here. 832 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 2: Jack, Yeah so, tomorrow, folks you, know come on. Back 833 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 2: we will be here tomorrow after the trade deadline, ends 834 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 2: and you, know we're gonna wait until the last train 835 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 2: age trickle in and then see if we get to 836 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 2: talk To. MIKE i think if we get to talk To. 837 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 2: Mike we'll be able to bring a little bit more 838 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 2: to you guys than, just you, know speculation about what 839 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 2: the team was. Thinking we'll try to get it direct 840 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 2: from the horse's mouth why they made the moves that they, 841 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 2: did and we'll bring all of that to you tomorrow for. 842 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: Sure AND i don't, know maybe if the D backs 843 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 1: did something like early in the day, tomorrow maybe we 844 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 1: would go live separately and react to that as. Well 845 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 1: but who, knows you, know maybe all these deals wait 846 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,439 Speaker 1: until The maybe they're all buzzer beaters and we don't 847 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: really get much More dbacks news until past three. Pm 848 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 1: even we've seen that happen in years. Past so As jack, 849 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: said definitely keep it locked here To Snake's. Territory be 850 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: sure to subscribe to the channel if you haven't already 851 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 1: liked the. Video really helps us out with the YouTube algorithm, 852 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 1: gods and we are all about that around. Here we 853 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 1: really appreciate all of you sticking with us here late 854 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 1: on This wednesday. Night you can find us on social. 855 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: MEDIA i am at Jesse En. Friedman jack is At 856 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: Shoe wizard fifty nine in our show is At Snake's. 857 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: Territory jack does a great job covering the D backs 858 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: over at si dot com SLASH mlb Slash, diamondbacks so 859 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 1: be sure to keep it locked over there as well 860 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: for all of his, Analysis, jack do you have something 861 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:15,839 Speaker 1: to add? 862 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 2: Here, NO i just got a little bit more scouting 863 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,879 Speaker 2: and report. Information, okay we'll revisit it. Tomorrow, Okay, okay 864 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 2: good go, On, so of, course you know we're all 865 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 2: doing the same. Thing phone goes, off you gotta. 866 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 1: Check, Yeah i've never been more glued to my cell 867 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: phone than the twenty four hours leading up to the trade. 868 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 1: DEADLINE i think IT'S i think it's. Unhealthy but life 869 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: will return to normal tomorrow, night so we look forward to. 870 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 3: That all, right, everybody have a good. 871 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: Evening, yeah thank you again all for being. Here we 872 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: really appreciate. It and As jack, said we will be 873 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,399 Speaker 1: back with another episode Of Snake's territory very very. 874 00:44:52,440 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 3: Soon as