WEBVTT - Daredevil: Born Again Season 1 Finale 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:06.040 Worrying. Today's episode contains spoilers for the season finally of Daredevil, 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:26.319 Born Again Dward. Hello my name, it's Jason Gepsion, and 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:28.120 welcome back to x Ray Vision of the podcast where 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:31.720 we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics of 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:34.320 pop culture, Company from My Heart podcast, where we're bringing 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:37.360 you three massive episodes of week listeners. 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:40.680 In today's episode, Well we've made it here, guys. 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:46.760 It's been years of drama reshoots, recasting, killing people, bringing 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:47.200 them back. 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:48.000 What's going on? 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:52.319 Well, it's the Daredevil finale, and my, oh. 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:54.840 My, it's gonna be an interesting conversation because. 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:56.760 This is a divisive one, not just in the discord, 0:00:56.800 --> 0:01:02.120 but also in the production team. 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:06.759 Let's get into it. First, we open one year ago flashback. 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:11.119 Vanessa goes to visit Dex in the mental War. Des 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:12.920 is heavily drugged. 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:14.919 Guys, can we give this matter break? 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:18.280 I never thought I never thought I'd feel bad for Dex. 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:20.640 But this is definitely a scene where you're like, God, 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:24.920 this guy's, this horrific serial killer is getting exploited by 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:26.720 this by Vanessa Viz. 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:30.080 He's like, He's like, please, I don't want to fucking 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:30.720 kill anyone. 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:32.640 I just want to stay in jail, like, I don't 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:35.440 want to do it. I don't want to Yeah, I 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:36.600 don't want to do it anymore. 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:39.160 And she's like, well, sorry, I've got your release. So 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:43.320 she's like, listen, I'm getting your released and in return, 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:47.240 I need you to kill two people, Ben Kofaro and 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:52.080 his lawyer Foggy Nelson. They have information about my organization 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:54.440 that cannot become public, and I need you to kill him. 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:58.960 And Dex is like, ah, I'm not killing in here. 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:02.160 I'm getting my medication. I don't want to do it, 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:04.320 and she's like, no, you gotta fucking do it. You're 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:04.640 doing it. 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:06.600 Yeah. I also I like the way that she tries 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:09.000 to sell it to him, like she's like, I need 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:10.200 you to kill a thief. 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:17.400 They're a bad person. You're doing something right. He just 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:19.560 kills the whole family like chill out. 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:23.480 He can barely sign his name to the release forms, 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:27.640 that's how like medicated he is. We flash forward to 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:30.360 the present. Matt's waking up in the hospital after being shot, 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:35.680 you know, by Ben Poindexter. The bullet crazy to save 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:40.440 Willson Fisk's life. For some reason, Heather and Kirsten are there. 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.600 They tell him that Fisk is fine, and Matt is 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:48.240 immediately like the foggy case, what's going on? Like that? 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:51.760 That's why, that's what's going on. I need to find 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:54.040 what are the documenting? Are there any documents looked over 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:55.600 from that case? Like what do we know about that case? 0:02:56.120 --> 0:03:00.920 Fisk and Vinessa at home, still in their bloodstained getting 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:07.880 real horny and like they are these two are freaks. 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:11.280 I will say that, like they're horrendous people. But it's 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:15.840 it's it is. There's something like touching about two people 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:19.119 who find their person and certainly they are for each other. 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:22.359 Oh, it's very it's very match my is somebody gonna 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:25.040 match my freak? These twos freaks match, They love each other. 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.600 They love a little horny like are you gonna assassinate me? 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:30.919 Type situation? You know, but what can we say? 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.800 Yeah, you're gonna how are you gonna try and kill me? Today? 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:39.080 And so then Fisk basically says, in not so many 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:42.160 words that he knows that Vanessa I pulls I to 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:45.320 try and kill him, and honestly you can tell like 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:48.000 he it turns him on a little bit. And then 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:51.640 he tells Vanessa, you know here's here's what's up this 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:55.400 port deal. It's gonna be we were stealing millions before. 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:59.800 Now we're gonna be stealing billions through the billion billions billions. 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:01.200 We made the big time. 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:01.640 Baby. 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:05.800 Matt, then in the hospital, explains his Foggy theory to 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:09.320 Kirsten with the you know m you know mc alviani's 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.320 and the whiskey, and he was drinking it to celebrate 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:14.720 the whole thing. She said, well, Foggy was going to 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.000 file emotion to dismiss. And he's like, where's the motion, 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:21.599 where's the documents? Where are they? And Heather and Kirsten 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:25.920 are like, Matt, you've just been you've just been shot. 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:29.240 Could you go to bed? Fleas. 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:32.360 My favorite part is like Heather is like so stressed 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:35.400 at this point, she's in bed and the room massive bed, 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:38.320 and she's like He's like, you know, fis She's like, 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:39.440 why did you Guys Like. 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:42.560 Yeah, you get you're. 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:44.560 Telling me he saved him so he could be the 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:47.720 one to catch him. He's such a little batman. 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:52.520 Same night, later the same night, everybody feel in their 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:56.000 ballroom attire, and Fist calls a meeting of his whole 0:04:56.040 --> 0:05:01.560 political team. He is feeling in it. He is like 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:06.359 in a flow stealing. He is like dirty cops, no 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:09.400 more warrants, no more body cams, kill anybody you want 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.799 on the snoot, We're doing no due process. 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:13.240 We're rich seizing. 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:22.599 It's something. It is really something when a comic book 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:26.360 villain is written in such a way to seem insanely 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:29.000 power mad, and then all of a sudden the real 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:32.039 world rises to meet that standard. 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:34.640 I think, you know, we were talking about this in 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.520 regards to the Pit and how it's even that show 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:40.119 is really a response to COVID, but it still feels 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.400 relevant because a lot of people still have COVID and 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:46.760 there's still bad, you know, bad business in the medical industry. 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:48.880 And Noah Wyley's mom was a nurse, so she was 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:50.719 calling him every time he watched she watched dr and 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:52.440 being like this is wrong, so make it right. In 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:55.160 the Pit and in this show, this show that has 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:58.800 been in production for like four years, they did something 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.120 where they told what I'm sure they. 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:02.560 Felt it was so crazy. 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:06.599 Yeah, crazy, But now you're watching it and you're like, Jesus, 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:08.960 I know. Eric Adams just could wish that he was 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:12.080 acting like Maphisk, like in public, like you know what's happening. 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:15.599 So nobody cams no due process. Fisk is like, I 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:22.600 want the city sealed, cut the bridges, uh, martial law everywhere. Afterwards, 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:28.160 Buck is like, hey, some bad news, Boss Murroc is 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:30.160 gonna live, and Fisk is like, well, wouldn't it be 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:33.120 great if he didn't? What a better story that would 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:38.960 have been killed Matt Murdoch, like a rabble rousing lawyer 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:43.760 for the dispossessed and the powerless killed by a masked vigilante. 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:44.679 Let's make it happen. 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:48.080 Buck, He's like, He's also like come on, man, like 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.240 just think about it. Isn't a dead hero better than 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:52.600 alive vigilante? 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:54.800 And I was like, man, that's a fucking good line. 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:55.480 Like wow. 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.400 Fisk then orders Sheila to snitch on the rest of 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.400 the staff, and Sheila, I have to say, is has 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:05.160 acted this entire series as if everything she's asked to 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:07.760 do is like the worst thing, and she's just struggling 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:10.280 with it so hard, and yet every time she folds. 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.400 And does it yeah, which I find is a very 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:16.240 interesting position because she's basically like, I'm beat than this. 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:18.559 I would never do that, and then immediately goes and doesn't. 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:21.640 Yeah, so I think she is a realistic representation kind 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:24.520 of that white Lotus conversation we were having, like absolute 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:27.920 power corrupts absolutely, Like Sheila is gonna sell these people 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:29.239 out to save her own skin. 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:34.400 So you know she's she's been told like, Okay, tell 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:36.440 me who's not loyal in my organization and give me 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.800 the names. Shila doesn't love it. Clearly you can tell 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.320 by her face she doesn't love it. She leaves the office. 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:43.920 Chief Gallo comes to her and is like, this is 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.560 fucked up. This is crazy. We need to do something. 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.080 You and I need to do something. I'm going to 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:52.920 Albany and I'm gonna I can't call Albany. I have 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:57.160 to go there personally and tell the governor and the 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:00.600 state government in person that is planning to do on this. 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.200 There's no way I could like call anybody else or 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:06.280 send an email or text or call the New York 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:08.680 Times or anything. I have to I have to go 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:09.920 tomorrow in person. 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:13.160 So is like, don't go. 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:16.760 Not great. It's yeah, the Capitol district, that's not great, 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:20.160 but listen, not great. No shots to Albany. Uh. 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:22.680 I have. 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:26.680 I at some delicious pet's are in Albany. But I 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:29.280 do feel like it's weird all the way to Albany. 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:31.880 He could have picked up a phone, but anyway, and 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:34.600 She'll was like, I got your back. I'm gonna back 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:40.600 you up. Uh Matt is you know it's been four 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:43.680 hours since he was shot and he's lying in his 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:48.280 hospital bed and power goes off across the whole city. 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:53.120 And while that's happening, Matt hears through all the tumult 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:56.839 and the craziness. He hears Buck Cashman entered the hospital like. 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:01.560 Was it because they were playing killing me softly slowly 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.240 over his and friends with Joel was not a fan. 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:05.160 Of and we'll talk about like that. 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:08.000 We'll talk about that. And so Matt is like, uh, oh, 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.320 Buck Cashman's here kill me. I could hear him. I 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:11.960 can smell him. I know he's in the building. He 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:14.960 sneaks away, he sneaks home to his apartment and guess 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:20.199 who's at his apartment. Frank Castle is broken. He was 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:24.800 coming back and they argue, and they bicker back and forth, 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:28.040 as they often do. Is like, well, you know, what's 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:33.440 what's going on? Matt? And he says, listen, I'm here 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:35.120 to help you. I don't want to help you. I 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.240 don't like the way you do business. But you know what, 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:41.319 Matt Murdoch, someone, some secret someone gave me a call 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.839 and made me promise to help him. Reed to do it. 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:46.960 Who is this person? Will find out soon. Frank then 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:52.760 tell yeah, I wonder. Frank then tells Matt, listen, when 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:56.640 the bad guys the Task Force get here and Buck 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:59.600 Cashman maybe and whoever the Fiscus sending to kill you, 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:02.800 I going to kill them, okay, And I don't want 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.000 you to have it, just so, just so you know, 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:08.280 don't have a problem with it. Okay, By the way, 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.360 why did you take a bullet for Fisk? And Man 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:11.440 is like, I don't even know. 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:13.880 He's like at this point, I don't find know. 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:17.800 Like I think did I think he did it because 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.960 he's just completely out of it, like obviously. 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:24.560 But also like he he killed Fisk. 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:26.880 And I do think this is a very interesting part 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:29.960 of how they explore Matt here. I think somewhere inside 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:32.440 him he just killed him because it's like, that's that's 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:32.840 my job. 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:33.440 I'm dead devil. 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:35.800 I take a bullet if somebody's getting shot, like and 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:37.960 I think it was almost like a muscle memory, but 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:41.760 also because he can't exist without Wilson Fisk. Dead devil 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.800 didn't exist when Fisk went straight, Yeah, devolhood was off 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:47.560 the streets, you know. So he needs him alive to 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:49.920 justify what he is doing. 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:53.720 I think he wants more than anything to expose Wilson 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:57.040 Fisk in the eyes of the public, in the court 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:01.199 of law, shine daylight on his operations, everybody look look 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:04.440 at this guy, and not have him be killed and 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.080 become like a martyr figure that other people were going 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:09.960 to follow. I think that's what Mad is going for. 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:15.160 So the task force arrives and it's a it's a 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:20.160 it's a huge fight with Frank murder maybe cops left 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:21.440 and right and left and right. 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:24.680 If I got punishing logo on the chest, he's gotten him. 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:27.240 With a guttnam. He's shooting him in the head. He's 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:29.280 blowing them away with his shotgun. 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:30.280 Frank. 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:34.559 Matt is like, Frank, stop it, stop it, and Frank 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:35.320 is just like no. 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:39.560 Matt says that. 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:41.480 But then he's also like hitting people in the head 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:45.280 with Billy cops, like definitely causing some traumatic brain injuries. 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:49.600 More on that in a bit, because Okay, so the 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:54.200 fight is over. They've they've killed like a dozen Task 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:59.800 Force guys and you know, incapacitated, maybe half a dozen 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:05.600 eight more. Matt uses one of the Punisher inscribed bullet 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.360 casings to id the copy killed Hector, and Mac gets 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:13.640 really mad and he hits him full force in the 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:18.079 hand with the Bully Club Billy Club like full American 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:22.520 history xx curb stump. Yeah, level of molosity. This guy 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:23.880 is fucking dead. 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:26.800 Yeah, he's definitely dead or in a coma. 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:30.079 And also as well, like I think that something that 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:38.160 was very enticing to me is that this is the 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:43.160 hardest we have ever seen any Punisher story kind of 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:45.199 deal with the real. 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:48.360 Life comics anywhere, not even in the comics. 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.360 No, in the comics, it's like the change the logo, 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:53.880 like we want to re we don't want it to 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:57.640 be appropriated, blah bah blah. Here Matt, Matt and Frank 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:00.280 do exactly what Frank would really do if he was 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.480 a real past and which is kill a ton of 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:05.440 fucking cops because they have taken this thing that means 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.080 something to him. And we get a great little kind 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:10.160 of teaser of how Frank feels about it in la 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:10.640 a scene. 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:15.200 So Frank is like, you know, Matt really wax this 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:17.600 guy in the head. And there's that like aluminum baseball 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:24.160 bat sound. The cops slumps. Frank is like, yeah, yeah, Red, 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:28.920 get him, Red, don't stop now get him and then 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:33.160 and then Matt's clearly not gonna keep going from I'll 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:37.880 do it. And then Matt, this is three Stooges level funny. 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:41.120 I laughed out loud. Matt is like, Frank, don't do 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:44.360 don't kill We'll just stop killing cops. And Frank is like, oh, 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:47.080 he'd be like this, Red, he just shoots a different guy. 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:49.560 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it. He goes like this, 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:53.400 He's like you He's like, he's like, oh, you don't 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:55.040 you don't want me to shoot this cop? How about that? 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:59.839 Don't just kill him? And then they are bickering out. 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:04.240 Now that chemistry is so good. 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.520 Absolutely, it's like get a room, you two. So they're 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.680 just now they're just bickering back and forth, arguing, and 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:16.120 then Matt's like, wait, hold on, Frank, shut up. There's 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.920 a grenade that's just been thrown in this part of 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:23.440 somewhere head like you're So they dive out the window 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:26.560 with incredible Matt clearly, you know, using his Billy club 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.840 winch to to allow them to break their fall, and 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:36.320 they survive. A car pulls up as as Matt's apartment explodes. 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:40.360 It's Karen. Karen is the one who called Frank. They 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:45.280 go back to Frank's apartment or subterranean like dungeon whatever, 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:48.440 These bumper under an apartment building, and I gotta say 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:53.680 immediately there's chemistry between Frank and Karen hold On. 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:58.520 Yeah, so if you remember the Punisher series from Netflix, 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:00.840 they were definitely trying to establ bish some kind of 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:04.040 they romantic connection. But I don't know that the chemistry 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:07.480 was as palpable as just in this tiny scene, like 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:11.200 really taped up. Karen is the one who called Frank. 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:14.120 They clearly talk to each other a lot. They know 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:17.600 how they like each other's coffee. Like this is obviously 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:20.400 a thing that not just us but Matt consents to. 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:24.080 And honestly, he's love triangle, you know, mate is how. 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:27.800 You know Matt is smelling it. He's like hearing the elevator. 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:31.920 He's such a little creeper, Like, don't do that, Matthew. 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:32.920 It's weird. 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:39.280 So yeah, Karen is definitely, like I can save Frank Castle, 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:41.840 like I can reach him his inner child, Like I 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:46.080 can save that little boy. Matt then tells Karen, hey, 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:48.440 Vanessa is the one who killed Foggy. It was about 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:50.440 the case. What's going on with that case? Where can 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:53.240 we find the documents? And Karen is like, oh, I 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:57.200 know where we put all the documents from all you know, 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:02.800 our former you know, Murdoch and Sing and Matthew should 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:04.880 have made she like, I know where all of that 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:07.160 that stuff is archived. Let's go get it. 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:09.320 And it's because she was just that, she was basically 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:11.760 just a secretary. So she's like, I know where all 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:12.720 the important don't keep us off. 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.160 That's the most important job in the lawyer's office. She 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:16.240 can find that for you. 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:19.840 And she still can apparently, so she and as she's 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:22.280 leaving the shares a little moment with Frank where she's like, 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:24.760 I know, Frank, I know you want to do the 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:26.640 right thing. Don't at like you don't want to do 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:28.000 the right thing. You want to be a good guy. 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:31.160 Don't pretend like this mister tough guy. And Frank's making 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:35.920 his like fucking instant coffee black with no no cream, 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:38.760 and he's like just says nothing as she leaves, and 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.440 then he's like to himself, be careful good, which is 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:45.160 like okay, and that's basically like marry me Karen, like 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:51.640 for Frank. Basically, then, uh, there's this really this series 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:55.120 we've talked about it before is so silly in ways 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:59.800 that I find really entertaining. I thinks like a come 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:03.960 feels exactly like a collar book. Everything we've just described 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:07.240 is like silly in that way. And it continues. We 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:10.760 get a great scene where Daniel and Buck go and 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:14.640 shake down the city council with you know, young Gandalfini 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:17.520 basically playing like our version of his dad was like, hey, yeah, 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:23.160 he just do Yeah, yeah, hey, you're I'm talking about 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:26.959 the real estate investments in Kip Bay. kIPS Bay fifteen 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:30.320 million dollars is pretty good, you know, pretty I think 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:33.000 you might want to cut the you might want to 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:35.000 cut the mayor in on that. You know what I'm saying, 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.240 Let's get a you know, I'll have my people be 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.760 in touch. Well, cut us in on that. You know 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:40.800 what I'm saying, Okay, get. 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:41.120 Out of here. 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:47.400 Outside again, it's the powers out. So it's things are 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:52.360 devolving into some looting and tops meanwhile, or just shooting 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:56.120 the looters and then and then taking like their turtlenecks 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:59.879 and like pulling the turtleneck like over the face, the nose, 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:04.359 mouth and being like, hey, a mask vigile anthea. Yeah, 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:09.400 Matt and Karen go to the storage facility and they're 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:12.840 going down memory lane digging in these dusty crates. Karen 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:17.679 finds the thing that foggy and fat and this is 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:23.439 this is like national treasure level. This is so funny 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:27.080 and silly to be. It's the original like eighteen forties 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:31.359 deed to the fun to the Port of red Hook, 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:35.840 apparently the only copy in existence that no one knows about. 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:39.840 It's impossible by any other means to find out the 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:42.000 legal status of the Port of Red Hook, and. 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:44.639 Which is hilarious because you could definitely just google that 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:46.040 without I have done it. 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:50.639 Without this piece of parchment, is impossible to unlock the 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:56.440 mystery subably on. Yeah. So what this document says is 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:59.639 the port is actually not under New York State or 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:03.480 in you York City's jurisdiction. It's like free land. It's 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:07.080 a free territory, and so whoever controls it like can 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:12.240 make the laws. It's like true, it's sovereign territory. It's 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:16.160 basically like what we discovered is Fisk plans to basically 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:18.040 set up Madpor. 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:20.200 In New York City, exactly. 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:22.480 In Red Hook. That's gonna be like personal kingdom. And 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:24.600 like the US Governor just be like, I don't know, get. 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:26.560 Legally, we can't do this. 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:32.080 This parchment, this parchment says and I'm sorry, guys, so hilarious. 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:35.639 I love this. I also love there's like something I 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:36.000 don't know. 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:41.560 I mean, I love it because it is also a book. 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:43.040 But there's also. 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:46.040 Something about this notion of the ports and these ideas 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:47.920 of like what comes in and out of them. Yeah, 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:50.400 like living I live by the ports of la there's 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:51.280 always some kind of. 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:52.440 Corruption and scandal. 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:55.959 And I just love that this like very what seems 0:19:56.000 --> 0:20:00.400 like a very niche plot is actually like really real 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:03.400 if you live by a port. But obviously the parchment 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:06.280 saying that you could just start madropor that not real. Guys, 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:08.680 sorry to tell you that. But I love fisks plan. 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:12.560 He's deranged. I love how he's bought Vanessa into it 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:13.640 by basically being. 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:16.320 Like, hey, you already did the great work. Now let's 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:17.160 just build on it. 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:20.000 Like behind every man is a strong, powerful, corrupt woman 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:23.399 named Vanessa. So I love this and I love that 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:26.000 little mini Madriport plan, Like why not if you can 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:26.600 just plan? 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:28.879 Yeah, sure, love that for you guys. 0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:49.119 Yeah, Frank is in his layer and he hears on 0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:51.280 the police scanner that the task force is heading to 0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:55.360 Red Hook like in force. So he's like, oh, time 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:57.960 to kill some dirty cops. He gets geared up and 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:01.560 he gets over there and he does his thing. He's 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:03.960 like cutting guys throats, he's shooting guys. But in the 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:07.280 end there's there's simply too many of them. The task 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:09.280 forse is a lot bigger in just a couple of 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:12.640 days than we ever than we expected. And they dog 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:14.879 pile him and then they don't kill him. They just 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:15.640 take him prisoner. 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:19.800 Stupid plan, by the way, I get it. It's kill it, 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:23.639 you can't kill him. And also as well, it's like 0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:26.439 casting body armor, because this is still some of the 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:29.560 best casting in the whole of the MCU Ben Thalla 0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:32.359 as Punisher, So yeah, I thought that was really funny. 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:34.760 I think, and this is something I'm sure Joe will 0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:36.879 touch on when when she joins us. But like I 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:40.040 do think, like there's something there where. When this happened, 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:41.640 I was like, well, maybe the reason they don't kill 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:44.280 him is because, like they fucking love the punisher like 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:47.800 they want to they do I love and they have 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:50.280 the body armor and everything. But I don't know whether 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:53.000 that gets extrapolated enough for me to say that's definitely 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:53.959