1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Covino and Rich Podcast. 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch us live every weekday from five 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: to seven Eastern to the four Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 3: Find your local station for Covino Rich at Foxsports Radio 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 3: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app. 7 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: It's like searching FSR. 8 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: How can you stop talking about quarterbacks? It's the topic 9 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: of discussion over the last twenty four to forty eight 10 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: hours thanks to Mike Sando's annual rankings of NFL quarterbacks 11 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: as he spoke with fifty head coaches and executives throughout 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: the NFL getting his rankings done. 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 4: For the athletic we'll break that down. 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: It's been a topic of conversation yesterday and a topic 15 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: of conversation today. Curious on your thoughts, Kerry, as a 16 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 1: former NFL All Pro on how these rankings set up. 17 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: I'm a big fantasy football guy. Have the I Want 18 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: Your Flex podcast with Mike Harmon, So my mind always 19 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: drifts to fantasy in all of this, and I try 20 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: to separate it because when you're preparing for a fantasy 21 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: draft or a dynasty draft, like Bo Benz and our 22 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: executive producer is doing right now. Sometimes your rankings you 23 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: start to think fantasy football, but that's not what this 24 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: is all about. And I think there's a little bit 25 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: that is causing confusion when we're talking about the rankings 26 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks. So I want to dive into that. 27 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: Plus I think there's another there's a there's an overreaching 28 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: theme with all of this that these head coaches and 29 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: executives who make these rankings, I'm not sure they realized. 30 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: I do want to start with this because yesterday Mancie 31 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: Belanios and myself we're in and we're talking about the 32 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: debut of Shador Sanders, and I made a comment that 33 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: what happened on Friday night with the Carolina Panthers in 34 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,279 Speaker 1: that game against the Carolina Panthers, more specifically, what happened 35 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: before and after the game was the reason why Shador 36 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: was a fifth round pick. And I'm curious on your 37 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: thoughts because it's gone around on social media ninety nine 38 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: point nine percent negative towards me. But they're personal attacks 39 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: and shots not necessarily at what the point that I 40 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: was making in the video and the whole draft process 41 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: was with Shador was one that captivated us, not just 42 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: the three days where he wasn't drafted Carrie, but it 43 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: was also throughout the process in February and March, in 44 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: April hearing words about how he's interviewing or not interviewing 45 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: well with certain teams, some even saying that he had 46 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: a confrontation with one of the NFL teams, like those 47 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: were all things that came out in addition to Shador 48 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: having his own song that he ended up playing in 49 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: walking into the stadium in his first preseason game. Ever, 50 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: that's the stuff that I'm talking about, and I want 51 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: Shador Sanders to succeed, and he succeeded on the field 52 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: Friday night. And I think that the talent has always 53 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: been there. We saw it at Colorado, and now there's 54 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: things that he did at Colorado that Miles Garrett even 55 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 1: said on the sidelines, like You're not gonna get away 56 00:02:58,400 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: with that in the NFL. You're not gonna get away 57 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: with that. If I'm the defensive end, you're gonna have 58 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: to tighten up the scrambling and stuff. And that's all 59 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: part of the growing process. It should be, because he's 60 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: hardly gotten any practice reps, you know, with the ones 61 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: and twos so far, in the first couple of weeks 62 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: of training camp. But he went out, was great on 63 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: third down, was great on the blitz through two touchdown passes, 64 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: and was great on the field. And I think throughout 65 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: the whole process of Chaudere falling in the draft, we 66 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: wanted to pick apart his game, make a reason this 67 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: is why, because he doesn't throw this well, or he 68 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: doesn't throw that well, or maybe he's not big enough 69 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: or is We're trying to find all these excuses. And 70 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: my whole point is this is the NFL people are 71 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: uptight in how they do things front offices, general managers. 72 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: They don't want to leave anything the chance and all 73 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: of the outside noise that can be brought in that 74 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: they can't control. 75 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 4: Yep. 76 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: I think they shy away from so all of that 77 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: stuff that Shador was doing before and then even after 78 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 1: the game, and there's more clarification on what happened after 79 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: the game. That's what I'm talking about. That's what teams 80 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: are saying. I don't want to risk that. I don't 81 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: want that in our building. I'm not comfortable with having 82 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: someone having their own film crew here. I don't want 83 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: that into my organization. He's not on the draft board. 84 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: Some teams took him off the draft board because he 85 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: was arguing in their interviews. That's what was reported. But 86 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: that's what That's the point that I was getting at. 87 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: It's not a personal attack on should or Sanders. It's 88 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: just more of the reality of the NFL. And I 89 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: do think that Shador does need to realize that. And 90 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: I said, I don't want him to be humbled. I 91 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: just want him to be humble. And I'm curious, from 92 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: your perspective as a former player, to have a fifth 93 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: round pick walk into a stadium, even if it was 94 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: cleared by the team, with his own background music walking in, 95 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: I would feel that that would be a little strange. 96 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: I'm not a former player, I'm not in that locker room, 97 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: so maybe I'm not qualified to answer that question. I 98 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: think you are as an all pro. How do you 99 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: take what should or did before the game and afterwards? 100 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 5: First thing, first, Dan, if you're going to run, I 101 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 5: need you to get your disapproval rating down a little bit. 102 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 4: That's number on social media, that's number one. 103 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 5: But again, you hit something on the head really in 104 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 5: what you said in your statement. Right, if you're not 105 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 5: going to if you're not the guy and you're a 106 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 5: backup guy. You're a guy that you know teams are 107 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 5: thinking about taking a risk on or thinking about taking 108 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 5: you want to you want to towd that company line 109 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 5: down the middle. You don't want to bring any outside 110 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 5: noise from your personal life to this situation. So that 111 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 5: means whether it's playing a boombox come into the game, 112 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 5: or having a speeding ticket, or any outside noise that 113 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 5: that accompanies you as anything else but the player on 114 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 5: the field. You don't want that at all. Number Two, 115 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 5: when you walk into a new NFL locker room, like, 116 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 5: you have to be humble. If you're not humble, you 117 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 5: will be humbled right away. And I'll just speak from 118 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 5: my own experience right me coming in I was a 119 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 5: fourth round guy. He was a fifth round guy I was. 120 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 5: I felt very highly of myself as well. I knew 121 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 5: if I got in any situation, I would show that 122 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 5: I could play. I came in parked at camp the 123 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 5: first day, all of us, the vets and everybody came 124 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 5: in and I had a range rover. 125 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 4: Right, you don't think anything about it. It's just it's 126 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 4: I didn't think it's a range rover. 127 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 5: It's a car. It's my first one, you know. I 128 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 5: went from an intrepid to a range. 129 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, treat yourself that, right. 130 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 5: I pulled up in the in and park. I parked 131 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 5: by Curtis Martin. Curtis Martin looked at me and said, man, 132 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:40,559 Speaker 5: the rookies got money. 133 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 4: The rookies. 134 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 5: The rookies really flashy, like you know, like just that 135 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 5: initial response to just seeing a car, that's just a car. 136 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 4: So if you're coming in with the. 137 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 5: Cars, the chains, the jury already feeling like you belong 138 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 5: and you've achieved something, you will get humbled. And I 139 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 5: so I don't know if he's gotten humble from his 140 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 5: teammate Chet, but that's a part of the journey. Like 141 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 5: you come in there. And once Curtis told me that 142 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 5: I literally didn't bring the range over back for a while. 143 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 5: I wanted to earn my stripes. And like I took 144 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 5: that that. I took those words to heed, right, Like 145 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 5: I took it at heed, and I was like, Okay, 146 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 5: I get it. It's not about the flash. It's not 147 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 5: about me being a pro now, it's about me earning 148 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 5: my stripes. My comments or my words of advice to 149 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 5: shudor would be just that we know you have all 150 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 5: the other things. We know you've made money already prior 151 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 5: to this, and it's a little different than us because 152 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 5: right college guys are making money. 153 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 4: Now, so you can't really hide it. 154 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 5: Yes, but just going to that situation knowing that he 155 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 5: should be aware of that from his dad. And so 156 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 5: I agree with you. If you're gonna have all these 157 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 5: other things outside of your game, that's going to be 158 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 5: the thing that speaks the loudest for you. You're doing it 159 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 5: all wrong. And so I agree with what you said. 160 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: I think that there's it's such an interesting conversation and 161 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: you're in a situation where I'm sure the dealer is like, wait, 162 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: you want to trade this back for the Intrepid. 163 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 4: It's just doesn't make sense. 164 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 5: Oh, Dan Tramp got me some good, some good, some 165 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 5: good days with Dan Trepid. 166 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: It's I got, I got comments. And again it's funny 167 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: because everybody wanted to deal with everything around for what 168 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: I was saying, not the actual point of that was 169 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: that's not appealing to NFL teams. They don't want distractions, 170 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: they don't want hard knocks. And that is because and 171 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: now it's so softened, it's not even good like the 172 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: episode with the Bills last week, and there's going to 173 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: be a new one tonight. Didn't even talk about James 174 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: Cook's contract situation. It's actually the biggest story in Buffalo. 175 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: And instead we have Tredevious White going to ice cream 176 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: stores and Dion Dawkins going to auto places where he's 177 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: drifting his car with his kids like it's a complete 178 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: puff piece, and NFL teams don't even want those cameras around. 179 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: So so that's what I'm talking about of just of 180 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: of the control. The NFL is just control freaks, and 181 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: they have an individual wanting to do his own thing. 182 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: I think teams were put off by that. I don't 183 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: think he was on certain draft boards, so what limits 184 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: the pool? And you're going so when I say that, 185 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: this is why he was drafted in the fifth round, 186 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. Now, there's some clarification about 187 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: the interview that he did with Tony Grossy, who's covered 188 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: Cleveland sports for decades, and Tony admitted on ESPN Cleveland 189 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: Today saying, you know what I appreciated about Shador is 190 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: he didn't call me out on the podium of the 191 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: press conference where he goes, I've had other quarterbacks do that, 192 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: and Schador didn't do that. And Grossy also said I 193 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: went up to Shador, which is something that I wasn't 194 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: sure on how the interaction was. What Grosy said he 195 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: didn't appreciate or didn't love was he didn't know he 196 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: was being recorded and that he was being filmed and 197 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: that their conversation was being recorded. And he said, I 198 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: don't and I'm paraphrasing. He just would have liked to 199 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: have known. And there wasn't much of Grosy that was 200 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: picked up, but it was Shador's family member, someone a 201 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: part of his team that was recording him. After the 202 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: game with that, and gross admitted that I'll be more 203 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: careful with my words the next time because I just 204 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: wasn't aware of that. But that was like my whole 205 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: thing of like that interaction ended up being caught. Now, 206 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: it wasn't Schador setting it up. It's a little bit 207 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: different than I thought, but it is still the fact 208 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: that one person didn't know that they were being recorded, 209 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: and luckily something bigger didn't come from it. Yes, somebody 210 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: said something that maybe they shouldn't have said, not knowing 211 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: that they were being recorded, and was put out like 212 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: they're just there are domino effects, but it's not meant 213 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: to be a major in diamond. That's I'm actually surprised 214 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: that on how it took off because there's nothing, there's 215 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: zero about race about it and people saying, I wonder 216 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: what his thoughts were about Johnny Manziel. Johnny Manziel would 217 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: even admit, and I think we all admit, admit that 218 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: Johnny Football took down Johnny Manziel. The name and the 219 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: star power of being Johnny Football was his own demise 220 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: and that and by the way, hey, what Johnny Manziel 221 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: was doing is not even compared to what Chadors is doing. 222 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: Manzel was doing things much worse. He was showing up hungover, 223 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: still drunk, right flying out to Vegas doing that that stuff. 224 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: Chador has done none of that except to get a 225 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: couple of speeding tickets. Yeah, like that's that's what it's 226 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: been so far. So he hasn't done any of that stuff. 227 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: It's it's not a it's not about a what is 228 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, what about ism? What about them? What about this? 229 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: What about that? Has nothing to do But I will say, 230 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: if you want to bring up Johnny Manziel, I'd say 231 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: say the same thing, Johnny. Football is not what you 232 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: need when you're entering the NFL. And I'll tell you, 233 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: at least Manzell had the caveat of being a first 234 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: round pick. Now, the Browns may have been stupid enough 235 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: to do it where you're like, let's bring them in 236 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: he'll be our first round pick and hand them the 237 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: keys to this and that. But being a fifth rounder 238 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: makes it even more difficult, I think for players to accept. 239 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 5: And that's the part, Right, you're going to have a 240 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 5: little bit more of a cushion to do that thing. 241 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,599 Speaker 5: If you were there first round pick. If you're the 242 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 5: fifth round pick, they're not expecting you to come in 243 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 5: and compete and be that starter anyway. Now, if you do, 244 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 5: that's greaty, but there's no expectations for that. So the 245 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 5: bandwidth that they have for all the other extracurricular they 246 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 5: just don't have to deal with it. 247 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: I just it was funny, and I just felt the 248 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: need to at least respond to it because the comments 249 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: were they're just personal attacks and called the hater and 250 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: other things. But I'm gonna admit something that that I 251 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: don't think i've ever admitted on the show, and I 252 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: don't think I've ever admitted it in the face of 253 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: Rich Davis. 254 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 4: Let's go Dan. 255 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: I actually think what the forty nine ers do with 256 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: the boombox is kind of cool. Okay, I hate the 257 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. As a Seahawks fan, I despise the 258 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: forty nine ers, and I've got my feelings about you know, 259 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: Trent Williams, and I don't know what's going to happen now. 260 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: The debo is a member of the commanders on what 261 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna do with their boombox. But it's one of 262 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: those things where you're just like, Okay, that's kind of neat. 263 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: You know, the team gets behind it. They come out 264 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: there and that's the deal. That's the team. And people 265 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: point out, well, it was his teammate that allowed him 266 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: to carry the speaker and the team got the okay 267 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: from it. That doesn't matter because it's the perception of 268 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: what's going on. I can tell you that Shador got 269 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: the okay for it. I could tell you that it 270 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: was a another Browns player that was carrying the speaker. 271 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: Granted it did have Shador's own song on there. I 272 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: don't think Deebo Samuel was playing his song or Trent 273 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: Williams was playing his song. It's more of a team thing, 274 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: but it's also perception is the problem, and perception is reality. 275 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 5: And Dan even that it's not apples to oranges. So 276 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 5: Dor Sanders is a rookie, sure it doesn't matter. Like 277 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 5: Deebo Semia was a Pro Bowl receiver, Trent Williams is 278 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 5: a Hall of Fame, Yes, lineman, like these are people 279 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 5: that have put in the dues if they want to 280 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 5: listen to a speaker, and it's okay with the coaches, 281 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 5: perfectly fine in that situation, which Shador obviously, I'm sure 282 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 5: he got the okay because we haven't heard anything else 283 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 5: about it. No fallout, but it's still the optics. You're 284 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 5: a rookie quarterback, quarterback, the leader of your team. Like 285 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 5: lead that to somebody else. In my opinion, yes, I. 286 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: Leave it for a few years down the line if 287 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: you want to have some And I think the pushback 288 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: to be was, well, that's not who I always I'm 289 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: staying true to myself because that's who I've always been. 290 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: Like I did it on the first preseason game, and 291 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to do it, you know in the super 292 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: Bowl like that would be the argument to support something 293 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: like that, And I just the point was, that's fine 294 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: if that's what you're bringing, and that's what you're going 295 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: to bring to the NFL. However, don't be surprised if 296 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: some people don't like that. They don't want that in 297 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: their building. And that's the point of why I think 298 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: he fell to the fifth round at that point. Now, 299 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: the Browns may have gotten the steel of the draft 300 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: maybe who knows, and it could work out and if 301 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: it does, awesome, and Chador will have the last laugh. 302 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: But there's a reason why melk Yer had him so 303 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: high and others had him so high, and he didn't 304 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: go round one, and he didn't go round two, and 305 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: he didn't go round three, and it wasn't until round 306 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: five in day three that his name went off the board. 307 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: The talent was there. I would even say, Carrie, the 308 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: pedigree has been on his side, right, like I mean, 309 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: his dad's Deon Sanders, right, So you know that there's 310 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: something there, and it's not a nepotism thing, whether he 311 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: thought his numbers should be retired or not. At Colorado, 312 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: he did put up great numbers. They did throw the 313 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: football around and they won football games. They made it 314 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: to an Alimo bole like those are those are things 315 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: that Colorado football hadn't done a lot of in recent years, 316 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: and they changed in a round. So that's always been there. 317 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: But just the fact again of why he dropped so far, 318 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: it's because of those meetings. It's because of all the 319 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: extra stuff. They don't the NFL doesn't want distractions. 320 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, we know what the kid can play. I just 321 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 5: want him to just just calm just calm down on. 322 00:15:58,560 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 4: The other things. 323 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 5: One hundred percent agree with what you'll take in what 324 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 5: you're saying about that instant in that instance. 325 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: So that's that's what I feel. Hit him out back, 326 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: Kerry twenty five Roads. 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I don't take back anything 367 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: I said yesterday. I don't think anything I said was 368 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: out of line at all. I stand by it and 369 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: Shouldhow Sanders is going to be the story of this 370 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: NFL preseason, Yeah, I don't think that there's any doubt 371 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: that he is on an NFL roster, which after that 372 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: performance on Friday night, because if the Browns don't have 373 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: a use for him, one other team in the NFL 374 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: is now going to at least perk up after watching 375 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: their quarterbacks in camp, and maybe we'll say, all right, 376 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: all right, we'll deal with some of the stuff. Maybe 377 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: even one in Dallas who knows there you go. You 378 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: never know. Yeah, he carry up at Carry twenty five Roads. 379 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. Let's 380 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: go to Isaac Low and Cron for the latest on 381 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: this Tuesday is quarterbacking news in the NFL and so 382 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: much more. 383 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 3: Oh. 384 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 2: Yes, very very busy day across the board. In college football, 385 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 2: Oklahoma quarterback John Mattei issued a statement in which he 386 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 2: denied involvement in gambling after screenshots emerged yesterday on social 387 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 2: media in which transactions on his Venmo account were labeled 388 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 2: sports gambling. 389 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to this, by the way, our own 390 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: version coming up in about twenty minutes or so. I 391 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: do want to talk about the tears, but there is 392 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: something to the Venmo message that we have to dive into. 393 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 2: Oh the possibilities are literally endless in that situation. As 394 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: statement read, my Venmo descriptions did not accurately portray the transactions, 395 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 2: but were instead inside jokes between me and my friends. 396 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 4: Unquote. 397 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings announced receiver Rondale Moore suffered a season ending 398 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 2: left knee injury, and Saturday's preseason game against Houston, Green 399 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 2: Bay Packers quarterback Jordan Love having surgery today to repair 400 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 2: a ligament injury to his left thumb that is expected 401 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 2: to be ready for the regular season opener. Rams quarterback 402 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford did not practice again today as he continues 403 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: to recover from a back injury. The Washington Post reported 404 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,479 Speaker 2: that the NFL will appeal Monday's ruling by the Nevada 405 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 2: Supreme Court that John Gruden's lawsuit against the NFL cannot 406 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: be settled in arbitration but cam go to trial, and 407 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 2: in the last few moments, Gruden himself has issued a 408 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 2: statement to ESPN saying, quote, I'm looking forward to having 409 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: the truth come out, and I want to make sure 410 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 2: what happened to me doesn't happen to anyone else. What 411 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 2: happened wasn't right, and I'm glad the court didn't let 412 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: the NFL cover it up, unquote. Finally, with the beloved 413 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: studio show Inside the NBA moving from TNT to ESPN 414 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 2: this year, Sports Media Watch reported that this season's premiere 415 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 2: episode of Inside the NBA will run for just half 416 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 2: an hour. It had previously been about an hour show 417 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 2: from twelve oh five am to twelve thirty five am 418 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 2: Eastern time on October twenty second after that, the show 419 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 2: will not air for another two months until Christmas. 420 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 4: Back to you guys, Oh wow, wow, I will say this. 421 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: That's another way that you knew that show was so 422 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: good is I would have no idea how long it 423 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: would actually air. 424 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 425 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: Right, you wouldn't know, like because the game time would 426 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: air and it wouldn't end like right at the top 427 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: of the hour, So you wouldn't know if you had 428 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: a full hour. It may end at ten after but 429 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: maybe they'll go to the top of the hour. Maybe 430 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: they'll do fifteen minutes, thirty minutes, I don't know, hour 431 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: and a half. But you just kept out watching because 432 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: they had more to give you. 433 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 5: Man, see, ESPN's already destroyed. I said it. I said it, yep. 434 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 4: I had thought. 435 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: My whole take was that the NBA didn't want TNT 436 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: back in because I feel I was actually at a 437 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: detriment to ESPN because of how good TNT was. And 438 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: then a lot of the conversation last year wasn't how 439 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: much THETNT crew kind of crapped on the NBA, and 440 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: then that made it worse for the other broadcast partner, 441 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,479 Speaker 1: especially the one with the biggest stake in it. So 442 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: now both NBC and ABC ESPN now will be lifting 443 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: up the NBA instead of maybe having TNT weighing it down, 444 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: or they won't be weighing it down until Christmas time 445 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: apparently after that premiere episode. Hey, today's show of Cavino 446 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: and Rich is brought to you by ty Iraq. For 447 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: over forty years, Tyraq has been helping customers by the 448 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: right tires for how, what and where they drive. Ship 449 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: fast and free back by free Road has a protection 450 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: with convenient installation options like mobile tire installation tierraq dot 451 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: Com the way tire buying should be. I felt when 452 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: the quarterback tiers were released by Mike Sando of The 453 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: Athletic yesterday Carrie Rhoades that there was just so much 454 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: attention drawn to the top of the rankings. What drew 455 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: your attention as a former player when you see that 456 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: the fifty coaches at executives thought that there are five 457 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: top Tier one players in the NFL or quarterbacks in 458 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: the NFL. 459 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 5: Well, there's only four, and that's my first thought. But 460 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 5: also the unanimous situation with Patrick Mahomes that one was 461 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 5: obviously interesting as well, because I don't think that's true either, 462 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 5: But I mean those were the things that stood out immediately. 463 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 4: There's other things. 464 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: But even because Mahomes is taking a step back these 465 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: last couple of seasons, despite appearing in super Bowls and 466 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: winning one. 467 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 5: I'd rather say the other three have gotten better than 468 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 5: he's taking. 469 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: The stair enough, fair enough, Josh Allen's got an MVP. 470 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: We know that Lamar has two of them. Mahomes has 471 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: the rings, something that josh Al Lamar Jackson, and Joe 472 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: Burrow are are going after. And it was Mahomes and 473 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: Burrow who were actually tied for one in the top tier. 474 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: The definitions of these tiers is important. 475 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 4: Tier one. 476 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: This is Tier one a Tier one quarterback and carry 477 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: his team each week. The team wins because of him. 478 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: He expertly handles pere passing situations. He has no real 479 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,959 Speaker 1: holes in his game. I think that there should be 480 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: something added to that. What's that is that the quarterback 481 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: has to be somewhat mobile. You have to move in 482 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: today's NFL, and I think that most of these guys do. Yes, 483 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, Stafford definitely is not moving right now. 484 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: If he is, it's in street clothes. But I think 485 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: that that is a portion of it, and it's just 486 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: you have to You really can't be a statue anymore. 487 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: You have to have at least some mobility. And it's 488 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: not to be a factor in the running game. You 489 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: just have to move so you don't get killed. Yes, 490 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: so I think that that should be added to tier one. 491 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: It wasn't, and maybe that's why Matthew Stafford was able 492 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: to creep in Tier two. A Tier two quarterback, he 493 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 1: carry his team sometimes but not as consistently. He can 494 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: handle pure passing situations in doses, and or possesses other 495 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: dimensions that are special enough to elevate him above tier three. 496 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: He has a hole or two in his game, so there, 497 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: if you're gonna include it in tier two, it should 498 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: be included in tier one. 499 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 4: Yes. 500 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: And now Jaden Daniels was the first quarterback. He was 501 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: the highest rated second year quarterback because again we don't 502 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: have we don't have tape on the rookies coming in, 503 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: so it's difficult to give a ranking when you haven't 504 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: seen a guy play. So this is Jayden Daniels's debut 505 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: in this list, and he's the highest that they've ever 506 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: had debut at number six, not shocking to see Daniels 507 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: in that Tier two on that next level list where 508 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: you shocked that he was considered the best of the 509 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: tier two quarterbacks. 510 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, he still has some work to do. Obviously, 511 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 5: what he did in year one was amazing, remarkable, all 512 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 5: the things. I agree with most of the fervor surrounding 513 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 5: his name, But I'm not putting him above C. J. 514 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 4: Stroud, Jared Golf or it hurts right now. Now. 515 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 5: That doesn't mean he isn't better than him, but he's 516 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 5: only playing one season. Defense is going to catch up 517 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,959 Speaker 5: and he's going to have to do other things than 518 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 5: beat man and man coverage because they're running the red 519 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 5: play and he's getting the one read and he's getting 520 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 5: it out like teams are going to change that, and 521 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 5: so I want to see what happens in year two 522 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 5: for him. 523 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 4: First. 524 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: Here's my problem with the Jayde Daniels ranking is that 525 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,239 Speaker 1: you have Lamar Jackson at four, who had one of 526 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: the greatest passing seasons statistically that we've ever seen in 527 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: the NFL. It's two MVP awards, and when you go 528 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: to this rankings, and maybe it's because it's kind of 529 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: on a curve, because we're just taking the quarterbacks that 530 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: are eligible. But he's just two spots ahead of Jaden Daniels. 531 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: And this is. 532 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson's debut on Tier one. Yeah yeah, like six 533 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 5: how many years this Lamar been the league? Yeah enough, 534 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 5: he's spending enough. 535 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 4: Is it birth time? Yes? 536 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: And so that is so it's it's that little thing 537 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: like Fantasy football wise, Jadon Daniels is up there. 538 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 4: I'm looking at the rankings. That's where you're gonna put him. 539 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: Mahomes wouldn't be Mahomes wouldn't be in that top tier. 540 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: Alan Jackson, Burrow and Jayden Daniels are your top guy 541 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: and Jalen Hurts because of what he does on the ground. Yeah, 542 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: but Jalen Hurts is a part of this conversation because 543 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: now when you're looking at these tiers and it's spot 544 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: after spot after spot after spot, it goes from six 545 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: all the way down to fourteen. The quarterbacks that are 546 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 1: on the second tier are Jaden Daniels, Justin Herbert, Jared Goff, CJ. Stroud, 547 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,719 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, Baker Mayfield, Dak Prescott, Jordan Love, and Brock Purty. 548 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: So that's nine quarterbacks. Then Carrie my biggest problem, and 549 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: it's not that rock Perty is fourteen or Dak is twelve, 550 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: and yeah, Jalen Hurts is tied for ninth and c. J. 551 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 1: Stroud's tied for ninth even though he only has had 552 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: the one great season and last year took a step back. Yeah, 553 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: none of that matters to me. What I find interesting 554 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: about these tiers, again done by coaches and executives, is 555 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: that you had nine players in that tier two, then 556 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: in tier three you had eleven quarterbacks in tier three? 557 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: Is this this is the definition that the athletic use 558 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: for tier three. A Tier three quarterback is a legitimate starter, 559 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: but needs a heavier running game or a defensive component 560 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: to win. A lower volume dropback passing offense suits him best. 561 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: Pretty specific there. But now if you take tiers two 562 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: and three, that's twenty quarterbacks in the National Football League. Yeah, 563 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: that's two thirds of the league. Is good to good? 564 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. Great. 565 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 1: If you want to say tier two is great, that's fine. 566 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: It seems like it's a bit of a stretch. But 567 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: it just feels that when I'm looking at the NFL 568 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: now and a guy like Dak Prescott's getting sixty million dollars. 569 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: Rock Perty just got who's his new deal in the 570 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: fifty million reigns with the forty nine ers, and he's 571 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: fourteenth on the list. Jordan loves a fifty five million 572 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: dollar quarterback? Who's heart again? As you heard Isaac Lohenkron, 573 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: Why are we paying all of these quarterbacks if two 574 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: thirds of them in the league are basically the same guy? 575 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: And I and I'm not saying that Jayden Daniels and 576 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins are the same guy, because Jaden Daniels is 577 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: the top of Tier two and Kirk Cousins is the 578 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: bottom of Tier three, but Bryce Young and Caleb Williams 579 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: are at the bottom of tier three. What this tells 580 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: me is, for some reason, these executives and dead coaches 581 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: are just getting smitten and feel they have nowhere to 582 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: turn but to just pay quarterbacks money. If two thirds 583 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks in the National Football League are essentially 584 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: in the same boats, then why are we paying them 585 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: this absurd amount of money. I would rather pay a 586 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: Tier three or Tier four guy a lot less to 587 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: be able to fill out the team around him than 588 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: to pay someone or overpay someone, especially in Dallas's case 589 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: with Dak getting sixty million dollars a year, like, no 590 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: wonder some of these teams are in the problems that 591 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: they're having because of what they've paid their quarterback. 592 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 4: That's a great point. 593 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 5: But I'll tell you why that's happening, right So that's 594 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 5: because Dak is Tier two right here today at number twelve. 595 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 4: The year he got. 596 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 5: Paid, he was he was having an MVP type of season. 597 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 5: Well I think the year before that he got paid 598 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 5: the year after I think or end the year, but 599 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 5: he had that thing happen right there at that moment 600 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 5: where he played a little bit above a Tier two guy. 601 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 5: So that kind of would be his situation. A guy 602 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 5: like Brock Purdy, he just got paid. They don't have 603 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 5: any other option there. I mean, he played well, he 604 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 5: led them to the NFC Championship game, like there is 605 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 5: some I guess some some fervor there with him as well. 606 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 5: So I think these situations only because they'll come into 607 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 5: this year specifically, we're talking about it now, but these 608 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 5: guys could have had stronger season the year before or 609 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 5: something like that. 610 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: This is what I'll say to Dak because I'm not 611 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: talking about the sixty million dollars years I'm talking about 612 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: the now I'm going to talk about the previous contract 613 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: because it was the exact opposite with Dak that broke 614 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: his leg. 615 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 4: He did yep, and the Cowboys are still like, yep, 616 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 4: we'll pay you. 617 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: That's true because they had to your point, they had 618 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: nowhere to goe if some of these teams started to 619 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: be like like the Seahawks with Gino Smith. The Seahawks 620 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: traded Gino Smith because they felt that he was going 621 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: to want more money, and he said that he wanted 622 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: more money. True, fine, so we'll trade you and we'll 623 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: sign I'm Sam Donald for less. Sam Donald is tied 624 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: for twentieth. Guess who's nineteenth, Geno Smith? Geno Smith. That 625 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: seems like a pretty smart deal by the Seahawks. Yes, 626 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: it does right, like as you're looking at it, like 627 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: they now they basically have the same quarterback. They just 628 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: paid less for them, and they didn't pay more for 629 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: the other guy. That's the type of thinking in the 630 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: NFL that I think that you need GMS. Now you 631 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: can draft your quarterback and there are a bunch of 632 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: young quarterbacks in this right hand column. If you're looking 633 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: on X and seeing it because you have bo Nicks. 634 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: There you have Drake May and Caleb Williams and Bryce Young. 635 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: All of those players will have the opportunity to move 636 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: themselves into the next tier. But when you're talking about 637 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: that second contract or how you're looking at moving forward, 638 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: I think that the executives and coaches, as they do 639 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,479 Speaker 1: these tiers, should recognize that, you know what, a lot 640 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: of these guys are just the same and if everybody 641 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: wasn't in the same think group, maybe there would be 642 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: more movement throughout the NFL. People are feeling like they 643 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: need to commit their money. I mean, Kyler Murray got 644 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: a new contract from the Cardinals and he had staged 645 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: his It wasn't a holdout, but it was the week 646 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl between the Rams and Bengals where 647 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: he scrubbed his social media of everything of the Cardinals. 648 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: It was in early February, Like, the negotiation is on, 649 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: let's begin now. 650 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 4: I want a new contract. Cardinals end up. 651 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: All right, we'll pay you. We have we can't think 652 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: outside the box. We know you've done well, and because 653 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,479 Speaker 1: nobody else can think outside the box, we're just going 654 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: to pay our contracts. That's the thing that stood out 655 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: to me. I looked at this thing for twenty minutes, Carrie, Yeah, 656 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: and then it just dawned on me, like, wow, two 657 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: thirds of the league is basically just in the middle. 658 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: Then you have the top tier guys and then the 659 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: also rams are the new kids on the block. And 660 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: he also rans are Russell Wilson, Joe Flacco, and by 661 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: the way, poor Kenny Pickett, he's thirty fourth on the list. 662 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: They had a Tier five they made for Kenny Pickett, 663 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: like like just in, you know, adding salt to the wounds, right. 664 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: But that's what stood out to me is there's a 665 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks here that are basically the same guy 666 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: with a little bit of difference, and then we're paying 667 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: them like they're rock stars. 668 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 5: So you know what you're telling me, Dan, there's a 669 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 5: lot of clueless offensive coordinators out there, That's what you're 670 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 5: telling me, Because if they're all the same, then that 671 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 5: means that you can bring in any one of these 672 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 5: guys and have them fit your system and you coast 673 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 5: them up to be a really good player. 674 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: I think that there's I think that there are assistants 675 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: that can work with guys in their system that will 676 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: do well better than others. But I don't think it's 677 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: the end all be all to sign those certain guys. So, 678 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: you know, like Sam Donald had some familiarity with Clint 679 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: Kubiak's offense, So the Seahawks bring in a new offensive coordinator. 680 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: They bring in Sam Donald at a lesser price than 681 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: Gino Smith. Like that ends up working in other spots. 682 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: You may have a previous connection. Kirk Cousins, you know, 683 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: went to Atlanta with you know, basically blind except they 684 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: gave him. 685 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 4: A he was blinded by the jack. Yeah, that's not 686 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 4: agreed by. 687 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: The Green And now you know, like now he's now, 688 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,479 Speaker 1: now he's the backup. It wasn't like any package deal 689 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: that was happening there. I just look at the list, 690 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: and you know, your your argument is well taken with 691 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: the brock Purty sort of deal. But it's funny that 692 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers were in that race, like so 693 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: many teams are now, Like before we have to pay 694 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: our quarterback. How about if teams just decided, you know what, 695 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: maybe we're not going to pay our quarterback. Maybe we'll 696 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 1: just try to play a hard ball and see where 697 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: we can go. That's what I'd like to see in 698 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: the NFL. 699 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 5: I got a question for you right now, though, out 700 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 5: of these tier three guys, who do you see taking 701 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 5: that step to tier two? Out of this list right now? 702 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 5: I have mine, but I want to see where. I 703 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 5: want to see where you're going. 704 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: And just the Tier three is Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers 705 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: to Trevor Lawrence, Gino Smith, Boonick, Sam Darnold, Drake May, 706 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: kayleb Williams, and Bryce Young and then Kirk Cousins. Cousins 707 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: not it, I would say, I think, obviously, Caleb Williams okay, 708 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: bo Nicks okay. 709 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 3: And. 710 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 1: I'll say Drake May, I'll say those three. I think 711 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: Bryce Young, that's my guy, has has the possible. You know, 712 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: that's my guy, Bryce Young. 713 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 5: Is He's gonna he is going to be a Tier 714 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 5: two guy by the end of this year. Okay, all right, 715 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 5: I'm saying that very very took the four. I took 716 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,959 Speaker 5: the four young guys. I think we know a little. 717 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: We know more about everybody else, right, but those those 718 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: four young guys. Maybe I took the easy way on 719 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: just naming everybody, but I was gonna I was gonna say, 720 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: I thought you were high on the Patriots, so I 721 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: thought it was gonna be Drake May. 722 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,479 Speaker 5: I am high on the papers, but I think they're 723 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 5: They're gonna be a surprise team. But I just think 724 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 5: Bryce Young is going on. I'll tell you what that pop. 725 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,439 Speaker 5: I think Michael Panicks Junior is going to be great 726 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 5: for the Falcons. 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Key's Carrie Rhoades, 737 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: the all pro starter from day one, finto mat Carie 738 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: twenty five Roads. You can find me at Dan Byer 739 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 1: on Fox. Thanks to Isaac Lohencron Bo Benson, and Chris 740 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: Purfet for hanging out with the iHeartRadio app. You can 741 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: stream us wherever you happen to be. 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You heard Isaac say throughout the day. 749 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 1: John Mattier of Oklahoma I had to clear his name 750 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:03,240 Speaker 1: with a statement saying that the descriptions of sports gambling, 751 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 1: USC versus UCLA and others were phonies. 752 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. 753 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: Venmo is any of those pay services, especially when you're 754 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: my age. I'm a little younger than you. Carry Like 755 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: I had buddies who never trusted pay palic when you 756 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: would do fantasy football stuff. They were the last to 757 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: get on board with like these places because they're just 758 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: like they didn't trust it. They didn't trust any of 759 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: it at all. And I think that there are some 760 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: now like me. So if I venmo something, I'm not 761 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: sure exactly what I should type. I don't know if 762 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: I should just make it universal. I think everybody just 763 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: puts a pizza slice, So no matter what you pay someone, 764 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: it's likely for food, but it can be a daunting 765 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: task for people of a certain generation. 766 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 4: Man, you're you're right. I'm so. 767 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 5: I'm one of those guys that's always late to the 768 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 5: party when it comes to technology in general, the pay services, 769 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 5: that stuff. I'm always late to that. Reluctantly, I have 770 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 5: to do it because that's how everybody's receiving payments and 771 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 5: money now. And so even my little nephew he's calling, uncle, 772 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 5: can I get money for the movies? 773 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 4: I'm like, how do I write that? 774 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 1: In? 775 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 4: What do I write? Yes? 776 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: You just you do the action thing right, Like with 777 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: that action I don't know that. What's that the board 778 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 1: that you snap, you know when you go action? 779 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I know. I can't even think right now. 780 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 5: You put me on the spot with that one. 781 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 4: I don't even know. 782 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,399 Speaker 1: Well, just just when you think that you can get 783 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: away with like some tomfoolery, Yeah, apparently you can't. 784 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 3: Both. 785 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 4: Benson is not going to name any names, name names both, No, 786 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 4: he can't. 787 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: But there is someone that you know that tried to 788 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: play the haha Venmo game and got busted. 789 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,399 Speaker 7: Yeah, we have a mutual friend. 790 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 5: Oh. 791 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 7: Here at Fox Sports Radio that was telling a story 792 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,959 Speaker 7: today that they had a friend that they they put 793 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 7: in their description when they paid them, like you know, 794 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 7: money laundering to get someone out of X location, and 795 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 7: they're the payment was flagged and they had to send 796 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,240 Speaker 7: an email to the company explaining it what they actually 797 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 7: were doing. 798 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 4: Yeah. 799 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so so bleep around and find out is all 800 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,280 Speaker 1: of your little Venmo and PayPal funny funny things along 801 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,879 Speaker 1: the way. You understand why someone of my generation may 802 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 1: not want to show directly that they may be paying 803 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: a bill to someone. Yeah, or you know, maybe a 804 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: tree trimming and whatever, but you don't want it to 805 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: be so you want to show that it's it's a tree, 806 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: but you don't want it to be so discreet that 807 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: it could be something else, or that it wouldn't be 808 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: thought of as a business, or in this case, pretend 809 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: to have a joke and then be flagged for it 810 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: because of a legal activity. 811 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,720 Speaker 5: Everything's not funny, guys. You gotta you gotta protect yourself 812 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 5: and this is. 813 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 4: All public public knowledge. Don't do it. 814 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: I would send it back. I I think that you 815 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: have the ability to. I'm not sure if you do, 816 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: but if you were to, I think so. 817 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 4: Well. 818 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 1: The other thing with this as well is the Venmo 819 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: stuff for the people that don't have it on private 820 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: or on the secret to see like what everybody's business exactly. 821 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,840 Speaker 1: I have a couple of friends who I just know 822 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: who they're they're paying soccer to, or they just never 823 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,959 Speaker 1: pay for lunch and they have to pay somebody else 824 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: because that's what it's constantly is twenty dollars again, slice 825 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: of pizza. 826 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 5: It helps It helps us Dan because we get to 827 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,959 Speaker 5: know that if we invite that friend and never paying. 828 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 4: So we've already talked about this. 829 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely, he's carryer Os. I'm Dan byer in for Cavino 830 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: and Rich who have been in for Dan Patrick. They'll 831 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: be in tomorrow morning as well. Carrie and I will 832 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: be back for the guys tomorrow as well. You're on 833 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,800 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Talk to you then you're on Fox