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Speaker 1: Well, thank you for coming on the show. We definitely

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Speaker 1: We're definitely are big, big fans. The first question we

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Speaker 1: w NBA, who's the first person to bust your ass?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 3: You know what, that was killing me because I was

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Speaker 3: You know what it always is, people try to discredit,

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Speaker 3: and you know, watching it as a fan and then

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Speaker 3: getting drafted and getting into the league, it's like everybody

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Speaker 3: everybody on the floor score twenty, score thirty. It's just

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Speaker 3: So my first game was against Ivory Ladder.

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Speaker 1: I Ladder used to get one of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, just self motivated players, you know, and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the minds get big on HER's.

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Speaker 3: I got big too, because I was like, damn, it

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Speaker 3: I struggled my rookie year. Ain't no secret. It was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, price on your head.

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Speaker 3: Now, rookies that come in and you know they highly touted,

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Speaker 3: all games. Oh yeah, she's supposed to be Okay, okay.

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Speaker 3: It was definitely a big target on my back.

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Speaker 4: Yo yo yo, Live on location, me and d Miles

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Speaker 4: here in Orlando staying I ass at home, staying safe.

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Speaker 4: Today we got a very very special guest. We got

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Speaker 4: a legendary lady from South Ben who went and Notre

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Speaker 4: Dame and put it back on the map. We got

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Speaker 4: us Mama.

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Speaker 3: Made it podcast.

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Speaker 1: Midwest Baby, South Ben. You know Midwest represented, so you

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Speaker 1: definitely definitely love that. So South Ben, and you're the

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Speaker 3: We call it the fist, right, I got my shirt

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Speaker 3: on Okay, but yeah, you know I came from South Bend, Indiana,

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Speaker 3: It was it was dope grown up. Be the oldest.

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Speaker 3: But it's cool being able to be the oldest and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but did that start your leadership to make it

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Speaker 3: They My mome from my mom really because my mom.

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Speaker 3: Really because actually in South Bend, it wasn't a lot

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's like that everywhere, but I

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Speaker 4: we always had one or two girls.

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Speaker 3: Her game. Her game probably got better off of that,

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Speaker 1: Washington High School, you came in averaging the dub, like

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Speaker 3: Like. So it was crazy because at Washington I got

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Speaker 1: Oh, I had chemistry, and.

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Speaker 3: And all my girls we all went to college on

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Speaker 3: No I didn't get to have some them fire mixtapes

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Speaker 3: with them in the background. You know what we said.

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Speaker 4: We talked about that all the time, Like you realized

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Speaker 3: If y'all would have had it back then.

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Speaker 1: Man, it's been so lovely crazy.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that's that's what kind of happened.

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Speaker 4: We had scouting services, but Bob gave in streets and Smith.

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Speaker 2: You gotta look in the magazines.

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Speaker 1: See was it a magazine in black and white too?

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Speaker 4: To tell me this, a lot of people, I mean,

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Speaker 4: We're not gonna do any commitments while we're away on

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Speaker 4: rich ohld building in the swaying. It's like I was standing,

433
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 4: I'm seventeen. I'm looking around like, oh man, like me

434
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,199
Speaker 4: and my homeboys, like you say, your girls, we all

435
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,200
Speaker 4: used to go to night camp and you we used

436
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 4: to play a little game. We'll be walking past a

437
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 4: little coaching somebody, somebody I commit, like you know what

438
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like I'm sitting there, my man, I commit, like, well,

439
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 4: I'm about to.

440
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 3: Do the Mama's like nah no, that's exciting though when

441
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 3: you never like really experienced that and then you know

442
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 3: on that level. You know what I'm saying, It's like

443
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 3: that's in college.

444
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 1: I love my college trips. I took all five of

445
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 1: my jobs. I went everywhere.

446
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 3: I took three of mine. I took three. I went

447
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 3: to Penn State because my best friend went to Penn State.

448
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 3: And then they had an adult coach who coached at

449
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,880
Speaker 3: Notre Dame coch East Washington. She's actually back in order

450
00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 3: game now with Neil. But I went there to Penn

451
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 3: State and then Notre Dame in Stanford. I went out

452
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 3: there and Stanford was one of them. Like you said,

453
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 3: you know, it was so nice. You know, that was

454
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 3: my first time. And y'all know, coming from the Midwest,

455
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 3: you know, snow and all that cold. Then you pull

456
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 3: up and then it's like the line of palm trees.

457
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 6: Palm trees.

458
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 4: Sometimes me and Western Look, look I was me and

459
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 4: West folks ain't seen them palm trees. Feel like we

460
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 4: on vacation like this, wait this every day right, this

461
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 4: this every like what.

462
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 3: I'm so, But no, it was It's cool. I love

463
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:35,439
Speaker 3: them experiences.

464
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,880
Speaker 1: Know the Dame basketball, I start liking not the Dame

465
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: basketball because I was falling Ivy. Ivy's from Saint Louis.

466
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 1: I'm from East Saint Louis. So you know, you follow

467
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 1: everybody from the hometown that actually get an opportunity to

468
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 1: play in a big college.

469
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 3: My girl, that's my girl.

470
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: But you know, and you in the conference with the Chimps,

471
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: and you got four years of this to try to

472
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: make a name for yourself, Like, how was that to

473
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: be a part of that, to basically build you? It

474
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,479
Speaker 1: built so much in you. It made you stronger as

475
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 1: a player, like, as a person everything. How was that

476
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: to just be with the name and go through the

477
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: rivalies with you?

478
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 3: It was amazing. It was amazing because you hear a

479
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 3: lot about it. Obviously, I grew up in South Bend,

480
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 3: so I would see, you know, the battles when Neielle

481
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 3: and Ruth and then would play against you know, Sue

482
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 3: and Diana. Yeah, you know when they had I mean,

483
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 3: they always had a squad. So we're seeing matchups and

484
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 3: that's the old, biggest Yeah, now you're talking about now,

485
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 3: you know, the biggest of old. When I came in,

486
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 3: like we would lose to Georgetown and Saint John's, you know,

487
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 3: DePaul Yukon, you know, always Louisville. West Virginia took it

488
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 3: old in West Virginia, Like our conference was tough, tough

489
00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 3: to get through Syracuse. I love playing and the biggiest so,

490
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 3: but you kind of obviously when I came in, Maya

491
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 3: Moore was a sophomore and Tina Charles was a junior,

492
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 3: and they was on the same team and we're talking

493
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 3: about two w n B A m v p s.

494
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 3: You know, they're playing on the same team.

495
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 6: Bless everybody else hearts.

496
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 3: And you got to play there. Oh, it was a

497
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 3: massacre my rookie year, my freshman year. I'll never forget

498
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 3: playing there. And they just i mean, they don't care.

499
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 3: They'll call you everything because you you inherited, you know,

500
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 3: the rivalry.

501
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 5: Inherit to be, you know, and so I'm like.

502
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,479
Speaker 3: What what you know? It was like it's a eye opener,

503
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 3: you know, they really and and it makes sense, you know,

504
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 3: they got the harshest environment data champions. So then the

505
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 3: next year of my sophomore year, that was when we

506
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 3: finally were able to kind of go on a run

507
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 3: and gain some momentum. And we had graduated five seniors

508
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 3: my freshman year after that, we had graduated five seniors.

509
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 3: So going into my sophomore year, we had a completely

510
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,719
Speaker 3: you know, different job. It was a completely different squad,

511
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 3: but a lot of people that were on the bench

512
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 3: the year before had the opportunity and it just so happened.

513
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 3: We just jailed. You know, we had some dogs on

514
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 3: the team, but definitely obviously coach McGrath a lot of

515
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 3: people don't know she from Philly. You know, she really

516
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 3: didn't take no shit. She had swag. She was very cerebral,

517
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 3: and she really taught me how to like study the

518
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 3: game instead of just watching the game. But her and

519
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 3: Neale obviously having Niale too, you know, who won a

520
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 3: championship at Notre Dame. Just having her coaching next to

521
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 3: me and having heard a reference those two who had

522
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 3: won before, they had the blueprint. So we went to

523
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 3: end up going to three final fours, and you know,

524
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 3: two national championship games, and obviously you know against Yukon.

525
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 3: You know, I think we had started owing something and

526
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 3: then I think I ended up breaking five hundred, I think.

527
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 3: But our matchups, you know, were always important, like they

528
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 3: were always like the Bikies Championship or the final four,

529
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 3: you know, it was always something that or like my

530
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 3: senior night triple overtime, you know, like damn, it was

531
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 3: always something at stake when.

532
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 2: We just so happened to be part of this. They're

533
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 2: gonna be part of your moment, like it ring number one.

534
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 3: And we had to go there and play them in stores,

535
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 3: nobody ever losing stores. It was my senior year and

536
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 3: we were ringing five and then we won that game.

537
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: Like it was just always something that's staked hap. Yeah,

538
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 3: when we happened to play Chether and it was you know,

539
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 3: I would love to eventually sit down with everybody and

540
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 3: you know, do a documentary about everything, because it's were

541
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 3: talking about twenty something, you know, twenty years you know,

542
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 3: with a Rique hitting her buzzer beater to winning yeah matchups,

543
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 3: and there's so many great players there in between. But

544
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 3: I got to play against the best basketball in conference

545
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 3: and in the tournament, so I wasn't complaining about that.

546
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 3: The level of competition was so high that by the

547
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 3: time we got to the tournament them first three to

548
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 3: four games playing against you k and eight other teams

549
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 3: that make the tournament in our conference. No, it was

550
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 3: ready for the tournament. So we always you know, we

551
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 3: were able to get there, get the ship. We got

552
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 3: to the ship a few times and they were never

553
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 3: able to finish it. But you know the teams that

554
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 3: we lost, we lost to Britney Grinder and I remember

555
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 3: her Baylor team. You know, they went like forty and

556
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 3: oh that year, and then Texas at and them, like

557
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 3: they had a squad too with a lot of their

558
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 3: girls going to the league. But yeah, I played against

559
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 3: the best players in college.

560
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: Like I feel like y'all got better and better every year.

561
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: And I feel like with you as your years went

562
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: by in college, and I feel like this is when

563
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: you you start to understand how to control the game

564
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: as a point guard. I've seen you start controlling the

565
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: whole game, and you could see it really in a tournament.

566
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: It was like you control it was key moments. You know,

567
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: when runs go down, you control to pay. So when

568
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: did it click for you? What year did you say

569
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 1: for you that you kind of it clicked in, Like

570
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: I can control kind of a whole game. I know

571
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: when I could be aggressive and score when I'm trying

572
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: to set this person up. So when yeah, my whole.

573
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 3: Life, I played the two like coming, I played the two.

574
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 3: I didn't play the point. I could bring it up

575
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 3: to work. I was combo guard, but I got buckets

576
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 3: from the two, you know, and hide behind that, hide

577
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 3: behind the defense and then coming and then you know,

578
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 3: you know, or whatever the case. So I had to

579
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 3: learn how to be a point guard first of all,

580
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 3: so that we had a point guard my freshman year.

581
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: But I really didn't connect with none of my seniors

582
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 3: like that, so we didn't really get a chance to

583
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 3: get as far as we probably could have, you know,

584
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 3: the chemistry. You know, it just really was hard to

585
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 3: give up the reins to a freshman, you know, and

586
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 3: so I had to learn. But you know, I had

587
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 3: to waste my time. But my sophomore year, the group

588
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 3: that I had with Kayla McBride and devro Peters and

589
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: Natalie A. Chawa, we had some pieces Natalie Novasel, Brittany Mallory,

590
00:28:54,640 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 3: like we actually went untraditional. We played four guards. So

591
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 3: we played four guards sometimes so we would had you know,

592
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 3: I had to learn how to, like I said, watch film,

593
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 3: learn how to navigate, learn what the hell time score

594
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: and possession was, how many times out we got, you

595
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. You know, I'm okay, you know,

596
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 3: but it's just like being a point guard, you got

597
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 3: to know everything. You got to know what's going on.

598
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 3: So it really challenged me, and they really challenged me,

599
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 3: Neil and Coach McGraw just really challenged me to you know,

600
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 3: step outside my comfort zone and come and try to

601
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 3: you know, trust me through the reins of the team

602
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 3: and controlling the team. So it really helped me a lot,

603
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: you know, navigating and now where I'm at being able

604
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 3: to understand certain things, you know, because of that.

605
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, how does it feel to be an Indiana

606
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: legend to stay at home and go to high school there,

607
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: and to stay at home and go to college there,

608
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: and to put your mark and your legendary status on

609
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: the on the state. How was it to what the

610
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: that mean to you to stay there and do that?

611
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 3: I get it mean everything to me. I mean, just

612
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 3: hear in Indiana legend, you know that like makes my

613
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 3: hard drop, Like I don't even see that, but it's

614
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 3: you know, it's awesome. I was just I'm a huge

615
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: family woman, you know, that's just always It's always been

616
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 3: like that. My family has always been the most important

617
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: thing to me and it still is. And so it's

618
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 3: just always been like that, and we've always supported each other.

619
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 3: And I just wanted to stay I wanted to stay home.

620
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 3: And like I said, at the time, it was so

621
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 3: many people who were saying, you know, don't go there,

622
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 3: go here? Why are you going to Notre Dame they

623
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 3: lost in the first round? Why are you going to

624
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 3: not a game? And it's just like, you know, I

625
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 3: wanted to when I left Notre Dame, I wanted to say, Okay,

626
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 3: we're back at the level that I remember it being

627
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: when they want to shit, you know, this is South Bend.

628
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 3: And so, like I said, I just had a real

629
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 3: big level of pride with that being able to first off,

630
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 3: go to Notre Dame and having that opportunity with something

631
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 3: that you know, I used to go to the camps

632
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: as kid at tend eleven twelve in the crowd, you know,

633
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 3: trying to win the one on one competition at Notre Dame.

634
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: So coach could see me, you know when she came

635
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 3: to my court, did about six in between the legs.

636
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: But you know, I was just excited about that opportunity.

637
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 3: It wasn't really a lot of you know, women that

638
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 3: looked like me that was going to Notre Dame. And

639
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: it was my opportunity to graduate college, you know, one

640
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 3: of the first in my immediate family to graduate. So

641
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: I just I saw it as something that was It

642
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 3: was just a big deal to me. It meant a

643
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 3: lot to me, and that's just how I approached it.

644
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 3: Every day I felt like I was wearing South Bend,

645
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 3: Indiana on front of my jersey. And so that's the

646
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 3: energy that I had with it, and it just it

647
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 3: wasn't like my freshman year. I hated it straight up.

648
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 3: I was just like, man, do I want this? It's

649
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 3: like is my mom gonna be checking on me? I

650
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: don't want? Like, am I gonna have freedom? And you know,

651
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 3: I just really embraced my experience and I'm really blessed to,

652
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 3: like I said, have the resources that I did at

653
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 3: Notre Dame to really help me blossom into the Hooper

654
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 3: that I am today. You know, everything that ended up

655
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: happening on my path just by choosing that university and

656
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: then obviously being able to say, you know, I graduated

657
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 3: from there and everything that comes with that. So it

658
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 3: was it's definitely a full circle experience. I met my

659
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 3: husband there, you know, it's just like I met my

660
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: husband at know today. You know, it's just or you know,

661
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 3: it's it's it's so many experiences I have and I

662
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 3: know I'll forever be affiliated and it's nothing wrong with

663
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: that because that's that's genuine and that really is.

664
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you decided to stay because now your name

665
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: is mentioned with the Larry Birds, the muff McGraths and

666
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: everybody else. So that's that's dope.

667
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 3: It's a lot of man shout out to Indiana, you know,

668
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 3: Indiana basketball. You know, everybody think it's just like who's

669
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 3: you know, it's a lot of people who have really

670
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,239
Speaker 3: got out the mud in Indiana. You know, pay how

671
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 3: much to those people? But yeah, much love. I'm not

672
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 3: mad with talent spreading. I'm not mad at that at all.

673
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: Don't be afraid, you know, to do your own thing.

674
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 3: Like I said, don't be afraid to navigate your own path.

675
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 3: And that opened up the door for me to be,

676
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 3: you know, one of the first athletes to sign in

677
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 3: Rock Nation, one of the first athletes to sign the Puma.

678
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 3: Like you, you decide what's cool. You know, don't have

679
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 3: other people tell you what you want your experience to

680
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 3: look like, because everybody experience is different. You know. You

681
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 3: you choose your path and decide what's cool. You know

682
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, not just from what everybody tell you.

683
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 3: It was cool.

684
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: So I was.

685
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 3: Luckily I had a mom that you know, she didn't

686
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 3: play no games. She to me my own mind, responsible,

687
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: do your research on your schools. Luckily it was it

688
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 3: was right in my backyard. I didn't have to look

689
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 3: very far.

690
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: I know Inana is proud to have you come from

691
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: that because you're definitely doing your thing now and you

692
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: did your thing then.

693
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 4: Neil Ivy was your assistant while you were there. Right

694
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 4: now she's the head coach. So we talked to Agia Wilson.

695
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 4: We were talking to her and she was just telling

696
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 4: us how impactful and how much it meant for her

697
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 4: to have Don Staley as her coach, somebody who looked

698
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 4: liked her could relate to her basically on every level.

699
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, As a young black girl

700
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 4: coming up, can you talk to me about the impact

701
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 4: of Neelle being a head coach and the representation of

702
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 4: African American women female coaches in the game and how

703
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 4: impactful that could be from you?

704
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 3: Yes, I think it's so important. And I always have

705
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 3: spoken this like, you can't be what you can't see,

706
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 3: and so to have that representation on the bench, and

707
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 3: not only you know, as an assistant coach, you know,

708
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 3: but having a head coach, especially at university like Notre Dame,

709
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 3: who honestly in a student body doesn't have a lot

710
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 3: of that diverse representation. So to have her who has

711
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 3: always been a trailblazer. Obviously, she's just coming off being

712
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 3: the assistant coach for the Memphis Grizzlies, and you know,

713
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 3: I don't know if she if people notice or not,

714
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: but she was undefeated in her scouts.

715
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 6: Well a, yeah, you know what they're you know what

716
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 6: I'm saying, you know, you.

717
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 3: Know, so you know, it's just like just having somebody

718
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: like that, just all the examples. Carol Owens too is

719
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 3: another black woman who was on staff for me, and

720
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 3: just somebody I grew up around, Coquies Washington now is

721
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 3: back on the staff. She's a black woman. So it's

722
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 3: three black women, you know, and it's amazing. And that's

723
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 3: what I would like to see more representation of that

724
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 3: a women women and not only you know that structure

725
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 3: of being a head coach, but you know, our league,

726
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 3: let's have coaches that look like what our league look

727
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 3: looks like majority of the representation in our league. If

728
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 3: one hundred percent of men's jobs go to men, you know,

729
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: we have to start seeing more women getting these positions,

730
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 3: and black women and not only in basketball and c

731
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 3: suite level positions. You know, it shouldn't be one seat

732
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 3: at the table for a black woman in these upper

733
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 3: management what their upper management looks like in these positions.

734
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 3: So representation is important. We need more black writers and

735
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 3: black people and black women that our writing about us

736
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 3: and our game, you know, and translating our message. We

737
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 3: need more people that look like us that we talk

738
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 3: to and think about all the writers that y'all like.

739
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 3: Not trying to be on a soapbox, but I kind

740
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 3: of feel irresponsible if I don't have this energy right now.

741
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 3: You know, just think about all the reporters and people

742
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 3: that you talk to over the years and what that

743
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 3: representation of lack theoryal looks like. And so yes, I

744
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 3: think it's a great start to have women that look

745
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 3: like me, women that I can look up to and

746
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 3: aspire to be like as examples. And Neil has always

747
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 3: been somebody that's who's been that for me, and so

748
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 3: many people just a trailblazer, and the list goes on

749
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 3: and on.

750
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: I think one of the things about us and us

751
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: doing knuckleheads and like, you know, everybody want all the

752
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: NBA players, the big time, big name players, but one

753
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: of our things too is wanted to do the WNBA

754
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: players because it's like, you know, once you're a basketball player,

755
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: you love it no matter who's playing it. And we

756
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: want to tell these stories, like you're saying, you wanted

757
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 1: to have, right, We wanted these stories to get out

758
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: of there, especially for women to you can hear them

759
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: jewels that just get drop, or just hearing somebody else's

760
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: journey of coming up from the way they came up.

761
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: A lot of people have a different role to the

762
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: top than others, and that was one of the things

763
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: about our platform that we really want to.

764
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, we need y'all. We appreciate y'all, like you know,

765
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 3: we need y'all to be allies because if not y'all,

766
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And I had a conversation

767
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 3: earlier with someone in the NBA. We were just talking

768
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 3: about that, and you know, I'm a mom, I'm a mother,

769
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 3: I have a son, you know, and just it's so important,

770
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: you know, to see those allies and to have you know,

771
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 3: men and black men be allies. And likewise, you know

772
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And so it's awesome for y'all. NBA

773
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 3: guys who actually know the game, play the game, and

774
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 3: no shade, not Joe Schmoe off the couch. You know

775
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, trying to disrespect what we've done and

776
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: what we've given to the game, but you know, actually

777
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 3: people who have given something to the game, understanding game

778
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 3: and who are you know, who are the real hoopers.

779
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, and speaking of what you said earlier about you know,

780
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 4: showing people that look like them, I think when we

781
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 4: first started this, you know, we drew lines and the

782
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 4: same with what we were gonna be about and stuff

783
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 4: like that. But I think as we've gone on, we've learned,

784
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 4: just like you just said, we are a representation to

785
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 4: the kids in the community that you could go prod podcasts,

786
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 4: you could still be in the sports world. Maybe you

787
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 4: not the most athletic kid, but you love sports like

788
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 4: you can go pro at this This is you know

789
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And we also showing a lot of

790
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 4: the players that are planning now that are gonna be

791
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 4: former players at some point that this is a career

792
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 4: transition where you can still take the narrative. And we

793
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 4: feel like that each time we sit down with players

794
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 4: that we know that we have a built in conference

795
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 4: zone with them because we are them, We their peers

796
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 4: and were not trying to do anything malicious to them

797
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 4: because we've had it done to us. We want these

798
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 4: stories to be told the way they wanted to be

799
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 4: heard in their words, and we don't want it to

800
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 4: be a clip off of a sentence and then something

801
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 4: look wrong like you know how that go. We want

802
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 4: we want y'all to feel as good about the interview

803
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 4: as we do, because we know when we felt good

804
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 4: about interview. We tell our friend Joe, man, you see

805
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 4: what I did with such and such, Like we want

806
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 4: y'all to have that feeling every time they come and

807
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 4: you walk away from them, like, man, I can't wait

808
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 4: till that come out. That's gonna be tight. Like that's

809
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 4: we want the feeling to be. So that's why we

810
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 4: use our platform the way we do.

811
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 3: Y'all got credibility to like you for the culture. He's

812
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 3: proven proven. You know, everybody who don't know that, you

813
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 3: know everybody knows. Everybody know that, so you know, you

814
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 3: definitely have the credibility.

815
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: I appreciate that been through it.

816
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 3: So people trust what you got to say that it's

817
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 3: gonna be some real stories, you know. It's it's great

818
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 3: telling all these stories you like you said, you get

819
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 3: a little antidotes. I'm sure every time. I know I do.

820
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 3: When I watch it, it's dope. It's dope, you know,

821
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 3: being able to have a platform you care and so

822
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

823
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Speaker 1: Third overall, pick you know your boy went third two,

824
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: so you know you specially you third over going to Tulsa,

825
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: Like how was it going to Tulsa's shop? And you know,

826
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: leaving from all the success you had in high school

827
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: in college and now it's a it's another journey. You

828
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: don't have the mom muffet with you. You know what

829
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like you kind of gotta go on

830
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: and be a woman, real.

831
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Speaker 3: Mama, you know what I mean. Now? Shocked. I was shocked,

832
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 3: Like I was like, whoa, I'd never been to Oklahoma

833
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 3: and I didn't know Tulsa what it looked like. You know,

834
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 3: if I seen a picture of it, you know what

835
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 3: to drive it. But I end up loving it. You know.

836
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 3: We had a great support based there actually, and had

837
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 3: we had more resources, we probably could have been more successful.

838
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It was just like a

839
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 3: new franchise that was we were trying to get our

840
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 3: feet underneath us, but the fans were so loyal that

841
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 3: when we moved to Dallas in twenty sixteen. Our franchise

842
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 3: moved from Tulsa to Dallas in twenty sixteen. We had

843
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 3: fans from Tulsa that will still drive the three hours

844
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 3: down to come to the game. Yeah, it was a

845
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,479
Speaker 3: great following in Tulsa. So it was it was cool

846
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 3: because you know, they never had like the closest professional

847
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 3: team that they had was okay, see yeah it was

848
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 3: it like two hours. So they appreciated it. They really did.

849
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 3: They really did. But when we moved to Dallas, obviously

850
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 3: obviously as a rookie, like I said, it was just like,

851
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 3: oh my goodness. You know, it was like it was

852
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 3: crazy coming in, Like you said, you got the reins

853
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 3: of the team and it's like you go high like that.

854
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 3: You know, you're going to a team that's trying to

855
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 3: rebuild or a team that happened that that happened last year,

856
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 3: you know, trying to have a new year than last year.

857
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 3: So we were still trying to rebuild and trying to

858
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 3: figure out our way. Yeah, it was it was crazy.

859
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 3: It was just eye opening just the amount of talent

860
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 3: and when you think you work hard, you know, I

861
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: think everybody think they work hard, you know what I'm saying,

862
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 3: until you get in the league. And I remember seeing

863
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 3: players my rookie year like catch to me, catching and

864
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 3: Ketch will be there like four hours. When I walked

865
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 3: in the gym, she was sweating on the court doing

866
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 3: really you know, and I'm like, oh my goodness, it's

867
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 3: a reason why she's a Hall of Famer, you know.

868
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 3: And then I see Becky Hammond flicking the ball up,

869
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 3: you know, and I'm like, what is she doing? And

870
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 3: then in the game she rocket on me and finish

871
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 3: That's what she was doing, you know, And it's just

872
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 3: like it's so intentional, you know. The great players are

873
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 3: so intentional with what they do. It makes sense. It

874
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 3: just makes sense. And so I had to step my

875
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 3: game up. Really so my rookie year, I think I

876
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 3: averaged like eight point five points or something like that.

877
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 3: Like forresyst it was just it was bad. And then

878
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 3: the next year, my second year, I made first team.

879
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: I had to see it most and I liked I like,

880
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: I liked your jersey too.

881
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 3: Sometime.

882
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 4: You know that was the most improved year.

883
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, most It was crazy. I got most improved

884
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: and first team the same year, and I remember, because

885
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 3: you know, when you highly tired or whatever you come in,

886
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 3: it's certainly weird those that can't wait for you to

887
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 3: mess up. You know what I'm.

888
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: Saying against you?

889
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 3: Why? But you know I had to earn it, So

890
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 3: I'm not mad about it now because I'm still trying

891
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 3: to earn it. I'm still trying to win a championship,

892
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 3: you know, for All Stars later. It's still ways that

893
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 3: I want to get better, have more team success playing

894
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 3: the playoffs, and so that's what I'm looking forward to

895
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 3: now because now I'm playing with two of the best

896
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,479
Speaker 3: players that I think have ever played our game.

897
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that three head moms over there now it's

898
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: going to be. But before we get to that, I

899
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about another du Rold that you had

900
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: that I thought was final form into something great you

901
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 1: and Liz. Like when you and Liz was playing together,

902
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: like the chemistry, it was like you on the outside

903
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: killing them and you're throwing it downloaded her. She was killed.

904
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: I definitely liked y'all chemistry, but how was that for

905
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: you to have another player that caliber her to play

906
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 1: with and y'all kind of messed to go and she was.

907
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 3: The most dominant player I ever played with ever. I mean,

908
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 3: she could do everything, you know what I'm saying. She

909
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 3: could face up, she could shoot it from the midd range.

910
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 3: She had post moves, you know, she could shoot the three.

911
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 3: And it's just like where you know, and and just footwork,

912
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 3: you know, just unassuming footwork. You know, just skilled, very skilled,

913
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 3: just elite level skill. But we so much alike, you know,

914
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 3: we like Leo, so you know, the teammates that you

915
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 3: so much like, you just like. But I love I

916
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 3: love Liz. I love playing with her because she wanted

917
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 3: to win. She wants to win and she wants it

918
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 3: and she is competitive. And anybody that's like that, you know,

919
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 3: I'm down with them. But sometimes, you know, I would

920
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 3: just get caught up, you know when you play with

921
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 3: dominant big man sometimes because she could be back to

922
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 3: the basket still and you just watch her. It's like, man,

923
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 3: you just get caught kind of watching basketball. Yeah, but yeah, definitely,

924
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: I think if we would have had a few more

925
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 3: years together, you know, we were we never really got

926
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 3: to have, you know, a streak of us playing together.

927
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 3: It was like, yeah, when I first came in the league,

928
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 3: and then it was like five years after that or

929
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 3: something like that. So we never really had to have

930
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:40,479
Speaker 3: that much time for her being in Australia to work

931
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 3: out together. And so I think I think had we,

932
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 3: you know, had a few more years together, you know,

933
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 3: we could have did some damage.

934
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely think so. When I got a glimpse

935
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: of that and just saying how will y'all just went

936
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: inside and outside? I thought that was definitely a dope

937
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: combination for you. And I felt, like you said, it

938
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: was watching your care real It was like, yeah, that's

939
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: the best player she play and it showed and y'all

940
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: showed together instantly when.

941
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 3: It got it was easy because like she would if

942
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 3: she was dominating, they would have to double her and

943
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: then so I wouldn't see as many doubles and blitzes,

944
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 3: and that I hadn't had a little more freedom. I

945
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 3: think it'll be the same with Brittany. I think Brittany

946
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 3: Griner is I feel the same about the.

947
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: Same way.

948
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 3: I think she's one of the most dominant we ever had,

949
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 3: you know, just able to do everything. She can play defense,

950
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 3: you know, she's she's quick on her feet, she could

951
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 3: pitch the screens. You know, she'll run the floor. She

952
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 3: could junk the basketball in the game, you know, at will,

953
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 3: and that's that's different when you're talking about somebody finishing

954
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 3: like that, you know. And then obviously Diana, I have

955
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 3: Diana on the floor. I get to be on her too,

956
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 3: So our schemes are you know, we put bodies and

957
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 3: bodies on her. You know, it's just like expected. You

958
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 3: got to guard her one. You know, it's the Steph

959
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: Harry rules. You gotta guard them once they cross that.

960
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: Court, like, yeah, you gotta show the gold respect. You

961
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: gotta get them.

962
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be this. You know, it's gonna be

963
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 3: great for me because you it's so much talent, you

964
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 3: know that I get to be around. But also you

965
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 3: know they won championships before too, so it's like it's

966
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 3: humbling for me, you know, getting traded. You know, you

967
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 3: think you're gonna be on one team and get traded

968
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 3: and then it's like, okay, well then now I'm ready

969
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 3: to you know, it's like you get popped in the

970
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 3: in the mouth a little bit. You know.

971
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 4: You were the first female athlete to sign with the

972
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 4: rock with Rock Nation, and you were the first athlete

973
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 4: period to sign with Puma since Vince way back in

974
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 4: the day. How did both of those relationships come along?

975
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, Rock Nation my senior year was looking for

976
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 3: management and I still didn't. I didn't have management at

977
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 3: the draft like I didn't. I wasn't sign to anybody

978
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 3: when I got drafted because I had no agent. I

979
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 3: was still kind of shopping around, you know, at the

980
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 3: time for agent, but I didn't have an agent.

981
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 6: And so after so how did you how did you

982
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 6: navigate that?

983
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 3: I talked to the coaches like directly, you know, I

984
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 3: kind of.

985
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: Like I had my own ship, had them own, had

986
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: been grown.

987
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 3: But it wasn't that much longer, you know, after and

988
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 3: I was able to somebody was like, okay, j about

989
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 3: to call you. And I'm like and They're like, jay

990
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 3: Z about to call you right now, and and I

991
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 3: was like, Okay. At this time, you have to understand,

992
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 3: Rock Nation had one person. It was Robinson Cano. That

993
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 3: was it. Okay, people didn't really hear sports. That wasn't

994
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 3: all that paper plane hats and stuff those that was

995
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 3: just that was coming out that was getting you know,

996
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 3: it wasn't Rock National Sports, none of that. And so

997
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 3: he called and kind of told me his vision, which

998
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 3: is exactly what it's turning into for Rock Nation and

999
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 3: sports and how he wanted me to be a part

1000
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 3: of that, and these other agencies were like rotary phams

1001
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 3: I remember, you know, and Jay get on you know,

1002
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 3: he's so smooth, you know, a Yo Skott would up,

1003
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 3: you know, so you know, I had to get myself

1004
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 3: together because I'm like, damn.

1005
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: Album, let me get my life.

1006
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 3: But it was so cool, you know, just being able

1007
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 3: to top it up. We talked for probably like fifteen minutes.

1008
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 3: You know, it was something that we talked and that

1009
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 3: was my first time, you know, talking and getting to

1010
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 3: hear his vision. And so the next steps were kind

1011
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 3: of flying out to New York and you know, meeting

1012
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 3: the team and continuing those talks. So my parents and

1013
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 3: I we we went out there to New York and

1014
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 3: got to see it and I signed right away. Like

1015
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 3: I signed right away. It was no doubt, you know

1016
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Just the extraordinary, you know, starting at

1017
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 3: the top with him, his business mind, his vision, like

1018
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 3: he it. You know, he just gets it, and so

1019
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 3: do all the people around him, like Jenni Fleischman. You know,

1020
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 3: she's on this call, she's been with him forever. You know,

1021
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 3: I was able to kind of work with her and

1022
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 3: other people that you know, just kind of got to

1023
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 3: see my vision for what I wanted to do with

1024
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 3: my career and not just like a basketball player, you

1025
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, but different things that I was

1026
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 3: interested in, be it like fashion or different things, and

1027
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 3: you know, music or pop culture that I wanted to

1028
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 3: be around. And so I went there, I signed, and

1029
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 3: then I was the only female until about probably I

1030
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 3: know Jane's on this call. She probably could tell you

1031
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 3: probably like up until probably like six months ago or

1032
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 3: less than her. But what it is now, you know,

1033
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 3: it was just one and then it was Robinson Cano,

1034
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 3: then C. C. Sabathia, and then it was Geno Smith

1035
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 3: and then Katie and then Katie's and then it was

1036
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 3: five of us and then now it's probably like four

1037
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 3: hundred and something. You know, it's crazy big it's grown

1038
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 3: into in those like seven years. It was definitely cool

1039
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 3: being you know, they used to call me the princess.

1040
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 3: You know, when I would see O g One and stuff,

1041
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 3: you know, it would be like the princess and you know,

1042
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 3: g Wan does you know, it'd be like I was

1043
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 3: a princess. So that was kind of like my little nickname.

1044
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 3: But it's cool, you know, it's a great it's a

1045
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,720
Speaker 3: what they do is amazing, you know, Like I said,

1046
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 3: they just they get it. They get it. It's great management.

1047
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 3: It don't even feel like, you know, work is. It

1048
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 3: feels like family. And I think that's how I should

1049
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 3: feel like and so I love it. And then with

1050
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 3: the Coma, it was kind of like another idea that

1051
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 3: like Jay had really and it just was timing, I guess,

1052
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 3: because my contract was up with Nike and so we

1053
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 3: were trying to figure out, you know, which way we

1054
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 3: were going to go with that. And I had been

1055
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 3: with Nike for four years before that, and we were

1056
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 3: just trying to figure out the steps and Puma didn't

1057
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 3: have anything basketball. So when you know, they was talking

1058
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 3: to me about Puma, I'm like, wait, don't they don't

1059
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 3: have who? But what did sho look like? It wasn't

1060
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 3: a shoe, it wasn't anything. It's just ideas. And so

1061
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 3: that was like a real leap of faith, you know,

1062
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 3: for me with that because I just I didn't know

1063
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 3: obviously the direction Puma was going in currently. It didn't

1064
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 3: have anything to do with basketball. But it was cool.

1065
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 3: They kind of showed me some ideas. I got to

1066
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 3: fly out to Boston, you know, had a few meetings

1067
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 3: and you know, talking to my agents and with Rock

1068
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 3: Nation and just telling me the vision of we're about

1069
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 3: to get back into this basketball sector and were about

1070
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 3: to try to do a big you know, we have this, this, this,

1071
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 3: this plan. Do you want to be you know, down

1072
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 3: for it? And I say yeah. And so I was

1073
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 3: the only one for a while, you know, and they

1074
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 3: were kind of told me, you know this, we're going

1075
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 3: to do this, this and that and so far, you know,

1076
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 3: so good, So far, so good. I love my relationship

1077
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 3: with Puma. It's good to be different too, you know.

1078
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 3: I like it because it was different. You know, it

1079
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 3: was the same old everything. It was like, Okay, I'm

1080
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 3: gonna go on this lane and I'm gonna get my

1081
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 3: own and I'm gonna decide what's cool and I'm gonna

1082
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 3: break what's cool, you know, And so we kind of

1083
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 3: made it.

1084
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 6: Cool, did Wade way Way?

1085
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1086
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 3: Yeah. And so it's obviously still is developing, and you know,

1087
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 3: obviously in the basketball sector, they're really just starting to

1088
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 3: gain momentum and traction and you're really just starting to

1089
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 3: see and hear them. So I think it definitely has

1090
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 3: grown a lot, and I think we still have a

1091
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 3: telescope vision for what it could be. So yeah, I

1092
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 3: think it's awesome. It's cool, and I'm I don't really

1093
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 3: know what that. I don't want an award for like

1094
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 3: being one of the first ones, but I think it's dope,

1095
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 3: especially being a female and you know, just representing that

1096
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 3: in the aspect.

1097
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: No, it's not an award, but it's definitely history of

1098
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 1: the making and the younger girls need to hear that.

1099
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: It was like I think we had Shamikah Hols claw

1100
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: and we talked about her slam cup. Yeah, like the

1101
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: girls need to hear this. This is This was one

1102
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: of my favorite colors and it's a woman on the

1103
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: front cover with a Knicks jersey on, and I thought

1104
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: it was one of the hardest covers ever made, you

1105
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,720
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And like girls need to see

1106
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 1: that to be different sometimes, you know what I'm saying.

1107
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 2: Tell me this.

1108
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts and feelings on the new the

1109
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 4: WNBA CBA and do you feel like you had any

1110
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 4: impact on it?

1111
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's great progress. I think the CBA

1112
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 3: is great progress. I think that I know that we

1113
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 3: have great leadership in the WNBA who starting with our

1114
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 3: president Neckle o'glooman k like I said, it was a

1115
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 3: good friend of mine having her leadership at the top,

1116
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 3: being able to sit at the table, being able to

1117
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 3: have these conversations, these tough conversations, and being able to

1118
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 3: fight for the opinions of one hundred and forty four

1119
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 3: women who have a slice of the pie and have

1120
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 3: a seat at the table. And so it's not all

1121
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 3: the time in the WNBA. You and got to prioritize

1122
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 3: what you want because you're not going to get everything.

1123
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 3: So to me, as a mother, the most important thing

1124
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 3: could be my child, you know, making sure me as

1125
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 3: a mother you understand what comes with that and wearing

1126
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 3: that hat and making sure that I have all the

1127
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 3: resources there that I need from my child and myself

1128
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 3: and my family. Whereas if you're not a mom, your

1129
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 3: main priority might be this, this, this and that or

1130
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 3: depending on what market you're in, your experience may be

1131
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 3: different than my experience. Does that make sense? So we

1132
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 3: may want, you know, our experiences may be different, but

1133
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 3: we know that we would like to get to the

1134
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 3: point where where you know, we want more teams. You know,

1135
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 3: we're chartering where we get more marketing dollars and resources

1136
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 3: to be successful. You know, it's like the chicken and

1137
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 3: the egg. You know, we need resources to be successful.

1138
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 3: We need those TV deals and to be shown. We

1139
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 3: need to have exposure, more exposure for our league to

1140
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 3: continue to grow. And so I thought the CBA definitely

1141
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 3: showed progress. And I know I was very very vocal

1142
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,959
Speaker 3: about my experience last year and being the first time

1143
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 3: mom and you know, not having a place to pump,

1144
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 3: not having a place to store, you know, not going

1145
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 3: to too many details, but that is what it is.

1146
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 3: I'm a mom, a wife, and as a whoper. You know,

1147
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 3: I'm not putting my breast milk in there with the gatorade.

1148
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 3: I'm just not doing it. And so, you know, I

1149
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 3: think just it's education, and you know, really I'm not

1150
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 3: the only mom in the league. We had other moms

1151
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 3: who spoke up and said a lot of great things,

1152
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 3: and everybody contributed. We had over ninety percent who voted

1153
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 3: on the CBA, so almost everybody participated. And so I

1154
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 3: definitely think, you know, when it comes to some changes

1155
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 3: on motherhood. You know, like I said, Nekka is a

1156
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 3: close friend of mine, but her being the president, I

1157
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 3: was able to go to her and you know, just

1158
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 3: talk to her about my experience, and like I said,

1159
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 3: other mom and moms and other women spoke up. And

1160
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 3: it's a lot of great things in the CBA. Now

1161
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 3: even family planning has been added to the CBA if

1162
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 3: you want to plan for your family in the future.

1163
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 3: And so it's great to see. It's a great progress.

1164
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 3: I think what I hope is that it gives women

1165
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 3: in every corporation, in every sector to have the audacity

1166
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 3: to say what they need and to use their voice

1167
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 3: and speak out, you know, throughout any type of market.

1168
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 3: You know, as a woman, as a mom, I need this,

1169
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 3: you know, I should be provided this and to fight

1170
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 3: for those rights.

1171
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,919
Speaker 1: That's one of the biggest thing I love about this

1172
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: era because like our era, you used to have to

1173
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,959
Speaker 1: take shit to the grave with you. But this era,

1174
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: like people is like speaking up, saying their experiences, just

1175
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: telling their story and people can relate to what's going on.

1176
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: So that's one of the biggest things I just love

1177
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: about this era that people actually are not afraid to

1178
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: just say something and give your opinion, and that's why

1179
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: we get changed. It don't change overnight, but it's a

1180
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: good way to step forward.

1181
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, to tell me, like you just said, your mother

1182
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 4: and you have a son, what are your thoughts on

1183
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 4: a social climate right now with what's going on here

1184
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 4: in America really around the world right now, with the

1185
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 4: situation with George Floyd and everything.

1186
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 2: What are your.

1187
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 3: Thoughts about everything? It's devastating, you know, it's devastating, and

1188
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 3: you know, especially to we just talking about experiences that

1189
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 3: you know, I know somebody who's had a certain experience,

1190
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 3: a family member, myself, my husband, some encounter with the

1191
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 3: police where it may have went too far or you know,

1192
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 3: something that shouldn't have happened and escalated. You know, it's

1193
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 3: too many of these stories. It happens too much. It's

1194
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 3: disproportionately affecting, you know, black and brown people who are

1195
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 3: affected by police brutality. And you can't sit back as

1196
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 3: a human and pretend like it's nothing wrong. You know,

1197
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 3: even you know, my white grandmother is like this is

1198
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 3: you know, boom boom, And it's not enough to be

1199
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 3: just sit back and be like I'm not racist. You

1200
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 3: have to be intentionally anti racist, and everybody who is

1201
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 3: racist who doesn't have that energy, who you know, they

1202
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 3: need to be called out. And you see a lot

1203
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 3: of people being called out. And it's fine to have

1204
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 3: an opinion, but it's also fine for people to have

1205
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 3: opinion about your opinion. I think right now, my son

1206
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 3: is fifteen months. I don't have to have that conversation

1207
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 3: with him right now. But my husband is twenty eight

1208
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 3: and every time he goes into a store, especially in

1209
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 3: this climate, I'm sending my husband into the store with

1210
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 3: a mask and gloves. That scares me every time he

1211
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 3: leaves the house. Now I'm uncomfortable with my husband driving

1212
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 3: at night time. It's a different set of rules that

1213
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 3: we've always had to follow and this grief process that

1214
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 3: we have to continue to endure over and over again,

1215
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 3: and finally it seems like people are starting to see

1216
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 3: it through another lens.

1217
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like this time is different a little bit.

1218
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 4: It feels a little And we're.

1219
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 3: Talking about something that was caught on tape. You know

1220
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Why are we investigating something that was

1221
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 3: caught on tape? You know, how am I supposed to

1222
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 3: explain that? You know? And it's just it's tough. It's

1223
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 3: tough conversations that we've always had to have, you know,

1224
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 3: in our community unfortunately, and now it's just being done

1225
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 3: on camera. So hopefully, you know, it needs to start

1226
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 3: with legislative change. You know, we need to try to

1227
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 3: police reform. It's cool that people are marching, we need

1228
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 3: people to sign up and register to vote and make

1229
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 3: sure that we that we got sixty thousand people out

1230
01:00:58,280 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 3: of march. We need to have somebody out there with

1231
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 3: a clear board registering people to vote. It's so important

1232
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 3: to make sure we have the elect officials in place

1233
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 3: who care about us in our communities and look like us. Honestly,

1234
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 3: we need more representation, you know. It's just it just

1235
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 3: makes me shake my head, like I don't know how

1236
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 3: many times a day I just get caught just shaking

1237
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 3: my head, and especially as a mom watching the video

1238
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 3: hearing George Floyd call for his mother to me as

1239
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 3: a mom when he said that he summoned all the moms,

1240
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 3: so it makes me say that I need to be

1241
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 3: doing more. I need to be doing more, and I

1242
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 3: can do more and I plan on doing more. So

1243
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 3: it just that's how it makes me feel I'm like,

1244
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 3: this is whatever y'all want to do. You know, that's

1245
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 3: how I feel. It's whatever everybody want to do. I'm down,

1246
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 3: But I think it's important to really look inside yourself

1247
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 3: and to say, Okay, how can I really make a change.

1248
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 3: Am I actively trying to make a change. Am I

1249
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 3: just sitting in the house complaining about this shit? You know?

1250
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 3: So my energy is I'm trying to actively make a

1251
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 3: change and figure out ways that I could do that.

1252
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 3: So it's definitely inspired me a lot. But it's just

1253
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 3: unfortunate that it takes this for us to try to

1254
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 3: fight for for some just.

1255
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, because like you said,

1256
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 4: we've been this song, We've been living.

1257
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 2: Forever, far before. This is far before any of us.

1258
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 4: But like for me, it's especially scary time I have

1259
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 4: My step son is sixteen years old, right, so since

1260
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 4: he can't he moved here with us since third grade,

1261
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 4: so about third grade, since he had gotten here, I

1262
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 4: can't stay every week, But I asked him often, like

1263
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 4: I asked him almost. I asked him enough that he

1264
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 4: when it happened to him it wouldn't be like culture shock.

1265
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 4: I would ask him every so often somebody call you

1266
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 4: an inn.

1267
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 2: Where yet?

1268
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 4: And like when I first asked him, he was like,

1269
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 4: why you asked me? I like, because it's gonna happen,

1270
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And my thing to him

1271
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 4: because I was telling one of my best friends from college.

1272
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 4: He's a white guy, if it's your fitzy, So I'm

1273
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 4: telling him the story and he's like, you gotta understan,

1274
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 4: you gotta explain it to me.

1275
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 1: Why.

1276
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm like imagining that some person because whoever

1277
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 4: the kid is, you know, it's some kids stuff, but

1278
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 4: he the intend is malicious. Whoever's gonna do it. He's

1279
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 4: trying to hurt your feelings, make you feel bad, or

1280
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 4: do something to not make you feel good. Right, So

1281
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 4: imagine that this is the first time whoever this kid

1282
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 4: is that, that's the first time he's hearing that, and

1283
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 4: he gives that kid that satisfaction of being shocked or

1284
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 4: crying or reacting whatever way, giving him that pleasure.

1285
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 6: I got you.

1286
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 4: I said, Nah, not my guy, he's not gonna happen.

1287
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 4: You're gonna be ready when it happened. And sure enough,

1288
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 4: it happened. What didn't happen when we were hearing for

1289
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 4: I was in Michigan working for the Pistons and it happened,

1290
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 4: and he was ready and it didn't phaze him, and

1291
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 4: it was like, you know, it was still was a moment.

1292
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 4: We dealt with it, but it was like, I was

1293
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 4: happy and proud that you didn't give it to him.

1294
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 4: You didn't give him what he wanted. He didn't see that,

1295
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 4: he didn't get the satisfaction that he hurt you, that

1296
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 4: he startled you, he did something.

1297
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 2: That really hurt you.

1298
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 6: He was like, so okay, like whatever, you know what

1299
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 6: I'm saying, Like.

1300
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 2: I can't imagine.

1301
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 3: I can't I can't imagine that. And you have to

1302
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 3: literally teach him how to be so his behavior doesn't

1303
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 3: get weaponized and villainized, you know.

1304
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 4: So we don't know the scenario if he turned around

1305
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 4: and you know, he get upset and he punched him

1306
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 4: with something. Now the teacher's gonna say he hit him first,

1307
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 4: take him to the principal's office, all this stuff.

1308
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: So he did say so.

1309
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then he that's that's what's gonna turn to.

1310
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 4: He said, that's cool. You ain't gotta say nothing, just

1311
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 4: you ain't phased by it. But you know what it

1312
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:34,439
Speaker 4: is now.

1313
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 3: It's crazy the stories that you know, even Breonna Taylor,

1314
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 3: you know, it's like her story may be a little more,

1315
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 3: it seems a little bit more disconnected from like this

1316
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 3: main the mainstream moving right now. But you know she

1317
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 3: was just she would have been twenty seven. I'm twenty nine.

1318
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 3: So just to think about me in the in the house,

1319
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 3: you know, with my family, and to just be killed,

1320
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 3: you know, for no reason to steal. You will not

1321
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 3: have these officers arrested. It's just like if there were

1322
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 3: any other person off the street, y'all have been rested

1323
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 3: the same night.

1324
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: It wouldn't have the bond either.

1325
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 4: When they gave him a bond, we'd have had them

1326
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 4: on TV with the SWAT team running now with the helicopters, embarrassing, you.

1327
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 3: Don't even have to announce like you're the police. It's

1328
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 3: just it makes me so mad. It makes me so mad.

1329
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 3: And if I'm scared to when I do have to

1330
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 3: have these conversations, you know, with my son, what are

1331
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 3: we going to say? You know, he watched the news

1332
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 3: right now. Even then I'd be like, no, baby, if

1333
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 3: they try, I don't show the video or something. And

1334
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 3: I'm like no, you know, I try to just shelter

1335
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 3: and protect him, and it's just so symbolic. It's so symbolic.

1336
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 3: But something has to be done, and you know, we

1337
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 3: need to continue to fight. It's not good enough just

1338
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 3: to for We need convictions, you know, we need convictions,

1339
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 3: not just arresting.

1340
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need change. Definitely changed the whole system. Change

1341
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: like rewriting everything, because it's crazy out here. When you

1342
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 1: came up, who's the female the woman that you had

1343
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: in your game after the one that you looked at

1344
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 1: was like, man, I want to be like that or

1345
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 1: have game like that.

1346
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 3: Honestly, when I was coming up, it was three people

1347
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 3: I was looking at like that one was cool, right,

1348
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 3: like cool. She just her game was so nasty, you know.

1349
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 3: I just like the way she just was crafty with

1350
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 3: the ball. She could just get a bucket and she

1351
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 3: you know, she always got in ones, like she was

1352
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 3: just real crafty with the ball. I just loved and

1353
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 3: I loved her energy, how she kind of had some

1354
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 3: charisma with the crowd and with the fan, you know,

1355
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 3: could interact and just really take over the game. Fed

1356
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 3: off of that. Another player that I really watched was

1357
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,919
Speaker 3: Don Don Staley and that was like the whole really

1358
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 3: down got me. Don was the first like Black Woman

1359
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 3: and Team USA that ninety that I got to see

1360
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 3: that look like me. I'm like, oh wow, that was

1361
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 3: my first time seeing like like it was a Lisa,

1362
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 3: Lisa Leslie, Rebecca Lobo, Don and those were the ones

1363
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 3: that came on. I was like wow. I was like, mommy, look,

1364
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 3: it's like I can play. It was just and then

1365
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 3: after that we got next campaign started, and then the

1366
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 3: w n B A started and then I was able

1367
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 3: to kind of see him play but definitely coop down.

1368
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 3: And then I watched Kathy a lot, watch a lot,

1369
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 3: a lot, a lot, a lot. She was just a

1370
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 3: oh my goodness, she like, you know, it's no Chicago.

1371
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 3: You know her sweat her game. She wasn't afraid of nothing.

1372
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 3: When you talk about playing against guys, it's just she didn't.

1373
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 3: She didn't, she didn't. She don't miss a beat. But

1374
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 3: she was just such a bucket. I was just like

1375
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 3: Man and Cappy Pondex. It didn't matter. She was so shifting.

1376
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 3: And then I couldn't leave without saying Deanna Nolan too,

1377
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 3: because a lot of people used to.

1378
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: Get in Detroit.

1379
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 3: But I don't know why Detroit with the head, but

1380
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 3: it's like Dana Nolan in Detroit. I mean that was

1381
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 3: that was the best team.

1382
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 1: That girl, the female bad Boys, the.

1383
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:33,480
Speaker 3: Female Karen Braxton and Lanette Pearson and Sheryl Ford and

1384
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 3: Katy Smith. Like that team she was. She shot, I

1385
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 3: mean she jumped up in the air and shot a

1386
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 3: true jump shot. But tweeting Nolan for sure, those those

1387
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:47,839
Speaker 3: were right there, Tweety Dawn Coop and Cappy. I wouldn't

1388
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 3: say my game might not be similar to theirs, but

1389
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 3: those the ones I was looking at, like I like

1390
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 3: you were looking at.

1391
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 1: Take it from when I watched you play, like you

1392
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 1: get in your mold when you really groove and the

1393
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 1: myyebrows get to going down, you got the mean face song?

1394
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,600
Speaker 1: Who installed that in you? Because you know, you know,

1395
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 1: like with females or women you know in the game,

1396
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 1: you know they want you to don't be as tough,

1397
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 1: but don't show too much toughness or roughness or try

1398
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 1: to look mean. But who installed that in you? Like, nah,

1399
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: you're supposed to make that mug and bus whoever?

1400
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I was, like I said, maybe my

1401
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 3: mom had like a small short woman complex. You know,

1402
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 3: I've always had had attitude and attitude, but I always

1403
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 3: had I always had it, and I just I want

1404
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 3: to win. A very competitive like kid. If I hated,

1405
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 3: I hate to lose, you know, or I love to

1406
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 3: win though more than I hate to lose. But I

1407
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 3: just when we're playing cards, I'm gonna be serious. If

1408
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 3: we're playing monopoly, I'm trying to win. It's like we bowling.

1409
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 3: You're rich, I'm trying to I'm looking at your score,

1410
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 3: like what rich? Okay, Okay, you know, secretly, even if

1411
01:09:56,200 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 3: you don't know, in my mind, you know, my mind

1412
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 3: was always real competitive with me. He was always real

1413
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 3: rough with me. And I just think naturally I was

1414
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 3: naturally a tomboy. You know. I just prefer the you

1415
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 3: know quote dirt over dolls.

1416
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 2: You know.

1417
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 3: I was just always like a tomboy. I was just

1418
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 3: was more interested, you know. At that time, like I said,

1419
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 3: it wasn't a lot of females hooping like that in

1420
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 3: my area, and we had to play against guys, and

1421
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 3: so that's just kind of how it was. I probably

1422
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 3: developed some toughness just because of that and having to

1423
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 3: play against, you know, people that were older than me.

1424
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 3: Play against guy. I just had to develop kind of

1425
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 3: a tough demeanor too, because people would think I was soft.

1426
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 3: So I just had to kind of, you know, develop

1427
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 3: that that shell as far as Okay, you ain't gonna

1428
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 3: punk me, you know what I'm saying, or you you

1429
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 3: know I'm about you know, like that energy.

1430
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 1: You can't play on the level that we play on

1431
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: being soft or being having their type of weakness just

1432
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 1: like that. And you don't got to be the toughest,

1433
01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 1: but you just can't be the completely softest and the scary.

1434
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 1: And I tell people that all the time. It's not

1435
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 1: like an arrogant thing, but you just gotta have that

1436
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 1: type of arrogant toughness with you to play this game,

1437
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: especially to play on the highest level that you know

1438
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 1: you actually play.

1439
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 3: That gets you the most respect too. I feel like

1440
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 3: people don't people respect the ones that, like, you know,

1441
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,680
Speaker 3: go hard and the ones that don't back down, Like

1442
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 3: you're gonna get popped in the mouth. Everybody gonna have

1443
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 3: a day, they moment, you're gonna get torched one night,

1444
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 3: you're gonna get to but you gotta be tough because

1445
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 3: you'll know in the league, like you play the next

1446
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 3: day you play the next you know, you play back to.

1447
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 1: Back, you play play a cover day?

1448
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay check you know back to you know, I

1449
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 3: see you again. You gotta have a mentally tough you know,

1450
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 3: demeanor too, because you are gonna take some hits. You

1451
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 3: got to just take your lumps and be able to

1452
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 3: stand up.

1453
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 2: Well.

1454
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't speak for the younger generation because

1455
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 1: this youngest generation with everything social media and stuff, after

1456
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 1: they get dark the cross, they see that ship for

1457
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 1: like whole year, and I don't know if some of

1458
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: the dunk offs and crossolvers I got in the leader,

1459
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: I couldn't be able. I don't know if I could

1460
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 1: be able to take it a whole year or seeing

1461
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 1: it or so see.

1462
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 4: That's that's symbolic for them, like they so solid and cool.

1463
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 4: They are laughing off like you know, somebody would have

1464
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,799
Speaker 4: our generation. You would have came out of game, somebody

1465
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,759
Speaker 4: at you, you getting dunked on, you about to be.

1466
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: Who wrote this?

1467
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:27,839
Speaker 2: Let me a reporter like whatever?

1468
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 6: Like ball is like like hold on, who controlled the ball?

1469
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 2: Is life handled? Like you ain't just gonna have me

1470
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 2: out here like that like.

1471
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 3: People on the end. You know, that's that's what you Yeah,

1472
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 3: but I think it is what it is because it's

1473
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 3: in our game too. So if you get hit with

1474
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 3: a move now and it is what it is, they

1475
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 3: gonna show it, They're gonna post it. It's like good moves, girl.

1476
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 3: You know, I play this game. I'm had my fair

1477
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 3: share of them too, you know. But I give credit

1478
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 3: where credit is due. But you know, I'm not about

1479
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 3: to be in that embarrassed off for you know, one

1480
01:12:58,840 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 3: play straight up.

1481
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 1: Okay, start bitch cut mm hmm, start bench cut, Diana Tarassi,

1482
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:16,600
Speaker 1: Cynthia Cooper Wow Kills and Sheryl Swoops. Yeah, you have

1483
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 1: to start bench Yeah.

1484
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 3: Man, you're gonna have me on women's Uh okay, start

1485
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 3: bench cut. I feel like it's disrespectful to cut like

1486
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 3: Cooper swoops, you know, but Diana is like my teammate.

1487
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 3: I need to use a lifeline. I'm I'm gonna start Coop.

1488
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna start Coop. I'm I got a bench. I

1489
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 3: guess I got a bench Swoops and cut the if

1490
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 3: we're talking about, you know, the og status of it.

1491
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 3: But man, you literally picked probably three of the four

1492
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 3: mount Rushmore's for really, well, who.

1493
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 1: Is your favorite five not your top five, not your

1494
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: top five women, but who is your favorite five women?

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Speaker 1: Like your favorite five women.

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Speaker 3: Tamika Catchings definitely is in my favorites. Tina Thompson is

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01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 3: in my favorites. I love, love love Tina oh Man.

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01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 3: Coop is in my favorites for sure, her just love

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01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 3: watching her. Lisa Leslie is in my favorites. Huh. And

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Speaker 3: then I would have to say I probably to say Don.

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01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 3: I would say Don sure, just because just the legend

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01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 3: and she kind of like they all kind of kicked

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01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 3: it off. They definitely blaze that trail. We're standing on

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01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 3: their shoulders.

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01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 4: You know.

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01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 3: Those those women for sure are very instrumental. And I

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01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 3: wanted to sing, you know, the Don Staley Sting jersey,

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01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 3: and you know, I wanted to catch the Indiana Fever

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01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 3: jersey that you know had with the white shoulders and

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01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 3: the school shoes like I had the Schools kicks when

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01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:08,839
Speaker 3: the Schools Kicks.

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Speaker 1: Came out and a feeling like a cutoff T shirt.

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01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's cool. It's it's crazy how many teams

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01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 3: that we had and now we don't have them. I

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01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 3: would like to see maybe some of those try again,

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01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 3: you know, and some of those.

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01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 1: I think I think it's gonna get that that way.

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01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 1: I think it. I think they went overboard. I think

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01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 1: they should have started off where it is now and

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01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 1: then got to that point. But I think it's I

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01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 1: think it's gonna get there. I think this is in

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01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: the in the right direction. You know. I love to

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01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,679
Speaker 1: see the w n b A. It's exciting every year.

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01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 1: It's competition is like none the other. But I feel

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01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 1: like it's gonna get better as it goes. I feel

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01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 1: like they're doing it right now. And then with this

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01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 1: new generation, new millennium, we're not gonna let them do

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01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 1: it wrong. You know what I'm saying.

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01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 2: We're not.

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01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 1: It's too many people watching, so so it's hard for

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01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,600
Speaker 1: you to do it wrong and continue to do it wrong. So,

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01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's gonna get that right.

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01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 4: Tell me this, where were you when everything, when the quarantine,

1534
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 4: everything with COVID happened, and then how have you gone

1535
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 4: about trying to prepare for a season that you know

1536
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 4: you were excited for your new team and everything. Y'all

1537
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 4: got a good outlook on the season. How have you

1538
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 4: been preparing and now what you see? You know, the

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01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:27,600
Speaker 4: different updates of things have you been getting getting ready for.

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01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was in Dallas for the whole thing, and

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01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 3: you know, for the first part of it, I had

1542
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 3: the gym, and then obviously when it shut down, I

1543
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 3: didn't have a gym for a few weeks, and you know,

1544
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 3: you just feel weird, you know, it just don't even

1545
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 3: feel right, not being able to just go to the gym,

1546
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 3: but you know, just having to be creative. I was

1547
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 3: just having to go outside or you know, do different

1548
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:52,759
Speaker 3: ball handling workouts online, you know, doing some footwork stuff,

1549
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 3: running conditioning, just trying to lift as professional y'all know.

1550
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 3: It's like it's not nobody that's going to walk you

1551
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 3: through it, like regardless of what's going on, you have

1552
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 3: to do it yourself and take responsibility, you know, for

1553
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 3: your body and what you look like. And so it

1554
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 3: just really made me focus kind of honing, you know,

1555
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 3: more on that you start doing more things, eating a

1556
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 3: little bit better because you might be you know, making

1557
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 3: some of your own meals. But I was able to

1558
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 3: get accessibility to a gym, so I really had only

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01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 3: a few weeks where I didn't have it, But just

1560
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 3: trying to prepare her, I mean, you visualize I guess

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01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 3: that's what I do in my workouts, and like you

1562
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 3: got bodies out there, just trying to visualize, you know,

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01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 3: using cones and dummies and you know, chairs and anything

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01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 3: that I could find to kind of help me simulate

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01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 3: what's going on. But yeah, I don't have nothing to

1566
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 3: compare to just trying to stay in shape and you know,

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01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 3: feel good from a body standpoint, just so I could

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01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 3: try to stay ready.

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Speaker 4: Tell me how you feel about Coach Muffy retiring. It's

1570
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 4: it's the end of an error. Like, tell me what

1571
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 4: she's meant to you the university and so many other

1572
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 4: girls that she's coached, and now with Ivy stepping in,

1573
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 4: and how that's going to impact the university.

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01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 2: Tell me what muff is.

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01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean coachmangirl a lot. I mean she coached

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01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:07,919
Speaker 3: there for a long time. I mean forever.

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Speaker 4: I was looking at it when she when she announced,

1578
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 4: and was looking at all the act out like this

1579
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 4: is why I didn't even know all of that.

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01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 3: It's almost weird to not see her affiliated, you know,

1581
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 3: especially me growing up in South Bend, Like that's all

1582
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 3: you heard. You know, she's a celebrity. She's like the mayor,

1583
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 3: you know, in Southland. Just everything she's done for the community,

1584
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 3: and she continues to do work in the community. But

1585
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 3: she gets it, you know, she gets it. She is

1586
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 3: a player's coach who just care about the connection that

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01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 3: they have with you outside of the lines. They care

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01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 3: about what you're going through, you know, growing up into

1589
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:46,440
Speaker 3: a woman trying to just navigate Notre Dame and college

1590
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 3: and you know, balance all that new found attention and

1591
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 3: you know, just everything going on. She was always a

1592
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 3: voice of calm and you could tell that she was

1593
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 3: such a pro. She had been there before. By the

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01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 3: time I got there, I don't think I could have

1595
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 3: surprised her with anything or any situation. You know, she

1596
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 3: had pretty much seen it all. But I was just

1597
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 3: blessed to have somebody like her who she wasn't afraid

1598
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 3: to take you outside of your comfort zone, you know,

1599
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 3: and she really challenged you to try to see how

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01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 3: high your elevator could go. You know, she really didn't

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01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 3: let you or allow you to. If we playing five

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01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 3: on five in practice, my team could be winning, I

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01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 3: could be up by six points last two minutes, She'll

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01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 3: switch me. But the other team constantly wanted to challenge

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01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,839
Speaker 3: me and put me outside my comfort zone, even challenged

1606
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 3: me as a woman as a student athlete. Just always

1607
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:44,679
Speaker 3: there and available as a resource and definitely an example

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01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,799
Speaker 3: of a strong woman. You know, she was definitely example

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01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,759
Speaker 3: of being a white ally. You know, she always spoke

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01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 3: up and spoke out, was definitely a trailblazer just speaking

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01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 3: on women's rights and you know, just everything that she

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01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 3: stood for. It was the reason why I wanted to

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01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 3: go and learn under her, you know. And so she

1614
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 3: definitely is like a second mom to me, you know,

1615
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 3: a mom away from home. Her and Neo both, and

1616
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 3: so I was just blessed to be able to have

1617
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:09,720
Speaker 3: a resource like that to be able to go to

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01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 3: and learn from. And yeah, I love coach McGrath. She's

1619
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 3: definitely a legend in South Bend and women's basketball and

1620
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 3: just in basketball in general. And then as far as

1621
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 3: Neale goes, you know, Neille, me and Neil are tight,

1622
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 3: like that's my girl, and I'm so proud of everything

1623
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 3: that she's done and has accomplished. And to be able

1624
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 3: to have somebody like that where you can call a

1625
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,679
Speaker 3: friend and just to see him flourishing, you know, it's

1626
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 3: just it's just so dope to see you know where

1627
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 3: she's come from, her background, you know, coming from Saint

1628
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 3: Louis and just being able to go to like Notre Dame,

1629
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 3: and then now she's the face of Notre Dame. So

1630
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 3: it's just insane. It's insane, but it's great. Like I said,

1631
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 3: you can't be with you great, you can't see So

1632
01:20:55,000 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 3: it's dope to have representation, you know, like Nell being

1633
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,600
Speaker 3: a head coach at the University of Notre Dame, be

1634
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 3: an assistant coach on the bench in the NBA, and

1635
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 3: it's all for a reason, you know. And so I

1636
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 3: definitely think that she was the only person that probably

1637
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:14,839
Speaker 3: could have taken the reins, you know, after coach McGrath.

1638
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 3: But like I said, she undefeated in her scouts. She's

1639
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 3: a great scouter, she's a great rebooter. She's very charismatic.

1640
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 3: You know, she can connect with the players. She has

1641
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 3: a son, Jaden, who's eighteen, you know, so she's very

1642
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 3: connected to that age of.

1643
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 1: She can yeah, old lady, now, old lady, now.

1644
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 3: That age you know a lot of young ladies that

1645
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 3: she's talking to. So she knows her stuff. Man. So

1646
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 3: if I ever got into coaching, you know, I would

1647
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 3: want to coach under her for sure, and learn under

1648
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 3: her or somebody like her, coach McGrath for sure.

1649
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely coming from the crib. You know, we're

1650
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 1: very proud of her from.

1651
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 3: Doing her things and she's the best dress.

1652
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, she used to be killing them on the bench.

1653
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 1: She definitely used to. And what did you think about

1654
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 1: Kobe embracing the women's game as much as he was

1655
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 1: embracing before.

1656
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean ever since that i've known, like Kobe,

1657
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 3: like I've met him or haven't met, I've heard that

1658
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 3: he was very supportive of women's basketball. Just basket. It's

1659
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:20,520
Speaker 3: just basketball, y'all. You know, it's just basketball. He loved basketball,

1660
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 3: he loved the game. But like I said, it's so

1661
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 3: important to have those voices somebody who's one of the

1662
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 3: most influential sports figures of all time, you know, just

1663
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 3: saying and showing support, not just talking to talk, but

1664
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 3: walking the talk and going to the games, you know,

1665
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 3: showing support to players, reaching out. You know, I got

1666
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 3: a chance to work with Kobe. I always keep like

1667
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:46,200
Speaker 3: my Kobe book right here too, Like he signed this

1668
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 3: for me, so I like always I cherished his book.

1669
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 3: Kobe Kobe, He I had a chance to work with him,

1670
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 3: like in Body Armor because he was with so as I,

1671
01:22:57,600 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 3: So I had a chance to work with and do

1672
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 3: not keep basketball too when I was my time with Nike,

1673
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 3: So I was able to be spend a little bit

1674
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 3: of time around him. And not only was he just

1675
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 3: like because you know, I feel like some players no shape,

1676
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 3: but sometimes they don't come off as genuine. It's kind

1677
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 3: of like I'm gonna send his tweet real quick, so

1678
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 3: it's a gesture. It's the optic, you know, like I

1679
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 3: don't really watch their support or know anything about it,

1680
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 3: but it's just like I want people to think that

1681
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 3: I think it's cool. So you know, sometimes do you know,

1682
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 3: but it is, you know, Kobe was actually you know,

1683
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 3: he knew the players, he knew the teams, he knew

1684
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 3: the series went to five games. She had ten points

1685
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 3: in the fourth course, like he would know details like oh,

1686
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 3: he really watches the game, he watches he watches he

1687
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 3: watches our game, and you know he has respect for

1688
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 3: our game. And so it's like I said, it's just great.

1689
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 3: It's not like you actively search for any validation, but

1690
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 3: when you have somebody like that and that caliber, the

1691
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 3: greatest of all time, you know, just want to support

1692
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 3: and get back to the game. And you know, obviously

1693
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:08,639
Speaker 3: him being a girl dad, you know, he just really

1694
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 3: showed a lot of support to a lot of individuals, teams,

1695
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 3: and just women's basketball in general. And so you know,

1696
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 3: we definitely appreciated that and everything that he stood for. No.

1697
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 1: I definitely thought it was dope because you know, somebody

1698
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 1: a Kobe's statue. I think the media made it more

1699
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 1: of a big deal, but you know, real ball is

1700
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 1: real hoop. It was like, man, that's just dope. How

1701
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 1: you was just supporting the game, but somebody at his

1702
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 1: stature to be at them games and show support. And

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01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 1: I think us as NBA players, former NBA players or

1704
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 1: current NBA player, we need to go to more games.

1705
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 1: We need to help out with that and we need

1706
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 1: If you see a Kevin Durant or Lebron sitting courtside

1707
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 1: or something, it's like, I want to go even more.

1708
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 1: But if you really play it to the game, if

1709
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:53,639
Speaker 1: you play, you really play a cension to the game

1710
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:56,640
Speaker 1: because the game is great. I don't understand if you

1711
01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 1: like men's basketball, how can you not like when basketball

1712
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 1: it's like yeah and you see a little bit more. Definitely,

1713
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 1: women play a little bit more.

1714
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 3: Your game is a little bumper of ours too, So

1715
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 3: you see people people talking about scoring and things like that.

1716
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,640
Speaker 3: You play, y'all play a little longer than we do.

1717
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:22,599
Speaker 3: If we had that eight minutes, we would probably be up. Yeah,

1718
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 3: actually eight or something though, But yeah, no, you hear it.

1719
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just basketball. It's basketball. And if you

1720
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 3: haven't watched it, if you just basing it off of

1721
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:37,839
Speaker 3: you know, shade, maybe your local girls in the community

1722
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 3: that you feel like you busting up, Are you feeling

1723
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:45,680
Speaker 3: good at the center? You know, getting getting you know,

1724
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 3: just don't be disrespectful to all the work and the time,

1725
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 3: you know that that we put into this game and

1726
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 3: the blood, sweat and tears we put into this game

1727
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 3: to make it at this level. And I guarantee you

1728
01:25:55,680 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 3: our practice guys are we played practice team is all guys. Yeah,

1729
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 3: and you know those are calid players with price against

1730
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 3: And I just think it's just ignorance and people that

1731
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 3: usually disparage us, disparage women in sports or period.

1732
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 2: You know.

1733
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:17,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I just won't make sure that I let

1734
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 4: you know before before we let you get up out

1735
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 4: of here, So I ain't never watched Notre Dames women's

1736
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 4: basketball until you got there. My god daughter, Dasiah Henry,

1737
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 4: you her favorite player. She even got a picture with

1738
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:33,520
Speaker 4: you when y'all came and played the Sky in Chicago.

1739
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 4: She was at the game and got a picture with you.

1740
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 4: But we definitely, like we have everybody on here, man,

1741
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,440
Speaker 4: we like to let them know that we noticed.

1742
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 2: That what you did was huge. Like I for real, I.

1743
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 4: Never paid no attention to know to Dame women's basketball

1744
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 4: at period, but when you got there, it became a deal.

1745
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 4: And you know, they then obviously went on to do

1746
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 4: some great things to have players after that. But for me,

1747
01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 4: in my mind, it started right there with Skyler Dicken.

1748
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 4: So I want to give you that credit, and y

1749
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 4: I appreciate it.

1750
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:04,640
Speaker 3: You could go back and forth with that because you

1751
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 3: already know what I think about y'all for the culture,

1752
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:10,639
Speaker 3: everything that y'all done. But now it's cool, it's dope,

1753
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 3: and you know, it means something to me because I'm

1754
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 3: from South Bend. So maybe that's why it turned out

1755
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 3: like that, because it was genuine, you know, it's from

1756
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 3: the heart and everything. I really had a passion to

1757
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:23,639
Speaker 3: want people to have some stories like what you just said.

1758
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 3: I didn't really know about this, but I know not

1759
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:28,719
Speaker 3: the dame now. You know, girls didn't want to commit

1760
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 3: to know to day at that time. They want to

1761
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 3: come there now. You know, it's awesome just to see

1762
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 3: the success that it's had, and I want to see

1763
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 3: it flourished. I have no I don't care who's more successful.

1764
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 3: It's like records and things are meant to be broken,

1765
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 3: you know, and I want to see it flourished. I

1766
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 3: already got my hanging up. I'm already immortal in there.

1767
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:48,760
Speaker 3: I already got my back there.

1768
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1769
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 3: I definitely appreciate y'all. Like I said, I appreciate y'all,

1770
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 3: y'all platform. This is like one of my favorite podcasts

1771
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 3: to watch. So I'm happy we were able to make

1772
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:00,639
Speaker 3: it happen.

1773
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 1: I appreciate absolutely, we appreciate it. That was like the

1774
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 1: outro right there.

1775
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 3: He I didn't get want to be I know, like

1776
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 3: I didn't get nothing dope. You know, I didn't have

1777
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 3: a dope that I wish I would have did something

1778
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 3: like a signature or something. But y'all, y'all did that.

1779
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 3: Y'all did that?

1780
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:21,559
Speaker 1: Oh no, you did your thing. Yeah, I'm glad the

1781
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 1: coach even embraced that folk, so we can have even

1782
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:26,800
Speaker 1: like people like you to come up and even see

1783
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 1: that and took that with you, Like, man, that's that's

1784
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 1: dope for us, Like we really really appreciate that, because

1785
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 1: we just want anybody who just said they liked our

1786
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 1: game or like the way we rock, it's definitely a blessing.

1787
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:59,760
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