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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Talking with the John Rhodes on Coast to Coast AM.

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Speaker 2: Then we'll do open lines coming up tomorrow night. I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you more about it later because I want to

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Speaker 2: get right back to this. So we would agree that

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Speaker 2: there are evolutionary needs right which then it changes the

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Speaker 2: pigment of our human skin. Those people living closer to

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Speaker 2: the equator, we see blind of fish in the deepest

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Speaker 2: ocean develop lights on top of their head to attract prey,

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Speaker 2: which then they're able to sense and then eat. It

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Speaker 2: would make no sense for a crocodile or an alligator

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Speaker 2: to develop a light on the top of its head

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Speaker 2: if it didn't produce more food or attract a mate

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Speaker 2: or whatever. So part of me it struggles with this

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Speaker 2: concept of how was it then that these reptoids developed

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Speaker 2: and or continue to flourish under the ground to the

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Speaker 2: point where as you suggest they have evolved. So let's

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Speaker 2: put that aside for now. That having been said, explain

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Speaker 2: what you think the qualitative research that you've done, all

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Speaker 2: of the interviews, the collection of stories, what does it

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Speaker 2: indicate to you about what's going on underneath our feet.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's twofold. I believe we're almost threefold. First of all,

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Speaker 3: we have our own military industrial complex dug in around

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Speaker 3: the planet, and we're talking about thousands of underground bases,

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Speaker 3: just a few, just I'm talking found. And it's not

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Speaker 3: only here in the United States, and some of the

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Speaker 3: other developed countries and perhaps even undeveloped countries they have them.

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Speaker 3: So we use that because our military has learned long

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Speaker 3: time ago the best place to hang out is underground.

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Speaker 3: In World War One, and a lot in World War Two,

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Speaker 3: a lot of the war was fought in underground tunnels

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Speaker 3: and underground basis that the Nazis had. That's one of

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Speaker 3: the things about World War Two we don't see very

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Speaker 3: often in the movies I've got. You know, reports of

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Speaker 3: some of these underground bases are quite large, right, and

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Speaker 3: I agree. For example, I'm going to give you a

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Speaker 3: quick one here. A lot of people don't realize. In

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Speaker 3: the newspaper report of nineteen forty six, in the same

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Speaker 3: Lewis Star and Times, they said that a gentleman by

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Speaker 3: the name of Zantaro Tanaka, he was twenty six Japanese corporal.

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Speaker 3: He is caught in Korea by the Soviets in nineteen

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Speaker 3: four five. He said, I'll read it here. I was

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Speaker 3: blindfold and put it on train. We rode all night.

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Speaker 3: The next day we were unloaded in Emon, and that's

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Speaker 3: the name of the town, if the name of town

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Speaker 3: had actually changed since then. We were hauled into trucks

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Speaker 3: and pointed outside the city, given shovels and put to work.

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Speaker 3: Fifty thousand prisoners were scooping the earth from a gigantic

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Speaker 3: plane there to make an underground airport. There were eighty

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Speaker 3: eight zero radiating runways, each one thousand meters or thirty

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Speaker 3: two hundred and eighty feet in length, and they said

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Speaker 3: about one third of the prisoners died building it. And

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Speaker 3: this was on the Soviet China border. So that gives

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Speaker 3: you an idea in nineteen forty five of the kind

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Speaker 3: of places they were building. Now we're talking about a

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Speaker 3: hub shaped circular airport or military installation that has runways

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Speaker 3: faced in all directions, eighty of them, so they can

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Speaker 3: just fire out aircraft like unbelievable, like the thunderbirds in

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Speaker 3: the old TV shows.

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Speaker 2: Thunderbirds, Yeah, thunderbirds go.

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Speaker 3: So when you hear of that and then you put

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Speaker 3: it together with the fact that ever since then, I've

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Speaker 3: seen I've read newspaper reports talking about large dirigibles in

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Speaker 3: World War Two being restored underground, and large underground hangars.

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Speaker 3: I haven't heard of any of those ever been being

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Speaker 3: discovered or talked about. So we have all kinds of

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Speaker 3: strange things going on underground by our own military. On

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Speaker 3: top of that, we have perhaps extraterrestrials who are visiting

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Speaker 3: the planet, and I just can't I can't seem to

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Speaker 3: reason why they would come such great distances only to

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Speaker 3: Star Trek those guys would set up some sort of

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Speaker 3: watch the inhabitants of the planet and study them. And

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Speaker 3: I believe to some great extent that's also happening. Okay,

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Speaker 3: how long some of these extraterrestrials have been here, I

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Speaker 3: don't know. They may have had generations of them born

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Speaker 3: that could be happening.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's pause that.

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Speaker 4: So the idea of the US.

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Speaker 2: Military or any military around the world building underground bases

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Speaker 2: makes sense, right, I mean, especially because of aerial bombing

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Speaker 2: in World War Two. You know, you went, you went underground,

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Speaker 2: not you know, the Pentagon does not list every installation,

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Speaker 2: and many of them are very intricate to the degree

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Speaker 2: people or a very complex life. I don't know, but

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Speaker 2: they seemed very kind of functional. So they were functional

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Speaker 2: to the point where it could be a plane, it

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Speaker 2: could be a derigible, it could be a train that

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Speaker 2: came in and out, it could be a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: And it was.

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Speaker 4: And there were people.

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Speaker 2: Who were POW's, obviously a lot of Jews. We were

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Speaker 2: forced to dig and build and reinforce these underground bunkers

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Speaker 2: for the Nazis themselves to survive or attempt to win

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Speaker 2: the war, even if it was just for testing organizations.

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Speaker 2: But that still doesn't put me closer to the concept

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Speaker 2: of what's your vision then for these reptilians, what would

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Speaker 2: are you saying they take over the vacant bases. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's what I'm trying to understand. The connection.

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Speaker 3: Really, I believe that we have our own underground basis,

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Speaker 3: but there are also probably very remote locations in which

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Speaker 3: these crafts fly from, also using the underground to shield

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Speaker 3: themselves from being monitored by satellites or anything else. For

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Speaker 3: us to satellights in the sky, we are just automatically

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Speaker 3: assuming that if they outperform our aircraft and people say

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Speaker 3: they're anomalous, that they must come from outside our planet.

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Speaker 3: For another dimension, we have since the nineteen thirties been redirected.

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Speaker 3: Back in the old days, literature used to be filled

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Speaker 3: with Oh, what's living underground? What kind of monsters? What

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Speaker 3: kind of lost civilizations? And all of a sudden the

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Speaker 3: entire subject matter a phenomenon changed and we were looking

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Speaker 3: off our planet. And I really believe that's kind of

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Speaker 3: a form of a distraction, where they say, look off

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Speaker 3: our planet and think about the subject matter. Meanwhile, what's

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Speaker 3: happening here underground on our own planet.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, as I was reading your website again,

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Speaker 2: we're talking with John Rhoades. You can link up to

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Speaker 2: him at costcosdam dot com and go take a look

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Speaker 2: at the stories he's collected in the research that is

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Speaker 2: done on the subject of reptoids, especially those that live

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Speaker 2: in these complicated or sophisticated communities underground.

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Speaker 4: I agree that it's the stuff.

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Speaker 2: I mean, as I was reading, I thought, this is

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Speaker 2: the stuff of Jules vern right, this is this, This

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Speaker 2: is the stuff of H. G. Wells. To name two

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Speaker 2: original authors on subjects like this, so Arthur C.

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Speaker 3: Clark jumping Arthur C. Clark when he wrote his book

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Speaker 3: Childhood's End, he refers to the alien that came down

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Speaker 3: to earth as looking like the devil, and our classical,

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Speaker 3: our classical descriptions of the devil or of a of

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Speaker 3: a reptile talking, and the old descriptions, like I said,

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Speaker 3: are also of them walking.

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Speaker 2: Well, I get that, but remember that the other part

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Speaker 2: of that genesis narrative of which I'm very familiar is

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Speaker 2: that God created all of the creatures in the Garden

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Speaker 2: of without exception. So you know, there is no discussion

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Speaker 2: of a serpentine like creature coming down from Heaven entering

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Speaker 2: one that serpent is the only thing that is mentioned

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Speaker 2: as having the ability to talk or to communicate. But

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Speaker 2: that's again, that's kind of part of the story.

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Speaker 3: Right, That's just kind of part of the story we don't.

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Speaker 3: You know, remember these guys that wrote these religious works

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Speaker 3: of a digestible manner, and the composed. When they composed

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Speaker 3: the Bible, they were basically including all of these myths

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Speaker 3: the common denominators between all of them so they could

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Speaker 3: invite members of other religions over to the Christian religion

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Speaker 3: because oh, oh, you have been babylon what you had

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Speaker 3: a guy that was swallowed by a fish. But we

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Speaker 3: have that story as well.

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Speaker 2: Well, that that predates Christianity though, so right, so, I

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Speaker 2: but to make that point, it wasn't all over the world,

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Speaker 2: it was all over the region that God took different

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Speaker 2: names in different forms, and so this in order to

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Speaker 2: include every group, they're all kind of mashed in there

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Speaker 2: together under the understanding that they're they're different names for

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Speaker 2: the same thing. And so yeah, the Babylonian exile is

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Speaker 2: a good example. You know, there are other myths about Babylonians.

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Speaker 2: There's a other myth but about a giant fish, and

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Speaker 2: no one narrative. I mean, there's also a flood obviously,

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Speaker 2: I mean all sorts of But okay, so we're again,

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that we have small groups of advanced cultures,

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Speaker 3: human and non human living underground, and they feel very

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Speaker 3: well preserved down there. If anything happens, like some sort

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Speaker 3: going to survive because they're underground. I think that most

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Speaker 3: from the environment, from safety from us, because we are

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Speaker 3: one vicious animal species group on the planet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're the most dangerous anyway.

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Speaker 3: What about I read on Facebook someday you know, yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, no, I'm with you there.

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Speaker 2: If we go by social media, we are thus they listen.

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Speaker 3: When the aliens drive past, they lock the doors.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny, all right, So, but so then,

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Speaker 2: but if we're talking about the Truidon and then the

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Speaker 4: What would be the reason?

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Speaker 2: Are you how how is it that that civilization goes

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Speaker 2: on to be so sophisticated as you imagine.

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Speaker 3: Well, I believe it's more. I wouldn't call it sophisticated,

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Speaker 3: because we have sophistication as well. But I think that

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Speaker 3: because of the different brain types, their brains are working

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Speaker 3: completely different than ours. Right, So how we perceive science

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Speaker 3: and what we can learn from it maybe two different things.

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Speaker 3: We have common things we could learn, but also things

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Speaker 3: that are pretty distinct to how our brain is functioning

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Speaker 3: and what allows us to even think. And so when

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Speaker 3: you're talking about sophisticated learning, I've talked to some really

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Speaker 3: really intelligent people at times, you know, who are really sophisticated,

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Speaker 3: and there's others at times that I've talked to that aren't.

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Speaker 3: And it's not so much that they're all sophisticated. I

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Speaker 3: believe that we have some maybe near surface pocket groups

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Speaker 3: of creatures that also answer to the same physical description

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Speaker 3: like that was discovered in nineteen eighty eight down in Bishopville,

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Speaker 3: South Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Which is at which is a great tab on your website.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to tell the story of Bishopville?

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Speaker 3: Well, nineteen eighty eight, a young boy was changing a

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Speaker 3: He jumped in his car, put through the rest of

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Speaker 3: so he was so scared he couldn't talk, and his

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Speaker 3: was wondering what's wrong. They called the Sheriff Truesdale out,

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Speaker 3: and Sheriff Truesdale's always kind of presented it. He's presented

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Speaker 3: as like this local, you know, southern sheriff. But this

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Speaker 3: gentleman was a good friend of mine. He was trained

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Speaker 3: at the FBI courses over with the FBI, so he's

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Speaker 3: had a lot of training behind him, and so he

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Speaker 3: were multiple eyewitnesses that described something that was like a

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Speaker 3: lizard man. He was about seven seven and a half

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Speaker 3: feet tall, had large arms, he had very muscular build.

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Speaker 3: And this was reported by several people. And in the

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Speaker 3: end of the entire years and years of going through

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Speaker 3: these different cases where people said their cars were kind

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Speaker 3: some of these may have been hoaxes, but some of

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Speaker 3: them certainly weren't. Because when the gentleman, when the young

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Speaker 3: boy was brought into the station, he passed lie detector

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Speaker 3: tests twice, okay about what he had seen, right, And

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Speaker 3: you know, to mister Truesdale died just recently, and he

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Speaker 3: said to me, no matter what's going on, he says,

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Speaker 3: it's not normal. And he says, in those swamps in there,

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Speaker 3: nobody can get in they're so thick. He said, So

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Speaker 3: you could have anything living in those swamps, deep in

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Speaker 3: the same kind of thing where people have gone down

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Speaker 3: be Bigfoot. Because people are fully invested in their research,

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Speaker 3: so they'll try and go into other areas where it's

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Speaker 3: the drawings and everything that's described as talking about reptilian humanoid.

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Speaker 3: But they come down to say, no, it must have

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Speaker 3: been Bigfoot because that's what they know, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's confirmation bias. What do you what's the

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Speaker 2: image then that you have in your head that you

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Speaker 2: think is closest to what this guy had in Bishopville?

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Speaker 3: Oh, you mean as far as in the social media?

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Speaker 4: What it looks like? What it looks like?

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Speaker 3: I mean, okay, I can give you a physical description. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: talking about we're talking about beings that are on average tright.

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Speaker 3: The ones that have been seen have been about anywhere

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Speaker 3: from six and a half to about seven and a

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Speaker 3: half to eight foot tall, large muscular arms and legs.

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Speaker 3: They have scales across their body. The scales on their

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Speaker 3: chest are more broad like plates. Their head is large,

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Speaker 3: it's got a little bit of a crown on the top,

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Speaker 3: kind of like a gorilla, and they have no hair.

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Speaker 3: Their eyes are almond shaped. Their pupils have cat like

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Speaker 3: eyes with vertical slip pupils. Their hands have three fingers

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Speaker 3: with an opposing thumb, and their feet seem to have

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Speaker 3: a raised like a dew claw or you know, thumb

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Speaker 3: I guess there's an atrophyte thumb way up near where

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Speaker 3: we have our ankle bone. And they also have no

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Speaker 3: lips and no ears, so they might have a kind

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Speaker 3: of a crustal type ear, maybe a scale or something

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Speaker 3: over where normal ears are. But the mouth has absolutely

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Speaker 3: no no lips all. It's just a very wide mouth,

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