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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 1: Morning everybody, it's the j Envy, just hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.

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Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club. We got some special legends

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Speaker 1: in the building. Yes, and we got the brother Common

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Speaker 1: and the brother Pete Rock. Well, I'm feeling, man, this

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Speaker 1: is breakfast.

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Speaker 3: This is a beautiful day man for us to like

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Speaker 3: have a new album and just be together creating music.

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Speaker 4: Man, I ain't gonna front. I was last night.

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Speaker 3: I was just like taking things in like, man, it's

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Speaker 3: spent some years of making music, ups and downs, and

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Speaker 3: to be here like just releasing new music and the

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Speaker 3: fact that some people niggas see me on the street,

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Speaker 3: like yo, when that new pet Rock joint coming out

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Speaker 3: of that, I ain't had that in a long time.

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Speaker 3: So I ain't gonna front. I'm feeling like just blessing

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Speaker 3: on a high, man, just a spiritual high.

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Speaker 1: You be on the street, and this is how hip

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Speaker 1: hop is. If you try to battle Common in anything

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Speaker 1: on the street, it don't matter if it's dancing, if

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Speaker 1: it's rapping, if it's graffiti. He is to the four.

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Speaker 5: And he participated, He participated in a don't matter.

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Speaker 1: He is spending on his back, like I know it's

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Speaker 1: back hurt.

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Speaker 4: After that, Yo, my team be tripping because we was

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Speaker 4: in the prison. Man.

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Speaker 3: We was, you know, doing some prison work, and this

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Speaker 3: girl wanted to battle me and break dancing. And the

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Speaker 3: girl was like, Yo, she could break dance. She's gonna

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Speaker 3: get you. I was like, okay, So she started doing

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Speaker 3: her little poplocking.

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Speaker 4: Man. I went down and there some windmill.

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Speaker 3: It was like it was like, you ain't gonna let

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Speaker 3: the girl in prison be too, and I'm a competitor.

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Speaker 6: The new album is The Auditorium of All One, produced

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Speaker 6: entirely by by Pete rop Up. Why why is King

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Speaker 6: s theter to cover for this project?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 3: We wanted to once we got the title the Auditorium,

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Speaker 3: we wanted a dope a dope theater and a dope auditory.

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Speaker 3: We heard about different ones and I looked at king Theatre.

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Speaker 3: Somebody from my team sent sent it to me Nicole,

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Speaker 3: and I was like, Yo, that's it. And I was like, man,

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Speaker 3: are they gonna fit it within the budget? And for

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Speaker 3: a second I called I called my my agent, Mary

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Speaker 3: who books my shows, and I was like, yo, can

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Speaker 3: you help us to get King's Theatre She was like,

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Speaker 3: I'm going there, Tom, I'm gonna get it.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna get it. I talked to them and then

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Speaker 4: I went up there. Yo.

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Speaker 3: I went up there on my own, just went knocked

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Speaker 3: on the door like hey, y'all, you know, we want

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Speaker 3: to shoot a cover.

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Speaker 4: Me and Pete Rock and the dude.

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Speaker 3: The security let me in and was like talking to

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Speaker 3: the person like, yo, comment is right here, asking me

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Speaker 3: could I get So it ended up yo, charlam Mane.

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Speaker 3: It ended up being like, man, this was divine order

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Speaker 3: because you know when we was taking those pictures and

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Speaker 3: it said King Theater, I was like, this is dope

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Speaker 3: and this you know, they've had like a lot of

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Speaker 3: historic it's in Brooklyn, they had a lot of historic

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Speaker 3: performances and Diana Ross reopened that spot and actually your

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Speaker 3: failure wife was lived around that area, so it was

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Speaker 3: a lot of tie ins and even just shooting the cover,

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Speaker 3: Pete and I was like, man, we ain't shot an

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Speaker 3: album cover in a minute where you're going through that

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Speaker 3: experience of taking shots and just you know, it was

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Speaker 3: it was dope, man, so so so salute to the

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Speaker 3: King the Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So how did you get back together? Hey, how do

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Speaker 1: y'all decide to do what album? What was that conversation, like,

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Speaker 1: what do y'all meet your world's meeting and say, let's

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Speaker 1: do this.

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Speaker 2: We've been wanting to do it since, you know. We

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Speaker 2: did the ice Cube joint and then we did the

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Speaker 2: Sol Survivor album for Loud when I was signed Loud

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Speaker 2: and he wrapped on the joint with Nori and Pun.

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Speaker 2: But I'm skipping a whole bunch. But we met in

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety right.

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Speaker 3: Somewhere around the night because I ain't come out to

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Speaker 3: ninety two, so around then in the early nineties, and.

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Speaker 2: That's when I, you know, start traveling, moving around doing

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Speaker 2: promo tours. Somehow we linked up when we met and

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Speaker 2: I ate his mom's cooking because he brought me to

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Speaker 6: Brow did you ever catch any static for producing?

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Speaker 3: Not really, not really, but you know, yo, but Pete

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Speaker 3: one of the only producers that was open to doing it.

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Speaker 3: Even even my great brother know I Di didn't want

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Speaker 3: to get involved just because you know, it just was

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Speaker 3: a lot of a lot going on. So man, Pete

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Speaker 3: was like I've been saying that rhyme out for a

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Speaker 3: minute and Pete and I reached out to Pete and

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Speaker 3: he was like, he took me out to Mount Vernon

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Speaker 3: and he said it was me in black thoughts. He said,

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Speaker 3: I was heated at the time, but you know, but then.

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Speaker 2: You answered the question turned to calm him down, like

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I was.

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Speaker 3: I mean, but I was. I was in the state

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Speaker 3: where I just wanted to man. I was like, damn, man,

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Speaker 3: I got this like this much. I was ready to

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Speaker 3: Q but uh, you know, it's all love now, so

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Speaker 3: I ain't. I ain't dwelling too deep into it, but

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Speaker 3: I say that, man, he gave me that beat and

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Speaker 3: I was like, Yo, this beating, this is this is

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Speaker 3: what I need for this song. And that was the

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Speaker 3: first joint we ever did. Just went made it in

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Speaker 3: Robbo's basement, his guy's basement. I was like, man, this dude,

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Speaker 3: he came through for me. We've been brothers ever since.

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Speaker 3: And this came about because man, it was a lot

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Speaker 3: like last year, I really like understood how important hip

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Speaker 3: much people still value it like that. I think it

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Speaker 3: was going to like all the hip hop celebrations like

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Speaker 3: going like this the fiftieth year. I remember being in

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Speaker 3: a Yankee Stadium and I performed at that show. It

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Speaker 3: was NAS and Lauryn Hill, E PMD, run DMC, Man,

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Speaker 3: Mob Deep, BT Joe like it was. I stood in

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Speaker 3: And I was like, man, and saw like the Yankee

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Speaker 4: And it made me it just it reaffirmed that, man,

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Speaker 3: And I was like, damn, you know people are paying

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Speaker 3: attention to the lyrics even more, like because I've done

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Speaker 3: certain I've done.

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Speaker 4: Music and people don't even know I put the music out.

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Speaker 3: But when I get on to do a freestyle of

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Speaker 3: SOMETHINGE my homies hitting me up about Yo, you heard

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Speaker 3: Jay Cole on this, or you heard you know like

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Speaker 3: or you know of course the battle with Kendrick and Drake.

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Speaker 3: They like, YO, listen to these lyrics. To me, it

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Speaker 4: So like I'd always wanted to connect with Pete, I

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Speaker 4: didn't know it would be a whole project. I said, Yo,

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Speaker 4: let's see what's up?

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Speaker 2: You do? You knew?

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Speaker 6: How did you know? Pete?

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Speaker 2: Because I was like, nah, we're doing that, yeah, straight up,

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Speaker 2: Boguard Bully like yo, yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean but he delivered on the.

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Speaker 6: Your production is so stellar and it's still soul stella,

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Speaker 6: And I was wondering, you have these beats in the

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Speaker 6: stash or did you make these purposely for common in

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Speaker 6: this past.

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Speaker 2: I had some in the stash and maybe made some recently,

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Speaker 2: but they were all done. And then you know, I

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Speaker 2: just took a whole bunch and start sending it to him.

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Speaker 2: Well he came to the crib for us. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: then you know, he sat down and I started playing beans.

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Speaker 2: He was like, yep, yep, yep, that one, that one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but he also was sending it. But you also was

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Speaker 2: sending me records too like that.

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Speaker 3: And that's a process that you know, I haven't been

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Speaker 4: He's about to sample for me.

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Speaker 3: Pete was sending these these records and I was like, yo, yo,

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Speaker 3: that's it right there, you know, like loop that and

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Speaker 3: and to be a part of that process, it's like

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Speaker 3: a creative thing. I feel like that's how you can

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Speaker 3: just us like just making music to be hones. As

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Speaker 3: soon as I got the piece crib, we started talking

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Speaker 4: You know, it's energy. Energy.

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Speaker 3: Energy is like and that got intuition is one of

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Speaker 3: like we both.

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Speaker 4: Would put our heart and souls into it.

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Speaker 3: And I was noticing that his sound was fresh, it

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Speaker 3: wasn't liked.

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Speaker 2: No, I just took what we did from back in

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Speaker 2: the day and just kind of mixed it in with

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Speaker 2: what's going on today, you know, and we want to

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Speaker 2: we want to rock with the young.

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Speaker 1: I was going to ask, you know, the celebration last year,

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Speaker 1: of the fiftieth celebration, it seemed like it made people

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Speaker 1: respect hip hop again, and not just the newer artist

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Speaker 1: the older artists. Well, because I'm seeing a lot of

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Speaker 1: the ogi's back on tour and I'm seeing this show

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Speaker 1: sold out, people, have you guys with.

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Speaker 4: This that bro I was.

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Speaker 3: I was on that LL Force tour with the Roots

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Speaker 3: for a second, and I did different cities.

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Speaker 4: Cleveland, Chicago, Detroit.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, Yo, it's people here like coming in their outfits,

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Speaker 3: like celebrating this music and El's doing like songs that

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Speaker 3: ain't even hit, like hits from his album like one

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Speaker 3: nine hundred l and people rocking to it. Us shit

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Speaker 3: was dope, and that like all that was. I agree

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Speaker 3: that we celebrated the culture. And what made me feel

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Speaker 3: good was like we celebrated ourselves. We ain't have to

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Speaker 3: like wait for it, wait for somebody else to determine

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Speaker 3: what this was. It was like, man, we celebrating ourselves,

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Speaker 3: and it just to me, we ain't know when we

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Speaker 3: were Like when I first started rhyming, I ain't know, like, damn, man,

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Speaker 3: could I could be rhyming? I'm fifty two years old,

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm rhyming like and I'm still and I

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Speaker 1: Because some of the kicks in the stairs, when you

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Speaker 6: To don't I don't like?

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Speaker 2: I like, yeah, nage, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: And then when I hear it. There's certain new artists

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Speaker 3: That man, that would be like to hear them, dudes

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Speaker 2: And sometimes I think of DJs like Jay Rock shout

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Speaker 1: And now when you heard the Drake and Kendrick Beef right,

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Speaker 4: That's what I do.

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Speaker 3: But I was I was already enthused about writing, just

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Speaker 4: So when I heard the battle.

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Speaker 4: Chicago's get mad at me for saying that Ron is

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Speaker 2: That's the party.

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Speaker 4: Well, I actually some of those dreams definitely happened.

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Speaker 4: Like I was like, let me be.

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Speaker 2: Okay? Because I told him, have comes to me in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like, you know, the ancestors speak to

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Speaker 6: Those same dreams. I just wonder what are they trying

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Speaker 3: Feel I feel like I feel like like they definitely

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Speaker 4: You know the.

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Speaker 1: was party records, it was street records. But you did

437
00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,040
Speaker 1: a record as a reminisce, as a dedication record. What

438
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,199
Speaker 1: was the mind framing? What was the labels feeling of

439
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,040
Speaker 1: putting that record out of all because that's one of

440
00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,960
Speaker 1: the most classic records out there.

441
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,720
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna start off saying I was depressed. You know,

442
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,760
Speaker 2: I was really depressed because you know, we lost on

443
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 2: a block general too. He was like, he taught me

444
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,280
Speaker 2: how to fight, taught me this to me, and so

445
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:18,399
Speaker 2: when we lost him, like, oh so when we lost him,

446
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,879
Speaker 2: you know, the whole community was was was crazy. So

447
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,520
Speaker 2: I went somehow found the strength to go dig through

448
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 2: records and I found this record and listened to the

449
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 2: whole thing. And when I listened to the whole thing,

450
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,119
Speaker 2: I got emotional, start crying, and I said that was

451
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 2: a sign to say, yo, try to do something with this,

452
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And so that's what I did.

453
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 2: And I heard these elements in the song, and that

454
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 2: drove me to make the beat Man, you know what

455
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,479
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And when I heard that, Sacks knew it

456
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 2: was it. That was it. I was like, no, hook, no, nothing,

457
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,439
Speaker 2: just rocked that horn. Did cel have that that lyrics

458
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 2: already done?

459
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 4: Really?

460
00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:01,199
Speaker 2: And he just all he did was like change a

461
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 2: few things, but he I can't. When I gave him

462
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,639
Speaker 2: the bad Or. He had the lyrics, but he just

463
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 2: changed some few.

464
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 4: Things to come into the word trow.

465
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 6: How did you feel when you first heard that acronym

466
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 6: that's like you reminisce over you.

467
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 2: That was real clever of cl for him to come

468
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 2: up with that title. You know what I'm saying, That

469
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 2: was that was crazy to spell out my man's name

470
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,360
Speaker 2: and how that title is. It's this magic was happening

471
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,959
Speaker 2: for us, Bro, you know what I'm saying, Like everything

472
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 2: was coming together.

473
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 1: And did the label want that record out at first

474
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,640
Speaker 1: that they knew what it was because it was yep.

475
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 2: Because when we finished it, Charlie Brown was in the

476
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 2: studio a couple other homies and we listened to it

477
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 2: and we crying like this is I had to leave

478
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 2: the room, Bro, because the music was it was it was.

479
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 2: It was that touching.

480
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 1: That song still does that to people, like people remember

481
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 1: their parents, their grandparents, their loved ones when that song

482
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 1: comes out. Remember so we hear that he like Jesus.

483
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,400
Speaker 6: And we're thirty three years old.

484
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 2: And he'll being talked about it. Marvel Dad, I'm grateful.

485
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 6: For you know, we don't give you credit for to

486
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 6: p rock Man always putting dark Skin brothers in the

487
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 6: pop that title Come on, come on?

488
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 2: Can you.

489
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 6: At some point?

490
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 4: Yes?

491
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 1: Coming?

492
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 5: You know what I don't give you back?

493
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 4: Then you can't live? Can we leave heavy?

494
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 2: He was very talented and coming up with names. He

495
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 2: gave his name, gave Pete, gave me well his brother,

496
00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 2: my cousin, Floyd, gave me Pete Rock. And he have

497
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 2: taught me a lot about like bridges and songs, you know,

498
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 2: like just how to structure a song a hit song.

499
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 2: And then it stuck with me. You know what I'm

500
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 2: saying because he was the first one to notice my talents.

501
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 2: He was like, yo, you got something. But he's saying

502
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 2: to bring that.

503
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 3: Out, He's saying, who is still that that that black black,

504
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 3: like that black pride.

505
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 4: Like as a as a as a chocolate confidence?

506
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 2: For me? Yeah, oh, I mean you know what I'm saying,

507
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 2: Like I had the talent, you know, you know I

508
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 2: thought I was decent looking as a as a black man. Yes,

509
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 2: I just rolled man.

510
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, we come from that era. We come from the

511
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 6: black and proud you know, like even when I listened

512
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 6: to you know, on on a God, you know, like

513
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 6: you say that there's a god in the spirit of you,

514
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 6: And I was like, damn. You know, growing up we

515
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 6: had the five percent teachers. We constantly heard that, and

516
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 6: it felt good to hear it, because we don't hear that.

517
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 4: No man man.

518
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 3: The more and more I understand why we greet each

519
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 3: other as God like in peace when we say peace,

520
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 3: God like. I first received that just through hip hop

521
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 3: because of the five percent Nation and New Yorkers like

522
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 3: brought that to us and we were just saying it,

523
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 3: and I liked it.

524
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 4: Just because it felt good.

525
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 3: But the more I understand how much God is in us,

526
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 3: it's like it should be said, and we need to

527
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 3: acknowledge that. And even you know, you can look in

528
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 3: the Bible and it talks about you know, the God,

529
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 3: that Christ being in you, you know, and you being

530
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 3: christ like or you know that we year are all God.

531
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 3: So I'm like, when you start putting together a lot

532
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 3: of thoughts about spirituality, almost all of them teach you

533
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 3: that the Creator is in you too, and you one

534
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 3: with the Creator. So I love that I got that

535
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 3: from hip hop and got even more of an understanding

536
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 3: because I grew up going to church, so got even

537
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 3: more of understanding what it is through you know through

538
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 3: putting that together, and now when if I'm at church

539
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 3: or if I'm around people who are like really like

540
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 3: into just religion, I still can approach them and express

541
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 3: to them to God and them.

542
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 6: You know, you got a lie on that song you

543
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 6: said my testimony came from all the testing.

544
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 4: Yes, on that a little bit. Man.

545
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 3: I feel like anything that really can talk about from

546
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 3: a pure and like a place that resonates it is

547
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 3: because I've experienced some things in life, and you know,

548
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 3: I experienced things like we all do with that human testing.

549
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 4: That thing of going through.

550
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 3: Things is what allows us to really connect and and

551
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 3: that's why I could tell a story I didn't even know,

552
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 3: Like when I first started rapping up, I wrapped about

553
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 3: abortion in one of my songs early on, and this

554
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 3: dude came up to me and was like, man, I

555
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 3: decided to have my child because of your song Retrospect for.

556
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 4: Life with Lauren Hill.

557
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 3: And my point is, like I was telling him that

558
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 3: was my testimony and me telling what I had been through,

559
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 3: and it affected him enough to make a decision with

560
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 3: his wife to have a child. And I'm just saying, like, man,

561
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 3: we got to go through things to have a testimony

562
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 3: that that really means something and resonates. I ain't saying

563
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 3: you go out there to try to suffer, but you know,

564
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 3: life gives you things, and it's the way we deal

565
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 3: with it and overcome it and move through it, and.

566
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 4: What builds character that will allow us to be Like Yo.

567
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 3: When I'm sitting down with people, they listen because they

568
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 3: know I've been through something, you know.

569
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 4: So that's the testimony.

570
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: Do y'all think people respect the legacies that you two

571
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: guys have put out? Like I look at other genres

572
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: of music, right, and they respect the elder men right,

573
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: the young to the old right. And I'm just remembering

574
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: as the best thing about it is, I was such

575
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: a young DJ that didn't know too many people. So

576
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: I remember getting the common Wax. I remember getting the

577
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: record it said remixed by Pete Rock, and I remember

578
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: what that feeling meant. I remember when no disrespect to

579
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: run DMC, where they fell off a little bit and

580
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: then they did down with the kids, and I remember

581
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: all of that. Do you think people understand the legacy

582
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: that you guys have built and put into this game?

583
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: We would want them to understand because we put a

584
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: lot of hard work into you know, because when they

585
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: when I didn't run the MC, you know what I'm saying,

586
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 2: It was like, Damn, I'm gonna bring these dudes back.

587
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: They were trying to come back, that nothing was hitting

588
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: for them.

589
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I had to convince Russell and Lea

590
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 2: and that I could do this. I'm the man for this,

591
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 2: and then had Jams j with me. He came to

592
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 2: my crib. We worked on it and got what we got.

593
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 2: So hopefully that's a story that they could listen to

594
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 2: and learn from and understand the legacy of what we

595
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 2: did to make it what it is today. And so

596
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 2: even the video, everybody was in it.

597
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: It was one of the most videos. Yes, sir, Easy.

598
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 2: Easy, he was in it. Rest in peace.

599
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 4: You know what that.

600
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 6: Record work because they weren't trying to be anything except

601
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 6: for what they were at the time, which was Kings

602
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 6: of the Game. Yes, forefathers of the game.

603
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 2: You know, I was I was in the clouds because

604
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe I just did this, you know what

605
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like brought them back from what was the album?

606
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: Back from hell was the I'm that.

607
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: They weren't messing with each other at the time it was.

608
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: It was thinking, I just remember that.

609
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 6: And who wrote that?

610
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: I think, did you write that for?

611
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 6: Who wrote that?

612
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: Somebody for for Down to King?

613
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the album was Down with the King.

614
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but as far as writing, I have no idea.

615
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 6: Somebody wrote that from wrong?

616
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

617
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, you don't want to go back to honor God

618
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 6: because you know you got Jennifer Jennifer Hudson on the record.

619
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 6: How is it asking your lady for a future? And

620
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 6: does she charge you?

621
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 4: Well, let me say this, it was definitely.

622
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 3: It kind of just came pure because I was playing

623
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 3: the record and I had the rhyme and Peter sent

624
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 3: me the beat and I loved this beat and then

625
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: I thought it was Aretha Franklin, a sample from Aretha Franklin.

626
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 3: And I asked p and he like, na, that ain't

627
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: Aretha Franklin. And Jennifer heard and it was like, man,

628
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 3: that is incredible, Like that's out of all the beats

629
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 3: I was playing, and She's like, that's that's my favorite, right,

630
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 3: and it's just man. I was like, damn, this kind

631
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 3: of give you that soul for Wretha. Jennifer played a

632
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 3: wreatha in a movie and I can tell she was

633
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 3: inspired by it.

634
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 4: I was like, yo, I'm I'm gonna get her to

635
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 4: sing on it.

636
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 3: But I first, after you know, I had the verses

637
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 3: in the subject matter. I wanted PJ, who is an

638
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 3: incredible artist and writer. PJ is super dope.

639
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 4: You know.

640
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's from North Carolina. It's just super dope. But

641
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 3: I had her write the hook. And then also I

642
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 3: was like, I want Jennifer to sing kind of what

643
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 3: the sample is doing.

644
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 4: And I was like, what's up? You want to do that?

645
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 3: She was like yes, yes because she was excited to

646
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 3: do it. And uh, you know, ain't no charge. It

647
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 3: to be a fair exchange, I'll do do something.

648
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: You know, no.

649
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 4: I give you.

650
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: You know, I want to ask to you know, how

651
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: do you deal with the criticism? Like you you you've

652
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: dated women in the industry that was and sometimes people.

653
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: Go at them.

654
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: How do you deal with that? Being their man? But

655
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: you also know that this is the entertainment world.

656
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I try to do my best. Do my

657
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:10,239
Speaker 4: best too.

658
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,959
Speaker 3: When I'm like in a relationship, a partnership that is

659
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 3: with somebody public which has happened up, it's I just

660
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 3: try to make sure we stay as sacred as possible

661
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: with us, and like I try to build, make sure

662
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 3: we build together and have our own like foundation, because

663
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 3: once people start talking, it can it can distract you,

664
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 3: it can get you off, it could discourage you. But

665
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 3: if you got the foundation and know what y'all purpose

666
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: to do, you know, And that's I guess any relationship.

667
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 3: But for me, that's what's been like dealing with the

668
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 3: publicity of the stuff. And you know, you feel something

669
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 3: if somebody attacking somebody you care about, you love, you

670
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 3: want to you're gonna defend them.

671
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 4: You want to defend them.

672
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: But you know, I try not to get caught up

673
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 3: too much into what people talking about the relationship, especially

674
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 3: if it ain't true, and if it is true that

675
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 3: it wasn't.

676
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 4: Supposed to be out there like that. So we got

677
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 4: to result at within the house.

678
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: Like if somebody criticizes her show, for instance, right and

679
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: then you got to do an interview, it's like it.

680
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 6: Got her colm and got a great roster.

681
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: I would never talk about it, like, you know, so

682
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: how do you deal with that because you might just

683
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: want to say, you know what, I ain't like what

684
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: he said. I'm gonna talk to him later on so

685
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: how do you deal with that? But then you also know,

686
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: like this is the entertainment industry and I gotta let

687
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: it go. But people, you know, I always say people

688
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: sometimes people think common is sweet, right, and I know

689
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: common and sweet.

690
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 6: On stage and then walked in the crowd smack somebody

691
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 6: and did not stop freestyle.

692
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,719
Speaker 4: That was back there, like we said, light skinning, just

693
00:31:58,720 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 4: go back down.

694
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: How do you deal with that part of it now?

695
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 3: But for me, man, like when people criticize your work, man,

696
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: you can't really take that too personal.

697
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 4: Like I get criticized all the time.

698
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 3: You know, I got called out for wearing crochet, you know,

699
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: like I just you got to know who you are,

700
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 3: and like if you put out like I put out music,

701
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 3: people like, man, this what is this?

702
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 4: Like I can't take that personal. So I apply that

703
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 4: with her.

704
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 3: Like if somebody's talking about her show, they don't like

705
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 3: the show, I understand, you know, that's what they that's

706
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 3: what they feel. But if somebody get in disrespect her space,

707
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 3: that's a different thing. Like just like it's different than

708
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 3: criticizing on you know, the work we do than it

709
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 3: is like disrespecting the space of a person. So that's

710
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 3: how I feel, but the show is doing excellent, bro,

711
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 3: So I'm happy for her and I'm grateful she on

712
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 3: the hood.

713
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 6: How do you feel when you look back at the

714
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 6: Electric Circus Time come? Because I think about like, you know,

715
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 6: people ask the lots about the shiny suit. What do

716
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 6: you look when you look at Circus Time? What do

717
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 6: you think?

718
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 4: I think?

719
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 3: I think Electric Circuits was like it was a big

720
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 3: step from my career in a way that those people

721
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 3: didn't receive it at that time. You know, as an artist,

722
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: you gotta go places just out of courage and being

723
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 3: truthful with where you are to have a career in

724
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 3: a way, because if I kept doing the same thing

725
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 3: after a certain period, people are like, Okay, that's just

726
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 3: the same thing.

727
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 4: But because because I've had.

728
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: Like the ups and downs and it's not been always

729
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 3: accepted or popular, I think people will understand that that's the.

730
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 4: Ebbs and flows of life.

731
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 3: And I look at you know, sometimes people come to

732
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 3: me about that album and be like that's my favorite

733
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 3: album you did or or they felt they'll be like, man,

734
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 3: that album grew on me eventually. I remember Primo told

735
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 3: me that, like we was on tour Gang Start. He

736
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: was like you know, I ain't like that album, but

737
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 3: when you started performing it, I was into it. And

738
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 3: I feel like sometimes that's what art is. Everybody ain't

739
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 3: gonna love it. At one point, I used to didn't

740
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 3: like Jimmy Hendricks. My cousin used to play them and

741
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: I'll be like, man, why you playing this? Don't be

742
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 3: playing that? And then eventually like I'm working at Jimmy

743
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 3: Hendrick studio, I'm listening to Jimmy Hendrick's music and I'm like, yo,

744
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 3: this John is amazing. See he got some amazing music.

745
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 3: So I feel like some people can grow into it.

746
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 3: Some people will never like it. I was a mere quest.

747
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 3: Love hit me about a few years ago when they

748
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 3: put it as one of the best like albums that

749
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 3: was underrated and blah blah blah. Like see, I told

750
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 3: you so, you just gotta you just gotta put music,

751
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 3: put the music out that you truly feel.

752
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 4: Well.

753
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 6: I was talking more about the clothes, because you brought

754
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 6: it to Crochet. What did the Queen Eric Well? I

755
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 6: heard that had you dressing like that? Because I love

756
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 6: when the internet, this new era finds old stuff and

757
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 6: that's what they.

758
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 3: Say, well, see this is this is the thing Erica

759
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 3: is very influential, but not influential enough to say, dressed

760
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 3: like this and I.

761
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,959
Speaker 4: Would do it. I'm a man like, I'm I'm gonna

762
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 4: put on what I like. Everybody may like as they want.

763
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 3: When your lady be like, oh you look good, feel

764
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 3: good about that. But I am not going to my

765
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 3: lady like is this one right?

766
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 4: Or that?

767
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I might ask that, but nobody's gonna say, yo,

768
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 3: where this wear this? And and she you know, that's

769
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 3: a powerful woman. She's amazing, incredible human being too and

770
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 3: just man, just one of the greatest. But as far

771
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 3: as dressing me, no.

772
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 6: Not the record I love when the new album the

773
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 6: Auditorium Shytown do it? Wow, are you talking about an

774
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 6: actual woman or is that a love letter to the city,

775
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 6: because because in a way, the whole album feels like

776
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 6: a love letter to Chicago. But on that particular song,

777
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 6: is that a real woman or the Chicago?

778
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm actually going between a particular woman and

779
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 3: just like just rhyming and and it is love to Chicago.

780
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 3: I kind of felt like within the writing of it,

781
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 3: I wanted to do all those things. And I'm glad

782
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 3: you said that because it was the album for me

783
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 3: does have the love letter to Chicago and a love

784
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 3: letter to hip hop the way we love and with

785
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 3: Pete being from New York me being from the shop,

786
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, I got.

787
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: To bring my Chicago to Brooklyn.

788
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he had yeah originally on that on that

789
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 3: record he had he had simple being saying Brooklyn, do

790
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 3: it Brooklyn.

791
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 4: I was like, Pete, I love Brooklyn. I love Brooklyn,

792
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 4: New York York. You know I live in Brooklyn. But

793
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 4: now bro I'm representing Chicago all day. So there that

794
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 4: is a love letter to to Chicago. But also like

795
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 4: I'm kind of referencing a woman like, you know, like

796
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 4: she knew me from the city, knew I was witty,

797
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 4: knew I had power and maybe some sense lie fitty.

798
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, how do you how do you tap into that

799
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 6: Chicago energy all these years later? You know you've been

800
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 6: all over the world. How do you tap into that energy?

801
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 4: Man?

802
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 3: You know I used to go I used to like

803
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 3: because when I first moved from Chicago moved to New York,

804
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: then I would be New York l A and go home.

805
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 3: I used to just go home, rent cards and just

806
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 3: go around to be with my homies, like just let's

807
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 3: sit down and watch the game, Let's go to this bar,

808
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 3: let's do it like That's what I did in the

809
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 3: in the early two thousands. Now in my life, I

810
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 3: got so many things going on there. I got a

811
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 3: school called Art in Motion in Chicago, which is an

812
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 3: art school, and then I also had a Common Ground Foundation,

813
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 3: and we got something called Free to Dream. All those

814
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,439
Speaker 3: things are happening. But to be I'm gonna be real

815
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: real with you, Like having a lady that's from Chicago

816
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 3: allow me to go home and just be home, and

817
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 3: I hadn't did that in a while, where I was

818
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 3: just like going home and just being around my loved

819
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 3: ones and didn't have no work to do, and that, man,

820
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 3: ain't gonna front. That helped me with this album because

821
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 3: just going to your roots, you gotta always like recharge.

822
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 4: And replug and plug into them roots.

823
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 3: No matter how much you've elevated, you still gotta go

824
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 3: to them roots. And just I mean, to me, growth

825
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 3: is about starting and growing from the roots. So me

826
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 3: going back to Chicago all these times just for regular shit,

827
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 3: it just, man, just helped me stay rooted in what

828
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 3: I do and who I am. I'm referencing certain Chicago things,

829
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 3: And I'm like, that's what I used to do. That's

830
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 3: what I did on Resurrection. That's what I did. I

831
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 3: wasn't trying to like because I seen the world. I

832
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: wasn't because I seen the world. I was referencing other things.

833
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 3: But to be able to go back home and reference things.

834
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 3: We used to do that a lot of hip hop.

835
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 3: That's how I knew what Queens was about because what

836
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 3: Nives was talking about. I knew what what Brooklyn was about,

837
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 3: because what Jay and Biggie was talking about. Knew what

838
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 3: Hollan was talking was about because of your dim set

839
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 3: and all them guys. So yeah, so I feel like

840
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 3: that's what I wanted to give to Chicago. Again.

841
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 6: That sounds like you might get married. Like that sound

842
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 6: like you're building a real foundation.

843
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I mean this is definitely with all

844
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 3: due respect to all the women I've dated, you know,

845
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 3: because they all it's all love. But this is a

846
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 3: really healthy and beautiful relationship, bro. And like I'm just

847
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 3: doing my best key God first and communicating. Taking all

848
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 3: the stuff I've learned as a as a human being,

849
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 3: the failures I've had in relationships from on my responsibility.

850
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 3: I'm taking that, learning from that, growing from it, using

851
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 3: all the therapy, all the all the you know, understanding

852
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: that man, let me enjoy moments. And also this life

853
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 3: is about trying to not trying, but creating happiness and

854
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 3: creating joy and creating love and and like embracing the

855
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 3: grace that exists.

856
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 4: So this is somebody and it's something man.

857
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,479
Speaker 3: You kind of when you're with somebody who's from where

858
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 3: you're from, it's a different kind of connection to that's

859
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 3: that's something else.

860
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 4: But I mean, she's from where I'm from.

861
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 3: Spiritually, she's from where I'm from from like from where

862
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 3: we geographically come from the shot and you know, just

863
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 3: from where I'm from as a person.

864
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 4: Like one of the.

865
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 3: Things that I felt was before we even started was together.

866
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 3: We were doing this movie and this security guard said

867
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 3: to me, he was I came to the set. He

868
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 3: was like, man, you and Jennifer Husson two are the

869
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 3: coolest celebrities I ever met.

870
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 2: Man.

871
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 3: I was like, for real, He's like, no, y'all real cool.

872
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 3: And he was like, she just bought this ice cream

873
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 3: for all these people here on the set. And I

874
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 3: was like, man, I just like people to treat people good.

875
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 3: That's probably home too for me. So yeah, I mean

876
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 3: she is she she there.

877
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: You seem the happiest.

878
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 6: You want to get mad? Sounds like to me.

879
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 3: I mean, if I'm going to get married, it's to her. Wow,

880
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 3: that's simple as that.

881
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: And I see Pete Rock smiling every time you talk

882
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: about her.

883
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 5: You might know something we don't know.

884
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't like it. I like it

885
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 2: to see them, you know what I'm saying together If

886
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: it makes me feel good.

887
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 6: Talk to me about the three wise men that visited

888
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 6: you visited you on the record?

889
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 4: Wise up?

890
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 6: Who do those three wise men represent?

891
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 4: Man?

892
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 3: I was really when I wrote that, I was thinking,

893
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 3: three wise men came to visit where I've been. They

894
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 3: brought gifts with the south Side blend. I wanted these

895
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 3: wise men to have like all the the godly attributes

896
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 3: that you hear about three wise men.

897
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.

898
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 3: I wanted them like because I mean, I really was

899
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 3: writing that because a lot of people that I've met

900
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 3: that are some of the most enlightened and spiritual people

901
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 3: are real niggas, you know, and they real people, real men,

902
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,439
Speaker 3: real black real women. And I was like, man, it's

903
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 3: depth to these human beings. So I wanted the wise

904
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 3: men to not be perfect. One of the things I

905
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 3: feel like I'm a big I'm heavy into like New

906
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 3: Testament scriptures, so like I don't read that and just

907
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 3: be like, oh man, these people weren't human beings. And

908
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 3: I wanted to bring the humanity to three wise men,

909
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 3: like these are people. They be bringing me Hennessy and

910
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 3: bringing the wisdom, you know, and bringing the scrolls and

911
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 3: telling me yo, and that I said. The third gave

912
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 3: a mirror and told me to remember me. He's just

913
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 3: telling me, y'all, remember who you are. This mirror I'm

914
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 3: giving you so you can remember who you are.

915
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 4: You know.

916
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 3: I felt that was important for that, So I just

917
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 3: made that Hennessy. I reference Hendency. On another one, there's

918
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 3: a guy with like, well, I can I enter the

919
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 3: gates of heaven smelling like Hennessy, So Hennessy, Hennessy might

920
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 3: as well respond to me, what's up that happen?

921
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 6: Listen, Pete, you know this is a very vintage, you

922
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 6: know sounding album, even the length of the records, right,

923
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 6: and it's the verses and joints verse. Did either one

924
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 6: of you ever think you know, maybe we should shorten

925
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 6: the records to be like this new era. I'm glad

926
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 6: y'all didn't, but that of a cross your mind in the.

927
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 7: Studio, it's usually now we noticed that it's like people

928
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 7: when they're making records, it's really only two verses, too

929
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 7: many fifty second records, right, But when it's a group,

930
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 7: you may here more than two versus.

931
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: But I think it was just two verses and we did.

932
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: You did three on on this Man's Arms, a couple

933
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: of couple of joints, choice Loansome. But it's now it's like,

934
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 2: that's that's what we did. We have a choice now

935
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: to me, two or three.

936
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 3: I think, man and making songs like you gotta just

937
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 3: go with the feeling like James Brown.

938
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 4: And was just boom. Them records was long.

939
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 3: And then some of them super hits from the Motown

940
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 3: was like two minute records. Like when I'm writing verses,

941
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 3: I'm like this, this song don't need to be that long.

942
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 4: So I kind of we approached more than anything.

943
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 3: I believe when we was making this album, we was like,

944
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 3: let's make something that we really feel like, man, god

945
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: in this music, Let's create that's let's just create and receive.

946
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 4: That, and then I ain't on front.

947
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 3: I was like thinking about albums like only Built for

948
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: Cuban Links, or or thinking about like Midnight Marauders and

949
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 3: Maine and Greedy and the Balloon Mind stayed paid in full,

950
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 3: like I want album Illmatic obviously albums that I was like,

951
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 3: let's make an album where people can listen to the

952
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 3: whole album and it got a sound and we hope

953
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 3: that it could be classified as a new classes.

954
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 2: Well, hip hop all rules, absolutely yes, because James Brown

955
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 2: said like they were rules to the music business right,

956
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: or to music or how to make music, and he

957
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: mentioned like Beethoven and all them type of dudes, and

958
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: he said he defied all of that because they were

959
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: following the rules. He wasn't. And so you know, in

960
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: hip hop, I feel like we're just doing what we want,

961
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 2: what feels good to us. You know what I'm saying,

962
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 2: whether it's two verses, sometimes you hear one long verse

963
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: and the record is over, you know what I'm saying

964
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: with a little bit of a hook, and you know

965
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 2: it's free. You know this, this hip hop shit is

966
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 2: like free.

967
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: I got a hip hop head record SEEO Smooth and

968
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: Pete rock. Whatever happened to the group.

969
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: To scrolling Pains? Man? You know, with two different.

970
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: People, y'are cool with each other.

971
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: Now, well, I can't say that.

972
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: I never seen y'all perform together. And I always said, damn,

973
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: that would be for Fitty. The year Annivers read Everybody

974
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: coming Back, I was like, it would be amazing to

975
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: see Troy on stage.

976
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 2: Sule or I feel the same way. But you know,

977
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: some things just can't happen. You know, it is what

978
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: it is. It's not It's just life, bro, you know

979
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

980
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 6: I just got a couple more questions. You only got

981
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 6: one rap feature on this project, and that's that's a

982
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 6: pause plug one from Daylight. Why why is that?

983
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 4: Man?

984
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 3: Initially I was like, man, Peter, I don't want to

985
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 3: know features. I want to do like well rock Kim

986
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 3: them did like they or you know, like I said,

987
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 3: e Matic had one feature, but I was like, it

988
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 3: didn't feel like we I feel like we had created

989
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 3: a sound. Well, I didn't want any features. I was like,

990
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 3: this is this is a sound. Let's do what we

991
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 3: do it. Yeah, But but what happened is that the

992
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 3: song that prostitutes from dey La Soul is O was

993
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,479
Speaker 3: featured and he blessed the verse man, and like, first

994
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 3: of all, you know day from Dayla Soul, True Go

995
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 3: Ahead passed recently, rest in peace, God bless it.

996
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 4: So so they they were kind of hovering, like you know.

997
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 3: Daylight was one of the first groups that embraced me

998
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 3: and they put me on a record called The Business

999
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 3: and that was like life changing for me. So that's

1000
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 3: my family. I was staying at Mace's crib. This this

1001
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 3: is my family. So I when they when Dave died,

1002
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 3: it kind of it hit me. And and I was

1003
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 3: also listening to a lot of Daylight and that was

1004
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 3: inspiring me too because they just always been free with

1005
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 3: their music. But so we we basically almost done with

1006
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 3: the album. But the song that posted news is on Pete.

1007
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 3: Pete had created the beat, but at one point it

1008
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 3: was day Lives Beat. It was Daylight. They were working

1009
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 3: on the album together that that Pete and Primo was

1010
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 3: producing for Daylight.

1011
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 4: Wow yeah yeah yeah, And Dave passed. So Pete sent

1012
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 4: me to be and he was like, man, this is

1013
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 4: this is day Lives Beat. I'm not sure.

1014
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 3: I just ended up writing to it and I had

1015
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 3: I got the hooked idea to it and I need

1016
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 3: And then so when we were about to master the album,

1017
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 3: I like, Pete, we gotta we got to talk to

1018
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 3: Pas and and Paz was like, man that' said I

1019
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 3: beat man.

1020
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 4: We that's daylight beating.

1021
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 6: Now.

1022
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, I'm gono have to get this

1023
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 3: song of people like I'm gonna make you another one.

1024
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, it ain't gonna beat this beat.

1025
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 3: And then and then five minutes later, Pete hit me

1026
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 3: and said, pa said you could hide to beat. I said, nah,

1027
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 3: let me call Pas. I called him and he said, Yo, rosh,

1028
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 3: you could hide to beat, bro, And I was like nah.

1029
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 3: He was like, I want if it's anybody putting that

1030
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 3: music out there, we want you out there with it

1031
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 3: so you can hide to beat.

1032
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 4: And I was like, no, I want you on this song.

1033
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 4: And then he was like yo, I'm down. Like he was.

1034
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 4: He was actually about to leave New York to go

1035
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 4: do something.

1036
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 3: He went in the studio that wrote that night, went

1037
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 3: in the next morning and blessed it. So it was

1038
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 3: kind of like a divine order that he was that

1039
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 3: he was the MC that was gonna be on the album.

1040
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 3: Pase because they, like I said, they influenced me a

1041
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 3: lot and influenced the album.

1042
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 6: How far on the road did y'all get with the Daylight?

1043
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 2: What they had at least two beats that they were

1044
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 2: writing too positive tell you like you know? And Dave

1045
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 2: was the one that was like that one, yeah, and

1046
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 2: you know, and then picked another beat and then picked

1047
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: that one.

1048
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 4: That we have. Yeah, yo, they I think.

1049
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 3: To be honest, I think y'all got because Poss played

1050
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 3: me at least about four or five joints that y'all

1051
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 3: got this crazy.

1052
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: I'm just remembering the ones that they really went crazy.

1053
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1054
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gave him like six seven beats.

1055
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 6: That's like one of them hip hop?

1056
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 4: What is? You know?

1057
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 6: I'm a Marvel guy, so what if?

1058
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 2: You know?

1059
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 6: What if? What if you don't pass? And we get

1060
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 6: the Daylight? And produced by Premiere and Pete Rock.

1061
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I was doing half he's doing you

1062
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: know here here big Marvel dude, Like I got to

1063
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 2: put that up without the new cap coming and that

1064
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: I'm waiting for that.

1065
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 6: Oh I can't wait for that. That got me my

1066
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,439
Speaker 6: last question. You know, we saw Meth recently. He said

1067
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 6: that he realized that there's a generation gap is just

1068
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 6: too wide for him. He don't want to perform at

1069
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 6: Summer Gym no more. You just felt like the crowd

1070
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 6: was too young at certain concerts, young to certain concerts.

1071
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 6: Do y'all feel that way? And do you feel like

1072
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 6: there's not a home for OG's and hip hop as

1073
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 6: far as not even just performing a radio as well?

1074
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 4: I don't feel that way.

1075
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 3: I feel that, like man, music can prevail over any age.

1076
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 3: Like I was listening to Michael Jackson and Stevie Wonder

1077
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 3: as a kid.

1078
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 4: I wasn't thinking about how old they were. I just

1079
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 4: loved the music.

1080
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: And my first concert was the Jacksons and I was

1081
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 3: eight years old watching them Wow.

1082
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 4: And my point is.

1083
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 3: I think we if we deliver the music that can

1084
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 3: touch them, they will respond.

1085
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 4: And I'm a believer. Man.

1086
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 3: I love doing shows where people don't be really feeling

1087
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 3: me and I win them over. I didn't seen people

1088
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 3: frowning up at me and like like this dude, and

1089
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 3: then I'm like.

1090
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 4: Yo, let me.

1091
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 3: I'm you know, I like to work the crowd like

1092
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 3: and work them to so they do believe. So I mean,

1093
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 3: first of all, I met anybody need to respond to

1094
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 3: myth man them songs he got.

1095
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 2: That's my god, shout out to me.

1096
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, wedding, So I dance with my wedding. Come on, bro,

1097
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 3: that's what I'm so so. I mean, I think the

1098
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 3: one good thing is that I feel like a lot

1099
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 3: of that music is coming around again to the to

1100
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,240
Speaker 3: the youngest. I remember doing the thing at Prairie State

1101
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 3: in Texas and it's your shorty had on low End

1102
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 3: Theory so hoodie.

1103
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1104
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, I said, what you know about that?

1105
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 3: He's like, man, it's my favorite album, low End Theory.

1106
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 3: Trying and call question. I said, how did you? He

1107
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 3: said nineteen. I was like, yo, he taught this stuff?

1108
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 3: Yeah he I mean, whoever introduced him? That's that's his

1109
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 3: music though. Now, so, I feel like if we deliver

1110
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,919
Speaker 3: music that has that soul at that time listeners, young

1111
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 3: people will respond, old people respond, people will respond if you're.

1112
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 6: Looking for that the auditorium, vonn one is out right.

1113
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 6: Now let's go. I'm in a pete rock.

1114
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: Let's play a joint off there which I want to hear.

1115
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 2: Which first, Let's let's hear Fortunate Man the Sunshine again.

1116
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 2: Let's get it.

1117
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: We appreciate you brother, all right, no problem, but thank

1118
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: y'all for joining us. Pick up the album right now,

1119
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 1: The Auditory and Volume one is out right now. Com

1120
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,959
Speaker 1: and Pete Rock. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning, wake

1121
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 1: that ass up in the morning.

1122
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club.