1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Second out a goal from the foe. Back to pass off, 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: fine right throw back, quarter of the ends, one by 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: the pylon, leaping too aunt a grab that is a touchdown. 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 1: Josh Reynolds pressure on the homes fighting a pass left 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: side for Tyrek Gal. He's got a touchdown chance City, 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes a perfect touch, pens and the Cheetah says 7 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: hello to the Monday night stage. Second down meat step back, 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: it's knee high. He collects it. He wants to throw. 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: He's under pressure. He sacks, Cloth comes out, Harris out alec. 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: He says to seven Rams, r throw go under. He's had. 11 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: He's second f the way. It's gonna be a touchdown. 12 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: Defensive touchdown Carol to City. It's the homes again, under pressure, 13 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: crossing patterns like five for straight two one touchdown, far right, 14 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: time line. He's well protected, nowhere to go with the football. 15 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: He escaped pressure to his right. Now again yard line. 16 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: Marcus Jointer on a night that l A will never forget. 17 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: The Rams have defeated the Kansas City Chiefs. Oh my goodness. 18 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: It was the game of the year, maybe the game 19 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: of the decade. Hey, maybe the game of the century. 20 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: At least in the regular season. Jared Goff through a 21 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: forty yard touchdown past to Gerald Everard for that go 22 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: ahead scored one forty nine to play. Patrick Mahomes gets 23 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: two chances uh in the final minute and Change throws 24 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: two picks and the Los Angeles Rams outlast the Kansas 25 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: City Chiefs fifty four to fifty one. Oh my goodness 26 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: at the Coliseum in Monday Night football. Somehow, some way, 27 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: Chris westling a game that surpassed the hype. Yeah. I 28 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: compared it the Lebron James. It's it's very rare to 29 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: see something not only it first it fulfills the hype, 30 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: and then it surpasses the hype. And it was one 31 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: of the most hype regular season games we've ever seen. 32 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: It ended up being maybe the most entertaining game I've seen. 33 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: It's easy to get caught up in prisoner of the 34 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: moment stuff, but that had I love watching playmakers and 35 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: that people were making plays, even the Hunter is making 36 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: plays and onions. And let me just set the table 37 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: before we dig into this game. Uh, this is our 38 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: first of all, it was necessarily we're gonna say, oh, 39 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: it's a good a nice Thanksgiving preview episode. Then this 40 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: Monday Night game, it was just staring at a thing. 41 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: Talk about it for the podcast. So what are we 42 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: gonna do. We're breaking down Rams Chiefs that we're gonna 43 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: go through each of the three Thanksgiving games in a 44 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: in a mini pod. So that's what's coming up today, Greg, 45 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: What did you take out of Monday Night Football? Well, 46 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: it's just these two coaches who are leading what's been 47 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: an offensive revolution and a dominance that the league has seen. 48 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: And it goes back to last year's Super Bowl. And 49 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: they're not the only two teams. I think you can 50 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: look at the Saints. Uh, certainly the Patriots what they've 51 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: done over you know, over the last five years. But 52 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: to have this sort of matchup and and have it 53 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: deliver and and the last memory I sort of have 54 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: in the game is golf shaking off what had been 55 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: a rough fourth quarter on balance. I mean, they had 56 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: six drives in the fourth quarter, which is an entire 57 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: game for some teams, and they had a total of 58 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: sixteen yards on four of those drives, some three and outs, 59 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: a fumble, some miscommunications, some Sean McVeigh kind of getting 60 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: shook a little bit, loosing his time outs Jared Goff 61 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: being a little shook by the pass rush they only 62 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: had three hundred yards of offense, uh ten minutes left 63 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: of the game, and him shaking that off and shaking 64 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: off even what could have been a game ending interception 65 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: in the next throw third and nine, delivering a strike 66 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: beautifully time to Brandon Cooks on an out route, and 67 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: that third and nine helped set up the game winner 68 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: to Gerald Ever And I really think Golf, that's such 69 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: a great job all season of shaking off bad plays. 70 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: He's not perfect, but man, when when it came down 71 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: to it, he threw a dime and he sort of 72 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: just has that ability I think great quarterbacks have to 73 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: have to just you're not gonna be perfect. But he's 74 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: twenty four years old. He stepped up in the biggest moments. 75 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: It's a game where you're hoping when these two played 76 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: that the part for it to meet the hype were 77 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: to be the stars playing some of their best games 78 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: of the year. Entireek killed to me. I just I 79 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: want him to be the offensive player of the year. 80 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: I know he can never be the m v P. 81 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: I think Jared Goff gets thrust back into the m 82 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: v P conversation for me, no matter what you think 83 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: of absolutely and I mean, and I know everyone's caught 84 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: up on the girly thing, but this game, to me, 85 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: it was two coaches, as you said, Greg, daring each 86 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: other to be as aggressive as possible. How many deep 87 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: shots down field? And it's like, yes, the run game 88 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: got a little bit lost because you had to keep up, 89 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: and they're daring the rest of the league outside of 90 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: the Saints, if you want to be considered viable against 91 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: us in this year's playoffs, are probably going four word 92 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: in NFL offenses. You've got to start doing this. You can't. 93 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: We're not just gonna resort back to ten to seven 94 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: games with run heavy, tight nesque offenses from two years ago. 95 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: This is where we are now. It feels like a 96 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: turning point. And I think maybe that two thousand seventeen 97 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: season that was boring, filled with controversy, and between the 98 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 1: concussion talk and what the president was saying, it felt 99 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: like we were living in ashes and now we get 100 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: this blossoming that started with the inflection point of the 101 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and now it feels like this game was 102 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: like the birth of something new, like rock and roll, 103 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: Like this was the Beatles on Ed Sullivan, this is 104 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: some Yes, everything that came before doesn't really even matter. 105 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: We're starting something new. And if you're going to draft 106 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: defensive tackles and inside linebackers in the top fifteen picks 107 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: of the draft, you're gonna be left behind. If you're 108 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: going to be a defensive coach who wants who wants 109 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: to sit on the ball. You know, I met run 110 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: Stuffy one thing about night that the defensive touchdowns were 111 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: massively impactful and changed the course of the game. There 112 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: is a there's and I believe Kevin Clark or the 113 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: Ringer made the point on Twitter and Twitter was a 114 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: fun place to be last night. It's a reminder of 115 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: Twitter can sometimes be fun thing because it's communal game 116 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: Like this is that maybe defense now is changed in 117 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: the sense that it's no longer about shutting teams down. 118 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: It's like who can gather the players that can make 119 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: impact plays like an Aaron Donald. Uh, like we saw 120 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: with all these defensive scores, because you're just not gonna 121 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: stop anyone anymore. And I one one other thought West, 122 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: because you're gonna you're gonna know this name of course. Uh. 123 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: Every great hero journey in the NFL, especially at the 124 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: quarterback position. There's a lot of luck that comes with it, 125 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: and every great quarterback and starts in terms of my 126 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: football fandom with Joe Montana. Uh, they have their kind 127 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: of they need to get that. Little Louis billups luck. 128 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: Louis Billips of course dropped the interception before the John 129 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: Taylor touchdown a Super Bowl four. Uh. Jared Goff and 130 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: Orlando Skendrick in this game, it's a totally different ending. 131 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: Uh if Skendrick makes that play. But sometimes that's just 132 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: the way football works. You gotta get lucky and be 133 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: good as well. You went an entirely different direction than 134 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: I thought out there, and you say every great quarterback 135 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: needs its offensive guru. You know it's Bill Walsh, it's 136 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh, Andy Reid, and these guys have that I thought. 137 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: You know, move out of the way, defensive coaches, conservative coaches. 138 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: You're being left beyond. Move out of the way. People 139 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: who complained that there was no defense when you had 140 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: three defensive scores, eight sacks, four force fumbles, seven punts. 141 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: You said the over under was it was a weird 142 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: game where the score oldness was misleading. Defensive Player of 143 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: the Year has two strip sex Sanson a boot Com 144 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: does something no defensive player has done since the sacks 145 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: that was invented. This game had everything you want to have. 146 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: Epcom scored more touchdowns than Cream Hunt and Tod Gurley combined. 147 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: And and what that's the weird thing about it. The 148 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: score is almost misleading because there were so many possessions. 149 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: They were so short possessions the Rams. The Rams forced 150 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: five turnovers, so they had fifteen possessions. That's almost like 151 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: double a normal game. I thought the Chiefs defense actually 152 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: did a fairly good job. They forced the Rams to 153 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: punt more than they ever do. They took the ball 154 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: away a couple of times. I left the game thinking 155 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: just as much about the Chiefs, or maybe even more 156 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: about their Super Bowl chances because they have those defensive 157 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 1: playmakers Chris Jones, justin Houston, uh and d Ford made 158 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: a bigger impact than the Rams defensive line. I thought overall, 159 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: the Chiefs defense limited the Rams better. They didn't force 160 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: they didn't force as many turnovers, scored They're not good 161 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: in the secondary, but but they forced a lot of points. 162 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: They made some turnovers, and I love the contrast between 163 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: golf and Mahomes, because with Goff you kind of do 164 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: see that Joe Montana. You see him hitting and stride, 165 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: you see the anticipation. Everything is so beautifully done. And 166 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: Mahomes is like the future. I mean if the if 167 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: this game is the future. We just said, I haven't 168 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: seen a guy like him before, and he showed it 169 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: all off in this game, with the platforms, with the 170 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: touch that he throws with, with the sixty yard bomb, 171 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: with the anticipation, with everything, and some mistakes too, but 172 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: he's he started twelve games. I think the most exciting 173 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: play in football right now is when Patrick Mahomes winds 174 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: up and lets one loose and it's just the beauty 175 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: and the power of the throw, and you know it's 176 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: gonna end with something exciting. He is. They are very 177 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: different quarterbacks, but I I came out of this game 178 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: Homes is amazing and he's and they're gonna be set 179 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: up well. The Chiefs or years with him. But Goff 180 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: continues to gain my respect in the stage as big 181 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: as it was. It was such a big stage. Sean 182 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: McVeigh maybe got a little bit of a coaching yips 183 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: at some points. Maybe he's been doing this all year. 184 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: You can see there they the fact that they blew 185 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: three time outs like that, and some for no no 186 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: great reasons. I didn't he's not aggressive in the fourth 187 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: quarter like people think he. I didn't love the play 188 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: end with the passes at the end, I didn't like that. 189 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: But my point was there were multiple shots, uh that 190 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: ESPN had on the sideline of McVeigh kind of gathering himself. 191 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: You could like maybe a little bit of a deep 192 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: breath and you could tell like he was feeling the moment, 193 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: which is human and normal, but it just it just 194 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: reminded you that him, his team, and his quarterbacks stepped 195 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: up when it counted. He's also the coach that schemed 196 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: an incredible game out of Josh Reynolds, and that to 197 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: me is the Rams that you lose Cooper Cup, and 198 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: you can point to other teams and say, when you 199 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: lose a guy like that, it's going to change what 200 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: you can do. And for the Rams, because of the 201 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: way that they get their wide receivers open and way 202 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: that they scheme offense. Reynolds steps right in and looks 203 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: to me like Cooper Cup. He looks fantastic and like 204 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: the Rams all this thing about not using Todd Gurley 205 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: at the end, I get it, but it's like this 206 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: game asked for something completely different. Well, right, if they 207 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: ran Todd Gurley, that's just saying we're gonna punt. And 208 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: they ran three plays. They were all passive, no doubt, 209 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: there's the other side to it, but the odds on 210 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: that and they were doing a good job stopping Gurley, 211 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: and I think they really set up to stop Gurley 212 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: early in the game, and that's why it's partly why 213 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: they didn't call many runs. But there there's only one 214 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: incomplete pass there. So all it was was you gave 215 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: the Chiefs one extra time out and what was going 216 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: to be a very difficult trip down the field. I 217 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: love him trying to win the game by getting one 218 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: first down. Here's the thing. These are two of the 219 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: top five rushing offenses in the NFL, and there are 220 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: two smart coaches who have abandoned the run because they 221 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: know that passing is more efficient way to move the football, 222 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: and they were challenging one. I gotta ask you about 223 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: this because the I know this Cleet Lakeman All Star 224 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: crew they put together. There were like nine penalties in 225 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: the first quarter. I think six of them. The Chiefs 226 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: had thirteen penalties out of twenty one, and there were 227 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: defensive issues with the Chiefs penalty wise that extended drives 228 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: over and over. And I don't know if this is 229 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: why did they do this for this one game, just 230 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: because of the magnitude of it. I think so you 231 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: you kind of want the official it's a balancing act 232 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: because you want them to call the game as it 233 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: should be called, but you also wanted to get out 234 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: of the way. I hated there was a helmet to 235 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: helmet penalty that the renounsator didn't even mention. Basically, well, 236 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: don't get me started with the same is too special 237 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: to waste up talking about that team. But like you 238 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: want to the official crew to find that balancing act 239 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: where they're officiating the game and not standing in a 240 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: way and sometimes they overstepped their bounty. Think about the 241 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: great games we've had in the NFL this year with 242 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: these teams. Saints Rams for this game was better than 243 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: that one. Go back and watch that game and why 244 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: was just for the contrast and it was fun. But 245 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: but you're absolutely right, Uh, what was the Patriot score 246 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: forty three to forty and then this one's fifty four 247 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: to fifty one, and I think the Steelers can get 248 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: into a game like this, will maybe have I hope 249 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: we have at this matchup. So this is what it is. 250 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: And yet you're right. I moved up Aaron Donald in 251 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: my m v P rankings. He's number three behind Breeze 252 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: and Mahomes. Let me last point I'll make and you 253 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: guys can jump in with the final thought as well 254 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: before we move on. But uh, if I if you, 255 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: if everything was on the line, I was gonna say 256 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: your mortgages, but come on, your rents were on the line. 257 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: All of famers, Okay, Woway, Patrick Mahomes, just say yes 258 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: or no, Yes because of because of not just his talent, 259 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: but because he's with Andy Reid, all of that together, 260 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: Guard Goff, Todd Gurley, Yes, Hill, Yeah, Travis Kelsey, Aaron Donald, 261 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: and Dominican Sue Andrew Whitworth. This is a memorable game 262 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: for a lot of reasons. But this is like Johnny 263 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: Johnny Hecker, who had average and a half already the 264 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: greatest punner of all time in my opinion, more or 265 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: less detonated the Chiefs chances on that last drive with 266 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: the killer punt with the best punner turner in the 267 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: league waiting back there. But this is a Sampson, you go, 268 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: another Hall of Famer potentially. But but this is the 269 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: greatest Monday Night game of all times. What I'm saying 270 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: not just because the hype, but the players on the field. 271 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: People will talk about this game forever. It knocks out 272 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: the Earl Campbell love You Blue Oilers game with Howard 273 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: Costell going crazy as the best Monday Night ever I think. 274 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: I mean. And if you're a team that, like the 275 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: New York Acions, decides in next year's draft to take 276 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: a running back over a franchise quarterback, it's another reminder 277 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: because we watched a lot of the New York Giants 278 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: in these night games, and they aren't one of these 279 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: teams that are are part of the revolution right now. 280 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: They've been left behind right Sometimes the symbolism of the 281 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: moment kind of meets the actual entertainment of the moment. 282 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: And that that, to me, was this game. It wasn't 283 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: just living up to the hype. It was that sort 284 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: of dawning to a lot of people that this is 285 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: what football is like now. And anyone complaining about the 286 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: lack of defense can go eat it because football is 287 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: about Football is about evolution. Like if they want the 288 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: old type of football, hey, that the highest scoring game 289 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: is still from nineteen You know a couple of the 290 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: highest scoring games are from the sixties. Football is always changing. 291 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: Football is changed. It'll change again. But this is how 292 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: this is what it's looking like right now, and if 293 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: you don't embrace the change, you get left behind. Like 294 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher. Yeah, my final point. Greg Coastell and Ron 295 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: Dworsky have a book called Games that Change the Game 296 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: and it highlights about eight different classic NFL game games 297 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: because of the scheming and the innovation changed the way 298 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: football is played. And the nineteen forty title game when 299 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: the Bears came out with the T formation and won 300 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: seventy three to nothing. This game felt like innovation and 301 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: you either get on board or you're left behind because 302 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: it's everything that came before. This is gonna be different 303 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: than what's gonna happen. It was. It was present meeting future. Uh, 304 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: there you go. So that's our recap of Monday Night Football. 305 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind seeing those teams again first weekend in February, 306 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: but we'll see that the football gods have to say 307 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: about that. Let's now turn our attention to Thursday, uh 308 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: and talk about the three Thanksgiving games tradition. Uh and 309 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: and we all love it and we love to watch football. 310 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler and Chris Weslay and Greg Rosantal and up 311 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: Dad hands us. That's the introduction of us. We have 312 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: to get right in to today. There's just two much 313 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: to talk about. But let's move to Thursday. It's the 314 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: start of week twelve. The first game, as it always is, 315 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: is played in Detroit. Uh. It's at Ford Field. It's 316 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: the same place where Third Eye Blind played a halftime 317 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: show in nine. It's the name of Thanksgiving is on display. 318 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: So here are the Bears, the team of around the NFL, 319 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: coming off their best one of the seasons Sunday Night 320 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: bit of a a tough turnaround for the Bears here. Uh. 321 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: Now they get the Lions and uh, Lions, Greg who 322 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: we don't know who they are week to week. So 323 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: the Bears on a very short week, the Lions at home. 324 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: The Bears gonna keep it going here, I think they will. 325 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: But as we tape this, we don't know whether Mitch 326 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: Trabinsky is playing in this game. He suffered a shoulder 327 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: injury on a late hit from Harrison Smith. Matt Naggy 328 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: was vague about his status on Tuesday, didn't sound overly optimistic, 329 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: but other people believe that that he will be able 330 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: to play. You could have chased Daniel starting, and that 331 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:02,239 Speaker 1: certainly changes the complexion of a Bears team that otherwise 332 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: you know is absolutely rolling on defense. That with Khalil 333 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: Mack and just everything that they have going on, they 334 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: have playmakers at every level of the defense with a 335 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: cheam Knicks and Jackson playing so well at safety that 336 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: you just have to figure the lines are gonna have 337 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: out really hard time moving the ball without Carrie on 338 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: Johnson and very likely without Marvin Jones in this game. 339 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: It's one of those weird instances. It's only the third 340 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: time since nineteen seventy. We're an eleven days span separates 341 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: the last time these two teams met, which which adds 342 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: another wrinkle to it. But especially if the if Trabiski 343 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: is out, I I look at what's happened to Matthew 344 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: Stafford over the last game, where he's been sacked on 345 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: almost thirty four percent of his when he's been pressured. 346 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: I mean, they're getting to him and not just hurrying 347 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: him throwing him out the pocket. They're taking him down. 348 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: And this is the wrong defense for Detroit to deal with. 349 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: And I feel with Detroit, and I haven't been inside 350 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: that stadium, I feel like it's got to be a 351 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: bottom six seven place to be intimidated. I as a team, 352 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: this is not going in. This is not what you 353 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: dealt with last night in Los Angeles, and it's not 354 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: what you deal with when you go to Kansas City 355 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: on the road. This is a milk toast environment. By 356 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: the way, shout out to the Los Angeles Coliseum crowd. 357 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: The fact that you're even making that statement, which I 358 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: believe I agree with. That was an electric atmosphere. Football 359 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: works in l A when you have the right set up, 360 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: and yesterday was probably when you have one team, I mean, 361 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: the big loser their Mexico City. They probably would have 362 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: liked to see that game down there, but that's on them. 363 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: But they get they get a game next year. It's 364 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: already been announced. I felt like the night that the 365 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: Rams became l A's team. Yeah, this season's really helped. 366 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: Between the first Thursday night game we were at and 367 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: then Top topping it and everything that's happened. You're absolutely right. 368 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: The Bears are the only defense I trust this year. 369 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: And I don't know if I trust them against the Chief, 370 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: Saints or Rams, but I certainly trust him in this game. 371 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: Like you said eleven days after a non competitive game 372 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: in which they absolutely throttle the Lions. And now the 373 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: downgrade from Carrie on Johnson de La Garrett Blunt is massive. 374 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: It can't be overstated. Blunt is averaging about two yards 375 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: per carry, can't make anyone miss at age thirty two, 376 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: and and no Marvin Jones. So you're going out there 377 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 1: with Kenny Golladay, who was fantastic and made some absolutely 378 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: unbelievable plays last week. But who else behind him? With 379 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: the Bears, you're putting You're putting Bruce Ellington in. And 380 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: the one positive is if it's Rabinsky who didn't play, 381 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: you know well, I would say on on Sunday night. Overall, 382 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: whether it's a kind of a banged up Rabinsky or 383 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: Chase Daniel, the Bears seem more likely to play the 384 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: style of game Detroit wants, which is kind of a 385 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: close to the vest out. Detroit did just win a 386 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: game pretty impressively. Stafford made Keith throws in that game, 387 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: and they've been very good on Thanksgiving lately with Stafford. 388 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: I think they've won five of six if that means anything, 389 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: which I don't really other than that they have a 390 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: good quarterback and that they're at home on a on 391 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: a short week. But I don't. I don't care if 392 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: Chase Daniel starts or not. I'm still gonna lock this 393 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: game up for the Old Bears, and I was surprised 394 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: that the lines are gonna be favored if if Chase 395 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: Daniel starts this game, which I totally I locked the 396 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: Bears up last week, and I'm gonna do with something 397 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: that WestEd earlier in the year. I'm gonna follow in 398 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: Gregg's footsteps here, but following my own footsteps from a 399 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: week ago. I don't know yet. I mean, you're riding 400 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: with Greg who's flirting with infamy at for instance. What 401 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 1: I like to do with the Locks is not have 402 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: them involved in my Sunday, at least before the show, 403 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: because I've get into very I'm very irate when I lose, 404 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: so at least I can just deal with that alone. 405 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: On Thanksgiving, Khalil mac is back to what he was 406 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: before the ankle injury, and that is he is. He 407 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: destroys game plans. He is that guy. I mean Aaron Donald. 408 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: I think his surge into the favorite for defensive Player 409 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: of the year. But Mac maybe with a close, strong finish, 410 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: I don't think he could rule him out either. He's 411 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: he's a force. No, and this Lion's offensive line has 412 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: been up and down, especially the right tackle Rick Wagner, 413 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: So if he put Mac over there on him, they're 414 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: gonna struggle. And meanwhile, like Kyle Long is out, has 415 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: been out for a while and we don't even notice. 416 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: We haven't even mentioned it on the show. One of 417 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 1: the best guards in football and the Bears. Bears are 418 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: getting done pretty well. I just don't feel like Chicago 419 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: to the point of trusting their defense. One of the 420 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: few that you can They don't have big letdown games 421 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: like can right. Their average margin of defeat is the 422 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: second lowest in the league. Like they're not. They don't 423 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 1: suddenly get wiped out by Sun who they played. They 424 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: had a pretty easy schedule. They've had the easiest, maybe 425 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: the easiest schedule in football against opposing offenses. You know, 426 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: the one quality offense. They played the Patriots. They did 427 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: a solid job. Not great that that score was misleading 428 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 1: because there was especially the Lions on the flip side 429 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: of beating some good teams. But they've lost to some 430 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: bad ones, so they're completely all over the They're so weird. 431 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: I have a theory now why the Lions and Titans 432 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: are so predictable. These these Patriots disciples, Belichick disciples, like 433 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: they could come up with, like they changed so much 434 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: week to week. Every once in a while they hit 435 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: on a home run game plan that right makes their 436 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: team look good. It's like, you know, we we thought 437 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: the Panthers were such a lock last week that we 438 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't even have taken that as a as a lock in, 439 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: and they ended up winning that game. Uh, let's move 440 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: on to the second game. Uh, this is will be 441 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: played at jeral World four thirty pm Eastern kickoff. And 442 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: yes there's always a game in Dallas as well. And 443 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: here are the Cowboys, all of a sudden with two 444 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: gritty road wins back to back against two thousand and 445 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: seventeen playoff teams. Uh, the Eagles and the Falcons. They're 446 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: at five and five and they get in their building 447 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: the NFC East leader Washington Redskins Chris Wessling, who are 448 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: six and four, and they got that game advantage. But 449 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: now there's a team in transition on a short week 450 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: because Alex Smith obviously out of the picture for god 451 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: knows how long, perhaps for good, we hope not. Here's 452 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: Colt McCoy stepping in on a short week to be 453 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: the team's new leader and potential savior. Well, I've I've 454 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: heard some sky is falling like Redskins season is collapsing 455 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: analysis and my opinion is this the way Alex Smith 456 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: has played this year. One of the range of outcomes 457 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: for the Redskins is that they move the ball better 458 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: with Coote McCoy than they did with Alex Smith, and 459 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: especially the last six quarters of Alex Smith. Um, I 460 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: don't think that's that's an outlandish statement. I think that quote. 461 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: McCoy will probably be more aggressive, he'll probably turn it loose, 462 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: he'll take more chances, so maybe he has more turnovers. 463 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: But I think they'll also make more plays. That said, 464 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys are the better team and I 465 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: think they'll show it, and I think they'll be tied 466 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: for first place after this game. I'm not. I want 467 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: to feel the same way as he was, because the 468 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys are the better team, they're at home, they're playing 469 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: well right now. But I just don't trust them. I can't. 470 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: You also see them like laying an egg in this game. 471 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: I think they're different since they got to Marie Cooper, 472 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott. We've talked about that offense opening up is 473 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: averaging hundred seventy yards from scrimmage per game. Um, they 474 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: haven't used Cooper as much, but he's getting open. Dak 475 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: Prescott's playing better, their offensive line is playing better, and 476 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: Layton vander esh is a legitimate star. I trust the 477 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: Cowboys ability to get to Colt McCoy, but Cole McCoy 478 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: gives you what Alex Smith did, and and he he 479 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: outplayed him when col McCoy came in the last game. 480 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: And I guess it's someone that you haven't you weren't 481 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: prepared for, but you're not. You wouldn't, in theory, be 482 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: scared of col McCoy coming into a game. He was 483 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: as mobile as Alex Smith and made better throws, generated touchdowns. 484 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: I don't see it as a downgrade, but I don't. 485 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys have been such a better team 486 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: at home that this is. They're inviting this matchup and 487 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to lock up the Redskins and I can't 488 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: do it. They the Cowboys, though, even when they play 489 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: the way they want to play, which I think they 490 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: did in Atlanta, the style of football they play, especially 491 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: in today's NFL we're talking about, they're not They're not 492 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: part of the revolution. I mean, Jason Scarrett is analog 493 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: and uh, you know this is a digital league right 494 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: now. Now Now so are the Redskins. But the style that 495 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: they play invites it. And their defense is good, invites 496 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: what invites close games and the defense is good, but 497 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: like every good defense in the NFL, they're not show stoppers. 498 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: They had they were given a twenty to nine lead 499 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Go finish the game. No, you give up 500 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: two straight touch will you said Sunday that Atlanta is 501 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: as good as any offense in the right nine points 502 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: or whatever. There was only eight possessions, uh and and 503 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: one of them was a little lucky. And yeah, they 504 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: had a chance to close the game out there. There 505 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: were there was a moment in that game I stopped. 506 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: They said, Hey, if you're a really good defense. Let's 507 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: stop the Falcons here. And they gave up two long 508 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 1: drives at the end of that game. And Garrett just 509 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: feels like he almost wants to play these close games. 510 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: And that's why when you know, I looked at this 511 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: game and I saw that the Cowboys are heavy, heavy 512 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: favorites in this game. And it seems like because it 513 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: seems like it seems like the people in the Desert 514 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: are given, you know, the Redskint h the NFL else 515 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: from Alex Smith to Cole McCoy. I don't buy that. 516 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler is not naming his son after some guy 517 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: who caused the team three or four points. Redskins are 518 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: gonna keep this game close. It should not be a 519 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: two score game. And people gotta be making a rain 520 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 1: on the Thanksgiving Day dinner table. Take out that money, 521 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: but they don't have a roof. Oh yeah, we can't 522 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: kill us. There goes making that money. People gotta be 523 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: throwing those dollar bills on your turkey. Have a little 524 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: set of dollar bills. Someone invite Pacman Jones. I'm not 525 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: comfortable with that affectation, Greg. What did I say? Just 526 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: the inflection was making me a little income. I don't 527 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: even know what happened. We have to listen to it. 528 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 1: Back that. So the rainmakers back in a big way. 529 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: I'm glad Greg. Yeah, I like to keep on getting. 530 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: You want to distance yourself from all these different things. 531 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: You just keep I never said it was like we 532 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 1: said that. I never said it was mean after you. 533 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: So the Redskins are your rainmaker of the week. It's 534 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: a rainy season. It's good to see the rainmaker back 535 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: after you face planted last week. I mean that you're 536 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: not gonna be one and one. What are the desert 537 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: people saying? We went one and one? He brought it up, 538 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: he brought up the chargers. I said, let's make it 539 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,239 Speaker 1: rain that that cash I just did that was one 540 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: in one. But I think everywhere even Gregg was in 541 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: agreement that perhaps to give the rainmaker, really to establish 542 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: the brand, you should go with one. And you can't 543 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: control my segment. You got you can do whatever you want. 544 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: You're chieving in your bread. We're trying to help you. 545 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: How could that be cheap? I'm not gonna trust the 546 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: guy with multiple rain re Mark is just silent. He 547 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 1: seems to be judging you with his eyes. I'm just 548 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: waiting for this to play out. It feels like a 549 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: c y A move. All right, let's move on to 550 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: the final game. Unless anybody had another thought there? Good stuff, 551 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: Good guys. Do you like the idea of Chase Daniel 552 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: and Colt McCoy on Thanksgiving? Sorry? Match the final game? 553 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: It's the prime time game. It's on NBC. I was 554 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: told by a a copy editor that I respect and 555 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: value his knowledge this week that even though it is 556 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: on NBC, see Collinsworth gets the night off, So Tariko 557 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: gets a call. I guess al gets the night off 558 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: to their just Colin mcugh gets some reps here. I 559 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:14,719 Speaker 1: think he's doing it with the entire pregame crew. Interesting. Interesting, 560 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: And it's the game of course is the Atlanta Falcons, 561 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: who are riding a two game losing streak that's really 562 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: put a big dent in their playoff hopes. Uh, they 563 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: will travel to the super Dome to get the Saints, 564 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: who are as playing as anyone, uh almost in years. Yeah, 565 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 1: they're at that level right now where they seem to 566 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 1: be at a perfect point. If you're a Saints fan, 567 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: your only fear is that they're peaking too soon, perhaps 568 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: Mark Seessler, because the Falcons, just like the Eagles last week, 569 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: seem to have an uphill challenge here. I'm not worried 570 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: about them peaking too soon because I feel like what 571 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: they have is what they're what they've had all year, 572 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: and what they're gonna have at the end of the 573 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: year too. And I think that the thing is, though, 574 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: after what happened last night with the Rams, you have 575 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: no wiggle room. You've got you cannot have a letdown here, 576 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: and this, to me is a game that essentially will 577 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: put a knife into the Falcons and and their season, 578 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: if it wasn't already ended, well, it's over for Atlanta 579 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: and they they cannot keep up with the Saints in 580 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: this one. Well, they've been playing with a fork sticking 581 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: out their backs for a month. And I've decided I'm 582 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: no longer gonna allow Greg to call the Falcons one 583 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: of the best offense in the league or it's like 584 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: they got the best office in the league. They have 585 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: been held under twenty four points in four of the 586 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: last six weeks, and the Saints average double that in 587 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: the last three weeks. The Saints have already as many 588 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: forty point games in a season as anyone ever with 589 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: six games left. Yes, so stop saying the Falcons are 590 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: on the same level as to say're not. You're right there. 591 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: They're about six or seventh in in the league and 592 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: they have the league's worst defense right now according to 593 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: the Football the worst. So not they're they're getting less 594 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: possessions because they their defense doesn't force any turnovers. They're 595 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: giving up these longers. Every Falcons game and Cowboys game 596 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: is kind of like this, too, are very similar. It's 597 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: not many possessions, it's these long drives on both sides 598 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: of the ball. I have no I have no idea 599 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: what Atlanta can do in this game. Like the whole 600 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: slow down the game idea doesn't work when the Saints 601 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: are putting up seven points every time, because then you're training. 602 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: Then you have to score the game. It's like the 603 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: Bengals kind of slowed down the game. How did that 604 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: work out for them? It didn't really matter. And you're 605 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: not in and Drew Brees touchdowns, one pick, They're not. 606 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: You're not going to get them to fall into one 607 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: of these games where they give the ball over and 608 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: they are peaking in the sense that the guys like 609 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: tray Kuan Smith is now becoming a major factor week 610 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,959 Speaker 1: to week. Mark Ingram is still running well, Alvin Kamara 611 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: is doing the same stuff he's always done, and their 612 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: defense is giving up less than twenty points per game. Well, 613 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: that that's where I don't think they are peaking necessarily 614 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: because they're changing because of what you said about track 615 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: Won Smith, because of Kirkwood. I mean, you can't take 616 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 1: kirk Wood out for Brandon Marshall. Keith Kirkwood. I mean, 617 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: I think you've gotta keep developing, see how it goes. 618 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: Tasting Hill is just like tickling Sean Payne's fancy and 619 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: he's like waking up in the middle of the night. 620 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: He's like waking up in the middle of the night 621 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: coming up with place for him. And the defense, to 622 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: your point, Mark is getting much better. And I think 623 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,959 Speaker 1: if they can close out the season strong and this 624 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: is a very big This is a tough test for them, 625 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: at least the defense, and they just they have to 626 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: be looking forward to burying the Falcons playing a Super 627 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: Bowl in Atlanta. What could be worse? They yes, that, 628 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, you know that, Greg, you went to 629 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: college down there. This is a real nasty rivalry with 630 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: the fans hate each other. Uh maybe a little under 631 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: the radar for a lot of people, but it seems 632 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: like to me with the Falcons. Maybe maybe because I 633 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: want to talk myself into this being a fun game. 634 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: I want to but listen, Daddy. By Thanksgiving night, it's 635 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: now you know the son's going down. I'm kicking back, 636 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: relaxing maybe, but I'm gonna throw back a few Tito's 637 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: and enjoy myself in this the most American of all holidays. 638 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: I want a game here, and pardon me wonders if 639 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: the Falcons in like desperation, what do they call it 640 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: the cage dog game? The game, well, I like I 641 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: came out of the cage. The corner dog game actually 642 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: goes toe to toe, punch to punch. The good Falcon's 643 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: offense comes out. Because yes, they've been a little inconsistent, 644 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: but three weeks ago they put up thirty eight. They 645 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: put up thirty four two weeks before that, and then 646 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: they had a great run through September into October. Maybe 647 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: they can match scores. I don't think they win the game, 648 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: but maybe we get another like five type game, like 649 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: app of the Rams and Saints. I'm with you, but 650 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: I look at the deep schedule for New Orleans, and 651 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: what I'm looking for is the NFC title game, and 652 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: I want that to be as competitive as possible. They 653 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: closed with the Panthers. Steelers and Panthers, so you can't 654 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: slip up here at home in a game that you 655 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: should take, and they are coming. Everyone is in the 656 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: afterglove of what happened last night, understandably, but it's easy 657 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: to forget that the Saints put up forty eight against 658 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl champions and allowed seven. They don't just 659 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: go in and give up thirty five. I've already broken 660 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: goals team, but I don't care if they're broken they 661 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: this is a broken Falcons team. Go lay it on them. Team. 662 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: The Saints are the rare team where I know you. 663 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: You know you want this to be a competitive game, 664 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: so do I. And I hope Matt Ryan pulls something 665 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: out of his but because it's gonna be tough, he's not. 666 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just saying I hope he he played. 667 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: He's we keep saying he's playing better. First of all, 668 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: he's not playing better than his m v PCs. I 669 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: don't need to thank you. I don't need to hear 670 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: that anymore. But he's playing very well and they're a 671 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: top five or six offense. He's playing really well because 672 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: the offensive line isn't helping. They don't really trust their 673 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: running game. But I think he could have a great night, 674 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: hopefully and make it interesting. But even if it's not 675 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: by the third quarter, the Saints are the rare team 676 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: when they blow teams out. I think they're entertaining just 677 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: because what other team has Kimeara and Thomas and the 678 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: place is going to be going crazy. They're entertaining when 679 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: they blow teams. That Eagles game was not dull. It 680 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: was the opposite of and it and the score was 681 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: was ridiculous. All I want from Greg is an acknowledgement 682 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: that the Rams, Saints, and Chiefs are on a different 683 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: level than everyone else offensive like maybe the Cults are 684 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: in there, just like the Ram, Saints and Chiefs are 685 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: doing things that we haven't seen because the fifth best 686 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 1: offense means you're in a completely different tier. Is huge 687 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: gap between those three, and I think this. I think 688 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: the Steelers haven't been there and the Patriots haven't been there, 689 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: but they've shown signs they want a forty three to 690 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: forty game over Kansas City. They've shown signs, but they 691 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: haven't been there. They could be there, but they haven't been. 692 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: And maybe even there's a gap between the Saints and 693 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,919 Speaker 1: the next two No really Chiefs. Well, they score every 694 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: single time this The Saints are on a run like 695 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: we haven't seen and they get better every week, and 696 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: they're going to get on the other side of the 697 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: ball at some point. They're gonna get Marcus Davenport back too, 698 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: so they're gonna get even better. The a f C 699 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: feels like it has four or five good teams, but 700 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: in the NFC, I just want to Rams Saints rematch, 701 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: and it very fine in Los Angeles because of that 702 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: scheduled difference. The Rams really only have one tough game 703 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: the rest of the Sea. It's very tough though it's 704 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: in Chicago. But the Saints have three pretty tough game. 705 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: That's why I mean they don't. They have no wiggle 706 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: room because you have to you have to equal the record, 707 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: and I don't think the Saints go into l A 708 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: and win. That can likely to be the trap game. Uh. 709 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: To Mark's point. Next week they go on a three 710 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: game road road trip. The Saints they played better obviously 711 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: on the road this year undefeated in fact, but uh 712 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 1: at Dallas, at Tampa, at Carolina, then home to Pittsburgh 713 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: and home to Carolina. So you're right there. There's probably 714 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: a loss in there, at least maybe even two. And 715 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: then it allows the Rams to potentially sneak in the 716 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: back door, but they gotta win twice. The schedule, Bakers 717 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: got lucky. All those teams are playing each other. The 718 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: Chargers are playing the Steelers. The Chargers are playing the Chiefs, 719 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: the Patriots are playing the Steelers. It's like we got 720 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 1: a nice little roun Rounds have to finish a game 721 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: clear of the Saints because of the tiebreaker. That's gonna 722 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: be hard to do that. Here's the Ram schedule, the Lions, 723 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: the Bears, the Eagles, the Cardinals, the Forts. They're not 724 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: losing again at Chicago at Chicago. We'll see where you 725 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: can't just give that to the right. I could be too. 726 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: Thir teen and one is not a crazy I don't 727 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: see them dropping two games on the last time. There's 728 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: two fourteen and two teams in the conference. I was 729 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: just thinking, this is like the most confident I've ever 730 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: been in November that we're going to have a great 731 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: super Bowl. It's going to be off. I'm trying to 732 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: think of like it's a fair point, Like what would 733 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: be the worst possible super Bowl right now? Texans Bears? Sorry, hey, 734 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,240 Speaker 1: keep the Bears out of this. How dare you? Patriots 735 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: would be bad? Patriots back in there? Texan Seahawks. You 736 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: don't even want the Patriots. I have mixed feelings, but 737 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: I definitely want to see them back. I don't have 738 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: I don't have a ton of confidence Redskins tightness without 739 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,720 Speaker 1: the match, revenge for Alex Smith's injury? How dare you? J? J? Watt? 740 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: All right, thank you and everybody for listening. We'll be 741 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: back um with our preview show over the rest of 742 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: week twell later this week. So thank you to everyone 743 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: who follows the show. And uh if you don't hear 744 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: from us before then, Happy Thanksgiving to all you uh 745 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: US listeners. We love you. This is Dan Hansons signing 746 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: off for Quiet Storm, The Mailman, The Old Boss, Dr Rainmaker, 747 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: and Ricky Hollywood behind the Glass dr Rainmaker Still Wednesday,