WEBVTT - Betty and Barney Hill 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:03.880 Hi Strange is released weekly every Thursday, brought to you 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:07.080 absolutely free, but if you want to binge the whole season, 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:11.000 it's available right now on Apple Podcasts for all Tenderfoot 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:15.160 plus subscribers. You'll also get exclusive bonus episodes throughout the season. 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:22.480 For more information, check out the show notes enjoy the episode. 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:28.200 Barnie and Betty Hill are two of many Americans who 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:32.160 claim to have seen an unidentified flying objects, and two 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:35.120 perhaps one hundred, who claimed to have been aboard a 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:36.240 flying saucer. 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:41.200 Want this on my lapel? 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:41.599 Yes? 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:43.640 Please? 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:50.760 I'll never forget that day. I was thirteen years old 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:54.440 in nineteen sixty one when Betty and Barney were abducted. 0:00:56.520 --> 0:01:02.080 My mother was on the phone with Betty. My mother 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:08.440 was concerned, and I knew that something was wrong. When 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:12.240 she hung up the phone, she told me Betty and 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:16.840 Barney had seen a flying saucer up close the night before. 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:20.479 They were afraid they'd been contaminated. 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:34.280 Welcome to High Strange. On September nineteenth, nineteen sixty one, 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:38.200 newlyweds Betty and Barney Hill were traveling along US Route 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:41.360 three in the mountains of New Hampshire. What transpired that 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.640 night would forever shape the horror sci fi genre of 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:46.920 alien abductions in pop culture. 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:53.480 I'm going to start out telling you about my capture, 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:59.120 which happened on September nineteenth, nineteen sixty one. 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.640 This is Betty sharing her story at the International U 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:04.600 of FO Congress in nineteen seventy seven. 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:10.320 On that night, my husband, Barney and I were returning 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:15.720 from Montreal. We left there a late afternoon and Bonnie 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:19.240 and I was having a very pleasant drive home to Fortsmouth, 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:23.680 New Hampshire. All of a sudden, I saw what I 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:27.919 thought with a new star in the sky. It began 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:33.960 to move zig zaggy, going up and down, spinning. This 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:37.680 object left the top of the mountain, came out over 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:40.880 the highway directly in front of the car and stopped. 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:47.160 Bonnie decided he's going to get out and identify this object, 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:51.200 so he took the binoculars and stepped away from the car, 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:55.800 and when he did, the object shifted out over the field. 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:01.200 Bonnie walked towards it, looking up and he say human 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:06.280 like figures standing in the window looking down at him. 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:10.480 And at that moment the craft began to descend and 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:15.839 Barney panicked, feeling they planned to capture him. He came 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:18.720 tearing back to the cap saying, we had to get 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:21.440 out of there. They were going to capture us. 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:28.240 I was thirteen years old in nineteen sixty one when 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.359 Betty and Barney were abducted. 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:34.880 This is Betty and Barney Hill's niece, Kathleen Martin. 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:40.480 Betty and Barney had seen a flying saucer up close 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:46.960 the night before. They were afraid they'd been contaminated. We 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:50.120 had a neighbor who was a physicist, and my mother 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:54.480 said that she would call him to ask what else 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:59.040 they might do. They had already taken long showers, they 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:03.000 had put their suitcases outside, They threw all the food away, 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:08.520 so they were taking a lot of precautions, worried that 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:12.080 they might have been contaminated by this craft that came 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:16.440 within one hundred feet of them. I was just terrified. 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:21.880 What were you afraid of? 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:26.680 The think being taken? I was afraid of being taken. 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:34.559 When I was sixteen years old, Betty and Barney had 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:41.800 sessions with neuropsychiatrists doctor Benjamin Simon. They would stop at 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:45.680 my home and my grandparents' home across the street on 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:50.120 the way home from doctor Simon's office in Boston, Massachusetts. 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:55.120 They talked about the ets, about what they did to them, 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:59.200 a little bit about the communication. There was a lot 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:04.839 of evidence torn dress, shiny spots on the trunk of 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:08.800 the vehicle that had a magnetic field, watches that had 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:15.200 broken and never ran again, binocular strap broken, Betty's dress 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:20.640 was torn in several places. All of those things were 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:26.600 a mystery, but sort of with my scientific mind, I 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:30.200 was interested in all of that and how it might 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:31.040 have happened. 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:35.239 Over the course of this episode, I'm going to unpack 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:37.760 all the details of the Betty and Barney Hill incident, 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:42.000 including the horroring tape of their recollection of this alleged encounter. 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:46.799 And I'll also say I completely understand how absolutely insane 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.640 this stuff sounds. Even as I sit here right now. 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:53.320 It can so easily just sound preposterous to me. So 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.159 before we dive in super deep, I want to highlight 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:59.000 some of the things that make this case incredibly harder 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:04.360 to just blindly dismiss the physical evidence. After extensive investigation, 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:08.080 it was learned that both Betty and Barney experienced several 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:11.800 physical changes that night. Betty's blue dress she was wearing 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:16.520 was badly damaged. It was ripped in multiple places and 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.279 covered in some kind of pink powder that left stains. 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:23.000 The tops of Barney's shoes were scraped, and the strap 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:26.040 on his binoculars was also broken, and both of their 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:31.080 wristwatches stopped working that night. On their car, they found 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:34.560 weird circular marks on the trunk that were never there before, 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.760 and if you approached it with a compass, it would 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:41.479 start to spin around all crazy. So whatever happened that night, 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.760 and for as weird and unbelievable as it all may sound, 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.760 this was the result of that or was part of 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:49.279 some much more elaborate hoax. 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:53.000 Well as a gentleman the name of doctor Benjamin Simon. 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:55.640 He's a psychiatrist in the Boston area, and he was 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:59.960 called on to ended you psychoanalyze and if the die 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:04.120 Betty Dell and Bonnydill, welcome doctor Silon to our program. 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:04.920 Doctor Silon. 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:07.640 Yes, this stop from the beginning. 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.920 When did you first ended the story of Benny and Barnie, 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:11.960 don't you? 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:13.560 Late sixty three? 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:18.120 They were hunting in they lived a two hours or so, 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:21.360 which seemed to bother them, but to which they could 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:22.080 not account. 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:23.960 Well. 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:28.880 Bonnie's shiptims had begun just after they had this. Opposed 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:34.000 of fighting, Betty had responded by a series of means 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:37.440 extending over a week or more or at night marriage quality. 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:41.960 They had no idea what had happened, if anything, during 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:42.840 these two hours. 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.280 What should have been a relaxing drive in the middle 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:49.000 of the night on their way home from a delayed honeymoon, 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:53.600 was interrupted by something extremely eerie. As Betty looked out 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:56.480 the passenger side window, she saw a bright object in 0:07:56.520 --> 0:08:00.000 the sky, moving sporadically. At first, Betty thought it was 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:03.320 a star, then Barney thought I was a satellite. Eventually 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:06.080 they became so curious Barney pulled the car over to 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.240 get a better look at it. He stepped out of 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:10.400 the car and grabbed his binoculars from the back seat, 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:13.080 and when he looked up, he couldn't believe what he 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:16.560 was seeing. Barney claims to have seen a large craft 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.320 hovering just a few hundred feet in the sky. It 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.680 was extremely bright and made no noise. On the front 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.160 of it was a long row of curved windows, and 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:28.200 he could see inside the craft. He saw what looked 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:31.800 like beings standing around and moving about the craft's interior, 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:33.400 looking right at him. 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:34.520 He was horrified. 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:37.400 Almost instantly, he ran back to the car and sped 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:40.679 off in a panic. Betty and Barney both initially remembered 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:42.920 a haze coming over them, and what they described as 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:46.000 a strange series of beeping sounds. 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:48.199 And then abruptly a jump in time. 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:52.000 When they came to they were still driving, but the 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:55.040 first road sign they saw indicated they were over thirty 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:56.080 five miles away. 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:56.920 From just moments ago. 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:00.520 This missing time they experienced bothered the both of them. 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:04.720 Here's Betty Hill again explaining the instance of lost time 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:06.720 that both her and Barney experienced. 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.480 He put the car into GEA and we went speeding 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:15.320 down the highway. Barney said, when he came back, the 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:18.360 craft had followed and was now over the car. 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:20.200 So I looked up. 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.680 I looked out the window. All I could see was 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:27.760 something black, and at that point there was a series 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:32.080 of b being clowns and the car vibrated, and Bonnie 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:35.800 and I stopped talking. We drove along. There were spots 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:39.840 that I recognized they were familiar to me. Bonnie left 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:43.679 Root three, he turned on to Route one seventy five 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:47.200 and was still speeding along when all of a sudden, 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:50.600 Bonny slammed on the brakes, the car came to a 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:55.160 screeching halt. The next thing that I could remember, we're 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:59.520 back on RUT three, And I said to Barney, do 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:04.640 you believe been flying sauces? And Bonnie said, don't be ridiculous. 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:09.839 Barney and Betty gave the same story, and that the 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:13.200 dory was besides the like the story that had been 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:18.480 written up by the NYCAP investigator, there were no significant difference. 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:23.080 In fact, factually no differences between the three did they 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:27.800 gave consciously, They gave the exactly the thing story. There 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.600 was no difference that they both shared the same experience. 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:31.120 All the way. 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:35.080 They were visited by officers from the Air Force who 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:38.040 questioned them about the missing time. They seemed to really 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:40.600 push on that particular part of the story. How could 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.400 you travel thirty five miles with no memory of it? 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.640 The officers also inquired about nitrates, but the only thing 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:50.280 the Hills could think of that was strange in their 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:54.120 car was a few shotgun shells from Barney's gun and 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:57.320 a bag of bone meal fertilizer in the trunk. I 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.880 guess if you're looking for ways to rationally explain some 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:03.599 hallucination maybe accidentally ingesting. 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:06.720 This stuff could cause it. Either way, they were reaching 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:08.040 for anything that made sense. 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:13.880 They had six months of hypnosis sessions with doctor Benjamin Simon. 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:18.920 At times both of them were so distressed over what 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:23.360 was occurring that he feared that it might increase the 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:27.720 level of trauma, so he wanted to work through them 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:32.440 on reducing that level of trauma. In the beginning, he 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:36.640 took them separately, and he reinstated amnesia at the end 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:40.200 of each session so they couldn't share information. 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:44.760 During World War II, doctor Benjamin Simon served as the 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:49.040 Army's chief of Neuropsychiatry. He used something called regression therapy 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:52.800 more commonly known today as hypnosis in an attempt to 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:57.160 extract more detail from their alleged encounter. In regression therapy 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:00.800 sessions like this one, doctor Simon guides the PA and 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:03.760 points them towards the source of their traumas very deep 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:05.520 in their subconscious. 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:12.200 For sleep. You will unfeed anxious war is fat, but 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:16.440 he will remember everything, and you will tell me everything. 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:18.520 Yes. 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:23.559 Through several months of sessions, he slowly helped Betty and 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:26.400 Barney Hill remember what happened during their lost time. 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:32.360 Betty said, look, there's the thar moving. And then I 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:37.760 pulled over to the side of the road. Betty passed 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:42.199 his binoculars to meet. You can see the rows of waidows. 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:48.000 All right. He can't hear any sound. You don't sound whatever. Alright, 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:53.000 he tad no noise. I want to hear a jet. 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:57.800 Why do you want to hear a jet? Because Betty 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:02.200 is making me mad because he shined it. 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:03.559 Look at that. 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:07.400 It's straining that it's not a plane. Look at it, 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.679 and I keep thinking it's got to be. 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:16.480 Since these events, both Betty and Barney Hill have passed away, 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.960 even though they lived in the Northeast. This was during 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:21.560 the height of the civil rights movement, and because Betty 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:24.000 and Barney Hill were an interracial couple, they did not 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.240 want to be in the spotlight for their abduction story, 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:29.720 so they didn't even discuss it with their friends. The 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:33.079 story only became public after a reporter for the Boston 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:35.160 Globe got a hold of some notes that a UFO 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:40.040 researcher took while interviewing them in confidentiality. Barney states that 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:43.840 the object in the sky was making no noise. He 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:47.360 also claimed to experience some sort of time loss today 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.280 in twenty twenty three. These are all familiar themes we've 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:53.040 heard when it comes to UFO sightings. But the interesting 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:56.800 part of this is how long ago it happened. This 0:13:56.920 --> 0:14:00.439 was in nineteen sixty one, so over seventy years now, 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:03.080 and it's one of the first major claims of an 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:05.800 alien abduction on record in American history. 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:08.240 So you could argue that either. 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:11.400 The concept of time loss and hovering crafts that make 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:14.920 no sound all started right here and then evolved into 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:17.240 pop culture in such a way that literally hundreds of 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:20.040 other people in the years following began applying the same 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:23.040 idea to their own claims, or that whatever they did 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.640 experience that night truly involved those things. 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.000 Either way, it started right here. 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.440 If Betty and Barney Hill were making all this up 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:36.720 or simply hallucinating, then they still literally created the concept 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:40.840 of time loss and aircrafts that don't make noise. Maybe 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:43.760 they did truly experience this and everyone else is making 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.480 up their stories and were simply influenced by Betty and 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.800 Barney Hill, Or maybe there's a legitimate common thread here. 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:55.400 The following is the tape from Betty and Barney Hill's 0:14:55.440 --> 0:15:01.760 regression therapy sessions and I must warn you it is 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:06.200 very intense and may be triggering for some people. Listener 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:16.360 discretion is advised. One more warning about the intensity of 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:17.440 the tape you're about to hear. 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:29.200 I've got to get my gug. 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:56.360 All right, definitely calm now way back, you see we 0:15:56.480 --> 0:16:01.000 lack you will not have to make in the outside. 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.680 At this point in the tape, Barney again becomes overwhelmed 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:08.440 with fear and anxiety. This is actually why he started 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:11.280 seeing a psychiatrist in the first place. Ever since he 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:15.320 saw this UFO, he'd been plagued with severe anxiety, and 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:18.280 his first psychiatrist couldn't figure it out until he met 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:18.960 doctor Simon. 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:22.720 Keeps his memory, you feel you have to get your 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:24.360 gune its fund. 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:25.040 Of harm, and you sell. 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:29.000 I how couldn't the tncle might come? 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:31.160 Did I get it? 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:33.680 Did I get back into calm? 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:34.920 Did I put it? 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:36.440 Did I call it? 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:38.320 Is it? 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:39.240 I get out. 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:41.400 Where the bonca is? 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:44.920 I walk it out. 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:51.200 And I because the road never even it up there 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:58.160 anything now I know and there plus we did to 0:16:58.200 --> 0:16:59.520 sing it. But it's not going to hurt you. 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:00.280 Go on. 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:07.360 I can see it chilts toward me, tilted as much 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:10.280 does it looks like Now when you say tilted, did 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:11.880 you see it? 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:15.600 Looks like a big handcake. 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:22.359 With windows and lights and rolls of windows like a 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:26.080 commercial clinging. They're not like a commercial plane because they 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:35.280 curved around to the size of this pancake. Green eyes 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:40.399 are there always, the eyes are there, and they're telling 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:42.520 me I don't have. 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:43.240 To be afraid. 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:47.200 How did you see these figures so clearly as that district. 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:52.000 I was looking at him with binoculars. Yeah, his eyes 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:53.440 were planted. 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:54.200 I see it. 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:57.520 Oh his eyes head did this. 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:03.520 Creature, this leader is telling me something? How how did 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.600 he getting it to you? I can see it in 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:07.200 his spades? 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:09.560 You would see you move? 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:15.680 Yes, now the tip start moving's going. He's telling you 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:20.640 something and he's looking at me. How could you'd be doing? 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:27.360 He was telling you that guy there was the guys 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:35.199 you more. What did he tell you? Stay there and 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:41.840 keep looking? That's keep looking and stay there and just 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:42.679 keep looking. 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:47.120 Yes, just keep looking? He could you hear eachell? Oh, 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:51.200 I got a pulling pinoculars. Wait for my eyes because 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:52.240 if I don't, I'll. 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:55.320 Just keep staying there. Look you heary tell you that? 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:55.880 Oh? 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:57.479 No, he didn't say it. 0:18:57.880 --> 0:18:59.000 You felt you tell it. 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:01.439 I know you did. 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:08.439 Yeah, stay there, he saying to you, I'll taking my 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:10.680 head and pulled up a dock. 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:21.919 Little boy, God give me his tread all right, dun't 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:23.280 work job, give me dake. 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:37.800 I gotta get away. 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:34.600 All right, Calm down, I'm getting. 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:46.400 So what was it that Barney was actually looking at 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:50.840 through the binoculars. According to him, it was like whatever 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:53.840 he was seeing was communicating with him from up in 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:57.080 the sky. Barney got back in the car and drove 0:19:57.119 --> 0:19:59.320 down the road with Betty in the passenger seat to 0:19:59.359 --> 0:19:59.919 get out of there. 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:05.240 They sleep a little over. Ounce we'll get put all right. 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:10.879 I don't have to be agreed. But they won't. 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:15.600 Talk to me. Who won't talk to you? The man 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:19.760 they are standing in the road, is there an accident 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:20.679 down the road? 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:25.280 They stumbled upon a strange roadblock out in the middle 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:25.800 of nowhere. 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:27.960 Where are you? 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:32.040 You're in the car? I sat a good food ran 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:39.000 and they were standing in that highway, and I say, strange. 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:46.040 I am only thinking of mental pictures because my eyes 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:51.200 are cold, and I think I am going. 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:52.639 Up. 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:58.719 Doctor Benjamin Simon's process was a slow one, but throughout 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:01.520 six months of therapy, he was able to piece together 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:04.520 the whole story of the roadblock, with Bonnie only remembering 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:07.640 pieces of it at a time. 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:12.080 I don't want to be operating. You don't want to 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:16.600 be operated on? What makes you think of an operation? 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:21.800 I was thinking about this, and I was lying on 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:25.480 my stomach pit looking with each end of the road. 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:30.080 At what point did they played? They took me and 0:21:30.600 --> 0:21:36.280 carried me this ramp. I was playing on the table 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:45.720 and my client was opening, and I thought, are putting 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:54.240 a pepper around my prior tribes. If I keep real 0:21:54.440 --> 0:22:02.280 quiet and you're real still, I won't think hard and 0:22:02.280 --> 0:22:03.120 it will be over. 0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:10.080 In all these sessions, Barney never fully remembers what happened 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:10.760 on the table he. 0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:11.199 Was put on. 0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:20.600 I opened my eyes and there's the car and the 0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:26.960 lights are on and it is not running, and I 0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:33.320 see Betty is coming down the raid. He gets him 0:22:33.560 --> 0:22:38.399 to the car, and I am grinning at her, and 0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:44.840 she is grinning back at me, and we both seem 0:22:45.000 --> 0:22:52.160 so elated. How funny, I have no reason to fair. 0:22:54.200 --> 0:23:01.200 And we look with him, and I think a bright moan, 0:23:02.640 --> 0:23:18.280 and I laugh and say, well, there it goes. I 0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:21.320 never believed in flying starters, but I don't know. 0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:23.760 I don't know where they came from. 0:23:24.640 --> 0:23:26.040 You wish you had gone with them? 0:23:26.720 --> 0:23:26.960 Yes? 0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:35.640 Well, yeah, very interesting coats some distant plant. All right, 0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:40.880 they'll stop there. It'll be calm and relaxed. You'll forget 0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:44.159 everything we have had on me until I asked you 0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:45.200 to recall it again. 0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:47.600 And they wait down? 0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:53.159 Wow, I can't little to three? 0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:54.760 Can you bring me in here? 0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:55.200 Ten minutes? 0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:56.880 Top three? 0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:00.760 Yes, how do you hail? 0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:05.800 All right? Don't continue that. 0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:09.480 We wait from today. 0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:23.560 Just like Barney, Betty underwent her own hypnosis sessions. The 0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:26.879 anxiety that Betty was experiencing came in the form of 0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:30.280 vivid dreams, and these started immediately after the night of 0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:30.880 the incident. 0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:32.920 I don't know where we are. 0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:35.000 Hell, don't you even know how? 0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:41.600 I'm just assure you feeling your so that happens. I'm 0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:43.200 not really sed to afraid. 0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:46.520 Why are you crying if you're not afraid? I was 0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:49.000 afraid when I thought the bit of the rose, the 0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:49.800 man in the rope. 0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:52.320 Tell me about the men in the mass. 0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:57.560 That's all right, now, you're safe here. Tell me about 0:24:57.560 --> 0:24:59.760 the men in the roads. We went out of this 0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:04.080 narrow road. It was these men. 0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:06.920 Standing in the highway. 0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:12.359 He sat the casts. These fatis would come up to 0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:13.080 this pass. 0:25:14.560 --> 0:25:15.879 I get real scared. 0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:20.239 Fannie tried to fat the cast. He did what did 0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:23.960 he try to? Sat the car at walk fats just 0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:26.120 the opposite cat doors. 0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:27.840 Go off. 0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:34.040 You can remember everything, though, he says, don't be afraid. 0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:38.600 You don't form any reason to be afraid. Went not 0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:39.600 great to pause you. 0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:44.760 We just wanted to use the path with a champ 0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:47.560 of rope, which would take you a Saudi back it 0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:48.879 put you with your cass. 0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:55.960 You'll be I give way. These mens focutingh he had 0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:56.640 an accent. 0:25:57.920 --> 0:26:09.600 He's a dish an ex So there was Jeff's orgy. 0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:16.960 We came to that's clearing. The object was on the grab. 0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:18.800 The object was on the room. 0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:20.720 Yeah, I think it was a state. 0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:22.120