1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Oiling gas. They're the bag problem. That's what's come out 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: of the World Economic Forum. Al Gore, also, by the way, 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: lost his you know what yesterday at this forum, screaming 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: about boiling the oceans. Yes, we're now boiling the oceans. 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: You ready for this? Pay attentions? Are you ready? I 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: want to make sure you got your finger on the 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: dumb button here, because you never know what's going to 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: come out of al Gore's mouth as he tells you 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: the boiling oceans are boiling. I'll turn it over. Thank 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,639 Speaker 1: you very much, Antonia. Thank you for the work that 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: you do and that you and your colleagues do here 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: at the WEFF, and thank you all very much for coming. 13 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to zip through this presentation because I always 14 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: start by setting the context. This is the famous earthrise 15 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: picture from the first mission that went far enough out 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: in space to see the earth floating hole. And this 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: is the famous blue marble that was taken on the 18 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: last Apollo mission, and it sets the context for a 19 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: discussion of how to track the emissions that are called 20 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: the climate crisis. I usually start with a lot of 21 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: images that illustrate all the horrible damage that's being done 22 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: around the world. I've only selected eight or ten off 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: of them here. I used to go back, you know, 24 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: years ago, there was this, decades ago, there was this. 25 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: I can do it just last week and now or yesterday, 26 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: and actually in California. This is an atmospheric river from 27 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: Hawaii two and a half thousand kilometers to California, and 28 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: this is the moisture that it contains. And the reason 29 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: it contains that much moisture is that we're trapping as 30 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: much extra heat with a greenhouse gases as would be 31 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: released by six hundred thousand herosi mclass atomic bombs exploding 32 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: every twenty four hours on the Earth and ninety three 33 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: it goes into the ocean and it's boiling the oceans. 34 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: That's a metaphorical phrase, but it's not far off, and 35 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: the water vapor is increasing quite dramatically, and so these 36 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: atmospheric rivers are much larger now and you get these 37 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: rain bombs And for the last did you hear the 38 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: very end there like this, dude's crazy. I'm going to 39 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: back that up just a tad. Listen to this nut 40 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: job every twenty four hours on the Earth and it 41 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: goes into the ocean and it's boiling the oceans. That's 42 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: a metaphorical phrase, but it's not far off. And the 43 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: water vapor is increasing quite dramatically, and so these atmospheric 44 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: rivers are much larger now, So another one. You're all 45 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: going to die. That's what he's saying. We're boiling the oceans, folks. 46 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: That's where metaphorically, of course, metaphor. Isn't this the guy 47 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: that came out with his show, right and didn't he 48 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: like his movie? Did he got didn't he get an 49 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: oscar or some crap for that, right? You know? And 50 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: he said we're all going to die in ten years. Yeah, 51 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: that didn't happen. That was like twenty years ago. Dude's 52 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: an idiot. Al Gore also said the greatest threat to 53 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: the global economy is I want you to guess this 54 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: is how it makes living down? What do you think? 55 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: Climate change? Ummer was the hottest in Europe. Here in 56 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: Switzerland it was the hottest year ever recorded in history, 57 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: along with all these other countries Germany, China, etc. And 58 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: speaking of China, the heat wave in China was the hottest, 59 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: worst heat wave in recorded history. And the historians say 60 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: that there is nothing even minimally comparable to what happened 61 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: in China last year. And in addition to disrupting the 62 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: water cycle with these atmospheric rivers and rain bombs, it 63 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: sucks the moisture out of the land and you get 64 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: droughts simultaneously. This is one of the rivers in China 65 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: and of many of the great rivers. So we're sucking 66 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: the water out of the earth. Let's just be clear 67 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: about this, because he found a drought somewhere in the world, 68 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: and then we're boiling the water in other parts of 69 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: the earth. So literally, not metaphorically, but metaphorically, but I literally. 70 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: And in twenty twenty two is the hottest year ever 71 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: recorded here in Switzerland and at least twenty seven other countries. 72 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: What does that mean? There was also some coldest years 73 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: ever on fire. I just got to ask, we don't 74 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: put that up there up Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Belgium, 75 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: in the UK, Ireland, Croatia, Slakia, Kanzania, Tanzania, Morocco, New 76 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: Zealand and China. I will never not say China like 77 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: like Donald Trump, like there's if there's a legacy that 78 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: Donald Trump will leave behind. It's no it used to 79 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: be You're fired, right, No, China, I just sometimes missed 80 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: the way he said China. So he says, in the 81 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: southwest United States, the last two decades have been the 82 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: driest in at least twelve hundred years. Prove it. How 83 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: do you know that twelve hundred years? They don't. They 84 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: just make up crap and throw it on a screen 85 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: at the World Economic Forum. Tigers euphrates in the southwestern 86 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: United States. So this is now being called the millennium drought. 87 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: And of course the food consequences are very dire. The 88 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: war in Ukraine, the evil invasion of Ukraine by Russia, 89 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: has worsened these but they were already there because of 90 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: the climate crisis. So we live on an earth that 91 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: is under se each and it's costing an increasing amount 92 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: each year in the last decade two and a half 93 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: trillion dollars, an increase of one trillion over the previous 94 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: ten years in the one trillion dollars. So did you 95 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: hear notice that all went back to the money, right, 96 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: This is really all about the money. The extreme weather 97 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: disasters cost the global economy two point one trillion the 98 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: last decade. And he says, that's up. Oh, you know 99 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: x and rebillion over the previous ten years. Could it 100 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: be because it costs more to fix stuff now than 101 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: it did to cost to fix stuff in the eighties. 102 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 1: Is there a chance that Did they take that math 103 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: and did they adjust it for inflation? Did they adjust 104 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: it for new pricing? Of course, not right, because this 105 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: is what you call cooking the books. If there's anything 106 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: that's boiling here, it's there's stats trillion over the previous 107 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: ten years. In the annual report put out by the 108 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: WEFT here in Davos each year, the greatest threat to 109 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: the global economy is the climate crisis. Well there you 110 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: go there, all right, So you're not that's it when 111 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: you don't sleep at night. No, it's because you're worrying 112 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: about the global economy. That's what this really is all about. 113 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: So you figured it out. That's in America. He's done it. 114 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: He's just twenty years later than he said he was 115 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: going to be and it's still not happening. But they're 116 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: freaking you out. Coffee. If you're drinking coffee this morning, 117 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: you're going to hell. He is. You're going to hell 118 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: in a whole special way because you're on cup number 119 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: two or three right now, coffee is now a cause 120 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: of death for the not economy, not your personal health, 121 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: It's a cause of death for climate change. This is 122 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: coming from a new very important report coffees contribution to 123 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: climate change is just the tip of the iceberg, and 124 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: whose study says the research suggests that limiting your coffee 125 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: intake is part of the solution to fight climate change. 126 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: This coming out of tax dollars spending Canada Canada. Researchers 127 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: analyze coffee's contributions to climate change, and a piece published 128 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 1: yesterday suggested that people moderate rate their consumption of the 129 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: popular drink is part of the solution. Researchers with a 130 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: bunch of names you don't care about so I won't 131 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: read them wrote an analysis published in the Conversation that 132 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: pollution from preparing coffee was just quote, the tip of 133 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: the iceberg. They demand that you limit your contribution to 134 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: climate change, and that requires you to adapt a diet, 135 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: and that diet coffee is no exception. Choosing a mode 136 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: of coffee preparation that emits less gh gs, that's greenhouse gases, 137 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: and moderating your consumption or part of the solution. This 138 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: is not a joke because The researchers said that when 139 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:49,239 Speaker 1: you drink coffee, you also take larger moments on the potty, 140 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: and your greenhouse gas admissions from said potty is hurting 141 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: the environment. That's it. So the study also found that 142 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: using coffee pods is another major factor that is killing 143 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: the environment. Diaza showed me his stirefunk coffee. You are 144 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: going to coffee hell. The study also found that using 145 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: coffee pods the brewed coffee contributed less to the carbon 146 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: foot print than brewing coffee with a traditional filter. Well, no, no, no, 147 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: you're not the onod jet. However, the plastic around the 148 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: pod actually does more damage, so you're screwed again. R 149 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: nowisis clearly shows that traditional filter coffee has the highest 150 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: carbon footprint, mainly because a greater quantity of coffee powder 151 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: is used to produce the amount of coffee. This process 152 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: also consumes more electricity to heat the water and keep 153 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: it warm. The researchers demand that the world changed right now. 154 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: The researchers compared brewing with coffee pods brewing coffee to 155 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: tradial way a coffee maker brewing coffee with a French 156 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: press and using instant coffee would have on the environment. 157 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: By the way, if you just want to know the 158 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: moment in your life where you're a failure, If your 159 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: job had anything to do with this research, you're a failure. 160 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: Like I can't imagine there's certain people I am not. 161 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: When I retire from this job, I'm going to do 162 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: stand up and this is going to be in there. 163 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: I cannot be friends with stupid people. And this is 164 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,479 Speaker 1: the new list. If your life work as a researchers 165 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: a doctor, as you spent all these years in school, 166 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: and I ask you what do you do and you go, oh. 167 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: I compare the coffee pods brewing coffee traditional ways which 168 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: a coffee maker brewing coffee with a French presson using 169 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: inst coffee affect the environment and the more or less 170 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 1: electricity to heat the water and keep it warm, and 171 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: the process also consumes the byproduct and the highest carbon footprint, 172 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: mainly because a greater quality of coffee powder is used 173 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: a produce the amount of coffee. We're not compatible, You're 174 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: a failure. In my book, our analysis clearly shows the 175 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: traditional filter coffee has the highest carbon footprint. They found 176 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: the instant coffee was ready for this. The most environment, 177 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: He sound, My question is how did I'm trying to think, 178 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: how I can pc say this? Okay, So did they 179 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: compare all the human gas admissions from each form of coffee, 180 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: Because if they're going to tell you that coffee in 181 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: general is making you have too much greenhouse gas coming 182 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: out of your self, then did they analyze said greenhouse 183 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: gases with brood coffee, pod coffee, instant coffee, cold brew coffee. 184 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: If you're really gonna go all in on the research, 185 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: then you should have that in the report, which we 186 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: do not see. D says he read the whole report 187 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: and it was not in there. All right, Well, at 188 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: least you did your research for once. Coffee production also 189 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: contributes more to contribute to total admissions than coffee preparation. 190 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: According to the analysis quote, this mechanism, irrigation and use 191 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: of nitrous oxide admitting fertilizers, the production of which requires 192 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: large quantities of natural gas, greatly contributed coffee's carbon footprint. 193 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: The researcher said, So, if you could stop drinking coffee altogether, 194 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: that actually is what they're recommending now for the environment. 195 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: The researchers also added that the convenience of coffee pods 196 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: might lead people to double their coffee consumption, which they 197 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: say is damning for the environment. And they said, clearly, 198 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: this is a redundance factor here that should disappear. The 199 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,599 Speaker 1: study found that drinking oneted two cups of coffee a 200 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: day may benefit your health, but it will destroy the world. 201 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: The American College of Cardiology found in a recent study 202 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: released in March of last year that coffee was associated 203 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: with the reduced risk of heart disease and dangerous heart rhythms. 204 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: But who cares because you got to stop your greenhouse 205 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: gas or gas or consumption of said coffee for gas. Yeah, 206 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: you're all terrible people if you're drinking coffee right now. Also, 207 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna call this utter madness. You're gonna get the joke. 208 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: You're ready for this. Das is laughing already. A far 209 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: is now speaking out, and if you'll dump that, Das 210 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: a stupid audio here, sorry, coming through that right to 211 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: the heart. There we go. Now you can dump it. 212 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: There is a farmer who is now speaking out, and 213 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: a farmer wants you to know that you need to 214 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: start putting diapers on your cows to contain the methane admissions. Yes, 215 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: this is a real thing from global Warmingly take a listen. 216 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: They're being told they have to sabotage their own operations 217 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: or else they're destroying the planet and they'll be crushed 218 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: by black rock. Here's the latest example. The French dairy 219 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: giant Dinne says it plans to put masks and diapers 220 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: on cows to trap their flatulence and burps to reduce 221 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: methane emissions. So is this some kind of French postmodern 222 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: play on global warming theology? Is this absurdism at work? 223 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: Or are they being serious? We're not sure. We thought 224 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: we checked with an actual farmer about whether it'll work. 225 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: Stephaniely A Nash is a farmer in this date of Tennessee. 226 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: She joins us to assess, Stephanie, you're a dairy farmer. 227 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: You've got a lot of cows behind you. Do you 228 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: think this would actually work? Would you do it to 229 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: your cows? Well, Tucker, you know I'm not going to 230 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: wear a mask. I'm not going to allow my cows 231 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: to wear a mask. I'll show you right now what 232 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 1: we're dealing with. Right now, we tried to put one on. 233 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: So she's not having it. She is struggling to breathe, 234 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: and you know, it just doesn't make sense to put 235 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: a mask on a cow. So what you're saying is 236 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: that cows have more self respect than most people. Can 237 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: we just stop for a second and just think about 238 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: where we are in America today that we are actually 239 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: having to have debates And she say, it just doesn't 240 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: and someone added say it we have to go lie 241 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: to a dairy cow person, and we've got to ask 242 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: the dairy cow person like, hey, do you think that 243 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: it's do you think that it's a good eye to 244 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: put mass on cows? No, it just doesn't make sense 245 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: to put mass on cows. That's not something we should 246 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: probably do here. It's probably a bad idea. We believe 247 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: that this is going to make the cows struggle to breathe. 248 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: And there's also I just have a question if the 249 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: methane gas comes out and hits said mask, then what happens? Listen? 250 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: So what you're saying is that cows have more self 251 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: respect than most people in midtown Manhattan on lunch break, 252 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: Like they're just not going to be masked. Yeah, I mean, 253 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: you know, I think it's crazy. I'm a big advocate 254 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: for agriculture and what we do on our dairy farm. 255 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,479 Speaker 1: Not only are we doing big things to cut emissions, 256 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: we have ruminants on our farm that can digest byproducts. 257 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: A good example is we feed our cows soybean mill 258 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: that comes from soy oil production. And you have to 259 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: ask yourself millions of tons per year if we don't 260 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: have cows to digest that byproduct, it has to go somewhere. 261 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: It has to go to a landfill, it has to 262 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: go on you know, into a waste management and that's 263 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: going to be very harmful. That's going to leave an imprint, 264 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: you know, for our country, and gas is going into 265 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: our environment. Well. Speaking of byproducts, and I don't want 266 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: to get too specific here because this is a family show, 267 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: but you're very familiar with cows. The idea of putting 268 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: a diaper on a cow given the daily production of 269 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: a cow, I mean, is that feasible? How big would 270 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: the diaper bee? Is this a joke? I mean, could 271 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: you do that? Would you do that? Yeah? I think 272 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: these people have gone to looneytown. There's no possible way 273 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: that I'm going to put a diaper on my cow. 274 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: She has to be able to walk around, lay down, eat, drink, water, 275 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: and that's going to make it impossible for her to 276 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: be comfortable as a cow. You know, our animals are 277 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: under the best stewardship and we want them to be 278 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: as comfortable as possible. And telling me how to do 279 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: my job is not the way to, you know, eliminate emissions. 280 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: We have to be smart about this. We have to 281 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: listen to the former rancher and what is best for 282 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: our animals, not if you're a Davos. By the way, 283 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: if you're a Davos, they want to actually put on 284 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: your all cows and the world diapers now to save 285 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: the environment. So remember that dude named Mevedev who Al 286 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: Gore leaned over too. I'm sorry that was Barack Obama line. 287 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, man, once I win election, tell 288 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: your dude Putin over there. I'm gonna have more flexibility 289 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: to do some stuff with him. Tell him to calm down, 290 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: don't don't blow anything up. Remember that conversation. Yeah, did 291 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: they impeach him over that right now? No, of course not, 292 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: because that was all good. Vladimir Putin's ally, he's back. 293 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: He's now the deputy chair of Russia's Security Council. Mevedev 294 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: he gave an interview outside of Russia, and it wasn't 295 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: looking good for the rest of the world. Form a 296 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: Russian president Dmitri Mevedev and ally of the Kremlin chief 297 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin, has now come out in a very calm 298 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: I love how they do this, like I'd like to 299 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: be I'd like to be interviewed today. Okay, sure, we'll 300 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: get you somebody that's a you know, wants to chat 301 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: with you. Great. What would you like to say? I 302 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: just want you to know we're probably going to nuke 303 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 1: you all. That's pretty much what the interview was. He 304 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: warned all of NATO, okay, every country in NATO that 305 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: the defeat of Russia in Ukraine more than like we 306 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: will trigger in nuclear war. So I guess are we 307 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: supposed to? I mean, I'm trying to figure out the 308 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: logic here for Putin? All right? Is he saying stay 309 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: out of it? Or is he saying that you have 310 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: to join the Russians and killing the Ukrainians and Zelenski 311 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: because if you don't, I'm probably gonna kill all of 312 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: you like silence, I kill you, right? What is it here? Like? 313 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: I still can't figure out what he's asking for so 314 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: this is a striking similar tone of what he described 315 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: as an a an anxious time of the country. The 316 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: head of the Russian Orthodox Church said, quote, trying to 317 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: destroy Russia with me the end of the world. And 318 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: that's the Orthodox Church saying that. So, I mean, I 319 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: know they're controlled by Russia, but you got to understand 320 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 1: the rhetoric here is changing very quickly. That's probably the 321 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: best way I can describe this, like, this is not 322 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: what you want to hear Russia since they invaded Ukraine. 323 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: Mevedev has repeatedly raised the threat of a nuclear apocalypse, 324 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: but admission now the possibility of a Russia defeat indicates 325 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: the level of Moscow's concern over increased Western weapons deliveries 326 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: to Ukraine. The defeat quote of a nuclear power in 327 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: a conventional war may trigger a nuclear war, he reiterated, 328 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: just to make sure you understood, like he's not screwing around. 329 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: We lose, you all die. This is a hostage situation 330 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: for the world. Mevedev serves to the deputy chairman Putin's 331 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: powerful Security Council. He also said in a post on telegram, 332 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: nuclear powers have never lost major conflicts on which their 333 00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: fate depends, Mevedev said, NATO and other defense leaders due 334 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: to meet at an air base in Germany on Friday. 335 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: We'll talk about strategy and support for the West attempts 336 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: to defeat Russian. Ukraine should think about the risk of 337 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: their policy. Russia and the United States, by far the 338 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: largest nuclear powers, hold around ninety percent of the world's 339 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: nuclear warheads. He rewinded the world putin and is the 340 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: ultimate decision maker on the use of nuclear weapons. Asked 341 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: if Mevede's remarks signified that Russia was escalating the crisis 342 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: to a new level, Kremlin's spokesman said, no, absolutely does 343 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: not mean that. Oh okay, that makes me feel better, 344 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: he said. Mevedev's remarks were in full accordance with Russia's 345 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: nuclear doctrine, which allows for a nuclear strike after aggression 346 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: against the Russian Federation with conventional weapons when the very 347 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: existence of the state is threatened. Well, Nat, by the way, 348 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: that's a brilliant use of nuclear weapons. If you're Russia, like, 349 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: it's like, look, if we lose, we kill you. If 350 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: you don't give us what we want, we kill you. 351 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: And if you shoot at us with a gun, we 352 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: kill you. And if we don't kill you with our 353 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: normal weapons in our military we just knuke you. In 354 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: other words, if we can't have Ukraine, no one can 355 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: asked if Mebane's remarks signified a new policy, they also 356 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: said no. Now, these remarks were in full accordance with 357 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: Russia's nuclear doctor, and he said again, NATO, by the way, 358 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: has conventional military superiority over Russia. When it comes to 359 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: nuclear weapons. Russia has nuclear superiority over the Alliance in Europe. 360 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: So I'll just knuke anywhere I want to, that is, 361 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: in a place where I can't knuke you. Putin cass 362 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: Russia's special military Operation Ukraine is in the existential battle 363 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: with an aggressive and arrogant West, and has said that 364 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: Russia will use all available means to protect itself and 365 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: its people, calling this a quote alarming time. Now Russia's 366 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: one year anniversary's coming up of this military conflict. It's 367 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: amazing how as this happens. Russia invaded on the twenty 368 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: fourth in Ukraine. It's now triggered one of the deadliest 369 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: European conflicts since World War Two, to put in perspective, 370 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: and the biggest confrontation between Moscow and the West since 371 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: the nineteen sixty two Cuban missile crisis. It's almost like 372 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: Putin was bored one day. He's like, all I went 373 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: to battle. I am bored. I'm dying, I'm getting old. 374 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: I want to put the USSR back together. I really 375 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: want a new legacy here. And this is how I'm 376 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: gonna do it. Let's go blow some you know what up. 377 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: The United States and its allies have condemned Russia's invasion 378 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: of Ukraine, and we are now sending tanks to Ukraine 379 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: because this couldn't get us into World War three. They 380 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: vowed to fight until the last Russian soldiers ejected from 381 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: the territory. The head of the Russian Orthodox Church said 382 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: in a sermon on Sunday, we pray to the Lord 383 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: ready for this, that he brings the madman to reason. 384 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: He's not talking about Putin, by the way, He's talking 385 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: about us, and help them understand that any desire to 386 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: stroy Russia will mean the end of the world. It's 387 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 1: looking promising right now, folks, But don't worry. Were hey, 388 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: by the way, in our foreign policy, if you want 389 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: to know, we got this, we got this because we 390 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: got Brittany Grinder back in the biggest trade in NBA history. 391 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: So there's that today, there's an alarming time. State news 392 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: agency RIA quoted him as saying, but we believe the 393 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: Lord will not leave Russia's land. Not backing down is 394 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: also what Mevedev said when talking about this. Since a 395 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: Graham New Year's Eve message describing the West as Russia's 396 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: true enemy in the war on Ukraine, Putin has sent 397 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: several signals that Russia will not back down. He has 398 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: dispatched hypersonic missiles to the Atlantic and appointed his top 399 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: general to run the war. Putin said on Wednesday that 400 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: Russia's powerful military industrial complex was ramping up production and 401 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: was one of the main reasons why his country would 402 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:51,719 Speaker 1: prevail in Ukraine. Washington is not detailed in public what 403 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: it would do if Putin ordered, and it would be 404 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: the first use of nuclear weapons in war since the 405 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: United States dropped the atomic bomb attacks on Japanese series 406 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: season here Shima, Nagasaki in nineteen forty five. To put 407 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: in perspective, one other thing here when they said they're 408 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: ramping up production. So there is and I know way 409 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: more now than ever I ever could have imagined about AMMO. 410 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: And there is a've broadcasting a shot show. It's the largest. 411 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: If you ever watch War Dogs in that movie, they 412 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: went to Vegas to go try to find millions and 413 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: millions of rounds of AMMO in that deal that they 414 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: were doing. It great movie. You should watch it. It's 415 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,479 Speaker 1: really interesting and intriguing. Its true story. And I've got 416 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: a lot of friends out there this week and i 417 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: went last year, but I don't usually go every single year. 418 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: And when you own a gun store, this is where 419 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: you go to see what's new. Everything else. Well, all 420 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 1: of them have been texted me saying, it's very interesting 421 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: to see what's happening in the AMMO industry all of 422 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: a sudden, because one there's embargoes and there's a lot 423 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: of AMMA that comes out of Russia, and Russia AMO 424 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: people are there trying to make deals around the world 425 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: like that don't care about US sanctions. They I mean, 426 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: they don't. They fly in America, they connect with different people. 427 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: And they said that all the Russian AMMO in the 428 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: world now has just disappeared, which does lend weight to 429 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: what Putin said about Russia's powerful military industry complexes. It's 430 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: ramping up production and they're holding all of it back. Now, 431 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: usually they sell a ton of ammo to the world. 432 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: There's a lot of Russian made ammo that hits the 433 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: markets and it's been in stores. You probably shot Russian 434 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: ammo didn't even know it. If you've shot guns before, 435 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: you may not like to hear that, but it's the 436 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: truth because it's something they produce, they produce it well, 437 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: and they produce a lot. They produce a lot of Akamo, 438 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: for example, and they said it's completely dried up in 439 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: the in the international market, and that means that Putin 440 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: is clearly hoarding this stuff thinking he's going to be 441 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: in some wild War three. That concerns me. Now. Washington, 442 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: by the way, has not detailed in public what it 443 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: would do if Putin ordered a nuclear strike. The US 444 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: Central and Eeligence Agency director has been too busy silencing 445 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: right conservatives on Twitter to really be worrying about Putin. 446 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: They have not said anything, but they did caution putin 447 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: spy chief in November about the consequence of any use 448 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: of nuclear weapons by Russia. The questions, do you really 449 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: believe that America is going to go to World War 450 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: three with Russia if they use a nuclear weapon? Ukraine's 451 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: and do you think the EU or NATO or anybody 452 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: else is going to stand out to Russian and get 453 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: to war war three? That's where Putin could actually have 454 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: a nuclear strike and there's no one main enough to 455 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: say no. That scares That's the scariest scenario for me. Now. 456 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: To put it respective quickly, Russia has five thousand, nine 457 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy seven nuclear warheads. The US has less 458 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: than that. We have five thousand, four hundred and twenty eight, 459 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: China has three hundred and fifty and Frances two hundred 460 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: and ninety, and the United Kingdom has two hundred and 461 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: twenty five. According to the Federation of American Scientists, Mevedev, 462 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: who's fifty seven, who once preside himself as a reformer 463 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: who was ready to work with the United States to 464 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: liberate Russia, has recast himself since the war, is the 465 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: most publicly hawkish member of Putin circles, saying let's nuke everybody. 466 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: He said the nuclear risk of Ukraine crisis should be 467 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,719 Speaker 1: obvious to any Western politicians who had preserved preserved at 468 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: least some traces of intelligence quote unquote, I see this 469 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: is where I know like I'm like, I'm too American. 470 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: Like if you said, go into a room with Vladimir 471 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: Putin and Medvedev and you get to pick another dude, 472 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 1: and y'all just fight to the death, I feel like 473 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: I would kill them just out of pure rage. Like 474 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: these guys are mad men that are gonna get the 475 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: world into an actual cold like like All War three 476 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: if we're not smart. And there's too many stupid leaders 477 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: in the UK area Europe who won his oil and gas, 478 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: so they're not standing up to this madman. This is 479 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: exactly what happened when people didn't stand up to Hitler. 480 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: This is how it went down. Be eyes a head, dude. Ray, 481 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: Christopher Ray's talking now as we speak about Russia. He 482 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: was speaking at UM, the World Economic Forum, and he 483 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: had this to say about Russian bot net farms not 484 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: worried about nuclear war, worried about their computers and their 485 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: bots who are saying things on that then their Internet. 486 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: You know that al Gore. It is interesting that al 487 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: Gore create the Internet, of course, and now he's telling 488 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: us that we're all gonna die from global warming. Like 489 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: this dude is smart. Well you should probably listen to him, 490 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: right because remember al Gore create the Internet. People that 491 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: are younger right now like that, you know what's happening. 492 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: They're googling who is al Gore? And did al Gore 493 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: invin the Internet? No, he did not. And he was 494 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: a former president under Bill Clinton. I don't know, can 495 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: you say that that's probably I probably need to clarify 496 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: that he wasn't technically under Bill Clinton. He was. He 497 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: was the vice president to Bill Clinton. You got to 498 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 1: clarify when you're dealing with Bill Clinton. Now here's the 499 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: FBI director. He's either once you know, he's a serious 500 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: guy with a serious broadening out that infrastructure discussion. You know, 501 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: Ukraine has been a kind of a Russian testing ground 502 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 1: for cyber attacks and infrastructure since long before this war, 503 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: and we saw times when large parts or chunks of 504 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: the Ukraine empower grid were taken out by Russian cyber 505 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: attack and that raised concerns of the same thing happening 506 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: in other countries. So, given what Jake is saying about 507 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: how we are we are learning about infrastructure vulnerability but 508 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: also about resilience and how to protect it better as 509 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 1: a result of this war, thinking about the fact that 510 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: more and more infrastructure control systems are computerized, are accessible remotely, 511 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: therefore vulnerable to cyber attack. Thinking about the fact that 512 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: autonomous vehicles and drones of one kind or another being 513 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: used in inspections or being used for monitoring create a 514 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: further attack surface, potentially for cybersecurity. So when you think 515 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: of all of those things together, director, does it make 516 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: you feel like US infrastructure specifically or infrastructure in general, 517 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: is becoming more vulnerable or less vulnerable? Are we getting 518 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: better at anticipating these threats or are they multiplying? And 519 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: how do we think about ensuring that security in the future. Bither, 520 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: If you ever want to know if people love hearing 521 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: themselves talk while they're on a panel, that guy right 522 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: there just gets an award. Let me let me, let 523 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: me let me ask you a question, sir. It's going 524 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: to take me four to five minutes to ask you 525 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: said question because I want to make sure I can 526 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: put this on so Shyle media afterwards. The brilliance of 527 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: my question to you, mister Ray, that's what you just heard. 528 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: So now here's Ray's answer. Yes yes. He just goes yes, yes, 529 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: And the guy's like he looks like a moron. By 530 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: the way, on the world economic stage. He's like, Okay, 531 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: I look stupid, but he'll laugh at himself and then 532 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: would continue. On the one hand, the attack surface, as 533 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: you say, is significantly broadening. The range of attack methods 534 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: is significantly increasing, both in quantity and quality. On the 535 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: other hand, I think the sophistication of the private sector 536 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: is improving, and particularly important, the level of collaboration between 537 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: the private sector and the government, especially the FBI, has 538 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: I think made significant strides. We are focused, you know, 539 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: looking at at cyber attacks, looking at what's happening in 540 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: the Ukraine. We did see as the conflict erupted and 541 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: increased effort by the Russian intelligence services, which have been 542 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: conducting cyber malicious cyber activity against US infrastructure for years. 543 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: But we were increasingly concerned that the surveillance activity is scanning, 544 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: the research, all the preparatory activity that could be one thing, 545 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: could be an indication of something more serious. And so 546 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: the name of the game in terms of cyber from 547 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,479 Speaker 1: our perspective is to try to get to use a 548 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: terrorism analogy further left of boom. And that's why, for example, 549 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: we conducted a significant technical operation against a gru botant 550 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: in the early months of the conflict because we didn't 551 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: want to wait around to find out what they were 552 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: up to and what the ultimate intentions were. You know, 553 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: when you talk about autonomous vehicles, it's obviously something that 554 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: we're excited about just like everybody. But there are harms 555 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: that we have to guard against that are more than 556 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: just the obvious. One of them is the danger that 557 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: there could be ways to confuse or distort the algorithms 558 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: to cause physical harms. I'm thinking about a story I 559 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: heard not that long ago about the researchers who were 560 00:31:55,200 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: able to trick a self driving cars algorithm by essentially 561 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: putting a piece of black tape over a stop sign 562 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: and caused the car to accelerate by fifty miles an 563 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: hour or something. You know, it's a simple example, but 564 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: it's it shows kind of some of the harms that 565 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: we have to guard against. And then a different kind 566 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: of harm that we were concerned about is the enormous 567 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: amount of data that autonomous vehicles, for example, aggregate, and 568 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: anytime you aggregate lots and lots of sensitive data, it 569 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: makes a very tempting target. So thinking of electric vehicles, 570 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: autonomous vehicles as an attack surface of their own not 571 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: just in terms of destructive ability, but in terms of 572 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: the data that it aggregates and the harms that could 573 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: come from That is something that is very much on 574 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: our mind. Yeah, your your tax dollars went to send 575 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: FBI director Ray to Davos to talk about these cars. 576 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: That's what he just did. Your tax dollars full him 577 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: on a private probably G five jet to Davos. The 578 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: name of the game in terms of cyber defense from 579 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: our perspective, is to try to get to use a 580 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: terrorism analogy further left to boom. And that's why, for example, 581 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: we conducted a significant technical operation against the gru botnet 582 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: in the early months of the conflict because we didn't 583 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: want to wait a round to find out what they 584 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: were up to and what their ultimate intentions were. And 585 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: then he says, but let's get back to these autonomous vehicles, 586 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: because that's what we really need to talk about. Can 587 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: you imagine if you're Vladimir Putin Mevedev and you're watching 588 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: the FBI director and this is what he says he's 589 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: focused on, right, I mean, I mean, this is it, right, 590 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: this is what he's really focused on. If you vote 591 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: for these people, you're an idiot makes you share a podcast. 592 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: Please rise a five star review, hit that subscriber auto 593 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: DOWNO button, and I will see you back here tomorrow