1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashaan McDonald. I will know he's giving me 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: advice on many occasions. And in case you didn't notice, 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: I'm not broke. You know he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do, 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: it's what he likes to share. Now it's time to 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashaan McDonald money Making Conversations. Here 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: we go, absolutely absolutely welcome to Money Making Conversations masterclass. 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: As he stayed its stephen A. Smith, I am Rashaan McDonald, 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: and welcome to my show. I theme today is there 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: is no perfect time to start following your dreams because 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: I recognize that we all have different definitions of success. 14 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: For you, it may be the size of your paycheck. 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: Mine really is inspiring you to accomplish your goals and 16 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: live your very best life. Actually, it's time to start 17 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: reading other people's success stories and really start living your own. 18 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: People always talking about their purpose or gift. If you 19 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: have a gift, leave with your gift and don't let 20 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: your friends, family, or co workers stop you from planning 21 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: on living your dreams. My guests on the show today, 22 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: this one person about to bring up next is a 23 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: person who has not allowed those people to get in 24 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: the way of her dreams. My guest is Sherry Shepherd. 25 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: She's the new Queen of daytime Talk Sherry and nac 26 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: Image Award winning show one this year Outstanding talk show 27 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: series where she carries her comedic takes on or shares 28 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: her comedic takes on various topics like laugh Lounge, Best 29 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: Life series. She's a Boss. Fox Television has renewed the 30 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: number one new nationalist syndicated daytime talker for two years 31 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: through twenty twenty four. Twenty twenty five, we're going to 32 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: be discussing her career. She co hosted the daytime talk 33 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: show as you remember the view being on Dancing with 34 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: Stars This Nation, and I cast her way back when 35 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: on the Damie Fox Jamie Fox Show as an actress 36 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: when I was the core executive producer. Now she's whole 37 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: co hosting something else. If you don't know about this, 38 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: an n w ACP Image Award winning podcast called Two 39 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: Funny Mamas with comedian and as Kim Whitley. They will 40 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: have an upcoming comedy tour that we'll be talking about 41 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: called two Funny Mamls. Please Walking the Money Main Conversations 42 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: Masterclass the daytime. The award winned the number one Queen 43 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: of Talk Show comedian actress author Sherry Shephard. How are 44 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: you doing? Cherry rest on Hyry? She was saying so 45 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: much lesgo, she gonna say, I'm done. You say everything, Rachelle, 46 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. That's what I was thinking. 47 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: I don't have to do anything. Sarry, you are amazing. 48 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: Thank you for taking the time to call my show. 49 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: You know we we broadcast live every Tuesday on w 50 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: c OKA and Atlanta, Georgia and the syndicates nationally on 51 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: HBCU stations in nationwide as well as my podcast. But 52 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: more importantly, when I get a talent like you who 53 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 1: understands that the journey, you know, journey I mentioned when 54 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: we first met. We're back when on the Jamie Foxx Show. 55 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: But it's been a journey. Talk about let's start now 56 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: presently the excitement that's happening the podcast to talk show. 57 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: How did the talk show come about? Because you were 58 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: guesting series on it, and then also that the talk 59 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: show was given, It was you giving the opportunity to 60 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 1: do it. Can you walk it through that process emotionally 61 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: and physically? Oh yeah, I've always wanted to do have 62 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: a talk show of my own. This started back eighteen 63 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: years ago. I had actually done a pilot for a 64 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: talk show for ABC Disney. I did it on the 65 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: set of Regis and Kelly and and it went, you 66 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: know what, it was okay. Like they came and saw me, 67 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: the Disney people doing stand up at the Last Factory Rishaun, 68 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: and they liked me, and they did this pilot and 69 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: they tried to do a sidekick and it didn't work. 70 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: Um you know with the chemistry testing with all of 71 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: the major stars that you hear about now, and it 72 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: didn't work. So they did it for me by myself 73 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: and it was okay. And the reason why it was 74 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: okay it was because they kept coming to me the 75 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: executive thing, we want to see that thing that you 76 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: do on stage. And I didn't know what that thing 77 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: was that they were talking about. All I knew was 78 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: that I was grateful to God for the opportunity. I 79 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: just wanted to make people laugh. My voice wasn't even 80 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: as deep. It pretty much was like, hey, everybody, how 81 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: you doing. Welcome to my home show, right, And it 82 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: didn't work then eighteen years ago, because I didn't know 83 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: who I was. I didn't know really who my audience was. 84 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: I didn't know, I excuse me, what I would do, 85 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: what I wouldn't do. If you told me to stand 86 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: on my head, I would have done it as long 87 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: as it made people laugh. So fast forward. It didn't go, 88 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: of course it didn't, and so I got the opportunity. 89 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: I went back to acting, still having that dream, and 90 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: I was doing a movie called Who's Your Caddie? And 91 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: they asked me to co host on the View like 92 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: a guest. Well, I got that job, and you know 93 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: that was like really my training ground for t show. 94 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: And in the meantime, I've done a lot of guests, 95 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: you know, where I was sitting on the couch and 96 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: I was a guest. So I learned how to do 97 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: talk shows and what I like. From that end, I 98 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: did the View, got let go, got fired from the View, 99 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: and I went and pitched a talk Let's let's talk 100 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: about that, because you know, I know I've had some 101 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: dark moments in Hollywood, because you know, when it happens 102 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: in public like that, you know, it's not like working 103 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: at IBM. It's not like working at the post office 104 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: at burber Key. You know, you just walk home and 105 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: go and tell your loved ones you don't have a job. 106 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: When it happens in public, that really takes a twofold. 107 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: It's takes the ego hit, it takes a personal hit, 108 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: and then you also wonder, oh, you're gonna get another shot? 109 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: How did you overcome that moment? Well, I knew I 110 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: couldn't be too upset when they released me from the 111 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: View because God had told me and I have to 112 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: go spiritual in my career because that is the number 113 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: one who has made it happen. But God had said 114 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,799 Speaker 1: to me very clearly that last year of the View, 115 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: it's time to go. It's time to move. And when 116 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: I told my people, my team that I was going 117 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: to quit the View, everybody went into an uproar. Oh 118 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: my god, you won't be able to get a talk show. 119 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,679 Speaker 1: It takes a year to develop. You're making amazing money, 120 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 1: and I was, you're making all of this money, You're 121 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: not gonna nobody in Hollywood knows you. No, No, no, 122 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: you can't, you can't, And I said no, God was 123 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: very clear it's time for me to go. It was 124 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: the year that Barbara Walters was retiring. And then once 125 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: I was clear on that, they kept trying to give 126 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: me more money at the View to keep me, and 127 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: I kept I continued saying no. And then Rashaun, once 128 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: it happened that I thought I was going to go 129 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: through a very messy divorce, I got scared and I said, oh, 130 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: this is gonna be expensive and messy. I'm gonna stay 131 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: at the View and take the big old Stalary raise 132 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: they gave me. Well, do you know when God says 133 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: it's time to go, if you don't do it, he's 134 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: gonna push you out of it. Because he said it 135 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: was time to go. And so they released They did 136 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: not renew Jenny McCarthy's contract. They let go of a 137 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: Barbara Walker's co creator, Bill Getty. It was a number 138 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: of people that they were letting go. And I'm I'm 139 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: praying with everybody. I'm like, you know what, Jenny is 140 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: gonna be? Okay, God gonna give you something better. You 141 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: know what Bill Getty is, don't be okay. And then 142 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: they called me in the office. They said, Sarychever, we 143 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: need to see you. And I was like, for what. 144 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: I went in there and they said, um. They said, 145 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna release you from your contract now when you're 146 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: gonna do what? And they said, we're not gonna renew 147 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: your contract. And I said, but you get you just 148 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: were trying to give me a big salary bump. And 149 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: they said, no, things are different now and we're not 150 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: going to renew. And I remember I was sitting in 151 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: my dressing room in front of the mirror, and I said, Lord, 152 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: I'm about to go through this divorce. I got a 153 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: child with special needs, his therapy, his schooling. Did I 154 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: tell you I'm about to get divorced? And this is 155 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: gonna cost me a lot of money? And it was 156 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: so still the voice of God saying I told you 157 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: it was time to go. So if I got to 158 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: push you out, it's time to go. And I said, well, 159 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: then what am I supposed to do? God, because I 160 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: don't know if I told you I'm getting a divorce. 161 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: Sometimes you've been talking to God but he didn't hear you. 162 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: And I just felt God say, do you trust me? 163 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: And I said, not really. I just I got this much, 164 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: this ends of trust and it was like I felt 165 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: like God saying that's all I need and that was it. 166 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: But resigned literally two weeks later. I don't even think 167 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: it was two weeks. Will Packer called me and he said, hey, lady, 168 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: but if I was two in the morning, I got 169 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: a role for you and right along too. Would you 170 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: play this part? I say yes. A week before that, 171 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: Sinderella on Broadway called and said, we want you to 172 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: play the evil stepmother Keiki Palmers playing Cinderella. You were 173 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: the first black evil stepmother on Broadway. I said, I 174 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: can't sing. They said, what don't work? We took away 175 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: all your solo You're just gonna sing with Kiki and 176 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: the other in your step daughters. I said, yes, I 177 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: did a month's run, got to stay in a big penhouse. 178 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: They paid me a lot of money to be on 179 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: Broadway and went through a very extensive divorce. But God 180 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 1: always provided, So that's how yes it was. It was 181 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: a little embarrassing, but I knew behind it right there 182 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: was a reason why they let me go. So sometimes 183 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: I think we look at things like, oh my god, 184 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: what am I gonna do. This is horrible. How am 185 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: I going to bounce back? But if God says it's 186 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: time to go, then there's something else that he has. 187 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: So with that, I went again around to Hollywood pitching 188 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: a talk show and everybody said no. Resigned absolutely. Let 189 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: everybody know. I'm talking to the one and only Sherry Shepherd. 190 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: She's talking about her history, but she now is the 191 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: new queen of daytime talk. If you haven't seen the show, 192 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: it's called Sherry in Image Award winning show that one 193 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: this year, and now she's telling us her journey. Her 194 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: journey is one of I said early, if you have 195 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: a gift, leave with your gift. And that's what she's doing. 196 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: And when people told her, her friends, her family, the 197 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: whole co workers told her to stay on the view, 198 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: she knew it was time to do to leave. That's 199 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: why I say, if you have a plan, you have 200 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: a dream, stick with it. And that's what she telling us. 201 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: Now continue the story. Well, I was pitching the talk show. 202 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: I had the vision in my head and everybody was 203 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: not interested. Everybody said no. They kept saying no, So 204 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: I said, well, what am I supposed to do? I 205 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: kept acting, but I kept honing my skills. I would go. 206 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: I was on talk shows and again be a guest 207 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: right so that I get hold no skills. And I 208 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: think after that I just started doing like game shows. 209 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: I was hosting the new Libay Game. I was hosting 210 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: another game show where I got to hone my skills, 211 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: and just like being able to improv and talk to people, 212 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: I kept doing stand up. All of these things really 213 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: prepped me for being able to do a talk show 214 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: stand up. I said, on stage for forty five minutes, 215 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: you know you you handle stand up absolutely. I saw 216 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: you when you was open for Kim that Kim tour, 217 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: which was selling when I was opening for Kim and 218 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: baby Face. When you stand on stage, you have to 219 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: talk for forty five minutes. And I always tell people 220 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: stand up comics make the best talk show homes because 221 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: we know how to create magic where there is none. 222 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: There's no death space with the stand up comic. We're 223 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: used to improving, we're used to making things funny, and 224 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: everybody is continued to say no. I continue. My acting 225 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: career flourished, and after that what happened was I think 226 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 1: around two thousand, two thousand and nine Wendy Williams was 227 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: in We knew that she was sick, but we didn't 228 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: know she was in rehab. And I was as summing 229 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: a movie with Acon Crockett and DC and the Wendy 230 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: Williams show called Now. I ha been a guest on 231 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: her show. There's even a clip of me on YouTube 232 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: of Wendy saying what do you want to do? And 233 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: I said, Wendy, I'm want my own talk show. Maybe 234 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: we could go. Oh, Sherry that on YouTube? Wow to existence, 235 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: I'm running on the couch and I go, maybe we 236 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: go with Sherry. She laughed. And so they called me 237 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: to be when the people were filling in for Wendy, 238 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: they had panels of comics. Now this in two thousand 239 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: and nine. This in two thousand and nine, two thousand 240 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: and nine, and they wanted you to be a part 241 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: of a panel. And I remember Michael Yo and different 242 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: comics were filling in at one time for Wendy, kind 243 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: of like a view light panel. And so when they 244 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: called me, something inside of me said say no, And 245 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: I said no, I will I will host if you 246 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: let me do it by myself, and give me two 247 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: days Monday and Tuesday, because Monday is your highest rated day, 248 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: because so much stuff happens over the weekend and people 249 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: want to see what you're gonna say. And they said, 250 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: absolutely not, You'll be a part of a panel. And 251 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: I said no, and I walked away, and I remember saying, 252 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: acon I hope I did the right thing, but I 253 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: know I came from doing the view, so I know 254 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: I could do it by myself. It's been my dream. 255 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: They didn't call me for about two or three weeks. 256 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: Heki Palmer hosted it by herself. There are only four 257 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: people that did it. Michael Rapp Report hosted it by himself, 258 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: Jerry O'Connell hosted it by himself, and me, And they 259 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: called me back and they said, we'll let you host 260 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: it for two days by yourself, Monday and Tuesday. And 261 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: I was so nervous, but when I tell you, the 262 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: ratings were amazing. When I hosted it. They called me 263 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: really before I had even left New York, and they said, 264 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: can you host again the entire week. By the time 265 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: I got back to my hotel to change, they had 266 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: canceled it. They canceled me hosting. They showed reruns. But 267 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: what they did do is Debmar Mercury offered me a 268 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: talk show back in two thousand and nine, and it 269 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: didn't happen. When I tell you, Rashaun, I literally was like, God, 270 00:13:55,080 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: what is going on? Two thousand not We negotiated the salary, 271 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: we had everything together. I knew what I would do 272 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: with this talk show that my Mercury had, and it 273 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: just they pulled the contract literally before I was supposed 274 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: to sign it. And I'm going, what in the world, 275 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: ugly cries not running down my nose. My ratings were 276 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: amazing for those two days, no reason, my team just goes. 277 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: They just pulled the contract. They resended the offer. So 278 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: I go again to Hollywood pitching is my demo reel 279 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: was me filling in for Wendy and I took it 280 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: around and one lady even said, a big casting director, 281 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: there's a big talk show in the air now that 282 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: they produced. She looked at me and she said, I said, 283 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: I got the sizzle reel because it kind of shows 284 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: what I want to do from my own time. She 285 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: said I don't need to see it, and I said, 286 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: but I really need you to see if she goes, 287 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: I don't and she did her hand like dismissing dismission. 288 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: I don't. Very dismissingly, she said, I don't need to 289 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: see it, and she proceeded to tell me about a 290 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: new talk show they had picked up, and if they 291 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: had picked up this other talk show with a singer 292 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: from a music show and it was amazing and you know, 293 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: and she was like, maybe I could put you on 294 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: a talk show where it's four three cooks and you 295 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: learn how to America with the And I'm like, I 296 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: don't that is very true. It's Sherry O that thought. 297 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna be right back because I'm telling you you 298 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: want to hear about the too funny Mamma's tour that podcast. 299 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: Want to hear about all her opportunities. More importantly, Sherry, 300 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: you following your dreams. You're live in your dream That's 301 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: what you show money, money making conversations, masterclasses all the time, 302 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: letting people that in your darkest moment, would keep dreaming, 303 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: in your darkest moment, would keep winning because people out 304 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: there will find you because they believe in you, and 305 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: God has blessed you because you willing to put in 306 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: the work. Be right back more money making conversations, masterclass. 307 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: Don't don't go nowhere. Sharry Shepherd be right back. Please 308 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more money 309 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: making conversation. It's masterclass. You are now tuned into the 310 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: moneymaking conversations. Minute of Inspiration with Rashaan McDonald. This week, 311 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: I sat down with Mediamogral Hollywood executive and philanthropists Nick Cannon. 312 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: Although the former Child Store has experienced a long career 313 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: of success with no signs of slowing down, he explains 314 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: why he's so passionate about creating opportunities for others. It's 315 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: all about the community. For me, It's about giving other 316 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: people opportunities. It's about opening doors and sharing the knowledge, 317 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: wealth and wisdom that I've obtained with everyone else. I mean, 318 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: you know, obviously I'm still in school. Hopefully you know, 319 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: I'll be able to you know, Hu Howard University. I 320 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: want to go all the way. I'm getting my masters, 321 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: want to go to my doctorate and eventually be a 322 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: professor and teach the things that I've picked up along 323 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: the way. But it's all about the community, whether it's teaching, 324 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: whether it's entertaining, whether it's investing into us. If you 325 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: want to listen to this four interview with Nick Cannon, 326 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: It's available on money Making Conversations dot com. Welcome back 327 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: to the Money Making Conversations Masterclass hosted by Rashaun McDonald. 328 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Rushan McDonald. I'm an interview. I'm interviewing 329 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: Sherry Sheep, a day new queen of Daytime Talk. It's 330 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: not something that thought that she just thought of last week. 331 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: It's something that's been hit on mine for a long time. 332 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: You know, always to be able to Can a dream 333 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: come true? Yes, if you put the work in Can 334 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: a dream come true? Yes? If you believe in it, yes, 335 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: if you keep telling people this is something you want 336 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: to do. Sherry, there was a daughter's there was people 337 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: who questioned you. At what point did you and yourself 338 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: realize you know something. I'm gonna trust me. I'm gonna 339 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: trust Sherry Shep. You know at what point? I just 340 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: I believed always, even when I got let go from 341 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: the view, I knew I had something to offer. I 342 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: just knew I needed one person to believe in me, 343 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: and no matter that I kept getting no. Yes, it hurts, yes, 344 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: I cried, but I knew that God didn't put this 345 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: dream inside of me and have me and me being 346 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: so good at it that it would fall to the wayside, 347 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: and I knew I had to hold on to that 348 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: dream despite what it looked like, because, like I said, 349 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: when I ran around this the last time in Hollywood 350 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: and everybody was saying no Rashawn, there was one network 351 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: that I went to and the woman said to me 352 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: she was ahead of the network and they didn't have 353 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: any talk shows, and she said, I got chills watching 354 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: you still in for Wendy in two thousand and nine. 355 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 1: She said, I loved the civil real I'm the one 356 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: that makes the decision, and I knew before I walked 357 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: out of the room that I had to deal for 358 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: my own talk show. Do you know six weeks later 359 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: they called my team and they said, Nope, we're gonna 360 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: go with another woman. We think she's amazing, and we're 361 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: not gonna do seriously. And I got what happened to 362 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: the ladies. She got killed. Right when I say that 363 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: was when I set out and I cried again, and 364 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: I said, I said, Lord, this is too painful, this dream. 365 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: I can see it in my mind of what I 366 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: want to do, and it's so painful. The knows that 367 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna focus on my acting and let 368 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: you bring this back to me. Um, you know, because 369 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: I just don't want to. I don't want to think 370 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: about it, which bat you're telling anybody. You didn't just 371 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: sit around. And so because you didn't sit around and 372 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: going oh this is this is the end of the road. 373 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: Because you and I were talking all the time, you know, 374 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: because at the time twenty twelve to twenty fifty sixteen, 375 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: you know, Steve Harve and I was up in Chicago. 376 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: We would invite you onto the show as a gas 377 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: and we talked about the acting opportunities, and you will, 378 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: you were staying focused. You were letting the good in you, 379 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: the success and you to keep moving you forward and 380 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: not waddling around into what else. No, I didn't And 381 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: I remember doing um um, the Steve Harvey Show, and 382 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: I remember you guys will follow me out there, and 383 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: I remember you would be so encouraging to me, and 384 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: you would tell me how good I was. The one 385 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: thing I know I was. I'm a great guest. Yes 386 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 1: you are. Yes, you are the mark of a gree 387 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: I guess you don't have the talk show host don't 388 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: have to do any work. They can literally sit back 389 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: and enjoy you. And that's one of the things that 390 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: I knew as soon as I stepped out on a 391 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: couch and somebody had to interview me, just Jabe Kauai 392 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: to let me go and enjoy the show, and I 393 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 1: just started. I really, my acting took off. I was 394 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: a regular and sitcoms and doing the movies and critically 395 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: acclaimed movies. And what happened was out of the blue, 396 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: when I tell you, out of the blue, I got 397 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: a call. Not only was I co hosting, they asked 398 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: me back to co host for a week the View. 399 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: I hadn't been on the View for three years and 400 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: they called me and they said, becauld you just sit 401 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: in for an entire week? So that was amazing. I 402 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: got to sit in for an entire week and I 403 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: got a phone call from jeb My Mercury and they said, 404 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: could you fill in for a week now. At the time, oh, 405 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: I didn't even say this. I had gone to desinate 406 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: should They wanted me to be a co host in Atlanta, 407 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: and I said, no, I'm not moving to Atlanta. I'm 408 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: thinking if you'll if you'll let me do it in 409 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: La I'll think about it. And I met with the 410 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: the deitionation Folks, which is owned by five by Fox 411 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: absolutely Fox Enter Payments, Steve Brown over their Fox Steve Brown. 412 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: And I remember being in the meeting Rishan and We're talking, talking, talking, 413 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: and I said to them, with my ultimate goal, I 414 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: you know, being a co host is great, but my 415 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: ultimate goal is I want my own talk show. And 416 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: they said to me, They go, well, Nick Cannon has 417 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:44,479 Speaker 1: a show face, and I go, Nick Cannon, Now this 418 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: is the reason why Nick Cannon and we love each 419 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: other out. Nick Cannon, well, I said it was because 420 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: the people who who filled in from Wendy by themselves, 421 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: they all got a show. He Key Palmer went on 422 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: to co host with Michael Strahan. She got that gig, 423 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: and right after filling in Lindy, Michael Rappaport got, I 424 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: think he did a pilot, uh for a talk show. 425 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: It didn't go. Jerry O'Connell did a six week test run, 426 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: remember his talk show. Those three they all had to 427 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: say it was like and so Nick Cannon also he 428 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: still didn't by himself, still with five of us. So 429 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: when they said Nick Cannon had and so I was like, 430 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: everybody who feels it ain't got something. And literally I went, 431 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: They said, yeah, Nick Cannon's his show's coming out, so 432 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: we don't really have the space for another talk show, 433 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: and but we want you to be on Dish. Now 434 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: I accept the destination. Thank goodness, because as soon as 435 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: I accepted it, uh quarantine, it happened. So they had 436 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: already right. But when they said Nick Cannon, and it 437 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: just it was a representative of everything that, like, I 438 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 1: could see my dream. But I'm gonna Lord, everybody else's 439 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: getting it but me. And I went downstairs in the 440 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: parking lot and I started crying again, and my manager 441 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: started crying too, And I looked at him and I go, 442 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: what are you crying for? Our crying crew? You're making 443 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: me cry? And I go with this. I don't like 444 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: I'm doing like Rich white Man. I don't like to 445 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: seeing cry. And I go, you just want me to 446 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: be crying. You're getting commission. You're fine. So after that happened, 447 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: I stayed on this nation, which prepared me again. Then 448 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: I was at home by myself, reading a prompter, and 449 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: also once we got back in the studio, reading a 450 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: prompter by myself. But you would think that I was 451 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: really um interacting with the Atlanta crew, bratt and head 452 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: cracking all of them. So reading that prompter helped me 453 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: tell a story like a bunch of people are in 454 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: the room. So that prepared me. So when the when 455 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: the offer came from the Debt Mar for me to 456 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: fill in, I was on the View guest co hosting, 457 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: and they called Jeb mar Mercury and said could you 458 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: fill in for a week. I ended up filling in 459 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: for a week and then kept asking me to come 460 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: back for another week. This nation was getting mad and 461 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: they were saying they, hey, wait a minute, hold don't 462 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: they said no. I said, Lord, you gotta work it out. 463 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: If this is from you, then you will work it out. 464 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, dish Nation would say go 465 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: ahead and do another couple of weeks. Ellen called me. 466 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: I hadn't been on The Ellen Show in twelve years. 467 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: And then she called and she said, I want you 468 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: to come back for my last season. And then but 469 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: then I was supposed to sit in for a week 470 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: with Jeb Mar Mercury who did the Wendy Show. And 471 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: they said absolutely not because we've had you to sit in. 472 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: And I said, Lord, if this is what I'm supposed 473 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: to do, you'll work out both Rashaan do you know 474 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: they worked it out so I was able to do Ellen. 475 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: I hadn't set in her seat for twelve years, and 476 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: I still was able to go to New York and 477 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: my ratings were so high when I filled in for 478 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: Wendsy and and I said, Lord, I'm just gonna leave 479 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: it to you. I'm not gonna think about it. I'm 480 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: just gonna do what she created me to do. And 481 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: then they came through with the offer for me to 482 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 1: have my own talk show. Congratulation, same offer to day 483 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: come back within two thousand and nine, more money, money. 484 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: You gotta know your words and number one number one. 485 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: I know you do. We text each other all the time. 486 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: You text me. Look at this, I'm number one the 487 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: women and then number one talking today to talk show. 488 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: And but that doesn't stop you. I'm just telling you 489 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: something about her. You know, she has a movie she's 490 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: gonna do this summer. But more importantly, she's doing a 491 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: comedy tour with the incredibly funny actress Kim Whitley, who 492 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: I also have known for many many years. To two. 493 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: Funny Mamma's podcast was started basically on the Tim Join 494 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: the Show correct that's when you guys got together as 495 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: a duo and now you're turning into the podcast. It 496 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: has one back to back in ACP Awards for an 497 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: Image Award for Outstanding Podcasts. So what's this? What's this tour? 498 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: Y'all doing? Stand up? What are y'all doing out there? 499 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: We decided to It took me three years to get 500 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: this girl to do a podcast with me, and she 501 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: finally said yes, and we were doing that during the quarantine. 502 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: We just want to make people laugh and it's been 503 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: so successful and we've won the NAACP Image Awards. I'll say, Ken, 504 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: we got to take this on the road because I 505 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: don't know any duo that can get on stage and 506 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: stand there for an hour and talk to each other. 507 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: And she said yes. So we're doing some test days 508 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: to see how it goes, if we can stand each 509 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: other for three consecutive weekends, and if we do that, 510 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: we will continue this tour. And so where you can 511 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: go to Cherry Show tv dot com to find out 512 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: where we're gonna be. We're gonna be in New Brunswick, 513 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: New Jersey, Ben Salem, Pennsylvania, and Wilmington, Delaware, and so 514 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: Cherry SHOWTV dot com to find out exactly where the 515 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: theaters are, and we're just doing stand up and we 516 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: bowed our stand up comments who we love doing stand 517 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 1: up so to be able to go out there and 518 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: take this experience live to folks, those Shenanigan, I'm so excited. Well, 519 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: I just I gotta ask this because both of you 520 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: do a brilliant improv y'all Do y'all do any of that? 521 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: Do y'all come back on stage together? Or just one 522 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: doesn't said and then the other doesn't said? How does 523 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: that work? As far as stand up? Risaunt? When I said, 524 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: we've been doing the improv and we get on stage 525 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: and we get up, and we did a live stream 526 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: during quarantine, and you know, so people could see it. 527 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: We did almost ninety minutes improv on stage together just talking. Now, 528 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: what we do is we come on stage together for 529 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes, and we really got to be strict 530 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,479 Speaker 1: because Kim and I can talk for two days. Right, 531 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: come on for about fifteen minutes, him, I leave. I 532 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: introduced Kim. She does stand up for about twenty thirty minutes. 533 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: I come back and I do usually about twenty or 534 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: thirty minutes as well. Then we do a Q and 535 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: A together, and we're on stage. Probably we're on stage 536 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: and today's stay. This is a Union theater. Absolutely we were. 537 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: We were just talk together and we take questions from 538 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: the audience and it's just a really great night. We'll 539 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: tell us again, how can we find out about the dates? 540 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: And give us the three dates again that right now? 541 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: Tell everybody this is an initial start of a great 542 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: stand up comedy tours stand up comedy. Both of them 543 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: are doing a live stand up comedy tour. It's called 544 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: Two Funny Mamas starring Jerry Shepherd and Kim Widley. Tell 545 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: us those dates, tell us where we can go and 546 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: look get more information about tickets. May nineteenth, we are 547 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: in New Brunswood, New Jersey. May twentieth, we're ben Salem, Pennsylvania. 548 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: May twenty first, we are in Wilmington, Delaware. You can 549 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: go to Cherry showtv dot com and buy a ticket. 550 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: And this weekend I'm at the City Winery in Chelsea 551 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: Piers in New York. If you're in New York March 552 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: thirty first and May fourth, I'm also at the City 553 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: Winery in New York. What did I say? Or May 554 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: fourth if you're in town. So those are the standard dates. 555 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: But can I just thank you for when I got 556 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: to stalk show course now that I have it, when 557 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: they offered a simpy and they said yes, I was like, reside, 558 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: they gave a simpy, you know, and I'm thankful you 559 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: said to me, who is your audience? Who are you? 560 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: Who are you talking to? And it really made me 561 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: sit down and go who am I? And that is 562 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: that is informed every decision I make because remember I 563 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: said I didn't know what I was doing eighteen years ago. 564 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: Today I know how I can say no, I know 565 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: who I'm talking to, who my audience is. We're number 566 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: two we tired with Doctor Phil for women twenty five 567 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: to fifty four, right behind Kelly and m Ryan and 568 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: number one new talk show. So I know from you 569 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: saying Sherry, who are you? Who are you talking to? 570 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: I'm a single mom, I'm an entrepreneur, i am divorced, 571 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: I was married one. I'm a woman who came up, 572 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: who went, who was down and got back up. That's 573 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: who I'm talking to. I'm a woman in her fifties. 574 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: I'm talking to women also who are trying to redo 575 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: their life and reinvent themselves. That's who I'm talking to. 576 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: So I know when when somebody comes to me with 577 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: old Cockamami, I did twenty one year old girl, poor 578 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: beer over her friend. That's not me, Absolutely show that 579 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: is that you. She's the incredible With Sherry Shepherd, you 580 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: know your friend, and you know I love you to death, 581 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: and I know we text back and forth the good 582 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: times and the bad times that we've had in our career. 583 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,719 Speaker 1: But right now it's the good times and congratulations and 584 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: you know I'm going to help you own that comedy 585 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: tour because guess what the world needs to see Two 586 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: funny mammas starring Kim Whitley and the incredible Sherry Shepherd. 587 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: Thank you for calling my show, Sherry. I love your Ashan, 588 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: appreciate you and we talk soon. Okay, all right? By 589 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: cool Melandy Brown, she's on call. She's on hold right now. 590 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: If you don't know who Melandie Brown is, she's the 591 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: associate vice president of Consumer Media Content and Blade Blaade 592 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: b l a v t Y Incorporated, don't go nowhere. 593 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: She's fantastic. This is a great show that we're enjoying 594 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: ourselves in money making Conversations Masterclass. Be right back with 595 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back 596 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass. You are now tuned 597 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: into the Money Making Conversations Minute of Inspiration with Rashaan 598 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: McDonald's attorney Benjamin Crump. It's a nationally recognized trial lawyer. 599 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: He recently led the George Floyd's family legal team. Attorney 600 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: Benjamin Crump once told me that anyone should sit in 601 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: the courtroom doing a trial, and you will clearly see 602 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: there are two systems of justice. Just because they say 603 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: it's legal, that doesn't mean it's right. Everything Hitler did 604 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: to the Jews in Germany was legal, but that didn't 605 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: make it right. Slavery was legal, but that didn't make 606 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: it right. And they try to tell us where they did. 607 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: The trade by Martin and Brianna Taylor and Eric Gardner 608 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: and so many others was legal. But I've stand on 609 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: my bullet poor every chance I get to remind America, 610 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: no matter what you say as legal, that doesn't make 611 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: it right. If you want to hear this full interview 612 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: with attorney Benjamin Craft, visit Moneymaking Conversation dot com. Welcome 613 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: back to the Money Making Conversations Masterclass hosted by Rishan McDonald. Hi, 614 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Money Making Conversations Masterclass. I enjoyed doing 615 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: this show. I enjoyed doing it because I hopefully bring 616 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: guests and allow them to talk and tell their stories, 617 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: because we all know people magazine story or social media story. 618 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: But that behind the scene conversations what I try to 619 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: create on this show, so you can get a kind 620 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: of like an io Wow, that's how they That's how 621 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: it happened, That's how it was. Make that career change 622 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: happened that way with my next guess is that same way. 623 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: Her name is Melanie Brown. She is the Associate vice 624 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: president of Consumer Media Content at Levity Incorporated and builds 625 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: solutions for black and multicultural audiences and enterprises who want 626 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: to reach down. She explained to every explaining to us 627 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: exactly what all that means, because it's important because multicultural 628 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: or black understanding who your voices and the community out 629 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: there is kind of like dissecting it and telling you 630 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: where you should go and what you cannot do. As 631 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: part of her role, Melodie's innovative editorial franchises and verticals 632 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: where they focus on driving affiliate revenue. It's all about money. 633 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: This includes integrated strategic strategies focused on inspiring and engaging 634 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: audience in a way that constantly drives action. She's gonna 635 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: tell us about all the projects the travel magazine she's involved. 636 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: She's on the show to discuss how she drives that 637 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: revenue in the ever changing world that we live in. 638 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: Please work with the money making Conversation Masterclass, Melodie Brown. 639 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: How you doing, Melodie Hayler sign, It's so great to 640 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: be here. I'm really excited about this conversation. I mean, 641 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: following Cherry, I'm hyped. Well, you know, Sherry, I was said, 642 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: I think Cherry will keep talking, but I got Melodie 643 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: on hole. It's so worried. No, no, you know because 644 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: if I feel fortunate to have not only her on 645 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: the show, but you on the show, because of the 646 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: fact that you drive a different medium in this business 647 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: is and we're always talking about what kind of business 648 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: can what kind of careers can our children have of color? 649 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 1: And then we know in this industry there's general tendency 650 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: to believe that we only do a certain type of 651 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: career choices. And when you when when we discuss what 652 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 1: you're doing. I wanted to do first explain to everybody 653 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: what you do, and then we're gonna talk about how 654 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: did you get there? Yeah? Absolutely, thank you so much 655 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: for Sean. I'm currently, as you mentioned, the associated vice 656 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: president of consumer Media at Blackty. So what does that mean. 657 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: That means basically, I leave all of the content strategy 658 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 1: for our commerce and when you're talking about shoppable content, 659 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: things that you see online on our website, as well 660 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: as content that includes lifestyle trending topical stories for our brands, 661 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,720 Speaker 1: which include travel, New Hours, that's our vacation brand twenty 662 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:52,720 Speaker 1: one ninety, which is like our lifestyle, beauty um wellness brand, 663 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: and then our newest brand, which just launched two months ago, 664 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: Home and Texture, which is our home to core inspiration brand. 665 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: So that's my role there at Blavity. Okay, that's your 666 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: role there at blavity. But we know you one of 667 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: these people. You you you just just as worse. I 668 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: would say worse because it's a compliment when you develop 669 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: multiple strange of income because not only that, but you're 670 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: you're also involved in slime. I feel like, who's the 671 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: leasing the secrets? Well, you know, come on, you know 672 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 1: the title of the show money Making Conversation Masterclass. I 673 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: bring on people who can tell you how you can 674 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: sit up here and say what do I do with 675 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: twenty four hours? You listen to my show and you 676 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: hear people tell you what you do with your twenty 677 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 1: four hours? So tell us about this slime in your life. Yeah, 678 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: so this is a slime that kind of started my life, 679 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: if you will. So years and years ago, I graduated 680 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: from the University of Central Florida, which is based in 681 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: Orlando where I live right and got an internship at 682 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: Nickelodeon Studios, which was based here at the time, and 683 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,919 Speaker 1: they did a reboot for those back in the days 684 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: who remember Double Bear, which was like this kid's game 685 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: show that was messy like slides, gooeyiness, et cetera. And 686 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: part of my responsibilities as a intern starting out besidecraft 687 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: services that basically is like today's door Dash and we eat. 688 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: For those who don't know, I had to make slime 689 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: for the show. Okay, you know you had to make slime. 690 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: You see. I always tell people, like my first job, 691 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: my first job was unloading drugs. I tell people uloading trucks. 692 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: I realized that once they put me on the back 693 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: of a truck head at one thousand int twos or 694 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: fifty pounds each. After that job, right there, I realized, 695 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: that's not my goer, that's not my er. Now you 696 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:45,280 Speaker 1: were doing making slime. How old do you make slime? Listen? 697 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can reveal all the things, 698 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: but I will say it's all edible. And there are 699 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: two different versions at that time that they were using. 700 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: One was kind of a pudding base and one almost 701 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: like the thick apple sauce base and other ingredients to 702 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 1: you know, make sit together and it would go on 703 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: different slides and different cyber foam toys, etc. For the game. 704 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: But that was, yeah, that was starting out. And I 705 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: will say, like when you start out in a career 706 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: in an industry, sometimes you know, like the phone, go 707 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: start from the bottom and I will hear it. Sometimes 708 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: you have to get your foot in the door. And honestly, 709 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: it was such a cool, fun time to be in 710 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 1: that environment fresh out of college. I enjoyed it. But 711 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: one you didn't have to travel across country to get 712 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 1: into the Hollywood you were involved in in the early 713 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: stages of creativity. You see where Okay, this is how 714 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,240 Speaker 1: people create content, this is how people reach a certain audience. 715 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: That was a very strong and powerful learning curve for you, 716 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: because you know, there was reaching a certain audience with 717 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: this show. Absolutely, absolutely, and I think, you know, it's 718 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: so interesting you say that. That was kind of my 719 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: first makings of like media. But then my career as 720 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: far as starting out my full time gig, did kind 721 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: of a parallel pivot. I started out full time in 722 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: TV news. So I started as an associate producer at 723 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: the ABC station here in Orlando, which means I was writing, 724 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,359 Speaker 1: I was editing for various newscasts. Sometimes my shifts would 725 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: be early in the morning talking about the crocodile and 726 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: I have to get in at three am. Then sometimes 727 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: I would have to fill in at night. And then 728 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: you know, worked my ranks up. Transitioned to the NBC 729 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: station in Georgia, where I worked up the ranks to 730 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: executive producer and basically that's the person who's in charge 731 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: of all of the newscasts, creating content and storytelling. And 732 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: after about ten years into that, Rashaun, you know, I 733 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: got to the point where I loved storytelling, but I 734 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: was over breaking news time and destruction content love storytelling, 735 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: but that was no longer for me after doing it 736 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: for ten years, and so then opportunity presented itself for 737 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 1: me to enter this well known hospitality company to create 738 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: content from a publishing perspective, doing their digital magazines, video 739 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 1: content and marketing campaigns. And I did that for self 740 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: years and then that brings me to Blavity several months. 741 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: Let me just Melody now I'm talking to Melodies, associated 742 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: vice President of Continuity Media Content and Blavity. Okay, we 743 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: talked about slam because you know, I gotta bring everybody 744 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: up to speed. Anybody just rolled into this conversation. Slime, 745 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: slime and an ice machine, some story like that. We're 746 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: talking and you know what was your degree in. It 747 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: was in radio TV Communications. That was my degree from 748 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: the University of Central Florida. Okay, so but now you're 749 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: talking about you. When you was talking about marketing, you 750 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: was talking about news. So these were areas where where 751 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: they would you say, they would tie to you a 752 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: degree or you were just taking the opportunity and making 753 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: the best of it. TENA News was definitely tied to 754 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: my degree. You know, during my college years back in 755 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: the day, we would do kind of a you know, 756 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: on campus newscast, and so at the time of shown, 757 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: I was like, I want to be on air. I 758 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: want to be a reporter. I want to be an 759 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,760 Speaker 1: anchor and work through that. And when the Nickelodeon's position 760 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: opportunity came for intern, I was like, oh, well, this 761 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,240 Speaker 1: is another avenue to venture out. But it wasn't until 762 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: I got the position, you know, my first full time 763 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: gig as an associate producer, where I was like, you 764 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 1: know what, I like this writing thing. I like being 765 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: able to put news casts together, to put shows together, 766 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: to lead teams. So it changed for me. You know, 767 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: I will say one of the things for anybody who's 768 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,720 Speaker 1: fresh out of college or who's either doing a trade 769 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: or looking to get into an industry, being open minded, 770 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: because here's the thing, the position or the role you 771 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: think you may want, try things out, and you may 772 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 1: surprise yourself and actually find out you're actually better and 773 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 1: blessed in another area. Right, And I've learned that, you know, 774 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: people always talk about how I do a lot of 775 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: different things. I've done a lot of different things in 776 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,359 Speaker 1: my life, and I will do a lot of things 777 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: in my life. I always tell people that I give 778 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: one hundred percent when the opportunities being presented to me, 779 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,760 Speaker 1: and I will pivot when an opportunity feels very comfortable 780 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: and enjoyable because I'm always intrigued. I'm always ready to 781 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: accept the challenge. And it seems to be a path 782 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,240 Speaker 1: in your life. You know, you're not timidated by change, 783 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: and a lot of people are. Absolutely I think you 784 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 1: have to kind of go with your gut. Same reason 785 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 1: I said, you know after TV News love storytelling, but 786 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, this is not the type of 787 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: stories I want to tell. And then moved to hospitality 788 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: and then several months ago I foun an opportunity at Bravity. 789 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: Ain't that interests me? And even more so the fact 790 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: that the company is all in, Rashan, all in when 791 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: it comes to black and multicultural customers. You know that 792 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: sid out to me because in my twenty year career, 793 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: I've never ever worked for a company where diversity, equity 794 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: inclusion goes beyond like HR policies or social injustice moments. 795 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: That's literally Blavity's brand and it just jumps out at me, 796 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: and you know, I leased at the opportunity. I was 797 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: glad that they had me. So, as you said, you know, 798 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: my career has had different you know, paths and parallels, 799 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: all in communication or storytelling to some degree. But it's 800 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: so broad and I'm just so excited about what's still 801 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,800 Speaker 1: to come with my time here at Bravity. We know, 802 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 1: it's really interesting because Blavity, you know, as a industry medium, 803 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: and that has a voice for us, you know, because 804 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: we realize today how important that voice plays out because 805 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: so many people are trying to shift a narrative of 806 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: what really is black culture or black history. Now, what 807 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 1: is the importance of your role? I know you're involved 808 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: in you know, different brands and different scales at Blavity. 809 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: What is your role when you're talking about storytelling it, 810 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: making it or think and making it accurate? I think 811 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,439 Speaker 1: so my role is like listening to our customers, see 812 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,840 Speaker 1: what's resonating with them, see where they are in the journey. 813 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: I think, for example, our newest brand, Home and Texture. 814 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 1: Sometimes we're trying what people think about millennials. So like 815 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 1: all they are these young kids in their twenties. No, 816 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:56,399 Speaker 1: millennials are straight up mid thirties plus early forties. They're 817 00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: setting up roots, they're becoming entrepreneurs, they're buying homes, they're traveling, 818 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: they're interested about their health and wellness. And so those 819 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: are the pieces of content and the storytelling that I 820 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 1: want to tell for our audience, Like where are they 821 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 1: in the various funnels of journey. Also, black and multicultural folks, 822 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: We're not monolithic, We're not the same. There's some folks. 823 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 1: Even when you talk about home right home ownership, that 824 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: can be a condo, that could be a remodeled home, 825 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 1: that could be a new spec home, that can be 826 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 1: an apartment. Like there's different variables and variations to what 827 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: it means to set up routes in your home. And 828 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: those are the stories who want to tap into. Absolutely 829 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: when we come back, I want to talk about more 830 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: in the travel aspect because I think that's where the 831 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: African American community has grown so much and travel because 832 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: any know, I grew up in the era you know 833 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 1: you're hopping the back of the car with mom music, 834 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: go down to your cousins in the next state, and 835 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 1: that was your vacation or that was your extent of traveling. Well, 836 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 1: we're world travelers now in the African American community of 837 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: community of color. We'll come back. We'll asked Melanie about that, 838 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 1: and we also talk about the home and texture why 839 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: that brand is so special. Be right back with more 840 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: money Making Conversations Masterclass with the Queen. I had the 841 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 1: Queen of talk show. Now I got the Queen of Blavity, 842 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: Melanie the Princess. But we'll be right back with the 843 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:28,359 Speaker 1: Princess O Blavity Melanie Brown. Please don't go anywhere. We'll 844 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 1: be right back with more money Making Conversations Masterclass. Let 845 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 1: me tell you about the host of Money Making Conversations, 846 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 1: Rushan McDonald. He's a social media influencer. Eighty percent of 847 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,280 Speaker 1: his one million plus social media followers are female. Rushawn's 848 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 1: a two time Emmy Award winner, three time in Double 849 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 1: ACP Immage Award winner, sitcom writer, stand up comic, and 850 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: former IBM executive, and he has a degree in mathematics. 851 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: More importantly, Rushan McDonald will interview his business and celebrity 852 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,760 Speaker 1: relationships to him, how are you with tips to succeed 853 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 1: in your career that you can only hear in the 854 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass show. Welcome back to the Money 855 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass hosted by Rashan Sean McDonald. Welcome back 856 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. You know, oh, you know, 857 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,399 Speaker 1: they always try to hype yourself off, trying to hype 858 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: your show off, trying to make it, you know, as 859 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 1: big as as possible. So I got the Queen and 860 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 1: the Princess on my show today. The Queen of Daytime 861 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: talks the Princess of Levity. Now, when I talk about 862 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 1: the Levity, I'm talking about an e commerce brand that 863 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 1: is totally focused on the African American community from the 864 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 1: standpoint of travel as far as Home and Texture. Talk 865 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 1: to us about that brand and what makes that so special, 866 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 1: and then we're going to go back to travel, Okay, sure, sure, 867 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 1: So in talking about Home and Texture, you know, it's 868 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 1: about our community. The brand launched two months ago, and 869 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,759 Speaker 1: we know the home buying and designing industry generates millions 870 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 1: rashan upon millions of dollars, but none of that goes 871 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: really all in for us, right, So when we're talking 872 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 1: about homeowners, home seekers and designers and that demographic is 873 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 1: setting up roots. It's one of the reasons we chose 874 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,840 Speaker 1: to have the Homo Texture launch party event and it 875 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 1: landed at the Garden Room last month. When you talk 876 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 1: about the black home buying journey, the ATAIL is one 877 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: of the city's experiencing significant growth. Plus, not only is 878 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 1: this branch here information that's really unique to our community. 879 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,280 Speaker 1: So whether it's disparities and mortgage lending, how to embrace 880 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 1: your personal file and culture, you know, and bring light 881 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 1: to your space, but also given a platform to entrepreneurs 882 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 1: in this space. So Rashan Will, we're talking about real 883 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 1: estate agents and designers. Matter of fact, today we just 884 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: launched our social first series called Homo Texture House Tours, 885 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 1: which is so amazing. It features four fabulous designers from 886 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 1: the Memphis area showcasing their homes and so for listeners 887 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 1: listening who want to check that out, go to Homo 888 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,800 Speaker 1: Texture dot com. But what I'm excited about this brand 889 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 1: is that it's showing how we are building equity as 890 00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 1: a community. Wow. You know, I tend to believe like 891 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,719 Speaker 1: I've been in the person who has been been in 892 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 1: the home buying industry. I've been out there trying to 893 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: buy the right furniture, trying to get to the right 894 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 1: as contractor trying to But then when you look at 895 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: TV these uh do it yourself shows our vision of 896 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 1: our colors and always showcase what what what what role? 897 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 1: And why is That's why there's such a popularity, there's 898 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 1: such a need for what you We launched just two 899 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: months ago. Yes, we saw that it was definitely an 900 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,479 Speaker 1: empty space. You know, we talk about Blavity, the Queen 901 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,440 Speaker 1: of Blavity. She'd probably you know, disagree with me, but 902 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: I think she is is morted to bond our CEO. 903 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 1: She is so forthinking as well as our executives about 904 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: where can we spread our blravity ache influence right. And 905 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 1: we saw the need um. You know, I mentioned earlier 906 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 1: for those destroying the conversation that when you're talking about millennials, 907 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,479 Speaker 1: they're not babies. These are folks who are making money, 908 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 1: good money right, who are looking to buy homes, who 909 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 1: are looking to even buy second homes, right investment homes. 910 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,320 Speaker 1: And we feel like there needs to be an avenue 911 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 1: in a vehicle to them or vehicle for them, and 912 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,800 Speaker 1: not just how they design their home, but even the 913 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 1: nuances of insurance. You know, one of the stories I tell, 914 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 1: you know, my team members is like when me and 915 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 1: my husband bought our home. You know, it's little things. 916 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 1: We had all of these windows. I'm like, oh, we 917 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 1: need curtains and window treatments, like the defense from large 918 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 1: to insurance and lending to kind of those you know, 919 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,959 Speaker 1: smaller things that you don't speak about, and we're trying 920 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 1: to fill that space because there's obviously a need for 921 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 1: it with this demographic. Well, you know, it's really interesting 922 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 1: because you know, you learned so much about home buying 923 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,880 Speaker 1: and you know, like all African Americans, I started in 924 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 1: my little apartment. I remember our very first apartment. It 925 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,359 Speaker 1: was kind of like a studio, had their little wall. 926 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: It wasn't really one bid room because if you looked around, 927 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 1: the wall didn't have a door. But I was happy 928 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,279 Speaker 1: in my little seven hundred graph feed them. I was 929 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 1: I was rocking and rolling in there was doors, it 930 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,839 Speaker 1: was mine. It was mine, you know, technically in rent 931 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 1: it was mine. And then what did you realize is 932 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 1: that we are renting all the time. And really, when 933 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: you do the math and you take care of your credit, 934 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 1: then you can become take that rent and turn it 935 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 1: into a mortgage and then you have equity. And that's 936 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 1: the part of the conversation that I really love about 937 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,280 Speaker 1: when you talk about home and texture, because it educates 938 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 1: a process to you that you may not be thinking about. 939 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 1: And it's also when you talk about millennials. I think 940 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:32,400 Speaker 1: the media has has time time trapped millennials to some 941 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,839 Speaker 1: twenty five that's twenty seven year old person who who 942 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,880 Speaker 1: wants to skip the line and wants to wants to what, 943 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 1: don't want to work hard. That's what the millennials have 944 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 1: been trapped into. That world. Like you said, excuse me, 945 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 1: that's not us. That's not us. With homebuyers, you know, 946 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 1: we buy stock. We were about our retirement and we 947 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 1: make a contribution to society. And that's that's the stereotype 948 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 1: that you're denouncing right now, and you're doing a very 949 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 1: good job of it. But another stereotype that you're denouncing, 950 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 1: it's the whole travel concept because people like me. I'm 951 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 1: older than you, so I know the traditional travel that 952 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 1: we used to do. And in the Europe travel wasn't 953 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 1: part of my mantra. Going out of town, the Cancoon 954 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: wasn't part of the Jamaica wasn't part of it. But 955 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 1: now it's part of the regular routine. What excites you 956 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:25,280 Speaker 1: about that growing or very explosive component of your brand. 957 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 1: You know, I think everything I mean in full transparency 958 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,920 Speaker 1: was Shawn like our vacations where at the time I 959 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 1: lived in New York was taking a road trip down 960 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 1: South South Carolina to visit family, which you know I 961 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 1: loved at the time. But now when you look at travel, yes, 962 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 1: people want these international experiences, especially now post COVID people 963 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,400 Speaker 1: are trying to fly and get away. But also what 964 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,520 Speaker 1: we're finding out with our blivity audience, particularly for travel 965 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 1: new are for that brand, is that they also want 966 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,839 Speaker 1: unique experiences where they don't feel like a tourist. Right, 967 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,840 Speaker 1: So when somebody's traveling, whether it's going to DC, they 968 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,839 Speaker 1: don't want to go to eight chain restaurants. They want 969 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 1: to have that localized experience where they feel like they're 970 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,920 Speaker 1: really being part of the community there. Yes, they like luxury, 971 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 1: they like the finer things. And even when those who 972 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,399 Speaker 1: want to road trip, like I said, black and multicultural 973 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,759 Speaker 1: are demographic's not monolithic. So one of the franchises that 974 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,399 Speaker 1: we're looking at is hidden Jams. So these are those 975 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 1: unique destinations, whether it's going to New Mexico going up 976 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,720 Speaker 1: to Montana, that are very unique and also where black 977 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 1: and multiculturals feel they can be their authentic self. You know, 978 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 1: The interesting thing about when I hear you talk about travel, 979 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:44,920 Speaker 1: and this is a little note about me. I used 980 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 1: to be I should do stand up and lets you 981 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 1: just stand up on cruise ships. I've done performing the 982 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,279 Speaker 1: problem eight different cruise ships, eighty different eighty different cruise ships. 983 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 1: And it was always funny because from from like September 984 00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 1: to April, the audience I had performing in front was white. 985 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 1: When it got made to September, the cruise ship was 986 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,319 Speaker 1: predominantly black. I don't care if it was I don't 987 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 1: care where Cruise Live was Norwegian, it was Raw Caribbean 988 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,560 Speaker 1: that those are the two out dominantly performed on. But 989 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,920 Speaker 1: it was always let me know that the black culture 990 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 1: was very seasonal, very summer oriented when we did our 991 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,879 Speaker 1: vacation and with Blavity, you're starting to open up those 992 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 1: change as we wrapped this interview, and I want to 993 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 1: tell you thank you for coming on the show. How 994 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 1: can we get in touch with you? How can we 995 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,200 Speaker 1: learn more about and give us some websites of Blavity 996 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 1: that we can that we can go and start adding 997 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:38,440 Speaker 1: to that amazing website traffic did y'all have every month? Yes? Absolutely, 998 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 1: So for let's start with Home and Text our news brand. 999 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,279 Speaker 1: You can follow us at Home and Texture also our 1000 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 1: website hom and Texture dot com. Same handles for Travel 1001 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 1: NEWIR Vacation brand at Travel Newir and at twenty one ninety. 1002 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 1: For me, just pook me up, hit me up on LinkedIn, 1003 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 1: Melody Boxtic Brown, you can find me there. And you know, 1004 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 1: I'm just excited about what to calm with Blavity and 1005 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:05,240 Speaker 1: it's house of brands because again Blavity Inc. Has dozens 1006 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,359 Speaker 1: of brands in the lifestyle space from travel to home, 1007 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,120 Speaker 1: to court, to beauty to newse the information to politics 1008 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,400 Speaker 1: to entertainment, where we're serving up the content that we 1009 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 1: know our audience craves and needs. Well, you know, if 1010 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 1: someone's coming. So I'm going to reach out back to you, 1011 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,760 Speaker 1: miss Melody Bostick Brown, and we're gonna talk about travel 1012 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:26,800 Speaker 1: and we're gonna Call'm gonna call you the Princess and 1013 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 1: get you the right title. I'm bringing the Princess back 1014 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,400 Speaker 1: on the show from Blavity and we're gonna have a 1015 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:32,960 Speaker 1: lot more fun. 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