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Speaker 3: So can you just tell how excited to marry us?

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Speaker 3: Just for this game?

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Speaker 1: I wish I'll go, but no, get in your car,

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Speaker 1: We don't have a lot to argue about here.

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Speaker 6: And it's not and I'm not necessarily arguing with you

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Speaker 3: You know, sometimes we see the kickers and they'll be

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here

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Speaker 1: at Jillette Stadium, and kind of a weird week because

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Speaker 1: we didn't play over the weekend, but we played on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Big win against the Pittsburgh Steelers. People thought we were

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Speaker 1: gonna get trounced ha mits Trubisky tape. Yeah, yeah, we'll

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Speaker 1: show them, show them who's still the best coach in

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Speaker 3: Right, But of course both of those guys could be

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Speaker 1: But it was a good win. Nothing you know, to

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Speaker 1: Then we had the Army Navy game here at chill

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Speaker 7: Wow, an angry Chiefs team that was. I mean, I

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Speaker 7: It's ridiculous. Is the worst I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: If that team in their locker room doesn't have a

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Speaker 7: Visual cues yeah, well, I mean I'll let Paul jump in.

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Speaker 7: But I mean Tony was just so far off. And

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Speaker 7: This is like playoffs are on the line seating. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Get in the same game. It was earlier in the game, obviously,

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Speaker 1: They were more embarrassed than anything else, right, Yeah, and.

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Speaker 7: They wanted that play to count. They all wanted, you know,

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Speaker 5: I think a lot of that frustration comes from his

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Speaker 5: I think more of that frustration was on them than

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and another one of my dumb receivers now lost

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Speaker 3: You know, there's so much of their offense that is

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Speaker 4: And it's weird to.

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Speaker 1: The game and win the end of it. Sometimes the

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Speaker 1: But think about it. I mean, we all watched that game.

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming the announcer first team to twenty wins the

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Speaker 6: Wait a minute, what he said that with ten minutes

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Speaker 1: No he said that he had said it very.

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Speaker 3: I didn't hear him say it earlier. I watched the

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Speaker 1: No, but he said I didn't hear it either, But

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Speaker 1: he is, we said earlier twenty first team to twenty

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Speaker 3: You know, he said, so he knew that there was

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Speaker 1: No, he knew it was going to be a low

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Speaker 6: Well, I know he said it. He said that in

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Speaker 1: But he claims he said it earlier.

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Speaker 6: I think he still should have been wrong because it

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Speaker 1: Anyway, but that was That's weird, you know, those two teams.

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Speaker 3: Can we normalize the laterals? Though? The Chargers ran one

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Speaker 1: Still ill advised, right, because you're in field goal position

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I feel like that's an underutilized play

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Speaker 7: That Never I heard the design play though.

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Speaker 1: The only reason was because he was dogging it. Oh

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Speaker 6: I heard Tony was hitting defenders on the way down.

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Speaker 6: I did never saw that.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure somebody asked them. I thought it was designed

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Speaker 6: It was fascinating, I will say that. And it was

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Speaker 6: another like I just think another a great game with

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Speaker 6: people because of what you just mentioned, Fred, it's twenty

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Speaker 6: to seventeen. It was a great game.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Kansas City's defense has played at a level

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Speaker 6: much higher than they've played at in the last several years.

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Speaker 6: And I agree with what Evan said. This is all

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Speaker 6: self inflicted by the Chiefs themselves. This is all their

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Speaker 6: ownership and their general manager. You chose to do this.

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Speaker 6: You chose to say, just like we used to critique

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Speaker 6: the Patriots, at times, you're putting too much on break.

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Speaker 6: You're taking too much for granted that the quarterback will

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Speaker 6: always fix it. And you can't have thirty three drops

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Speaker 6: and just expect to be you know, thirteen and two, right,

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Speaker 6: you're eight and five for you know whatever, the you

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Speaker 6: I'm not good, but.

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Speaker 3: Their margin of error is much thinner this year than

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Speaker 3: it has been in the past. Yeah, where they don't

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Speaker 3: have you're talking about it on our little preview. It's

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Speaker 3: Travis kelcey and it's Mahomes magic. And other than that,

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Speaker 3: they're offense really doesn't have very I'm watching the.

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Speaker 6: Game last night with Tennessee and Miami. Another terrific game

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Speaker 6: and improbable comeback. DeAndre Hopkins is uncoverable. Kansas City, to me,

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Speaker 6: is a super Bowl caliber team that easily could have

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Speaker 3: Yep, you're telling me he can still play, right, So

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Speaker 3: this is all.

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Speaker 6: Your own fault. This is not because Mahomes is having

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Speaker 6: a bad year. I think he's playing at a level

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Speaker 6: higher than I've ever seen him play. I agree, and

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Speaker 6: you know, considering what he's had to do. I think

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Speaker 6: it's just like some of those Brady I think Evan's

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Speaker 7: That, even like taking the fly oh six, the former

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Speaker 6: Got talent, got anything, but when you when you have

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Speaker 1: Was bad officiating. The worst call of the weekend was

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Speaker 6: I'm sure you didn't.

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Speaker 3: I watched the end of the game, and I mean

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Speaker 6: Didn't over They had one particular shot that showed it

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Speaker 7: Seen anything like it with the Army sideline because initially

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Speaker 1: They were, and then it was like what it was clear,

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Speaker 6: And I'm sorry what they're talking about. So it's ten

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Speaker 6: Army punts and down inside their tent or around their ten.

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Speaker 6: it in post. We'll catch it in replay. They show

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Speaker 6: the replay as clear as day. It hits the guy

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, even if it's like you're looking.

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Speaker 7: That's why I always sat Edelman and in Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I'm sorry. I think there's something going on

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Speaker 6: if Army recovers this fumble, it's gonna be seventeen nothing.

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Speaker 6: That's game, you know what. We can make an argument

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Speaker 1: Something to keep people watching until they sing at the.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, especially because when it's seventeen to nothing, we're just

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Speaker 1: Just keep this close.

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Speaker 6: An Army's quarterback would have really been Army's quarterback was

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Speaker 7: You don't want to steal your joke, but you're thinking

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Speaker 7: Because like with Navy, like I mean, I don't understand

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Speaker 7: throwing it. They're making them downfield plays, they're goup up

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Speaker 6: It was like, well then it turned into an unbelievable game.

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Speaker 6: But I think that that to your point, Mike, Army

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Speaker 6: Now it's game on.

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Speaker 7: There were some great pass defenses though by Navy. I

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Speaker 7: I mean it looked like, oh man, they got a touchdown.

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Speaker 6: He number eighty seven for Army couldn't play wide and

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Speaker 6: receieve rit Bishop Fenwick High School. That's how many passes

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Speaker 6: he dropped or plays that he didn't make that he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I turned it on in the in the fourth

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Speaker 10: That was it.

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Speaker 6: They didn't get anymore. Navy had none in the first.

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Speaker 3: Half, and I just I was like, well, I hate

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And that's like because it was my first time

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Speaker 7: and it was it was really cool. I mean, it

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Speaker 6: And I've never seen the stadium like that. And I've

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Speaker 7: Into the Cadets and Army had. They had like this

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Speaker 7: Well looked it looked like. I mean there were like

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Speaker 6: I just thought we provided a great stage for it

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Speaker 1: Oh, they're going to try to get it again.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I just thought, you know, not to be cheesy,

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean even like looking at the tunnel and stuff

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Speaker 5: It was just really cool to see the stadium like

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Speaker 7: It was kind of overwhelming, like there was just so

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's just so many.

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Speaker 6: The name plates for the Army players that were on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was cool, good stuff. That was awesome.

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Speaker 7: So there's a lot to keep tracking.

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Speaker 3: Face.

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Speaker 6: Evan watched literally thirty seconds, so I'm even worse than Evan.

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Speaker 6: I watched the whole game, and on the strip sack

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Speaker 3: I don't know what four minutes left.

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Speaker 7: Something like that.

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Speaker 6: There's late, yeah, I thought so. Beth and I had

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Speaker 6: they just let Navy go right down the field and score.

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Speaker 6: So now it's on the in the TV the place

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Speaker 6: rest of it. But I watched the whole game, but

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Speaker 6: I missed that like pulsating ending, you know.

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Speaker 7: You know it's it was.

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Speaker 6: I just can't believe Navy couldn't move the ball all day.

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Speaker 6: And then they moved it at will be called.

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Speaker 3: The forward pass, and they figured out that that is

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Speaker 6: Had not they were trying to pass before that and

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Speaker 6: game would have been, no doubt.

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Speaker 7: The weird thing to me was just that that the

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Speaker 7: a little bit, and then he was he was definitely

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Speaker 10: All right?

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Speaker 1: What else? You know? The Patriots game going back?

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Speaker 10: Hey?

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Speaker 7: Right, Well, how about just a quick shout out to

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Speaker 7: gave the Patriots just like.

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Speaker 4: The backup quarterback in general.

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Speaker 7: Something like that this weekend. The Giants one Tommy.

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Speaker 6: Johnson in playoff cont.

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Speaker 3: Five and eight, the Titans, Giants, Bears, and Jets and.

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Speaker 6: That and that crappy conference the Giants women playoff, so.

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Speaker 3: That those were all four win teams that became five

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Speaker 3: lead on everybody besides the Commanders who are four and nine.

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Speaker 7: And we got we got the tie breaker. Of course,

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Speaker 3: So I have to look this up again because I

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Speaker 6: I don't think when you're going down schedule.

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Speaker 3: Strength to schedule. So the fact that the Commanders beat

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Speaker 1: C over in the Giants, because whoever it is is

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Speaker 3: By Kfka, it's all, Yes, that's a guy I can't

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Speaker 3: that's a guy I was interested in for a head coach.

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Speaker 3: He was one of my Ben Johnson types. I told

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Speaker 3: get the cutlets to play like that and you're.

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Speaker 1: On the rain.

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Speaker 3: Did you watch the game last night?

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Speaker 6: In all, seriously, a little bit of it.

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Speaker 3: He played pretty well last he did it made it

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Speaker 3: made a really good throw and the touchdown throw on

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Speaker 3: the move was it was a dime. And then the

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Speaker 3: throw to Wanda Robinson on the game winning the game

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Speaker 3: winning drive.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just cannot believe that his agent actually looks like that.

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Speaker 1: Like, it's just it was its perform it was it

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Speaker 7: Was lean into it. He's smart, he knows marketing.

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Speaker 4: I was blown. I was like, there's no way that's

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Speaker 4: what agent.

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Speaker 1: Did you see the thing that they giants social media

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Speaker 1: that was really well though, Yeah, it was really well.

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Speaker 6: I just like, how you know you could just openly

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Speaker 3: We're just why is Yeah, he is a town.

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Speaker 6: It looks like a guy who could get your stuff.

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Speaker 6: That that's what they're That's what they're tweeting out. Oh

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Speaker 6: he knows where the gobba ghul is.

445
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Speaker 1: Like, I think you should file al.

446
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Speaker 6: If I was really offended.

447
00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:31,160
Speaker 1: Maybe so, but let's talk about our quarter. Yeah, let's

448
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,480
Speaker 1: do it. Bailey's appy, what do we think?

449
00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,760
Speaker 7: Nice first quarter and a third?

450
00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,560
Speaker 3: Twenty three minutes, twenty three minutes.

451
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Speaker 5: I would say, considering what he had available, I was

452
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,480
Speaker 5: pretty shocked with the outcome just because obviously no DeVante Parker,

453
00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,040
Speaker 5: kishan booty to Mario Douglas, like just Ramandra Stevenson, just

454
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Speaker 5: not having those I wasn't I don't know. I guess

455
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Speaker 5: I wasn't going in there expecting much. I was really

456
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Speaker 5: expecting like a ten six game. Definitely wasn't expecting three

457
00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:57,960
Speaker 5: touchdowns like that.

458
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Speaker 1: The way it felt to me is the Patriots took

459
00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,160
Speaker 1: advantage of the Steelers kind of sleepwalking through the first half,

460
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Speaker 1: and I think that they made adjustments second half, and

461
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Speaker 1: I think the Patriots knew they were making and catching

462
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,480
Speaker 1: on to what was going on, and I think they

463
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,360
Speaker 1: became conservative because they didn't want to take any chances,

464
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 1: you know, in the second half. That was just my

465
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,359
Speaker 1: like overall impression of the game.

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Speaker 7: I was just shocked at how bad Trubisky was, Like,

467
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Speaker 7: I mean, I know he's bad, but I didn't think

468
00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 7: he was that bad. I mean, he just he couldn't

469
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 7: do anything yet that in that game. But yeah, it's

470
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Speaker 7: like a glimpse from ZAPPI I think is what you

471
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Speaker 7: take from it, and you know it's it's nothing.

472
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Speaker 1: Really.

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Speaker 7: Two weeks ago against the Chargers, you put together I

474
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Speaker 7: mean about a half. Will Gi him a half of football?

475
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Speaker 7: You know, can he Bill? Can he can?

476
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Speaker 10: He?

477
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Speaker 7: Can he do something against this Chiefs.

478
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Speaker 1: And I think when he was, you know, throwing it

479
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 1: around in the first half, he you know, and people say,

480
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Speaker 1: I'm not the first person to say this, but he

481
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Speaker 1: did it with confidence, like he was stepping into the

482
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Speaker 1: ball and throwing with purpose and you know, there was

483
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Speaker 1: no hesitation. And I'd rather have a guy fail doing

484
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 1: that than you know, yeah, you know, play playing scared

485
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 1: to playing conservatives.

486
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Speaker 5: I agree, Like if you're if you're worried about the

487
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,640
Speaker 5: pass rush before the balls even snapped, like, I don't

488
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Speaker 5: want you out there, and so I'd rather have Bailey

489
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 5: Zappy out there confident. I mean he might not, you know,

490
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 5: look that much better than Mac in terms of like production,

491
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 5: but as long as he's doing it confidently and not.

492
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Speaker 3: Freaking out for everything.

493
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Speaker 7: Yeah, watching Max so much, it was just seeing the

494
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Speaker 7: ball come out on time, step into throws, you know,

495
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Speaker 7: knowing where he's going with it, and just and firing it.

496
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Speaker 7: I just those are the things that gotten away from

497
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Speaker 7: Mac for whatever reason, and that you know, to me,

498
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Speaker 7: it wasn't consistent, but there were enough of a sample

499
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Speaker 7: size there where it said geez, he looks like there's

500
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Speaker 7: a little pocket there. He's got a feel for it.

501
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Speaker 7: He's stepping into these things.

502
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Speaker 1: It was the ball early to Juju. It wasn't a

503
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Speaker 1: great throw. It was underthrown. But I think Mac would

504
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 1: have not thrown that. I think he would have like,

505
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Speaker 1: I can't throw that.

506
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Now there's no dropping his eyes. He's keeping his

507
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 7: eyes down. He I mean, those elements are promising. There

508
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 7: wasn't productive in the second half, So I mean, you

509
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 7: don't you can't you know, walk around saying, oh, do

510
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Speaker 7: we have our starter for twenty twenty four here? Like,

511
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 7: I mean, I think people are going a little bit

512
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 7: overboard with some of the reaction. And I mean I

513
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 7: get it. You want, you know, you want to feel

514
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 7: good about something right now, and so it's like you

515
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 7: get this little bone and all of a sudden you're like,

516
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 7: oh my gosh, you know, you're you're you're got a

517
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:14,640
Speaker 7: little bit excited what's going.

518
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 5: But also what's it going to take to finally see

519
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 5: Malik Cunningham, you know, second game in a row that

520
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 5: he's elevated to the roster and then we don't see him.

521
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Speaker 7: I don't know.

522
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Speaker 3: I don't think Malie Cunningham is good. I think that

523
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Speaker 3: they They've made that very clear. The first twenty three

524
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Speaker 3: minutes for Zappy were the best quarterback play they've had

525
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Speaker 3: all year, Like decisive, confident, making throws down the field,

526
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Speaker 3: making throws against the blitz which I thought was a

527
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Speaker 3: big part of The Steelers came into this game and

528
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Speaker 3: they thought that Patriots have no receivers. Even the receivers

529
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Speaker 3: they have it are not available. So we're gonna blit Zappy.

530
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Speaker 3: We're gonna eat them up. We're gonna make the receivers

531
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Speaker 3: beat them, beat us down the field. And they did,

532
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Speaker 3: you know, And I think that kind of took the

533
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Speaker 3: Steelers a little bit by surprise. And in the second

534
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Speaker 3: half they stopped blitzing, and they put some more guys

535
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Speaker 3: in coverage and they were able to make it a

536
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 3: little bit harder. But I thought that in general, the

537
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 3: play calling changed for the Patriots. The Patriots parked the

538
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 3: bus in the second half. They held on for dear life,

539
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 3: and I was a little disappointed by that. Watching it back,

540
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Speaker 3: I was like, all right, so for the first twenty

541
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Speaker 3: three minutes, you have a nearly seventy percent pass rate.

542
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Speaker 3: Dappy's throwing the ball all over the field.

543
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Speaker 6: Oh who, wha, wha wha wha, breaking news, breaking news?

544
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Speaker 6: Should we play? We don't have any breaking news.

545
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 7: Era, prepare yourself. The Baltimore Ravens have signed from the

546
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Speaker 7: Patriots practice squad Malik Cunning.

547
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Speaker 1: Oh wow, makes sense for them.

548
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Speaker 5: Also, just funny that that as soon as I said that, oh.

549
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Speaker 3: Man, wow, crazy, it a lot of comforting.

550
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Speaker 4: I think. I think that makes a lot of sense.

551
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Speaker 5: I mean in terms of if you need a backup quarterback,

552
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Speaker 5: he's someone who you can put in and not necessarily

553
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Speaker 5: have to change the.

554
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Speaker 4: Entire offense dramatically. But it's sad to.

555
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Speaker 7: Seem did they have some kind of injury or something?

556
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Speaker 6: He is this guy plays defensive tackle and wrong safety.

557
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 6: I didn't realize this on NFL network is a safety?

558
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 6: Josh mattelis Minnesota. My guess is that he doesn't really

559
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Speaker 6: play defensive.

560
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Speaker 3: Tackle right he's lining up over the center in their

561
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Speaker 3: pass rushing front.

562
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Speaker 6: But whatever, never mind, So that's it. That is interesting.

563
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Speaker 1: So now mac Jones is back to back up.

564
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Speaker 3: Maybe how do you know he wasn't the bat?

565
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Speaker 1: I think curiosity, Well, he wasn't on Thursday night.

566
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Speaker 6: How do you know that.

567
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Speaker 1: They because the two of them came out. It was

568
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Speaker 1: Bailey and they came out of the tunnel.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and Mac Jones was talking to Bill O'Brien while

570
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Speaker 6: that was going on.

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Speaker 3: I'm just glad that we can.

572
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Speaker 6: We had the highlights, we had the pictures.

573
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Speaker 3: Malik Cunningham ridiculousness. Like clearly if this guy was in

574
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Speaker 3: behind closed doors just making plays all over the field

575
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Speaker 3: when you're three and ten, you would put him in

576
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Speaker 3: the game. And every week it's, oh, you gotta play

577
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 3: the leak. They gotta play the leak. Well he's a

578
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Speaker 3: raven now, oh wow, Anger the vitrio.

579
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree with Fred though. It makes sense for

580
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 6: the Ravens. You have it, that's the offense that you

581
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Speaker 6: run in something.

582
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Speaker 3: He's literally dollar store Lamark Jackson. I mean they both

583
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 3: played Atville and like everything.

584
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Speaker 1: Speaking of Anger, a lot of people were on the

585
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Speaker 1: Steelers fans for the incessant booing in the first half

586
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Speaker 1: that I think who was on them? Just like all

587
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Speaker 1: radio people and I was listening to the broadcast in

588
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Speaker 1: my ear.

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Speaker 6: Why would you not be booing?

590
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Speaker 5: So first of all, so it's okay for the Patriots

591
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 5: fans to boom Mac Jones all day long, but it's

592
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Speaker 5: not okay for them to do that.

593
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Speaker 1: I think they were pissed that they were losing to

594
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Speaker 1: the Patriots.

595
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Speaker 3: That's what I think.

596
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Speaker 1: They were mad.

597
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Speaker 3: It's one thing to lose, it's another thing to, as

598
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Speaker 3: you said, to not show up for the game.

599
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were, they were, They were pissed off.

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Speaker 6: They had a guy played in that game, and I'm

601
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 6: not lying. It's the worst performance I've seen from an

602
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 6: NFL player all year. That Michael Walker kid, who on

603
00:25:55,080 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 6: the same played to the flat six times, was allowing

604
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 6: himself to get caught up in the wash and not

605
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 6: be able to tackle Ezekiel Elliot because he was nowhere

606
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 6: near him. Like they were not in that game. But

607
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Speaker 6: I wouldn't blamed them for who was arguing that they

608
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 6: shouldn't be booing an NFL game? What is this a

609
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 6: high school game?

610
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: I saw on Twitter during the broadcasters saying, wow, listen

611
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: to these fans, they're tough.

612
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Speaker 6: Oh okay, So they weren't complaining that they were booing.

613
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Speaker 6: They would just come in and on the booing.

614
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Speaker 7: Malik's already got a statement to ESPN. I mean, I

615
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 7: want to thank.

616
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Speaker 6: Put it all through Tamara and coach. You should be

617
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Speaker 6: issuing that statement on his behalf.

618
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Speaker 7: He just thanks everybody, and he's excited to be a

619
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Speaker 7: Baltimore Ravens.

620
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Speaker 6: So I'm excited to be the third string quarterback of

621
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Speaker 6: the Ravens instead of the Patriots.

622
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Speaker 7: Hey, he's on the active roster. A little bump and pay,

623
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Speaker 7: I'm sure, and good for a leak.

624
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Speaker 1: So pretty much he has to be on their active

625
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Speaker 1: roster for the rest of the season.

626
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I believe three weeks.

627
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was only four weeks left.

628
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Speaker 7: Yeah, so maybe he uh.

629
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

630
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Speaker 7: How do you guys feel after her? Kansas City lost,

631
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 7: Miami lost to You know what, how are you feeling

632
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 7: about the AFC right now? You feel like chance?

633
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 6: I think I have a very strange, probably way of

634
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 6: looking at I think the AFC is so much better

635
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 6: than the NFC, even though the three best teams quote

636
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 6: unquote record wise are in the NFC. I think the

637
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 6: NFC is so bad. San Francisco, No, but I mean

638
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 6: after that, teams like San Francisco, in Dallas and Philadelphia

639
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 6: are obviously very good teams. I think San Francisco is

640
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 6: the best team in football. I don't think the same

641
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 6: of Dallas and Philadelphia. San Francisco, to me, is the

642
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 6: best team in football. Like you're talking about the eleventh

643
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 6: team in the AFC. Buffalo dominated Philadelphia, right, you know,

644
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 6: Miami had every opportunity to win a game in Philadelphia

645
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 6: if not for an eleven nothing differential in penalties like

646
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 6: these are like Buffalo is seven and six in the AFC.

647
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 6: It's a war. The AFC is an absolute war zone.

648
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 6: I think you guys are absolutely right. I think it's

649
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 6: wide open. I think you could say that they're not

650
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 6: that good because no one's emerged, and that that could

651
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 6: be right. I don't know. I think it's they're all

652
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 6: so good they just kick the crap out of each other.

653
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 5: I also think that's pretty shocking to have it be

654
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 5: a war zone when so many AFC quarterbacks are out.

655
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Speaker 6: And that's also part of the reason why I feel

656
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 6: the way I feel like Cincinnati's roster is so good.

657
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 6: They're just throwing screen passes for this kid and he

658
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 6: you know, like this. I don't know if you guys

659
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 6: watched any this week. No, he's not throwing dart he's

660
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 6: not throwing darts and stry downfield.

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00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 3: IU, I'm done.

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Speaker 6: He had over one hundred and thirty yards on three

663
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Speaker 6: screen passes the other day, Jake Ronnie, Now I watched

664
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Speaker 6: the Jacksonville game. That's not the same game. Point they

665
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 6: had in the Jacksonville game. He was throwing normal passes

666
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,479
Speaker 6: in that game. But the other day it was just

667
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 6: like they were killing the Colts with you know, over

668
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 6: aggressiveness and getting you know, they also had a blatant

669
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 6: block in the back on a fifty five yard screen

670
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 6: pass touchdown that they let go. That's where I would

671
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 6: be really upset with the officiating like for these teams,

672
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 6: Like obviously we see a guy lined up offside, but

673
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 6: just the lack of consistency on when they are throwing

674
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 6: flags in general.

675
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: It goes.

676
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 6: Two blocks in the back on Baltimore's punt return for

677
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 6: a touchdown in overtime, and they weren't hard to see.

678
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 6: Like you're just watching the film, and I mean the

679
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 6: replay of not the film, the replay of the game.

680
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 6: I don't do that.

681
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: Did you watch Cowboys and Eagles? I mean how many how.

682
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 3: Many flags did they throw on Dallas in that game?

683
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 3: And just pick them up.

684
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: Even the announcer had to say, well, you know, the

685
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: rest are clearly setting the tone here with all these penalties, right.

686
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 6: And I have a theory on that too. Those two

687
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 6: major games that Philadelphia got every single call when they

688
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 6: beat Miami and Buffalo, I think there was a little

689
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 6: payback for the Eagle. I'm telling you there's something going

690
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 6: on with officiating this year that's not just normal bad officials.

691
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: It's not good. Whatever it is, it's not good.

692
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, do you think with Patrick Mahomes losing

693
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 7: his mind is that gonna? I mean, I know it

694
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 7: wasn't a ticky.

695
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 6: Ta oh hit like and you know the other thing

696
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 6: that it was a ticky tack call, but you have

697
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 6: to call it.

698
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: Why is it ticky tack?

699
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 6: Because it didn't have anything to do with the play,

700
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 6: I know, but you can't line up and that's why

701
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 6: they and that's why they called it front.

702
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 3: I'll repeat it. I think they had to call it.

703
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: But it was so it's a ticky tack like if

704
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: it was a toe, I'd say that's tick. The guy's

705
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: body was in the neutral zone.

706
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 3: I understand what I'm saying, yes, But I also like

707
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 3: last night, I forget which game it was, because I

708
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 3: was flipping back and forth between the two. But they

709
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 3: called an illegal formation because like the tight end didn't

710
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 3: come like fully set and then he he set in time,

711
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 3: And I was like, these are the types of things

712
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 3: that maybe a hundred years ago, when you're running the

713
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 3: you know, Army Navy wishbone, like this mattered, but like

714
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter anymore, Like why are we throwing flags

715
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 3: and like you know, costing games and things like that

716
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 3: on things that just don't have a bearing.

717
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 6: And that's my point, Like it didn't have anything to

718
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 6: do with the play itself, Like it's not like he

719
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 6: was running toward the line of scrimmage and therefore got

720
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 6: a step on the defensive back.

721
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to call that, That's what I think.

722
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes's argument was not that now.

723
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 6: I think they have to call it because and I

724
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 6: thought someone on I think it was, Oh God, I

725
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 6: forget who it was. Was a former player I thought

726
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 6: made a great point, like what are we doing. We're

727
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 6: losing our minds over this stuff. It's very simple, like

728
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 6: should Buffalo have really won that game against Denver when

729
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 6: Denver missed the field goal because they had too many

730
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 6: men in the fi didn't have anything to do with

731
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 6: the play.

732
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 3: The twelfth guy was way over there, wasn't involved anywhere.

733
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 3: Like should we not call it because it didn't really

734
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 3: impact the play? No, they had twelve guys in the field.

735
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 3: You have to throw the flag, right, you have to right,

736
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 3: how do you fix and I think that guy's offside.

737
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 3: You have to throw the flag.

738
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 6: And by the way he was over the ball, he

739
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 6: wasn't even in the neutral zone. I know, did you

740
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 6: see that the poll report? What the referee said? No,

741
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 6: the guy whoever that the side judge or the line

742
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 6: and judge whatever, I don't know which one is the

743
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 6: guy that's you know, responsible for on the side there.

744
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 6: But he said he couldn't see the ball because he

745
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 6: was That's how far he was over the ball, right.

746
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 7: I mean his full time referees?

747
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: Is that?

748
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 7: Is that an answer?

749
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 10: Like?

750
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 7: What is the answers? Conspiracies?

751
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 3: But Paul in a in a room have a paull

752
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 3: at every single game up in the booth and when

753
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: they make it, I don't think you want. I'm just saying, like,

754
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 3: have somebody that.

755
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: Really do I'll tell you who got away with one.

756
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: The Patriots to on the play that wasn't that wasn't

757
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: a false start. The center jerked. They said, he moved his.

758
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 7: Hand right and then they said that and then you

759
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 7: look at it, they said, like, you know, if it's

760
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 7: an abrupt like the guy just like.

761
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: They said, he split his hand on the ball.

762
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 6: I know, I know they're trying to crack down on

763
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 6: that because I think that's a move on short yardage

764
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 6: on fourth downs. They're trying to prevent the long staff

765
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 6: from doing stuff. But it was another one of the

766
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 6: I was on with this after the game. Oh yeah,

767
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 6: he thinks you got to work.

768
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 7: You could see just from his reaction. It's like the

769
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 7: punt return like sometimes you watch the player, you know,

770
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 7: the offending player after a call. It's just their reaction

771
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 7: tells you whether or not it was a.

772
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: Call or not.

773
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't remember which it was the xfl AFF

774
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 3: whatever spring league it was, I don't remember, aye, but

775
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 3: they had like a sky judge and at the game,

776
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 3: and whenever there was one of these little judgment calls

777
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 3: going on, if he would watch the replay back quickly

778
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 3: and within ten seconds he'd be buzzing down to the

779
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 3: revs on the field and saying no, like we're not

780
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 3: he wasn't offside or he didn't fall start or whatever.

781
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 3: And I just feel like those are the things that

782
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 3: you can do it where it's not prolonging the game

783
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: for an hour, like you can do it where it's

784
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 3: prolonging the game for five minutes, and I think we

785
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 3: would all be better off for it.

786
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 6: I think the answer you a question, and I don't know,

787
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 6: like listen, there's no full proof method. Obviously these these

788
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 6: calls are going to get missed, but they need to

789
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 6: do something to samplify the rules so they're not so

790
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 6: complicated that we're looking at it and one guy is saying, well,

791
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 6: he slid his hand on the ball on a man or,

792
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 6: like what do we do?

793
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 7: And that's why you think, like getting all these guys

794
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 7: in a room like I don't know what the referee

795
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 7: process is like where they have like you know, we

796
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 7: have recap calls, you know, how do we do in

797
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 7: the game, Like I'm sure that there's something like that

798
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:20,959
Speaker 7: in place, but it's at the same time, these guys

799
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 7: go back to their jobs. They have lives that they're leading,

800
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 7: and you know, I think the sky judge like it's

801
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 7: even thinking about like reughing youth hockey games. It's like, wow,

802
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 7: that really takes the pressure off of you know, if

803
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 7: I miss something or you know, I thought I saw

804
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 7: it one way. I mean, it's just it's it's hard

805
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 7: but going to be mistakes.

806
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: I've heard, you know, some theories that you know, having

807
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: the pressure off means they don't they're not as vigilant,

808
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, I know I'm going

809
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 1: to get corrected, so they're not as like on point.

810
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I guess. I mean there's probably an

811
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 7: argument for for I mean, there's an argument for these

812
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 7: guys all go to like what Colorado springs and they

813
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 7: all study they do.

814
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's a lot of rules that made sense,

815
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: and they were put into the rule book fifty years ago.

816
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: And that one.

817
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 6: I Felder's wrong on that, But we can do that

818
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 6: a different day.

819
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: I heard that rant, and I get it. The game

820
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: has changed and when the rule was made probably it

821
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: made sense. Now it doesn't. But if they changed that

822
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: rule or those types of rules or took them out,

823
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: a coach like Belichick would start taking advantage of that.

824
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 6: But not only that, Even if you don't change the

825
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 6: rules like he says, like, you can't tell the difference

826
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 6: between Trent Brown and Pop Douglas. No, Mike, but what's

827
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 6: what's just be the difference between if Pop Douglas is

828
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 6: on the line and it's Hunter Henry at the end, right,

829
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 6: and they're both on the line, only one of those

830
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 6: guys is an eligible receiver, right, right. So if there's

831
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 6: no rules, how do I how do I know who

832
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 6: to cover?

833
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 7: Chaos?

834
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 3: Like asked the Baltimore Ravens about that one, right, No,

835
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 3: but that at least was like, Uh, that was a

836
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 3: trick play.

837
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 6: This could be like an everyday Yeah.

838
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 3: I just think that there's certain things that are cluttering

839
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: the rule book because there's so many Like to your point,

840
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 3: there's so many rules, and I think some of these

841
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 3: rules could probably be taken out that we wouldn't.

842
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think they could do that and

843
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 6: simplify things. The catches I think still adjudicated so inconsistently.

844
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 6: A couple of weeks ago, AJ Brown caught a pass

845
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 6: in overtime in that game against the Bills, took two

846
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 6: full steps and had a third almost down, got hit stripped,

847
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 6: fumble Buffalo recover. Should have been the end of the game,

848
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 6: they went to replay and said, no, incomplete pass. Fine,

849
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 6: I watch a pass that Josh Allen completes down the

850
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 6: sideline ti Latavius Murray that Murray never had complete control of.

851
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 6: He took two full steps, not a third, lost it

852
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 6: on his own, and they say it's a catching a fumble. Yeah,

853
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 6: like he never had that ball. If I was Kansas City,

854
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 6: that play would pissed me off a lot more than

855
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 6: the Tony player.

856
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, all right? Eight five to five

857
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: Pats five hundred is the ace taken outline web radio

858
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 1: at Patriots dot com is the email address.

859
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 7: Do you think we're gonna get some angry elite callers today?

860
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, sure, if not today when they catch up,

861
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 6: because no, seriously, because a lot of times they're not.

862
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 3: Like I already have I already have a tweet from somebody.

863
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 6: How about this play last night in the Miami game.

864
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 6: You watched this game a little bit, They just Hopkins

865
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 6: just tackled Xavian Howard as he's going to make an

866
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 6: interception and ends up being a bomb for a completion

867
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 6: at the end of the half, dragged his.

868
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: Arm down like like you could see him jerk down.

869
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 6: So you know, to Evan's point, we're making sure the

870
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 6: tight end is set, but we're not We're not worrying

871
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 6: about just like blatant passing appearance calls that give another

872
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 6: team fifty yards And I'm not talking about against the defense,

873
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 6: like this was going to be a pick. I don't

874
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 6: know if this is the play. I don't think, oh yeah, yeah,

875
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 6: that's going to be a pick. Yeah, And all of

876
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 6: a sudden, Howard is like picking a turf out of

877
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 6: his face.

878
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 3: Betteran savvy there you go.

879
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: Well he got away with it.

880
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 3: Can't play anymore.

881
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 6: By the way, Miami could be in a lot of

882
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 6: trouble with all those injuries.

883
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 7: Tyreek, right, well he came back.

884
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 6: Well yeah, yeah, he's hurt.

885
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: He was.

886
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 6: He was out of the game more than he was. Yeah,

887
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 6: but you know, missing Holland and Baker and uh all

888
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 6: the guys they have on defense, uh In Phillips, So

889
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 6: they have a key player at all three levels on defense.

890
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 6: They lost three starters on the offensive line last night.

891
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 6: You know, Tyreek Hill was a show like they're going

892
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 6: to be in trouble.

893
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 7: He's the m v P.

894
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 6: To me, They're gonna they're gonna be in trouble.

895
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: I honestly don't.

896
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 6: Well, he's my pick, I told you that.

897
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 3: But I think Jackson is the only reason why he's

898
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: not the consensus runaway MVP is because he plays wide receiver. Yeah,

899
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 3: and that's it. Like it's so if the m v

900
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 3: P is just the Quarterback of the Year award, then

901
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 3: just call it that, like that's it. Just because he

902
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 3: doesn't play quarterback, he basically has no chance to win

903
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 3: the m v P when he's clearly the most valuable

904
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 3: player on the field every time they play. I mean,

905
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: they took him out of that game last night. They

906
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 3: couldn't do anything.

907
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 6: Offensively, They couldn't really do I mean, they did things

908
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 6: with him in spurts. But I thought Mike McDaniel, and

909
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 6: I love me some Mike McDaniel, I thought he was

910
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 6: really bad last night. I thought he was really inconsistent

911
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 6: with his play call. Like, I don't know how you

912
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 6: can allow that touchdown at the end of the game

913
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 6: to make it a six point game and then just

914
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 6: go run, run, And then they were running wide all

915
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 6: night with great success when this two and a half

916
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 6: minutes left. You can't do that because you can't run

917
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 6: the risk that he gets knocked out of bounce. So

918
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 6: now you're in your four minute offense, so to speak,

919
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 6: and what's gotten you there? Like they had, they had

920
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 6: no answers, Evans right, like Tyreek Hill left the game

921
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 6: and they had no answers. And that to me is

922
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 6: on McDaniel. They have plenty of talent.

923
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 3: He just creates so much space for the offense, you know,

924
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 3: vertically and horizontally that even when he's not getting the ball.

925
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 3: That's why they put him back on the game on

926
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 3: the bum ankles, just to use him as a deep coy.

927
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 3: And they almost hit a huge play to itching in

928
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 3: on the sideline that too, just kind of overthrew the

929
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 3: ball a little bit, but you watch the playback and

930
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 3: both defensive backs and it leaves him wide open behind him.

931
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 6: That place should have ended, well, I mean they should yeah,

932
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 6: I mean I should have been like by they're up

933
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 6: by fourteen with three minutes.

934
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 1: This crazy ending to this season.

935
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 6: But I do I do we get more? We got more?

936
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: Breaking?

937
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 7: This is an interesting uh Trent Brown took to social media.

938
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 7: I should actually this should be timera social media in

939
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 7: it here. Uh Trent Brown took to social media to say,

940
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 7: go by to Matt Lee Cunningham with a go flourish

941
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 7: where your talent is respected, little brou.

942
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 6: I'll tell you, yeahs number say that you just remember

943
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 6: nine hundred and eleven why you should embrace Trent Brown

944
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 6: as just the ultimate team.

945
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 5: I will say, he's not the only person who's who

946
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 5: tweeted at Malik Juwan Bentley also tweeted something very similar.

947
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 4: So they're all very.

948
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: Happy for him.

949
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 6: That is well, it's one thing well, but absolutely fine

950
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 6: to be happy with him and with the real team exactly.

951
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 6: There's a difference between that.

952
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 4: But they say.

953
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 6: The same thing.

954
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 4: You deserve to go bro.

955
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 6: Okay, but that's not the same as what Trent Brown said.

956
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 6: Trent Brown took a rocket shot at the Patriots coaches,

957
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 6: who evidently are too stupid to know what they had

958
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 6: and Evan, why me, because you think I know he

959
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 6: stas So I didn't put words in your mouth, but

960
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 6: a lot of stuff I like the weekends when I

961
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 6: just sort of like Herbert was put on I R

962
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 6: two and that that's another one, by the way, So

963
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 6: I know we've already been talking about the Chargers as

964
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 6: a potential landing spot. I think that's going to be

965
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 6: the final nail in the coffin for Brandon Staley, that

966
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 6: he's out, like they won't be able to move, like

967
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 6: he's the whole team. Herbert's the whole team. The other

968
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 6: di did you watch any of that game? Probably not

969
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 6: much because.

970
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: It was watch the game against the Patriots. If it

971
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: wasn't Herbert.

972
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,479
Speaker 7: I got so agitated this Sunday because they had less

973
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 7: than that. I was watching Red Zone and I'm just

974
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 7: sitting there, like, how the hell does Paul remember all

975
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 7: this crap? Like I can't keep it, Like I have

976
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 7: to get up for two seconds. I come back and

977
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 7: someone scored and I don't know what it was, And

978
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 7: it's again sometow you're just like cataloging everything in your

979
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 7: brain the whole time. You don't even break focus the

980
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 7: whole time, and you can just like.

981
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 6: I will also say that I was a little skeptical

982
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 6: of the setup last night. Found it absolutely awesome. It

983
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 6: was like a mini red it was like a mini

984
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 6: red zone.

985
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 3: It was it was pretty good.

986
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 6: I mean, it certainly helped that both games were excellent.

987
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 6: They went down.

988
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 3: I wish that it was that so sometimes they would

989
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 3: have the two box. I wish that there was a

990
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 3: channel where the two box existed the whole time, because

991
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 3: I would watch that.

992
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 6: Couldn't toggle quick enough. I was just going, I was

993
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 6: just going loud.

994
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 3: It's just I'm too lazy for that.

995
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 6: Like you love one button push it, you know, like

996
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 6: it's only one button.

997
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 3: Away, that's all I gotta do. Yeah, No, I just

998
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 3: wanted I wanted both of those. And then you know which,

999
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 3: the Giants game ended first, So I flipped over to

1000
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 3: the Giants game and then yeah, I just just give

1001
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 3: me screen.

1002
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 6: Well, I like, I went over to the Giants game

1003
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 6: pretty much exclusively after the Dolphins had made it a

1004
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 6: fourteen point game. And then like even like the first

1005
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 6: couple of plays, they're down fourteen, Tennessee's like they completed

1006
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 6: a pass for like three yards. Then they got a penalty,

1007
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 6: and I was like, they just all of a sudden,

1008
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 6: they come back and they're on like the thirty and

1009
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 6: I'm like, whoa, that was quick, And then like I

1010
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 6: thought Orlowski, by the way, some of his some of

1011
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 6: his tweeting makes a lot more sense. He is an

1012
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 6: unbelievable quarterback apologist.

1013
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 7: They are former quarterbacks. I feel like they're I mean,

1014
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 7: wide receivers a lot.

1015
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 6: You would have thought will Levis last night splitting at

1016
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 6: him the way he was describing will Levis's play, who,

1017
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 6: by the way, I thought was really good at the.

1018
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: Leven saying split his head open, I mean going yeah,

1019
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: but after the game, no, early in the game, like

1020
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: trying to take on linebackers and you know, trying to

1021
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: make tackles in the end zone.

1022
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 7: That picked sixty through. Its like I've never I hadn't

1023
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 7: seen that happen, and I don't know ever.

1024
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: Where he threw it, right, he has he is a rocket.

1025
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 6: He tried to do that about two other times on

1026
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 6: screen passes.

1027
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 7: Right at that point. That was my point.

1028
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 6: Christian Wilkins had one in his hands later in the

1029
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 6: game and couldn't hold onto it.

1030
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 7: He's tough.

1031
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 1: He has an arm though, that kid.

1032
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 6: Yes, but that was that was good last thing because

1033
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 6: both games are coming down with the wire and back

1034
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 6: and forth.

1035
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: H Aaron's in Flint, Michigan. What's up, Aaron? Hey?

1036
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 11: Hey, guys, how's it going. Base for taking my car today?

1037
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 12: Sure?

1038
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 7: Thanks?

1039
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 11: Uh well, I didn't want to have been a little

1040
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 11: bit about that car with Kansas City because the few

1041
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 11: times that I've seen games where the offense would light

1042
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 11: up offside, the riff would throw the flag when he

1043
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 11: says the snap was imminent. They let the plane play

1044
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 11: all the way out score then he decided to throw

1045
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 11: a flag. So it's not sure.

1046
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 6: It's not the same thing. It's not the same. If

1047
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 6: a guy is not set at the snap and he's

1048
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 6: moving and that's an illegal motion, you know, or something

1049
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 6: like that, they let the play go. If it's a

1050
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 6: false start and someone jumps like an alignment, goes out

1051
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 6: of his stands, that's different. Then they're gonna blow the

1052
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 6: play dead. But a guy lining up offside at a standstill,

1053
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 6: they're not gonna blow the whistle on that. That's happened. Actually,

1054
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 6: I've seen a different couple of different websites with different numbers,

1055
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 6: but the one I saw that was most prevalence. That's

1056
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 6: the thirteenth time an offensive offside was called this year,

1057
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 6: and it's happened to offensive lineman a lot.

1058
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, because technically he's not offside until the ball snap,

1059
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: so you can't correct the whistle snap penalty, and.

1060
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 6: It's Philadelphia has gotten called. Jason Kelsey has gotten called

1061
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 6: on tush pushes, so like he's lined up over the

1062
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 6: ball in an effort to sort of get a better pushy.

1063
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 6: I think Green Bay's gotten called for it in similar

1064
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 6: situations a couple of times.

1065
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 11: Well I'm glad you guy cleared it up for me.

1066
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1067
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 11: I was starting to you know, I'm a bidding man.

1068
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's uh. It was a tough one if

1069
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 6: you had Kansas City in that game. I do feel it.

1070
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 6: The only thing I will say for all the people

1071
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 6: that were talking about this and had it been a touchdown,

1072
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 6: and I'm not telling you this would have happened, but

1073
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 6: I think we've all seen teams go down and score

1074
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 6: in a minute eight with three timeouts.

1075
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 7: Certainly those two teams against Okay.

1076
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 6: So you know, I think there's been a lot of

1077
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 6: all the game they cost them the game. You know,

1078
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 6: that's a little strong in my opinion.

1079
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: Thanks Aaron.

1080
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 6: All right, And as great as everything was over the

1081
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 6: weekend with seeing highlights of one of the worst things

1082
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 6: I've ever seen in my life to marry you almost

1083
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 6: got it, Chiefs.

1084
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 5: I almost got a zero zero game if they kept if.

1085
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 6: They kept Josh Dobbs in the game, you would have

1086
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 6: gotten your zero zero game because the only reason why

1087
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 6: they scored is Nick Mullins made two or three throws

1088
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 6: that that Dobbs wouldn't have.

1089
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 5: Which is crazy because I bet was that What was

1090
00:46:58,480 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 5: the over under for that game?

1091
00:46:59,440 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 4: Was it expected?

1092
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna guess it was more than three. It was

1093
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 3: more than the Patriots.

1094
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 4: Wasn't the Patriots game?

1095
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 3: Wasn't this that was the lowest of the year, lowest

1096
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 3: in wrong. Plenty of offense in the Patriots game.

1097
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 6: But again the two turnovers. Yeah, gave touchdowns to both teams.

1098
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 3: It still was a would have been over thirty and

1099
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 3: a half you take away fifteen points.

1100
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 7: Yeah. Do you think if you said in the meeting

1101
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 7: this morning's just about scoring being down? Do you think

1102
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 7: this is gonna be something that's talked about a lot

1103
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 7: this offseason of trying to unravel Is this, you know,

1104
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 7: a one offer? Is this a trend in the league

1105
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 7: that's gonna kind of keep?

1106
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: I don't think one season you get too knee jerk.

1107
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: I think it's it'll probably bounce right back up now.

1108
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 7: But do you think like everybody's gonna be talking about

1109
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 7: like the draft and trends and all these kind of

1110
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 7: things going forward of you know, well, it's it's not

1111
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 7: as much of a scoring league and you know what

1112
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:50,240
Speaker 7: that means.

1113
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,959
Speaker 3: But it's relatively down relative to the last like five

1114
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 3: years or so.

1115
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 6: But if you go back like further than that, it's

1116
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 6: still it's still plenty of other planies. I mean, there

1117
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 6: was a three nothing game, but there's you know, twenty eight,

1118
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:02,959
Speaker 6: twenty sevens too.

1119
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think we're a little jaded because of

1120
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 1: the page correct.

1121
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1122
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 5: And then I also think this is like an abnormal

1123
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 5: amount of like starting quarterbacks who are out already.

1124
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like that's just it's.

1125
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: Just keep players starting quarterbacks.

1126
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 6: That's my biggest reason tomorrow. I think there's been more

1127
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 6: top flight quarterbacks hurt this year than is normal.

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00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 7: I got a question for the group that that just

1129
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 7: occurred to me. Do you think that the prevalence of

1130
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 7: gambling now has affected the outrage on the referees a

1131
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 7: little bit more? Where people are tangibly losing money on

1132
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 7: some of these calls?

1133
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 6: And I think more I think because of its legality.

1134
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 6: I think more people are affected.

1135
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, and care with their with their wallets in their pocketbooks,

1136
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 7: like you know they pocketbooks?

1137
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, you did you have a pocket book?

1138
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:52,919
Speaker 1: The book it's part it's part pocketbook, book jacket, and Arbor.

1139
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 1: About booing, he says the only legitimate reason for booing

1140
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: at a sporting event is to show disapproval for unsportsman

1141
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: like conduct or lack of professional effort. Otherwise, booing is

1142
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: bad form, and any fan who boos in any other

1143
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: circumstance should be ashamed of himself.

1144
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if, because first of all,

1145
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 3: I would say that.

1146
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 6: Then based on that, which I don't agree with, I

1147
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 6: think you can. If you're a fan, you pay money,

1148
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 6: you should boot anything you want to boo at. But

1149
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 6: based on that, I understand why Pittsburgh was booing. I

1150
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 6: think there was a lack of professional effort in that game.

1151
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 7: I just booed when Brady came back, just like I just.

1152
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 6: Like I called the Patriots out earlier in the season

1153
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 6: at times for what I thought was a lack of

1154
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 6: professional effort, Jalen Mills trying to tackle uh Sam Howell

1155
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 6: being an example.

1156
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 5: So do you think the booing at mac Jones was

1157
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 5: a lack of professional effort or that?

1158
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 6: No, I don't. I don't ever think Mac Jones is problems.

1159
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 3: But I but I all said a word. Deuce has

1160
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 3: been doing him for it before he even started playing.

1161
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 6: If you pay, you pay like hundreds of dollars to

1162
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 6: go to a game, and you want to pull it

1163
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 6: like this is not my thing. I don't I don't

1164
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 6: know the kids. Let's I don't think I've ever actively

1165
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 6: booed at a sporting event. But man, yeah, but I

1166
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 6: don't look at evidence say you shouldn't boom. I've definitely

1167
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 6: the events you've been to, I don't like you like no,

1168
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 6: I'm just saying like boom, Like have I been pissed?

1169
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like we're.

1170
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 5: Definitely booed at bad like calls by refs. I definitely

1171
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 5: boot at those.

1172
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 3: I feel like Pittsburgh fans though, just I'm sorry, I'm

1173
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 3: sorry to take to do this, but like, at some

1174
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 3: point you you have to start getting sick of the

1175
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 3: mediocrity in Pittsburgh too, like we have.

1176
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 6: He's on the hot seat. I can't believe.

1177
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 3: At some point, Yeah, it's cool that he hasn't had

1178
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 3: a losing season, but like ninety eight is not.

1179
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 6: It's just last week it is, and the Patriots took

1180
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 6: care of me the next night.

1181
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just he gets a lot of credit for

1182
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 3: not having any losing seasons, but Tomlin, but they don't

1183
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 3: win anything, so like.

1184
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 6: What what threat to win anything? And when they have

1185
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 6: a team good enough to win everything, they typically fell short.

1186
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's just I don't know. I think

1187
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 3: that that team has the Patriots, even this version of

1188
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 3: the Patriots were able to out exitent Oh the Steelers again,

1189
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 3: how many times is that gonna happen to that regime

1190
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 3: that a coach like Bill or whoever can come in

1191
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 3: there and, you know, all the time and out coach them,

1192
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 3: and the Patriots are or they're two and nine coming

1193
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 3: into that game like there are two ten. They're not good.

1194
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 3: They're not good, and they're still out coaching all right.

1195
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Speaker 14: Along again everyone, a very pleasant, good evening and welcome

1219
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 14: to Akrashur Stadium here in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, where the two

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00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 14: and ten New England Patriots confront the seven and five

1221
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 14: Pittsburgh Steelers. Takes the staff from Andrews stands in, does

1222
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 14: a high lock keep down the loft side.

1223
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 10: For Juju Smith Schuster.

1224
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 15: He makes the catch over the jonder and throw, with

1225
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 15: smith Schuster adjusting to make the grab. Climbing Fitzpatrick and

1226
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 15: hauling it in back in Pittsburgh at the Steeler fifty

1227
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:43,919
Speaker 15: six yard lost.

1228
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 9: A hell of a catch fight by Juju here. Now

1229
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 9: Bailey has the roll when he threw it because of

1230
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 9: the pressure. He put a nice arc on this fault

1231
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 9: that there's two guys back here. He splits the coverage,

1232
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 9: tims the back of it. That's a thirty seven yard

1233
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 9: teen earlier.

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00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 14: Zapping on a second down and eight after the two

1235
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 14: yard game motioning torking from the left, Baily takes a snap.

1236
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 10: He does it right for Helly.

1237
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 14: It makes the ten ten turns.

1238
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 10: It right here the five dime the zone.

1239
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 14: The Patriots put a touchdown take the lead of the game.

1240
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 10: First series here in Pittsburgh.

1241
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 9: What what a dry by Billy O'Brien to open up

1242
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 9: this football game.

1243
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 10: Look at the energy that Bailey's happy is. You have

1244
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 10: missed this whole snap. The back of Drimisky drops back,

1245
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 10: moves up, fires to the.

1246
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,720
Speaker 15: Lattist pick um let me white tie JC Jackson forty

1247
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Speaker 15: five to the forty one.

1248
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 10: A thunder staff.

1249
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 14: Spins around Trimisky and he's dropped down to thirty nine.

1250
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 14: There is a flag in the secondary and it will

1251
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 14: be past interference on New England.

1252
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 10: What a tough what a bad grow by Damiski, great

1253
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Speaker 10: read by.

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Speaker 11: The Seri defense number twenty nine. This is a spot

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Speaker 11: wow and an all a matter of.

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Speaker 1: Course down.

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Speaker 10: I didn't see it. They might have got the wrong

1258
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Speaker 10: number here. J. C.

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00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 14: Jackson identified as the guilty.

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Speaker 10: Oh that's a chicken ass call.

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00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 14: He wow snafter bhiskey has it? He right it right

1262
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 14: a head and he's hot and tackled by Matt will

1263
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 14: soon know. When Tbisky could not escape trying to guard

1264
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:12,919
Speaker 14: through the middle, Wilson takes him down.

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00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 10: Then he sums out it. Let's get Tramiski. Girls have

1266
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 10: a little foot by Peppers.

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00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 15: Got the right side thirty twenty five, twenty right sideline fifteen,

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00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 15: cut left to the ten at Jabril has the morn

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00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 15: broad rested up at the eleven.

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Speaker 9: What what a call? Defensively they showed blitz to the right.

1271
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 9: They bill out from the right. They sent Brian on

1272
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 9: the blitz from the corner. He was on pickets and

1273
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 9: Trubisky just throw the duck backside handed girl.

1274
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 10: We'd seen that panic girl before and good for Jabrill Peppers.

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00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 9: He's been playing his ass off for Robny Weeks now

1276
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 9: gets one right there.

1277
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 10: When you're in the phone again, you've got to punch

1278
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 10: his head.

1279
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 14: A snap shoulder highers out, he shot back, goes back.

1280
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 15: At the end of Henry hunches up.

1281
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 10: He's got his fourth touchdown. Catch has the Patriots had

1282
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 10: two again?

1283
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 9: Calm cool, collected, you go gun inside the ten. It's

1284
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 9: Sappy just throws a dime right.

1285
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 10: Underneath the goldpost. Perfect touch to where Hunters could go

1286
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 10: up and get it. Happy birthday, Hunter Henry. By the way,

1287
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 10: what a catch. You're up fourteen to three. Wow. Zappy

1288
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 10: on the plavor turns him up. Henry in the end

1289
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 10: of the breaks their cash exam.

1290
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 9: Touchdown patres three touchdowns by number four. Tonight, Bailey, Zappy

1291
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 9: is come to play, baby.

1292
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 10: You may have your quarterback right now for the rest

1293
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 10: of the year. Case closed.

1294
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 16: What a throw on the street to the Hunter Henry

1295
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 16: on the left Boundry play fake strong and he just

1296
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Speaker 16: throws a dime to Hunter Henry on the outstretched What

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00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 16: a catch, great throw.

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00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 14: Dun touches Smith Schuster a dime to Hunter Henry a

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00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 14: second touchdown, grabbing the name. A third touchdown pass for

1300
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 14: Bailey Zaffie.

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Speaker 9: Great covered plays on here on the Sideline's happy just

1302
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,439
Speaker 9: he knows it's his team now. He is having fun,

1303
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 9: showed some swagger that he was so relaxed at the

1304
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 9: podium this week and when he met with the media and.

1305
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 10: He said, we're close.

1306
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 14: As hard as it was to believe based on what

1307
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 14: we've seen as well these.

1308
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 10: Last several leagues. The snap at Drimisky, another gift by Dugger,

1309
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 10: a throw off the back one. If he ain't Zune

1310
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 10: cot touch down Pittsburgh. You didn't even throw that coy

1311
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 10: Big Dave Johnson is big one, big one by Mitch.

1312
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 7: Mitch.

1313
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 10: He did that more than anything.

1314
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 9: Tugger on the blitz again, he didn't get there and

1315
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 9: talks good blitz pickup. He almost took the guy doing

1316
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,439
Speaker 9: ready to trhiskey's lap, but he rolls a nice done.

1317
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: That's the best blow of the night.

1318
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 10: He takes the snap, he drops back, he's pressured. He

1319
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 10: sat a seen her comes up the middle. He landed in.

1320
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 10: Robert say that's Patriots, and.

1321
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 14: Then DJ Watt Miles on back after thirty three that.

1322
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: It should have been picked up.

1323
00:56:54,440 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 16: This is five on five, fine out Pittsburgh their second

1324
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 16: his seconds.

1325
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 10: One thing with the strain. It's amazing how help long

1326
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 10: it takes the lead play to get in.

1327
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 9: It's just a little loop around blitz or Atlanta Roberts

1328
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 9: back communication up front.

1329
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 10: And offens line. That's that one up. Back's up, Ryan

1330
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 10: Dumb to the blitz. Dr Biskey trycas ga't nowhere to go?

1331
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 14: War and more is there in front of him and

1332
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 14: Deffor and Bryan are there behind the pick.

1333
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 10: Get off right there for the d a sack at

1334
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 10: midfield more New England.

1335
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 9: I'll check the stairs on smart it clap from the

1336
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 9: potat nowhere for the brisky to go and that s

1337
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 9: guy's got some hills.

1338
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 10: Up in front.

1339
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 12: If you're a man there as they were the shoulder

1340
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 12: eye staffed to Zappi, shovels back stats up, Fredrick sat

1341
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 12: pick him down at the thirty covered sacks.

1342
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 10: Hey wordy in on a sack that gets him eaty

1343
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 10: for his career.

1344
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 6: Covern sack right there.

1345
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 9: Defense gotta savy again here get a boom and kick

1346
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 9: flip flip the field again.

1347
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 10: Alias took the Ryan who Zappi play thing for him?

1348
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 14: Bailey dropping back, he throws him across from the balls

1349
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 14: back from there flinning rightside thirty five thirty to the twenty,

1350
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 14: wrapped up and brought to the near sideline.

1351
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 10: The interception by Michael Walker off to the flection.

1352
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: I could put the game.

1353
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 9: There's a fun little play like that, the flected ball,

1354
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 9: locket coming down on a little bit and you get

1355
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 9: the play fake there the sort of babies that the

1356
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 9: problem is seeking Jujior almost in the.

1357
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 10: Same light, you know the sideline. It's not a good thrown,

1358
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 10: but it's sort of an confusing round combination. Here was

1359
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 10: one earlier with Juju and Hunter Henry Short in the

1360
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 10: same area.

1361
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 14: The stat fat chest dogs hat. He dropped that directured

1362
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 14: by Walker rolling White looking down good throws in near side.

1363
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 14: That pass well, it is nearly intercepted. He threw it

1364
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 14: George Thornton sliding along the boundaries. It was a bit

1365
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 14: feet high him when the feelers coming up with the

1366
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 14: stop danger this.

1367
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 9: Bailey's got to take over here and realize why you've

1368
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 9: been giving this opportunity.

1369
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 10: Got to protect the football.

1370
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 14: So while you're in this game, Joey Porter Junior sliding

1371
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 14: across the sideline and.

1372
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 10: Barringer hunts for the wobbler rolling across the twenty five

1373
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 10: yard line.

1374
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 14: A miss hit if it wasn't blocked, and it did

1375
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 14: not appear to be at first glass As the Steelers

1376
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 14: cover up on the ball deep in New England's territory.

1377
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 10: Cup kids bump was back to barringer and it wasn't fuck.

1378
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 14: It was Blacklock coming in from the left, reaching out

1379
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 14: with his left hand, Miles killoproof. So Miles Killoproof coming

1380
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 14: in from the left was able to extend with the

1381
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:29,919
Speaker 14: left hand.

1382
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: I uncovery.

1383
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 10: This is the block. Washington, the tight end now from

1384
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 10: full back to the right leg. You're missing with a

1385
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 10: gimpy ring read.

1386
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 14: He tried the option pass and the ball was beat

1387
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 14: it down one tight end coming in motion left to right.

1388
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 14: Tried to love it to Washington leaking off that right

1389
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 14: side and beat bolts and knocked.

1390
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 10: It down for the matrix right the.

1391
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 9: Pittsburgh Steelers first and goal at the one back kid

1392
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 9: of the gun fire.

1393
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 10: If you're low, it's the fly. He takes the staff.

1394
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 10: He's gonna stake it straight ahead.

1395
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 14: The quarterback breaks the playing toutchdown Pittsburgh Wilson leaping knocked

1396
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 14: down the pass on the option to drow from.

1397
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 10: One tight end to another.

1398
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 14: Nearly picked off, where then the Steelers with a reprieve

1399
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 14: score on the ensuing snap, Traviski with the guy the

1400
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 14: snata Drwisky fires if not passing cut.

1401
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 10: Fire with the front of peppers. This is a three

1402
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 10: point game.

1403
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 9: As what I'm doing right now, a block cut leads

1404
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 9: to an eight point trip for the Steelers. Let this

1405
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 9: bump get you back in the game, the stat the

1406
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 9: Drubisky backing up throws.

1407
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 10: A long call and he's never let un for Johnson and.

1408
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 15: The pass is incomplete with Jonathan.

1409
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 14: Jones stride for stride, and again the Steelers take a

1410
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 14: deep shot down the left sideline.

1411
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 10: With one fifty five to go.

1412
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 9: What a dumb offense, What a dumb, dumb, stupid call.

1413
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 9: Start the buses. Haven't said that in a while.

1414
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: All right, back here on Patriots on filter at eight

1415
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: five to five Pats five hundred, it is the ace

1416
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: ticket hutline where radio at Patriots dot com is the

1417
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: email address. Lots of emails coming in a particular subject

1418
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: that I'm seeing recurring here in my email list. Noah

1419
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 1: from Toronto. It seems to me that in the past

1420
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: few days has been a noticeable shift in media in

1421
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: fan opinions on whether Bill Belichick's should stay next year.

1422
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: Are we really letting a three point win over Mitch

1423
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: Trubisky in wearing the Jolly Roger helmet on college game

1424
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 1: day change or perception of the leader of a three

1425
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: to ten team. It's good the team is still playing hard,

1426
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: but for me, that is not enough to compensate for

1427
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 1: the years of poor roster management that has been a

1428
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 1: subject line on a lot of the shows.

1429
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 7: I don't think it's a Navy helmet thing. I just

1430
01:01:58,160 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 7: think they won a game, and so people are like,

1431
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 7: it really that bad? I don't know. I mean, you're

1432
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 7: you're you know. That's why I think.

1433
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 6: People will trust you guys. I haven't really seen that well.

1434
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: I think that.

1435
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 6: I mean, I've seen the deadulation over him being a

1436
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 6: human being on game day, but I haven't seen that well.

1437
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: Tom Kurran addressed it yes last night on one of

1438
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 1: the shows on NBC Sports Boston, and he says that

1439
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: the decision was made to finant for definitively after the

1440
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: Germany game, that that was if there was any question

1441
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: that game.

1442
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 6: I haven't necessarily seen specifics like that, but that's how

1443
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 6: I feel about it is that things that happened at

1444
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 6: this point are really not going to impact.

1445
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.

1446
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 5: I felt like that Germany game was kind of like

1447
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 5: the icing on the cake, just just like go that

1448
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 5: far for your first international game, see the support that

1449
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 5: you have, and then just completely like, yes it was.

1450
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 4: It was very deflating.

1451
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 7: The little voice in the back of my head that

1452
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 7: I don't really love but this is what it is.

1453
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 7: After this game was just how much of a problem

1454
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 7: was Mac? Like how much of a problem has Mac

1455
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 7: been with this offense? Because I mean, I don't want

1456
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 7: to make out what Bailey's appy did was anything overwhelmingly great,

1457
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 7: but it looked like some progress and it looked like

1458
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 7: he took a little bit of a step just in

1459
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 7: terms of understanding the offense, playing within the offense, and

1460
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 7: you know, going back to last year, I just it

1461
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 7: just has never seemed to quite click with Mac, whether

1462
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 7: it was the Matt Patricia offense, whether it was the

1463
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 7: Bill O'Brien offense. It looked a certain way early on

1464
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 7: with Josh mcdaniels's rookie year, and I mean, and again

1465
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 7: I don't like I just I don't know if this

1466
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 7: is fair to bring up really with him, But I

1467
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 7: just wonder how much the team wanted to play for

1468
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 7: around him, and if this is just kind of you know,

1469
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 7: if this was something that was going on that had

1470
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 7: been present, and that maybe it's not just how he's

1471
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 7: playing within the offense, but how the team.

1472
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: I know you're bringing that up as like, I don't

1473
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: want to use the word excuse, but as a viable

1474
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 1: reason for what's going on. And if that's the case,

1475
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: does not Bill Belichick when he sits down with Robert

1476
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: Kraft talk about all of that, and does Robert Craft

1477
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 1: take that in as yeah, okay, But.

1478
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 5: You can also say Bill should have pulled him sooner.

1479
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 5: You saw that man was a wreck and broken and

1480
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 5: unable to do anything.

1481
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, you should have taken him out sooner.

1482
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 3: So that's still his fin if you really think it was.

1483
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,439
Speaker 1: What if Bill Belichick throws that back at you and says,

1484
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: we made a collaborative decision to draft mac Jones. I

1485
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: felt it was my responsibility to see if we could

1486
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 1: get something out of that decision.

1487
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 6: But you thought that that he was playing, You thought

1488
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 6: he was the reason that that you your offense wasn't successful.

1489
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 6: And then one of the reason. And then when you're

1490
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 6: questioned on why you didn't take him out earlier, Well,

1491
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 6: it's because we wanted to make sure that well.

1492
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 10: Which is it?

1493
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1494
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 6: Were you sure that it was he was the problem,

1495
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 6: or were you not sure that we gave him enough?

1496
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: We wanted to see if we could give him enough

1497
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 1: of a chance.

1498
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 3: Yea, I am, I am. You know my opinion, But

1499
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 3: I am certain that Bill will use Mac as the excuse.

1500
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 3: Of course he was, no doubt, He's definitely going to

1501
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 3: go in there and said, if we had competent quarterback

1502
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 3: play this year, we had been in the playoff on

1503
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 3: no doubt about it.

1504
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, but do you agree with that?

1505
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1506
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily disagree.

1507
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 6: It was two different things, but I agree with Evan

1508
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 6: if it's competent quarterback play as opposed to Bailey Zappy

1509
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 6: for the whole year.

1510
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 10: No, no, right.

1511
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 1: A guy who doesn't turn the ball over and runs

1512
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: the system, well.

1513
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 6: The school's points, turn the school points.

1514
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 3: I think he has to do more than just manage

1515
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 3: the game.

1516
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 1: Mac was truly a fifteenth round value. Yeah, that would

1517
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: be fifteen if.

1518
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 3: They had if they had the Mac Jones that they

1519
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 3: of his rookie season, which I think was they'd be

1520
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 3: in content, they'd be in playoff contention.

1521
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think definitely, Like is that a case to

1522
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:46,439
Speaker 4: be made?

1523
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 1: And does Robert Kraft take it in?

1524
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 7: I mean this and this connects back to the Bill thing,

1525
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 7: you know, and Paul and I kind of did the

1526
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 7: little segment for pu TV talking about this, and just

1527
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 7: the one point I made was that coming into this year,

1528
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 7: it was all like, we got to find out if

1529
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 7: what we have with Mac, we got to find out

1530
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 7: and I just I feel like they gave him every

1531
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 7: possible chance that they could, and maybe to a fault

1532
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 7: for sure, but I mean they got to the bye.

1533
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 7: They not only like I mean I always thought looking

1534
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 7: at this schedule when it came out, it's like, well,

1535
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 7: if things ain't going great with Mac, that this buye

1536
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 7: you go to Germany comeback. That's they even gave him

1537
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:18,919
Speaker 7: the bye. They gave him the week off to see

1538
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 7: if they could get him right. And that's why it's

1539
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 7: like Zappy again, didn't you know, didn't do all of

1540
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 7: sixty minutes, But we did see some progress from him.

1541
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 7: We did see like things that we just haven't seen

1542
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 7: from Mac, where it's like all right, he's starting to

1543
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 7: get it, like it's just every single.

1544
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 1: One and not disagreeing with you, But in the long run,

1545
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: is ZAPPI going to get to the playoffs? So what's

1546
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: the downside of giving Mac every possible and.

1547
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 7: And and you know, but I mean, I think what

1548
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 7: Tamara kind of hit on though, was that he looked broken.

1549
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 7: He looked like that there was no way that he

1550
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 7: could sell.

1551
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 3: But I still just feel like the reason why he

1552
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 3: got we got here with Mac is still Bill's fault.

1553
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 3: That is his fault, correct, And so like, regardless of

1554
01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 3: what the decisions he's making right now and the end

1555
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 3: of season stuff, like, I don't necessarily care as much

1556
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 3: about that because to me, the bigger problem is if

1557
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 3: you have the second overall pick in the draft and

1558
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 3: you draft Drake May, do you want to give Drake

1559
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 3: May to Bill Belichick? Like do you want to give

1560
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 3: him to Bill and have Bill surround him with talent

1561
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 3: and have build an offense around him and have Bill

1562
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 3: coach him and like all these different things, Because we

1563
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 3: just did it and it was a disaster. So what's

1564
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 3: is that the best course of action for the franchise?

1565
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 1: The argument on the other side, yep, Georgia and Virginia.

1566
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 1: I was listening to one of Paul's shows yesterday and

1567
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: I mentioned Craft's comments. I guess they're talking about the

1568
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: comments at college game Day talking about one longevity of

1569
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 1: the coaching staff. I had a thought, and I believe

1570
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: Alex Barth brought it up shortly thereafter. Do you all

1571
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: believe Craft's comments aren't an indication that Bill will be

1572
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 1: here next year? Or is it a word out to

1573
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 1: the next guy, whoever that may be, that if you

1574
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: come here, I'm not going to fire you in a

1575
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,919
Speaker 1: season or two, Like say the Panthers owner love the show.

1576
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 1: Holidays are a tad bit rough for me, but I'm

1577
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 1: always excited to listen to you guys and zone out

1578
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 1: for a bit and laugh along.

1579
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 6: So I heard lots on pack there.

1580
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: I heard some people say that, oh, that was a

1581
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 1: shot across the bow at people who would criticize him

1582
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 1: for getting rid of Bill, Like, hey, wait a minute,

1583
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:25,759
Speaker 1: I kept for twenty four years.

1584
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 6: That's what I think it was.

1585
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 1: You think it was?

1586
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he was letting everybody know this is

1587
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 6: not a decision I take lightly like I value loyalty.

1588
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 6: We've had a great relationship for a long time. I

1589
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 6: didn't just fall into this. This is something I've thought

1590
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 6: a lot about over the last several years. I know

1591
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 6: that's what I think he was telling everybody. Don't think

1592
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 6: that I just flippantly fired guys the way everybody else does.

1593
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 1: But I don't blame people for reading into every single

1594
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: public word that either he or Bill Belichick makes. But

1595
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 1: the conversation was about his businesses and why have they

1596
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: been successful? And I've heard him say this before, long

1597
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 1: before this thing with Bill Belichick. It's about hiring good people.

1598
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: And that was his answer. I don't think it had

1599
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: anything to do with Bill Belichick.

1600
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,759
Speaker 6: I don't that's what they're talking about.

1601
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 1: No, they weren't. They were talking about his businesses. They

1602
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 1: weren't talking about.

1603
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 6: On college game day. They're talking about his business.

1604
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 1: Yes, the question was, you've had so many successful businesses.

1605
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: What advice do you give to people which you can

1606
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 1: get you?

1607
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 6: I didn't know that.

1608
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, what advice do you give to people about building

1609
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 1: a business?

1610
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 3: I would I would ask who asked that question, what

1611
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:36,560
Speaker 3: the hell are you're wasting our time for?

1612
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 10: What are you doing?

1613
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 1: Listen? I'll give you.

1614
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 6: I don't really care what your paper business.

1615
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 12: That was it.

1616
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 6: That in college game and they.

1617
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 1: Were talking about the paper bit and he said, hiring

1618
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: good people, and you know, we've had good people and

1619
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 1: they stay a long time. And it had nothing to

1620
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: do with Bill, you know. And then the McAfee thing.

1621
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 1: I think people are making too big a thing about

1622
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 1: that too. I don't think it was a setup.

1623
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:58,799
Speaker 6: I don't think well, I don't think it was a setup.

1624
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:00,679
Speaker 1: You know, people are saying, oh, I'm there he asked

1625
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 1: Craft that question.

1626
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:02,640
Speaker 6: Oh that's ridiculous, you know.

1627
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:04,640
Speaker 1: I think I think all he did was say that,

1628
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's the decision to keep build, to

1629
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 1: get rid of Bill, to get a new quarterback, to

1630
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 1: keep staying with there's a lot of decisions that he

1631
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 1: has to make at the end of the season. He

1632
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 1: doesn't envy him, and it was that simple. I don't

1633
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: think it was a setup. I don't think it was

1634
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: pre planned.

1635
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 10: You know.

1636
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: I think people are just right now, We're just every

1637
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 1: little thing.

1638
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 7: He could have worded it a little better, I think,

1639
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 7: just you know, because the way he said it was like,

1640
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 7: I know what you have to do, and I mean

1641
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 7: it just it just felt like you've got to, you know,

1642
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 7: fire the all time greatest coach. Like that's what I

1643
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 7: felt like it.

1644
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 3: I think I think that McAfee too, and a lot

1645
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 3: of myself included. I don't watch a ton of College

1646
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 3: Game Day. I watched virtually none of it, right, and

1647
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 3: I didn't even know what it was. And I don't

1648
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 3: watch that's not true.

1649
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 1: It kind of and the signs and the mascot heads

1650
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 1: is capitalized.

1651
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 3: And I don't. I don't watch his regular show either,

1652
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,799
Speaker 3: So I don't consume a ton of Pat McAfee. Apparently

1653
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 3: that's just Pat McAfee. Like he's just that, that's who

1654
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,560
Speaker 3: he is. He shoots from the hip, and like so

1655
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 3: whether it's.

1656
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 7: Talking to tank tops and shooting from the him right.

1657
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 3: Whether it's talking to r KK, or it's talking to

1658
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers or it's talking whoever, he's just gonna say stuff.

1659
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 3: And like some you know, comparison that Bart gave to

1660
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 3: me is kind.

1661
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 10: Of like Zoe.

1662
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 3: He just like sometimes even he doesn't know what he's says, Yeah, right,

1663
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 3: sometimes you just say stuff, you know, And I think

1664
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 3: McAfee is kind of kind of the same way. I'm

1665
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:27,600
Speaker 3: with Fred on that.

1666
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 6: I think I agree, I definitely agree. I think that's

1667
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,759
Speaker 6: what he does. He shoots from that. He's not afraid.

1668
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 6: He shoots from the hip. I think that's what he

1669
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 6: was saying. I know what's happening. I don't envy you.

1670
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 7: Is Lee Corso always on the game to a show

1671
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 7: or is that just yes.

1672
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 6: But only only for a very He's not on the

1673
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 6: whole time.

1674
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's had some health issues.

1675
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, Kirk kurb Street does, in my opinion, a wonderful

1676
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 6: job of taking care of on that Steah. He all

1677
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 6: but has his arm around him.

1678
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 1: By the way, the next time, Bill says, I can't

1679
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 1: remember remember that he knew that Lee Corso had an

1680
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 1: eye firmation or a single play.

1681
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 7: That was I mean the Navy jokes aside though, that was.

1682
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 7: I thought to me just that that was a really

1683
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 7: cool moment, just seeing how much Lee Corso, oh yeah,

1684
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 7: and what Bill meant to him, and what he meant

1685
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 7: to Bill and you know, just too old Bill.

1686
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I agree, let's.

1687
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 1: See Matt framing him. As much as I like Belichick's

1688
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 1: human moments last Saturday for Army versus Navy, I also

1689
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 1: am very frustrated with him because in an awful season

1690
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,560
Speaker 1: like this, Belichick had every chance in the world to

1691
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 1: show his vulnerability and take full accountability for this dumpster fire,

1692
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 1: and Steady played the it's my ball, it's my rules,

1693
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 1: and if you don't follow, I'm gonna be mean to everyone.

1694
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 1: Last Thursday's went over the Steelers was nice, but let's

1695
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 1: be real, that's all. It was, the Steelers gagging.

1696
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 7: I feel the same way about all the players right now.

1697
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 7: It's like you watch these games and you're detached from

1698
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 7: the games, and you get frustrated with the team when

1699
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 7: they're not playing well, and you know, and then you

1700
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 7: go in the locker room and you joke around with them,

1701
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 7: and you know, Juju's, you know, nice guy, and you know,

1702
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 7: it's like, man, it's just it's hard to kind of separate.

1703
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 7: And it's the same thing with Bill. You know, you

1704
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 7: get so mad at what he's done to our team,

1705
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 7: but then you see him be a human and a

1706
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 7: kind of nice guy, and you know, even.

1707
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, the locker room stuff, definitely, I agree.

1708
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 5: It is definitely is interesting, especially Juju, who like has

1709
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 5: virtually done nothing all year obviously until Thursday, which I

1710
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 5: don't even know if you can call that like a lot.

1711
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 5: It was better than usual, but I think for him

1712
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 5: every single time we're in the locker room. He's always

1713
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 5: open to speaking and he always is open to answering

1714
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,639
Speaker 5: the hard questions even though he has done nothing all year.

1715
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, I do think too with Bill, it's just like

1716
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 7: you just want him to be like that. You want

1717
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 7: him to be the guy that's telling Ernie Adams story

1718
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 7: and you know, doing the joke like you just wish

1719
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 7: he was that guy just a time.

1720
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 6: But the you asked the question a while ago about

1721
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 6: you know, how much of this was Mac, And I

1722
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 6: do think that that's part of it, like with the

1723
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 6: whole thing. But has played you know, six quarters that

1724
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 6: looked to me exactly like it looked with Mac and

1725
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 6: he had two that Wow, Yeah, where'd that come from?

1726
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1727
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 6: You know, so I think it's the offense. Yeah, yeah,

1728
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 6: more so than everything.

1729
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 3: Play calling in the first half, like I was saying earlier,

1730
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 3: was so much different than the second half. They went

1731
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 3: back to the same. Yeah's conservative. I hope to see

1732
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 3: a little bit more of the first half aggressiveness. Yeah,

1733
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 3: And I would also say that in the first half

1734
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 3: of the first twenty three minutes, some guys made some

1735
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 3: plays like Juju makes a catch, Hunter, Henry, you know

1736
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 3: that ball stabbed it fifty to fifty on that ball,

1737
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 3: like that ball was really close to the safety breaking

1738
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 3: that pass up. I think, you know what, one thing

1739
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,560
Speaker 3: I'll give Zappy credit for on that play because I

1740
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 3: thought the throw was looking back on it on the

1741
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 3: All twenty two, I was like, oh, that was a

1742
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 3: little bit closer than I thought it.

1743
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,719
Speaker 6: Burb Street Yeah, said that's not a throw you're supposed

1744
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 6: to make against that comache And.

1745
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 3: He mentioned it at the after the game when I

1746
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 3: had asked him about He said, I was supposed to

1747
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:57,640
Speaker 3: be a whole shot and I kind of threw a

1748
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,560
Speaker 3: go ball, not a whole shot. But I think the

1749
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 3: biggest thing with that throw I will give him credit

1750
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 3: for is that I think he knew that Minca was

1751
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 3: on the other side of the field, and if mic

1752
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 3: is the half field safety on that side of the field,

1753
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 3: I don't think he would have thrown it because he

1754
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 3: would have known that Meca would have gotten it.

1755
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 6: And I do like the aggressiveness. That was kind of

1756
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 6: my theme this morning with my notes, was you know

1757
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 6: a little bit more of that. Let's see if this

1758
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 6: is yah. You know, was it a one off or

1759
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 6: is this part of Zappi's skill set, you know, can

1760
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 6: is he maybe a little bit better at because that throw?

1761
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 6: I mean, I agree with everything Evin said. We talked

1762
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 6: about it during the show, the postgame show, like yeah,

1763
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 6: I don't know if you want to make a living

1764
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 6: trying to make that. But the throw was perfect and

1765
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 6: the catch was even better. So it was sort of

1766
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 6: offense that we haven't really seen. So yes, please more

1767
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 6: of that if that can.

1768
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 3: I also think there's a difference between you like, yeah,

1769
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 3: I'm here for that too, like a competent quarterback play,

1770
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:54,720
Speaker 3: which is what Zappi gave you Phillist for half and

1771
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 3: terrible quarterback play like they like, yeah, Mac wasn't just

1772
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 3: bad when he was bad, Mac is terrible and that

1773
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 3: made them not competitive. So if you're saying, you know,

1774
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 3: if Matt, if you had changed Mac out for what

1775
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 3: you've gotten from Zappi, would they be better? I mean yes,

1776
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 3: Like that's how much.

1777
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,560
Speaker 6: Hard to be right, hard to be worse than that,

1778
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 6: But I just I just don't think the offense would

1779
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 6: be much better based on based on what I've seen.

1780
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 6: I mean, and we'shot, do you know, like for the

1781
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 6: for the year that Zappi's passer rating still is lower

1782
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 6: than Max I believe it.

1783
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 5: Do you think that the play calling, like the scheme

1784
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 5: that was Jon up for Mac, was the way it

1785
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 5: was because of the lack of confidence that they had

1786
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 5: in him, versus if they gave Mac that same game

1787
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 5: plan that they gave Zappy on Thursday, like the aggressive

1788
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 5: play calling the first half, would it have gone.

1789
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 3: The same way?

1790
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 1: But see, that's the thing.

1791
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 6: I think it would have because I think Pittsburgh was,

1792
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 6: as Fred said, checked out.

1793
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 1: Well, I think that was part of it. But like again,

1794
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 1: going back to the throw to Juju, I think that

1795
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 1: Mac sometimes chose not to make those.

1796
01:16:59,240 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, he hesitated.

1797
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 1: I don't think the offense was, you know, that different.

1798
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 6: I think it was a little different, But I don't

1799
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 6: think Juju. I mean, I don't think Mack would have

1800
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 6: made the throw to Hunter Henry because he wasn't supposed to.

1801
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 6: But the Juju one, I don't know. Maybe maybe he

1802
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 6: throws it out in front of him and it's a

1803
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 6: touchdown because that was a jump ball that he threw.

1804
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

1805
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 6: And this is why I'm not like, I think I

1806
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 6: loved what I saw in the first half because it's

1807
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 6: just been the whole year of nothingness on offense, you know,

1808
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 6: with very few exceptions. So they threw three touchdown passes

1809
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 6: the first half. I'm not going to sit here and

1810
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 6: nitpick at all, but I do recognize you get a

1811
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 6: pick six basically for seven of the points, and again,

1812
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 6: ev you take away that, like the block punt and

1813
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 6: the pick six, you take fifteen points off the board

1814
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 6: and you're under. Yeah, it's fourteen ten instead of twenty

1815
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 6: one eighteen. Like that's a big difference.

1816
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 3: I think.

1817
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 7: To the point for me is just we're talking right

1818
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 7: now at a snapshot in time of coming off of

1819
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:57,799
Speaker 7: this game where we've got Kansas City at Denver, at Buffalo,

1820
01:17:58,200 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 7: you know, the Jets. I mean, you got four really

1821
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 7: good AFC games that I think will really tell like

1822
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 7: answer all these questions about was does Zappie have anything

1823
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 7: or is it you know, is it the offense generally?

1824
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 7: Have they made any strides? Real teams that I think

1825
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 7: you can judge from these are these are the teams

1826
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 7: this team has to get back with a beat.

1827
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 1: You know, you know, I was thinking about that. There's

1828
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:19,640
Speaker 1: a lot of things I want to bring up here

1829
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 1: before the show's over, But I was thinking, who do

1830
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 1: I want to keep on this team? You know from

1831
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 1: what I've seen so far, Like you said, there's four

1832
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 1: games that you know are meaningful in terms of just

1833
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 1: guys playing out the string, and you know, who do

1834
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 1: we want? And I think I can come up with

1835
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 1: at least ten guys that I say, you know what,

1836
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 1: I want them on my team. You know.

1837
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 3: What if I told you to do it right now? Okay,

1838
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 3: off like on all sides of them both, Okay, I

1839
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 3: could probably get to to I've actually ten.

1840
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I could get to ten guys. Not necessarily that

1841
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 6: I like, I need to have these guys, but like

1842
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 6: sure I could get that I got because I only

1843
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 6: have like three guys like Christian Barmore. I need Christian Barmore,

1844
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 6: I need Christian Gonzales Like I don't have too many

1845
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 6: guys that I need.

1846
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 7: I got.

1847
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:11,599
Speaker 1: It's just a guy. I don't know if you need them,

1848
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 1: but I want them back. I want them back. They

1849
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 1: you know, they're good players and I want them back.

1850
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 7: I got twelve. I did this as an exercise with

1851
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 7: can I hear?

1852
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 6: Can I hear your twelve?

1853
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 1: Okay? Well, obviously you know bar More Keon White Gonzales.

1854
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 1: I think Jude On. You know that's four Douggart five.

1855
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 1: They gotta resign him. I want On when you back.

1856
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 1: I want Stevenson back. Let's see, uh, I want if

1857
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 1: he wants to keep playing. I want David Andrews back.

1858
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 1: What am I up to eight?

1859
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 6: You're up to eight?

1860
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 3: Eight Douglas?

1861
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, I didn't even have him on my list.

1862
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 1: I want, I want him, I want I want Anthony Jennings.

1863
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:56,640
Speaker 10: What what?

1864
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 1: Okay?

1865
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:58,640
Speaker 6: What else you got? I mean, these are guys you

1866
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 6: you have to have back. Like I didn't say, I

1867
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 6: said I want them back, Okay, but like, like, why

1868
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 6: can't you just have another Antony d? Because I respect

1869
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:08,720
Speaker 6: what they were A diamond.

1870
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:10,600
Speaker 1: Do No, But you need these guys. I mean you

1871
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 1: you can't.

1872
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 6: That's that's what I'm saying.

1873
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 1: Everybody can't be you.

1874
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 6: Know, Gonzales, I need him.

1875
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 3: You need to start. I need a potentially young, fifty

1876
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 3: three new players sixt year Fred. That's the only way

1877
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 3: for fifty three whole new place.

1878
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 6: You know, that's not what I'm saying. Right now, you're

1879
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:25,560
Speaker 6: making fun of me.

1880
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 3: I'm not.

1881
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 6: I'm saying I think there's a difference between I need

1882
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 6: to have these guys back, and sure, like Fromer Stevenson

1883
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 6: the last year of his deal, Sure I'll take them back.

1884
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 1: All these guys I've mentioned. Obviously, Gonzales is, you know, special,

1885
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: and I think bar More.

1886
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 6: I would, I would put Evans guys, all these special.

1887
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 1: But all these guys I mentioned have shown me that

1888
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 1: they they are, they want to play football, and they

1889
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 1: could be a good, you know, good part of the team.

1890
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 1: And why not. Why not have these foundational you know

1891
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 1: pieces here.

1892
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 6: You know, just I'm not sure they are. That's my point.

1893
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 1: It's like when ill to Check first came here, he

1894
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 1: brought in guys like Bobby Hamilton and and they're not great,

1895
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 1: but he knew that, Yeah, he knew that they would be.

1896
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 3: It would be the best player, solid, solid.

1897
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: Players on my team. You need those players too.

1898
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think that they Like foundational is not

1899
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:18,600
Speaker 3: the word I'd use for ninety percent of that. But

1900
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 3: like I'm with you, like in terms of just those

1901
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 3: are guys that can play roles on the team and

1902
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 3: our functional NFL starting caliber players and you can't redo

1903
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 3: the whole entire roster.

1904
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 1: And in a season like this, they've played hard throughout,

1905
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 1: and I respect that it's hard for me.

1906
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 6: I also don't agree with that, but I'm not going

1907
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 6: to argue with you.

1908
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 7: Because I've only got three on offense, Andrews, Douglas and Stevenson,

1909
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 7: and defensively I had gotcha bar More, Judohn Bentley to

1910
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 7: buy Jay Jones Peppers and consent.

1911
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 1: Oh, Jonathan Jones was on my list as well, was it.

1912
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 7: I'd like to say key on White, but I haven't

1913
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 7: really like that's more of like a wishful thing than

1914
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 7: an actual substantive kind of performance. I think he could

1915
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 7: get there, but that's really it for me. The three

1916
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 7: guys on office.

1917
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:03,560
Speaker 6: I get what you guys are saying, and I'm not

1918
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:05,639
Speaker 6: going to turn it into a semantic argument. I get

1919
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 6: I get the point you guys are right. I would

1920
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 6: I would know, like I'm saying. I'm not going to

1921
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 6: say like foundational piece, yeah, but we could get bogged

1922
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 6: down in semantics. I just think I just think it

1923
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:19,600
Speaker 6: speaks to the state of the roster. Those half of

1924
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 6: those guys are pending free agents. Most of them won't

1925
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,640
Speaker 6: be back. Yeah, like not necessarily you.

1926
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 1: Alone, other than far More in Gonzales, I think they

1927
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 1: they constitute a solid middle class.

1928
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 3: And I would get yourself prepared for Judah not being

1929
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 3: back next too. Well, it depends on who's in charge.

1930
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 3: If you have somebody that that prioritizes star power, then

1931
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 3: I think he will be back. But if it's built

1932
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:44,680
Speaker 3: then no. Yeah, and well, and the other part of

1933
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:46,720
Speaker 3: this is we'll go back to your information.

1934
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 1: Like God show us played pretty well too.

1935
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know I would.

1936
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 6: I would like, but can we get a guy that

1937
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 6: makes like, you know, a tenth of that and then

1938
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 6: spend that money on T Higgins? What do you care

1939
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 6: about money plow because I want to spend it on

1940
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:00,680
Speaker 6: T Higgins. That's why the answer.

1941
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 1: Before you that shouldn't stop you from doing that, But it.

1942
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 6: Will, Well it shouldn't, but it will. It doesn't. It

1943
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 6: did the same thing to Kansas City.

1944
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 7: I would have that Conressa.

1945
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:10,639
Speaker 6: They had no reason not to. They have no reason

1946
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 6: to have Sky Moore and Marquez Valdez scantling in Justin

1947
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 6: Watson as their receiving cores right now. But they but

1948
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 6: that's what they have because they didn't spend the money

1949
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:23,760
Speaker 6: for me. That's what I worry abou about.

1950
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:26,680
Speaker 7: T Higgins comes down to when you Dugger ouch like

1951
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,599
Speaker 7: it's I mean, you know, Gotsha's already here, He's extended

1952
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 7: like that's you know, but that's the Congress, that's big money.

1953
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 6: Would you rather sign but to stuff to run? In

1954
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 6: the immortal words of Evan Lazar, it's not two thousand.

1955
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:41,680
Speaker 7: And three, but he's a centerpiece. I mean, I I

1956
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:43,640
Speaker 7: just think, like when you like so, you know what

1957
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 7: I mean to do him?

1958
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 4: Like God, I'd pick Mic and t Higgins.

1959
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 5: Okay, like resigned big Mic and then use the rest

1960
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:54,640
Speaker 5: of that money. I do like Dougger, and I do

1961
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:56,600
Speaker 5: like OJ, but not more than T.

1962
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 3: Higgins. I would. I would make sure you keep Dougger.

1963
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 7: Also, I think hard Dugger at probably his best game.

1964
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 3: Dougger would be my first week, what this week was,

1965
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 3: I think, So, I think Dougger's had a pretty solid

1966
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 3: year on them.

1967
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 6: I think Douger is really good. I would, I would

1968
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 6: keep him. And again this goes back to your like,

1969
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 6: at some point you have to establish a nucleus of

1970
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 6: players that you want to draft, develop and keep that right,

1971
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 6: So I think Dugger is one of those guys. If

1972
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 6: you want you to be one of those guys, too, fine.

1973
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 1: Well, Robin the catskills. The reason that this kind of

1974
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 1: little light bulb over my head is he's talking about

1975
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 1: the same thing he said that the Dolphins of Brown

1976
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 1: just signed key players to reasonable deals. Austin and del Pitt,

1977
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 1: Can we not walk and chew bubble gum anymore? Why

1978
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 1: haven't we already resigned on when you and Douggar? Yeah,

1979
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 1: I think I think it's got more to do with

1980
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 1: Robert Kraft telling Bill Belichick only focus on twenty twenty

1981
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 1: three with you and don't touch anything in the future.

1982
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 6: So let's just say, for arguments sake that the new

1983
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 6: that a new coach comes in and Evan will give

1984
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 6: you the traits. But some guy comes in and he

1985
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:04,600
Speaker 6: wants a whole different kind of offensive lineman than a

1986
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 6: three hundred and forty pound guard.

1987
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 3: I need a different guy. I need, not him, but

1988
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 3: stranger I need.

1989
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 6: I need a whole different body type at guard. Well,

1990
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 6: Bill just gave him a five year, sixty five million

1991
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:17,559
Speaker 6: dollar extension, right, Well.

1992
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 7: The same thing with if you resigned Douggar and you

1993
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 7: come into camp next year and you have a new

1994
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:22,640
Speaker 7: defensive CORNERA said, I don't need six, I don't need

1995
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 7: I need one.

1996
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:26,599
Speaker 3: And now you're saying I agree with that's the reason

1997
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 3: why you haven't seen.

1998
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 1: Otherwise they would have been I would jump, I would.

1999
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 6: I didn't say they would be resigned.

2000
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 1: Oh I think so, I think Bill.

2001
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 6: If they've never done that, they've never resigned a guy

2002
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,719
Speaker 6: in the last five or six weeks of a season,

2003
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 6: it would have been done early.

2004
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 3: It would have been done over the summer.

2005
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've done early.

2006
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 6: Who's the last guy that did that?

2007
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 1: They did a shak Mason. They did it with James Sanders,

2008
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 1: they did it with Tully Banter.

2009
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 10: Two thousand and five.

2010
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 1: I don't but they've done.

2011
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 3: That's what I said. When was the last time we

2012
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 3: got one? I gave you another one. Jonathan Jones did it.

2013
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 3: Jonathan Jones was a free agent and he re signed. No, no, no, no,

2014
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 3: Johnny the first time, the first time with Jonathan Jones.

2015
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:10,679
Speaker 6: Okay, so again, you're going back six years. He's still

2016
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 6: in the ruck five years. Yeah, So like to me,

2017
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 6: wasn't he just a free agent?

2018
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 7: Yes, he was a free agent and he resigned, but

2019
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:20,560
Speaker 7: he signed three extensions.

2020
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 6: But the first recent yeah, not the same. The first

2021
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 6: one is not the same. It's not going to be

2022
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 6: Dugger money.

2023
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 7: I'd skip, I'd go to Barmore, I'd extend Barmore. This

2024
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 7: of like, I would get get out of the cycle

2025
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 7: of letting guys I haven't done this a lot. Get

2026
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 7: get ahead of the curve.

2027
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 3: They used to do it all the time.

2028
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 7: I mean, just I mean I even would pitch Extendibral

2029
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 7: Peppers instead of signing Dugger.

2030
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 1: He's another guy who's played well. So now we're up

2031
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 1: to twelve for me.

2032
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 3: Just keep free Shore, so soon we're gonna be up

2033
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 3: to fifty three.

2034
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 6: Just out of argument, how many guys from a three

2035
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 6: and ten team do you want back?

2036
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but people think that this team doesn't

2037
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 1: have talent.

2038
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 6: It doesn't. That's why they are three inten I think.

2039
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 1: These guys have You need to add to that. But

2040
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:03,720
Speaker 1: I think these are good middle class guys and they

2041
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 1: you know, I.

2042
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 3: Kind of agree with this point in that, like, if

2043
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 3: this team had the if this team had the quarterback

2044
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 3: and they had like and these Anthony Jennings would be

2045
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 3: a functional edge set the quarterback. I agree, Like, so

2046
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 3: I want I want to get I want to get

2047
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 3: that far. I want to go back to get They would.

2048
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 5: Wait no, I like what Paul just emphasized. It can't

2049
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:28,679
Speaker 5: be a quarterback. It needs to be the quarterback.

2050
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 6: And okay, let's quarter Let's let's talk about your red

2051
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:36,799
Speaker 6: center for a second, because I think this is interesting,

2052
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 6: Like it's a totally different kind of player. Anthony Jennings

2053
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 6: has done his job better than Matthew Judon did the

2054
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 6: job that Jennings is doing in terms of stopping the run, yes,

2055
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 6: being an edge ctter and being physical at the I

2056
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 6: think that the jump and run defense, that's not a coincidence.

2057
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 6: I think he's better at that than Judon was. Now

2058
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 6: you've obviously lost pass rushing prowess. Jennings is not a

2059
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 6: guy who's going to get you double digit sacks. So

2060
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 6: you could make an argument there like, all right, well, Judon,

2061
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 6: you know he's thirty something high, you know, big money.

2062
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:15,639
Speaker 6: He's not coming back for what he's on the books

2063
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 6: for next year. He ain't playing for that, So you

2064
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 6: have to decide do I want to extend. That's why

2065
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 6: I said, don't be surprised if he's not part of

2066
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 6: the team.

2067
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:22,720
Speaker 10: Last year.

2068
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 6: It's Stefan Gilmour two point zero. Yeah, you gave him

2069
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 6: a little money off of next year's contract to satisfy

2070
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 6: him for this year. He's gonna want that back next

2071
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 6: year if he's coming back.

2072
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:34,840
Speaker 3: And I would be okay with with them moving on

2073
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 3: from Judon because of all the reasons that you just

2074
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 3: laid out, his age also being another one. But I

2075
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,560
Speaker 3: don't see on the roster right now that they have

2076
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 3: a guy that can replace.

2077
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 6: Him, and I would agree. I would give him money

2078
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 6: because I think there's now here's where I'm going to

2079
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 6: go all fred. His value would having the Bobby Hamilton types,

2080
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:55,639
Speaker 6: not the same kind of player. But you know, okay,

2081
01:28:55,800 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 6: maybe Judon's not that like Studs.

2082
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 3: Rusher, that's t J. Watt, but he's still pretty good.

2083
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:08,560
Speaker 6: He gives you as as Evan said earlier, for a

2084
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:11,640
Speaker 6: new coach maybe wants like a star power kind of guy,

2085
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 6: a Pro Bowl caliber player. I would give him money.

2086
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 1: I would.

2087
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 6: I would not do what they did with Gilmore. I

2088
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:18,639
Speaker 6: would give them a little bit more money.

2089
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 7: And now, maybe if you feel comfortable keeping Jennings and

2090
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 7: allowing to pull back on jude On and not forcing

2091
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 7: jude On to play every snap and manage his snaps

2092
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:25,920
Speaker 7: a little bit more, as you.

2093
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 1: Figure out a way to get them both on the

2094
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 1: field at the same time.

2095
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 6: But if if you's point, but if jude On goes

2096
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 6: I think, I mean Evan was kind of getting that that.

2097
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 7: I mean, you just you have a huge concern about

2098
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 7: pass rushing and then it's like.

2099
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 3: All right because already, well, right now, they already really

2100
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 3: can't rush the pass. Yeah, they don't really get quarterbacks

2101
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 3: unless they blitz. And that it's fine for the most

2102
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 3: part if you when you have a defensive coordinary, rather

2103
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 3: want to give build a credit or out of the

2104
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:53,680
Speaker 3: credit whoever that can dial it up a little bit.

2105
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 3: They have gotten pressure some ways with that. But just

2106
01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:58,639
Speaker 3: in terms of like a guy that can just plane

2107
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 3: win one on one, I don't really have that right now.

2108
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 3: And it's not ke On White.

2109
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 6: And you notice the guys who they're getting pressure on too,

2110
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 6: it's Tommy DeVito. It's bitch trubisky. Like they didn't get

2111
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 6: anywhere near mit Herbert, right.

2112
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 7: I thought you said something.

2113
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

2114
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 3: I heard the other one, Mitchell. I mean, that's also

2115
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 3: fair to call him that too.

2116
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:20,639
Speaker 4: He goes by, Mitch.

2117
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 7: I just want to make on this thing though, like

2118
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 7: I got three guys on offense that I like three

2119
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 7: guys and one's a slot receiver. Andrews might retire.

2120
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,600
Speaker 6: You know, you got your fourth running back during the

2121
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,479
Speaker 6: last year of his deal, and that's your problems a center.

2122
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 3: The one guy I would maybe add to that who

2123
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 3: was a free is Hunter Henry. Yeah, I would be

2124
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:41,640
Speaker 3: interested in bringing.

2125
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 1: Back, but with nothing I think I can replace.

2126
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 3: I can replace, you can do with that.

2127
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 1: I don't.

2128
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 3: I don't think that that's true because, like you look

2129
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:53,320
Speaker 3: at the way that you draft titands like, can we

2130
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 3: just keep Beryl Brown? I think that, I mean, is

2131
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 3: a better player than Barrel Brown. It just you can't.

2132
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 3: The draft is a crapshoot at tight end, Like it's

2133
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 3: really difficult to get we are one production out of

2134
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:08,560
Speaker 3: that position. So if you don't have any sort of

2135
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 3: veteran there, like a Hunter Henry to just keep the

2136
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:13,600
Speaker 3: seat warm, at least, you're really banking a lot of

2137
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 3: another one on yours.

2138
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 6: Depending on the coach.

2139
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:17,719
Speaker 7: Who is twenty ten would they bring in with Gronk

2140
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 7: and Hernandez when they drafted them the VET they had

2141
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 7: the veteran tight end there at the algae.

2142
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 6: Crump that poor guy could not even get out of

2143
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:27,800
Speaker 6: his seat he was so banged up. Oh my god,

2144
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 6: watching him after a game was pain.

2145
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:32,800
Speaker 1: Is he the guy that every time he got up

2146
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 1: it was like he was like putting himself back together.

2147
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:38,920
Speaker 6: No, Yeah, that guy. He was good. He was a

2148
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 6: good pro. He was just he was a pro. But

2149
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 6: like to Evan's point about the tight end, I think

2150
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 6: there are guys that you can find in the draft

2151
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 6: like Green Bays. You know, like you're gonna they're gonna

2152
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 6: catch the ball and make some flash plays. Sam la Porter,

2153
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:56,960
Speaker 6: you know gat year, he's like phenomen that's like this, yeah,

2154
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:01,640
Speaker 6: phenomenal season. But I don't necessarily think Bill would be

2155
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 6: gravitating toward those kinds of guys because they he's like

2156
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 6: you've heard you've heard him even talked about the sicky

2157
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:07,680
Speaker 6: like that.

2158
01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:09,679
Speaker 1: Well, I think we have to look at next year

2159
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 1: without the lens of Bill picking them.

2160
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying.

2161
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:15,840
Speaker 3: You don't know coach to pick him.

2162
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 6: If you have a coach that has one of these

2163
01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:22,760
Speaker 6: sort of new fangled Sean McVay or Shannon An offenses,

2164
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 6: then yeah, I would say, fine, let hunt because hunter

2165
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:27,599
Speaker 6: and is going to cost you money.

2166
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would just say that they have to have

2167
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 3: somebody that is an NFL caliber tight end at that spot,

2168
01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:35,720
Speaker 3: and I just don't know if you can count on

2169
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 3: that being a draft pick. And I would also say

2170
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:40,440
Speaker 3: that now you're adding another need, like you're just creating.

2171
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 6: Another And I'd be stunned if he wants anything. No, no,

2172
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:47,720
Speaker 6: he isn't unless unless they unless they give him a

2173
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 6: good contract. I don't see him.

2174
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:53,080
Speaker 3: What if they franchise tagh it's really expensive, it's but

2175
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 3: it's not as expensive as other positions.

2176
01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:58,080
Speaker 6: But it's one hundred and twenty percent of his salary

2177
01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:02,080
Speaker 6: because it's over the franchise tag, I would just.

2178
01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:05,719
Speaker 3: I would entertain franchise tagging him because it's a bridge.

2179
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 3: Right one year, I get it, you draft a guy

2180
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 3: in the middle round.

2181
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Speaker 1: You know me.

2182
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 6: I'm not about the money as long as it doesn't

2183
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:12,759
Speaker 6: prevent you from spending it elsewhere.

2184
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 1: I'm all for.

2185
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 3: I don't know what my money is exactly now, but

2186
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:18,680
Speaker 3: tight end is one of the lowest tag numbers out

2187
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 3: of all the position groups. Like it's like safety, tight end,

2188
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 3: off ball, linebacker like those.

2189
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:27,120
Speaker 6: I'm not like, I don't have the number, but I

2190
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 6: believe that because his salary is high right now, he

2191
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 6: would be do one hundred and twenty percent of that,

2192
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 6: not the his salary would exceed thatranchise.

2193
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:41,640
Speaker 1: Because his salary is harder than the top average of

2194
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 1: the top five, correct, right, So.

2195
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 6: He would be due if you wanted a franchise, and

2196
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 6: I think it's one hundred and twenty percent, Miguel would

2197
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 6: have that exact number. I'm sure, right.

2198
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 3: So this year the tag on the tight ends was

2199
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:54,800
Speaker 3: eleven point three million. That will obviously go up a

2200
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:57,560
Speaker 3: little bit next year, but it's all inflation relative. So

2201
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 3: you're there, you're talking tight ends, it's running backs. Is

2202
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 3: the cheapest tight end safety and actual teams is obviously

2203
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:06,880
Speaker 3: the cheapest, And.

2204
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 6: I don't care about money, so I would do it. Yeah,

2205
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:12,679
Speaker 6: But I'm just I just wanted to throw that stipulation.

2206
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:15,080
Speaker 1: Maybe Hunter Henry would defer it until.

2207
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:20,880
Speaker 7: Four Yeah, I think can you do that? That's reviewing.

2208
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 6: I think it's more dramatic. I think if there's a

2209
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 6: million guys in that league that do that. But I

2210
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:28,240
Speaker 6: think he's but he is still getting his very d years.

2211
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:29,800
Speaker 6: I think is still getting paid.

2212
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 1: Definitely creating an annuity for yourself.

2213
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, but his is really dramatic. Two million a year

2214
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 6: for ten years and then like an emergence.

2215
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 7: But I heard on top of that two million year

2216
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:43,479
Speaker 7: is not going to do well, probably endorsement emergency.

2217
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:44,680
Speaker 4: His endorsements are making up.

2218
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 1: I heard he's making fifty million a year in endorsement,

2219
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:50,720
Speaker 1: where it's really like a guy like Bryce Harper makes

2220
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:52,439
Speaker 1: four or five million a year, and it's.

2221
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 7: Well, he's probably global, and it's.

2222
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, global.

2223
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 6: It's funny because I've never really seen show in an

2224
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:02,800
Speaker 6: but it's probably all international stuff.

2225
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:05,639
Speaker 7: Like when you see like those like United States athletes

2226
01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 7: that do like Japanese ads and stuff, it always looks

2227
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 7: really weird, but it's probably totally fine with Tom.

2228
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:15,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, back to the phone's ticket houtline. Mildred

2229
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:17,439
Speaker 1: in North Carolina. What's up, Beldrid?

2230
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:25,120
Speaker 10: There it is, Hey lady, all right, lady, Hey Mike,

2231
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 10: Hey what there you go? Just again? Yeah?

2232
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:34,640
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's one game with one game with all

2233
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 3: just keep it run air thing back.

2234
01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sorry. He's the greatest head coach of all time.

2235
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:40,240
Speaker 7: I'm not just gonna fire him for one bad season. Okay,

2236
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:41,960
Speaker 7: greatest head of coach of all time? Who are you

2237
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:43,920
Speaker 7: gonna hire? What are you gonna go get some offensive

2238
01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:45,639
Speaker 7: coordinator who's never won a game in their life.

2239
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 1: No, thank you.

2240
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:48,759
Speaker 7: I'm gonna stick with Bill Belichick. There's so much parody

2241
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 7: in the league this year. We're so close, Eldred. We're

2242
01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:53,360
Speaker 7: gonna take them one more year. Seventy one years old,

2243
01:35:53,439 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 7: seventy two, let's go.

2244
01:35:56,200 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 3: You made I don't know how you can come back

2245
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 3: from that. Aldred stayed out Ron, but.

2246
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 11: It wasn't mex Bo him and Max and and and

2247
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:17,519
Speaker 11: the laugh for you.

2248
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:19,760
Speaker 10: Come on, you gotta I gotta do it over again.

2249
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:22,800
Speaker 10: You got what? That's all I gotta say.

2250
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:25,640
Speaker 1: Ye have all right? Thanks? Aldred? Uh Let's go to

2251
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:29,439
Speaker 1: Long Island. Mike's there, Hey, Mike, Mike.

2252
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 7: Uh So, this is like the.

2253
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 17: First time I've called in on this post. I called

2254
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:39,559
Speaker 17: in like years ago, and I lived out last whatever

2255
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 17: who cares?

2256
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:40,280
Speaker 5: Right?

2257
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 17: So hypothetically, right, we got the first or second pick

2258
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 17: in the draft. Yes, if they're up for it, would

2259
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 17: you trade that to Justin Herbert for Justin Herbert because

2260
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:53,599
Speaker 17: I'm sure Staley's out whoever's doing there they want to start?

2261
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:54,880
Speaker 6: Yes, I would do that.

2262
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 3: Chargers trade Justin Herbert. They are on crack.

2263
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:01,560
Speaker 6: I would trade the first one second overall pick for

2264
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:05,960
Speaker 6: Justin Herbert in a blink. Yeah that I'm hoping that

2265
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:07,720
Speaker 6: the guy I take at one or two is as

2266
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:08,759
Speaker 6: good as Justin Herbert.

2267
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:13,360
Speaker 3: Right, that's crap, shoot yep, right, So why would the

2268
01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 3: Chargers do that? Well details, I'm just saying. I'm just

2269
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:24,280
Speaker 3: trying to keep it real, like I you know, if

2270
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 3: the Chargers trade Justin Herbert instead of getting Justin Herbert

2271
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:29,200
Speaker 3: a coach that knows what he's doing, and then that

2272
01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:31,640
Speaker 3: organization is just toast like they're just never going to

2273
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:32,080
Speaker 3: be good.

2274
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 17: They.

2275
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:36,960
Speaker 3: Then then they don't know what they're doing.

2276
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 4: Cool, all right, thanks, thanks for I would love to

2277
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:43,519
Speaker 4: have he.

2278
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:46,479
Speaker 6: Do.

2279
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:47,400
Speaker 3: Other people call him that.

2280
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:52,680
Speaker 6: We brought it into the pregame show too.

2281
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:55,599
Speaker 7: He's superbo.

2282
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:59,360
Speaker 5: Oh my god, J Herbo suple not long if for

2283
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:01,640
Speaker 5: some reason and they did do that, like want to

2284
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 5: trade him, and then the Patriots didn't have the second

2285
01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:07,160
Speaker 5: pick and they were able to get Marvin Harrison if

2286
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 5: he decides to go into the draft and not go

2287
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:10,519
Speaker 5: back and try to beat Michigan.

2288
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 4: If you got him and then J Herbert, that'd be wild.

2289
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:17,120
Speaker 3: Wild by How would they get Marvin Harrison junior just

2290
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 3: because someone listen. Maybe they're just having a fire, said

2291
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:24,920
Speaker 3: Patriot for the second round. Patriots second round, Get Justin

2292
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:29,360
Speaker 3: Herbert for a second round. Picking up the questions the

2293
01:38:29,479 --> 01:38:32,920
Speaker 3: Chargers should have to dissolve as a franchise, would the Crafts?

2294
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:35,680
Speaker 6: Would the Crafts be willing to pay Justin Herbert just

2295
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 6: signed that big extension a lot of money.

2296
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:41,800
Speaker 3: Well, Patriots dot Com Evan Lazarre says that Drake May

2297
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:47,240
Speaker 3: is just like Justin Herbert the rookie contract contract boo,

2298
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:48,639
Speaker 3: I never boo.

2299
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 1: What's the ground swell for Daniels now that he's Trophy?

2300
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I read a little bit about that

2301
01:38:57,800 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 3: Daniels the other day because I think that a lot

2302
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:02,840
Speaker 3: of Patriots fans that I'm not taking shots at you, guys.

2303
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you how I feel. I think it's

2304
01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:07,680
Speaker 3: a two quarterback class. It's Caleb Williams or Drake May,

2305
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:09,839
Speaker 3: and I think it's going to be a four quarterback

2306
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:11,920
Speaker 3: class before this is all said and done. I think

2307
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 3: Pennix and Jayden Daniels are going to be first round

2308
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 3: conversation for sure, especially if Penix play as well in

2309
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 3: the College Football Playoff. Like I understand he's got injury history,

2310
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:22,120
Speaker 3: but I don't know what else Pennixy's to do to

2311
01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 3: be considered a first round prospect. I mean, the guy's

2312
01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 3: film is unbelievable. And Daniels is I think kind of

2313
01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:33,040
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson Ish you know, has very similar traits and

2314
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 3: has now has a Heisman Trophy just like Lamar does.

2315
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 3: So another guy that I think, you know, Lamar went

2316
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 3: thirty second overall. It was probably a little bit too

2317
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 3: far ahead of his time, Like if you fast forward

2318
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 3: that five years, he's not going to the thirty second overall.

2319
01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:52,360
Speaker 3: And I think that's what's gonna end up happening with Jayden, Daniels.

2320
01:39:52,360 --> 01:39:55,120
Speaker 1: Joe and Ontario. After watching Zappi run the offense for

2321
01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:57,639
Speaker 1: two weeks, I found myself thinking that he looked much

2322
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:00,200
Speaker 1: more comfortable in the pocket and had a a lot

2323
01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 1: more zip on the ball than Mac. The offense looked

2324
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:05,599
Speaker 1: better with Zapi running it, However, it still looked really bad.

2325
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:08,479
Speaker 1: How did it come to this? If things look great

2326
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:11,040
Speaker 1: or even good with Zapy, I would be fine saying

2327
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:13,679
Speaker 1: the coaching, offensive line, skilled players, et cetera are fine

2328
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:16,800
Speaker 1: and Mac was the problem all along. Or if things

2329
01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:19,000
Speaker 1: looked even worse with Zapi than it did with Mac.

2330
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 1: I would think that maybe Mac isn't that bad, and

2331
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:25,400
Speaker 1: the problem is coaching O line skilled players. The fact

2332
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 1: that it looks just a little bit better with Zapi

2333
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:31,360
Speaker 1: but still looks bad leaves me thinking that Mac is terrible,

2334
01:40:31,439 --> 01:40:34,160
Speaker 1: the coaching is terrible, and the overall talent on our

2335
01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 1: offense is terrible. How is it possible that none of

2336
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 1: the coaching changes, free agency pickups, or draft choices over

2337
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:44,600
Speaker 1: the past three years have helped this team improve offensively?

2338
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 1: It seems we didn't even have the beginning of an

2339
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 1: offense to start building on for next season. Am I wrong?

2340
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 1: Or you just kind of talked about that.

2341
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:56,639
Speaker 3: About a guard well in the first round?

2342
01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:58,599
Speaker 1: Guard you think is getting better Evan?

2343
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:01,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I have to like he's for a guard,

2344
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 3: he's getting better. But yeah, I don't know what it matters,

2345
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:08,000
Speaker 3: but yeah, his film the last couple of weeks has

2346
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:10,559
Speaker 3: definitely been better. I think most of his mistakes now

2347
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:13,920
Speaker 3: are more mental than physical. And I was worried that

2348
01:41:13,960 --> 01:41:17,400
Speaker 3: he couldn't play in the league like starting last year.

2349
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:19,760
Speaker 3: Now I think that he looks, you know, like he's

2350
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:23,639
Speaker 3: got the play strength to play in an NFL offense.

2351
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:25,680
Speaker 3: But you know he's just trying to figure out the

2352
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:27,840
Speaker 3: line movement and the blitzes and things like that. But

2353
01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:29,040
Speaker 3: he has gotten better.

2354
01:41:29,160 --> 01:41:29,680
Speaker 7: He's getting it.

2355
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:34,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, the offense, I'm going to defend Zappi a little bit.

2356
01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:39,960
Speaker 6: I agree it hasn't looked It hasn't looked great with Zappi,

2357
01:41:40,040 --> 01:41:43,519
Speaker 6: But I will say he was dealing with a group

2358
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:46,680
Speaker 6: that Mac never had to deal with. On Thursday night.

2359
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 6: He had no Parker, he had no Stevenson, he had

2360
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:54,640
Speaker 6: no born like Douglas. You know that Mac didn't have

2361
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:54,960
Speaker 6: a game.

2362
01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:58,560
Speaker 1: Conor McDermot at left tackle for the most part. Right, No,

2363
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:03,360
Speaker 1: Trent Trent played, not the whole game.

2364
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:05,360
Speaker 6: No, but that's what they've been doing by design.

2365
01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:08,360
Speaker 1: They brought Trent. They didn't bring Trent Brown into like

2366
01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:11,559
Speaker 1: the second half. Right, No, they both played, did they? Okay?

2367
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:16,280
Speaker 6: But my point is the skill guys are we can

2368
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:20,920
Speaker 6: all agree lacking. You took half of those skilled guys

2369
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 6: out of the lineup in this game. I don't think

2370
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:26,880
Speaker 6: Mac has had many games where he hasn't had First

2371
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:28,640
Speaker 6: of all, he had no games. They didn't have Stevenson,

2372
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:32,120
Speaker 6: and that's the number one weapon that they have. He

2373
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 6: didn't play the first month of the season without Born,

2374
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 6: you know. I mean, I could say Douglas wasn't really

2375
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:42,000
Speaker 6: a huge part, you know, early in the season because

2376
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:45,040
Speaker 6: he wasn't ready yet and all that. But I think

2377
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:48,759
Speaker 6: Zappi's performance, given what he had, was probably more impressive

2378
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 6: than anything.

2379
01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:53,160
Speaker 1: We kind of we've kind of overlooked Zeke in this game.

2380
01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:55,599
Speaker 1: I mean, he was instrumental in in this game.

2381
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:59,479
Speaker 6: Tackle right, yeah, I mean just really got to give

2382
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:01,960
Speaker 6: it up from the tackle. But like you know, they

2383
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:04,599
Speaker 6: caught making a tackle on a change of possession.

2384
01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:08,200
Speaker 3: They kept on, they kept on blitzing off the ball

2385
01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:10,840
Speaker 3: and then dropping the edges and they caught t J.

2386
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:13,559
Speaker 3: Watt and Highsmith and coverage a couple of times.

2387
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:16,320
Speaker 1: I was just like, what, by the way, is there

2388
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 1: any doubt that t J. Watt played that whole game

2389
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:19,080
Speaker 1: with a concussion.

2390
01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:22,560
Speaker 3: It's another factor in the game. But you know, like

2391
01:43:22,720 --> 01:43:25,120
Speaker 3: he was a show. I know, he still was wrecking the.

2392
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:28,640
Speaker 1: Running game, but he took a vicious hit to the

2393
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 1: head with Trent.

2394
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:35,600
Speaker 6: Brown sixty sixty in Trent sixty Trent forty for McDermott.

2395
01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:38,400
Speaker 1: You know, like there's no there's no doubt he had

2396
01:43:38,439 --> 01:43:41,000
Speaker 1: a concussion and he was just playing out. I would agree,

2397
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:43,200
Speaker 1: you know, pure instinct, I would agree that.

2398
01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:46,640
Speaker 6: Was probably supposedly he was evaluated. So you wonder what

2399
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:48,120
Speaker 6: the evaluation is all about there.

2400
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:51,840
Speaker 3: But and they put on a dark visor, right, Mike

2401
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 3: and Mike, Mike and I going, I wonder what that's

2402
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:54,680
Speaker 3: for you?

2403
01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:56,599
Speaker 7: To play the rest of the game in a dark run,

2404
01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:57,240
Speaker 7: and he's.

2405
01:43:57,120 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 3: Still every time they pulled to his side, he was

2406
01:43:59,000 --> 01:43:59,360
Speaker 3: still ten.

2407
01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:01,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, hey at the end of the third quarter, just

2408
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:03,400
Speaker 6: this week, can you be a doll and not play

2409
01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:06,320
Speaker 6: renegade the loud noises? Really, if there's anyone that bothered

2410
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:06,880
Speaker 6: my head.

2411
01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:08,760
Speaker 1: That could you know, pass a concussion test when he

2412
01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:10,439
Speaker 1: has a concussion, that's a guy like teaching.

2413
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 7: Also, that's why they do baseline taste.

2414
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:16,040
Speaker 3: Let's just you know, play you know, long trap tackle,

2415
01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 3: pull to DJ wattside. Come back to me Bill O'Brien, like,

2416
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 3: what what are we what are we pulling to TJ

2417
01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:23,559
Speaker 3: watts side? For it the run game play.

2418
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:26,920
Speaker 1: But I would say that Bill O'Brien had a good game.

2419
01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:28,200
Speaker 3: In the passing game, shure.

2420
01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:30,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, he had a good start to the game. I mean,

2421
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:33,680
Speaker 6: they had eighty four yards and three first downs in

2422
01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:34,360
Speaker 6: the second half.

2423
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 1: Well they took them, you know, pedal off the metal.

2424
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:41,880
Speaker 3: No, they went back to calling bad plays.

2425
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:47,800
Speaker 1: Well, they went conservative, Fred, observative Fred.

2426
01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:50,840
Speaker 6: What they did didn't work.

2427
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:51,639
Speaker 10: I don't care.

2428
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:54,400
Speaker 1: Like, well, when you don't have talent, every every every

2429
01:44:54,720 --> 01:44:57,920
Speaker 1: coaching decision becomes a bad one. You know, if guys

2430
01:44:57,960 --> 01:44:58,920
Speaker 1: can't execute, you know.

2431
01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:01,439
Speaker 3: I think a big part of this game, honestly, was

2432
01:45:01,479 --> 01:45:03,799
Speaker 3: that Juju finally looked like the guy that they signed

2433
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:06,320
Speaker 3: in March. You Like, that was a huge part of

2434
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:08,600
Speaker 3: it too. And I've been clamoring like the throw that

2435
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:11,799
Speaker 3: Zappi made on the play action pass, just the crosser

2436
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:14,559
Speaker 3: over the middle of Juju cut up. Yeah, Like he's

2437
01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:17,439
Speaker 3: not He's not wide open by any means. He's pretty covered.

2438
01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 3: But like, Juju is a big, physical guy that can

2439
01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:22,519
Speaker 3: box out at the catchpoint and make some of those

2440
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:25,439
Speaker 3: tougher catches. And they just haven't had a quarterback that's

2441
01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:27,680
Speaker 3: had the confidence sit and rip it.

2442
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:29,840
Speaker 10: Throw.

2443
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:35,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, spian Fresno has the needle moved as to whether

2444
01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:38,559
Speaker 1: Zappi is your backup quarterback next year. Maybe a little,

2445
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:40,720
Speaker 1: but it seems like a big fat Maybe to me,

2446
01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:43,080
Speaker 1: he's three and one as a starter, but one in

2447
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:46,519
Speaker 1: three in his last four halves. Anyway, how concerned are

2448
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:48,720
Speaker 1: you about the Patriots winning their way out of a

2449
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:51,080
Speaker 1: top five pick, or even out of the top ten,

2450
01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:53,280
Speaker 1: as Paul would say, I'm scared.

2451
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:53,920
Speaker 10: A top ten.

2452
01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:56,040
Speaker 4: I'm not scared.

2453
01:45:56,200 --> 01:45:59,320
Speaker 3: I'm not even remotely even thinking about that as a possibility.

2454
01:45:59,560 --> 01:45:59,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2455
01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:02,280
Speaker 3: I also just feel like we operate with the draft

2456
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 3: under the the Bill prism of like we could never

2457
01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:09,280
Speaker 3: possibly trade up in a draft like that would never happen,

2458
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:12,960
Speaker 3: and so like fans are freaking out over being like

2459
01:46:13,120 --> 01:46:15,840
Speaker 3: two versus being five or something like that. It's like

2460
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:19,040
Speaker 3: any other normal organization would just trade up and draft

2461
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:21,559
Speaker 3: the quarterback. So I don't worry about it. But at

2462
01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:23,479
Speaker 3: the same time, I guess if it Mike gets his

2463
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:26,879
Speaker 3: wish and Bill's back, then they are gonna have to It's.

2464
01:46:26,720 --> 01:46:29,080
Speaker 7: Going to become a thing. Uh well, but everybody's saying

2465
01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:32,080
Speaker 7: I can make it like like like that that somebody's

2466
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:33,599
Speaker 7: going to trade up to one to get the quarterback.

2467
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 7: I mean, everybody's kind of talking about that.

2468
01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:35,360
Speaker 10: You know.

2469
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:39,000
Speaker 6: I think that's a huge I think that's a huge call.

2470
01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:41,519
Speaker 6: For Chicago, Like, first of all, do they stick with

2471
01:46:42,320 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 6: polls in ebra Flus? So, however you pronounce his name

2472
01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:49,559
Speaker 6: ebra Flus. If they stick with that, do they decide

2473
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:51,680
Speaker 6: to roll the dice and do the Giants thing with

2474
01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:56,800
Speaker 6: Justin Fields, who has played better lately, but still he's

2475
01:46:56,800 --> 01:46:59,280
Speaker 6: still got a terrible record. I just still turns the

2476
01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:02,080
Speaker 6: ball over when you put justin if you trade him.

2477
01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 3: I don't know, because but if you put Justin Fields

2478
01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:09,800
Speaker 3: in this draft class, I think that he's probably the

2479
01:47:09,880 --> 01:47:12,799
Speaker 3: second best quarterback in the class. Like just Justin Field's

2480
01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:16,080
Speaker 3: coming out of Ohio State versus the guys. Now, I'd

2481
01:47:16,120 --> 01:47:19,480
Speaker 3: still probably put Caleb ahead of him, But like, he's

2482
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:21,920
Speaker 3: a really talented I like him a lot.

2483
01:47:22,080 --> 01:47:24,760
Speaker 6: I think he is getting better, but I think he's

2484
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:27,040
Speaker 6: still You know what what is me most about him

2485
01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:29,400
Speaker 6: is how much he fumbles. I can't believe how many

2486
01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:32,000
Speaker 6: times he fumbles. And for a guy who runs as

2487
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:35,320
Speaker 6: much as he does, you can't fumble like that. I

2488
01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:36,960
Speaker 6: don't know, but might don't you talk into the mic.

2489
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:41,479
Speaker 4: So how much of his lack of success is his coaching?

2490
01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:43,600
Speaker 6: I think that's a big part of it.

2491
01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:46,439
Speaker 7: Maybe you just change the coaches keep the players try

2492
01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:46,760
Speaker 7: to get.

2493
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:51,360
Speaker 6: But how about so you because then you have DJ Morian,

2494
01:47:51,479 --> 01:47:54,799
Speaker 6: you trade so you trade down at one because you decide,

2495
01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 6: I'm gonna roll the dice. I'm gonna stick with Justin Field.

2496
01:47:57,240 --> 01:47:59,280
Speaker 6: You trade down at one. So let's say you get

2497
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:04,680
Speaker 6: I don't know, four, okay, plus whatever else you're going

2498
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:06,840
Speaker 6: to get for that you're not just swipping, you know,

2499
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:09,680
Speaker 6: switching spots from four to one. So let's say you

2500
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:13,240
Speaker 6: get four plus a first round pick maybe next year,

2501
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:15,320
Speaker 6: plus a second round pick this year that'll be at

2502
01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:18,680
Speaker 6: the top of the second round, you know whatever, just spitballing,

2503
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:21,720
Speaker 6: you get Marvin Harrison, and then your own pick is

2504
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:22,519
Speaker 6: going to be what eight?

2505
01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:25,920
Speaker 3: Yes, well they're five right now, They're five right now?

2506
01:48:26,120 --> 01:48:28,120
Speaker 6: Okay, So let's just say it's like, you know, somewhere

2507
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:32,519
Speaker 6: between five and ten, right, you know, I get a tackle,

2508
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:34,920
Speaker 6: so maybe the guy doesn't have to run for his

2509
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:39,360
Speaker 6: life all the time, prosper you know, there there were

2510
01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:40,560
Speaker 6: worse positions to be in.

2511
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:44,439
Speaker 3: I think Chicago's only argument from is resetting the clock

2512
01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:47,640
Speaker 3: on the on the rookie contract. But even because you're

2513
01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:49,800
Speaker 3: going into year four now at Justin Fields.

2514
01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:50,719
Speaker 6: Yea you're gonna get Daniel Jones.

2515
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:52,400
Speaker 3: You're going to have to pay him at some point,

2516
01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:55,200
Speaker 3: and he's probably going to be at least in the

2517
01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:58,240
Speaker 3: starting quarterback tier. He's not going to be fifty million

2518
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:00,479
Speaker 3: dollars a year, but he's probably to be in the

2519
01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:03,200
Speaker 3: twenty five to thirty million dollars a year range. And right,

2520
01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:05,280
Speaker 3: so that's the only argument.

2521
01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:08,280
Speaker 6: That's a guy you can franchise. Yeah, you know it's

2522
01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:12,880
Speaker 6: a lot, but you know, I want to give me

2523
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:15,840
Speaker 6: if he shows the the promise.

2524
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:17,639
Speaker 1: Joe and Warwick, New York. A message to the people

2525
01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 1: who are worried that winning a few games may mess

2526
01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:22,840
Speaker 1: up our position in the draft. Enjoy the games we win.

2527
01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:25,920
Speaker 1: If we drop a few spots in the draft, it

2528
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:28,840
Speaker 1: will just mean we'll trade down for two second round

2529
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:31,400
Speaker 1: picks in the future first compared to three second round

2530
01:49:31,439 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 1: picks in the future first round.

2531
01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:36,240
Speaker 6: I know he's making making in front of Bill Belichick,

2532
01:49:36,240 --> 01:49:38,400
Speaker 6: who probably will not be around to do that trade.

2533
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:42,000
Speaker 3: But if the Patriots have less Another concern, right, is

2534
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:43,920
Speaker 3: that if the Patriots have the second overall pick and

2535
01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:46,559
Speaker 3: Bill is the one picking, he's trading down all day,

2536
01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:49,439
Speaker 3: every single day, and he'll they'll make the argument that

2537
01:49:49,479 --> 01:49:53,679
Speaker 3: they now they have this, you know, whole war chest

2538
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:56,519
Speaker 3: of picks that mean nothing until you turn them into players,

2539
01:49:56,600 --> 01:50:00,759
Speaker 3: and they would definitely definitely be traded Shad in Atlanta.

2540
01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:03,800
Speaker 1: I honestly don't know what to think anymore. Is it

2541
01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 1: unrealistic at this point to hope for a top three pick?

2542
01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:10,759
Speaker 1: Since playing hard for the coach and players players feeling

2543
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:13,559
Speaker 1: good after a win seems more important than the future

2544
01:50:13,600 --> 01:50:16,240
Speaker 1: of this team. I'm sure that someone is going to

2545
01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:17,600
Speaker 1: chime in with what do you.

2546
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:18,400
Speaker 6: Expect them to do?

2547
01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:21,639
Speaker 1: And to that, I will just say, Bill, a genius,

2548
01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:24,000
Speaker 1: someone known for skirting the rules could find a way

2549
01:50:24,040 --> 01:50:25,760
Speaker 1: to keep them in the top three if you want it.

2550
01:50:26,600 --> 01:50:28,160
Speaker 6: But what, I don't know why people are so worried

2551
01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:29,360
Speaker 6: about falling out of the top three.

2552
01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:31,479
Speaker 3: But I also just like, what do you want them

2553
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:31,680
Speaker 3: to do?

2554
01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:32,599
Speaker 6: Like do you want?

2555
01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 10: Right?

2556
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:35,200
Speaker 6: But he wants them to clearly he wants them to

2557
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:39,639
Speaker 6: not try. But again like this is but I don't

2558
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:42,080
Speaker 6: I don't know why it doesn't behoove anybody on the

2559
01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:45,800
Speaker 6: roster that is currently on the team to not try.

2560
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:49,360
Speaker 6: They are playing for jobs in the NFL. Don't bring

2561
01:50:49,439 --> 01:50:50,240
Speaker 6: logic to the office.

2562
01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:53,000
Speaker 3: So like, whether it's for this year, or it's next year,

2563
01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:56,400
Speaker 3: or it's for free agency or whatever it is, they

2564
01:50:56,479 --> 01:50:59,040
Speaker 3: have to put good film out there so that other

2565
01:50:59,120 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 3: teams will employ.

2566
01:51:00,640 --> 01:51:03,720
Speaker 6: Way would you put their their performance on Thursday in

2567
01:51:03,760 --> 01:51:07,680
Speaker 6: Pittsburgh independent of the other team. Just tell me what

2568
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:11,720
Speaker 6: you think. Rate the Patriots performance in comparison to the

2569
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:17,040
Speaker 6: other twelve games. How would you say the Patriots played Thursday?

2570
01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:19,479
Speaker 7: I mean, like, rank it or I mean I don't.

2571
01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:21,120
Speaker 7: I just feel like things came together, they got a

2572
01:51:21,160 --> 01:51:22,880
Speaker 7: great You.

2573
01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:24,880
Speaker 6: Think that was a middling performance for the twenty twenty

2574
01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:27,280
Speaker 6: three Patriots. They've played seven games better than that.

2575
01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:30,559
Speaker 7: I would say, well, yeah, that's good.

2576
01:51:30,640 --> 01:51:32,400
Speaker 6: Okay, I think it's the second best game I saw

2577
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:33,040
Speaker 6: them play all year.

2578
01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 10: Behind.

2579
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:35,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say bills and then you got

2580
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:35,920
Speaker 4: to you got to.

2581
01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:37,720
Speaker 1: Take first half, but not second half.

2582
01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:39,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm just taking the game in balance.

2583
01:51:39,960 --> 01:51:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2584
01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:42,760
Speaker 6: I thought the defense, you know, came up with two

2585
01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 6: stops when only a field goal would have tied it.

2586
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:48,559
Speaker 6: They came up with two fourth down stops. I thought

2587
01:51:48,640 --> 01:51:50,880
Speaker 6: they put three touchdowns on the board in the first half,

2588
01:51:50,920 --> 01:51:53,960
Speaker 6: which they haven't really done three touchdowns in games very often.

2589
01:51:54,200 --> 01:51:55,880
Speaker 6: I thought it was the second best game they played

2590
01:51:55,880 --> 01:51:56,240
Speaker 6: all year.

2591
01:51:56,280 --> 01:51:56,840
Speaker 3: I think that's fair.

2592
01:51:56,960 --> 01:51:59,680
Speaker 6: The other team was asleep, to Fred's point, was a

2593
01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:04,000
Speaker 6: sleep and they won by three. And if the other

2594
01:52:04,040 --> 01:52:06,600
Speaker 6: team had a quarterback and could make a throw, not

2595
01:52:06,680 --> 01:52:09,160
Speaker 6: an easy throw, but a throw, you might not even

2596
01:52:09,200 --> 01:52:11,599
Speaker 6: have done that. On the last fourth down of the play,

2597
01:52:11,640 --> 01:52:13,840
Speaker 6: which by the way, was an asinine call with that

2598
01:52:14,040 --> 01:52:17,360
Speaker 6: quarterback asking him to throw deep to Deontay Johnson on

2599
01:52:17,479 --> 01:52:19,000
Speaker 6: that play was ridiculous.

2600
01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:20,280
Speaker 4: Wasn't that a fourth and two?

2601
01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:21,280
Speaker 3: Fourth and two?

2602
01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:25,040
Speaker 1: That's one of those like, oh boy, look at the

2603
01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:26,639
Speaker 1: you know, the I don't want to say it because

2604
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:27,400
Speaker 1: we're in mixed company.

2605
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 3: Look at the courage that they have to do that,

2606
01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:34,400
Speaker 3: you know, testicular fortitude. So I just looked at I

2607
01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:36,479
Speaker 3: don't design on that play was putrid.

2608
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:37,160
Speaker 17: It was.

2609
01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:37,880
Speaker 10: It was terrible.

2610
01:52:37,960 --> 01:52:39,040
Speaker 6: It was terrible in every way.

2611
01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:40,280
Speaker 3: But I just don't know why.

2612
01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:43,920
Speaker 6: I don't did everybody think they were going two and fifteen,

2613
01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:45,880
Speaker 6: because like, they won a game, and now everybody's like,

2614
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:48,000
Speaker 6: what happens if we fall out of the top ten.

2615
01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:50,080
Speaker 1: But at this time in this like, no, you didn't

2616
01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:52,120
Speaker 1: think overall, but at this time of the season. You

2617
01:52:52,200 --> 01:52:53,519
Speaker 1: could see you could.

2618
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:54,639
Speaker 3: I didn't.

2619
01:52:55,080 --> 01:52:55,880
Speaker 6: I didn't pick him to win.

2620
01:52:55,920 --> 01:53:02,720
Speaker 1: Thee fell apart, and they're not falling apart. Sergio and California.

2621
01:53:02,680 --> 01:53:05,360
Speaker 6: Coach is leaving a month before the season's over. It's close.

2622
01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:07,600
Speaker 3: We don't even talk about that.

2623
01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:13,879
Speaker 1: Serio and California rights in short sighted, irrelevant when without purpose,

2624
01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:18,559
Speaker 1: suicide for future draft for a franchise quarterback, absolutely short sighted.

2625
01:53:18,760 --> 01:53:22,759
Speaker 1: If they continue with this stupidity, many years of purgatory coming.

2626
01:53:23,160 --> 01:53:25,640
Speaker 3: Okay, let's I think there was a little tongue in cheek, right,

2627
01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:28,679
Speaker 3: Can we talk about that, the Ross Douglas thing, because

2628
01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:32,040
Speaker 3: I think that's way more interesting than that. The Ross

2629
01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:35,519
Speaker 3: Douglas thing is is interesting to me because it does

2630
01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:37,640
Speaker 3: feel a little titanicy, right, like we're just.

2631
01:53:37,720 --> 01:53:39,200
Speaker 7: I didn't remember that. I mean, you guys would know

2632
01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:40,760
Speaker 7: better than me. I don't remember a coach ever leave

2633
01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:42,240
Speaker 7: in the middle Patriots.

2634
01:53:42,680 --> 01:53:43,200
Speaker 1: Has he left?

2635
01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:44,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gone.

2636
01:53:45,320 --> 01:53:47,600
Speaker 5: But you said you've never heard of, you know, a

2637
01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:49,799
Speaker 5: coach doing that for the Patriots. Yeah, for the Patriots,

2638
01:53:49,800 --> 01:53:51,800
Speaker 5: there's been no need to be looking for a new job.

2639
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:52,519
Speaker 5: I mean he's getting it.

2640
01:53:52,680 --> 01:53:54,080
Speaker 6: Oh No, They've had a lot of guys that have

2641
01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:56,439
Speaker 6: gotten jobs during the season. They just of state, right,

2642
01:53:57,960 --> 01:53:59,720
Speaker 6: this is the first one that I've ever seen that

2643
01:53:59,800 --> 01:54:00,800
Speaker 6: guy a job and left.

2644
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:03,639
Speaker 5: Well, they got to start recruiting transfer portals open.

2645
01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:06,800
Speaker 4: He's got things to do. But I will say that

2646
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:08,839
Speaker 4: I would I wouldn't.

2647
01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:10,840
Speaker 5: I mean, I personally would not wait until the end

2648
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:13,280
Speaker 5: of the season, till Black Monday to find out I

2649
01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:14,160
Speaker 5: don't have a job anymore.

2650
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:18,000
Speaker 1: He could accept the job, he just doesn't leave until

2651
01:54:18,040 --> 01:54:18,360
Speaker 1: the season.

2652
01:54:19,400 --> 01:54:22,920
Speaker 3: He's a wide receiver coach.

2653
01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:25,759
Speaker 6: He's not the head coach. He's not in the portal.

2654
01:54:26,040 --> 01:54:27,519
Speaker 3: He's recruiting wide receivers.

2655
01:54:28,160 --> 01:54:30,720
Speaker 7: Do you think that that was met with the kind

2656
01:54:30,720 --> 01:54:32,160
Speaker 7: of pissed about that you think that I don't.

2657
01:54:32,320 --> 01:54:35,160
Speaker 6: I'm told no, I'm told they wish him well.

2658
01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:37,200
Speaker 3: I think they wish him well in terms of a

2659
01:54:37,280 --> 01:54:37,720
Speaker 3: great guy.

2660
01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:39,160
Speaker 7: I mean that's I mean, I don't.

2661
01:54:39,160 --> 01:54:40,120
Speaker 6: I never spoken to them.

2662
01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:42,879
Speaker 3: I don't know Troy Brown's so he spoke to Assistance

2663
01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:46,120
Speaker 3: before we started the show here too, he wasn't available,

2664
01:54:46,400 --> 01:54:49,720
Speaker 3: and well, yeah he's not here anymore. With Fred's question,

2665
01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:52,760
Speaker 3: Ross Douglas is usually available for with the Assistance, and

2666
01:54:52,840 --> 01:54:56,040
Speaker 3: he wasn't today for obvious reasons. Troy Brown did say

2667
01:54:56,120 --> 01:54:58,480
Speaker 3: that it was unexpected though, like he said that they

2668
01:54:58,480 --> 01:55:00,000
Speaker 3: were a little blindsided.

2669
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:01,960
Speaker 4: By To be fair, I would be looking for a.

2670
01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:04,959
Speaker 6: Job like Adrian Clint did the same thing in Pittsburgh.

2671
01:55:05,120 --> 01:55:08,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would be I would be looking.

2672
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:12,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I totally agree, Tomara, I would be looking.

2673
01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:14,960
Speaker 6: I'm not holding it against Ross Douglas professionally. I think

2674
01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:18,320
Speaker 6: he probably sees the writing on the wall and he

2675
01:55:18,440 --> 01:55:20,480
Speaker 6: wanted to get out in front of it. I'm just saying,

2676
01:55:20,920 --> 01:55:24,840
Speaker 6: I just want to hesitate with the whole, Like you know,

2677
01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:27,959
Speaker 6: Ezekiel Elliott, man, do you believe they threw an interception

2678
01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:30,560
Speaker 6: and he tried to tackle the guy who was returning it.

2679
01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:33,600
Speaker 6: I mean, like Ben Watson ran one hundred and twenty

2680
01:55:33,680 --> 01:55:35,480
Speaker 6: yards to chase down Chase champ Bay when.

2681
01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:37,120
Speaker 3: It was a touchdown, that was it. But but that

2682
01:55:37,320 --> 01:55:40,560
Speaker 3: was but it wasn't touch it was a touchback.

2683
01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:43,720
Speaker 6: Whatever the result of the play, that was a truly

2684
01:55:44,160 --> 01:55:47,640
Speaker 6: special individual effort on a play that deserves to be

2685
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:50,440
Speaker 6: talked about in reverence the way it has been for

2686
01:55:50,640 --> 01:55:55,280
Speaker 6: fifteen years. And Elliott was the last guy back, had

2687
01:55:55,320 --> 01:55:58,040
Speaker 6: the angle of pursuit and made a tackle, and my god,

2688
01:55:58,800 --> 01:55:59,680
Speaker 6: they're two and ten.

2689
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:01,920
Speaker 3: Do you believe he made that trackle.

2690
01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:06,760
Speaker 7: For any Was there any room for now at the time?

2691
01:56:07,720 --> 01:56:09,800
Speaker 5: Was there any room here for growth? I mean, was

2692
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:11,600
Speaker 5: he gonna be the co wide receivers coach.

2693
01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:13,720
Speaker 3: With Troy Brown? I think that's an interesting point too,

2694
01:56:13,760 --> 01:56:15,960
Speaker 3: because I saw a lot of people say that he's

2695
01:56:16,240 --> 01:56:18,800
Speaker 3: it's a lateral mover, even because he's going to college.

2696
01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:21,920
Speaker 6: He told it was not a lateral move in salary.

2697
01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:24,720
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't a lateral move in any way because

2698
01:56:24,760 --> 01:56:27,480
Speaker 3: he's going, first of all here he's the assistant wide

2699
01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:30,080
Speaker 3: receivers coach. So now he's gonna go run the room

2700
01:56:30,160 --> 01:56:32,400
Speaker 3: in Syracuse, and apparently he's also going to have some

2701
01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:34,160
Speaker 3: input on the direction of the lisse.

2702
01:56:34,600 --> 01:56:37,120
Speaker 1: These guys need a safety net. They're they're assuming that

2703
01:56:37,720 --> 01:56:39,640
Speaker 1: the whole place is going to get blown up at

2704
01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:41,520
Speaker 1: the end of the and I'm not going to have

2705
01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:43,480
Speaker 1: a job. So if I'm giving a place to go,

2706
01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:45,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it a bird in the hands.

2707
01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:48,760
Speaker 3: And the wider seiers have been particularly bad here, so

2708
01:56:48,880 --> 01:56:50,760
Speaker 3: you wonder if he's looking at it and saying, even

2709
01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:52,760
Speaker 3: if they keep bill like, is Troy gonna be here?

2710
01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:54,960
Speaker 7: Like what was he miked up at the shrineble? Was

2711
01:56:55,000 --> 01:56:56,600
Speaker 7: he one of the guys? Yeah, that's where I first

2712
01:56:56,640 --> 01:56:58,000
Speaker 7: heard him, and then we talked to him. I think

2713
01:56:58,040 --> 01:56:59,640
Speaker 7: like in the off season when they had just I mean,

2714
01:56:59,720 --> 01:57:01,280
Speaker 7: I have had a lot of experience with him, but

2715
01:57:01,400 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 7: he just you know, he's one of those guys has

2716
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:04,320
Speaker 7: just constant energy and just.

2717
01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:05,320
Speaker 3: Get on all the time.

2718
01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:08,160
Speaker 1: All right, listen, it's been fun.

2719
01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:09,040
Speaker 7: It's been a good show.

2720
01:57:09,120 --> 01:57:11,800
Speaker 1: But we've got it. We've got another chance to do

2721
01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:15,560
Speaker 1: it tomorrow tomorrow at too. Will turn our attention probably

2722
01:57:16,440 --> 01:57:19,840
Speaker 1: of the Kansas City Chiefs. Will they lose three games

2723
01:57:19,880 --> 01:57:23,320
Speaker 1: in a row? Will they bounce back? Will the Patriots

2724
01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:24,240
Speaker 1: win to in a row?

2725
01:57:24,440 --> 01:57:25,200
Speaker 7: Will Taylor Swift?

2726
01:57:25,280 --> 01:57:27,360
Speaker 5: No, Yeah, that's the biggest question. Is Taylor Swift coming?

2727
01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:28,480
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2728
01:57:30,160 --> 01:57:33,280
Speaker 5: But in bigger news, Zappie is not a Taylor Swift fan.

2729
01:57:33,560 --> 01:57:33,760
Speaker 10: Good.

2730
01:57:34,040 --> 01:57:36,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody asked Bill O'Brien today.

2731
01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:38,480
Speaker 1: Somebody actually had the nerve to say they weren't a

2732
01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:41,200
Speaker 1: Tailor Swift fan. That's that takes that takes ball.

2733
01:57:41,600 --> 01:57:43,640
Speaker 3: Say it right now, you're absolutely.

2734
01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:45,960
Speaker 6: Right, and this cancel culture, canceled culture.

2735
01:57:46,040 --> 01:57:47,040
Speaker 7: He likes hunting hogs.

2736
01:57:47,680 --> 01:57:49,320
Speaker 1: Yep, all right, see you tomorrow.

2737
01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:54,480
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01:57:54,800 --> 01:57:58,040
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01:58:01,640 --> 01:58:04,320
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