1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,520 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Samp this is John. 2 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 2: We're the ancient two case Storytime podcast hosts, and we 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: have some ancient wisdom in the stories coming up. If 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: you want to hear the wisdom from two old heads 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 2: that know more than they know what to do with, 6 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to wait for a quick message from 7 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: our sponsors for the next two minutes or so. 8 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 3: I had a huge fall out with my sister and 9 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 3: now our parents are getting involved. 10 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: They're gonna get divorced. 11 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 3: My sister twenty four female, and I twenty five female, 12 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 3: have had a relatively good relationship since leaving home. 13 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: You've gotten along very well. 14 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 3: However, when we were younger, we would argue a lot, 15 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 3: and it would almost always result in her winding me 16 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 3: up to a point that I lashed out, and I'd 17 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 3: always be the only one apologizing. Always felt on edge 18 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 3: and had to tread lightly when bring up anything she 19 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 3: might disagree with. We're also very different people, which adds 20 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: to the problem. By the way, in this country, muser, 21 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 3: you can read it, and if you want to submit 22 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 3: your own stories, go to the our slash Okay Storytime subreddit. 23 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 3: The other week, we went on holidays skiing for a 24 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: long weekend, me and my partner, a friend of ours, 25 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: my sister and one of her friends. All was fine 26 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 3: beforehand and no signs of issues at all. We have 27 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 3: quite a different sense of humor compared to my sister 28 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 3: and her friend, which caused some awkwardness, but nothing major. 29 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 3: To start with the theme, I was quite stressed in 30 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 3: the car drive from the airport, as we nearly got 31 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 3: lost a few times. When we finally arrived and my 32 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: partner left the car to get the key for the 33 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: hotel gate, my sister said, I don't know why he 34 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 3: stays with you, You're so annoying. I'm quite used to 35 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: these sorts of comments, so I just left the car. Then, 36 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 3: over the course of the next few days, my sister 37 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: just acted like we were there to serve her. 38 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: She would constantly ask. 39 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 3: Us to carry our bags or take them up to 40 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 3: the apartment with no pleases or thank you. Our friend 41 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: gave them a lift to get their shoes from the 42 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: ski shop, and while her friends were super thankful and 43 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 3: carried his bags, my sister didn't say thank you or 44 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 3: show any gratitude whatsoever. Also an example is that the 45 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 3: coffee machine leaked all over the counter and when I 46 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: found it and raised it, she didn't make a move 47 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 3: to help me clear it up, just sat and watched. 48 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 3: Another little thing was that we got coffee on the 49 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: first day and they just left their coffee cups in 50 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: the middle of the ski slope, just assuming someone else 51 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 3: would clean up after them. Also, over the weekend, we 52 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: had a tab set up where we'd add anything we spent, 53 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 3: and the idea was to split it at the end 54 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 3: of the. 55 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: Holiday to save half. 56 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 3: My sister did not once offer to pay for anything, 57 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 3: even when we were scrambling to find our cards to 58 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: pay for some drinks. 59 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: She just sat there and watched her peasants fumble about. 60 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 3: Added to this, when we went out for dinner, they 61 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: ordered a thirty dollars bottle of prosecco out of the blue, 62 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 3: which prompted us to deliberately pay separately, as we knew 63 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 3: they would want to split equally. Don't get me wrong, me, 64 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 3: my partner, and my friend all earn good wages, as 65 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 3: does my sister's friend. However, my sister doesn't earn a lot, 66 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 3: so we'd let all out of the stuff slide. Due 67 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 3: to this, this then came to a head on the 68 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: last day in the morning, they mentioned the idea of 69 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 3: getting a lift to drop their skis back at the 70 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 3: hire shop. My friend and my partner were the only 71 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 3: ones who could drive the hire car, and they said maybe, 72 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 3: but they'll probably be going for drinks after skiing, so 73 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 3: don't rely on it. It got to the end of 74 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 3: the day and they'd gone for those drinks, so they 75 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: couldn't give a lift. I said this to my sister 76 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: and said that there is a free shuttle bus right 77 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 3: to the ski shop that takes marginally longer than driving. 78 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 3: This resulted in a massive strop and she was really 79 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: pissed off, which ended up with me telling her that 80 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 3: it's their holiday too, and they're not here to drive 81 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 3: you around. We then got the bus with them to 82 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: sort their skis, suggesting we could go for drinks and 83 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 3: food afterwards to make it less rubbish for them. They 84 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 3: were both super quiet and grumpy. When finishing our drinks 85 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 3: at the bar, they made a comment that they could 86 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 3: just leave and not pay. Our friend went up to 87 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 3: cover our drinks and my partner made a comment to 88 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 3: them that it was their round. 89 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: They still hadn't paid by this point. 90 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 3: They then walked off and my friend didn't pay for 91 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: their drinks, resulting in the bar owner calling them back 92 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 3: to pay, slightly awkward. Then, when they'd left us later, 93 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: I added the car rental to the tab with the 94 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 3: idea of splitting that equally. My sister then deleted it 95 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: without any message. I asked why, and she replied that 96 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 3: we could speak about it tomorrow, and she also asked 97 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 3: me to get my partner and my friend to explain 98 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: why they thought they hadn't paid for anything. They then 99 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: settled there part of the tab after deleting a rental 100 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 3: car from the payment split. 101 00:03:58,480 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: This really annoyed. 102 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: Our friend messaged in the group we had, calling it 103 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: out and saying that her cavalier attitude was insulting. Nothing 104 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: happened after this until the morning when my sister message 105 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 3: saying she was really upset by the message and that 106 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: she hopes I don't agree with it. She did also 107 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: ask to meet up, but I felt backed into a 108 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 3: corner of disagreeing with what my friend had sat or 109 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 3: replied saying I don't want to fall out, but the 110 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: way she's acted over the holiday has been really hard, 111 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: but that we should just leave it and move on. 112 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 3: She then came back to the apartment with her friend. 113 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 3: Our friend had already left for skiing that day. Also 114 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: in the apartment were some builders fixing some stuff. When 115 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: I walked out of our room, she came storming out, 116 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 3: clearly furious, just repeating what haven't we paid for? 117 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: What haven't we paid for? 118 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 3: And completely shutting me down and bullying me to try 119 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 3: and get me to apologize for what our friend had said. 120 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: How can you let him say that? 121 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: It was really astonishing how dominant and aggressive she was, 122 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 3: particularly in front of complete strangers walking in and out. 123 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 3: I tried multiple times to diffuse the situation, saying we 124 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 3: should just talk about it and it's just how we felt. 125 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: I then go back to our room with my partner 126 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: waiting there. She then follows minutes later and forces herself 127 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 3: into our room. When my partner then tries to defend me, 128 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 3: she says, don't speak, which completely set him off. It's 129 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 3: worth noting he was hung over and still in bed. 130 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,239 Speaker 3: She'd started crying by this point and was shaking in anger. 131 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: I again tried to hug it out to neutralize it all, 132 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 3: but she just did. 133 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: Nothing and they left. 134 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 3: I like to again imagine that as you hugged her 135 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: and then her arms just went out and she wouldn't 136 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 3: hug you all the way. 137 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 4: I cannot do it by my Where is my arm 138 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 4: wrap around her? 139 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: Where is my elbow bend? I do not bend my 140 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: own elbow. I have not. 141 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 3: Spoken to her since, but she went back home the 142 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: weekend after and apparently was really upset about it all. 143 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: I spoke to my mom extensively on the phone, and 144 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: she came to visit and we talked some more. I 145 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 3: was quite clear in my position that I need an 146 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 3: apology from her for how she spoke to me and 147 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 3: my partner. I also talked more about how it's really 148 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 3: a trigger for my mental health, and I think the 149 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 3: way she used to treat me as a kid has 150 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: really impacted my anxiety in my adult years. But now 151 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: my issue is my dad's message. He's coming over today 152 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 3: to talk about it all, and I know they're going 153 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 3: to try and get me to apologize or let it 154 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: go completely. I feel like I need to stick to 155 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 3: what I know is real and stand up for myself, 156 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: as I don't want her to think that the way 157 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 3: she acted was acceptable at all. My friend has made 158 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 3: some good points here. They are I can't apologize for. 159 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: The way she made me feel. It's her problem, not mine. 160 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 3: I can't apologize for the way other people were made 161 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 3: to feel by her. Again, that's her problem. My love 162 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,799 Speaker 3: for my sister isn't unconditional. I deserve to be respected 163 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: by my family as you would a friend. I'm incredibly 164 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 3: nervous about speaking to my dad. He won't admit it, 165 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 3: but my sister has him around her little finger and 166 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 3: she is totally his favorite, a fact I've come to 167 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 3: terms with, but I worry this will cloud the chat later. 168 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 3: Just looking for some general advice. Am I doing the 169 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 3: right thing? There's an edit here. I forgot to mention 170 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 3: that she did transfer their share of the bill for 171 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 3: the rental car later that day after they left, but 172 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 3: no message accompanying it. 173 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: There's a second edit. I ended up meeting with my dad. 174 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 3: I know a lot of you felt I shouldn't have, 175 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 3: but it felt like a bit too late to call 176 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 3: it off, given he lives an hour away, and I 177 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: feel like it would have made everything a lot worse. 178 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: I had in my. 179 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: Head that I would go off what all of you 180 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 3: and my friend had said and stick to my stick. 181 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,679 Speaker 3: I'm really happy that I did stick to the plan. 182 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 3: The main bit that stings is that my parents see 183 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 3: the fact that I agreed with my friend's messages as 184 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: almost on par with the way that my sister behaved 185 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: both before and after. He said that if a friend 186 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: on a family holiday had said something like that in 187 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: a group chat, they'd all rally around the family member 188 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: no matter what. I fundamentally disagree with this, and as 189 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: someone who isn't good at standing up for themselves, it 190 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: was really difficult to get that across. I've read the 191 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 3: message back and it's three sentences saying that her cavalier 192 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 3: attitude is insulting and that he doesn't expect someone to 193 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: get angry because he's enjoying his holidays. I still don't 194 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 3: understand that, would Papa, This is still just mad. You know, 195 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 3: your sister's vocabulary is very weak. While accepting that I 196 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: wasn't going to apologize for anything, he also felt it 197 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 3: was unfair to ask my sister to do the same. 198 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: I do think I could have replied to my sister 199 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 3: that morning in maybe a better way, but they said 200 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: they thought I should have just left it and said 201 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: that my friend's message was out of order to basically 202 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: lie to keep the peace. 203 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: That message wasn't out of order at all. It was 204 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: in order. He was so in order. The elevator's going 205 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: up and down. 206 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 3: Next steps now are that my dad is going to 207 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: talk to my sister eye Rol and explain everything I've said. 208 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: He then wants us. 209 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: All to meet up again and go out for dinner, 210 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 3: but that requires traveling and also deciding where I want 211 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: to take this next. I think I'm going to try 212 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: and get a counseling session in before thinking about it. 213 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 3: To be honest, I'm feeling pretty sore about it all, 214 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 3: and really appreciate all the advice here. I've got a 215 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: lot to think about. I mostly want this part done 216 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 3: and dusted so I can stop building the relationship back 217 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: my own two And there's a third edit here. My 218 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 3: dad eventually messaged me asking if I had thought about 219 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 3: going to see my sister this week with him, and 220 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: suggested another weekend in a few weeks too. I said 221 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 3: no to anything this week and that it's my partner's 222 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 3: birthday the other weekend. Full message, It's quite a pity 223 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,599 Speaker 3: we can'tsult something out, in which case would you be 224 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 3: able to text your sister let her know when you're 225 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 3: in town next, perhaps suggests that you meet up. It 226 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 3: would also be lovely if you could suggest that you 227 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 3: will buy her a drink or something. I know that 228 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 3: you have always been generous with her in this way 229 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 3: in the past, but there is a risk of money 230 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 3: issues now being a problem between you. An offer like 231 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 3: this from you would probably put an end to this entirely. 232 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 3: I know I'm asking a lot by suggesting that you 233 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: get in touch with your sister in this way, but 234 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 3: I feel that we have made so much progress in 235 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 3: the last few days and this seems like a relatively 236 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 3: easy way to break the ice and draw a line 237 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 3: under this episode. 238 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: Would you do that for me? 239 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 3: After all your replies on my last post, I'm realizing 240 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 3: how biased and one sided all of this is. I'm 241 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 3: not sure why I'm the one who a has to 242 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 3: get in touch and b pay for the drinks, given 243 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 3: it's my sister who caused these issues in the first place. 244 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm being guilted into sorting this out, 245 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 3: and I'm very nearly at a point of falling out 246 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 3: with my dad. This has really pissed me off, and 247 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 3: now we have an update. I did reply to my 248 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 3: dad's message above in a super firm and decisive way, 249 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 3: especially for me. 250 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: Then I need an apology, but that it's. 251 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 3: Not worth the stress to cling on to the argument 252 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 3: so much much, so I asked him to leave it be. 253 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 3: He then proceeded to send a really long email, which 254 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 3: ship for the most part, was fairly reasonable and I 255 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 3: understand a lot of the comments on here about how 256 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 3: my dad shouldn't be involved at all, which I agree with, 257 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 3: but at this point it's futile. I'm applied to this 258 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 3: saying basically the same thing that I really need an apology, 259 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 3: but would be okay moving on from this, and would 260 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 3: be open to talking to her depending on the circumstances. 261 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 3: My parents went to visit my sister this weekend and 262 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: I've just heard back that she should be getting in 263 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: touch soon. However, apparently she also feels like she needs 264 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: an apology for what. I'm not sure. My dad keeps 265 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 3: referencing mistakes being made on both sides. 266 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: Oh those bad people on both sides. 267 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: Classic tiki torch, both sides are bad argument. I'm not 268 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 3: really struggling to argue this, as I didn't even say 269 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: anything horrible, just that I agreed with what my friend 270 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 3: had said. Explained she'd been a pain, but that it 271 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 3: wasn't a big deal and not worth falling out about. 272 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 3: I haven't had the chance to get to counseling yet 273 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 3: due to work restrictions, but got some flex this week, 274 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 3: so hoping to get it moving soon. Appreciate that there 275 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: will have been mistakes made by me in this process, 276 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 3: but overall I'm feeling relatively okay about it, as it's 277 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 3: the first time I've really stood up for myself and 278 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 3: not backed down straight away. 279 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: And that is the end of story. And I'm proud 280 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: of you, op for doing me. 281 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 3: With all this top down pressure on you, you got a 282 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 3: little bit lent. Yeah, you held your ground, you stood strong, 283 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: You did a brave heart. 284 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 4: My twin kept eating all my food and leaving nothing 285 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 4: for me. 286 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: Well, uh, you snooz, you lose princess. 287 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 4: I am twenty three female and he's twenty three male. 288 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 4: Note that female and male are the only differentiating factor. 289 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 4: Ever since I was eighteen the start of the pandemic, 290 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 4: I've been cooking all my own meals. We are a 291 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 4: six person household, my mom, brother, aunt, grandmother, grandfather, and me. 292 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 4: By the way, this comes from Homeruchen twenty twenty five, 293 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 4: and if you want to submit your own stories, go 294 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 4: to the r slash Okay storytime, separate it. 295 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: My mom cooks her own meals. 296 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 4: I cook my own meals, and my grandmother cooks for 297 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 4: her self and my grandfather and my aunt. We do 298 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 4: this because we're all very picky about food preferences and 299 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 4: we like the taste of her own food best. But 300 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 4: guess who doesn't have to cook his own meals? Guess 301 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 4: who has to cook for him? 302 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 1: You freaking got that right. 303 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 4: Since age eighteen, I have had the responsibility of cooking 304 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 4: for myself and my brother. 305 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. 306 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 4: I accepted this arrangement at first, not that I had 307 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 4: much of a choice, to be honest, so that it 308 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 4: would take some burden off my mom, who would have 309 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 4: took cook for him and herself otherwise. Ever since then, 310 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 4: I've been cooking for him pretty much every day. Whenever 311 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 4: he's home. I'm going to university from home while he's 312 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 4: living in a dorm and his university in a different state. 313 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 4: Whenever he comes home for breaks, I always have to 314 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 4: cook for him. Here are the various problems. One, I 315 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 4: am a vegetarian, and he is not. I have been 316 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 4: expected to cook him chicken from the start, three nights 317 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 4: a week on average. It made sense of the time 318 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 4: when I was also not vegetarian. But I have been 319 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 4: vegetarian since age twenty, and in fact, I'm considering going 320 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 4: vegans soon. I loathe the touch and smell of meat, 321 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 4: but I am still expected to cook chicken for him 322 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 4: because that's what he like too. Whenever I make food 323 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 4: for him, I generally go out of my way to 324 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 4: make something that he likes. To make things simpler, I 325 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 4: usually make the same vegetable and carb and then make 326 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 4: him chicken and meat towfood. Not every day, but this 327 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 4: is my standard formula. So for example, if my brother 328 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 4: asks for lemon chicken with potatoes and broccoli, if I'm 329 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 4: in the mood for an Asian sturfry or butterprenier that night, 330 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 4: then I'm out of luck. 331 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: It always has to be about him. Three. 332 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 4: I have a formula where I make four servings of 333 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 4: food each night. This means that we get one serving 334 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 4: each for dinner and then one serving each for lunch 335 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 4: the next day. That way, I only have to cook 336 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 4: once per day. Breakfast is managed on our own, usually 337 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 4: something quick like oats or cereal. Keep in mind that 338 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 4: he knows full well this is my formula. If this 339 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 4: is ever deviated from, then I have to cook something 340 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 4: the next day for lunch, and again for dinner, and 341 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 4: day after that's lunch. Now, in all fairness, I should 342 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 4: also add that my brother is generally appreciative of what 343 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 4: I cook. 344 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: Not always. Sometimes he has complained about what I make. 345 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 4: I remember one time I made him cornbread as a tweet, 346 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 4: something I know he likes very much, but since I 347 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 4: didn't tolm I was making that, he griped at me. 348 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 4: I also got scolded. 349 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: By my mom later. 350 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 5: Ooh. 351 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 4: Normally, however, he generally thanks me for what I make. 352 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 4: Even so, I'm not sure he understands how much energy 353 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 4: it takes to cook every night, not just for myself 354 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 4: but for him as well. So anyways, last night I 355 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 4: made pasta for myself. My mom told me not to 356 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 4: make it because he might not want it, but I 357 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 4: was in the mood for pasta for once. I decided 358 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 4: to do something for me, so I made a pasta, 359 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 4: cheese and vegetable bake. OL thing took about forty minutes 360 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 4: to make, and my mom was wrong. He was very 361 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 4: appreciative of what I made and loved it. I also 362 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 4: loved it and was looking forward to having some bunch today. 363 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 4: But today, when I went to eat lunch, I discovered. 364 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: There was no pasta left. I was completely. 365 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 4: Confused because I had made exactly enough for four servings, 366 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 4: two for him, two for me, So clearly he ate 367 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 4: two servings all on his own and left me with nothing. 368 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 4: My grandmother fell sorry for me and gave me some 369 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 4: of her leftover food. As nice as that was, I 370 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 4: still fell of upsets. I had really been looking forward 371 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 4: to pasta, but it was all gone. I didn't say anything, 372 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 4: but it probably showed on my face that I was upset. 373 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 4: My grandfather told me that I was being dramatic and 374 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 4: making a big deal out of it. I didn't say 375 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 4: anything after that. I just ate my food and then 376 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 4: disappeared to my room, where I have remained since. So 377 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 4: what do you think am I the ale for getting 378 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 4: upset when my brother ate the food I made for myself? 379 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 4: Side note? Do you think this will destroy my relationship 380 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 4: with my brother? I am thinking of limiting my contact 381 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 4: with the rest of my family once I graduate and 382 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 4: have financial independence. But I do still want a relationship 383 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 4: with my brother, and it would be sad if I 384 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 4: don't have it. 385 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: What do you think? And there are some comments there's 386 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: a very easy fix to this. You just stop cooking 387 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: for him. Easy fix. 388 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 4: And also, if you have a good relationship with your brother, 389 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 4: or at least any sort of relationship, go to him 390 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,239 Speaker 4: and say, hey, you're an adult now, I'm not gonna cook. 391 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: For you anymore. Ah, help you'd learn? Yeah, I'd get 392 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: a couple of recipes up and running. Here, let's let's 393 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: get some easy recipes. 394 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 4: We're gonna teach you how to make freaking chicken ben baby, 395 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 4: and you get brecky going to learn so quick. But 396 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 4: I want to have a good relationship with you, and 397 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 4: I can't if I'm making you food all the time. 398 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: Palm and one. 399 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 4: What I read is my misogynistic family are making me 400 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 4: the personal caterer and chef of my brother of the 401 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 4: same age, no disabilities mentioned, just because he's a man 402 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 4: and I, as a woman, am expected to serve him. 403 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 4: And basically your family is coddling him and setting him 404 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 4: up to be a useless human. 405 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: For the rest of his life. 406 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 4: Cook for yourself, and if you have the budgets, start 407 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 4: getting groceries for yourself. That way, Mom can't tell you. You 408 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 4: use our growth thries. So you cook for your brother. 409 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 4: What exactly is your mom and your grandparents expecting to 410 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 4: accomplish with this to create a mama's boy who's incapable 411 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 4: of surviving on his own. Let me guess he barely 412 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 4: does laundry while at college and gets home with loads 413 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 4: of laundry for you or your mom or your poor 414 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 4: grandma to do. Because baby boy can't be expected to 415 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 4: lift a finger. Stop being his unpaid made and cook 416 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 4: and if he wants one, let him pay for one 417 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 4: that or take care of his own. Stop letting this 418 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 4: family use you. Comment two, girls, Stop he's a grown man. 419 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 4: He should cook his own food. Reply not doing a 420 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 4: a favor, but not making him learn to cook. Most 421 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 4: twelve year olds can cook. Is he expecting a wife 422 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 4: to cook for him? 423 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: Comment three? Not the ale? 424 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 4: But have you considered that maybe your mom was mad 425 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 4: about you not cooking towards your brother's wants and tossed 426 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 4: either both or just your servings of the PASTA Just 427 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 4: something to consider it before outright accusing your brother, and 428 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,959 Speaker 4: to peacefully talk to him ply. I hadn't thought of that. 429 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 4: I think the best bet is for Opie to sit 430 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 4: down with her brother and ask him why he ate 431 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 4: her share. If he denies it, you should go ask 432 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 4: the mother what happened to the extra share. I suspect 433 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 4: that mom would be truthful with him, but she won't 434 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 4: be with the daughter. If you did eat her share 435 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 4: for lunch, then I would refuse to cook him dinner 436 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 4: that day and tell him he already had a share 437 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 4: for the day. And there is an update, folks, thank 438 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 4: you all for the well wishes. I spoke to my 439 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 4: brother and straight out asked him if he ate it. 440 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 4: He admitted it and apologized. 441 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 3: Apparently he did realize it's my Wait, that's kind of endearing. 442 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I ate it. It is really good. 443 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: Is it really tastes? 444 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 3: I like it? 445 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: And I thought, I thought, I don't have it. Don't 446 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: give him that, don't give him the satisfaction. You know, 447 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: he's a baby, a baby, he's a baby, right, he's 448 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: a baby. I have it because he's a really good 449 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: and I didn't know it was yours. I didn't realize. 450 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. 451 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 3: When you pivot, you go hey, Bud, you want to 452 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 3: learn how to make that all by yourself? 453 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: No, you do it for me. You do it for me. 454 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 4: He says, No, it tastes better when my sissy makes it. 455 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: You make it with love like no, I actually don't. 456 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 4: Apparently he didn't realize it was mine, even though he 457 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 4: had chicken left over from another night and knows I 458 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 4: cannot eat chicken, So why didn't he eat his chicken 459 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 4: and give me the pasta? But after he apologized, he 460 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 4: started acting like the victim and complained. 461 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: That you were yelling at me. 462 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 4: My mom then stepped in, and then she agreed to 463 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 4: cook his meals and let me cook my own. Unfortunately, 464 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 4: the story does get worse. My mom doesn't just insist 465 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 4: I cook. She and my grandfather also shamey for the 466 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 4: food choices I make. But I made pasta. My grandfather said, 467 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 4: you're an audiating healthy note that he never said that 468 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 4: to my brother. 469 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: I just go no, Grandpa, are gonna put you in 470 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: that home? Grandpa? 471 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 4: One day, the two of them shame me for putting 472 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 4: dates in my breakfast smoothie because apparently they're too high 473 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 4: in sugar. Dates are so good for you, even though 474 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 4: it was only made of fruits, vegetable oat, milk, and 475 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 4: cooked oats, not a drop of added sugar. But no 476 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 4: one said anything when my brother ate a big stack 477 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 4: of chocolate chip pancakes. 478 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: Oh, pea stilly o. Pee, that's because you're a woman. 479 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 3: Oh, this is a standard classic American breakfast of change. 480 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: And no, he did not make those pancakes himself. My 481 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: mother made them for him. I constantly get comments about 482 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: what I eat, to the point where I don't even 483 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: want to eat anymore. No no, no, no, no, no, 484 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: no cay that, no, no do that? 485 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 6: No? 486 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: Oh pee. Genuinely, if that is that last. 487 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 3: Sentence, literally like full degenerate is where I would be 488 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 3: going with my Like Grandpa's like you shouldn't eat that, 489 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 3: I'd be like, you should go back to the century 490 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 3: you were born in, Grandpa. 491 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: And then Mom would be like, oh, I can't believe 492 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: you'd say that. 493 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 3: I'd be like, I can't believe you are still yapping 494 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 3: at me. Get away from me, Go cook more meals 495 00:19:59,240 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 3: for my brother. 496 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 4: Also another point, I don't have the finances to buy 497 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 4: my own groceries. Both my brother and I live entirely 498 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 4: off our own our family's money. Neither of us have 499 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 4: jobs yet. I'm gonna get a job this upcoming semester, 500 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 4: my last semester, but I won't be financially independent until 501 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 4: I save enough. 502 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: Ohpee. 503 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 4: I would recommend trying to get a job right now. Yeah, Like, 504 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 4: if you have any free. 505 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: Time at all, try and get a job right now. Like, 506 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna be. It's gonna be tough. 507 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 4: It's gonna stuck because you're gonna have to you know, 508 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 4: you're gonna have a lot less free time if you 509 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 4: have any. Hopefully you do, but start saving up money immediately, 510 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 4: because the longer that you're under your parents'. 511 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: Roof, worst it's gonna be. 512 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 4: I graduate in January and hopefully we'll go to graduate 513 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 4: school the August after. Because my brother and I are 514 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 4: dependent on my mother, we both have to deal with 515 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 4: her controlling behavior. It's not a situation I'm gonna get 516 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 4: out of for a long long time. Yeah, I think forever. 517 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: It's a long long time. I really hope that it's 518 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: not true and that you do get out of it soon. 519 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: You're probably capable of more than you expect. Yeah, I mean, 520 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: you're already cooking two meals, like it seems. 521 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 4: Like the most that, which I don't want to discredit 522 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 4: how sucky it is, but it feels like the most 523 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 4: that your mom's gonna give you is just complaining rather 524 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 4: than like I'm gonna kick you out of the house 525 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 4: if you don't do this. So, if you can stop 526 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 4: making your brother meals, it's gonna cut down the amount 527 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 4: of time that you're spending on this. Try and get 528 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 4: that extra job, even if it's just like a part 529 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 4: time job, anything that brings in money, and like start 530 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 4: saving up at least, you know, buy your own groceries 531 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 4: something like that. 532 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 3: I got the cops called on my neighbor and it 533 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 3: got my sister in trouble. Woo woo, you're under rest background. 534 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 3: I forty female. I'm unmarried with no kids. My sister 535 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: forty five female, is married with three kids. And bought 536 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 3: a house about three or four years ago in the 537 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 3: super nice suburb in our town. It's a great area 538 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 3: with lots of parks, trails, really good school system. 539 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: I found and bought a house in the same neighborhood. 540 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: I loved it for the size of the yard. 541 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 3: It's great for my dog, love how I can walk 542 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 3: or jog to all the trails in the local lake. 543 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: It is, however, very suburban and most of the people 544 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 3: we'll here have families, making me a little bit of 545 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 3: an outlier, but I'm. 546 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: Fine with that. I don't really care. By the way, 547 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 1: this comes from user apprehensive can ten oh eight. 548 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 3: And if you want to go to to beat your 549 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 3: own stories, don't you go to the r slash okay 550 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 3: storytime sub reddit. 551 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: I live in the house by myself. 552 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 3: Neighbors have been nice, but most of them hang out 553 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 3: with each other and have playdates with the kids. There 554 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 3: are neighborhood barbecues that I have been to. 555 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: A week ago. 556 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 3: I'm watching TV at home around nine pm, and all 557 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 3: of a sudden, my dogs start going crazy. My doorbell 558 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 3: rings multiple times and then rapid knocking. I jump off 559 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 3: of my couch and look at my ring doorbell and 560 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 3: it's a stranger male knocking at my door. That's horrifying. 561 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 3: I have no idea who he is, and he just 562 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 3: keeps banging on my door. My dogs are freaking out, 563 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 3: so I called the cops. He goes away after about 564 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 3: five to seven minutes. The cops show up twenty minutes later. 565 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 3: I showed them the video. They told me they know 566 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 3: who it is and wouldn't tell me and then laughed. 567 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 3: The next day, I get a phone call from my sister. 568 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 3: She is super pissed that I called the cops on 569 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 3: Dave and how could I do that in this community? 570 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm confused. Who is day? Oh? 571 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 3: It's apparently the local neighborhood watch guy in school teacher 572 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 3: and he thought I was driving too fast down the 573 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 3: street and wanted to talk with me. I was flabbergasted. 574 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 3: First of all, there isn't any way to drive fast 575 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 3: in this neighborhood. There are stop signs everywhere, cops everywhere, 576 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 3: they literally have their own police force, and there are 577 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 3: speed bumps every two blocks number two? 578 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: Why didn't he call text email. 579 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 3: Before knocking on the door at nine pm on anyone's house, 580 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 3: much less a single woman at home. Sister said that 581 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 3: my reaction was totally over the top, and you don't 582 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 3: live in the hood anymore. People visit other people. I 583 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 3: stand by my right to be safe and not get 584 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 3: asked by my neighbor. Sister is pissed because there was 585 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 3: no danger whatsoever, and apparently this was the discussion at 586 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 3: the recent PTA meeting, and since I wasn't there, why. 587 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: Would I go to a PTA meeting. 588 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 3: She was charged with defending me, and now she looks 589 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 3: bad by association. She also brought up that I walk 590 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 3: my dogs without a brawl on all the time, and 591 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 3: that's just not good. 592 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: Oh my god, there's blood running through the streets. Your 593 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: memories are not encased within a brazil. Oh boy, she's 594 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: on weed. 595 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 3: She wants me to reach out to Dave and apologize 596 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 3: and say that I'm absolutely sorry for calling the cops 597 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 3: and driving fast. She told me I needed to play 598 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 3: nice with the neighbors unless I wanted to be moving 599 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 3: in a year. Maybe I did overreact, but I am 600 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 3: just so annoyed that I don't want to do anything 601 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 3: related to that, and maybe that makes me the A 602 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 3: whole thoughts, No, you're not the ahole. 603 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: We've got some comments here from Tater Sprout, not the 604 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: a whole. 605 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: What Dave did was highly inappropriate, and you being discussed 606 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 3: at a PTA meeting was also inappropriate. Is this an hoa? 607 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 3: Actually no, there is no hoa. This is partially why 608 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 3: I brought this here. The PTA meetings apparently just have 609 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 3: slowly become a neighborhood meeting because everyone is there. 610 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: I guess per my sister. 611 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 3: There are a few other people here that don't have 612 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 3: kids or aren't married, but I don't know what they do, 613 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 3: nor do I care. Deleted says not the A hole. 614 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 3: I'd get a sign from my door that said f 615 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 3: off and get a life, Dave. Also, the no broth 616 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 3: thing is creepy, and I would get this sleaziest dog 617 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 3: walking outfit I could find. Now, I advise you not 618 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 3: to drink the kool aid at the neighborhood barbecues. You 619 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 3: might turn mental like these busy boddies. Opie replies to 620 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 3: this comment. The more I think about it, the more 621 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 3: I think it's my sister talking. When she's talking about 622 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 3: the dog walking bra thing. She said, And by the way, 623 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 3: walking your dog without a bra and it's just weird 624 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 3: and needs the dressing. 625 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: Get up bra that dog, man, get up bra on 626 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: that dog. Put a bra on your dog. 627 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 4: Your dog's tatas are swinging, everyone's seeing them. 628 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 3: Put up bra in that Come on, where are we 629 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 3: Danna Carvey playing Bill Clinton at the beginning of that 630 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 3: one show. 631 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. 632 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 3: Maybe she's more of approved than I realized. Half Life 633 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 3: nine to seven six says, not the A hole, Dave 634 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 3: needs to keep his nose out of people's business and 635 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 3: learn to knock politely. Busybodies are the worst. I would 636 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 3: move out of step food if I were you. That 637 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 3: small town mentality is toxic. I will walk my dog 638 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 3: Braless today, and your runner, op says, go braless. Honestly, 639 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 3: walking a dog Braless wasn't even something that crossed my mind. 640 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 3: I walk them early in the morning in my pajamas 641 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 3: with a cup of coffee in my hand. That commenter replies, 642 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 3: they need something to talk about, and you're the only 643 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 3: unordinary element in their very ordinary world. Tell them to 644 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 3: start swinging on you. If the boredom is that bad, 645 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 3: leave you out of their discussion. Interesting how your sister 646 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 3: is on their side. Did she always forego loyalty just 647 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 3: to fit in with new friends, Opie says, She's always 648 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 3: been something. Half the reason I moved here is because 649 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 3: she loves it here. She's constantly talked about how great 650 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 3: the neighborhood was, how nice the parks were, how great 651 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 3: it was to be able to just walk everywhere, and 652 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 3: the local bakery is super nice. 653 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. 654 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 3: So this is her fault that her pig headed little 655 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 3: sister is ruining her reputation. Honestly, I feel like I 656 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 3: should just go to the next PTA meeting to see 657 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 3: if it is as big of a deal as she's 658 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 3: saying it is. She sometimes blow things way out of proportion. 659 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 3: Why didn't OPE look before calling the police? Honestly, I 660 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 3: didn't even think to do so. I rarely use the 661 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 3: ring thing to do much more than watch my mailman 662 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 3: drop off the mail. Literally, my dogs started barking. I 663 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 3: got up off the couch, and then the doorbell rang 664 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 3: in rapid succession, ding dong, ding dong, ding dong, ding dong. 665 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 3: I'm trying to grab my phone to see and grab 666 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 3: the dogs. Then bang ing, ring, ming bang on my door. 667 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 3: I saw someone I don't know banging on my door aggressively, 668 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 3: so I just I just ran upstairs and called the cops. 669 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 3: And there's an update here. I think I'm doing this right. 670 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 3: I made acquaintances with my neighbors next door, the gardeners. 671 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 3: They're empty nesters. That's what happens when you have whoopsie 672 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 3: kids twenty one. My neighbor they're very nice people. They 673 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 3: told me that the PTA meeting is nothing more than 674 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 3: a reason for a bunch of people to get together 675 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 3: for food and drinks, and if you really had something 676 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 3: to talk about, you go to the real school board meeting. 677 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 3: They told me win and wear, and I went low 678 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 3: and behold, it's like a neighborhood barbecue. They all gather 679 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 3: at someone's house and order pizza and bring drinks and 680 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 3: maybe a couple of pies or desserts. Not everyone comes, really, 681 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 3: just the neighbors in that area, and then it rotates. 682 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 3: I had a warm welcome, and no one really talked 683 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 3: about school or kid stuff. My sister was there, but 684 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 3: she avoided me. I ended up talking to a couple 685 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 3: people and gently, aka very indirectly, brought up Dave. And 686 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 3: everyone here was right. Everyone knows Dave. The general consensus 687 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 3: is he's a busybody, has reported half the neighborhood to 688 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 3: I don't even know. 689 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: Nothing ever comes of it, and he's kind of a nuisance. 690 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 3: He does have a loyal group of neighbors that defend him, 691 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 3: but mostly just stay clear of it. I ended up 692 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 3: telling my neighbor about what happened, and she laughed, saying 693 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 3: that she would have done the exact same thing, and 694 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 3: her husband chimed in though, if you open the door 695 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 3: for Dave, the only thing. 696 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: To fear is that you will be talked to death. 697 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 3: So all in all, no one seemed to care about 698 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 3: what happened, and honestly, no one even seemed to know. 699 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: But I don't want to listen to any more of 700 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: what Dave has to say. 701 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, literally, I think I vote actual farts pray, but 702 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 3: I I knowe arts pray. You open your door, you go, 703 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 3: and then. 704 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 4: You does seem like your sister is making this whole 705 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 4: big deal about stuff that just her and Dave are 706 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 4: going over, because it seems like the rest of the 707 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 4: neighborhood is like what I Yeah, Dave's a freaking nuisance. Yeah, 708 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 4: it seems to don't worry about them, ignore them, be like, no, sorry, 709 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 4: I'm going to not open the door, you know, late 710 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 4: at night for a stranger. 711 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: I'm not going to open the door for you late 712 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: at night, not if you're knocking like that. Nope, nope, nope. 713 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: I assume they're dating, the sister and Dave. It got 714 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: to be together. Why else would she be like so 715 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: involved with Dave because she's got a crush on Dave. 716 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 3: So I went over to my sister's since she's the 717 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 3: only one that seems to be making this into a 718 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 3: big deal. Long story short, she is she doesn't like 719 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 3: that I moved here, and that's it. 720 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: Really, she convinced you to come. She's like, now she's 721 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: compying my like home. Now she's here, and I actually 722 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: don't want her to be here. It's like copying my 723 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: whole life. 724 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 3: She just really didn't think I would ever move to 725 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 3: the suburbs, and when I did it, she really didn't 726 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 3: want to be lumped together with me. 727 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: We got into kind of a fight over it. 728 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 3: Also, she wanted to run for school board and Dave 729 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 3: sits on the school board, so he was pissed that 730 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 3: I called the cops, and she felt like I was 731 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 3: getting her in trouble. We currently aren't talking. What a 732 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 3: wonderful life. That must bad You not have to talk 733 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 3: to the most annoying people in your life. 734 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, wonderful. Hey, it's Sam. We're gonna get back 735 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: to these stories. 736 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 2: But here's three bits of ads from our sponsors that 737 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 2: keep the show alive. 738 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 6: My husband is infuriated by my schedule because I can't 739 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 6: cook them dinner. 740 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: Well, that doesn't seem fair to me, Sugar. 741 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 6: Warning her blue. I feel too old for the sun, 742 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 6: but it's cheaper than the therapist, so here it goes. 743 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 6: I'm also incredibly upset and and frustrated right now, and 744 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 6: I'd like some feedback about what has been going on 745 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 6: issue with my marriage with an otherwise very reasonable man. 746 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 6: I'm married for nine together for fourteen. By the way, 747 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 6: this comes from fed up. Won't feed us and if 748 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 6: you want us to your own stories, go to the 749 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 6: art slash Okay storytelling stubredit. I'm a high school teacher 750 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 6: as well as a professor in the same subject at 751 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 6: a local community college. This means two days a week, 752 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 6: after school ends at one pm, I drive an hour 753 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 6: to the community college and have classes and office hours. 754 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 6: My husband works a government job that allows him to 755 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 6: work midnight shifts. While it's hard on him, this is 756 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 6: always allows him to pick up our daughter at school 757 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 6: and look after our toddler. Combined with the commute as 758 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 6: I hit traffic, I get home for my second job 759 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 6: around seven pm. I'm exhausted from the day and still 760 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 6: have lots of grading to do from all the classes 761 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 6: I teach. I'd also like to turn in at a 762 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 6: reasonable hour, as I'm usually up at quarter to five 763 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 6: getting ready for school that starts at seven a m. 764 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 6: When I'm busy and tired like this, I asked my 765 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 6: husband to make dinner that night, usually the night before, 766 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 6: though I don't ask as much anymore. He always refuses 767 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 6: cause he says he hates cooking and that if I 768 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 6: manage my time better, I could cook for us and great. 769 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 6: I get upset because I feel he's being selfish and 770 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 6: not respecting the hard work I do, and he gets 771 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 6: upset because I'm not doing what he wants. He's bad 772 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 6: a lot of resentment ever since I got the job 773 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 6: at the college last year. The thing is, I don't 774 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 6: expect him to be Julia child. He can cook something 775 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 6: quick and easy if he doesn't like it, I mean, 776 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 6: come on, it's a necessary life skill. I also don't 777 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 6: mean to devalue his working midnight shifts as as a 778 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 6: sacrifice I appreciate very much from him. But he's around 779 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 6: the house all day. Why can't he cook? If I 780 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 6: do cook, I end up very behind on work, as 781 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 6: well as agitated. 782 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: When I absolutely can't. 783 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 6: Be behind, we end up ordering takeout as usual on 784 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 6: these nights, which I dislike because I want our kids 785 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 6: eating as healthy as possible. I'd also don't like them 786 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 6: eating so late, especially as our toddler's normal bedtime is seven. 787 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 6: He should be going to bed, not eating dinner. Aside 788 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 6: from my son's sleep schedule, which has begun impacting the 789 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 6: speed at which I'm able to return assignments to students. 790 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 6: It's also a big I'm totally willing to cook when 791 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 6: I don't have to teach at the community college, so 792 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 6: it's not as if I never cook or if I'm 793 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 6: not pulling my weight. I also bring home food fast 794 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 6: from work, I suppose, but I really want McDonald's and 795 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 6: junk like that just to be a treat for my kids, 796 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 6: not a staple of their dying. It's the straw that 797 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 6: broke the camel's back, though. Was tonight The day is 798 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 6: the day I teach, and traffic was bad tonight due 799 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 6: to the accidents. I got home at around seven forty 800 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 6: five instead of seven. Dinners still hasn't been made, and 801 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 6: the kids were starving. He's always said when we thought 802 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 6: about this, that he wouldn't let them not eat past 803 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 6: seven thirty if I was late, which was why I 804 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 6: didn't think to stop on the way home, but I 805 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 6: guess I was wrong. I even texted him traffic was 806 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 6: out of stop. Please feed the kids. I will be 807 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 6: home for a while. This was the whole reason we 808 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 6: kept boxed mac and cheese in the house for emergencies. 809 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 6: I was furious he hadn't fed them. He got angry 810 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 6: at me and told me that since he's the bread winner, 811 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 6: he gets to dictate who cooks and when I'm so 812 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 6: angry that he used his status against me, And it's 813 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 6: not like my salaries are just pennies, by the way, 814 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 6: he makes a lot more than me. The children did 815 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 6: get fed, but I am so so frustrated and don't 816 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 6: want to speak to him right now. I feel like 817 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 6: he's being incredibly selfish and unreasonable. 818 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,239 Speaker 1: We got an edit. 819 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 6: Well, I really, really, I do appreciate your solutions to 820 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 6: the cooking part of this problem. My problem does go 821 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 6: deeper than that. I feel disrespected and I have a 822 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 6: problem with his attitude. Advice on how to communicate with 823 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 6: him better would be appreciated, as well as advice regarding 824 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 6: the actual cooking issue. Update. First of all, I guess 825 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 6: I should probably go more to detail about some common 826 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 6: misconceptions from my last posts. I would really really rather 827 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 6: not quit my second job, because once I complete this semester, 828 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 6: it's extremely likely I'll be offered a full time position 829 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 6: at the community college for more money on less hours 830 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 6: than my job at the high school. 831 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, So we have a game plan here, Okay, 832 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: because I'm saying. 833 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 6: I don't know if this is on the husband. If 834 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 6: he's there during the day, all he needs to do 835 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 6: is like make sure the kids get fed and just 836 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 6: stick it up, Like if you ate cooking. Is that 837 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 6: big of a problem, you know, Just like get a 838 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 6: game plan here, so then you know how to communicate. Communicate, 839 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 6: Oh my god, communicate. My husband will also be able 840 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,439 Speaker 6: to work from the day shift most days, as we'd 841 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 6: be home with our son. This is a temporary, but 842 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 6: very difficult situation that will I think, end up being 843 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 6: for the best second of all, In order to accommodate 844 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 6: my husband as much as possible in the sacrifice he's 845 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 6: making working midnight shifts, I do all of the chores 846 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 6: on his days off. I do ninety nine point nine 847 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 6: percent of the childcare. The point one percent is picking 848 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 6: up our daughter school on Fridays, as our son sees 849 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 6: his OT slash speech therapist that day and one hundred 850 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 6: percent of the housework, he has openly said, and when 851 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 6: he is home with our son he usually keeps him 852 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 6: in his playpen most of the time so we can 853 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 6: sleep or play Xbox and that stupid online Capture the 854 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 6: Flag game. So I really don't appreciate people making up 855 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 6: complete bogus schedules and posting them to be like, gotcha, 856 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 6: You're a witch. Thanks to a terrible turn yesterday, I 857 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 6: decided that, using a lot of the advice I got here, 858 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 6: i'd make extra for dinner the night before, easily prepared 859 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 6: meals like sandwiches Tuesdays and Thursdays, it's still requiring him 860 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 6: microwaving or symbling together some bread and sandwich material since 861 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 6: I was going to insist on our son going to 862 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 6: bed at his normal time before seven, but no reasonable 863 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 6: person would object to that, right ron, I had the 864 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 6: conversation with him. I first he see him receptive as 865 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 6: I stayed calm and told him how much I appreciate 866 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 6: the fact that he works nights, but I don't want 867 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 6: the kids eating so late, and I really need him 868 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 6: to help me out here. He said okay and asked 869 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 6: what I had in mind. As soon as I told 870 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 6: him he was going to have to microwave food or 871 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 6: throw together sandwiches or a salad, he totally changed. He 872 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 6: began throwing a tantrum to rivel, our two year old, 873 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,439 Speaker 6: yelling and stomping and beating the countertops. I've never ever 874 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 6: seen him like this. I could barely even tell what 875 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 6: he was saying. I did hear things like that should 876 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 6: be your job and lazy witch, and then I never 877 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 6: want to kids. 878 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: You forced me into this woo. 879 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 6: That was certainly news to me. Whenever we first kind 880 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 6: of gauge, I talked to him down from his original 881 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 6: to I hired four kids too, And just six months 882 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 6: ago we fought again because he wanted the third kid 883 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 6: and I don't. When I asked him to please calm 884 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 6: down so we could have an actual productive conversation, he 885 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 6: threw his adult Sodo bottle and stormed out of the house. 886 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 6: This was even before I got to the part about 887 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 6: us and needed to go to counseling, or the issues 888 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 6: surrounding his respect for me. He still has to come home, 889 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 6: and I have no idea where he is. He won't 890 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 6: answer his phone. Even though I'm absolutely furious with him, 891 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,240 Speaker 6: I'm also very worried, so I guess my main question 892 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 6: is how do I deal with possibly being left by 893 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 6: my husband because he didn't want to microwave some leftovers 894 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 6: for ninety seconds. I'm way too embarrassed to tell my 895 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 6: friends or family this yet we got an update. Bye 896 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 6: to all of you, and thanks for shaking some Cincinnaty. 897 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 6: Someone said this was a police matter, and I decided 898 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 6: to make it one. I just got back from finally 899 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 6: a report with the police, telling them that my husband 900 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 6: had thrown a bottle and abandoned the family, leaving me 901 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 6: unable to reach him. They are very nice and good 902 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,439 Speaker 6: about everything, to my own surprise. I'm going to see 903 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 6: a law your first thing tomorrow morning when it opens, 904 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 6: and will talk to the legality of changing my mind 905 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 6: locks divorce and primary custody. I also left a final 906 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 6: voicemail on my husband's phone telling him all of this. 907 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 6: On a less important note, also acquired a siter. One 908 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 6: of the secretaries at the high school I'm acquaintances with, 909 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 6: had her daughter come in to take a break from 910 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 6: college this semester. After doing badly last fall and I 911 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 6: arranged it within the past hour and now shoot babysit 912 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 6: for me, though I do intend on taking tomorrow off 913 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 6: at least from work. Thanks for everyone for your help 914 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 6: and concern. 915 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 3: Edit. 916 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 6: In light of some new legal information I've googled and 917 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 6: found out from here, we are going to a hotel 918 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 6: around forty minutes away for now instead of staying at 919 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 6: the house. If I'm unable to change the locks, I 920 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 6: will probably end up renting a place via Craigslist. We're 921 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 6: somewhere in order to give the kids a more stable home. 922 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: Wow, dang, there we go. 923 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 5: Ah yeah, because at first I was like, Okay, maybe 924 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 5: this is the kind of thing where it's like she 925 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 5: like wants to stay. She just like doesn't understand why 926 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 5: he's being like this and like not doing his part. 927 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 5: How can we do this without just going straight to divorce? 928 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 5: And then I started thinking of like petty things she 929 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 5: could do, like only making food for the kids, yeah, 930 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 5: and like really not making any food for him at all. 931 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: I saw earlier that he. 932 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 6: Needs to take an MRI because sometimes brain tumors happen, 933 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 6: uh go off the road. 934 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 5: Yeah maybe yeah, But then he like started throwing things 935 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 5: and hitting things, and then I was like, Okay, well, 936 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 5: if he's doing that from just this, you can't really 937 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 5: mess with him more. 938 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 1: Because it could be dangerous. Dude, so good, she did 939 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: the right thing, but you didn't. 940 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I wonder I wonder if it's some sort of 941 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 5: like genuine mental thing that obviously you know, still doesn't 942 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 5: have to put up with, but it could explain things. 943 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I also wonder if it was, like, really. 944 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 5: Something she did say was out of nowhere, but a 945 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 5: lot of the stuff of like taking care of the 946 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 5: kids seemed like that's kind of. 947 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: How it has been. 948 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, their whole lives, which isn't very many years, but 949 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 5: still enough. I think my husband is cheating on me. 950 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,359 Speaker 5: There's something fishy about his coworker, and we're not at 951 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 5: a fish market. My husbend forty two male and I 952 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,720 Speaker 5: forty female, have been together for five years now. Everything 953 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 5: is great overall. We compliment each other nicely. I'm a 954 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 5: social butterfly, he's more introverted. The thing is, I'm wary 955 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 5: of one of his coworkers. I'm not the jealous type, 956 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 5: but I don't know why. There is something that bothers me. 957 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 5: By the way, this comes from a smoochi and if 958 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 5: you want to submit your own stories, go to the 959 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 5: r slasha Okay, story Time's Upbreddit. I have access to 960 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 5: his phone and I don't know why, but one day 961 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 5: I checked her messages. There was nothing much. They don't 962 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 5: speak every day and mostly about work related things. But 963 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 5: one message got my attention. She was asking what he 964 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 5: thought about her, and he said that she would always 965 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 5: be beautiful to him. I was uneasy, tried to find 966 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 5: something else, but I didn't. I let it go as 967 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 5: I two am sometimes very familiar with my coworkers. Now, 968 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 5: a few days ago, I decided to check again, and 969 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 5: I'm crushed by what I saw. She asked, what is 970 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 5: his taste for something random? He just answered you, what 971 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 5: do you think I should do? He was allegedly cheated 972 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 5: on by his ex and was making a big deal 973 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 5: about being faithful. Now I'm second guessing everything he told me. 974 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 5: I don't know if I need to keep digging or 975 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 5: just confront him. We have kids, live together, and I 976 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 5: thought we were happy. I cannot believe what's happening right now. 977 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 5: I guess it happens a lot, especially at work, but 978 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 5: dang hurt updates so being the transparent self that I am. 979 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,439 Speaker 5: I couldn't hold it back, so I confronted him yesterday morning. First, 980 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 5: he was so confused and kept saying what what? So 981 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 5: I asked him to be honest, but he kept being oblivious. 982 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 5: I proceeded to ask him if he was thinking that 983 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 5: that was okay to ask a coworker, showing him the 984 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 5: pick of the conversation with the you thing mind you. 985 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 5: I also found a message a bit later saying jokes aside, 986 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 5: when are we getting together? 987 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: Note together as a couple. 988 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 5: The coworker just said this was so random, as the 989 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 5: previous message was okay, just put. 990 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: A meeting whenever, blah blah blah. 991 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 5: I was already finding the previous message is hurtful, but 992 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,320 Speaker 5: this one is out of the world. In what universe 993 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 5: would you say that to someone else other than your partner. 994 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 5: So we talked a lot, like three hours the first time, 995 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,720 Speaker 5: then again for one hour and more in the evening. 996 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 5: Basically the whole day. He repeated a huge amount of 997 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 5: times that there was nothing going on physically or mentally, 998 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 5: and that he wasn't interested in her at all, and 999 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 5: he loves me and only me, he said the first message, 1000 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 5: telling her that she's beautiful is because she has self 1001 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,959 Speaker 5: esteem problems and is off and down. 1002 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 1: So as his favorite coworker, there are only three I know. 1003 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 5: The other one is a jack butt and his boss. 1004 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 5: He just was trying to make her feel better. He 1005 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 5: also added later that it's his first coworker of his age. 1006 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 5: Before he was only working with older people, so it 1007 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 5: was new and fun to have someone similar, but that 1008 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 5: as he's a bit awkward with social interactions, he understood 1009 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 5: that he messed up. I mean, I let that one 1010 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 5: go anyway. So moving on second message, he said that 1011 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 5: it was joke. Sometimes he says something like this to 1012 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 5: pick on her and see the reaction. Now, for him, 1013 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,320 Speaker 5: it was okay because there were no intentions underneath whatsoever, 1014 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 5: and that she knows it's a. 1015 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 1: Joke because she laughs every time. 1016 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 5: They also joke a lot at the office with everybody 1017 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 5: and anybody, so for him, it was just the continuation 1018 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 5: of that. 1019 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 1: As far as I'm concerned, joking at the office is okay. 1020 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 5: I do the same, but it's different when it's in 1021 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 5: private messages with just two people. He also said that 1022 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,919 Speaker 5: I'm missing context because they mainly text before and after 1023 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 5: of the days that they are at the office, which 1024 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 5: is two days a week, and that might be a 1025 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 5: reference to something that they said earlier. They don't text 1026 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 5: every day, sometimes not even once in a week. That's true, 1027 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 5: or it has been deleted, but this would be a 1028 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 5: tedious work. So that's how we explained the when will 1029 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 5: we be together thing. He says that he doesn't even 1030 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 5: remember it, but he guesses something related was told during 1031 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 5: the day and that's why it came so randomly in 1032 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 5: the conversation. He promised me that this would never happen again, 1033 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 5: and that he wouldn't speak to the coworker other than 1034 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 5: for work, and that I was all that mattered. He 1035 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 5: also texted her, although I didn't want to, to clarify 1036 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 5: that there was nothing on his side, and then it 1037 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:34,720 Speaker 5: was jokes. 1038 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: Of course. 1039 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 5: She replied that she knew it was jokes and she's 1040 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 5: very happy with her husband and I don't need to 1041 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 5: be worried. I don't like the way she answered, though, 1042 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 5: she was really dismissive, like it's not a big deal 1043 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 5: and there's no need to think about breaking up or anything. 1044 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 5: Even if she understood it could have been taken. 1045 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: The wrong way. 1046 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,760 Speaker 5: I don't have a good feeling about her as a person. 1047 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,839 Speaker 5: I don't know why I don't care about her. I'm 1048 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 5: hurt by my husband, but the fact that it's only 1049 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 5: them to in the conversation and none of them realize 1050 00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,760 Speaker 5: it's inappropriate is bs. 1051 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: I brought up his. 1052 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 5: Previous relationship and questioned the person who cheated. He looked legit, hurt, 1053 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 5: and proposed that I call. 1054 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: The X to check who cheated on who. 1055 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 5: I believe now there was no actual cheating involved. He's 1056 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 5: always home, they do work at noon, but I'm still 1057 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 5: on the fence. He says there are no grounds in 1058 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 5: what he said and that he doesn't have bad intentions 1059 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,800 Speaker 5: when messaging those things. He says that he's not interested 1060 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 5: in a woman who isn't vegan because we are, and 1061 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,439 Speaker 5: that he wouldn't plan big things with me et cetera, 1062 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 5: like we have a huge trip coming up, or work 1063 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 5: on making the relationship evolve even more if he was 1064 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 5: interested in someone else. He says that he realizes now 1065 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 5: that he effed up. Although I believe there was no 1066 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 5: actual cheating, I still don't think what happened is okay. 1067 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 5: I think it's rude to me and inappropriate on so 1068 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 5: many levels. I feel betrayed because those things should not 1069 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 5: be said to anyone but me. 1070 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 1: That makes sense. 1071 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 5: At first, he wouldn't understand what I was saying and 1072 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 5: always brought it back to the cheating part. After so 1073 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 5: many you don't understand. I think he got it because 1074 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 5: he explained it again to me with his own words, 1075 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,320 Speaker 5: what I I was trying to say to him. He 1076 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 5: promised again that it would not happen again in the future. 1077 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,720 Speaker 5: I asked him what if I saw that to a coworker, 1078 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 5: and he agreed that he wouldn't have appreciated it. 1079 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 1: I said that I was still hurt. 1080 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 5: He acknowledged that and realized it was wrong, but he 1081 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 5: said that he couldn't change the past and could only 1082 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 5: work to make me forgive him if I let him. 1083 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 5: I underlined the fact that having been cheated on before, 1084 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 5: he should have been even more aware of what this 1085 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 5: could cause, and he agreed. 1086 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 1: He's just agreed to get out of this conversation. 1087 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 6: Possibly I'm just saying whatever he can to get out 1088 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 6: of this conversation. 1089 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's flirting with another woman more than once. Yeah. 1090 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 1: Is he honest or am I just blindsided? What do 1091 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 1: you think of this? How do I get past this. 1092 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 5: We slept apart and I asked for a day to myself, 1093 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 5: though I can think, but stranger's input is valuable to me. 1094 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 5: Thank you for your support and previous answers already and 1095 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,800 Speaker 5: we do have a second up day good and not 1096 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 5: so good ahead, all right, So I took some time 1097 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 5: to myself those past two days, was no contact with 1098 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 5: him to think about it. Yesterday we talked it all 1099 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 5: out again with most of your points. I told him 1100 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,360 Speaker 5: that whether he realizes it or not, it was florided. 1101 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 5: He was caught and for me, it was a form 1102 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 5: of cheating. He insisted that it wasn't what he was 1103 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 5: going for, but accepted my view. He has no choice anyway. 1104 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 5: He explained that he didn't want to be dismissive at 1105 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 5: the beginning, but as he was taken him back. This 1106 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 5: was his initial reaction, but reflecting on it, he understands 1107 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 5: how bad it is. I also pointed out the half 1108 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 5: budded excuses such as we're both vegan or we have 1109 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 5: things planned. He understood, but added that since we know 1110 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 5: each other, he always mentioned hating one night stands or 1111 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 5: meaningless spicy sleep, which is true. It doesn't help much, 1112 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 5: but at least he's nothing but consistent. I told him 1113 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 5: I didn't believe his coworker at all and thought that 1114 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,320 Speaker 5: she was just fishing for some compliments, et cetera, and 1115 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 5: that she probably knew what she was doing. 1116 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 1: We will come back on that later. 1117 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 5: I told him the trust was broken and I didn't 1118 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 5: want to be paranoid every single time he's going to 1119 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 5: the office, so we promised several things, and I'll list 1120 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 5: them below. I also asked him if it was an 1121 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 5: attention issue. He thought about it, but it doesn't think 1122 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 5: it is. He says that he has enough for me 1123 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 5: and that that's all that matters. He said that he 1124 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 5: went online to try to find some clarity and help 1125 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 5: and realized what he said was completely out of line, 1126 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 5: but again it was too late, so all he could 1127 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,399 Speaker 5: do was work on getting back my trust every single day. 1128 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 5: He said that he tried to find why he would 1129 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,399 Speaker 5: do this, but couldn't really find an answer. The only 1130 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 5: thing he could think of is that he's awkward socially, 1131 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 5: which is true, and that he never had a female 1132 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 5: friend before, so maybe he talked to her like he 1133 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,799 Speaker 5: talked to any other girl, except he was pursuing all 1134 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,840 Speaker 5: the other girls, so the convos shouldn't have. 1135 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,880 Speaker 1: Been the same. I know it's a stretch. 1136 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 5: I told him if we were going to try to 1137 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 5: work through it, it was a one time thing and 1138 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 5: I would not tolerate another debacle like this, and he agreed. 1139 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 5: As he and her said the department was joking like 1140 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 5: that all the time. I asked who else he was 1141 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 5: talking to you like that, But he only spoke to 1142 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 5: that colleague on social media, so I cannot compare because 1143 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 5: the others are men. 1144 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: So even if he did, I doubt I would have 1145 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 1: found something. I said. 1146 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,240 Speaker 5: I was thinking about meeting the coworker plus her husband 1147 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 5: to talk it out. I decided not to do it 1148 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 5: because of what's next. Finally, I asked to read the 1149 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 5: whole conversation. This is where it's bad, you guys. 1150 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 1: I felt like I was reading a tender conversation. 1151 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 5: Nothing was okay since the beginning that they started talking, 1152 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 5: but it only came from him. Actually, the coworker looked 1153 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 5: like she was avoiding answering and would emoji laugh to 1154 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 5: avoid being rude or something. And I now don't think 1155 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 5: that she was fishing for something. That was yet another 1156 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 5: hurtful experience. I must add that he went low contact 1157 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 5: several times during the year two and she was the 1158 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 5: one coming back, like it's been a while, you don't 1159 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,800 Speaker 5: talk to me anymore, et cetera. But again she was 1160 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 5: not inappropriate. So I showed him along the way all 1161 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 5: the inappropriate messages. Some were small, others bigger, but I 1162 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,319 Speaker 5: found around twenty inappropriate messages over the last year. More 1163 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 5: I went on, the more he was breaking down. By 1164 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 5: the end, he was crying because he said that he 1165 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 5: just wanted to be nice and supportive, and nobody ever 1166 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,479 Speaker 5: told him that it was inappropriate before. 1167 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 1: He looked truly pained. 1168 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 5: Anyhow, if we want to have any kind of chance 1169 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 5: to salvage the relationship, I asked what he would put 1170 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,320 Speaker 5: in place. So he decided he won't speak to the 1171 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 5: coworker anymore, sent her a text to let her know 1172 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 5: that contact was done so she wouldn't reach out. Goes 1173 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 5: to the office twice a week. He has one day 1174 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 5: on site mandatory, but can choose the other one, so 1175 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 5: he will go a day that she's not there. I 1176 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 5: get full access to his phone, and he gave me 1177 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,880 Speaker 5: access to his tablet as well. He offered to put 1178 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 5: a tracker in his phone so I could see conversations live. 1179 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 5: No afterworks it was already the case. But also he 1180 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 5: would never leave home late, and if it happened, he 1181 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,880 Speaker 5: would send and proof for something. We booked an appointment 1182 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 5: for a couple of therapy, and he will also go 1183 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 5: by himself. What is hard is when I speak with him, 1184 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 5: he seems true and genuine. So either he's honest or 1185 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 5: he's a masterclass actor. And I still have a doubt 1186 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,880 Speaker 5: scepth that he never gave me any reason to doubt him. 1187 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 5: I can't throw the last five years that were good 1188 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 5: without giving him the benefit of the doubt once. I 1189 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 5: also found here on Reddit posts of guys flirting who 1190 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 5: had no intention to cheat. The comments were also going like, 1191 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,760 Speaker 5: I'd be your girlfriend, I would never believe you, et cetera. 1192 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 5: But Opie's it don't have a reason to lie here, 1193 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,880 Speaker 5: so I guess in some rare situations it can happen anyway. 1194 00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,800 Speaker 5: He said it was an electro shock, and he just 1195 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,279 Speaker 5: wanted the chance to prove to me that he's fully 1196 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 5: dedicated to the relationship and will work to gain back 1197 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 5: my trust. He said the past couple of years counted, 1198 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 5: and that he hopes that I can give him a 1199 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 5: chance based on what we already lived together and the 1200 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 5: adjustments we made in order to go further. 1201 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 1: I want to give him a chance. 1202 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 5: So I will monitor the situation in the next weeks 1203 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 5: and months, and I, of course will keep you updated 1204 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:20,920 Speaker 5: on if it was a good decision or not. 1205 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 1: Any new thoughts are also welcome. I think, maybe leave him. 1206 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,280 Speaker 1: Maybe leave him because I don't like how you're being Ope. 1207 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, this is a toxic, codependent relationship that I don't know. 1208 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 1: It's not healthy for either of you. 1209 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, get some more evidence played out, get evidence, see 1210 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 6: what he's doing, and then probably I don't know. Yeah, 1211 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,839 Speaker 6: little pow, put some food in it, wrap it up, 1212 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,319 Speaker 6: get a stick and walk on out. 1213 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,040 Speaker 2: Hey, it's John here. We're gonna get back to the stories. 1214 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 2: Put a quick three minute ad break from our sponsors 1215 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:46,919 Speaker 2: that keep the show going. 1216 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,359 Speaker 4: My wife has full control of our finances and it's 1217 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 4: ruining our marriage. 1218 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,840 Speaker 1: The women should never be in charge of the money. 1219 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,280 Speaker 4: In the early days of our relationship, I felt deeply 1220 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 4: in love. We move between different countries together, traveled twenty 1221 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 4: some odd countries and many dozens of cities. We built 1222 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,240 Speaker 4: a family and shared years of experiences. There were challenges, 1223 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 4: but I believed in our partnership and love. I sacrificed 1224 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 4: for our family, took on jobs abroad, accepted risk, poured 1225 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 4: myself into parenting, and worked irelessly to. 1226 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: Build a better life. 1227 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,120 Speaker 4: By the way, this comes from Softburry eight four six one, 1228 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 4: and if you want to submit your own stories, go 1229 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 4: to the r slash Okay. Storytime suppered, but over time 1230 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 4: the fractures deepened. The first major blow was discovering that 1231 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,240 Speaker 4: she had lied about a trip to Vancouver and stayed 1232 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 4: with an ex boyfriend. 1233 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:31,360 Speaker 1: Yikes. 1234 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,279 Speaker 4: I only found out because her friend she claimed to 1235 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,880 Speaker 4: be traveling with had no idea about the trip. It 1236 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 4: wasn't even good. Lot later I found phone calls to 1237 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 4: her ex at three am. The ex lived in Vancouver. 1238 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,280 Speaker 4: It shattered something in me. You denied it for years 1239 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 4: until I caught her cheating again, this time emotionally and 1240 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,800 Speaker 4: possibly more with a man from her home town. I 1241 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 4: only found out because she was constantly on her phone 1242 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,359 Speaker 4: and I saw her sweet carrying messages to him while 1243 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 4: I was suffering from a migraine at home. I signed 1244 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 4: into her social aw my lap and read everything. I 1245 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 4: confronted her. She denied, minimized, promised to stop, and broke 1246 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 4: those promises again and again, while getting sneakier hiding it. 1247 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:10,440 Speaker 1: I told her to leave. 1248 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,800 Speaker 4: Her mom, who was staying with us, found at the details, 1249 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,680 Speaker 4: also told her to leave. Came back a day later, 1250 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 4: the kids neath her mommy, she pleaded. Even after all that, 1251 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,480 Speaker 4: I tried to stay for the kids, for the hope 1252 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 4: that we could repair what had been broken. But every 1253 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 4: time I reached out emotionally, I was met with coldness, 1254 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,280 Speaker 4: on ascension or rejection. 1255 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,840 Speaker 1: My interests like music were mocked or dismissed. 1256 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,399 Speaker 4: She said she hated the guitar. She left the room 1257 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,360 Speaker 4: when I sang. She got upset when I planned to 1258 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 4: buy myself a new, used guitar for an amount that 1259 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 4: was about five to six percent of my monthly income. 1260 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 4: She claimed that she didn't spend money on herself except 1261 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,880 Speaker 4: her tennis rackets, her excessive solo travel, and her leisure. 1262 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,440 Speaker 4: I had to ask permission for simple things like buying 1263 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 4: a secondhand amp or supplements for exercise. Meanwhile, she'd spend 1264 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 4: freely and justified as not spending much on herself most 1265 00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 4: days it feels like I'm doing the parenting on my own. 1266 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 4: Up the boys, make breakfast, get them ready, take them 1267 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 4: to school, handle homework, bedtime routines the day in day 1268 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 4: out of raising kids. I potty train them, taught them 1269 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,280 Speaker 4: to read, taught them to ride bikes. I build legos 1270 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,719 Speaker 4: with them, game with them, read to them. I take 1271 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,360 Speaker 4: them for ice cream and barbecue and Friday hot chocolate 1272 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 4: at the school cafe. When they need direction or discipline. 1273 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 4: I'm the one who steps in, who's present, but more 1274 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 4: like background noise than a co parent. She says that 1275 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 4: because she gave birth, she's already done her part. She cooks, 1276 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 4: does laundry, and takes pride and keeping our home clean, 1277 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 4: but not without assistance. I scrub pots and pans daily, 1278 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 4: set and clean the dining table, et cetera. I ensure 1279 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 4: the kids tidy up most of their messes, organize their 1280 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,240 Speaker 4: library and such. We have a dishwasher, robot, vacuum, mop, washer, dryer, 1281 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,239 Speaker 4: and she hires a cleaner once or twice a month 1282 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,479 Speaker 4: for deep clean. But I work full time and still 1283 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 4: shoulder most of the emotional labor and physical tasks of parenting. Meanwhile, 1284 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 4: she has most of the day to herself, going to yoga, dance, tennis, 1285 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,279 Speaker 4: painting at home in her art studio room. Will I 1286 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 4: grind through work and then come home to a second shift. 1287 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 4: And when she's not around, it's not just for a 1288 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:04,759 Speaker 4: few hours. She's away, traveling solo for weeks at a time, 1289 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,320 Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty days without the kids and me 1290 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 4: in the last twenty months. Dude, that's like almost half 1291 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 4: of the year she's away. Yeah, Okay, at this point, 1292 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,359 Speaker 4: you really, I mean, she's controlling your finances, she's doing 1293 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 4: nothing for the kids. So are you really even dang 1294 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 4: for the kids at this point? Yeah? And I'm here 1295 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 4: and trying to be everything, provider, protect her present father. 1296 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,239 Speaker 4: I took one week away for myself in that same 1297 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 4: twenty month span, plus three work trips of three days each. 1298 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,719 Speaker 4: I'm often invited to speak out conferences. During the one 1299 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,759 Speaker 4: week I was away, she flew her mother down from 1300 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,360 Speaker 4: the other side of the country to help her with 1301 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,239 Speaker 4: the kids. I brought them along to one of my 1302 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 4: work trips for travel. I don't mind being the study one. 1303 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,360 Speaker 4: I love my boys deeply, but I'm tired, not just 1304 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,240 Speaker 4: from the load, but from the loneliness of parenting, besides 1305 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,400 Speaker 4: someone who doesn't seem to want to share the journey. 1306 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,719 Speaker 4: I create an environment where learning, consistency, and affection go 1307 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 4: hand in hand. When she's home, it feels like a 1308 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 4: completely different household. 1309 00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,840 Speaker 1: Then split up. Do you usually sleeps in? 1310 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 4: Lets them play on the iPad or Xbox all day 1311 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,720 Speaker 4: if I don't make them stop, says she doesn't believe 1312 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,320 Speaker 4: in homer, or at least not enforcing it herself, And 1313 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 4: on a few days where she has had to take 1314 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,719 Speaker 4: them to school, she just doesn't. She allows them to 1315 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,320 Speaker 4: miss school if she doesn't feel like handling the morning. 1316 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,799 Speaker 1: The kids know this. If she does intervene, she gives 1317 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,279 Speaker 1: up quickly. Today I told the kids fifteen. 1318 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,840 Speaker 4: More minutes of screen time and went to have a 1319 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 4: warm bath to soothe my back because I fractured it 1320 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,279 Speaker 4: two months ago. I came up forty minutes later. She 1321 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,000 Speaker 4: was on the bed and the kids were still playing. 1322 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 4: Why are the boys still playing games? I asked, I 1323 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 4: don't know. I told them to stop. You're blied without 1324 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,239 Speaker 4: looking up from her phone. Her style is permissive and disengaged. 1325 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,360 Speaker 4: It leaves me feeling like I must always be the 1326 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,960 Speaker 4: one to discipline, structure, and uplift. Often with no backup. 1327 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 4: I'm the fun one and the strict one. I seldom 1328 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,759 Speaker 4: get breaks. There's no day off from parenting. But I 1329 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 4: take pride to the fact that I can and do 1330 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 4: handle it all. 1331 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,920 Speaker 1: Handle it away from her. If you divorce her, you 1332 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:55,240 Speaker 1: have the financial freedom. 1333 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:55,439 Speaker 6: Again. 1334 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,520 Speaker 1: She has to provide child support because she's not going 1335 00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:58,399 Speaker 1: to take care of the kids. 1336 00:54:58,520 --> 00:54:59,880 Speaker 4: And you can prove that to the court and say 1337 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:01,880 Speaker 4: I want full custody of these kids because she's not 1338 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,759 Speaker 4: here at all, right, and in you can set and 1339 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 4: you could show all the days that the kids have 1340 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,360 Speaker 4: missed and been like, this is what she was supposed 1341 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,360 Speaker 4: to take them exactly, not taking them to school. 1342 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, it made like, you know, we didn't You couldn't 1343 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 5: call the doctor or something like that and be like, yeah, 1344 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 5: see we didn't even call in Like it's not like 1345 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:18,600 Speaker 5: they were sick or something. 1346 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,400 Speaker 1: Nope, they were just missing this. They just missed. They 1347 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 1: just missed. 1348 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 4: And she's gone one hundred and twenty days a year. Yeah, 1349 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 4: you know, you have probably had proof of all of this. Yeah, 1350 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,400 Speaker 4: it's pointless, But I take pride to the fact that 1351 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,200 Speaker 4: I can and do handle it all. I'm present, consistent, 1352 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,800 Speaker 4: and fully committed to raising our sons with love and values. 1353 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 4: I don't need help. I just need her to stop 1354 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,799 Speaker 4: undermining what I build every day. Last weekend, everything boiled over. 1355 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 4: I finally laid out the four main problems that I've 1356 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:48,280 Speaker 4: been corroding our relationship. No financial transparency or access. Several 1357 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,320 Speaker 4: years ago, I made some poor financial decisions involving crypto 1358 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,280 Speaker 4: and an eight K line of credit, which I mishandled 1359 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:55,280 Speaker 4: and initially. 1360 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 1: Hid, damaging her dress. Not great dude. 1361 00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,920 Speaker 4: Since then, she's insisted on full control of our finance, 1362 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,960 Speaker 4: is threatening not to bring our kids to live with 1363 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 4: me when I got an unless I agreed. For the 1364 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,719 Speaker 4: past four years, I've sent her ninety percent of my 1365 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:11,320 Speaker 4: income without any access, oversight, or knowledge of our financial situation, 1366 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 4: despite consistently being the. 1367 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 1: Sole earner and contributor. 1368 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,120 Speaker 4: No one to miss you or spicy connection once or 1369 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,319 Speaker 4: twice per year for the last seven years. Too much 1370 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 4: solo travel, unemployment, and total freedom over her time. After 1371 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 4: breaking trust in past, why am I the only one 1372 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,840 Speaker 4: paying for failures? Her response was dismissive and venomous. You 1373 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,799 Speaker 4: want me to get a job, let you access the money, 1374 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,839 Speaker 4: travel us and have spicy sleep with you. I'd rather 1375 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,719 Speaker 4: pass away. This is how you treat women. And then 1376 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,719 Speaker 4: she threw a bottle across the room. Now I'm emotionally 1377 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,279 Speaker 4: prepared for divorce. It's not a threat, it's not a 1378 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,919 Speaker 4: bargaining chip. It's a direction one I need to take 1379 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 4: to protect my sense of self, my emotional well being, 1380 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 4: and my son's future stability. What I want from divorce 1381 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,040 Speaker 4: full legal and physical custody of our sons, with visitation 1382 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 4: rights granted her on a reasonable structured basis, I e. 1383 00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,920 Speaker 4: Whenever she wants, with reasonable note not as long as 1384 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,720 Speaker 4: it isn't disrupting the kids' lives. I will be fully 1385 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:10,120 Speaker 4: financially responsible for our sons. That includes their private school tuition, clothing, food, insurance, extracurriculars, 1386 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 4: and anything. 1387 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:11,239 Speaker 1: Else they need. 1388 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,000 Speaker 4: I will waive my right to child support from her. 1389 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:17,080 Speaker 4: I will not pay alimony. Our financial independence must be mutual, 1390 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 4: and I'm paying for the kids. I propose we split 1391 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,960 Speaker 4: our current finances equally, but truthfully, she can keep it 1392 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,000 Speaker 4: all if it means peace. 1393 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:24,040 Speaker 1: I can always earn more. 1394 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,480 Speaker 4: What I can't afford anymore is the emotional cost of 1395 00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,720 Speaker 4: keeping this marriage alive. All I want is for this 1396 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 4: to be over, for her to be gone, for our 1397 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,320 Speaker 4: home to be peaceful, for my sons to thrive in 1398 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:38,000 Speaker 4: a space filled with consistency, love and boundaries, not tension, 1399 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,200 Speaker 4: avoidance and apathy. I'm not seeking revenge. I'm not even 1400 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:41,920 Speaker 4: angry anymore. 1401 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 1: I'm just done. Am I the ale and there is 1402 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:45,320 Speaker 1: an update. 1403 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,800 Speaker 4: I'm looking for a local lawyer that can handle transnational divorce. 1404 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 4: I've also been developing a paper trail, particularly in relation 1405 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 4: to my children. I am the default parents. Their mom 1406 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,720 Speaker 4: has missed one of two PTC meetings at school last year, 1407 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 4: and I have her text saying she doesn't want to go. 1408 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 4: You can tell me about it at home later. You 1409 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 4: also missed their student lend conference last week. I asked 1410 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,400 Speaker 4: her an hour before, and she told me next time, 1411 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 4: tell me earlier. I'm doing laundry, which can't be done 1412 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,960 Speaker 4: any other time. It has to be done right. 1413 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 1: Now, right. I mean they'll get wrinkled, and I freaking 1414 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:16,920 Speaker 1: bet it's. 1415 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 4: Just her laundry, honestly, honestly that despite several messages from 1416 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:27,000 Speaker 4: school and teacher, he doesn't bother to check school communications 1417 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 4: because I do it all. 1418 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 1: He's traveling again this week to see a friend in 1419 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 1: another city. Leaves tomorrow. 1420 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 4: We'll be back early Wednesday to attend the school concert 1421 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,400 Speaker 4: where my children will perform. If I hadn't told her 1422 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,400 Speaker 4: about it, she would know. She's been Addley's speek with 1423 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:42,200 Speaker 4: me lately, suspicious. Maybe she's catching on. Probably she probably 1424 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 4: knows that she messed up, and she's like, oh no, 1425 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,240 Speaker 4: he's gonna leave me and take all the money. Yeah, 1426 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 4: that's supplying my lifestyle. 1427 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,000 Speaker 1: So I'll just like travel all the time, act the 1428 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,000 Speaker 1: part a little bit, so like I get you to stay. 1429 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,920 Speaker 1: Don't trust her, girl, don't dang girl, as in okay. 1430 00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like she wants to be like that typic 1431 00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 5: fifties thing where like, you know, the husband take cares 1432 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,400 Speaker 5: of the finances and the woman doesn't have to work. 1433 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,840 Speaker 5: But it's like, but she's not doing it, Like yeah, yeah, 1434 00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,720 Speaker 5: she's still housewive stuff, right, Like you gotta still contribute 1435 00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,960 Speaker 5: in taking care of our living, breathing children. 1436 00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,640 Speaker 1: You up, we're just doing literally anything at all. 1437 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, And honestly, like that would be a really good 1438 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,360 Speaker 5: thing to teach the kids too, like by just getting 1439 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,680 Speaker 5: divorced with this woman, because if she is letting them 1440 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,840 Speaker 5: skip school and not do homework and stuff, then they're 1441 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,600 Speaker 5: learning from that. Yeah, but if he is like, well, 1442 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,120 Speaker 5: this is like if they later find out like, hey, 1443 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,800 Speaker 5: I literally divorced your mom because she wasn't doing that, Yeah, 1444 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,840 Speaker 5: you guys can't get away in life. 1445 00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,080 Speaker 1: With doing that, like exactly. You know, folks, that's the 1446 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:39,960 Speaker 1: end of that story. 1447 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:40,520 Speaker 4: It is