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Speaker 1: Live Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you as we round

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Speaker 1: to collision players of this ability at the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: If you are facing two unicorns that you have no

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Speaker 1: athletic answer for, then you must be physical. That's the alternative.

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Speaker 1: So if you don't have anybody that's a good coverage

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Speaker 1: option for either of those players hit him at the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, at least reroute them, at least disrupt

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Speaker 1: the timing of the play for them. Most passing games

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Speaker 1: in this league are based on timing. And if you

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Speaker 1: can disrupt them at the line of scrimmage, which you're

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Speaker 1: allowed to do all the way to five yards down

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Speaker 1: the field, I mean without totally bear hugging them and

437
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Speaker 1: tackling them, you can do whatever you want. I don't

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Speaker 1: know why you don't try to reroute those guys, collision

439
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Speaker 1: them at the line, just get in their face and

440
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 1: forced them to take more time to get off. Now,

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Speaker 1: if they're an expert release guy, as Steve has mentioned

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Speaker 1: on the show this week, well then that might present

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Speaker 1: a different set of problems. But Travis Kelsey is not

444
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Speaker 1: a sudden athlete. He's unusually athletic for a tall tight end,

445
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Speaker 1: but he's not a sudden explosive athlete. Collision him at

446
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Speaker 1: the line, I don't understand why he was given free

447
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Speaker 1: releases time and time and time again. Trek Hill might

448
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Speaker 1: be a different situation. He is very elusive as he

449
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Speaker 1: can also go in motion, So if you're gonna chuck

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Speaker 1: him here, he runs across the line of scrimmage. How

451
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Speaker 1: are you gonna chuck him at the other side if

452
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Speaker 1: he's moving when the ball, he's a little bit more

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Speaker 1: difficult to answer to. That's a different question. But if

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Speaker 1: Kelsey's standing there with his hand on the ground and

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Speaker 1: at the end of the line of scrimmage, I picked somebody,

456
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Speaker 1: I put either either Milano or Edmonds on him and

457
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Speaker 1: just bear hugged that guy and wash him down into

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Speaker 1: the line. If you can push him right into the

459
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Speaker 1: offensive line, just drive him back, do something, get him

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Speaker 1: off off his mark. But there's I don't know, um

461
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Speaker 1: maybe they don't know if they could get it done.

462
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Speaker 1: Plus they can answer that too. They can put him

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Speaker 1: out to the boundary, and then you're you're stuck with

464
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Speaker 1: the same thing. What are you gonna do. You're you're

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Speaker 1: gonna run somebody out there, And then once he does

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Speaker 1: get off the line, you've got to you know, like

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Speaker 1: Edmonds out there or somebody out there in zone that's

468
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Speaker 1: in space and it's not where you want him to be. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so then they've got you after that. So you know,

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Speaker 1: they're not saying answers. I just wish they would have

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Speaker 1: turned to that as a possible solution and then if

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Speaker 1: it doesn't work, okay, try something else. And they never

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Speaker 1: did it. If he every time, you could have a

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Speaker 1: standing rule on the defense wherever Kelsey is a standing rule.

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Speaker 1: When he's on the end of the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 1: with his hand on the ground, you bang him into

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Speaker 1: the tackle. Because they never did that with Gronk for

478
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Speaker 1: so many years playing him when he was with the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: I know I told you this earlier in the week

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Speaker 1: when me and Mark Kelso used to do pregame radio

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Speaker 1: every week. Kelso would say, we got a collision. This

482
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Speaker 1: every week we played the Patriots, got a collision. The

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Speaker 1: guy at the line of scrimmage, hit him at the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, reroute him. Just delay the timing of

485
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Speaker 1: the route for half a second and it could make

486
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Speaker 1: could be the difference between him catching a pass or

487
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady having a run out of the pocket and

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Speaker 1: buy time. And he and I thought he was right.

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Speaker 1: And and for some reason for years this has not

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Speaker 1: been um don't tactic. You don't see it, dude. You

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Speaker 1: don't see teams do it with with uh Kelsey. You

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Speaker 1: don't see him do it with George Kittle. You don't

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Speaker 1: see him doing it. I don't know why. There just

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Speaker 1: gotta be a reason. I'm gonna ask. I'm gonna ask

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Speaker 1: somebody who's smarter than me, who coaches, please, why that is? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And I know maybe it's just too easy to answer it,

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Speaker 1: you know, But I've seen this too with Romeo Cornell

498
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Speaker 1: did it, and so did the Patriots. And Romo Canell

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Speaker 1: did it when he was with the Houston Texans as

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Speaker 1: their defensive coordinator. I think it was the first time around.

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Speaker 1: And then I saw the Patriots do the exact same

502
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Speaker 1: thing with Tony Gonzalez as a tight end. They treat

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Speaker 1: him like a it was a pump return, like like

504
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Speaker 1: I used to get double team. Do you have a

505
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Speaker 1: guy on the inside gannhi outside and they're just there

506
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Speaker 1: to stop you on the in the red zone. They

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Speaker 1: would do that to Tony Gonzalez. They put two guys

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Speaker 1: and they just hold him right there. They wouldn't let

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Speaker 1: him leave. They just stuff him right at the line

510
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Speaker 1: of scrimmage. Well, you took your best red zone weapon

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Speaker 1: off the page. Now you do what you can with

512
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Speaker 1: the rest of that stuff. But if, but if your

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Speaker 1: quarterback is gonna do this he's looking for his number

514
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: one guy. He's like, where are you? What's going on?

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Speaker 1: And by that time everything else has taken place. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's he's got less time to go to his second

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Speaker 1: or third option. So I've seen people do it, albeit

518
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Speaker 1: only in the red zone. But but man, oh man, yeah,

519
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: you'd like to see it. I just try it. If

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Speaker 1: it doesn't work, it doesn't work. I'm with you, Mike, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. You're speaking my language. Let's go back

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Speaker 1: to the phones. We go to Mark in Buffalo, Mark,

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Speaker 1: what do you have for us? You're on one, Bill's

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Speaker 1: live hold on. I put you on lock there. There

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Speaker 1: you go? Are you there? Mike yep? Um, yeah, Mike's

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Speaker 1: right on with that whole thing. At the very least

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Speaker 1: you do that on third down, I would think. So

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Speaker 1: I don't get it either. UM. I have a question

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Speaker 1: for Steve and I have an opinion about yesterday's topic

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Speaker 1: about Sean Watson. Yeah, real quick, now the season's over. Um.

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Speaker 1: I believe that this team is gonna have a swagger

532
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Speaker 1: next year, that they're gonna really be really hard to beat.

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Speaker 1: They've gone from thinking are we good? Are we that good?

534
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Speaker 1: We think we're that good too. Now they know they're

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Speaker 1: that good, and I think they're gonna have a everybody's

536
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Speaker 1: gonna have a real tough time beating them next year.

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Speaker 1: And for Steve, when did that happen? I'm pretty I'm

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00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: I think I'm right in assuming this. When did that happen?

539
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Speaker 1: For the Super Bowl teams? I'm sure that happened for

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Speaker 1: those guys too. And the Shaun Watson deal um to me.

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Speaker 1: If I'm Jacksonville, I'm all over that. To me, that

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Speaker 1: makes the most sense. Jacksonville can accelerate the rebuild buy

543
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: up to three years by going after Deshaun. And on

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Speaker 1: the other side, for Houston, I think Trevor Lawrence is

545
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: a lot more attractive than either Sam Donald or two,

546
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Speaker 1: which inevitably I believe would have to be part of

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Speaker 1: a trade. So let's wondering what you guys thought of that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you? Yeah, the Deshaun Watson trade talks and what

549
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: the teams can package. There's a couple of teams that

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Speaker 1: need a quarterback, that have a lot of capital to

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00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: invest in it that would make it enticing for the

552
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Speaker 1: Houston Texas say yeah, because that would, believe me, trading

553
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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson in this day and right now, at the

554
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Speaker 1: height of what he's doing. To me, is the fastest

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Speaker 1: way for the Houston franchise to rebuild because they'll get

556
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Speaker 1: they'll get like three ones and some players. You know,

557
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Speaker 1: they'll get a boatload of assets that they don't have

558
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: right now. They'll get they'll get back into the draft

559
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: this year, they'll get back into the draft next year.

560
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: They'll it'll give him some relief on their cap because

561
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Speaker 1: I have a bunch of guy, young guys on rookie contracts.

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Speaker 1: I just I just think it's the fastest way for

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Speaker 1: Houston to do it. But you know, guys like Dashaun

564
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: are hard to find. I mean, who knows better than

565
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: the Bills, So to get rid of him and it's

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Speaker 1: a huge step. But yeah, they're gonna get a boatload

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Speaker 1: back for him, and I think whichever team whose package

568
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Speaker 1: they like the best is gonna have to pay handsomely. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I just gotta be honest, I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be Jacksonville because you're not trading him within your division.

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Speaker 1: Why would you do that to have to face him

572
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: twice a year as he's not even entered his prime yet.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the guy led the league in passing yards

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Speaker 1: on a four win football team. No way. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if I'm trading him in the conference,

576
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Speaker 1: let alone my division. That's just there's no way I'm

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Speaker 1: trading him to Jacksonville twice a year every year for

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Speaker 1: the next ten years. The team that has the best

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Speaker 1: shot at him to me, would be Carolina, right, NFC

580
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: club NF San Francisco is an option. Right, San Francisco

581
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: would be an option because San Francisco probably has enough

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Speaker 1: talent that they could throw in a player that's going

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00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: to help Houston right away and don't have to count

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Speaker 1: on rookie draft picks. And they have a lot of

585
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Speaker 1: young draft choices still on rookie contracts in their pipeline

586
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: right now, where if they don't have a couple of

587
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: top picks for the next year or two, it's not

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00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: going to completely submarine another for being competitive. Another club

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Speaker 1: that would really benefit from talking to them would be

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Speaker 1: a team like Chicago. They feel like a piece like

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Speaker 1: that would put them in another level in a in

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Speaker 1: a division with an aging Aaron Rodgers right where you've

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00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: got a chance to really make some hay an aging

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and a Matt Stafford that's not going to

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Speaker 1: exist in the division anymore. So Chicago would be another one,

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00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't. I'm with Brownie Deshaun Watson if I'm

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00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: now the Houston Texans have not been known in recent

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00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: years to do this smart thing. But you've got to

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00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: be thinking for the Texans that you know, even Dallas

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00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: would be a better deal because you trade Dak for DeShawn,

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Speaker 1: you get a guy that can play back, although you

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00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: have to sign him to a deal. Yeah, there's a

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00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: lot there, But I'm if I'm the Texans, DeShawn goes

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00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: no place except the NFC. Yeah, if anywhere at all,

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Speaker 1: because there are reports now that the Texans have no

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Speaker 1: interest in moving them at all. Whether that is the

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Speaker 1: end all be all, I think is going to be

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Speaker 1: a tough road to hope. We have to take a

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Speaker 1: break when we come back. More of your phone calls

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Speaker 1: at eight O three five fifty. The O. B. L.

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Speaker 1: call at eight three five fifty. Steve. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna reference that Hill Murray game because there's a

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Speaker 1: certain player who has decided to commemorate it in a

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Speaker 1: very interesting way that Bills fans may not exactly appreciate.

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Speaker 1: into those shortly, but we're going to go to the

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Speaker 1: phones first and leading us off this segment is Linda

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Speaker 1: on a cell. Linda, what do you have for us

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Speaker 1: here on One Bills Live. Hi, gentlemen, thanks for taking

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Speaker 1: my call. Just a few thoughts on on Sunday and

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Speaker 1: going forward. So I said to anybody who would listen

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Speaker 1: for the game, which was primarily my husband, that if

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Speaker 1: we were to stop Kansas City, we needed a big, fast,

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Speaker 1: guy to stop Kelsey wherever he was on the field.

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Speaker 1: So I know one of the topics this week was

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Speaker 1: what are the Bills primary objectives for the offseason, And

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Speaker 1: I think one of them should be to draft or

639
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: find a big, fast guy to take care of other

640
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: teams tight ends. And then the second thing that I

641
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: feel we need to do to get up to where

642
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: the level of Kansas City is is to get a

643
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: running game. Again. However, we do that not to the

644
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: exclusion of Josh Allen passing the ball, but by having

645
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: a running game, you have to respect the pass. And

646
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: what we saw in Kansas City was just Josh under pressure.

647
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: Josh under pressure because he was going back throwing, throwing,

648
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 1: and we just didn't seem to want to or could

649
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 1: or whatever to run the football. So so those are

650
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: my thoughts. And and I have another just random thought

651
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: about two up tagley Ball, And I know he's been

652
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: featured in some of the discussions this week. You know,

653
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: he had a really traumatic injury at the end of

654
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: you know, for his junior year, and you know, I

655
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 1: thought to myself at the time, you know, kid, just

656
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: stay in school, you know, be a senior. You know,

657
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 1: you know, practice your craft some more as a senior.

658
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: And so you know, when he came out and said, oh,

659
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: I want to be drafted as a junior, I was like, yeah,

660
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: And so sometimes I wonder the injury plus the you know,

661
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: being a younger draft pick, if that hasn't had something

662
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: to do with how his development has been. So those

663
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: are my my random thoughts. Go bills for next year,

664
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: and it's always good to hear you guys. All right,

665
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: thanks for the call in. Do we appreciate it? A

666
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: lot to unpack there, Steve. Let's go in reverse order here,

667
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: the too a conversation coming out junior year, coming off

668
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: a major injury. You know, good decision, bad decision. He's

669
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 1: starting in the NFL and he's making money for playing football.

670
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: So some would say, yeah, that's a good decision. Yeah,

671
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: he signed a deal that it made it so that

672
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: if the worst happens and he never plays another down,

673
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: he's yeah, can retire. You don't have that in college, right,

674
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: You're playing for a scholarship and not much more than that,

675
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: I would say, And there were some out there that

676
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: were openly wondering is to a fully healthy and recovered

677
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: from that hip injury, And let's not forget too. He's

678
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: had surgery on his ankle, that tight rope procedure done,

679
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: which was the same one that Zach Moss had here

680
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: at the end of the postseason with the ankle injury

681
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: he had, And you know, I guess you can make

682
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: the argument maybe he was not fully recovered, but looked

683
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: like he was moving around fine, didn't look inhibited by it.

684
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: Some people were of the opinion that with the hip problem,

685
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 1: he wasn't able to drive his hips into the throw

686
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: the way he usually does and maybe lost something off

687
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: his fastball. I don't know if that's true or not.

688
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 1: I haven't seen enough of him to know that from

689
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: his college ranks and comparing it to pro tape. But

690
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: the bottom line is players more often than not are

691
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: going to try to get their career started in a

692
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: year sooner rather than a year later because of the

693
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: earning power involved. Yeah, particularly if he's a top ten

694
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: pick or a top five pick'n he's gonna sign a

695
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: contract in the neighborhood of four or five years for

696
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: forty million dollars and he'll probably see most of it,

697
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: if not all of it. That's a hard thing to

698
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: look at your family in the face and say no,

699
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 1: we don't need that right now, right, We're gonna wait

700
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: on that. That's like saying no, win the I want

701
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: to win the lottery next year. It's just a hard

702
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 1: sell to a young player. I think the one thing

703
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: for me about Tuah, Yes, he was young coming out,

704
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: but he's mature two. His hip. Yeah, it was a concern.

705
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 1: It's a real concern because that was a real injury.

706
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't something you just shake off, and

707
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: that was a real it was a devastating injury. It's

708
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 1: hard to dislocate and hip. Yeah, and it's he's later

709
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: in life. He's gonna feel that no matter what, whether

710
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: he plays football again or not. That's coming back to

711
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: haunt him in later in life now. And lastly, Brownie

712
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: and I have been saying this a lot. He has

713
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: elite character, he's a great team an elite teammate, got

714
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: all that stuff. But that's where that ends. He's not

715
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: an elite arm he's not an elite athlete, and at

716
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: this point he's not an elite decision maker on the field,

717
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: and he certainly doesn't have the experience to make him

718
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: elite in any of those ways. Physically, he does not

719
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: tip the scales as a top five draft picks he has, Yeah,

720
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 1: he is not. He is not Josh Allen, Deshaun Watson.

721
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: He is not Lamar Jackson, Kyler Murray. He's not Kyler Murray.

722
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: You know, he doesn't have the arm that Russ Wilson has.

723
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: He doesn't have the size or strength that Ben Roethlisberger

724
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: has or any of those things. He's he's a smallish quarterback.

725
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 1: You know, he happens, you know, he's that's it. Played

726
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: at a great powerhouse conference and led a Team's a

727
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: great leader and all of that. He's got all the intangibles.

728
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: But he does not tip the scales physically and at

729
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: the level. And you can say what you want about

730
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: what that takes. You can, you know, power five conference

731
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: or whatever in the NFL. Your physical prowess means a lot.

732
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: What you're gifted with physically, your athleticism, your size, your strength,

733
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: your speed means a ton. If you don't have it,

734
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: you don't even get in the door. And the more

735
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: you have it, the more chances you're gonna get two

736
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: is does not tip the scales like that. Now, with

737
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: respect to the Bills run game, that Linda brought up

738
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 1: the problem was more often than not running on first down.

739
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: The Bills did not run a lot on first down

740
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: because they had problems doing it. They had problems being

741
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: effective running the football on first down for whatever reason. Now,

742
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: Mike Tanyer put together a fantastic write up on in

743
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: reviewing the Bills run game this week, and much like us,

744
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: he is not pinning it on the running backs. But

745
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 1: the Bills ranked twenty ninth in the league in first

746
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 1: down rushing average three point eight yards per carry. They

747
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: were even worse against eight and nine man boxes, which

748
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: is usually the case, but not to this degree. One

749
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: point three yards per carry against eight or nine man

750
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: defensive fronts. That was the worst figure in the league.

751
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: And then even their production against light boxes, they only

752
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 1: average three point three yards per carry. Now, in dicing

753
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: up the film, Mike discovered that a lot of their

754
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: runs against boxes were outside runs, off tackle, pitch plays,

755
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: all of that stuff. And when you have two running

756
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 1: backs who are not elite burners, when you have safeties

757
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: twenty yards from the line of scrimmage because they're terrified

758
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: at Josh Allen throwing over their head, he makes the

759
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: argument that it's better to just run straight ahead than

760
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: it is to run pitch plays, because what that does

761
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 1: is it allows the defenders that are twenty yards from

762
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage to flow to the ball, where

763
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: if you're running straight up the gut, there isn't the

764
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 1: time to do that, and you stand a greater chance

765
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: of being more effective. So as much as people want

766
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: to pin it on a bunch of different things, I

767
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: think you can at least make the argument that schematics

768
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: can play a factor as well in enhancing Buffalo's run

769
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: game going forward in terms of picking the right run

770
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: calls for the right situations. And that's not to say

771
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: that Brian's abele did not have the right call in

772
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: the run game most of the time. I'm pretty confident

773
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: he did. But when coaching staffs dissect all of these

774
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: things in the off season, they look at the players.

775
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: Obviously they write up their reports for that line play,

776
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: they also look at their own schematics because you do

777
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: have to take a look in the mirror. And that's

778
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: why coach McDermott said at the end of the season,

779
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 1: it's not about players asking themselves how they can get better.

780
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 1: It's coaches asking themselves how they can improve and help

781
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: the team. All right, there's a lot in there, and

782
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: we got to take a break. Yep, you're right, Yeah,

783
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: I'll leave it. We can get back to it after

784
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: the break, because there's a lot in this about what

785
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: this offense looked like. As a great call by Linda,

786
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: she had a lot in there. Thank you for calling

787
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: Linda and hope you do it. But she waited all

788
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: week to unpack her brain on everything with all you

789
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: and I both needed a whole week to get that's right, right,

790
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 1: So she's with us. Yeah, break time for us. We'll

791
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: be back with more of your phone calls, questions on

792
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: the obil fan l bag and then coming up at

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Speaker 1: one pm, it is Greg Cosell from NFL Film Stay

794
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: with us here on One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

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00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio After with You Friday edition of

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live, taking phone calls at eight three five

797
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: fifty eight fifty two five fifty any question you might

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00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: have on the team. It is an open forum here

799
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: on Friday's for you to fanta ask any question you

800
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: might have about the team. We had we had a

801
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 1: call from Linda and we didn't get a chance to

802
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: get She had some great thoughts and we went around

803
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: one of the things about Brian Dable. She asked about

804
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: a running game and how you know you're talking about

805
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: the stats that you know the Bills didn't run very

806
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: much on first down. I think one of the things

807
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: that this staff does really well is exploit what their

808
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: team does well and find out what's going to work

809
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: on that day. And I think the team Brian Dabole,

810
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 1: I think, refuses to bang his head against the wall. Yeah,

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00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: And I think when they get into these games and

812
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: they consistently couldn't run on first down, it wasn't they

813
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: didn't try that much. They would if they couldn't do it,

814
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: they were not going to because they had things that

815
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: were working. They exploited what they did well, and I

816
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: think that some of their in game adjustments was to

817
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: weed out what was not working and do more of

818
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: what was working right, and it led to some pretty

819
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: unbalanced play calling at times. So I think that's one

820
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: of the things. Another thing is one of the reasons

821
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: you do want to run it and run it more effectively,

822
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: is because it does help take the edge off their

823
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: pass rush. When you can run it they know. First

824
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 1: of all, they got to hold their ground to make

825
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: sure they're not handing it off and then they can

826
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: start their pass rush. And secondarily, when you run into

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00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: a club that somehow has your passing game off or

828
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: out of sync, or has answers for your passing game,

829
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: it makes it tough sledding. With what your identity is

830
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: on offense, you have to be able to turn to

831
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: something else, namely the run game, to maybe replace the

832
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 1: production you're losing and where you usually gain your yards

833
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: and move the football, which is in the pass game,

834
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: and they couldn't turn to that with confidence this season.

835
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: And you can look no further than the Chiefs game.

836
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: Josh had a really tough time finding openings in the

837
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: passing game because they were playing dime coverage, six defensive backs,

838
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: and they were plastering their receivers as effectively as anyone

839
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: has this season. And so your answer is, well, you've

840
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: got six guys, six defensive backs, running around fifteen yards

841
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: from the line of scrimmage, run the damn ball, and

842
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 1: they couldn't do it effectively. And that's why you heard

843
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean and their season rapp AP

844
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: press conferences say we have to run the ball better.

845
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: We need to be able to turn to it when

846
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 1: we need it, not saying run it more, run it better.

847
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: And there's a difference, and will undoubtedly be looking for

848
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: the solutions to do that next season. Let's go to

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00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: the phones. You get one more call in before the break.

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Speaker 1: Here we go to Randy and Ole and Randy, what

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Speaker 1: do you have for us? You're on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing? Good? Tasker? I just want to

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00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: say you're a legend and my dad's huge fan. But

854
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: your dad's a huge fan. I'm I'm a Falcons fan.

855
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: My dad passed away two years ago. He was a

856
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: diehard Bills fan and I told him I made a

857
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: promise that I would root for the Bills. And he

858
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,479
Speaker 1: had a phenomenal season this year. But, like you said,

859
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: the run game, they need a running back and I

860
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: think Naji Harris from Alabama is going to be a

861
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: good fit for Buffalo because he's a powerful running back.

862
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 1: He's like a Derek Henry Marshawn Lynch. And they need

863
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: an offensive line that can protect Alan Moore and start

864
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: that run game. Yeah, I mean I get I get

865
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Speaker 1: up this year. Right this year, if you look at

866
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Speaker 1: his stats, he's gone up. But you can't just have

867
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Speaker 1: a passing game because then the defenses are going to

868
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: stop the passing game. You've got to have a good

869
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: running game. Singletary is a good runner, but we need

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Speaker 1: a powerful running back like Derrick Henry to like just

871
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: how over everybody. Yeah, I mean I get it. I mean,

872
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: if Derrick Henry's out there, the Bills will probably snatch

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00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: him up if they get it. I think that's what

874
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: they thought they were getting in Zach Moss. And I

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00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: mean he did get yards after contact. I mean I

876
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: mentioned these guys finished twelfth and thirteenth in the league,

877
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: and yards after contact on average this season in the

878
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: entire league. That's pretty good. Yeah, we have your top

879
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: two backs in the top fifteen in the league. Yeah,

880
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: they need I agree with you. They've got some real

881
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: I think the entire job one of the offseason for

882
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills is this, either maintain or upgrade your

883
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: offensive line and your defensive line. They have got to

884
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: get more physical upfront. Their offensive line was a shambles

885
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: for eight weeks of the season because every week they

886
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: had a different starting a different combination of center guard

887
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: combination for through eight weeks of the season until until

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00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: Mitch Morris came back from his concussion. Then they started

889
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: to get it settled in. They lost Cody Ford at

890
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: that point and they so they never really had the

891
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: five guys they thought they were going to have, and

892
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: they never really got the production I think in their

893
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: run game that they really wanted in the passing game.

894
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: The Bills were pretty solid upfront. They worked hard, they

895
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: worked well together, they communicated well. Mitch Morris, I think

896
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: his real strength as a center, aside from his ability

897
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: to get out and run, is his ability to get

898
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: those guys in the right calls and get him a

899
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: hat on a hat. His pass block win rate this

900
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: year was number two in the league among centers. Yeah,

901
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 1: ninety seven percent pass block win rate. Mitch Morris is

902
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: a great dude for that reason, because he is good

903
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: to pass pro and he also gets those other guys

904
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: lined out and stepping to the right guys even on

905
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: the stunts. So, but I think they need to they

906
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: need to be better getting out and run, and that

907
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: starts with him and both guards. Certainly, Feliciano wasn't in

908
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: the in the on the field enough this season in

909
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season and Cody Ford disappeared because

910
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: of the injury. I think they got to They've got

911
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: to make sure that they are not only better upfront

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Speaker 1: with the starting five, either getting those guys on the

913
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Speaker 1: field at the beginning of the season and leaving them

914
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: there and getting better backup play when those guys come in.

915
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: I think you've got to get better upfront at least,

916
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: that's got to be your mindset. Now you can do

917
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,479
Speaker 1: that with the same players you've gotten, making them, making

918
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: them better and getting them more acclimated, all that stuff,

919
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: and keeping them healthy and sticking them in there and

920
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: leaving them in there because they shuffled around so much.

921
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: Maybe that was the issue, But I still think they

922
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: need to get more production and start the run. Game

923
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: starts with the offensive line, not the running backs. And

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Speaker 1: that's where my head's at this week. Break time for us.

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Speaker 1: When we return from NFL films, Greg co Sell joins

926
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Speaker 1: us stay tuned for that. We'll be back with him well.

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Speaker 1: Next on one Bills Live presented by Kalid to Health,

928
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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radiofalo Bills Radio Network Stories, Update your

929
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,720
Speaker 1: sports update from one Bill's Drive heading into the weekend

930
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: without a Bills Your NFL game for the first time

931
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: in a long time, but we'll have you covered with

932
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: our weekly podcast. One Bills Live would be uploaded later

933
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Speaker 1: this afternoon, featuring NFL Network analyst and former NFL personnel

934
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: executive Mark Ross a fresh numbers game in a new

935
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: segment called would You Believe It? Available on most podcast platforms,

936
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: The Bills Appen can watch it on the Bills channel

937
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: on YouTube. Around the NFL, Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, entering

938
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Speaker 1: his age thirty nine season in twenty twenty one, is

939
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Speaker 1: eight tenth in the NFL, but the veteran signal caller,

940
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: just one year after a devastating elbow injury, is not

941
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Speaker 1: looking at retirement. Talking to local reporters Thursday, Steelers president

942
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: Aren't Rooney the Second said Roethlisberger wants to return to

943
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: the team next season. However, Rooney said the QB will

944
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: have to make significant concessions in regard to his salary

945
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: and cap hit, which is forty one million dollars for

946
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: the return to be feasible. On Thursday, Texans star quarterback

947
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson officially put in his request for a trade.

948
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: Reports this morning indicate that more than half of all

949
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: NFL teams have already called the Texans about Watson. Two

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00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: of those teams include the AFC East New York Jets

951
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: and Miami Dolphins, along with the Carolina Panthers. New head

952
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: coach David Culley and GM Nick Kisserio are set to

953
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: address the media this hour in an introductory press conference.

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00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: The Eagles introduced their new head coach, Nick Sirianni today

955
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: at a press conference. Sirianni, when asked about his quarterback situation,

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00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: said the following quote. We have two quarterbacks, and Carson

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00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: Wentz and Jalen Hurts that our top notch. A lot

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Speaker 1: of teams don't have any. I'm excited to work with

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00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: both of them. End quote. Sirianni went on to say

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00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: that he is in evaluation mode and hasn't even thought

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00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: about who the starting quarterback will be. And number one

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Speaker 1: draft pick Alexei Lefrenier scored his first career NHL goal

963
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: to forty seven inch overtime to lead the Rangers to

964
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: a three two win over the Sabers Thursday night. Sam

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00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: ryin Hard and Jack eichel boll tally for the Sabers,

966
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: who are back in action this weekend with a two

967
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: game homestand against the Devils on Saturday and Sunday. That

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Speaker 1: is your sports update here on One Bills Live. Chris

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00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: Brown Steve Tasker our number two, and joining us now

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00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: is the man, the senior producer from NFL Films. Also

971
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Speaker 1: on the ESPN NFL Matchup show every weekend during the

972
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: football season, it is one Greg Cosell joining us here

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00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: on One Bills Live. Greg. How you doing, Sarah. We've

974
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: got one game left to play, I know, and no

975
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: game this weekend. I've been Mister Tasker doesn't mind that

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00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: there's not going to be a game this weekend. I

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00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 1: got plans for the weekend. I'm gonna, you know what

978
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. I'm gonna I'm gonna do something out crazy.

979
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna dressing my pajamas and watch TV all week.

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00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: Oh wow, way to rip it up, Steve, I got it.

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00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 1: You know, Brownie and I were just saying, great because

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00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: we've been, you know, we've been you know, neck deep

983
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: in the Bills all season and to watch them come

984
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,760
Speaker 1: out and play against that Chiefs team this last weekend

985
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: today is really kind of the first day where we can,

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00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: you know, get our heads up, stretch out and say,

987
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: you know what, it was a great season. It was

988
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. And even though they got beat

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00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 1: by the Chiefs team this last weekend, there's a lot

990
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: to build on here in Buffalo. But man, oh man,

991
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: they met a buzz saw in Arrowhead Stadium last week.

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00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: What did you see? You know? It was kind of

993
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: an interesting game. And let's start just with a macro worldview,

994
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: because I kept trying to think, Okay, if you're if

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00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: you're a Bills fan, how do you see what happened?

996
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: And where do they go? I mean, obviously, I think

997
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: before the season, if you told Bills fans you'd be

998
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 1: in the championship game, they go out of that that's

999
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: pretty cool. But then when the season happens and you

1000
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: get there, you obviously who want to win? So the

1001
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: Chiefs look like the team that has to be beaten

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00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: in the AFC. When you say that's fair based on

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00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: the last number of years, yea. And the Chiefs score

1004
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: a lot of points. So if you have to beat

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00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, it would strike me that you're gonna have

1006
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 1: to score points. So I think a lot of people

1007
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 1: might say, well, Gee, the Bills need to run the

1008
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: ball better, And right now, I'm just kind of talking

1009
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 1: philosophy here. You know, there's many ways to do this.

1010
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: A lot of people might say, well, gee, they need

1011
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: a better run game. Well is the run game the

1012
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 1: way you're going to score more points? And I'm just

1013
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: posing that as a question there. As I said, there's

1014
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: many ways, Steve, you know this, many ways to play,

1015
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: many ways to win games. But when all's said and done,

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00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: if you figure that Buffalo is going to be good

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00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: for the next number of years because they've got a

1018
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: really good quarterback, but they're gonna have to play the Chiefs,

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00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: and I think these two teams, don't they in the

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Speaker 1: regular season again? Next Yes, in Kansas City? Kansas City. Yeah,

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00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: So I mean the likelihood is you're going to have

1022
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Speaker 1: to score a lot of points. So the question becomes, Yes,

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00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: you want to build a really solid team, you want

1024
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,959
Speaker 1: to be good in every area, but when push comes

1025
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: to shove, if you want to get to the Super Bowl,

1026
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to probably be able in a big

1027
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: game against the Chiefs to put up thirty five, thirty

1028
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Speaker 1: eight forty points. So what's the best way to go

1029
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: about doing that. And I don't know if there's just

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00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: a simple answer to that. You know, obviously people say, well,

1031
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: I gotta throw the ball. Well, yeah, obviously passing tends

1032
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 1: to produce more explosive plays than running. But at the

1033
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: end of the day, what is the way you really

1034
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: go about doing that as an organization? Yeah, because one

1035
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 1: of the things is taken off the table. It seems

1036
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 1: to me with the current level of talent they've got

1037
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: on their offensive side of the ball, all the way

1038
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Speaker 1: down to Sammy Watkins and me Coole Hardman. Forget about

1039
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Speaker 1: the top two guys in Hill, right, Kelsey, you got

1040
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Speaker 1: all the way down to Sammy Watkins, third overall pick

1041
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: in the draft. He's got this physical skill set that

1042
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Speaker 1: says that's what he should be. Mikole Hardman is faster

1043
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: than Sammy. You got Clyde Edwards later. They almost seem indefensible.

1044
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Speaker 1: Plus the fact they got you know, this unicorn who's

1045
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: throwing the football to him, right, So yeah, you you know,

1046
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 1: old logic, old school logic says well, I just got

1047
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: to you know, defend them better, you know, keep them

1048
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Speaker 1: off the scoreboard so you can score. And that really

1049
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: is like, yeah, okay, but that ain't gonna work. And

1050
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Speaker 1: what just defending them better mean that's a great question. See,

1051
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Speaker 1: it's defending the better mean you're gonna hold him to

1052
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Speaker 1: the twenty seven or a thirty. You're not going to

1053
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 1: hold him to thirteen or seventeen. So at the end

1054
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Speaker 1: of the day, if you're if you're the Bills, you know,

1055
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Speaker 1: and you look at this offseason, do you think in

1056
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: terms of, hey, we even need more wide receivers and

1057
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Speaker 1: more speed on the perimeter because we're all said and done,

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Speaker 1: that's the way we're going to have to beat the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to beat the Chiefs in a seventeen

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Speaker 1: thirteen game. So that's why it's a difficult question because

1061
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: you look at you your whole team. If you just

1062
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: look at your team in a vacuum separate from what's

1063
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 1: say the Chiefs or other teams, you might say, hey,

1064
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: we need a great age pass rusher, we need to

1065
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: run the football, we need this, we need that. But

1066
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, to beat the Chiefs,

1067
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to score thirty five or thirty eight, right, yeah,

1068
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: And you know, getting getting around to that portion of

1069
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: the conversation Greg. You know, Sean McDermot and Brandon Bean

1070
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: both had their season rapp up press conferences up here

1071
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: earlier in the week, and both of them said we

1072
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: have to run the ball better. They didn't say that

1073
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: to run it more, they said they had to write better.

1074
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 1: And I think there's an important distinction there. And if

1075
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: you look, and I know, Mike Tanner from the Pro

1076
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: Football Network dot Com did a nice breakdown of the

1077
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: Bills this season with respect to the run game, and

1078
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: both Zach Moss and Devin Singletary were ranked high in

1079
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: broken tackle percentage and they ranked high in yards after

1080
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: initial contact contact across the league. So he took a

1081
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: deeper dive and found that on first down the Bills

1082
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: didn't run the ball very well. They only average about

1083
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: three point a per carry, which is why Brian Dable

1084
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: moved away from that and the Bills were I think

1085
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: the Bills are on first down either the most in

1086
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: the league or second most in the league all season long.

1087
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: So it begs the question does the run game improve

1088
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: through schematic changes, line changes, or both, because he did

1089
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: uncover that the Bills on first down ran a lot

1090
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: of outside runs, pitch plays, and outside zone. And when

1091
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,919
Speaker 1: you have safeties twenty yards off the line of scrimmage,

1092
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: when you run outside, you allow those deep safeties to

1093
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: flow to the ball, where if you just ran it

1094
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: up the middle, that opportunity doesn't exist for safeties that

1095
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: far from the line of scrimmage. And that's where the

1096
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: self scouting, Chris and the self evaluation comes into play

1097
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: because every team, and you guys know this, every coach

1098
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: looks at their particular unit three four times every play

1099
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: for the season. That's the first thing they do before

1100
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: they get into free agency in the draft, is you

1101
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: self scout and self evaluate. So you have to decide

1102
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: if based on your those numbers which are that's those

1103
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: are mathematical numbers, they're not wrong. You have to decide

1104
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: why that's the case. And it's easier to make a generalization, Oh,

1105
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: safeties are deep, so and so you don't know that.

1106
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: We don't know that. I can't remember every play. Obviously,

1107
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: you have to see, hey, is that really the reason

1108
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: are we? Did we not run well outside because we

1109
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: allowed safeties to get involved. Did we not run well

1110
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: outside because we didn't block well up front? There's there's

1111
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: many different reasons and you have to decide sort of

1112
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: prioritize them, what's the reason it really didn't work, and

1113
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: then go, here's the reason one, here's reason two, here's

1114
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: reason three. But at the end of the day, do

1115
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: you have to run it better? Yes, And you made

1116
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: a great point. That doesn't mean you run it more necessarily,

1117
00:59:55,280 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: because running it more is not likely to produce more points. Right.

1118
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: It just means it'll be easier to throw it. I

1119
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 1: mean maybe maybe not. I mean, uh, yeah, you got it.

1120
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Speaker 1: What it does it it changes the way It's been

1121
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: talked about for years. It's always been accepted as gospel

1122
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: that running the ball helps your passing game. And I'm

1123
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: not going to say it doesn't. But I don't think

1124
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: that's an automatic statement, Steve, I don't think that that's

1125
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: absolutely true. Well, what it does do is when you

1126
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: run the ball, well, it changes the way the defense

1127
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: has to play you, and that changes the way you

1128
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: can attack it. Right, That's that's basically what is. It

1129
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: changes the defense in front of you, which always changes

1130
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,919
Speaker 1: your ability to attack it in other ways. I think

1131
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: the point is this, to me anyway, from just watching

1132
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: tape of every team, is I think when you line

1133
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: up with specific personnel and specific formations, you pretty much

1134
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: know what you're going to get defensively. That's what coaches do,

1135
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,439
Speaker 1: that's why they work so many hours. Very there's very

1136
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: few times where you're con used or you see something

1137
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: you never saw. I remember this summer having a great

1138
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: conversation with Carson Palmer, and I asked him, Hey, will

1139
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: you confuse did you see things you've never seen? An?

1140
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: He said, if that happened once every five six weeks,

1141
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: that was a lot. So it's not that you're getting

1142
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 1: something new. What you're trying to do is create a

1143
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: situation where the defense is predictable based on your personnel

1144
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 1: and your formation, and then you know by what you

1145
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: do that you can put a particular defender and conflict.

1146
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: Let's say a player has both a run and a

1147
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: past responsibility. You can put that player in conflict based

1148
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: on what you'd do. I know that, and I don't

1149
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: want to really rehash too much of the AFC title game, Greg,

1150
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: but I know last week when we were looking to

1151
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: that game, we were talking about the propensity for the

1152
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: Chiefs defense to play dime. I mean, they played at

1153
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: the third most percentage of snaps of any team in

1154
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: the league through the course of the season. I think

1155
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 1: I saw a number this week that's Agnolo had it

1156
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: on seventy five percent of their defensive snaps in the

1157
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: game on Sunday. I don't know if that's accurate. That's

1158
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: a number that I saw. Well, I can tell you

1159
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: for a fact, they played fifty four snaps of dime

1160
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 1: in sixteen snaps of nickel. Yeah, they did not played

1161
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: bass right, so and they executed it very well, But

1162
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: it was almost as if they said, well, we know

1163
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 1: this team is going to be passing, and if they

1164
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: can prove they can run effectively against the light box,

1165
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: well then we'll adjust. But the Bills never did that obviously,

1166
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 1: and they never had to kind of come out of

1167
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: that all that often except in extreme down and distant

1168
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: situations or a time in the game a red zone

1169
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 1: or two minute. What did you make of their dime

1170
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: package and why it looked that might have been their

1171
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 1: best defensive performance of the season that the Chiefs had

1172
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Well, Spags has been very, very aggressive all

1173
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: the year, and again my sense is he's aggressive because

1174
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: he knows that his offense is going to put up

1175
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 1: a lot of points. So I think he knows quite honestly,

1176
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: guys that hey, if they happen to hit a big

1177
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: one against my aggressive defense, so what my guy's gonna

1178
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: put up thirty plus. So if they hit one or two, hey,

1179
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: that's okay. But he's been aggressive all season. His profile

1180
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: this season out of sub especially dime, has been man

1181
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: coverage with pressure. They'll play some snaps of cover two

1182
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 1: and when they play cover two, Matthew is the middle

1183
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: hole defender. They also have this kind of quarters match

1184
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,439
Speaker 1: coverage which they play all year. It's a spags thing

1185
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: where they actually rush five and it looks like they're

1186
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 1: playing quarters to the naked eye, but it's kind of

1187
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: a match concept, so they don't call it quarters. So

1188
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: those are the three defenses they really play at a dime.

1189
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 1: The most they play man and they'll go zero in man.

1190
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: I mean they played I think, in fact, I have

1191
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: the numbers. They played a number of snaps of zero

1192
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: in this game. Ten apps of zero in this game,

1193
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 1: and that's a high percentage. But they played zero more

1194
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: than any team in the league. So they played man

1195
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: with zero, they played cover two, and they play kind

1196
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 1: of that quarters match. Those are the three coverages that

1197
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: they predominantly play out of dying. And tell me if

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Speaker 1: you saw this, Greg, because Josh referenced this in his

1199
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: postgame comments. He said that there were times where they

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01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: were late to show and what that did was it

1201
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 1: prevented him from having enough time on the play clock

1202
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 1: to get back into their original play after he changed

1203
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: it based on the Chiefs initial look. And he's right,

1204
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: there were a couple of times where they caught him.

1205
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: And again, I don't want people to take this the

1206
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 1: wrong way. It's not that Josh didn't know. It's you

1207
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: get caught sometimes, you know. The first I made a

1208
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: note of this the first play of the Bill's fifth possession.

1209
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: The Chiefs were able to win in a sense before

1210
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: the snap because they showed a single high man coverage concept.

1211
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 1: You could see that Alan changed the play at the

1212
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 1: line to a vertical out because that's what he saw.

1213
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 1: It was a vertical route by Brown outside the numbers.

1214
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: And then they rotated to cover two and they took

1215
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: Brown away and Allen got kind of caught focused on Brown.

1216
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: And you might remember the play. It should have been

1217
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: intercepted by Ward. You probably don't remember that play, but yeah,

1218
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: they They're really good at the skies and late movement,

1219
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: and they do that to everybody. That's not just a

1220
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: Josh Allen thing. They do that to everybody, and they're very,

1221
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 1: very good at it. One of the things about that's

1222
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 1: coming now that we're starting to focus in the coming months,

1223
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: a ton of quarterbacks are just gonna start moving around.

1224
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Matt Stafford seems like he's gonna leave Detroit.

1225
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson has asked for a trade from Houston, but

1226
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 1: it's coming out now. Houston has said we ain't trading him.

1227
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: How that ends in Houston is still remains to be seen.

1228
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger is said what he wants to play again

1229
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: and the Steelers won, and but not at his price.

1230
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 1: How that ends up? And I'm Aaron Rodgers. I don't

1231
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: care what anybody says. Aaron Rodgers is not going anywhere

1232
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: out of Green Bay on what he said. So, but

1233
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 1: still there's some movement that's going to happen in the

1234
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 1: quarterback spot. And what are some of your impressions about

1235
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: some of these guys that may move or may not. Yeah, well,

1236
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: it looks like Stafford is going to move because they

1237
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 1: kind of mutually agreed on that, so he's going to move.

1238
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 1: So I guess my question is, and obviously there's this

1239
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 1: sense that Trevor Lawrence is a great player. He has

1240
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: not taken a snap in the NFL, and obviously he's

1241
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 1: got a lot of traits and looks like he'll be

1242
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 1: a really good player, but he's not played a snap

1243
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So, if you're a team that you

1244
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 1: know is in a position to draft a quarterback with

1245
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: a relatively high pick, let's leave Jacksonville out of the

1246
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: mix for a moment. But if you're a team in

1247
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: a position to draft a quarterback relatively high, what's your

1248
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: thought process? Are you taking a player that's never played

1249
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 1: in the NFL and then has some questions or are

1250
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: you taking a player who's played at a high level

1251
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: in the NFL for years and appears that he'll play

1252
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 1: at least four or five more years and giving up

1253
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 1: your number one pick. I mean, that's really the question

1254
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: you have to ask. We know that teams hoard their

1255
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 1: draft picks, but are you taking justin fields in the

1256
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: first round a player And I've already done justin fields

1257
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: in terms of evaluation, and he's got some some definite concerns.

1258
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: Are you taking Justin Fields and saying, Okay, we're gonna

1259
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 1: take Fields. We'd rather have him than Matthew Stafford. I

1260
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 1: think you have to make that decision as an organization.

1261
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: I would probably want to get Matthew Stafford, but I

1262
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 1: don't think I'm going to be called by the organization opinion.

1263
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm with you. It's a no brainer for me. It's

1264
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 1: you take the guy. I agree you can play. Yeah,

1265
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: the known commodity, right, Yeah? What about you know, we've

1266
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 1: heard a bunch of teams being mentioned as as interested in,

1267
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 1: you know, quarterback suitors, if you will, for lack of

1268
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 1: a better term, A team like San Francisco is particularly interesting, Greg,

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Speaker 1: only because you know, it seems like I don't want

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01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 1: to say they they're disenchanted did with Jimmy Garoppolo, but

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Speaker 1: it's clear that they're one of the teams that have

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Speaker 1: been calling about Matthew Stafford. How would Stafford fit there

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01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: in a Shanahan offense? Well, to me, and I really looked.

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01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: I've looked at Stafford his whole career, but I looked

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Speaker 1: at him hard this past summer because I was home

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Speaker 1: and I think Stafford's a really, really good player. And

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Speaker 1: my guess is if you talk to people in the league,

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01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 1: people who watch tape and study and game plan, they

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01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: would tell you he's a really good player. So I

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01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,600
Speaker 1: think he fits any system. I don't think he's I

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01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,600
Speaker 1: think he's in a sense, scheme transcendent. I think he

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Speaker 1: could play effectively in any system. You don't need one

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01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 1: particular system for him. So I think he would fit

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01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: fine in Kyle Shanahan's system. And you know, I think that,

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Speaker 1: you know, if they had to give up their number

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01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 1: one or they again, I don't have all that works.

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01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: You know. I'm not one who does those draft cards

1288
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: or draft boards, but I would give up a number

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01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 1: one for Matthew Stafford. I would not see a problem

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Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, I got to agree with you as well.

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting to me, and I agree with you.

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01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: I thought back in the day when he first came out,

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01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,600
Speaker 1: the Bills were still playing the Lions every year in

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01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: the preseason, if not in the regular season, and you'd

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01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 1: get a chance to see him play just a series

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01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 1: or two, and he was he was special. He was

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Speaker 1: special early and he's you know, obviously he's been you know,

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01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 1: lived in Detroit for for ten years now and he's

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Speaker 1: taken a pounding but I still think he's got a

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Speaker 1: lot of good football in him and could be the

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Speaker 1: face of a franchise for like you say, four five

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01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 1: years and give you a deep running look. I know,

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01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 1: I know what people do, and that's okay. They look

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01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 1: at the fact that he's not won a playoff game,

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01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 1: that he's not been in the super Bowl, obviously, and

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01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 1: they think that he's the reason that that hasn't happened.

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01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 1: But if you talk to people who know and study

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01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford is really highly regarded. He's a supreme talent.

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01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: He throws the ball exceptionally well, he's got movement ability,

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01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 1: he's tough as nails. We've seen him over the years,

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01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 1: how competitive he is. I think he's a really good player,

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01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 1: and I think that would be echoed by a lot

1313
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 1: of people in the NFL. With respect to the Eagles

1314
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Speaker 1: Greg obviously, we just heard in the sports up dat

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01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni introduced as the new head coach there formerly

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01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 1: today and he's not naming any starters. He's saying, I

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01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 1: got two really good quarterbacks. You know, when Carson Wentz

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01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: and Jalen Hurts knowing Nick Sirianni's coaching tree is what

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01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 1: he's bringing to the Eagles in terms of offensive schematics.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it fits Carson Wentz skill set better

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01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 1: or Jalen Hurts skill set better. Well, I would answer

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01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 1: it this way, Chris. I was intrigued by who they

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01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 1: hired as their quarterback coach, Brian Johnson, who's been with

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01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 1: Dan Mullen for I think in two stops, and I'm

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01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 1: very curious with that higher as quarterback coach if that's

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01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 1: And again, I have no one information. I'm just trying

1327
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 1: to read the tea leaves here and haven't spoken to anybody.

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01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 1: But given that particular quarterback coach and the fact they

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01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 1: brought in Shane Steischen from as the OC from who's

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01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 1: with the Chargers with Justin Herbert, I'm I'm just wondering

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01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 1: if they see Hurts more as their guy. And we

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01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 1: won't know the answer to that, you know, for quite

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01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: a while. And obviously Nick did the right thing. You

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01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 1: don't say who your quarterback is now, there's no reason

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01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 1: for that. But they brought in a very young coaching

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01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: staff with theoretically young ideas, so I'm very curious to

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01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 1: see how that plays out. Yeah, and one of the

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Speaker 1: other guys that we've watched and who has said he

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01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 1: wants to return to the team he finished with this

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01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 1: last season, it's Ben Roethlisberger. Now that Steeter said, we

1341
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 1: will do it, but you're not going to be worth

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01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 1: forty two million. You're gonna get you know, So if

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01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 1: they can work a thing out in pittsburghs as much

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01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 1: as they struggled, they were eleven to know at one

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01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 1: point this season. I mean it's not like that, you

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01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 1: know that nothing going for them, but yeah, it wasn't

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01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: all that good. They're within the last six weeks of

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01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 1: the season for him. What do you see in Ben Roethlisberger,

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01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 1: what he has to offer and how much football does

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01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 1: he have left in him? From your eye and watching

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01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: the film. And it's a great question because they're in

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01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 1: the same situation in a sense as Buffalo is. They're

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01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 1: going to have to beat the Chiefs and score points.

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01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: And throughout almost all of this season it was everything

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01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 1: was a quick passing game. They didn't really throw the

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01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 1: ball down the field. They just did once in a

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01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 1: great while. They did not really have an intermediate to

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01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 1: intermediate vertical passing game. I don't know if if Roethlisberger

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Speaker 1: can still do that or not. I don't know if

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01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 1: they played the way they did. I don't know the

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01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 1: reason they played the way they did, but that's the

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01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 1: way they chose to play, so you know, only they

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01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 1: could tell you that. But I don't think Roethlisberger is

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01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 1: the same guy he was, And I think they have

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01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 1: to decide if he's back, and it looks like he

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01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,600
Speaker 1: will be, because if you don't have him back, you

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01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 1: got to line someone up. So if he's back, is

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01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: their offense going to look the same. And if you're

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01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 1: going to play offense that way, then you're not really

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01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 1: producing a lot of big plays unless you get run

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Speaker 1: after catch. So we'll see. Because they couldn't run the

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Speaker 1: ball very effectively at all. They had a stretch early

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01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 1: in the season where they did, and then they really

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01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 1: lost their running game. They had no running game. But

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01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 1: I think they need a little more in their pass game,

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01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 1: from an intermediate to vertical, an intermediate and vertical element.

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Speaker 1: All right, Greg, we are at a time, but thanks

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01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 1: for giving us some insight this week. We appreciate it.

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01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 1: As always, it's a it's been a treat going through

1380
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 1: this bill season with you with your weekly visits. Thanks

1381
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 1: for helping us dice up the tape every week. Appreciate it, guys,

1382
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 1: Thanks so much. All Right, we'll see you next. All right,

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01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 1: that's Greg Cosell joining us from NFL Films, also one

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01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 1: of the co hosts on the ESPN NFL Matchup show.

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01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 1: Break time for us. But when we come back, we'll

1386
01:13:57,760 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 1: get to more of your phone calls and more of

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01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: your question from the obl fan Friday mail bag. Steve

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01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 1: and I back in a second here on One Bills

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01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalada Health. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Stevesaster enjoying

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01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 1: a Friday edition of the show. As Steve referenced in

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01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 1: one of his questions to Greg Cosell, who was just

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01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 1: on with us last segment, he referenced the comments made

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01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:37,719
Speaker 1: in the Houston Texans introductory press conference where new GM

1395
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,839
Speaker 1: Nick Casserio and new head coach David Culley were formally introduced.

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01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:45,879
Speaker 1: Be Cassirio opened the press conference by saying the following,

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01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 1: I just want to reiterate our commitment to Deshaun Watson.

1398
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: We have zero interest in trading the player. We have

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01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 1: a great plan and vision for him. We look forward

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01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 1: to spending more time with him. So the quest nothing

1401
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 1: about questions, thing about how happy they are to have

1402
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 1: David Culley as the new head coach. It's just like, hello,

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01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 1: we're not trading him. He just said, Just so you

1404
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 1: guys know. Organizationally, I want to reiterate our commitment to

1405
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. Deshaun sitting at his house, taking the TV

1406
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 1: and throwing it over the balcony. Can't you just picture that? Oh?

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01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 1: I could totally see it thrown over? Take off, get

1408
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 1: the remote off the wall. Your first you get your

1409
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,600
Speaker 1: remote in your hand, that goes right up, agains a

1410
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:36,719
Speaker 1: pow up A guess it rows it over the railing.

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01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 1: I hate my life holding that thing off. The woman

1412
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,679
Speaker 1: throwing it off the balcony into the into his pool,

1413
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 1: that's total sound effect. I'm so glad we don't have

1414
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 1: those problems. Wow, eight oh three five fifty fifty two

1415
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 1: five fifty Taking any of all questions that you have

1416
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 1: in the obil Fan Friday mailbag, and we'll get to

1417
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet shortly. But we do have some people

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01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 1: holding at eight oh three, five fifty. We're going to

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01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 1: start with Anthony in New York. Anthony, what do you

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01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 1: have for us? You're on one Bill's Live. Yes. What

1421
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 1: I think what marriage are looking at is the aftermath

1422
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Oakland game where they won the AFL

1423
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 1: championship scoring fifty three points in what Parcels and Bill

1424
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:31,480
Speaker 1: Bilchick did to respond to that, and that was basically

1425
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 1: a different defense using two linemen, and I think Buffalo

1426
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: could have won that game if they ram were But

1427
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: at any rate, I think that kind of strategy is

1428
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 1: worth at least discussing and looking at. It may prove

1429
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 1: to be a template for what the Bills are looking for,

1430
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 1: but I appreciate any kind of comments on that. Thank you, Anthony.

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01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 1: You're right. I think it would take something out of

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01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:58,600
Speaker 1: the norms of what we see in the NFL to

1433
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 1: stop an offense that is stacked and as talented and

1434
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 1: as fast and skilled as the Chiefs is. You'd have

1435
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 1: to come out with something like the h the Giants

1436
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 1: two down linemen. You have to almost, you know, just

1437
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 1: screamed that you want that team to run the football.

1438
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 1: Let's not forget too that they beat the living tar

1439
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 1: out of Andre Reid on every route he ran over

1440
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 1: the middle in that game, right, he was everybody that

1441
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 1: was between the numbers. If they had a shot, they

1442
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 1: took a crack a linebacker, safety corner. I mean not

1443
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 1: that Andre backed down from any of it by any means,

1444
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:35,640
Speaker 1: but they were roughing them up in the middle of

1445
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 1: the field because they knew Gym was looking there a lot.

1446
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:40,600
Speaker 1: And the Bills did do some of that in the

1447
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 1: first meeting with the Chiefs and inviting them to run

1448
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 1: while the Chiefs scored touchdowns and they you know, they

1449
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 1: weren't really prep They scored twenty six points and it

1450
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 1: was a six point game or one score game. Late

1451
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 1: in that game. It was a six point game laid

1452
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 1: in that game and the Bills had a chance to

1453
01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 1: win it. But even in this last game, I think

1454
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 1: the Bills faltered more offensively. They were off their game

1455
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 1: more offensively than they were defensively, in my opinion, because

1456
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 1: I felt like Josh wasn't hitting his stride. This was

1457
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 1: not the same passing offense we'd seen they It seemed

1458
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:20,679
Speaker 1: to be a struggle for Josh back there. And credit

1459
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 1: the Chiefs defense for their disguise and their late shifts

1460
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 1: into their d Davis was not healthy. I don't even

1461
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 1: know if he should have played. Quite frankly, probably should

1462
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: not have played. He did not look he did not

1463
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 1: look right. He was not help and so he was

1464
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 1: more of a detriment out there on the field because

1465
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 1: of the condition of his ankle and probably should not

1466
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 1: have played. Gave Davis had three targets, zero catches. John

1467
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 1: Brown never seemed to get back in the same kind

1468
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 1: of rhythm he had prior to his injury. I mean,

1469
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 1: he was tearing it up those first six weeks opposite

1470
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs. And you remember that Miami game in week two.

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01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 1: You can go to some of the other games before

1472
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 1: he got hurt, and then he came back in the

1473
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 1: lineup and it just he couldn't find his stride again.

1474
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 1: And that's a risk every single year. You know, people say, oh,

1475
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 1: we're going right back to the AFC title game next year.

1476
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 1: What if injuries ravaged this roster next year? You may

1477
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 1: not make it back right, And that's why you got

1478
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 1: to make the most of the opportunities when they're sitting

1479
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 1: there in front of you. And it was just a

1480
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 1: shame that this offense, which had carried this team all

1481
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 1: season long, did not have their best performance in the

1482
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 1: most important game of the year. It was unfortunate, and

1483
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 1: you can credit the Chief's defense for that, no question

1484
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 1: about it. There. I thought their pass rush was much

1485
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 1: better than I think that was anticipated they would be,

1486
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 1: and their ability to disguise things in the back end

1487
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 1: and get make Josh pat the ball just a little

1488
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 1: bit more once more or twice more in the pocket

1489
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 1: before he could find his answers. And Josh it took

1490
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 1: him a second to realize that he'd been had just

1491
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 1: on too many snaps. So like when he dropped back

1492
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 1: looking for his option, he didn't realize that after the

1493
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 1: snap they stemmed into something he wasn't expecting. It took him,

1494
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:57,600
Speaker 1: you know, just that extra beat to get off of

1495
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:02,599
Speaker 1: that and find his answer. Credit to the Chiefs um

1496
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 1: and you know, you got to learn from it. But

1497
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 1: I think Greg Cosel's right, and I think a lot

1498
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 1: of Bills fans are in that spot where you if

1499
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 1: that's the cheap team you're chasing, and at this point

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01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:15,800
Speaker 1: it is the best way to beat them is to

1501
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 1: score with them, because their offense is gonna make some hay. Yeah,

1502
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 1: but if you can come up with a unique defensive

1503
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 1: scheme to at least slow them down even a little bit, right,

1504
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 1: you help your offense. And by slowing them down, you

1505
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 1: don't have to slow them down. You just need to

1506
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 1: get them off the field once or twice. Just win

1507
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 1: on third down on two or three of them. Yeah,

1508
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: two or three you're talking about we're talking about well, yeah,

1509
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: but you're that's what we're talking about there. You're talking

1510
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:46,640
Speaker 1: about a handful of plays over the course of the

1511
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 1: of the game that you're gonna have to get them

1512
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 1: off the field and you know, win the game that way. Uh,

1513
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 1: that's what you're talking about when you're defending those guys.

1514
01:20:55,720 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 1: So at this point in history the NFL, that's the

1515
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 1: team you're gonna beat. That's how you're gonna have to

1516
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 1: beat him, because there aren't enough defensive players in the

1517
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 1: division to put the claims on that team. Yeah, let's

1518
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 1: get back to the phones. We go to Jim in

1519
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 1: Orchard Park. Jim, what do you have for us? You're

1520
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 1: on one Bill's Live. Yeah, how are you doing? Follow

1521
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 1: us good? A couple of questions. One is about running

1522
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 1: back Kristen Wade. This is I think the third year.

1523
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 1: Are we going to use him or get rid of him?

1524
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 1: I think Sunday's game we could have probably used him.

1525
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 1: And the other question is what do you think of

1526
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 1: you be running back Jared Patterson. I believe he was

1527
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:47,640
Speaker 1: the top running back in the country at the averaging

1528
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 1: around nine yards of Kerry And would we have any

1529
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 1: interest in him? Yeah? All good questions, Jim, thanks for

1530
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 1: the phone call. I'll start here. Christian Wade was resigned

1531
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 1: by the club as a reserve future free agent. Those

1532
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 1: are contracts that are given largely to players that are

1533
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 1: on their practice squad that whose rights they want to

1534
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 1: retain for the following off season, and they essentially know

1535
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 1: they're going to be in a training camp somewhere, so

1536
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 1: a lot of those players in that situation signed the deal.

1537
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 1: Christian Wade did that. Now, as far as last Sunday's game,

1538
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 1: he was not eligible to be called up to play

1539
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 1: in that game because he was on the league's International

1540
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 1: Pathway program and once a team who has a player

1541
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 1: like that allocated to their roster, when they put him

1542
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 1: on the practice squad, that's where he has to stay

1543
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 1: by rule under the International Pathway program. Now he's done

1544
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 1: that for each of the last two years. He is

1545
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:47,919
Speaker 1: no longer in the International Pathway program. The Bills resigned

1546
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 1: him as a reserve future free agent. He is like

1547
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:53,639
Speaker 1: every other player in the league right now, so if

1548
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 1: he is on the practice squad next year, they could

1549
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 1: call him up to the active roster. If he makes

1550
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 1: the roster, he's like any other player, you know. I know,

1551
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 1: he flashed in the preseason, as our MSG viewers are

1552
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 1: recalling right now, from twenty nineteen. It's gonna be interesting

1553
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 1: to see what the potential plan could be for him.

1554
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 1: But at least he'll have an opportunity to presumably, you know,

1555
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 1: play in a preseason this summer, which he did not

1556
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 1: get the opportunity to do this past summer because there

1557
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 1: was no preseason. And it's gonna be interesting to see

1558
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 1: what the dynamic is at the running back position. Zach

1559
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 1: Moss and Devin Singletary are going to be here. Brandon

1560
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 1: Being and Sean McDermott both said this week the running

1561
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 1: backs are not the problem. So they have to run

1562
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 1: the ball better, and they did not point to the

1563
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 1: running backs as the issue now. If they have a

1564
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 1: chance to in their minds upgrade the position. I'm sure

1565
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 1: they would take a look at that. You'd be foolish

1566
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 1: not to the object of this sport is to get

1567
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 1: better at it, so you're gonna have a better chance

1568
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 1: of winning the whole damn thing. But short of that,

1569
01:23:57,880 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna look at other ways to improve the running game,

1570
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 1: whether it's the combination up front on the offensive line

1571
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:07,599
Speaker 1: with the starting five, the schematics, what they're calling in

1572
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 1: the run game on first down, or whatever down and

1573
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 1: distance they want to you know, put under the microscope

1574
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 1: and take it from there. The last thing was about

1575
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 1: Jared Patterson, talented running back, but I'm going to tell

1576
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 1: you this ub was widely considered to have one of

1577
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 1: the top five offensive lines in college football, not just

1578
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:33,719
Speaker 1: the Mid American Conference, in the entire country. And proof

1579
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 1: of that was when Jared Patterson was out of the lineup.

1580
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 1: The kid behind him, I think his last name is Marx,

1581
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 1: who's coming back next year. He killed it in the

1582
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 1: running game. He might be more accurate in thinking not

1583
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 1: so much Jared Patterson, but a couple of offensive linemen

1584
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 1: might go to the bills rather than rather than rather

1585
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 1: than the running back. That might be a more accurate assessment.

1586
01:24:57,439 --> 01:24:59,599
Speaker 1: Not that Jared Patterson is a great player. I wish

1587
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 1: him nothing but the best is good. But but that

1588
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 1: offensive line ahead of him has got turned some heads.

1589
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:07,600
Speaker 1: I would think you'd have more of an opportunity or

1590
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 1: more probability of seeing one of those guys in a

1591
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 1: Bill's uniform rather than Jared Patterson. The Bill's got two

1592
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 1: young running backs that are both third round picks. Um,

1593
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 1: And you know this is a Bill's team that you

1594
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,640
Speaker 1: always want to stay as healthy and as big an

1595
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 1: athletic as you can upfront. And there's some might be

1596
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 1: some guys that you be that fit that Bill and

1597
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 1: a squeeze in Joe in Batavia here and next on

1598
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 1: one Bill's Live. Joe, what do you have for us? Yeah,

1599
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 1: I'm kind of asking like a dumb question, but you

1600
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 1: know you're looking for a big running bag that can

1601
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 1: catch the ball, block and everything like that, actually almost

1602
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 1: describing a tight end. Um. Well, I mean, I guess

1603
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 1: you're kind of comparing him to almost more of an

1604
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 1: h back than a running back. Yeah, I mean, what's

1605
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 1: your what's your point? Well, Joe, you wanted to let

1606
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 1: him go because we're up against the break all right, Well,

1607
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 1: I guess he wants like to just have like I

1608
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 1: guess he tight ends and use running backs running back.

1609
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 1: I think he feels like what we're talking about here,

1610
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 1: or what other fans are talking about, Oh, you need

1611
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 1: a big running back that can plow into the pile

1612
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 1: and get the tough yards. He's like, well, if you're

1613
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 1: talking about a big, tall running back and blah blah blah,

1614
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 1: are you talking about a tight end? Not necessarily. I

1615
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 1: mean Derreck Henry six foot three, two hundred and thirty

1616
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 1: five pounds. He's a big running back, and I don't know.

1617
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you could line him up at tight.

1618
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 1: He's an undersized tight end. Yeah, but yeah, so yeah,

1619
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 1: those if you got a guy that can out run

1620
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 1: everybody and is also six five, two fifty or two

1621
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 1: sixty or whatever bigger and he can outrun everybody, he

1622
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 1: might think about handing him the ball in short yardage.

1623
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. But those guys are those guys. Those

1624
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,760
Speaker 1: guys are as unique as as Pat mahomes Joe. I

1625
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:57,639
Speaker 1: don't think it was a dumb question. I just think

1626
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 1: it might have been. It's just a little miss misidentified.

1627
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 1: I think more than anything else. If the guy could

1628
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 1: do it, he'd have been doing it at the lower levels. Yeah,

1629
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 1: there's a reason he's not catching. He's at the tight

1630
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 1: end position and not the running back position. Break time

1631
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 1: for us when we come back, more are your phone calls,

1632
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 1: and then coming up at two o'clock, Jason read run

1633
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 1: the Undefeated. We'll be joining us, so stay tuned for that.

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Speaker 1: Here on One Bill's Live, presented by Collid to Health,

1635
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 1: it's Buffalo Bill's Radio back. Got One Bills Live blowsing

1636
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 1: up the second hour of the program, or we're gonna

1637
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 1: do that with a couple of phone calls here real quick,

1638
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 1: we will go to ray in or Rochester or Ray

1639
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 1: What do you have for us? You're on One Bills Live.

1640
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 1: Hey guys, thanks for taking my call. Um, just that

1641
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 1: that Calle just before the break about to tight end

1642
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 1: or running back, I thought, yeah, I think he's talking

1643
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:56,600
Speaker 1: about cricket Gil Chris, but there aren't many of those. Yeah.

1644
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 1: But um, as far as having to score with Casey

1645
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 1: over the next few years, I think it's absolutely right.

1646
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 1: What disturbed me was the pass rush on Sunday, and

1647
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 1: I think that ties to the run game. I know

1648
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 1: when I watched Kansas City play I picky, Oh boy,

1649
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 1: you're oh, but what if it's a run. I don't

1650
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 1: think people worry about that with the Bills, that there

1651
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:19,679
Speaker 1: would be a straight play or draw a player or something,

1652
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 1: and it would be good to have a run game, right.

1653
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 1: And secondly, on the offensive side, boy, I'd like to

1654
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:28,680
Speaker 1: see the Bills, as they evolved the offense start to

1655
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:33,719
Speaker 1: use McKenzie the way Kansas City uses Hill. He's awfully fast.

1656
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 1: I'll hang up. Thanks. Yeah, I mean Steve was trying

1657
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 1: to make that point earlier when we had Greg Cosell

1658
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 1: on that just being able to have the threat of

1659
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 1: an effective run game changes how the defense plays you

1660
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:47,719
Speaker 1: where they can't just tee you off and come after

1661
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 1: the quarterback because you may run a draw play and

1662
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 1: then you know you're victimized for fifteen yards and fresh

1663
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 1: set of downs. Right. I mean that's what you were

1664
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 1: kind of getting exactly when they when they're worried that

1665
01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 1: you're going to run it and you have been running

1666
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 1: it effectively, they're not gonna throw six defensive backs or

1667
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 1: seven defensive backs onto the field. And when they when

1668
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 1: they're limited in what they do, they become more predictable. So, um,

1669
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 1: and if they don't do, if they don't adjust to

1670
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 1: your run game, they're gonna get more of it, and

1671
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna get it on crucial downs and they're gonna

1672
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 1: have to stay on the field. So it's it does

1673
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 1: help you, no question about it. It It keeps the defense

1674
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 1: and it also gets in the mind of the defensive

1675
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 1: lineman and it takes the edge off their pass rush

1676
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 1: in my mind. Um, So all of those things help

1677
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:37,680
Speaker 1: you when you've got a good run game. And I

1678
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 1: would agree with you that's even if that's all it

1679
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 1: does for you. Every little bit helps. Yeah, And he

1680
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:49,600
Speaker 1: was also, he was, what was the second point? You

1681
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 1: were right? I saw you scribbling it down there and

1682
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 1: I already forgot. Now got to score with him? Oh yeah,

1683
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 1: with the McKenzie. Yeah, Mackenzie's usage Like Tyreek Hill, I

1684
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 1: don't know that you can do everything with McKenzie that

1685
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,799
Speaker 1: the Chiefs do with Hill. He's not as big a target.

1686
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:09,719
Speaker 1: So hitting deep plays down the sideline, for example, are harder.

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01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 1: It's a smaller targeted player. Tall corners can you know,

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01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 1: block him out, so to speak. So I don't know

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01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:21,000
Speaker 1: that as many different opportunities exist with McKenzie just because

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01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:24,680
Speaker 1: of his stature, that exists with Tyreek Hill, who is

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01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 1: about six foot and is a much thicker player in

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Speaker 1: stature than McKenzie. There's a place for McKenzie. I don't

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01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 1: think there's any question about that. The question is what

1694
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 1: happens now that he's set to become a free agent,

1695
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:41,840
Speaker 1: and I think it was it was the most encouraging

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01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:43,519
Speaker 1: and eye opening for a lot of people was the

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01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:45,840
Speaker 1: Miami game. We're seeing highlights of it here now where

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01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 1: he had, you know, three touchdowns and a punt return

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01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 1: for a touchdown, and they used him as their centerpiece

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01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:56,360
Speaker 1: of their offensive game plan and he shined in that. So,

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01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 1: no question, they feel like they can use him and

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01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 1: they've got that in their arsenal. But I think they

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01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:05,800
Speaker 1: also liked the other One of the reasons they got

1704
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 1: to ISAAIH McKenzie was because he was down the pecking

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01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 1: order behind Steph Diggs, Cole Beasley, John Brown, and Gabe Davis.

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01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 1: So I think they like those guys and what they

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01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 1: bring to the table more right or wrong. Yeah, break

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Speaker 1: time for us, But when we return. NFL senior writer

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01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:26,080
Speaker 1: from The Undefeated, Jason Reid joining us former NFL reporter

1710
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 1: for The Washington Post. He will be joining us next

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Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Line, presented by Kellida Health. It's

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio, Blow Bills Radio Network Sports Update. You're

1713
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:48,200
Speaker 1: a sports update from One Bills Drive. Heading into the

1714
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:50,439
Speaker 1: weekend without a Bills or NFL game for the first

1715
01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 1: time in a long time, but we have a covered

1716
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Speaker 1: with our weekly podcast, One Bill's Light, which will be

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Speaker 1: uploaded later this afternoon, featuring NFL network analyst and former

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Speaker 1: NFL personnel Exac Mark Row, a fresh numbers game, and

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Speaker 1: a new segment called would You Believe It? It's available

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Speaker 1: on those podcasts platforms, the Bills App, and you can

1721
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:09,360
Speaker 1: watch it on the Bills channel on YouTube. Around the NFL,

1722
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 1: Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is entering his age thirty nine

1723
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:15,639
Speaker 1: season in twenty twenty one, his eighteenth in the NFL,

1724
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:17,840
Speaker 1: but the veteran signal caller, just one year after a

1725
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:22,520
Speaker 1: devastating elbow injury, not looking to retire. Talking to local reporters,

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01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 1: Steelers president Aren't Rooney the Second said Roethlisberger wants to

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01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 1: return to the team next season, but Rooney said the

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01:32:28,240 --> 01:32:31,400
Speaker 1: QB will have to make significant concessions in regard to

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01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:34,799
Speaker 1: his salary and cap hit for a return to be feasible.

1730
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 1: Texas Stark Texans star quarterback to Shaun Watson officially put

1731
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:41,879
Speaker 1: in his request for a trade, but new GM Nick Kisserio,

1732
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:45,559
Speaker 1: at an introductory press conference today, opened by saying, quote,

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01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:48,120
Speaker 1: I just want to reiterate our commitment to Deshaun Watson.

1734
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:50,680
Speaker 1: We have zero interest in trading the player. We have

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01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:52,679
Speaker 1: a great plan and vision for him. We look forward

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01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:56,759
Speaker 1: to spending more time with him. End quote. The Eagles

1737
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 1: introduced their new head coach Nick Sirianni at a press

1738
01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 1: conference Today's Sirianni, when asked about his quarterback situation, said

1739
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:05,479
Speaker 1: the following quote, we have two quarterbacks in Carson Wentz

1740
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:07,800
Speaker 1: and Jalen Hurts that our top notch. A lot of

1741
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:10,320
Speaker 1: teams don't have any. I'm excited to work with both

1742
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 1: of them. End quote. Sirianni went on to say that

1743
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 1: he is in evaluation mode and hasn't even thought about

1744
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 1: who the starting QB will be. And as your sports

1745
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:21,000
Speaker 1: update from One Builds Drive, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with

1746
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:23,920
Speaker 1: you and joining us on the line for the third

1747
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 1: hour the program today, NFL senior writer for The Undefeated, which,

1748
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:29,680
Speaker 1: for those of you that don't know, is kind of

1749
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:34,520
Speaker 1: an arm of ESPN dot com. It's ESPN's media platform

1750
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:37,639
Speaker 1: that explores the intersection of sports racing culture, and it's

1751
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 1: Jason Reid who has been doing that since twenty fifteen

1752
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 1: giving us some time today. Jason, thanks for joining the program.

1753
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:47,200
Speaker 1: How you doing doing well? Guys, Thank you, thanks for

1754
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 1: coming on. Yeah, we want to begin right off the top.

1755
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 1: The hiring cycle is complete for all intents and purposes

1756
01:33:55,120 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 1: here in the NFL seven head coaching openings. Two hires

1757
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:04,639
Speaker 1: of the minority nature Robert Sala, who is Elevenese American

1758
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:07,879
Speaker 1: our Salah, excuse me. And then David Culley just introduced

1759
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 1: today as the Texans head coach. And I know, you know,

1760
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:15,200
Speaker 1: there's other hirings out there that were made that kind

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01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:17,920
Speaker 1: of had people scratching their heads. And you know, we're

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01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:21,320
Speaker 1: not going to name names right now specifically, but I

1763
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:24,519
Speaker 1: know there are some very well qualified candidates, Leslie Frasier

1764
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:27,800
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo among them, that people thought were more

1765
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 1: than deserving and it just flat out did not happen.

1766
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:34,799
Speaker 1: I know this is playing like a broken record for you. Jason,

1767
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:38,360
Speaker 1: but um, where where does it go from here? With

1768
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:43,560
Speaker 1: very little movement on this front. Well, guys, you know,

1769
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:45,680
Speaker 1: we look at the last four hiring cycles. There were

1770
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:49,080
Speaker 1: twenty seven openings for head coaches. During the last four

1771
01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 1: hiring cycles, there were four excume me, five coaches of

1772
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 1: how did you phrase it, my minority background, so to

1773
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:03,200
Speaker 1: speak U during that period. You're talking about twenty seven

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01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 1: openings and five people of color hired during that time.

1775
01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:12,639
Speaker 1: And that simply is not good enough. According to someone

1776
01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:15,679
Speaker 1: who is at the head of the NFL. Roger Goodell,

1777
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 1: the commissioner in the NFL, has said that is not

1778
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 1: good enough. We are not doing what we need to

1779
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:24,439
Speaker 1: do in a league that is about seventy percent African American.

1780
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell has made it his you know, one of

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01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 1: the things that that's very important to him. He has

1782
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:33,920
Speaker 1: made it a mission to try to improve diversity and

1783
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:38,400
Speaker 1: inclusion within the league. And the Commissioner continues to make

1784
01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 1: it clear every year we've got to do better and

1785
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:42,880
Speaker 1: it's just not happening. So as far as where do

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01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 1: we go from here, Look, you know, I talk with

1787
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 1: assistant coaches, I talk with player personnel executives both black

1788
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 1: and white, and they tell me the same thing. It's

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01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 1: not a league office problem. It is an ownership problem.

1790
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:02,600
Speaker 1: And until they are owners make a change, nothing is

1791
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 1: going to change. And I would obviously agree with that.

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01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:08,559
Speaker 1: That's and we were talking just before we came on

1793
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:10,640
Speaker 1: the area, if it really if there were any way,

1794
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:12,800
Speaker 1: and it's and it's hard too, I mean it's it's

1795
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:16,599
Speaker 1: a multi billion dollar industry and it's hard to hit

1796
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:18,759
Speaker 1: him where it hurts, and that's right in the bank account.

1797
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:23,640
Speaker 1: But and there's no really way to quantify the public's

1798
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 1: you know, desire to see this done fairly, let alone

1799
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:30,560
Speaker 1: whoever's hired. Just to see it done fairly would be

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01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:33,479
Speaker 1: a step in the right direction. And until it does

1801
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 1: hit them in the pocketbook, as I said, it's really

1802
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:38,720
Speaker 1: not going to change. But it's hard to envision even

1803
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 1: a scenario where that would happen. Well, yeah, the league

1804
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 1: is pushing twenty billion dollars in annual revenue. This it

1805
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:50,320
Speaker 1: is the most popular, most successful sports league in the

1806
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:53,800
Speaker 1: history of the planet. So when you look at where

1807
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:56,680
Speaker 1: the league is with revenue, and then when you look

1808
01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:58,720
Speaker 1: at where the league is with diversity inclusion in the

1809
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 1: coaching ranks, it's just it's not at a situation right

1810
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:05,439
Speaker 1: now where there's a tipping point to where people say, well,

1811
01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:07,320
Speaker 1: the owners are going to have to make a change.

1812
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:10,880
Speaker 1: So I don't know how it changes because I think

1813
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:14,080
Speaker 1: that unless it's going to hit them in the pocketbook,

1814
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:18,120
Speaker 1: I don't see them fundamentally doing anything different. Jason, what

1815
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 1: about the GM hiring cycle. The numbers are slightly better

1816
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:26,200
Speaker 1: there Brad Holmes in Detroit, Terry Fontineo in Atlanta, Martin

1817
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 1: Mayhew just recently in Washington. Do you is it conceivable

1818
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:34,839
Speaker 1: to think that more traction there on the front office

1819
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:39,040
Speaker 1: front could possibly have a trickle down effect in any

1820
01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 1: capacity to the head coaching ranks. Yeah, let me let

1821
01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:46,679
Speaker 1: me say this. So there was three black journal managers hired,

1822
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 1: bringing the league's total to five at most in league history.

1823
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 1: There have been seven. That was at the end of

1824
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:57,840
Speaker 1: the twenty fifteen season. So we were still below what

1825
01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:01,680
Speaker 1: the high watermark was. As far as you know, to

1826
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:04,400
Speaker 1: answer your question about could this change anything, I don't

1827
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:08,280
Speaker 1: necessarily think it will. Black general managers are not going

1828
01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 1: to be necessarily jumping to hire black coaches to be

1829
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:16,640
Speaker 1: their head coaches. They're you know, one of the unspoken

1830
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:21,519
Speaker 1: things is is that people look at who are People

1831
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 1: look at the coaches who are hired. They look at

1832
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:25,320
Speaker 1: the general managers who are hired. And if you're a

1833
01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 1: black general manager and you're getting your first shot at

1834
01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:30,240
Speaker 1: a job, yeah, you may look at a black assistant coaching.

1835
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:32,200
Speaker 1: This guy gives me my best chance to win. But

1836
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:34,000
Speaker 1: you also make think in the back of your mind, Okay,

1837
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:36,200
Speaker 1: this is my first shot. You know, is my owner

1838
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 1: im completely on board with this because look, it's the

1839
01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 1: owner who's going to make the higher. The general manager

1840
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:43,799
Speaker 1: makes a recommendation, but at the end of the day,

1841
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 1: if you're stroking a check to give somebody five million

1842
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:48,639
Speaker 1: dollars a year, the owner is going to make that higher.

1843
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 1: So do you want to go and and and your

1844
01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:53,760
Speaker 1: first time if you're in the job for the first time,

1845
01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:56,720
Speaker 1: do you want to go expend the capital that it's

1846
01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 1: going to take to sell your owner on making a

1847
01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:02,080
Speaker 1: minority high when you're the first time in this job.

1848
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:04,360
Speaker 1: And then what happens if it doesn't work out? Because

1849
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 1: here's the thing. If you're a general manager, you know,

1850
01:39:06,240 --> 01:39:08,479
Speaker 1: a lot of saying goes. You know, you get to

1851
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:11,840
Speaker 1: hire maybe two coaches, Yeah, you don't get to hire three,

1852
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:13,800
Speaker 1: and you may not get to hire two. Yeah, And

1853
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:16,800
Speaker 1: I probably asked the question poorly because what I was

1854
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 1: driving at with the with the GM hiring cycle is

1855
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:24,240
Speaker 1: I maybe I'm just foolishly hopeful and maybe even a

1856
01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:27,120
Speaker 1: little naive with this, But I was kind of seeing

1857
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 1: it as, Okay, here's an opportunity for three new hires

1858
01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:33,680
Speaker 1: in the general manager ranks to make an impact on

1859
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:37,680
Speaker 1: ownership around the league, to maybe say, hey, here are

1860
01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 1: people of color doing it at the general manager front

1861
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:45,519
Speaker 1: office level. There's no reason why you can't think, you know,

1862
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 1: black people are just as qualified to be head coaches

1863
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:50,919
Speaker 1: in the league if they're proving themselves as general managers.

1864
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:53,799
Speaker 1: I guess that's my hope is they get the position,

1865
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:56,679
Speaker 1: they're successful in those positions, and that there's a trickle

1866
01:39:56,680 --> 01:39:59,400
Speaker 1: down effect from there that can maybe make owners seat

1867
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:01,559
Speaker 1: the head coach ranks in a different life. But maybe

1868
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:04,479
Speaker 1: I'm naive with that thinking No, no, no, I don't.

1869
01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:07,519
Speaker 1: I don't think that's naive. I mean I when I

1870
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:09,760
Speaker 1: first started, uh, I used to work to Washington Post

1871
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:12,720
Speaker 1: covering the Washington football team many many years ago, and

1872
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 1: when I first started covering the League. I thought to myself, well,

1873
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:18,320
Speaker 1: you know, Mike Tomland wins a Super Bowl. You know

1874
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:21,200
Speaker 1: Tony Dungee wonner a Super Bowl. Maybe you know if

1875
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:24,560
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin gets back to another Super Bowl. Um. You

1876
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 1: know Jerry Reese when he was a general manager the Giants,

1877
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 1: he put together a team that beat the Patriots in

1878
01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:31,759
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. He was the I believe, the scouting

1879
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:35,760
Speaker 1: the head of player personnel on another Giants team that

1880
01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:38,759
Speaker 1: that won in the Super Bowl. And I thought them

1881
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 1: the accumulation of these things might have a significant impact

1882
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:45,680
Speaker 1: on ownership. But you know what, it didn't because the

1883
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 1: reality of it is here. We are in two thousand

1884
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:50,400
Speaker 1: and twenty one and Eric B. Enemy, who's been the

1885
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:53,160
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator of the Kansas City Chiefs for the last

1886
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:56,880
Speaker 1: three years, a period in which no Andy Reid team

1887
01:40:56,880 --> 01:40:59,360
Speaker 1: has had the same level of success, and he reads

1888
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:02,160
Speaker 1: a future Hall of Fame coach. Both Matt Nage and

1889
01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:04,960
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, who held the job before Eric B. Enemy

1890
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:07,439
Speaker 1: both went on to become head coaches. Eric B. Enemy

1891
01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:09,760
Speaker 1: can't get a head coaching job. So I understanding theory

1892
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:11,840
Speaker 1: of what you're saying, and I used to I used

1893
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 1: to really think along the same lines, but I no

1894
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:17,639
Speaker 1: longer do here in Buffalo. We were keeping close track

1895
01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:19,559
Speaker 1: of all the Hires because we thought we might lose

1896
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:22,160
Speaker 1: Leslie Frasier or Brian day Ball to the chart. We

1897
01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 1: thought there was going to be the Chargers or maybe

1898
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:27,479
Speaker 1: even within the division to the Jets. It neither one happened.

1899
01:41:27,479 --> 01:41:29,559
Speaker 1: And of course Leslie Frasier had a second interview in

1900
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:32,640
Speaker 1: Houston before they decided on David Culley. And today we

1901
01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:35,479
Speaker 1: saw the Houston Texans and this a little off the

1902
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:37,920
Speaker 1: topic of we were just talking about, but they come on.

1903
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:41,160
Speaker 1: The first thing out of the Houston Texans mouth is

1904
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:46,599
Speaker 1: that they are organizationally committed to Deshaun Watson. Now this

1905
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:50,240
Speaker 1: is not like the NBA where the players kind of

1906
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:53,320
Speaker 1: pick sides, you know what I mean. But Deshaun Watson

1907
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:55,280
Speaker 1: has kind of put a stake in the ground and

1908
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 1: say listen, I want traded, and the organization, at least

1909
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 1: at this early stage of the offseason said we ain't

1910
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 1: doing it. How do you think that works out in Houston?

1911
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:06,640
Speaker 1: And how much of an effect did that whole situation

1912
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 1: have on their ability to pick the guy they wanted

1913
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 1: as head coach? And how many guys might have said no,

1914
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:17,439
Speaker 1: thank you. Well, a lot of things impacted. First of all,

1915
01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 1: the word around the league is is a lot of

1916
01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:22,880
Speaker 1: people didn't want that job, and it's not surprising. Their

1917
01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 1: cap situation isn't the best in the league. They've traded

1918
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 1: the way picks and you have this generational franchise player

1919
01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:32,679
Speaker 1: at quarterback, his generational talent, and he's made it clear

1920
01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:35,960
Speaker 1: he wants out now. Reportedly, Deshaun told the Texans two

1921
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 1: weeks ago that he was gone or that he wanted

1922
01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 1: out no matter what. You're absolutely right, this is not

1923
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:44,040
Speaker 1: the NBA. Players just don't get to force trades as

1924
01:42:44,080 --> 01:42:46,599
Speaker 1: easily as they do in the NBA. But here's the thing.

1925
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:50,439
Speaker 1: The Houston Texans made Deshaun Watson, Deshaun Watson the second

1926
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:53,680
Speaker 1: highest paid player in the history of the NFL. He

1927
01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:57,120
Speaker 1: is so disgusted with that ownership group and management that

1928
01:42:57,280 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 1: he shortly after signing that contractatively shortly, wants out now.

1929
01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:06,519
Speaker 1: He just completed his age twenty five seasons. Yeah, they

1930
01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:08,240
Speaker 1: could play hardball and then they could say, well, no,

1931
01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 1: de Deshaun, We're not trading you now. If you do that, though,

1932
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:16,240
Speaker 1: given the problems that that organization has had the missteps

1933
01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:19,280
Speaker 1: that ownership has made. If you do that and then

1934
01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 1: what he does he force it? Does he say Okay,

1935
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:25,280
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna retire. Then now they still retain his rights.

1936
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:27,280
Speaker 1: But then you have a situation where maybe he just

1937
01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:30,880
Speaker 1: sits out a year, And do you really want to

1938
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 1: take the chance on making this situation go any longer

1939
01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 1: than it has to go? Because, yeah, you can make

1940
01:43:36,280 --> 01:43:38,439
Speaker 1: him burn a year of his career, okay, and if

1941
01:43:38,439 --> 01:43:40,599
Speaker 1: you're vindictive, maybe even try to make him burn too.

1942
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:43,599
Speaker 1: I don't know, But the reality of it is, DeShawn

1943
01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:46,120
Speaker 1: Watson has made it clear he is done with the

1944
01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:50,240
Speaker 1: Houston Texans and in that situation, it's not the NBA.

1945
01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:53,560
Speaker 1: But do you really want to have this thing continue?

1946
01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:56,840
Speaker 1: And believe me, I covered the Washington football team when

1947
01:43:56,840 --> 01:44:00,360
Speaker 1: they had situations kind of like this occur often and

1948
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 1: what happens is the locker room gets to just be

1949
01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:06,599
Speaker 1: it gets people are furious in the locker room. It's

1950
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:09,439
Speaker 1: a drag in the organization. It's constantly in the media,

1951
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:13,240
Speaker 1: it's constantly on the radio, it's constantly on TV. It's

1952
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:15,240
Speaker 1: one of these things that if you're an organization and

1953
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:17,280
Speaker 1: you actually want to try to win. It's not a

1954
01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:20,240
Speaker 1: situation you want to drag on. Yeah, the Kirk Cousins

1955
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:24,000
Speaker 1: situation I think is a perfect example. Yeah, and you

1956
01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:26,679
Speaker 1: mentioned the NBA, Jason and this it sparked this thought

1957
01:44:26,720 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 1: in my head because the NBA right now is not

1958
01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:31,280
Speaker 1: doing a whole lot better than the NFL in terms

1959
01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 1: of black head coaches. I think there's only five right

1960
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:36,599
Speaker 1: now in the NBA, and you know, you go back

1961
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:39,479
Speaker 1: to twenty twelve, they had I want to say, upwards

1962
01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:41,880
Speaker 1: of twelve or thirteen black head coaches in the league,

1963
01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:45,559
Speaker 1: you know, eight nine years ago. So I know al

1964
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:49,040
Speaker 1: Adam Silver has been very outspoken about that, the NBA commissioner,

1965
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 1: saying we have to do better as well. Do you

1966
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:53,840
Speaker 1: Is there anything that can be done in terms of

1967
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:56,880
Speaker 1: these professional leagues maybe putting their heads together to try

1968
01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:58,599
Speaker 1: to come up with some kind of a solution, because

1969
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:02,000
Speaker 1: this is not just an NFL problem. Yeah, you know,

1970
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:05,280
Speaker 1: the the NBA has a reputation just being a much

1971
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:07,680
Speaker 1: more progressive league because they have done better on the

1972
01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:11,280
Speaker 1: hiring front than the NFL in terms of leagues coming together.

1973
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:15,920
Speaker 1: I mean, guys, it really is a very simple yet

1974
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:19,880
Speaker 1: difficult problem. The owners don't want these guys. I mean

1975
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:23,160
Speaker 1: we can. We can talk around you know, Rooney rule

1976
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:27,360
Speaker 1: and incentivizing hiring. We can. In the NFL in this

1977
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 1: past off season, Roger Goodell, Troy Vincent, the league office,

1978
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:34,479
Speaker 1: these guys put their heads together, they had they brought

1979
01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:36,960
Speaker 1: in more people, they brought an experts to advise them.

1980
01:45:37,160 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 1: They sat down with the as they always do with

1981
01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:41,679
Speaker 1: the Fritz Poalo, thelliance which advises them on these matters,

1982
01:45:41,960 --> 01:45:44,880
Speaker 1: and they put in a ton of work and the

1983
01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:48,320
Speaker 1: result was this hiring cycle. And the result was a

1984
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 1: hiring cycle that was horrible in terms of the head coaches.

1985
01:45:51,320 --> 01:45:55,320
Speaker 1: So I don't really know what more can be done

1986
01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:57,760
Speaker 1: as long as the owners are going to dig in

1987
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:01,840
Speaker 1: and the look the owners, just if you're an owner,

1988
01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:03,320
Speaker 1: you want you want to take these guys. You want

1989
01:46:03,320 --> 01:46:05,200
Speaker 1: to look at these guys as simons. You want to

1990
01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 1: look at these guys. This is a guy I could

1991
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:08,760
Speaker 1: bringing my club, or I can have a bear with,

1992
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:10,680
Speaker 1: or I could you know, I love this, you know,

1993
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 1: I'd be cool with this guy marrying my daughter, so

1994
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:17,080
Speaker 1: to speak. Until the owners look at these black assistant

1995
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:18,920
Speaker 1: coaches and these other coaches of color and say you

1996
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:20,840
Speaker 1: know what, this is a guy who I want to

1997
01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:22,759
Speaker 1: be the face of my team. It's just not gonna happen.

1998
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:25,640
Speaker 1: And as we see this hiring cycle, and you go

1999
01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:29,560
Speaker 1: down the list of Jacksonville, the Jets, the Falcons, the Chargers,

2000
01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:32,880
Speaker 1: the Lions, the Eagles, and of course the Texans, who

2001
01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:34,960
Speaker 1: we've been talking about. Which one of those clubs is

2002
01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:38,160
Speaker 1: set up from quicker success by whoever took the job.

2003
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:41,799
Speaker 1: What's the best place? Oh my, oh my goodness. The Chargers.

2004
01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:45,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you have Herbert, this this kid that so

2005
01:46:45,320 --> 01:46:47,719
Speaker 1: many people in the league did not realize how great

2006
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:50,080
Speaker 1: he was going to be at the most important position.

2007
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:52,880
Speaker 1: You have talent on defense, you get you're getting yourself healthy,

2008
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:55,920
Speaker 1: uh you know, presumably in the offseason, you're getting yourself healthy.

2009
01:46:56,080 --> 01:46:59,040
Speaker 1: So that Chargers job, I mean that, that's a great job.

2010
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:02,840
Speaker 1: Now to look at the NFL, everybody's a play away

2011
01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:05,920
Speaker 1: from you know, not being able to play anymore and

2012
01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:07,679
Speaker 1: all that type of stuff. You got to manage your cap.

2013
01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:11,080
Speaker 1: But just looking at the situation overall with what we

2014
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:13,640
Speaker 1: know today, Oh, I love that Charges job. You can

2015
01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:16,360
Speaker 1: do big things with that. And and they hired a

2016
01:47:16,439 --> 01:47:22,080
Speaker 1: guy who was in Division three football four years ago. Um,

2017
01:47:22,120 --> 01:47:28,320
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, out of nowhere? Why did they What

2018
01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:31,040
Speaker 1: do they thinking? I think we know why? Why why

2019
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:33,599
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley? Why not? Why not any of the other

2020
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:35,479
Speaker 1: you know, candidates that were coming, you know what I mean.

2021
01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:37,320
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy came out of left field. I

2022
01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:39,280
Speaker 1: didn't know he was even I didn't know he was

2023
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:43,040
Speaker 1: even a candidate. How what what did they land on

2024
01:47:43,479 --> 01:47:46,080
Speaker 1: that gave them Brandon Staley? A thirty seven year old

2025
01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:51,240
Speaker 1: guy who uh has his resume? Well, look, I mean,

2026
01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:54,080
Speaker 1: let's give Brandon still leaves. Dude. He put together a

2027
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:57,760
Speaker 1: fabulous defense this past with the Los Angeles Rams. Now,

2028
01:47:57,800 --> 01:48:02,200
Speaker 1: granted he has a generational talent in Aaron Donald. Uh,

2029
01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:04,240
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you know one of the best defensive

2030
01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:07,519
Speaker 1: linemen that ever lived, Jalen Ramsey. You know, they're all

2031
01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 1: all pro cornerback. I don't know if if it'll passing league,

2032
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:14,360
Speaker 1: with the passing rules that currently exists, if Jalen Ramsey

2033
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:17,439
Speaker 1: can be overpaid, I really don't. So, you know, he

2034
01:48:17,479 --> 01:48:20,040
Speaker 1: had great players, but yeah, he put together a great defense. Now,

2035
01:48:20,120 --> 01:48:24,240
Speaker 1: having said that, you're talking about a guy who four

2036
01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:27,280
Speaker 1: years ago was a position coach just breaking into the league.

2037
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:31,320
Speaker 1: Guy coach outside backers, which there's nothing wrong with that.

2038
01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:33,280
Speaker 1: There are a lot of great position coaches in the NFL.

2039
01:48:33,640 --> 01:48:36,960
Speaker 1: But but Sean McVay, the Los Angeles Rams, wonder can

2040
01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:41,320
Speaker 1: head coach, the the you know, the young, the young genius.

2041
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:43,479
Speaker 1: Sean McVay identified him and say, hey, this is a

2042
01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:45,120
Speaker 1: guy I think can do big things. And then he

2043
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:48,240
Speaker 1: went and did big things. Now all the owners were

2044
01:48:48,240 --> 01:48:51,439
Speaker 1: looking are are are still looking for the next Sean McVeigh.

2045
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:54,559
Speaker 1: So Sean McVay picks the guy and says, this is

2046
01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:58,080
Speaker 1: my guy, and the guy has success. I figured it

2047
01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:00,680
Speaker 1: would be next year's hiring cycling again hired, But no,

2048
01:49:01,120 --> 01:49:03,160
Speaker 1: If Sean mcvasays this is my guy and the guy

2049
01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:06,439
Speaker 1: blows up, he's gonna get hired. We're talking to Jason

2050
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:09,760
Speaker 1: Reid from The Undefeated, and I know you recently had

2051
01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:12,120
Speaker 1: a piece Jason on you know, the clash of error

2052
01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:14,160
Speaker 1: is coming up here in the Super Bowl between Mahomes

2053
01:49:14,200 --> 01:49:17,880
Speaker 1: and Brady. In a way too, it's kind of a

2054
01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:22,200
Speaker 1: clash of conferences in terms of quarterbacks because I know

2055
01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 1: the NFC has Kyler Murray and one or two other

2056
01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:28,160
Speaker 1: younger qbs, but the vast majority of the next generation

2057
01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:31,280
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks reside in the AFC. It's gonna make for

2058
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:35,920
Speaker 1: a very competitive landscape in that conference. But why don't

2059
01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:38,040
Speaker 1: you address first just the clash of airs that you

2060
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:41,400
Speaker 1: outlined in your piece on Mahomes and Brady this you know,

2061
01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:43,800
Speaker 1: a week from Sunday, and then just your thoughts. I'm

2062
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:46,760
Speaker 1: curious on how the AFC is stacking up with all

2063
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:51,320
Speaker 1: this young quarterback talent. Now. Well, yeah, without a doubt

2064
01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 1: that the Mahomes Brady matchup it was the best one

2065
01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:58,680
Speaker 1: possible for the Super Bowl. I mean, obviously, Brady the

2066
01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:03,200
Speaker 1: Goat the the six Super Bowl Championships. He leaves Belichick

2067
01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:06,479
Speaker 1: in New England and goes to Tampa Bay and leads

2068
01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:08,519
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay to become the first team in NFL history

2069
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:11,120
Speaker 1: to play a Super Bowl on its home field. And

2070
01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:12,680
Speaker 1: then on the other side of the bracket you have

2071
01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:15,880
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes who's six and one in the playoffs in

2072
01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:19,080
Speaker 1: his young career. His only loss is to the Goat

2073
01:50:19,479 --> 01:50:22,400
Speaker 1: in an overtime at Kansas City, an NFC title game

2074
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:25,639
Speaker 1: where D four doesn't jump off sides. Maybe the Chiefs

2075
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:27,160
Speaker 1: are looking at going for three in a row right

2076
01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 1: now the Super Bowl. So I just think that when

2077
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:34,040
Speaker 1: you talk about what the NFL is about. The NFL

2078
01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:36,880
Speaker 1: is about ultimately super Bowl championships, and you have a

2079
01:50:36,920 --> 01:50:39,360
Speaker 1: guy who has the most all time going up against

2080
01:50:39,400 --> 01:50:43,000
Speaker 1: the guy who is, by all accounts you talk to

2081
01:50:43,080 --> 01:50:46,960
Speaker 1: anyone in this league is currently the guy and could

2082
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:49,640
Speaker 1: be the guy and maybe the greatest guy ever depending

2083
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:52,360
Speaker 1: on health and longevity and all that. And they meet

2084
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:54,880
Speaker 1: in the super Bowl. You know, this whole year with

2085
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:57,320
Speaker 1: COVID and everything else, the NFL managed to get to

2086
01:50:57,439 --> 01:51:00,160
Speaker 1: the finish line, and they got to the finish line,

2087
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:02,479
Speaker 1: and you know what, they're gonna put on a great show.

2088
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:05,439
Speaker 1: And then just your thoughts on the AFC landscape with

2089
01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:07,200
Speaker 1: all these young quarters, they're gonna get another one and

2090
01:51:07,240 --> 01:51:09,439
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence in Jacksonville. But by the time we get

2091
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:13,880
Speaker 1: to next season, yeah, well, look the quarterback play on

2092
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:16,920
Speaker 1: the AFC side of it, clearly, you look at it

2093
01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:20,759
Speaker 1: starts with Mahomes, Lamar Jackson. You know, won the MVP

2094
01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:24,799
Speaker 1: last year. Um, you know you've got your guy Alan.

2095
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:29,160
Speaker 1: I mean, look, if if it wasn't for Mahomes and Watson,

2096
01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:31,679
Speaker 1: I think everybody would be I mean, people are still

2097
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:35,200
Speaker 1: talking about Alan, but this guy is when you talk

2098
01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:38,880
Speaker 1: about everything you want at that position, like Buffalo, I

2099
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:41,080
Speaker 1: don't think anybody's gonna be celebrating Buffalo getting back to

2100
01:51:41,080 --> 01:51:43,439
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I think the thing with Buffalo now is

2101
01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:47,680
Speaker 1: gonna be Alan is gonna battle with with Watson. He's

2102
01:51:47,680 --> 01:51:50,600
Speaker 1: gonna battle with Watson if he's in the division, in

2103
01:51:50,640 --> 01:51:54,640
Speaker 1: the conference, but he's definitely gonna battle with Mahomes Lamar Jackson.

2104
01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:56,800
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are gonna be going out a

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01:51:56,880 --> 01:51:59,120
Speaker 1: year year in a year out and and like it's

2106
01:51:59,200 --> 01:52:01,760
Speaker 1: like I said, I don't anybody's gonna celebrating Buffalo making

2107
01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:04,360
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I think the bar for Buffalo is now

2108
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:08,280
Speaker 1: gonna be Buffalo breaking through and winning that super Bowl

2109
01:52:08,280 --> 01:52:10,680
Speaker 1: because they've got a quarterback who can definitely do it.

2110
01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:14,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, Um, you look at the Nfcy Brady's era,

2111
01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:18,280
Speaker 1: like they all end eventually. I mean, eventually he's gonna

2112
01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:21,720
Speaker 1: stop playing. We see that Aaron Well, we think I

2113
01:52:21,720 --> 01:52:24,679
Speaker 1: mean Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers is gonna win the MVP

2114
01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:28,280
Speaker 1: this year. Russell Wilson had another great year. Kyler Murray's coming.

2115
01:52:28,600 --> 01:52:31,360
Speaker 1: But when you look at the AFC, when you look

2116
01:52:31,400 --> 01:52:34,799
Speaker 1: at this town, like like, I didn't travel all season

2117
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:38,120
Speaker 1: because of because of COVID and all that time. But

2118
01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:40,400
Speaker 1: I definitely wanted to go to the NC Championship game

2119
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:42,920
Speaker 1: because I wanted to see mahomes An all. I mean,

2120
01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:45,360
Speaker 1: I wanted to be in the stadium, not watching on TV.

2121
01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:48,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to see that game. Buffalo has so much

2122
01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:51,880
Speaker 1: to feel great about. That Digs trade was outstanding, And

2123
01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, like, I don't think anybody's gonna care

2124
01:52:55,120 --> 01:52:56,840
Speaker 1: about getting back to the playoffs and Buffalo where I

2125
01:52:56,840 --> 01:53:00,800
Speaker 1: think that over the next ten years, this guy stays healthy.

2126
01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:03,120
Speaker 1: The only thing he's got to do is breakthrough against

2127
01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 1: Kansas City because he's gonna be back in the tournament

2128
01:53:04,920 --> 01:53:06,439
Speaker 1: every day. And you think about it the next two

2129
01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:08,680
Speaker 1: or three years, if you know, if indeed you know

2130
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:11,880
Speaker 1: the end comes for Brady Drew Brees, is gonna say

2131
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:15,679
Speaker 1: goods sensibly say goodbye. Philip Rivers already has said goodbye,

2132
01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:21,160
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger. What another year, maybe two players of that caliber,

2133
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:23,160
Speaker 1: who all of them, you know, got a shot, if

2134
01:53:23,200 --> 01:53:25,800
Speaker 1: not first ballot, certainly gonna end up with a bust

2135
01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:30,719
Speaker 1: in Canton. That's a generation. And we saw Eli Leaf

2136
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:32,760
Speaker 1: just you know, a year and a half two years ago.

2137
01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:37,360
Speaker 1: It's a generational passing of the torch to guys like

2138
01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:41,760
Speaker 1: mahomes Lamar Jackson, Jet and Josh Allen, Deshaun Watson, all

2139
01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:43,920
Speaker 1: these guys. And then you got another generation that's right

2140
01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:46,760
Speaker 1: behind him in Justin Herbert and Joe Burrow, all these

2141
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:50,080
Speaker 1: guys that are coming in. We've never, never in history

2142
01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:53,439
Speaker 1: have we had this many really good young quarterbacks in

2143
01:53:53,479 --> 01:53:56,719
Speaker 1: the league. Has it become easier to play that position?

2144
01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:01,639
Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't think I'm not not in the NFL.

2145
01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:06,280
Speaker 1: You know, people people talk a lot about well what

2146
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:09,480
Speaker 1: they see in terms of the you know, the production.

2147
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:11,519
Speaker 1: But you know, you you talk to these coaches, you

2148
01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:14,599
Speaker 1: talk to player personnel people, it's still hard finding these guys.

2149
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:16,840
Speaker 1: You know, it's still hard finding the guys who can

2150
01:54:16,920 --> 01:54:19,320
Speaker 1: make all the throws. You know that you know on

2151
01:54:19,320 --> 01:54:22,280
Speaker 1: that on that route tree. You know, it's very difficult

2152
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:25,479
Speaker 1: to find guys who can read it and you know,

2153
01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:29,320
Speaker 1: have the pocket presence and the footwork and everything else

2154
01:54:29,360 --> 01:54:31,280
Speaker 1: that goes into it, and the pressure that goes into it.

2155
01:54:31,479 --> 01:54:33,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I mean the money that's out

2156
01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:35,640
Speaker 1: there now, Yeah, the rookie contract money, isn't what it

2157
01:54:35,840 --> 01:54:37,440
Speaker 1: used to be. But if you're if you're a top

2158
01:54:37,480 --> 01:54:40,280
Speaker 1: flight quarterback, if you're a top flight quarterback talent, and

2159
01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:43,320
Speaker 1: you get past that rookie contract, you're talking about more

2160
01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:45,400
Speaker 1: money than like you know, has ever been in the

2161
01:54:45,480 --> 01:54:49,000
Speaker 1: game before. So I don't think it's easier. I think

2162
01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:53,480
Speaker 1: that there are certain guys, the mahomes Is, the the Allen's,

2163
01:54:53,720 --> 01:54:57,360
Speaker 1: the Watson's um you know, Lamar Jackson's is a little

2164
01:54:57,360 --> 01:55:00,200
Speaker 1: bit of a different animal, but but definitely obviously very

2165
01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:04,440
Speaker 1: highly successful. I think what happens is these guys there's

2166
01:55:04,840 --> 01:55:09,480
Speaker 1: they have such immense talent, and it swirls us into thinking,

2167
01:55:09,520 --> 01:55:11,120
Speaker 1: I think to a degree that well, there are a

2168
01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:12,960
Speaker 1: lot of guys out there could do it. No, there

2169
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:14,680
Speaker 1: are not a lot of guys, because they're thirty two

2170
01:55:14,680 --> 01:55:17,520
Speaker 1: teams in this league and you can count on two

2171
01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:20,480
Speaker 1: hands the teams that have quarterbacks who you consider true

2172
01:55:20,520 --> 01:55:23,680
Speaker 1: franchise quarterbacks and guys who you can truly win with,

2173
01:55:24,040 --> 01:55:27,520
Speaker 1: and the rest of them are just guys. Jason, thanks

2174
01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:29,280
Speaker 1: very much for the time in the NCAA today. We

2175
01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:31,400
Speaker 1: appreciate you giving us a little time here on a Friday.

2176
01:55:31,480 --> 01:55:35,800
Speaker 1: Enjoy the Super Bowl a week from Sunday anytime, fellas,

2177
01:55:35,840 --> 01:55:39,600
Speaker 1: thank you, Jess. Jason read from The Undefeated does some

2178
01:55:39,640 --> 01:55:41,880
Speaker 1: good work over there. It's a it's a it's an

2179
01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:45,640
Speaker 1: extended arm of ESPN dot com The Undefeated where they

2180
01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:48,240
Speaker 1: kind of get into more of the cultural facets of

2181
01:55:48,320 --> 01:55:52,880
Speaker 1: sports and how it intersects between race and sports and stuff.

2182
01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:54,800
Speaker 1: And that's why we thought you'd be a good guy

2183
01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:57,080
Speaker 1: to talk about. You know, this what had to be

2184
01:55:57,120 --> 01:56:01,320
Speaker 1: a disappointing hiring cycle for minority any candidates. I mean,

2185
01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:04,880
Speaker 1: it's just it's not good enough. It's not good enough,

2186
01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:08,280
Speaker 1: and we've been saying that for far too long unfortunately. Um.

2187
01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:11,560
Speaker 1: And as Jason said, I mean, he doesn't expect it

2188
01:56:11,600 --> 01:56:16,680
Speaker 1: to change. I mean short of minority ownership in this league,

2189
01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:19,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know how or when it's going

2190
01:56:19,120 --> 01:56:21,800
Speaker 1: to change. Yeah, it's an He's right though. It is

2191
01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:25,120
Speaker 1: an interpersonal thing because when you're an owner of an

2192
01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:28,480
Speaker 1: NFL team, you're you're you're part of that family there.

2193
01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:32,040
Speaker 1: I mean the head coach, the general manager, the top

2194
01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:34,800
Speaker 1: personnel people, the vice presidents of you know, BIZ DEEV

2195
01:56:34,840 --> 01:56:38,120
Speaker 1: and all those things there. Um, they work closely with

2196
01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:42,720
Speaker 1: the owner and Um, it's a small group and if

2197
01:56:42,920 --> 01:56:45,600
Speaker 1: if you if you don't have any any any people

2198
01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:48,600
Speaker 1: and minorities in your in your inner circle, Um, you

2199
01:56:48,640 --> 01:56:52,400
Speaker 1: never get past that hump of of you know, interacting

2200
01:56:52,520 --> 01:56:55,200
Speaker 1: and getting to where it's like, you know, you need

2201
01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:58,000
Speaker 1: the you need you need to beat the bushes to

2202
01:56:58,040 --> 01:57:00,400
Speaker 1: find the absolute best candidate, no matter where they come from,

2203
01:57:00,520 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 1: what they look like, and it's hard to do. It's

2204
01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:06,200
Speaker 1: hard to do for a you know, a group of

2205
01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:10,120
Speaker 1: owners who you know don't get out out of that

2206
01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:12,920
Speaker 1: circle that you know, they're doing business constantly. Yeah right,

2207
01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:15,880
Speaker 1: I mean it's like their lunch is a business meeting

2208
01:57:15,920 --> 01:57:18,360
Speaker 1: always because they've got a lot of things going on,

2209
01:57:18,440 --> 01:57:20,360
Speaker 1: so they don't get to go out and have a

2210
01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:22,200
Speaker 1: pop with everybody, you know. I don't know, it's just

2211
01:57:22,800 --> 01:57:26,840
Speaker 1: He's right, it's an interpersonal thing, and you know it's

2212
01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:32,320
Speaker 1: a it's a demographic that's hard to crack into. Uh.

2213
01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:34,040
Speaker 1: We have to go to break here soon. But I

2214
01:57:34,120 --> 01:57:36,120
Speaker 1: do want to point this out. I meant to do

2215
01:57:36,160 --> 01:57:38,520
Speaker 1: this earlier in the show and just slip my mind.

2216
01:57:39,240 --> 01:57:44,760
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins has made an interesting decision Steve on social media.

2217
01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:48,360
Speaker 1: He has decided that he is going to take the

2218
01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:50,880
Speaker 1: Hail Murray play that he made against the Bills in

2219
01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:56,720
Speaker 1: Week ten in Arizona, and he has apparently decided he

2220
01:57:56,880 --> 01:58:01,360
Speaker 1: is going to make a chain out of it with

2221
01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:04,760
Speaker 1: the three names of Buffalo's three defensive backs who were

2222
01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:08,120
Speaker 1: around him on the play, with a cemetery on it.

2223
01:58:11,440 --> 01:58:13,760
Speaker 1: What the hell are you doing, dude? Like, do you

2224
01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:17,400
Speaker 1: really need this as a jewelry item? Do you really

2225
01:58:17,400 --> 01:58:20,000
Speaker 1: need this as a jewelry item? The Houston trades kind

2226
01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:26,240
Speaker 1: of making more sense. Yeah right, I mean, not for nothing.

2227
01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:31,000
Speaker 1: This play wasn't made in the super Bowl, Okay, and

2228
01:58:31,040 --> 01:58:32,280
Speaker 1: that's all you got to say. Say, Hey, it was

2229
01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:35,200
Speaker 1: a nice season. Good for you guys, you won eight games.

2230
01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:39,800
Speaker 1: Congratulations you didn't make the playoffs. You're gonna document this

2231
01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:42,640
Speaker 1: on a piece of jewelry, and then you're gonna insult

2232
01:58:42,680 --> 01:58:45,400
Speaker 1: the three guys that you beat on the play and

2233
01:58:45,800 --> 01:58:48,720
Speaker 1: put their names on tombstones. Presumably he's putting their names

2234
01:58:48,720 --> 01:58:50,920
Speaker 1: in a cemetery. I mean, I'm assuming they're gonna be

2235
01:58:51,200 --> 01:58:55,120
Speaker 1: He's gonna have poyer white and hide on tombstones on

2236
01:58:55,160 --> 01:58:59,440
Speaker 1: a piece of jewelry hanging off his neck. Yeah. Well,

2237
01:58:59,680 --> 01:59:01,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know about you, Steve. But if

2238
01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:04,640
Speaker 1: I'm Micah High, Jordan Poyer or Jordavious White and I

2239
01:59:04,640 --> 01:59:07,520
Speaker 1: see him wearing that in public, I'm making him eat it.

2240
01:59:08,800 --> 01:59:12,320
Speaker 1: It's going write down his throat if that's me. Yeah,

2241
01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:15,680
Speaker 1: that's right. I mean, that's just It's one thing to be,

2242
01:59:17,200 --> 01:59:20,360
Speaker 1: you know, a store loser, poor sportsmanship or whatever. This

2243
01:59:20,440 --> 01:59:23,560
Speaker 1: takes it to another level. Man, Like, come on, you're

2244
01:59:23,600 --> 01:59:26,680
Speaker 1: consitt You're widely considered one of the top three receivers

2245
01:59:26,720 --> 01:59:30,480
Speaker 1: in the entire league. Do you need to take that step?

2246
01:59:31,680 --> 01:59:36,400
Speaker 1: You know you want to. I'll even say this, you

2247
01:59:36,440 --> 01:59:39,400
Speaker 1: want to take a photo and like turn it into

2248
01:59:39,440 --> 01:59:43,040
Speaker 1: like a little medallion where you're catching the ball over

2249
01:59:43,120 --> 01:59:45,480
Speaker 1: three guys and put that on a chain. It's fantast

2250
01:59:45,640 --> 01:59:48,840
Speaker 1: okay with that? Yeah, great physical players, fate, it's a

2251
01:59:48,960 --> 01:59:51,480
Speaker 1: it's a fantastic moment for him in his career, and

2252
01:59:51,480 --> 01:59:53,080
Speaker 1: and and it was a great moment for it was

2253
01:59:53,120 --> 01:59:55,240
Speaker 1: the moment of the season for their for their team.

2254
01:59:55,720 --> 01:59:58,520
Speaker 1: Um and I and I have no problem with him.

2255
01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:00,320
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta get a copy that, put that

2256
02:00:00,360 --> 02:00:02,360
Speaker 1: in your office, right, I mean, that's a moment and

2257
02:00:02,400 --> 02:00:05,280
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. Yeah, absolutely, But don't don't go

2258
02:00:05,320 --> 02:00:08,240
Speaker 1: to this length. I'm gonna get a chain made. This

2259
02:00:08,320 --> 02:00:10,760
Speaker 1: is a direct quote. I'm gonna get a chain made

2260
02:00:10,760 --> 02:00:14,080
Speaker 1: with their three names and a cemetery on it. So

2261
02:00:14,160 --> 02:00:17,440
Speaker 1: my assumption is their three names are gonna be on tombstones.

2262
02:00:18,560 --> 02:00:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, man, you went over the line there. Yeah,

2263
02:00:21,640 --> 02:00:24,040
Speaker 1: that's a little bit, and that's where you're like just

2264
02:00:24,120 --> 02:00:26,280
Speaker 1: making fun of your opponents, and you're over the lines.

2265
02:00:26,360 --> 02:00:29,040
Speaker 1: And if you're gonna do that, and I see you

2266
02:00:29,120 --> 02:00:32,600
Speaker 1: on the street, I'm ripping that thing off your neck

2267
02:00:32,640 --> 02:00:34,680
Speaker 1: and I'm putting it down your throat. I'm sorry. I'm

2268
02:00:34,680 --> 02:00:37,000
Speaker 1: not a violent person by nature, but that's over the line.

2269
02:00:37,000 --> 02:00:39,440
Speaker 1: And that's too far. Now, you're insulting my pride and

2270
02:00:39,480 --> 02:00:42,600
Speaker 1: my ability as a player, and that doesn't that doesn't fly.

2271
02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:47,200
Speaker 1: That doesn't fly. You're documenting you beating me on a

2272
02:00:47,280 --> 02:00:49,800
Speaker 1: play by putting my name in a cemetery like I'm

2273
02:00:49,840 --> 02:00:53,280
Speaker 1: a dead man walking. It would be one thing. Yeah. Yeah,

2274
02:00:53,320 --> 02:00:56,520
Speaker 1: well there you go. That's my rant for today on

2275
02:00:56,560 --> 02:01:00,520
Speaker 1: behalf in defense of In defense of my guide Trdavious

2276
02:01:00,560 --> 02:01:03,000
Speaker 1: White and Jordan Poyer, who are all good players in

2277
02:01:03,040 --> 02:01:06,480
Speaker 1: their own right. DeAndre Hopkins gotta go walking down that path.

2278
02:01:06,840 --> 02:01:10,200
Speaker 1: Come on, I mean, just be better, just be better

2279
02:01:10,240 --> 02:01:14,480
Speaker 1: than that, be better. Unaccepted that. I'll take us into

2280
02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:18,080
Speaker 1: the weekend right there, break time for us. When we

2281
02:01:18,160 --> 02:01:19,840
Speaker 1: come back, we'll get to some of your questions on

2282
02:01:19,840 --> 02:01:21,760
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet. We've yet to get there, and we've

2283
02:01:21,760 --> 02:01:23,600
Speaker 1: got to answer some of those questions that people send

2284
02:01:23,640 --> 02:01:25,880
Speaker 1: him for the obl fanmail bag. We'll get to that

2285
02:01:25,920 --> 02:01:28,160
Speaker 1: next Here on One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health,

2286
02:01:28,200 --> 02:01:42,360
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. We'll go back to One Bill's Live.

2287
02:01:42,480 --> 02:01:45,160
Speaker 1: Chris Brown Steve Tasker Review. Well, we'll get to the

2288
02:01:45,160 --> 02:01:47,880
Speaker 1: tweet sheet if we get a chance. I completely forgot Steve.

2289
02:01:48,320 --> 02:01:51,120
Speaker 1: It's time for another edition of Tasker's Teammate. So we

2290
02:01:51,240 --> 02:01:53,200
Speaker 1: usually do this earlier in the show, and that's why

2291
02:01:53,200 --> 02:01:55,360
Speaker 1: it slipped my mind. But Tasker's Team they brought to

2292
02:01:55,360 --> 02:01:59,200
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2293
02:01:59,240 --> 02:02:02,680
Speaker 1: the Wegman's app today. Steve, are you ready to see

2294
02:02:02,760 --> 02:02:05,520
Speaker 1: if you can guess which one of your former teammates

2295
02:02:05,600 --> 02:02:09,400
Speaker 1: I am describing? So ready, let's go Clue number one,

2296
02:02:10,520 --> 02:02:14,720
Speaker 1: A Georgia native. I was an all State performer in

2297
02:02:14,840 --> 02:02:20,360
Speaker 1: football and basketball in high school. Chris Moore. It is

2298
02:02:20,480 --> 02:02:25,880
Speaker 1: not Chris Moore basketball, football, and basketball. Clue number two,

2299
02:02:26,680 --> 02:02:30,680
Speaker 1: an eleventh round draft choice. I began my NFL career

2300
02:02:31,200 --> 02:02:33,840
Speaker 1: with the same club that Steve did, but we were

2301
02:02:33,880 --> 02:02:44,600
Speaker 1: not there at the same time. Wheels are turning, it's

2302
02:02:44,720 --> 02:02:51,600
Speaker 1: going through the teammate rolodex. I don't know, okay, go

2303
02:02:51,800 --> 02:02:55,920
Speaker 1: so we know the team right? Oilers? Yeah? Clue number three.

2304
02:02:57,280 --> 02:03:00,320
Speaker 1: I signed with the Bills as a free agent in

2305
02:03:00,560 --> 02:03:03,280
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine, along with a host of other key

2306
02:03:03,320 --> 02:03:07,480
Speaker 1: pieces for Buffalo's impending Super Bowl run, like James Lofton,

2307
02:03:07,640 --> 02:03:21,440
Speaker 1: Kenny Davis, and Mitch for Rott Mount Willie Drury's not correct.

2308
02:03:21,840 --> 02:03:25,360
Speaker 1: He was here for a minute, actually only on a visit.

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02:03:25,400 --> 02:03:37,520
Speaker 1: Who who did? Ste's eyes get wide sometimes when he

2310
02:03:37,600 --> 02:03:40,120
Speaker 1: thinks he knows it, or he thinks it's right there,

2311
02:03:40,200 --> 02:03:43,480
Speaker 1: or he has a hunch that just happened. I don't

2312
02:03:43,520 --> 02:03:45,160
Speaker 1: know if it's going to lead to a correct answer.

2313
02:03:45,240 --> 02:03:47,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay Za, give me those read them

2314
02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:50,160
Speaker 1: all again real quick. Georgia native ninth round draft performer

2315
02:03:50,200 --> 02:03:53,120
Speaker 1: in football and basketball in high school. Nine eleventh round

2316
02:03:53,200 --> 02:03:55,840
Speaker 1: draft Boys began my NFL career with the same club

2317
02:03:55,880 --> 02:03:57,720
Speaker 1: that Steve did, but we were not there at the

2318
02:03:57,760 --> 02:04:00,400
Speaker 1: same time. Signed with the Bills as a agent in

2319
02:04:00,480 --> 02:04:02,760
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine, along with a host of other key

2320
02:04:02,760 --> 02:04:06,040
Speaker 1: pieces for Buffalo. Became all right, So now we're up

2321
02:04:06,040 --> 02:04:09,000
Speaker 1: to clue number four. Okay, here ready. I became a

2322
02:04:09,080 --> 02:04:11,480
Speaker 1: starter for the first time in my career in my

2323
02:04:11,600 --> 02:04:14,280
Speaker 1: second season with the Bills and remained in that role

2324
02:04:14,760 --> 02:04:18,720
Speaker 1: for the next four years, which included all four Super

2325
02:04:18,760 --> 02:04:28,120
Speaker 1: Bowl seasons. A free agent number that one, Well, the

2326
02:04:28,160 --> 02:04:31,520
Speaker 1: Bill signed seven free agents in nineteen eighty nine, so

2327
02:04:31,600 --> 02:04:34,520
Speaker 1: that made the pool big enough where it made it

2328
02:04:34,560 --> 02:04:41,440
Speaker 1: tough to nail it down. I wasn't I wasn't Glenn Parker.

2329
02:04:41,880 --> 02:04:50,839
Speaker 1: It was not Glenn Parker. It was not just uh, gosh,

2330
02:04:50,880 --> 02:04:54,240
Speaker 1: hoops player? Or was it? Was it basketball? You said

2331
02:04:54,440 --> 02:04:59,560
Speaker 1: football and basketball and something in the great State of Georgia.

2332
02:05:00,520 --> 02:05:07,720
Speaker 1: Who could hoop? Oh? Wow? Are you ready for the

2333
02:05:07,760 --> 02:05:11,560
Speaker 1: next clue? Okay? Yeah? I was named the ed Block

2334
02:05:11,680 --> 02:05:14,480
Speaker 1: Courage Award winner for the Bills in nineteen ninety three

2335
02:05:14,480 --> 02:05:17,120
Speaker 1: after suffering a major knee injury late in the ninety

2336
02:05:17,120 --> 02:05:20,520
Speaker 1: one season that required surgery forced me to miss Super

2337
02:05:20,520 --> 02:05:23,160
Speaker 1: Bowl twenty six. I was able to come back from

2338
02:05:23,160 --> 02:05:25,240
Speaker 1: it and play a reserve role for the last ten

2339
02:05:25,320 --> 02:05:35,960
Speaker 1: games in nineteen ninety two injury? Who was that? This

2340
02:05:36,080 --> 02:05:38,440
Speaker 1: is delicious. I've really got Steve stumped on this one.

2341
02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:46,720
Speaker 1: I should know this for sure. Oh my gosh, m

2342
02:05:48,360 --> 02:05:52,640
Speaker 1: Tim Vogler. It is not Tim Vogler or his knee

2343
02:05:52,640 --> 02:05:54,640
Speaker 1: injury was like an eighty six or eighty seven. I

2344
02:05:54,680 --> 02:05:57,480
Speaker 1: think yeah, I'm in total. I was a teammate of

2345
02:05:57,520 --> 02:06:00,960
Speaker 1: Steve's for six seasons before I retire, ied capping an

2346
02:06:01,000 --> 02:06:11,680
Speaker 1: eight years hoops player. I'm gonna make it a little

2347
02:06:11,680 --> 02:06:14,000
Speaker 1: easier for him. Gonna give you the next clue. All right, Okay.

2348
02:06:14,680 --> 02:06:20,720
Speaker 1: In college, I earned the nickname Refrigerator Mover after capably

2349
02:06:20,800 --> 02:06:25,320
Speaker 1: handling William the Refrigerator Perry in a big victory over Clemson.

2350
02:06:27,560 --> 02:06:35,400
Speaker 1: Do you need the college you play at? Too? Who

2351
02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:38,960
Speaker 1: is that offensive lineman? Gotta be an offensive lineman? Going

2352
02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:43,000
Speaker 1: to John Davis? John Davis is correct, stage John Davis.

2353
02:06:43,040 --> 02:06:45,600
Speaker 1: There you go. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, John

2354
02:06:45,680 --> 02:06:51,560
Speaker 1: Davis cannot play basketball? Did you play basketball? He was

2355
02:06:51,600 --> 02:06:57,880
Speaker 1: all State? That's wonderful. I don't know whether to be embarrassed. Hilarious.

2356
02:06:58,040 --> 02:07:01,120
Speaker 1: That's what got I would never. I wouldn't. Now it

2357
02:07:01,440 --> 02:07:03,200
Speaker 1: makes sense because I remember you did come from the

2358
02:07:03,240 --> 02:07:05,880
Speaker 1: oiders because you used to talk about Matthews and munchacking

2359
02:07:05,960 --> 02:07:07,880
Speaker 1: those guys. He used to give you all kinds of trouble.

2360
02:07:08,520 --> 02:07:11,680
Speaker 1: But a side and a side note. When I signed

2361
02:07:11,680 --> 02:07:16,360
Speaker 1: with Georgia Tech Bobby Krimm and was rebuilding the basketball program,

2362
02:07:16,480 --> 02:07:18,600
Speaker 1: he told me I could come in, uh and and

2363
02:07:18,640 --> 02:07:22,240
Speaker 1: play with them after football season, but uh, Bill Curry

2364
02:07:22,360 --> 02:07:25,920
Speaker 1: quickly nixed that. And uh but I can't believe you did.

2365
02:07:27,640 --> 02:07:31,560
Speaker 1: I not. That's what I was affected. I perfected the

2366
02:07:31,560 --> 02:07:35,600
Speaker 1: three foot jumper. Yeah, let me tell you something. That's

2367
02:07:35,640 --> 02:07:37,920
Speaker 1: the way. I did not know about your hoops, gird.

2368
02:07:37,960 --> 02:07:39,720
Speaker 1: And that's what got me too, because I could not

2369
02:07:39,920 --> 02:07:43,360
Speaker 1: figure out who that was ol Man. See, I wouldn't.

2370
02:07:43,440 --> 02:07:45,880
Speaker 1: And the Houston thing threw me for a loop too.

2371
02:07:45,920 --> 02:07:48,920
Speaker 1: I've forgotten all about that as well. Yeah, we had

2372
02:07:48,960 --> 02:07:54,160
Speaker 1: the pleasure of experiencing the misery of them. Yeah it was, Yeah,

2373
02:07:54,160 --> 02:07:59,000
Speaker 1: it was. Yeah, Houston was a little miserable at that time. Yeah,

2374
02:07:59,480 --> 02:08:01,600
Speaker 1: how you doing, And see I'm doing, Grace. It's good

2375
02:08:01,600 --> 02:08:04,240
Speaker 1: to hear from you. Manere. Where's you? Where are you

2376
02:08:04,240 --> 02:08:07,640
Speaker 1: living these days? Well, I'm got in Atlanta, just outside

2377
02:08:07,680 --> 02:08:10,400
Speaker 1: of Atlanta, and but right now I'm in a place

2378
02:08:10,480 --> 02:08:18,960
Speaker 1: that jim Creek, Mount Pleasant over here, visiting some of

2379
02:08:18,960 --> 02:08:22,120
Speaker 1: my kids. All right, well, you gotta gotta stay hold them,

2380
02:08:22,240 --> 02:08:24,000
Speaker 1: hold the phone to your mouth because you're popping in

2381
02:08:24,040 --> 02:08:27,160
Speaker 1: and out a little bit. Okay, yeah, okay, what so

2382
02:08:27,240 --> 02:08:30,360
Speaker 1: you're he's in Mount Pleasant. You're in Mount Plea, South Carolina. No,

2383
02:08:30,520 --> 02:08:33,920
Speaker 1: just outside of Charleston. Yeah, okay, yeah, all right because

2384
02:08:33,920 --> 02:08:35,920
Speaker 1: my folks, my folks live in Summerville. That's the only

2385
02:08:35,960 --> 02:08:38,360
Speaker 1: reason it's familiar to me. Oh, I got you. Yeah,

2386
02:08:38,400 --> 02:08:42,240
Speaker 1: all right, look at you man down there. Nice. Yeah,

2387
02:08:42,320 --> 02:08:44,760
Speaker 1: you're one of the There was on that on Twitter

2388
02:08:44,840 --> 02:08:46,840
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago on the anniversary of the

2389
02:08:46,960 --> 02:08:49,320
Speaker 1: of the Comeback and not the Comeback Game. I think

2390
02:08:49,320 --> 02:08:53,280
Speaker 1: it was the Kansas City Chiefs championship game. The picture

2391
02:08:53,320 --> 02:08:58,560
Speaker 1: of you can't Jimmy Richard, Will Wolford Howard with Thurman

2392
02:08:58,640 --> 02:09:00,320
Speaker 1: standing in front of you after you ran a buck

2393
02:09:00,360 --> 02:09:02,520
Speaker 1: eighty six against the Chiefs in the championship game. Great

2394
02:09:02,560 --> 02:09:04,600
Speaker 1: picture that that was all over Twitter the other day

2395
02:09:04,800 --> 02:09:07,040
Speaker 1: a week or time. Yeah, that's one of my old

2396
02:09:07,040 --> 02:09:10,640
Speaker 1: time favorite ones. I've got that, uh framed and sitting

2397
02:09:10,680 --> 02:09:13,840
Speaker 1: in Hester's office and look at it every day. Yeah,

2398
02:09:13,840 --> 02:09:16,080
Speaker 1: it's yeah, I do, and it's it's not It's funny

2399
02:09:16,080 --> 02:09:17,760
Speaker 1: because all five of those guys, all six of those

2400
02:09:17,760 --> 02:09:19,840
Speaker 1: guys in the picture obviously have a copy of that

2401
02:09:20,040 --> 02:09:22,600
Speaker 1: pot you know who else does. Bud Carpenter has got

2402
02:09:22,600 --> 02:09:24,800
Speaker 1: a copy that and he's of course he's got them

2403
02:09:24,840 --> 02:09:28,960
Speaker 1: all a graft as well. But um, that that picture

2404
02:09:29,440 --> 02:09:32,120
Speaker 1: was was quite the moment. I remember that. That was.

2405
02:09:32,160 --> 02:09:34,280
Speaker 1: That was pretty awesome to see you five guys in

2406
02:09:34,480 --> 02:09:36,880
Speaker 1: and Thurmanston in front of you. Was at that time

2407
02:09:36,960 --> 02:09:40,760
Speaker 1: one of the highest off rushing attacks or rushing games

2408
02:09:41,120 --> 02:09:43,480
Speaker 1: in a in a change of playoff history or something.

2409
02:09:43,600 --> 02:09:47,360
Speaker 1: So congratulations to you. I appreciate it. That was a

2410
02:09:47,360 --> 02:09:49,480
Speaker 1: lot of fun, it was. And give our best to

2411
02:09:49,560 --> 02:09:51,720
Speaker 1: give Sarah, and I give our best to Hester and

2412
02:09:52,040 --> 02:09:54,960
Speaker 1: the rest of the family. I will you do the same.

2413
02:09:55,040 --> 02:10:00,720
Speaker 1: And uh, thanks for taking six questions, right, gotta be right,

2414
02:10:01,000 --> 02:10:04,640
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's a record. Well, I gotta tell you, John,

2415
02:10:05,200 --> 02:10:08,040
Speaker 1: that's the that's the best part of this whole thing,

2416
02:10:08,280 --> 02:10:11,760
Speaker 1: this whole segment that I thought up watching Steve squirm

2417
02:10:11,760 --> 02:10:14,560
Speaker 1: in his chair. It's, oh my gosh, it's just so

2418
02:10:14,640 --> 02:10:17,600
Speaker 1: much fun. Every single week when it happens. I did

2419
02:10:17,600 --> 02:10:19,520
Speaker 1: it to myself because one week I got in like

2420
02:10:19,600 --> 02:10:23,440
Speaker 1: one clue and from then on he's been giving me

2421
02:10:23,480 --> 02:10:26,320
Speaker 1: these you know, I make him cryptic and vague. Yeah,

2422
02:10:26,360 --> 02:10:30,840
Speaker 1: it's completely vague. So, yeah, your former teammate is a male,

2423
02:10:31,320 --> 02:10:36,280
Speaker 1: so you've gotten you've gotten older. So yeah, that's eat

2424
02:10:36,360 --> 02:10:39,960
Speaker 1: some good. It's not the years. It's not the years,

2425
02:10:40,000 --> 02:10:45,080
Speaker 1: big man, it's the mileage exactly exactly. God, thanks for

2426
02:10:45,200 --> 02:10:49,200
Speaker 1: including good to hear from y'all. Appreciate you, appreciate having

2427
02:10:49,240 --> 02:10:52,320
Speaker 1: you on. That's John Davis, Bill's former offensive lineman. He

2428
02:10:52,440 --> 02:10:55,520
Speaker 1: was a right guard here for the Bills for all

2429
02:10:55,520 --> 02:10:58,040
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl years. He was a smooth three twenty

2430
02:10:58,720 --> 02:11:03,960
Speaker 1: before breakfast he was. Yeah, well, that's why you didn't

2431
02:11:03,960 --> 02:11:06,400
Speaker 1: think of him as a basketball player, right, because you know,

2432
02:11:07,040 --> 02:11:08,720
Speaker 1: you're looking at a wide body like that. You're like

2433
02:11:08,760 --> 02:11:11,120
Speaker 1: that guy and two quarters. And it's not like we

2434
02:11:11,160 --> 02:11:13,360
Speaker 1: didn't have an offensive line that because Ken Hall was

2435
02:11:13,400 --> 02:11:15,200
Speaker 1: also the same way. He was a hoops player. All

2436
02:11:15,200 --> 02:11:17,080
Speaker 1: those guys, you know, they were all and Kent was

2437
02:11:17,120 --> 02:11:21,240
Speaker 1: like a former quarter Glen Glenn. I don't know if

2438
02:11:21,240 --> 02:11:24,000
Speaker 1: Glenn played any competitive sports. Is he didn't call that

2439
02:11:24,120 --> 02:11:26,320
Speaker 1: football until he was late in his year. He feena

2440
02:11:26,440 --> 02:11:29,400
Speaker 1: the same thing. All he's got. Jimmy Richard was a wrestler.

2441
02:11:30,240 --> 02:11:34,360
Speaker 1: You know all these guys so playing other sports? Is

2442
02:11:34,680 --> 02:11:38,280
Speaker 1: you know they always everybody did back then. And let

2443
02:11:38,360 --> 02:11:41,720
Speaker 1: me tell you something. John Davis is a hoops player.

2444
02:11:42,320 --> 02:11:44,960
Speaker 1: First of all, I want to see the jersey that

2445
02:11:45,000 --> 02:11:49,960
Speaker 1: he could be a get on. Second of all, wait

2446
02:11:50,080 --> 02:11:53,720
Speaker 1: till he's off the phote. Second of all, his vertical

2447
02:11:53,920 --> 02:11:56,720
Speaker 1: has got You couldn't slip a credit card under his vertical.

2448
02:11:56,720 --> 02:11:58,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, a couple of quarters. May come on, Bro,

2449
02:11:59,120 --> 02:12:01,520
Speaker 1: He's the greatest, though, Sam, that's great. It's great here

2450
02:12:01,520 --> 02:12:02,840
Speaker 1: and from it. All right, we gotta wrap up the

2451
02:12:02,880 --> 02:12:05,040
Speaker 1: show when we return here on One Bill's Live, presented

2452
02:12:05,080 --> 02:12:19,640
Speaker 1: by Collid of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. It is

2453
02:12:19,800 --> 02:12:22,720
Speaker 1: signed for what have we learned from today's show? Brought

2454
02:12:22,720 --> 02:12:25,800
Speaker 1: to you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental company

2455
02:12:26,520 --> 02:12:29,800
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. And I think we learned that

2456
02:12:30,480 --> 02:12:35,720
Speaker 1: the hiring cycle is a disappointment, especially to the minority community,

2457
02:12:35,960 --> 02:12:38,640
Speaker 1: especially those that coach in the NFL at the assistant

2458
02:12:38,640 --> 02:12:43,360
Speaker 1: coaching level, with just David Culley and Robert Salop hired

2459
02:12:43,680 --> 02:12:47,240
Speaker 1: among the seven head coaching openings that were out there

2460
02:12:47,400 --> 02:12:51,200
Speaker 1: when the season ended, and as our guest Jason Reid

2461
02:12:51,280 --> 02:12:55,640
Speaker 1: kind of outlined, nothing's going to change, and I don't

2462
02:12:55,640 --> 02:12:59,040
Speaker 1: think anything's gonna change short of minority ownership in the league.

2463
02:12:59,080 --> 02:13:02,880
Speaker 1: If and when that ever comes to pass, that stuff

2464
02:13:02,880 --> 02:13:06,120
Speaker 1: like this will kind of gain more attraction and there'll

2465
02:13:06,120 --> 02:13:08,400
Speaker 1: be a better representation at the head coaching level in

2466
02:13:08,400 --> 02:13:12,320
Speaker 1: our league. It's a slow process, and I'm it's it's painstakes,

2467
02:13:12,320 --> 02:13:15,400
Speaker 1: painstakingly slowly. Yeah, and I'll ever forget. You know, there

2468
02:13:15,400 --> 02:13:17,280
Speaker 1: have been a lot of successful guys, you know that

2469
02:13:18,120 --> 02:13:22,120
Speaker 1: we'll just see um And it's hard to change the

2470
02:13:22,240 --> 02:13:25,400
Speaker 1: thought process and the business dealings of an industry that

2471
02:13:25,440 --> 02:13:27,480
Speaker 1: has been so widely successful as the one that we're

2472
02:13:27,520 --> 02:13:30,960
Speaker 1: talking about. So yeah, certainly there's no financial reason for

2473
02:13:31,000 --> 02:13:35,000
Speaker 1: them to change yet, right, and there are three GM hires,

2474
02:13:35,920 --> 02:13:38,280
Speaker 1: you know, people of color, so maybe that's a step

2475
02:13:38,320 --> 02:13:40,440
Speaker 1: in the right direction. We can only hope you didn't

2476
02:13:40,480 --> 02:13:42,520
Speaker 1: get to the OBL fan mail bag today, We're gonna

2477
02:13:42,520 --> 02:13:44,480
Speaker 1: save those questions for Monday, So if you're waiting for

2478
02:13:44,600 --> 02:13:46,840
Speaker 1: us to answer those, we'll put those on the show

2479
02:13:46,880 --> 02:13:49,200
Speaker 1: Monday and answer them there when Steve and I come

2480
02:13:49,200 --> 02:13:51,280
Speaker 1: back from a weekend off. We'll see you then here

2481
02:13:51,320 --> 02:13:54,160
Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo

2482
02:13:54,200 --> 02:14:02,040
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Have a good weekend.