1 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: And the word democrat is something that's come into fashion. 2 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: I changed the E with the U, and most people 3 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: don't know that dumb has a be, so we don't 4 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: have to worry about that. It's very quiet. I thought 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: it was quite good, but I haven't gotten much credit 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: for that. Fake news good. Pocahont is good. I won't 7 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: say lion ted because he's on my side. I don't 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: talk about past conquests, but we. 9 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: Have a lot of them. 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: I won't talk about they got a whole table full 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: of Republicans there. 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: They say, no, don't mention my frickin' nay, will you please? 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 2: But we've had a lot of good names. 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: But the Democrats are there to destroy wealth, and honestly, 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: they've gone absolutely crazy. 16 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: There you go, the journalistic equivalent of Chernobyl. That was 17 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: the White House correspondence on Friday, Donald Trump an hour 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: and for hm minut of that. It was a fucking 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 3: disaster and I loved almost every second of it. To 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 3: break that down, along with a few other things, including 21 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 3: the Democratic Party being broke and Ice ramping up, there 22 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 3: a tour of hatred and evil. Please welcome back to 23 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 3: Dead Air. On behalf of the Safe of America Movement, 24 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 3: the Save America Movement dot org. Mister Steve Schmidt, my 25 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 3: name is Dean Blundell. Steve, did you do enjoy that 26 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 3: little slice of Donald Trump at the White House correspondence? 27 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 4: There? 28 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 3: We've got more. I don't know how much you can handle. 29 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 3: But my god, my god, a big breath. 30 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 5: I feel like my heart is palpitating. If I had 31 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 5: a blood pressure cuff on, it would be rising high, 32 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 5: very high. Deed, I know a lot of people in 33 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 5: that room. Yeah right, And I've been to that dinner 34 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 5: many times. And I don't think you have to prosecute 35 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 5: the entirety of his list of depravities, his subpoena in 36 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 5: New York Times reporters last week, their parents who reported 37 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 5: on the insanity of his corrupt guitary jet, so on 38 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 5: and so forth, the enemies of the people, the abuse 39 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 5: that he showered out at at Caitlin Collins. Does no 40 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 5: one have any sense of dignity, any notion of propriety, 41 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 5: any any anything, decency right, decency, shame right to just 42 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 5: get up and walk out of the room, to have 43 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 5: the judgment over my dead fucking body. I'm not going. 44 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 5: I'm not going. You can't make me go. I know 45 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 5: we have video of Kristen Welker with the architect of 46 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 5: murder and violence, the host of Meet the Press at 47 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 5: the network of Tom Brocall and Tim Russard and John 48 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 5: Chancellor and Barbara Walters Katie Couric at the pray fascist disgusting. 49 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 4: Does not do it justice. 50 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 5: If you watch it closely, you see the guy in 51 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 5: the background of the clip. He turns and he's impressed 52 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 5: with himself, laughing at the stupidity. 53 00:03:59,240 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 4: Of it all. 54 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 5: Clever indeed, what a disgrace, the most corrupt place on earth. 55 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 5: And if you're a Democratic party, we're gonna we're gonna 56 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 5: talk about them. She should never host a debate. She 57 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 5: should never host a debate. 58 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 3: Kristen Welker. 59 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 5: There should be no hosted debates anchored by these corrupt 60 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 5: corporate media companies. 61 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 4: None. None. 62 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,679 Speaker 3: Can I play that? Can I play that Welker clip? 63 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 3: Because this in sends you your friends with Kristen Welker, 64 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 3: you know her. 65 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 5: I'm not friends with her. I mean, you know, I 66 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 5: was an analyst at MSNBC News for eleven years and 67 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 5: demire friends. We spend a lot of time together. We 68 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 5: we know each other's kids. You know, the the over 69 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 5: indexing of the word friends and as in all my 70 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 5: friends in the room in Washington. There you see a 71 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 5: power click. Everyone friends with one another. No, I'm not 72 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 5: friends with Kristin Welker. I'm a person who's cross paths 73 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 5: with Kristen Welker and has had pleasant exchanges with Kristen Welker. 74 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 5: But I hold Christen Welker in complete contempt. And the 75 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 5: reason I do is because she's immoral. And she's immoral, 76 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 5: and the evidence of that is in this clip. She 77 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 5: is completely inept at her job at holding power to 78 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 5: account at an epic level. And now you see why. 79 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 5: What she wants to do is put on the heels 80 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 5: and the pretty fushit dress and be in the room 81 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 5: where it happens. And when she was doing that, there's 82 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 5: a little hispanic kid sleeping on cold concrete, being fed 83 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 5: disgusting food with worms in it, People being tortured, people 84 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 5: being abused. That's the architect of plans to stash human 85 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 5: beings into warehouses. She's the host to meet the press. 86 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 5: She has the job that Tim Russer had. 87 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: Holy Fuckatola, Yeah, shameful. There's a clip of Kristen Welker, 88 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 3: yucking it up with Stephen Miller, as you pointed out, 89 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: the architect of the concentration camp society in the United States, 90 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: the architect of. 91 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 4: The eduer behind her too. 92 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there you go, eat my Waldorf salad there, every. 93 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 4: One of them. 94 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 5: And by the way, by the way, right so you 95 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 5: like I can appreciate I guess at some level, right 96 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 5: that I make two million dollars a year as a 97 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 5: complete mediocrity in a in a job I'm not good at, 98 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 5: and I don't want to lose it because I'll. 99 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 4: Never have one again, ever again. 100 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 5: Ever, right like that. It's so I gotta go to 101 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 5: the dinner. 102 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: But isn't that part of it for some of these people? 103 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 3: Can't you give? Do you give any of them a 104 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 3: pass like a Chrystal Well? No, maybe, because I can 105 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,679 Speaker 3: understand having to attend being part of your job description. 106 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: But yucking it up and touching Steven Miller on the arm, 107 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 3: having a great time with the Trump regime, having a 108 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: great time with Trump's Goebels. To me, that was the 109 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: most objectionable part of it. And we haven't even gotten 110 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: to the supercut of Trump's unbelievable fucking bomb show yesterday 111 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 3: or sorry on Friday. Like to me, that was the 112 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: most objectionable part seeing people that are supposed to hold 113 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: truth to power having a great time with people fascists 114 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: that are hurting Americans daily thirty nine thousand, five hundred 115 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: put an nice attention facilities last month by Steven Miller 116 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: last month alone, just in the month of July, thirty 117 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 3: nine thousand, five hundred people, children, women, Americans, nonviolent migrants, 118 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: people allowed to be in that country. And there's Chris 119 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: and Welker and I apologize for calling your friends, but 120 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 3: this was the most objectionable thing in the evening. This 121 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 3: is the thing that you've talked about the most, not 122 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 3: just the sycophancy, but the the collegial attitude of people 123 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 3: like Kristen Welker in that room that night. 124 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 5: The first point to point broadcast in world history. 125 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 4: Meaning that you have someone on air in. 126 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 5: A certain place, point A, and they're transmitting to point 127 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 5: B to point C to point B. 128 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 4: And that happened with Edward R. 129 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 5: Morrow standing in Vienna during the early hours of the Anschluss, 130 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 5: and the voice of Morrow, most important broadcast journalists in history, 131 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 5: is carried back to New York on the CBS News 132 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 5: airwaves that Barry Weis got rid of killing the tradition 133 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 5: of CBS News radio not long ago, but at any rate, 134 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 5: Edward Rmorrow makes the observation that I am in Vienna, 135 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 5: Edward Rmorrow, broadcasting live from Vienna. Herr Hitler has not 136 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 5: yet arrived. 137 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:22,599 Speaker 4: He later. 138 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 5: Illuminates in the same way what's happening from these London 139 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 5: rooftops at a moment of true testing for the world 140 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 5: and for the United States, when the truth and the 141 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 5: lie are embroiled in a deadly struggle, and after the war, 142 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 5: he gives one of the most important speeches in journalism, 143 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 5: the Lights in a Box speech. 144 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 4: And what Edward Armorrow. 145 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 5: Talks about in that speech is the recognition that we 146 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 5: live a dangerous world that's on the edge of destruction, 147 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 5: and that in the struggle between freedom and its opposite, 148 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 5: that journalists are not neutral parties, that the American point 149 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 5: of view. 150 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 4: Is central. 151 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 5: To the journalistic identity because freedom is the foundation of 152 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 5: it all. 153 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 4: And this was a travesty. This man Trump. 154 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 5: Is the enemy of press freedom in America, has declared 155 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 5: himself its enemy, and has established himself as his foremost enemy. 156 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 5: What you see, there is a moral collaboration by a 157 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 5: lost woman as hollow as a Lindsay Graham, as dead 158 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 5: inside from a conviction perspective and ethic perspective as Mitch 159 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 5: McConnell currently is. 160 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 4: And it is. 161 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 5: Awful, Yeah, to see the disintegration of this. No, she 162 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 5: was not reporting, she was appeasing. That's a broadcast partner, 163 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 5: it's show business. She's ineffective at what she does, and 164 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 5: she doesn't have the judgment to stay away from Stephen 165 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 5: Miller on camera because at the end of the day, 166 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 5: she doesn't understand what it is that she's supposed to 167 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 5: be doing for a living. 168 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 3: M Well said, Well said, and I would agree with you, 169 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 3: you know, and I think that, you know, for anybody 170 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 3: that was in that room. I wrote a piece about 171 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 3: it this weekend. If you've ever seen the if you've 172 00:11:55,760 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 3: ever seen the Seinfeld Norm McDonald episode Comedians having getting 173 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 3: in cars having coffee, I you've seen the Norm MacDonald 174 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: Jerry Seinfeld one where he talked about Patton Oswalt and 175 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 3: he's like, Patton Oswald said, the worst part about this 176 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 3: is the hypocrisy, and he said, I disagree. Think it's 177 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 3: all the raping and that's why when I see Kristin 178 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: Welker at this thing, knowing he's a thirty one time 179 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 3: sexual predator, convicted of an adjudicated rape of E. G. 180 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 3: And Carrol having to pay her five point two million 181 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 3: dollars for all the female journalists that were there co 182 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 3: signing their night, standing next to a rapist who's been 183 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 3: empowered by every fascist around him, and every other rapist 184 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 3: and every other pedophile in the Epstein files. I don't 185 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 3: have to go down the first amendments, you know, going 186 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 3: after New York Times journalists sending you know, the FBI 187 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 3: reporters to find leaks at other journalist's house, from the 188 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 3: Wall Street journal people who are honored that night. I 189 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 3: don't have to go that far down the road. It's 190 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 3: a very simple premise. It's all the raping for me. 191 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 3: And so when you all those people, specifically women in 192 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 3: that room co signing all of that behavior, and I 193 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 3: didn't watch it. I just watched the clips. I wrote 194 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 3: that piece this morning because you don't have to go 195 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 3: you have to go to one one line item, one 196 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 3: line item about this regime and about this man to 197 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 3: support anything that supports him or where he ingratiates himself 198 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 3: to the American people by gaslighting them, like we saw 199 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 3: on Friday, saw him a little hot about it. And 200 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 3: it's to quote nor McDonald, it's all the raping. And 201 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 3: that's the problem that. 202 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 5: I have with Oh yeah, I mean, because well and 203 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 5: your moral you're going to be trying to be. 204 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 4: Right and. 205 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 5: It is just just a shattering night. There's an exceptional 206 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 5: documentary that is out now was in the movie theaters 207 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 5: briefly about the life of Lenny Reefinstall And if I 208 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 5: could suggest to Kristin Welker, cuddle up in the pajamas 209 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 5: with a nice glass of wine, maybe invite the Miller's over. 210 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 4: And watch. 211 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 5: And Lenny lived to be one hundred and one. Yeah right, 212 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 5: wait till you get to the end. 213 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 4: All right, it's the best part. 214 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 3: All right, we should all be watching it. I want 215 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 3: to play on another super cut. I don't know how 216 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: much of this you can take. You know, we're talking 217 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 3: about the poor judgment of individuals. But the gentleman that 218 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: was center stage, Donald Trump for an hour and four minutes, 219 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 3: legitimately was incoherent. He was not funny. It It reminded 220 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 3: me of I don't know if you've seen Lord of 221 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 3: the Rings billbo standing up to celebrate his birthday before 222 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 3: he disappears, tells everybody in the shire to go fuck themselves. 223 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 3: You remember that. It reminded me of that, minus any 224 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 3: jokes or in or coherence. What's what? 225 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 6: Like? 226 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 5: I just I know we're gonna We're gonna show this 227 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 5: like am I am? My first is you know you 228 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 5: think of the words like judge, not unless you be judged. 229 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 3: Yeah right, I'm not judge. 230 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 5: At the same at the same time. Right, there's an 231 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 5: exception every right, So. 232 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 4: Here you go. 233 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's play the clip, nice little super cut from Friday. 234 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: But just like my presidency, the second time is always better. 235 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: It's always better, and. 236 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 2: The third time will be better. Yet. 237 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm only hilarious. 238 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: But let me also think the incoming president of the 239 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: Correspondence Association, Jackie Heinrich. She can be very tough as 240 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: a reporter. I will tell you she can be nasty. 241 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: She looks so beautiful, but she can be so nasty. 242 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: How could that happen? But she just got married to 243 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: a very successful congressman, very good congressman. 244 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: I'd like to have a couple of more boats from it. 245 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 2: That's okay. On occasion, he chose a little independence. We 246 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: don't like that. 247 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: Despite everything that happened at the previous dinner and all 248 00:15:55,440 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: of the dangers involved, I'm told that this is still the. 249 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: Hottest ticket in town. 250 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: This ticket to get in tonight because it's a smaller room, 251 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: it's a beautiful room, it's a luxury room. See those 252 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: beautiful chandlers. I can tell you everything about them if 253 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: you'd like to know. I hope that everyone finally got 254 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: to enjoy their entire very delicious beef tenderloins, very special beef. 255 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: And I want you all to know that Bobby Kennedy 256 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: is right here. Personally ran over the cow in his 257 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: car and he cut it up and he brought it 258 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: here for you to eat tonight, so it's very fresh. 259 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 6: You know. 260 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: The one thing about the press that I learned, don't 261 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: be sarcastic when because I'm a very sarcastic person and 262 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: I get sarcastic, and most people know that. But so 263 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: you have some bad people that will write it exactly like. 264 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 2: I say it. And I said, I was only kidding. 265 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: For all of the trouble that you give me, you 266 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: give me a lot of trouble, a lot of heartache. 267 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: I hope all of you know that I believe in 268 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: the free press more than anyone in this room does. 269 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 2: Maybe not quite, but. 270 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: That's why I'm proud to be the most open and 271 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: transparent president in history. 272 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: You know. But you people have no idea how lucky 273 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: you are when I'm gone. 274 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: You're all going to be broke. Your business model is 275 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: going to be fit. And this is a somewhat of 276 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: a scoop my intention to run for a fourth term 277 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: as President of the United States. 278 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: I will be doing that. I will be. 279 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: Having an official In fact, I think I have. 280 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want three times. Now I'm gonna do it again. 281 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 3: There you go, he's got the Trump twenty twenty eight 282 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 3: hat on. That was two and a half minutes. You'll 283 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 3: never get back. Thank you for sitting through that with us, 284 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen. Not sick, God do it's fucking sick. 285 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 3: It's a sick Yeah, the whole thing is sick. 286 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: People. 287 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 5: It's the greatest collection of douchebags gathered together anywhere in 288 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 5: the world at that moment in time on the earth 289 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 5: of eight billion people floating in the universe. 290 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 3: Which is rare because he said, was the greatest collection 291 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 3: of people with TDS Trump derangement syndrome in that room. 292 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 5: You know, Trump derangement syndrome is something that doesn't exist. 293 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 4: It's a label of honor. 294 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 5: By a deranged man at his clinics, like all fascists, 295 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 5: if you oppose him, it's not a sign of his 296 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 5: evil or incompetence, but our derangements. And so, because we 297 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 5: don't think people should be locked up in cages hundreds 298 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 5: at a time, like a concentration camp, or in warehouses 299 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 5: or any of the other depravities, were deranged just like 300 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 5: in Soviet Russia, were in Nazi Germany. Right, But there 301 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 5: were no people suffering from Trump derangement syndrome in that room. 302 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 5: That was a cynical room, right, That is a that 303 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 5: is a room of America's greatest cynics and bullshitters. And 304 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 5: and my takeaway on it is is we have enormous 305 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 5: reach on on our platforms, and I don't I don't 306 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 5: mean me and you singularly, I mean a broad sector 307 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 5: of us. There needs to be the establishment of an 308 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 5: independent media association, and an independent media association needs to 309 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 5: host the presidential debate. The independent media Association needs to 310 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 5: set a framework for some of the leading platforms to 311 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 5: be evolved in the presidential contests, because Trump has broken 312 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 5: our politics in many institutions, but a bunch of the 313 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 5: institutions he broke in the country include CBS News, ABC News, 314 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 5: NBC News, and they have all lost their credibility. They 315 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 5: have all lost trust and most of not all, but 316 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 5: most of the people who stand in front of a 317 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 5: camera are not smart enough to understand the moment. They 318 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 5: are not deep enough to appreciate the danger. 319 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 3: Some sycophants. You know that extends out across the United 320 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 3: States of America. I made reference to some of that 321 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 3: depravity or earlier thirty nine thousand and five, one hundred people, 322 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 3: human beings rounded up and summarily thrown into concentration camps 323 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 3: detained reported as of the month of July twenty twenty six. 324 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 3: In joining us to talk about that and Steven Miller 325 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 3: and much much more. She is the host. She's an 326 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 3: author actually two books, Against the Wall, Yes, My Journey 327 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 3: from Border Agent to Immigrant rights Activists and Ice What 328 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 3: Everybody needs to Know. She is the Emmy Award winning 329 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 3: HBO documentary filmmaker Critical Incident Death at the border. She 330 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 3: is a former ICE agent and she is awesome. Please 331 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 3: welcome to the program, Miss Jen bud Hi, Jen, how 332 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 3: are you? Hi? 333 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 6: Dean Hi Steve, Thank you so much. It's very kind 334 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 6: introduction you gave me. 335 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, no problem, my pleasure. Steve. You've got a very 336 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 3: deep understanding of border security, obviously being around when DHS 337 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 3: was brought together, your deep understanding of the history of 338 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 3: our border, specifically the southern border. Why don't you take 339 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 3: us in and then we can start asking Jen some 340 00:21:58,680 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 3: really important questions today. 341 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 5: I think that Jen has a familiarity with terrain that 342 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 5: most Americans are not familiar with, and it's a border terrain, 343 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 5: but also a border terrain in the philosophical sense where 344 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 5: her integrity has been deeply tested and she stood alone 345 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 5: and apart in the tradition of some real American heroes, 346 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 5: in a category of people like Hugh Thompson, who paid 347 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 5: a very high personal price to stop the Meli massacre 348 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 5: as a helicopter pilot, landing his ship and training his 349 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 5: guns on the massacrering American soldiers in saving the Vietnamese 350 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 5: villagers from their rampage. And when you look at the 351 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 5: border patrol and you look get the history of the border, 352 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 5: and you understand the wildness. 353 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 4: Of the border. 354 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 5: Right there are boundaries that are laid out that are 355 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 5: very deep between humanity and inhumanity. This is a wild country. 356 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 5: George Patten was a captain in the Army in the 357 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 5: nineteen aughts and still mapping the mountains outside of El Paso, 358 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 5: still surveying them. It was unexplored country. That borderland, particularly 359 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 5: in Texas, is the land of the Comanche. This is camenteria. 360 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 5: This is a wild place. This was the last frontier 361 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 5: of the frontier in America, and along that border there 362 00:23:55,280 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 5: have been periods of militarization, periods of openness, periods of 363 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 5: low intensity guerrilla warfare, bandits where there has been a 364 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 5: blending between the duty of a border patrol, the Texas Rangers, 365 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 5: the US Army. And what has come out of the 366 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 5: wash in twenty twenty six is a uniform poaramilitary dominated 367 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 5: by Christian rights fanatics, chief among them Greg Bavino, a 368 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 5: perfect dark type of the whack job, as is the 369 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,479 Speaker 5: agent who killed the man in Maine with who forty 370 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 5: seven days of training and there's no more articulate voice 371 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 5: in America warning people about the culture, the danger and 372 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 5: explaining the reasons why what is happening is happening than 373 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 5: Jen Budd and understanding this is of deep importance because 374 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 5: it should be what chalks the lines of what Democratic 375 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 5: presidential candidates talk about, because it is what they must 376 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 5: talk about, which is different from what the polsters tell 377 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 5: them what they need to talk about, which includes stupidity 378 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 5: like words such as affordability that no one uses, as in, 379 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 5: if you say affordability forty seven times and you don't 380 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 5: talk about the exitgen crisis, the child sleeping on the floor, 381 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 5: that's a winning strategy, and that is not a winning strategy. 382 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 5: That is a losing strategy, and there is a catastrophic 383 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 5: strategy for the country. And so that's a long intro 384 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 5: from me of a person that needs to be introduced 385 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 5: to this audience because is a very important voice in 386 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 5: this moment in time, who understands this region, who understands 387 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 5: this agency. It has the couraging, the integrity and the 388 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 5: scars from telling the truth about it. 389 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 4: Jen Budd, welcome. 390 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 6: Oh, that's an incredible introduction. Thank you so much, Steve. 391 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 6: I appreciate that. I appreciate that, but were very well said. 392 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 5: Tell us about the Border Patrol of twenty twenty six. 393 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 4: Why is it a threat to all of us? 394 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 6: Uh? The border patrol is a threat to all of 395 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 6: us simply because it's been allowed to be this way since. 396 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, I was in in the mid 397 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 6: nineties to the early two thousands, left right before nine 398 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 6: to eleven because of the corruption and the brutality and 399 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 6: the cover ups I saw. And so everything that I 400 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 6: see going on right now in our cities, in Chicago 401 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 6: and Minneapolis and elsewhere is everything that I experienced as 402 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 6: an agent, but only on the southern border. And unfortunately, 403 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 6: what I see over and over again in speaking about 404 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 6: the Democrats is that there really is no opposition to 405 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 6: these agencies. There's no accountability in these agencies. You mentioned 406 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 6: the film of HBO that some of my work is 407 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 6: in and other people's work. Of course, I couldn't have 408 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 6: done it by myself to out the illegal cover up 409 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 6: teams that have existed down here for generations. And I 410 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 6: knew about him as an agent, and then finally, over 411 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 6: the years, was able to say something about it and 412 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 6: get this help, get this film created at won an 413 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 6: Emmy and Senator Padilla, who is my Senator Democrat Alex Padia. 414 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 6: He's in it saying this is awful, we need to 415 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,719 Speaker 6: do something about it, and yet they won't talk about it. 416 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 6: The current head of CBP, the Commissioner, Rodney Scott, is 417 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 6: the one who did the cover up that the film 418 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 6: is discussing. And when you look at that film, watch 419 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 6: that film, what you will see is exactly what you 420 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 6: see them doing in the Alex Pretty shooting. You see 421 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 6: them doing it in the Rene Good shooting, and you 422 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 6: just it's a pattern in practice. People are like, wow, 423 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 6: you must have inside information, and it's like, maybe some 424 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 6: of it's inside information, you know, like current, but most 425 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 6: of it is just I've seen this played out. It's 426 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 6: pattern and practice on how they get away with these crimes. 427 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 6: In one hundred and two years, no Border Patrol agent 428 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 6: has ever been successfully prosecuted for killing anybody, whether a 429 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 6: United States citizen or migrant, and that's just insane and unfortunately, 430 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,719 Speaker 6: what it does to people who are out there in 431 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 6: that uniform trying to protect the country, trying to enforce 432 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 6: immigration laws and so forth, is that when they do 433 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 6: get injured, like I have been injured as an agent 434 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 6: by a smuggler before, is then people don't believe you 435 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 6: because of all these cover ups and all these laws. 436 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 6: So what we're seeing now is basically what Democrats and 437 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 6: Republicans have felt was okay to happen within one hundred 438 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 6: miles of any land or water border barrier. Now come 439 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 6: into your cities. And we've been warning for generations down 440 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 6: here that this was going to happen, and nobody would 441 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 6: listen to the generations of Latinos and indigenous people saying 442 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 6: this is insane what they're doing to us. And they 443 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 6: just took over after nine to eleven. Quite honestly, they 444 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 6: gave them all the money in the world, didn't hold 445 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 6: anybody in immigration responsible for the nine to eleven terrorists 446 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,479 Speaker 6: coming in, and this is what they created. And so 447 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 6: people like me who were college educated and wanted to 448 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 6: end up going to law school and things like that, 449 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 6: you can't get into these agencies anymore. They are hiring 450 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 6: only the most uneducated, the most inexperienced. There are no 451 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 6: psychological evaluations whatsoever. And they used third party private contractors 452 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 6: to do background investigations and have routinely hired people with 453 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 6: sex crimes adjudicated sex crimes in their background happens constantly. 454 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 6: I can give you a whole list of Are you 455 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 6: a border drive I am not a lawyer. No, I 456 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 6: did my forty year and then I never went back 457 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 6: because I was so disgusted by the law after being 458 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 6: in the border patrol. So yeah, yeah, but this is 459 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 6: par for the course. This is everything we've seen down 460 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 6: here for generations, quite honestly, but on steroids and blown up, 461 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 6: and now it's going to be used against Americans, quite honestly. 462 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 3: So there was this old adage. You know, Stephen, I 463 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 3: were talking about ICE last week. You know, ICE used 464 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 3: to wear the blue windbreaker. This is Ice on the back. Right. 465 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 3: Now you've got ICE officers in full tackyear running around 466 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 3: hanging out of the back of military vehicles with AK 467 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 3: forty sevens and assault rifles and tear gas masks and helmets, 468 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 3: the whole bit. You know, that's a real change for 469 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 3: you know, the common observer, right, someone like me, And 470 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 3: so what we would just a common person, what I 471 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 3: would say is like the real switchover from ICE being 472 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 3: a homeland security or order agency happened with Trump. What 473 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 3: you're saying, no, no, no, no, These practices and patterns 474 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 3: they've been in place and in practice for a long time. 475 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 3: Trump is just militarized, professionalized, and given these guys more 476 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 3: money than the fucking Navy. 477 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, and there is another aspect to Trump two point 478 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 6: zero that is different than we haven't seen before. So 479 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 6: what we've seen is the management of the Border Patrol. 480 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 6: Like former Chief Rodney Scott is now the commissioner of CBP. 481 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 6: Quite honestly, border patrol agents have no business being management 482 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 6: in CBP. CBP involves trade and involves all sorts of 483 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 6: complicated things that border patrol just simply does not do. 484 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 6: The Border Patrol is the most paramilitary, It is the 485 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 6: most violent, and is the most brutal. It ignores the 486 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 6: US Constitution, and it has the cover up teams and 487 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 6: gets away with all that. So you see when they 488 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 6: bring Rodney Scott into be the head of CBP, and 489 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 6: they even brought another in the beginning, another border patrol 490 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 6: agent to be his deputy. What Trump is saying, what 491 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 6: Steven Miller is saying to to ICE and CBP, because 492 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 6: we also did that with the ICE regional directors. We've 493 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 6: replaced them with Border patrol chiefs. We've said we do 494 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 6: not trust you all. And for the longest time, I 495 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 6: would say, in the border patrol. Internally, the way that 496 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 6: we as agents looked at those other immigration agencies was like, 497 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 6: you guys are tough enough, You're not like us. And 498 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 6: so what you've seen is what I call the border 499 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 6: patrolification of all these agencies, including USCIS, which is the 500 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 6: agency that wasn't even law enforcement that now is law 501 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 6: enforcement under Trump now being used and instead of processing 502 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 6: people's applications who are trying to do it the legal way, 503 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 6: they're just taking their applications, sitting on it until the 504 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 6: people run out of their status, and then handing the 505 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 6: documents over to Ice to get them. So we have 506 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 6: seen him. He has done a lot, but the steps 507 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 6: to get here were all set in place by both 508 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 6: sides of the aisle. 509 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I. 510 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 5: Feel like I know exactly what to do here. Right 511 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 5: when there's a next democratic president and Congress, what has 512 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 5: to happen, and so there's going to be a lot 513 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 5: of Project twenty twenty nine talk. And I don't like 514 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 5: the idea of building on Trump's depravity and obscenity with 515 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 5: a democratic version of it. I think it's much better 516 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 5: idea to have a new deal sensibility. Hundreds of pieces 517 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 5: of legislation are going to have to be passed in 518 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 5: regular order, and when it comes to the Department of 519 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 5: Homeland Security, it needs to be broken up. You had 520 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 5: nine senators that had the wisdom in the aftermath of 521 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 5: nine to eleven to see what it would become. Ted 522 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 5: Kennedy was one of them. Jim Jeffords of Vermont was 523 00:33:54,440 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 5: one of them. The iconoclastic Republican and the agency to 524 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 5: be the department needs to be broken up. We need 525 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 5: to have a border security agency, and we should rename 526 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 5: the Border Security Agency as the US Border Security Agency, 527 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 5: and it will have a symmetrical name as the Canadian 528 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 5: Border Security Agency. And it should be completely demilitarized in 529 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 5: terms of its equipment, in terms of its weapons. And 530 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 5: every single person who was hired between the inauguration of 531 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 5: Trump and his last hour of office is out on 532 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 5: day one. Badge on the box in the left, gun 533 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 5: on the box in the right, thank you for your service, 534 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 5: look forward to your investigation. And from that point on, 535 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 5: the Border Patrol uniform can be visited at the Museum 536 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 5: of Tolerance. In the short term, as this new agency 537 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 5: has stood up, which will take at least two years. 538 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 5: The US military should take control of the border from 539 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 5: a security area, and that should be done with national 540 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 5: Guard forces. And frankly, if I was a Democratic president, 541 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 5: those national Guard forces will come from Mississippi in Alabama 542 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 5: and South Carolina and Texas, and they'll deploy to the 543 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 5: southern border as a part of a task force. And 544 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 5: I would recall from retirement to active duty General Russell Honore, 545 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 5: and I would promote him to a force or command, 546 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 5: and I would put him in charge of it, and 547 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 5: I would give him a clear mandate to clean up 548 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 5: and to professionalize this shit show. That would be my plan, right, 549 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 5: that would be That would be the basic structure of 550 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 5: my plan. 551 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 4: What do you think about that? 552 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 6: You know, one of the things I say is that 553 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 6: you know, during the last ten years, the concept of 554 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 6: open borders versus closed borders has come about and Democrats 555 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 6: have no kind of response to it. And what I 556 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 6: often say is that a closed border is as dangerous 557 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 6: as an open border. So a lot of people on 558 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 6: the left would like me because of the things that 559 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 6: I've seen sit there and say we should just have 560 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 6: open borders. But I have also seen some of the 561 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 6: bad things that come across that border, and so I 562 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 6: am not all the way here at the same time, 563 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 6: when you close the border like we did at the 564 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 6: end of Trump one point zero and then into the 565 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 6: first three years of Biden, every border betray agent and 566 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 6: CBP agent knows what that causes is then a rush 567 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 6: in between the ports to create what they termed an invasion, 568 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 6: which was essentially they created it on purpose. If you 569 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 6: close the avenues to come in legally and not inspect people, 570 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 6: they will cross illegally. And what we have right now 571 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 6: is we do have the military down here on the border, 572 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 6: but they are under strict orders not to talk and 573 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 6: not to report, and so what we see is they're 574 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 6: claiming that nobody's crossing illegally simply because Trump is in charge, 575 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 6: and that simply is not true. And so what you 576 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 6: have in a closed border situation is you have politicians 577 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 6: in the agency then lying and saying, oh, nobody's getting through, 578 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 6: everything sealed, everything shut, and that just simply is not true. 579 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 6: People who have been arrested in the mass deportation and 580 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 6: deported back to Mexico are all already are already back 581 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 6: in the United States, and so they're just simply lying 582 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 6: to people and not reporting the truth. At the same time, 583 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,720 Speaker 6: when you do close the legal avenues, then you cannot 584 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 6: inspect people who need to come in or who want 585 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 6: to come in for a variety of different reasons, and 586 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 6: like I said, they will cross illegally, and then you 587 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 6: don't know who is in the country at all. I 588 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 6: want to be clear that the Border Patrol and CBP 589 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 6: have not caught any terrorists trying to enter the country, 590 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 6: or Border Patrol at least has not, even though they 591 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 6: claim they have. They've caught people that they say are 592 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 6: on their terrorists watch lists, but they have never prosecuted anybody, 593 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 6: and so we do need to rethink this. What we've 594 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 6: allowed these agencies to do is tell everybody that everybody 595 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 6: coming in is a criminal, and that just simply is 596 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 6: not true. And in fact, Border Patrol agents and CBP 597 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 6: agents are arrested at a higher rate for more violent 598 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 6: crimes than the people that they are arresting and apprehending 599 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 6: nearly almost every single day. It's not to say that 600 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 6: they don't arrest people that should be arrested and dealt with. 601 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 4: They do. 602 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 6: But when you look at the crimes that they committing 603 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 6: and the lies that they are telling the public like 604 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 6: one of the ways you know that is like they've 605 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 6: been saying this whole time, for this mass deportation, we're 606 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 6: going after the worst of the worst. But what we 607 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 6: see is they're going after children. And what we see 608 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 6: is they're stalking people in airports. What we see is 609 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 6: they're getting moms and dads and this and that's this 610 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 6: is about money. This is about power for the management 611 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 6: that is in charge, and they are lying to the 612 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,240 Speaker 6: American public and we are creat we are committing horrible 613 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 6: human rights violations that if any other country was doing, 614 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,839 Speaker 6: we would say, oh, we have to go bomb them, 615 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 6: and we have to save these people. We are doing 616 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 6: it here ourselves, and unfortunately the Democrats haven't been willing 617 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 6: to stand up for it. But there's a lot of 618 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 6: people out there that have really great ideas that they 619 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 6: just don't get time on television. They don't get time 620 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 6: on cable news, and unfortunately the politicians don't listen to them. 621 00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 6: They only listen to the people within the agencies, who 622 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 6: then have the revolving door and get to turn around. 623 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 6: Like a good example of that is Chief Carla Provos. 624 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 6: She was our first female chief in the border patrol 625 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 6: under Donald Trump's first administration, and she's the one that 626 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 6: took children, she separated from their asylum seeking parents whose 627 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 6: only crime was coming to seek asylum. And when she resigned, 628 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 6: she immediately went and became an executive director of a 629 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 6: shelter for unaccompanied children. And this happens over and over 630 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 6: and over again. We see ICE directors. Tay Johnson is 631 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 6: he was an acting ICE director in the past administrations. 632 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 6: He's now advising sheriffs and other people on how to 633 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 6: create these massive ice warehouse concentration camps for people and stuff. 634 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 6: So we see this revolving door and people are just 635 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 6: making money like you wouldn't believe. It's just huge. And 636 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 6: the reality is is we need to have a robust 637 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 6: asylum system because an asylum system in a country like 638 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,879 Speaker 6: ours is a national security issue, and without it, then 639 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 6: you lack national security. We need to inspect people when 640 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 6: they come in. If we have a reason not to 641 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 6: allow them to come in, then find we can adjudicate 642 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 6: that and we can deal with that. But if you 643 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 6: allow people to have a legal avenue with which they 644 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 6: can be inspected, then they will do that. And then 645 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 6: the people who are crossing in between the ports who 646 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 6: are an afaris who are trying to other agency can 647 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 6: deal with that. 648 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 5: First the country legally through the airports. It takes place 649 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 5: on visa over stays. And so this entire debate is 650 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 5: fantastical on fifty seven different levels, three hundred and sixty 651 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 5: five days a year, and we're a country of immigrants. 652 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 5: Immigration is important. We need immigration economically competitively, we need 653 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 5: the reform or immigration system. The last thing I'll say 654 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,240 Speaker 5: about it is I've been an advocate for my entire 655 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,240 Speaker 5: political career, and as someone who worked for John McCain 656 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 5: and George W. Bush for common sense immigration reform, I've 657 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 5: watched this issue be used as a political football by 658 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 5: both sides, by senators and presidents and both parties, and 659 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:36,760 Speaker 5: it is not a happy tale of idealism, to say 660 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 5: the least. But I need everybody to understand something politically, 661 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 5: in an idiocracy, if you take away all of the 662 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 5: nuance and all of the complexity of the debate, and 663 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 5: the choice that's left for the American people framed by 664 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 5: a demagogue is everybody out or everybody can come in. 665 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 5: The decision every fucking time is going to be everybody out. 666 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 5: And if you don't understand that at a human level, 667 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 5: Right if you don't appreciate that, during the height of 668 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 5: the nineteen thirties, the majority of Jews did not want 669 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 5: Jews immigrating to the United States, Right, if you don't 670 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 5: understand why so many Hispanics voted for Trump, so many 671 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 5: second generation immigrants voted for Trump twelve years in get 672 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 5: out of politics? 673 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, hm, well said, Well said, as always, listen, Jen, 674 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 3: I know that you're busy. We'll let you run, but 675 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 3: I cannot thank you enough and I want to have 676 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 3: you back. Yeah. Yeah, you are a very very bright 677 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:06,320 Speaker 3: light and a dark sky. Former US Patrol senior agent 678 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 3: with ICE gen Bud turned high profile and rights activist. 679 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 3: She is an author, she's a whistleblower. She's an activist. 680 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 3: She's also the host of Borderland Talk right here on substack. 681 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 3: Everybody needs to go and subscribe. Subscribe to gen Buds 682 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:25,839 Speaker 3: substack right now. She's also on YouTube called borderland Talk. Jen, 683 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 3: will you come back and join us to kind of 684 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 3: dig into the ideology of some of these recruits in 685 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 3: the coming weeks? 686 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 6: Absolutely, and you you all having this discussion, like even 687 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 6: nobody's really having this discussion they're only talking to Tom Homer. 688 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,919 Speaker 6: They're only talking to and they lie every single time. 689 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 6: Or yeah, yeah, and. 690 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 3: You're a million times more succinct than that. 691 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 6: I do have a bit of an Alabama muffle going on. 692 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,800 Speaker 3: But yeah, you make sense and both your eyes go forward, 693 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 3: so we'll have you back. I really appreciate it. Jen, 694 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining us. 695 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 4: All right, thank you, all right? 696 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 3: Jen Bud Borderlands Talk substack YouTube is where you can 697 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 3: find her former Rice of Patrol agent. You said that 698 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 3: many times, Steve. You know, Ice is just, you know, 699 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 3: something that should have been should have been disbanded a 700 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 3: long time ago, needs to be disbanded. Box on the right, 701 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 3: box on the left, one for your gun, one for 702 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,399 Speaker 3: your badge. This is an organization that has never had 703 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 3: the best interests of the United States or the people 704 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 3: in it in mind. And as we as we move 705 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,840 Speaker 3: towards twenty twenty six, you should be gimmes right. You 706 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 3: know the idea that thirty nine thousand, five hundred people 707 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,240 Speaker 3: got locked up last month, the children eating maggot filled bread, 708 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 3: that grandparents that that have been here for twenty five 709 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 3: years from El Salvador sleeping under tinfoil blankets should be 710 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,479 Speaker 3: a gimmey. It should be a gimmey. The Epstein file 711 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,720 Speaker 3: should be a gimmey. The Warner and should be a gimmy. 712 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 3: But the New York Times put out a piece this 713 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 3: week and you wrote about it. Steve Schmidt's the warning. 714 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 3: Everybody needs to go and read this piece on Ken 715 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:04,240 Speaker 3: Martin in the state of the Democratic Party. And again, 716 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 3: all of these things we're talking about should be gimmes. 717 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,439 Speaker 3: Double digit leads and so many different districts and precincts 718 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 3: for Democrats, anybody but Mega, anybody but Donald Trump. And 719 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 3: it's still a fifty to fifty. It's still a toss 720 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 3: up in so many ways. And I ran in this 721 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 3: New York Times piece that the Democratic Party is broke 722 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 3: effectively to their name in terms of assets. They've got 723 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,439 Speaker 3: two million dollars in debt. Ken Martin in the sub 724 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 3: stack the other day tweeted, ah, guys, so we're primed 725 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 3: and ready for the midterms. We're set up for sustainable success. Meanwhile, 726 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 3: on the other side of the aisle, Trump and Mega 727 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 3: have one hundred and twenty eight million dollars in cash 728 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 3: on hand, and they are feckless. The infighting is incredible. 729 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 3: And you were out that that the Democratic Party might 730 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 3: be Mega's greatest asset going into the midterms. Tell me 731 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 3: about that. Let's talk about that a little bit. 732 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 5: Time to time to face some tough realities. This Grand 733 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 5: Platiner debacle in Maine. It's a winnable seat. And we 734 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 5: have frivolous children vandalizing processes in a moment of deep 735 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 5: crisis for this. 736 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 4: Country, for the United States. 737 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 5: And I love my country very very much, and I'm 738 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 5: deeply worried about its future. And Donald Trump has won 739 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 5: two out of three elections against Democrats. And what happened 740 00:47:54,640 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty four was a national disaster, catastrophe, and 741 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,359 Speaker 5: it came from the selfishness of an old man in 742 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 5: his ambitious family who were cashing in. It couldn't function. 743 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 5: And so two out of three times, this is incredible. 744 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 5: Here's your autopsy. The most prolific liar since Goebels and 745 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:34,479 Speaker 5: Hitler was twice elected by the American people, who thought 746 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:40,839 Speaker 5: he was the more honest candidate, more honest about Biden's senility, 747 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 5: about his fitness, about the economy, and about the border. 748 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 5: Even today, the Democratic Party is viewed by a majority 749 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 5: of Americans in the Maga era when they're fully in 750 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 5: charges the more extreme party. It's extraordinary, the depth of 751 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 5: the failure, the magnitude of it, the fecklessness of a 752 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 5: Chuck Schumer is inability to communicate, to meet the moment. 753 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 5: Ken Martin, the man depicted in the story the four 754 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 5: hundred People of the DNC, a great nation of three 755 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 5: hundred and fifty million people held hostage by four hundred, 756 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 5: four hundred weirdos in their committees. 757 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:33,800 Speaker 4: And their pronounce. 758 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:43,360 Speaker 5: And John Kennedy posed the question the purpose of a 759 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 5: political party if it doesn't serve the nation? And we're 760 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:53,880 Speaker 5: losing the country because of the failure of the Democratic Party. 761 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 5: And by the way, here we go again, and I 762 00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 5: want to explain something very clearly. Twenty twenty four cycle began. 763 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:08,759 Speaker 5: The state of New Hampshire has always gone first in 764 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 5: the primary process, and the reason for that historically was 765 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,320 Speaker 5: because New Hampshire in the Progressive era, was the first 766 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:23,359 Speaker 5: to embrace a progressive idea, which was that citizens should 767 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,920 Speaker 5: be able to have a say in the primary process 768 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 5: and thus vote, and New Hampshire thus gave people the 769 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 5: ability to have a say in a presidential primary as 770 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,400 Speaker 5: opposed to it playing out in the back room in 771 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 5: nineteen twenty. That's why New Hampshire goes first. There's a 772 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 5: tradition that comes out of a democracy reform. Now, Joe 773 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 5: Biden did not do well in New Hampshire historically, and 774 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:04,360 Speaker 5: so what was Joe Biden's REI and his people, Jim Clyburn, 775 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,239 Speaker 5: I'm going to take it away from you because it's 776 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 5: bad for Biden because he's not up to par. He 777 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 5: can't do it, can't talk, can't survive the town hall 778 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 5: meetings and the expectations of the. 779 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 4: Town meeting in the New England environment. 780 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 5: And so it was taken away. And the reason it 781 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 5: was taken away that was given too many white people 782 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 5: in New Hampshire. Now in the aftermath that have lost election, right, 783 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,919 Speaker 5: there'll be wonderment about why white working class voters here 784 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 5: and there feel alienated from the Democratic Party. Too many 785 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 5: white people in New Hampshire, according to Jim Clybern, So 786 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 5: it's got to go to South Carolina because there's a 787 00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:03,880 Speaker 5: black voting electorate in South Carolin Carolina. Okay, too many 788 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 5: white people black people in South Carolina. So now the 789 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:16,800 Speaker 5: cradle of the Confederacy the home state of Lindsey Graham 790 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:22,319 Speaker 5: and Nancy Mayce and strom Thurmond, and all the segregation 791 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,479 Speaker 5: is they got to go first. I have a better idea. 792 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 5: I think they should go last, right. And I have 793 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 5: an even better idea. I think the Democratic Party should 794 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 5: support the exceptional black US Senate candidates in Louisiana and 795 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 5: Mississippi and make at least the pretense of an attempt 796 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 5: again to be a national party. But I digress too much. 797 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 5: At any rate, let me bite down on the question 798 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,239 Speaker 5: of why there's so many white people in New Hampshire. 799 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,520 Speaker 5: The answer to that question is there was never slavery 800 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 5: in New Hampshire and there was never industry in New Hampshire. 801 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:07,879 Speaker 5: So when black Americans fled by the millions in one 802 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:12,719 Speaker 5: of the greatest population migrations in human history inside a 803 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:18,680 Speaker 5: nation between nineteen oh five and nineteen fifteen and nineteen twenty, 804 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 5: they came to Detroit, they came to New York. They 805 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 5: came to the northern urban cities that were being industrialized, 806 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 5: where the factories were being built. 807 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 4: And that story of. 808 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:40,400 Speaker 5: Black migration is fundamental to the story of the twentieth 809 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 5: century and civil rights progress. Now, if you go to 810 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:51,680 Speaker 5: the New Hampshire Capital has one of the largest collections 811 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:56,759 Speaker 5: of battle flags anywhere in the country, with some of 812 00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 5: the cases that these flags are behind and last opened 813 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 5: in nineteen seventeen, nineteen eighteen, and the curators think that 814 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 5: any contact with oxygen with air will disintegrate the flags. 815 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 5: They're that fragile, and everybody remembers I think of a 816 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:23,040 Speaker 5: certain age the movie Glory. The movie Glory told the 817 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 5: story of the fifty fourth Regiment of the Massachusetts Infantry, 818 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:34,840 Speaker 5: which led the attack heroically and famously in South Carolina 819 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:40,799 Speaker 5: against Fort Wagner, the Confederate fort and the fifty fourth 820 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:48,360 Speaker 5: Massachusetts was the concept and idea an achievement of Frederick Douglas, 821 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,720 Speaker 5: among others. Two of his sons served in the fifty 822 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:59,880 Speaker 5: fourth Massachusetts Colored Regiment. This is the movie that More 823 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 5: Freeman is in, that a young young Denzel Washington is in, 824 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:16,279 Speaker 5: Matthew Broderick is in, and at the end you will 825 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:22,880 Speaker 5: see men who are making way as the fifty fourth 826 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:27,879 Speaker 5: Massachusetts proven in combat, a hardened, disciplined force takes its 827 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:36,319 Speaker 5: place in history and leads the charge. And the men 828 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 5: who are in that movie depicted as cheering them forward 829 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 5: we're New Hampshire men in real life, in their flag 830 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:56,280 Speaker 5: is in the case in the capital, in the state 831 00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 5: that's too white to maintain its first in the Nation status, 832 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:11,719 Speaker 5: though its sons died in an industrial scale next to their 833 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:19,800 Speaker 5: black brothers to set men free, and their deaths matter 834 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:25,280 Speaker 5: as much as the death of the soldier in Afghanistan 835 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 5: and Iraq, and as much as those omitted soldiers in Iran. 836 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:35,799 Speaker 5: So I reject the argument completely that this is grounds 837 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:41,440 Speaker 5: to take the New Hampshire primary away. The Democratic Party, 838 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 5: in an era of lawlessness, maintains it is the rule 839 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 5: of law party. New Hampshire is the only state that 840 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 5: has a state law that says our state must go first. 841 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 5: And the Democrats and Republican presidential primary voting process. What 842 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 5: the Democrats did to begin the twenty twenty four election 843 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 5: under the leadership of Jamie Harrison, who's one of the 844 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:21,960 Speaker 5: architects of trying to put the primary back in South 845 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 5: Carolina again away from New Hampshire using the same racialized reason. Right, 846 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 5: the architect of that foolish decision. 847 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:36,959 Speaker 4: Get it. 848 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 5: Running against Donald Trump demanding a state break its own 849 00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:48,960 Speaker 5: law to comply with DNC rules or face punishment in 850 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:54,280 Speaker 5: the name of Joe Biden. You see the problem. You 851 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 5: see the problem right. So what the Democratic Party needs 852 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 5: to be is the party that calls its young men 853 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:06,400 Speaker 5: black and white and Hispanic, in Asian and Tamil and 854 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 5: Hindu and from all over the world, whatever race or 855 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,760 Speaker 5: creed they may be Americans, all to service of their country. 856 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 4: In the manner of John Kennedy. 857 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:23,040 Speaker 5: Democratic Party has to face squarely the unbelievable, malicious concentrations 858 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:27,520 Speaker 5: of power that have taken root and break them up. 859 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 5: The Democratic Party has to deal with the consequences of 860 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,720 Speaker 5: a failed war where black boys and white boys are 861 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,840 Speaker 5: getting killed together, and black women and white women and 862 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 5: Hispanic women are serving and getting killed together, and the 863 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,640 Speaker 5: media is lying about it and covering it up. We 864 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 5: have serious issues in this country. And the New Hampshire 865 00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 5: Primary is the last place in this country where an 866 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 5: unknown presidential candidate can get in their car and starting 867 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:04,120 Speaker 5: in town halls and get ahead of scheme and a 868 00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,600 Speaker 5: little notoriety and go on to become president of the 869 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:11,920 Speaker 5: United States like a Bill Clinton. It is an indispensable 870 00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:19,680 Speaker 5: Americ Ken tradition defined as too white by a party, 871 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:26,040 Speaker 5: brought law by its adherents to all of this divisive 872 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:31,200 Speaker 5: bullshit that's been rejected so soundly that the repairman the 873 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,880 Speaker 5: American people hired to burn it fucking down was Donald Trump. 874 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,920 Speaker 5: These people are so fucking stupid, there's not a word 875 00:59:39,000 --> 01:00:04,120 Speaker 5: for it. And and the Democratic candidates who are going 876 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:08,520 Speaker 5: to run for president, John McCain never really understood right 877 01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:12,040 Speaker 5: that before he became president, as the nominee was the 878 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:12,920 Speaker 5: head of the party. 879 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,400 Speaker 4: He didn't know that came with the job. 880 01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 5: It was really a strange thing, right, And I don't 881 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,680 Speaker 5: take it for granted anymore. If you're running to be president, 882 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:26,760 Speaker 5: you're running to be the leader of a very, very 883 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 5: broken and broke party that's run by fucked up people, 884 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:37,120 Speaker 5: and they're losers, and they're incompetent, and they're leaving Senate 885 01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,600 Speaker 5: seats on the table, and they've turned a great national 886 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,640 Speaker 5: party into a regional party, and they're not doing jack 887 01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:49,120 Speaker 5: shitt for two black candidates in Louisiana and Mississippi. You know, 888 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:54,120 Speaker 5: MegaR Evers buried in Arlington, whose name plate was removed 889 01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 5: so he can't find the grave anymore. Such was his 890 01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:01,720 Speaker 5: patriotism that MegaR Evers for going on TV and telling 891 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,440 Speaker 5: the story of how blacks lived in the South. He 892 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:10,280 Speaker 5: wanted the word Mississippi spelled out on his grave that 893 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:14,000 Speaker 5: he knew he was headed to Mississippi. That's what MegaR Evers' 894 01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:18,160 Speaker 5: grave says. And there's a black prosecutor, Na's Scott column 895 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:24,000 Speaker 5: running in Mississippi. He's the invisible man in Washington, DC 896 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,720 Speaker 5: at a national party. This says, we got to take 897 01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,640 Speaker 5: away the New Hampshire primary because it's too white. 898 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:32,480 Speaker 4: The fuck out of here. 899 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,840 Speaker 3: A lot of history there that dictates that this is 900 01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 3: a snake eating his fucking tail, right, you know, I 901 01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 3: just the way you've explained it what I read in 902 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,280 Speaker 3: the New York Times Ken Martin's piece trying to trick 903 01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,360 Speaker 3: himself and everybody around him into thinking that everything's going 904 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,080 Speaker 3: to be tickety boo because Donald Trump sucks. Donald Trump 905 01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 3: has sucks so hard he's beat him twice to your point, right, 906 01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,400 Speaker 3: you know, we watch those outtakes from the White House correspondence. 907 01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 3: They're complete inanity, total rambling, absolute lunacy. That was the 908 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,920 Speaker 3: best option watching that in Clipville, going this is the 909 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,360 Speaker 3: best option that the United States has because the Democratic 910 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,640 Speaker 3: parties had fucked up. And then when I read your piece. 911 01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,240 Speaker 3: Then I went back to the New York Times piece, 912 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,880 Speaker 3: the original reporting of it. I thought to myself, how 913 01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,080 Speaker 3: the fuck do you win the mid terms with negative 914 01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 3: two million dollars in the bank when the other guy's 915 01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:24,680 Speaker 3: got one hundred and thirty, Like, how is it even possible? 916 01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:26,520 Speaker 4: You're gonna leave? You're gonna leave. 917 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:34,000 Speaker 5: Democrats for sure are going to win the House, and 918 01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,440 Speaker 5: I think it is possible that they will win the Senate, 919 01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 5: but they are in as bad a position to do 920 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:49,040 Speaker 5: so with as strong a hand as is possible to 921 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:53,240 Speaker 5: have in this moment, because of the inability of Chuck 922 01:02:53,280 --> 01:03:00,960 Speaker 5: Schumer to communicate the ineptitude of his political team, the 923 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:07,800 Speaker 5: ship of fools that are the connection of the Democratic 924 01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:14,480 Speaker 5: groups that support all of this, and the architecture of 925 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:20,640 Speaker 5: the Democratic donor advisors and donor networks. They are human 926 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 5: period pyramids of incompetencies, built upon incompetence, towered upon more incompetence. 927 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:40,280 Speaker 5: How many Democrats voted for Christino, voted for Pambondi. 928 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:42,600 Speaker 4: Gave them a. 929 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,720 Speaker 3: Shot cash hotel funded ice. 930 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,160 Speaker 4: Gave them a budget bigger than the Marine Corps. 931 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:56,320 Speaker 5: Or deluded enough to believe that everything sets back to normal. 932 01:03:58,480 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 4: Over and over and over. 933 01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:10,240 Speaker 5: Again, and so the failure to meet the moment. There's 934 01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:14,880 Speaker 5: a fundamental issue in the moment. And if you're thinking 935 01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:19,520 Speaker 5: of running for president as a Democrat, I'm going to 936 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:23,360 Speaker 5: give you some advice. It's free advice. I know some 937 01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:28,120 Speaker 5: of you watch this. Here's the advice. New Hampshire is 938 01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:33,920 Speaker 5: going first. Say I understand New Hampshire's going first, and 939 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,080 Speaker 5: I'm going to compete in the New Hampshire primary, and 940 01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,120 Speaker 5: I'm going to go to New Hampshire and I'm going 941 01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,720 Speaker 5: to stand up there and I'm going to say I'm 942 01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:45,880 Speaker 5: running for president, and I'm here to answer your questions 943 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,920 Speaker 5: and do one hundred and twenty town hall meetings and 944 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,040 Speaker 5: you'll win the New Hampshire primary and you can. 945 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,320 Speaker 4: Be the Democratic nominee to be president. 946 01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,600 Speaker 5: And I think more and more every day that the 947 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 5: chances of an unknown candidate making it through this process, 948 01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,439 Speaker 5: or a dark horse candidate, or wherever you think about it, 949 01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:09,280 Speaker 5: go up. 950 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,120 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. 951 01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:16,080 Speaker 4: Not like in the air an awso off. 952 01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:23,400 Speaker 5: A there's a there's a there's a there's a bunch 953 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:27,680 Speaker 5: of there's a bunch of there's a bunch of candidates. 954 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:32,560 Speaker 5: Governor of Kentucky's a is a strong young candidate. 955 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 4: You know, I've. 956 01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:39,120 Speaker 5: Behre on on the warning this Wednesday, you know, and 957 01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,720 Speaker 5: he's dealing with a very very we talked about it 958 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:47,120 Speaker 5: on Friday, very complicated. He's trying to find Mitch, you know. 959 01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:51,240 Speaker 5: And you know, so everyone everyone, right, if you think 960 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,080 Speaker 5: about this as a process, is a test, right, everyone 961 01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:54,840 Speaker 5: is off. 962 01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:55,880 Speaker 4: Somewhere on the board. 963 01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,800 Speaker 5: Right, You're almost taking this game of strange version of 964 01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,880 Speaker 5: the amazing race. Right, They're all off there somewhere on 965 01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:06,120 Speaker 5: the board doing their test, right, you know. For Andy Bashier, right, 966 01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:11,680 Speaker 5: he's he's got to find Mitch, right, John oss Off right, 967 01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:16,360 Speaker 5: He's he's asking some questions that need asking, right, he's. 968 01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 3: Got to keep kneecapping the regime when he. 969 01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,360 Speaker 5: Can't gotta and he's got to beat the Maga fascist 970 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:22,440 Speaker 5: nut in Georgia. 971 01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:22,880 Speaker 4: Right. 972 01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:26,280 Speaker 5: And he's a model for a race that says, hey, right, 973 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:30,160 Speaker 5: the way you beat these people is by paddling hard 974 01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,640 Speaker 5: right into the wave and you go right at them. 975 01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:36,080 Speaker 4: That's what John Ossoff is doing, right. 976 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:40,440 Speaker 5: And so we're getting a flavor right of the talent 977 01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,360 Speaker 5: that exists out there in the Democratic Party, and it 978 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:49,680 Speaker 5: is substantial right, but none of it, by definition, is 979 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:54,560 Speaker 5: invested in any equity, any ownership, any stock, in the 980 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:58,480 Speaker 5: incompetence of the institution of the DNC that's lost two 981 01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:02,920 Speaker 5: out of three elections with all of the people who 982 01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:08,240 Speaker 5: are permanent fixtures, have been for thirty years go. They're 983 01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,200 Speaker 5: on the rules committee, they go to the Sunday Show, 984 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:14,080 Speaker 5: they go to the consulting firm, to the. 985 01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,560 Speaker 4: Unless this gets fixed. 986 01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:23,600 Speaker 5: In twenty twenty eight, Democrats will lose another election to 987 01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:28,040 Speaker 5: these people, and the country will not survive no four 988 01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:35,120 Speaker 5: more years of a fascist American president. We will achieve 989 01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:40,680 Speaker 5: the goal of getting a check on Donald Trump's power, 990 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:53,200 Speaker 5: and that will make things both better and more dangerous, 991 01:07:55,000 --> 01:08:04,560 Speaker 5: both better and more unstable, both better and more risky. 992 01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:09,000 Speaker 5: Because that's real life. That's the real world again and 993 01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,360 Speaker 5: going back again. Right, it's a complex moment. 994 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:12,040 Speaker 4: Right. 995 01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:17,200 Speaker 5: But but anybody right who's an adult, particularly in their 996 01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:20,479 Speaker 5: forties and fifties and sixties, like a fully functioning like 997 01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:24,920 Speaker 5: adult in society, who is on social media cheerleading for 998 01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:29,080 Speaker 5: these political parties and political candidates, and particularly the leaders 999 01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:33,120 Speaker 5: of Democratic Party that literally can't hear the criticism without 1000 01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:37,800 Speaker 5: losing their mind right without becoming emotionally unstable. 1001 01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, they tell you to stay on the teaming, right, Yeah, 1002 01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:41,880 Speaker 3: on the team. 1003 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:43,080 Speaker 4: You know, I was the guy. 1004 01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:46,439 Speaker 5: I was the guy talking very very early about Joe 1005 01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,160 Speaker 5: Biden breaks his promise. We're in a big court world 1006 01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:54,439 Speaker 5: of fucking trouble. And you know what, I was right, right, 1007 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,920 Speaker 5: and we were we were shouted down. Everyone who said 1008 01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:02,840 Speaker 5: that got a guy like Joe Scarborough who literally looked 1009 01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,439 Speaker 5: into a camera on Morning Joe and said, this is 1010 01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,120 Speaker 5: the best version of Joe Biden there has ever been, 1011 01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:12,200 Speaker 5: and then doubled down on it and said, and fuck you. 1012 01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,799 Speaker 4: If you don't see that that happened. 1013 01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:17,599 Speaker 2: That happened. 1014 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:19,759 Speaker 4: It's like in real life. 1015 01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 3: I know, I know I watched it and then and 1016 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,160 Speaker 3: then completely supplicated. 1017 01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:30,360 Speaker 5: Right, I'll look into the camera and me here it 1018 01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:35,519 Speaker 5: MS now, we have the statue of incredibility to host 1019 01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:41,720 Speaker 5: the debate? What what so like if you're a presidential candidate, right, like, dude, 1020 01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,400 Speaker 5: the Morning Joe candidate's not going to do well the cycle? 1021 01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:46,120 Speaker 2: Right? 1022 01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,840 Speaker 4: Am I gonna do? Right? 1023 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,519 Speaker 5: You want to you want a campaign on MS now, 1024 01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:55,880 Speaker 5: I'm going to do well the cycle? Well, that ship's 1025 01:09:55,920 --> 01:10:01,880 Speaker 5: a liability need a real reformer in a real moment 1026 01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:03,360 Speaker 5: of crisis. 1027 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,000 Speaker 3: Wherever that is. They got a job to do too, 1028 01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,000 Speaker 3: taking over the entire party, rebuilding and putting money back 1029 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,400 Speaker 3: into bank accounts, paying off people. One of the great pieces, uh, 1030 01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,720 Speaker 3: one of the great lines from your piece was how 1031 01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:18,200 Speaker 3: the Democratic Party and Ken Martin have asked vendors Democratic 1032 01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,600 Speaker 3: vendors of the party not to invoice them because it 1033 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,439 Speaker 3: looks bad right now. They don't they don't have to 1034 01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:25,280 Speaker 3: pay them. I mean, you know, it's the kind of 1035 01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,240 Speaker 3: shit that you do when you're you know, you're you're 1036 01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:30,320 Speaker 3: being chased around for bills coming out of university. I mean, 1037 01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:33,479 Speaker 3: it's just it's fucking unbelievable. This is a serious party 1038 01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,599 Speaker 3: that's supposed to take Trump down. And to your point, 1039 01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:37,479 Speaker 3: I think the conversation, you know, and we have this 1040 01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,600 Speaker 3: all the time here in Canada when we meet Americans, 1041 01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,000 Speaker 3: you know, you're like there will ask him like, how 1042 01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:45,280 Speaker 3: the fuck did you How did he win? How did 1043 01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,479 Speaker 3: he win twice? How did he win after he won 1044 01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:49,679 Speaker 3: the first time destroyed your country? You got a four 1045 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:51,880 Speaker 3: year you know break and then you like a la 1046 01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,080 Speaker 3: moratorium on trump Is' and then you did it again. 1047 01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:55,840 Speaker 3: How did you? And I think the question isn't how 1048 01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:58,080 Speaker 3: did he win, it's how did those fucking people lose? 1049 01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:02,160 Speaker 3: And how do they keep fucking losing? And you're laying out, 1050 01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:05,800 Speaker 3: you know, sort of that roadmap for how fucking ineffective 1051 01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:09,360 Speaker 3: they are, how self interested each individual person are, all 1052 01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,479 Speaker 3: the little islands in the Democratic Party. The only thing 1053 01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,360 Speaker 3: I can think is that I think you should take 1054 01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,920 Speaker 3: it the fuck over. That's that's what I think. 1055 01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,120 Speaker 5: All I can say is, yes, I got a I 1056 01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:25,559 Speaker 5: got a I got a buddy of mine who's got 1057 01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:32,080 Speaker 5: a strong willed teenage daughter and told me, he said, 1058 01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,880 Speaker 5: he looked at her and said, uh, sweetie, I'm so 1059 01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:39,320 Speaker 5: lucky to be a girl and I'm thirteen, fourteen years old. 1060 01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:44,160 Speaker 5: And she said, why as well, because if you were 1061 01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:49,960 Speaker 5: your brother, you'd be at military school, right, And I 1062 01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,879 Speaker 5: just you read that, You read that New York Times, 1063 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,360 Speaker 5: You read that New York Time story. 1064 01:11:55,920 --> 01:12:00,760 Speaker 4: Can can Martin Barry's lucky? He's not chat and ease there? 1065 01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:04,200 Speaker 5: Right? You know you'd have to, you know, take a 1066 01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,200 Speaker 5: walk in the woods with the sword. 1067 01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:09,200 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, Yeah, unbelievable. 1068 01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,519 Speaker 5: Yeah, what a what a disaster. 1069 01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:15,640 Speaker 3: At the worst possible fucking time to your point, the 1070 01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:18,160 Speaker 3: worst possible fucking time, last last word to see you 1071 01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:18,880 Speaker 3: before I let you go. 1072 01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:20,519 Speaker 4: I mean, I I just. 1073 01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:26,360 Speaker 5: This conversation I think is like so important right to 1074 01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:28,799 Speaker 5: have and to be able to have openly and honestly 1075 01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,439 Speaker 5: about the condition of this political party and the two 1076 01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:32,200 Speaker 5: party system. 1077 01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:32,439 Speaker 4: Right. 1078 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,960 Speaker 5: If we had eight political parties and one of the 1079 01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,920 Speaker 5: Democratic parties was fucked up, it's not a crisis. There's 1080 01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:44,240 Speaker 5: eight engines on the plane, right, and two of them 1081 01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,519 Speaker 5: aren't working, Not a big deal. 1082 01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:49,240 Speaker 3: You're in the air, right. 1083 01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,360 Speaker 5: You got a two engine plane and one of the 1084 01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:57,599 Speaker 5: engines isn't working. Right, plane will still fly. If both 1085 01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:02,080 Speaker 5: engines go out, you get a big problem. Plane's not 1086 01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:08,679 Speaker 5: gonna fly. Country's gonna crash. George Washington was a wise guy, 1087 01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:18,559 Speaker 5: wise guy, complicated guy. It wasn't wasn't this monolithic mythological 1088 01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:20,040 Speaker 5: out of granted figure. 1089 01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:21,719 Speaker 3: Uh. 1090 01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,280 Speaker 4: He's a real person, right. 1091 01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:25,639 Speaker 2: Uh. 1092 01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:30,240 Speaker 5: He grew enormously over the course of his life, changed 1093 01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:34,559 Speaker 5: enormously over the course of his life. And Uh, George 1094 01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:38,360 Speaker 5: Washington's warnings at the end of his life about the 1095 01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,439 Speaker 5: future of the country did so much. 1096 01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:42,519 Speaker 4: To help create Uh. 1097 01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:48,440 Speaker 5: We're about avoiding foreign entanglements and the political parties overwhelming 1098 01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,040 Speaker 5: a sense of patriotism and anyone who can't see that 1099 01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:53,719 Speaker 5: we've reached the hour of the fulfillment of his warnings 1100 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:59,840 Speaker 5: and warn right, And so we need a principal opposition. 1101 01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:03,800 Speaker 5: I don't you know you have all this chatter about 1102 01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:07,000 Speaker 5: the socialist and democratic socialists and this listen. 1103 01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:08,200 Speaker 4: You know, socialism is. 1104 01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,599 Speaker 5: Never going to take root in America. Right, It's contrary 1105 01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:15,040 Speaker 5: to the American character. Right, It's not it's it's not 1106 01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,240 Speaker 5: ever going to be a thing. Right, And even the 1107 01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,720 Speaker 5: whiff of it as a threat of it being a 1108 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:23,519 Speaker 5: thing is enough to install a fascist regime. Right, So 1109 01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:26,959 Speaker 5: you know you got you got socialist winning in Manhattan 1110 01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,800 Speaker 5: districts that are plus sixty points democratic. Right. 1111 01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:31,280 Speaker 4: I don't think it's a national trend. 1112 01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:32,280 Speaker 3: Right. 1113 01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:36,839 Speaker 5: The country needs a mainstream democratic party in the tradition 1114 01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:41,160 Speaker 5: of Franklin Roosevelt and John Kennedy that is competent to 1115 01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:45,160 Speaker 5: make the government function and can put this magga insanity 1116 01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:50,880 Speaker 5: under a concrete fucking sarcophagus for the next eighty years. 1117 01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:52,519 Speaker 5: That's what the country needs. 1118 01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:56,040 Speaker 3: Great last word, Steve Schmid, The warning everybody needs to subscribe. 1119 01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:57,760 Speaker 3: Hit the chiron right at the top. You can see 1120 01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:59,360 Speaker 3: it there. It says his name, My name is Steve 1121 01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,640 Speaker 3: Schmid the war arning here on substack, in conjunction with 1122 01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,200 Speaker 3: our friends at the Save America Movement, with Steve, one 1123 01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,759 Speaker 3: of the co founders at say, the Save America Movement 1124 01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:12,240 Speaker 3: right here on substack. Subscribe and follow and join. More importantly, donate. 1125 01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,519 Speaker 3: They're doing some incredible work. I don't know if the 1126 01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,280 Speaker 3: milk cartons made it to Mitch's hometown in Kentucky or 1127 01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:20,080 Speaker 3: in front of George Washington Hospital this weekend, but the 1128 01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,920 Speaker 3: Save America Movement was on it this weekend. And if you, 1129 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:24,880 Speaker 3: if you think about it, Steve, I wouldn't mind if 1130 01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,679 Speaker 3: you got an extra milk carton costume. Wouldn't mind having 1131 01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:28,760 Speaker 3: that for Halloween this year? 1132 01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:29,559 Speaker 4: Where's match? 1133 01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:32,680 Speaker 3: I have no idea. You didn't locate them, can find them. 1134 01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:34,759 Speaker 4: We're gonna find them. 1135 01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, So if you see him, make sure you contact 1136 01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,040 Speaker 3: the Save America Movement. Go to the Save America Movement 1137 01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:45,320 Speaker 3: dot org again the Save America Movement dot org. Donate, donate, donate, 1138 01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,800 Speaker 3: Bring this activation to life. 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The Save America Movement dot org, deem 1147 01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:13,240 Speaker 3: Blundell dot substack dot com is where you can find me. 1148 01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:15,760 Speaker 3: Thank you all for joining us for another edition of 1149 01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,920 Speaker 3: Dead Air, really important conversations mainstream media refuses to have 1150 01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,679 Speaker 3: in any way, shape or form because they'll hear stuff 1151 01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,519 Speaker 3: like this. So we'll join you again coming up on Saturday. 1152 01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,160 Speaker 3: We do this every Saturday at twelve o'clock, every Monday 1153 01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:30,280 Speaker 3: at twelve o'clock. And we're super grateful everybody has spent 1154 01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:33,040 Speaker 3: time with us today. Larry David said it best, Steve. 1155 01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:35,840 Speaker 3: You can take my shit, just tink, don't take my time, 1156 01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:37,880 Speaker 3: because time is not something I can get back, So 1157 01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,400 Speaker 3: when people give it to us, it's a great honor. 1158 01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,880 Speaker 3: Super grateful that everybody showed up today. Thousands of people 1159 01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:44,599 Speaker 3: that have spent some time with us and Jen Bud 1160 01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,760 Speaker 3: want to thank her again Borderlands talk with Gen Budd 1161 01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,519 Speaker 3: right here on substack. We'll have her back again. Thanks Steve, 1162 01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:51,280 Speaker 3: we'll talk to you soon. 1163 01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,000 Speaker 4: See Mitch say something. 1164 01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:56,559 Speaker 2: And somebody does I. 1165 01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,639 Speaker 1: Guys like you write them off forget it yet billions 1166 01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:00,599 Speaker 1: of people in the world. 1167 01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:02,559 Speaker 2: You don't have to make a jerk out of yourself. 1168 01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:07,240 Speaker 1: But usually a comedian hosts this dinner, and I think 1169 01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:08,920 Speaker 1: we sort of changed it tonight. We're going to have 1170 01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,880 Speaker 1: somebody who I think is really spectacular. But I've watched 1171 01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:15,679 Speaker 1: comedians get up for because I have been here actually 1172 01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:16,559 Speaker 1: quite a few times. 1173 01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:17,680 Speaker 2: People don't realize. 1174 01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:21,479 Speaker 1: And there's one time in particular when Barack Hussein Obama 1175 01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:22,160 Speaker 1: hosted it. 1176 01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:26,320 Speaker 2: Do you know who that is? And he hit me hard, 1177 01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:28,719 Speaker 2: but actually he hit me with respect. 1178 01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:33,160 Speaker 1: I was sitting with Melanie at a table and you 1179 01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,960 Speaker 1: had Brooklyn Decker, supermodel, at a table right next to 1180 01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:39,960 Speaker 1: and she I really always will like her. She's married 1181 01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:43,200 Speaker 1: to a great tennis player Andy, and she was at 1182 01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:46,599 Speaker 1: the table, none at my table. And I have watched 1183 01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,080 Speaker 1: this clip thousands of times. They keep playing it because 1184 01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:51,719 Speaker 1: they think that was evening. I decided to run for president. 1185 01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:52,280 Speaker 2: It was not. 1186 01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:56,200 Speaker 1: In fact, I loved the evening. I looked at my wife, 1187 01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,160 Speaker 1: I said, can you believe in all these people, that's 1188 01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,960 Speaker 1: all they're doing is talking about me. I love this dinner. 1189 01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:03,759 Speaker 1: It's true. 1190 01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,800 Speaker 2: And Obama was nice. You know, it's amazing how things 1191 01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:07,240 Speaker 2: work out. 1192 01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,080 Speaker 1: He actually showed a picture of the White House with 1193 01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,160 Speaker 1: a big Trump on top, like I put us on, 1194 01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:13,840 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm sort of doing that when you 1195 01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:17,799 Speaker 1: think about it, right, I mean, he wasn't really wrong, 1196 01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:21,720 Speaker 1: but no, he was respectful, he was good, and it 1197 01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:23,200 Speaker 1: had but it had nothing to do. 1198 01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:24,920 Speaker 2: It had nothing to do. 1199 01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:28,840 Speaker 1: I just decided that I wanted to make America great again. 1200 01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:30,320 Speaker 2: This had nothing to do with that dinner.