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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is the one and only

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Speaker 1: West Hodkowits were coming to you here from our studios

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Speaker 1: at lambeau Field and West to review a little bit

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Speaker 1: more the Packers victory over the Buffalo Bills from Sunday.

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Speaker 1: One aspect we didn't get into too much on yesterday's

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Speaker 1: show was with regards to the turnovers the Packers had

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Speaker 1: on defense and specifically, haha Clinton Dix's interception. It's now

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Speaker 1: his third interception in three consecutive games. And while the

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Speaker 1: first two would probably qualify as rather easy, almost gift

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Speaker 1: wrap type of interceptions, the one he had on Sunday

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Speaker 1: against Buffalo that was one heck of a play. It

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Speaker 1: really was. I thought Larry McCarron probably had the line

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Speaker 1: of the day. Uh. In the group hudder, wh where

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Speaker 1: everyone was talking to Clinton Dix, he said, probably would

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Speaker 1: be one of the more physical interceptions you've had during

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Speaker 1: your career. And and I just love the play for

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Speaker 1: a number of reasons. One obviously, his third interception in

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Speaker 1: three games. That's the headline and of itself, but so

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Speaker 1: many times and we've seen it come up this season.

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Speaker 1: The Chicago game was a good example of it, where

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Speaker 1: people pull up the still frame of a wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: a tight end wide open, and like, how how did

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Speaker 1: Trubisky not throw this? I don't know if you remember it.

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Speaker 1: There was a big thing on social media in Week one.

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Speaker 1: I thought the Calvin Benjamin play was very similar because

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Speaker 1: it's really easy to look and see a guy open,

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Speaker 1: but you also have to understand where the where the

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Speaker 1: help is, where the defensive backs are by the time

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Speaker 1: that and Josh Allen has a great arm by the

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Speaker 1: time he was able to get that ball into the

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Speaker 1: orbit of Benjamin. You have Clinton Dix ranging in center

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Speaker 1: field and makes a great play on the ball. A

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Speaker 1: lot of questions about the contact of it should been

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Speaker 1: a flag, not a flag. There's no flag because he

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Speaker 1: played the ball. If you go to the letter of

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Speaker 1: the law of the NFL, the defensive back, at least

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Speaker 1: how it used to be called, has just as much

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Speaker 1: of a right to that football as the offensive player.

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Speaker 1: Clinton Dix goes up, makes a great play, third interception

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Speaker 1: of the season, and for him and that secondary talks

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Speaker 1: so much Mike about trying to get the big plays

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Speaker 1: and in in momentum, changing moments in games. Clinton Dix

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Speaker 1: now through the first four games of the season leading

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Speaker 1: the NFL tied for the lead in interceptions right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's coming off of a season in which he had

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Speaker 1: three interceptions all year in seventeen, so he's already matched

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Speaker 1: his total from last year. He had five in his

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl year often so on his way potentially to

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Speaker 1: a career high. And I tell you that that collision

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Speaker 1: with Kelvin Benjamin, that was as as Larry said, that

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Speaker 1: was a pretty physical collision and he's he's giving up

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Speaker 1: probably what thirty pounds Kelvin Benjamin. I mean, Benjamin, there

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Speaker 1: is no small receiver. Clinton Dix comes in at two.

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, let's see what Calvin Benjamin. I want to say,

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Speaker 1: he's around two forty. I mean he's a he's a two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's a big receiver. So that was yeah, Um, that

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Speaker 1: was that was quite the and just the fact that

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Speaker 1: not only did he make the play on the ball,

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Speaker 1: but then he hung onto it as well to get

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Speaker 1: that interception. So um, it's funny because you hear you know,

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Speaker 1: when you talk about again, this is potentially a difference

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Speaker 1: between the veteran quarterback, the young quarterback in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: How many times have we heard Aaron Rodgers talk about,

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Speaker 1: you know, how he reads a safety's feet. You know,

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Speaker 1: when a safety's feet are are parallel to the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage, flat footed in a certain instance, then he

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Speaker 1: knows he can get a throw out there. Whereas if

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Speaker 1: ha Clinton Dix, for example, is already breaking on the ball,

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Speaker 1: as you say, a still shot might show, oh, that

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Speaker 1: guy looks wide open. But uh, safety who's already anticipating

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Speaker 1: that throw and making that break is going to close

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Speaker 1: that gap in a hurry. That's what he did on

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Speaker 1: that play. And um a good sign for the Packers

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Speaker 1: because this defense obviously wants to get on a bit

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Speaker 1: of a role here if they can with taking the

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Speaker 1: ball away. Yeah, totally. And that interception. You look at

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Speaker 1: where the game was at at that point in time.

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Speaker 1: It's the third quarter of the Packers just got the

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Speaker 1: thirty six yard field goal from Crosby, which doubled up

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Speaker 1: their scoring opportunities after he got the fifty two yard

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Speaker 1: or at the end of the first half. Buffalo, man,

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Speaker 1: they're coming back. They have their second half game plan ready.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to make adjustments and Clinton Dix just shuts

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Speaker 1: the play specifically that really reiterated. Okay, we finished the

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Speaker 1: Now we're going to carry it over and try to

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Speaker 1: make that leap towards a strong second half performance to

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Speaker 1: get that full sixty minute kind of showing that Mike

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Speaker 1: Penton was looking for. And also the other thing to

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Speaker 1: keep in mind too, We're four games into the season.

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Speaker 1: You have Clinton Dix now with three picks. You have

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Speaker 1: a guy like JayR Alexander who in his mind has

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Speaker 1: three picks even though the stat sheet might only say one.

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Speaker 1: Josh Jackson has been really around the ball physical. I

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Speaker 1: think Tremont Williams is off to a phenomenal start for

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Speaker 1: a guy that's been asked to basically play exclusively boundary

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Speaker 1: cornerback at thirty five years old. Through the first four

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Speaker 1: weeks of the season, there's a nucleus there, and certainly

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Speaker 1: they want to get Kevin King back and you have

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Speaker 1: to hope that that growing injuries okay, and it isn't

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Speaker 1: gonna be something that keeps Alexander off the field for

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Speaker 1: an extended period of time. But throwing in you know,

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Speaker 1: Jermaine Whitehead, there's a lot of positive things happening right

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Speaker 1: now in that Packer secondary. Yeah, needing to potentially adjust

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Speaker 1: again to some injuries, as you said, with Alexander exiting

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo game. Kevin King has been out now for

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks with his injury. Also some injuries

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Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball for the Packers,

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Speaker 1: Geronimo Allison in the concussion protocol. Randall Cobb missed the

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Speaker 1: last game against Buffalo with a hamstring injury. So we'll

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Speaker 1: see what happens with those guys as the week goes along.

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Speaker 1: But when you look at heading into say, for example,

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Speaker 1: all of these guys the Packers have at tight end

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Speaker 1: potentially playing a bigger role here. We saw Jimmy Graham

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. We haven't seen Marcedes Lewis a whole

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Speaker 1: lot in the passing game, yet, maybe that's coming. Maybe.

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Speaker 1: I know there's a real big group of Packer fans

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Speaker 1: with you, I really like Louis a lot. I've enjoyed

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Speaker 1: the interactions we've had with him. He's a really well

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Speaker 1: spoken individual, understands his place in the locker room as

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Speaker 1: Packer fans, man, they just feel like this is just

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Speaker 1: a guy that's just waiting to be un leash on

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Speaker 1: the defenses. And you know, I thought one positive that

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Speaker 1: but they actually did have some packages drawn up for

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Speaker 1: just Lewis. It wasn't like he was coming in as

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Speaker 1: can we really build in the box. As he said

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Speaker 1: able to make secondaries and in second level defenses pay

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Speaker 1: It's a draft and developed type of team. You want

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Speaker 1: to see young players who you know maybe don't have

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Speaker 1: He's definitely a guy who has stepped up in that fashion.

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Speaker 1: I want to start on Velde's scantling Mike, and it's

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Speaker 1: The route tree is a part of this getting on

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Speaker 1: But as far as pure straight line speed, we saw

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Speaker 1: how he's just able to defeat a cornerback if they're

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Speaker 1: He did that role last year. He played fifteen special

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Speaker 1: team snaps in this But I think you've seen Velda

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Speaker 1: Scantling my mind. You this is the guy that has

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be really interesting to see which teams are

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Speaker 1: going to be the team that maybe clamps down a

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Speaker 1: You know, the Eagles trying to, you know, be the

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Speaker 1: team that everybody feels that they are. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: I think the consistency is really what's going to play out,

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Speaker 1: they lost a tough game to Tennessee this past week.

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Speaker 1: And um, I'll say this, I take nothing away from

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Speaker 1: Washington beating the Packers. I'm not a believer in that

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Speaker 1: Washington team. I'm not. I'm not a believer. And if

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Speaker 1: if they proved me wrong, so be it. I'll say so.

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Speaker 1: But Jake Gruden's tenure for me has just been way

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Speaker 1: too inconsistent. And um, I think the Packers just honestly

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Speaker 1: had a terrible day. And I think green Bay is

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Speaker 1: better than Washington. Didn't show it on that day and

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Speaker 1: Washington got a victory. Hats off to him. But I

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Speaker 1: think the Eagles are still going to be the team

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Speaker 1: to beat me. Sure. Yeah, And I think I would

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Speaker 1: agree with you too as far as the Eagles being

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Speaker 1: then the number one contenders. There so to speak. The

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Speaker 1: thing I like about Washington though, is between everything that

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Speaker 1: was made out of the quarterback situation, actually, Alex Smith

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Speaker 1: is probably the guy that fits what Jake Ruden does

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Speaker 1: better than Kirk Cousins. Certainly doesn't have the four thousand

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Speaker 1: But I mean, for the most part is sort of

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Speaker 1: you know, always takes precedent over making sure that he's

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Speaker 1: smart with the football. The if the defense can keep

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Speaker 1: up there and that's a big if. Yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: mean that is there. That is their path to the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: that's their path to having success. We'll have to see

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Speaker 1: how it works out, all right. Well that we are

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Speaker 1: going to call it a wrap on this edition of

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Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of our coverage

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